I ordered a second Vtoman 1000 to add to my Vtoman 1000 and Vtoman 1500. I am 96% off grid using these and shall cut my energy bills be that much. I switched to 15 quart refrigerators by using plastic bags for storage. Vtoman are great !!!
I'm a Canadian living in the Rockies ... very small mountainous community living style. Long term power outages are rare as I am surrounded by 13 large scale hydro-electric damns but ... who knows what to expect? I have a generator but living remotely as I do means access to fuel is limited and constrained ... so I decided to purchase a power station for insurance. I watched several reviews and followed ReeWray's review in the end. I balanced all the issues for my needs and bought the VTOMAN 1500X package with extra battery and 2 each 100W solar panels. It was delivered today and I am very impressed with shipping, packaging, manufacture, and fit. It took just 5.25 business days from order to delivered and the packaging was high quality and showed no damage. The products themselves are of high quality manufacture and fit. I have fully charged the system and all power outputs work as described. Yes the charging times are longer than Li-ion but the number of recycles are huge in comparison so it is a trade-off. I would recommend this system to any of my friends ... even to people I don't like ... heck, I Am Canadian ... Eh!
Thanks Warren! BTW - where you live sounds AMAZING! I've not been to the Canadian Rockies, but I've been all the way up in Kitimat BC (if you can believe that). Rugged, beautiful country. OH! And also Ft. McMurray in Alberta, once upon a time (doing some work in the oil sands).
Gotta love those Rockies! Have backpacked many a time in them! I have a question to ask and hope you might be able to answer! I'm looking to power a mini fridge, a portable (but minimal daily used) induction cooktop, as well as probably an oil filled heater...in a 12x12 insulated shed/shack. If I were to get a system like yours (would you mind letting me know your final tally?), do you think that would be possible (even if I didn't run everything ever at the same time)? And how often do you think I'd have to recharge? Very much appreciate any insight you can give me. I really want to be independent of the electric grid here in NS!!
@@tamarap387 Hi Tamara. I do not believe a power station will meet your needs. My station holds 2,300 watts and cost $2,300 CDN. These stations are excellent for powering low watt consuming devices or high watt consuming devices for short periods of time. For example, my station will power a 17 watt LED light bulb for 135 hours (2,300 / 17 = 135) or power a 70 watt laptop computer for over 30 hours but will only power an oil filled heater for 2.5 hours set on medium heat or 900 watts. These devices typically have 3 settings of either 600 watts (Low), 900 watts (Medium), or 1,500 watts (High). A typical single burner induction stove top consumes 1,800 watts of energy so you could only run this device for just over an hours in total. Best of luck!
I attempted my due diligence and your video really helped sealed the deal to try the VTOMAN. now I'm going to see if your have reviewed portable solar panels for my pop up camper camping. We live in Florida on the beach and we get hit with hurricanes so this can serve several situations and not just camping. thank you so much for your honest reviews.
Thanks for your excellent reviews. I received my VTOMAN 1800 with Xtra Battery yesterday and they added a free portable power washer with Jump Start device. I have a Delta 2 EcoFlow and the VTOMAN will serve well even with the long charging times. All that for $1600. Appreciate your thoroughness and PRO's and CONS.
We love your wealth of knowledge and how pleasantly you present the information. We bought the Vitoman 1000 to keep our portable Dometic running while boon-docking over night or at rest areas. Thank you for all you do to educated your watchers
excellent review. having the 1800 and the extra battery for a of couple weeks now, i can say the number one change i wish they would make is shorten the battery charge times. 16 hours for both batteries to charge would be very inconvenient to say the least, especially IF i was using this over a few day power outage. an outage may not be likely to happen that long, but i’d really want a 2 hour (an hour each for unit and extra battery) ac recharge time and over double the solar input wattage. ecoflow happens offer that plus a 5 year warranty. let me be clear, this review is spot on. the vtoman 1800 w/extra battery is a good value and appears well made. but, the slow charging, low solar wattage and missing app (which kills any future firmware updates, i believe) are it’s few drawbacks. again, thanks for the review!
This powerstation seems great for the campers who just wanna charge something up to take for their trip and charge it later again when the trip is done or at the hotel. Most people don’t utilize solar on quick getaways etc. so this power station seems to fit this demographic well.
I’ve just purchased the Jump 1500 on a new customer and Easter promo (stacked discount) for £499! My largest concern was buying cheap could mean buying twice. Great to hear your vote of confidence in the product range. We’re weekend roof tent campers so should do great.
I ordered one and when I received it, it didn't work. They answered email the next day with shipping label and I sent it back. Less than a week later I got another and it's been fine. This is for backup power at home while generators resting and camper backup. 2 year warranty and great customer service, only gripe is it takes a while to charge it back up.
I'm looking at the VTOMAN 1800 mainly for a 12V car fridge for trips that are 5-6 days. Will be using it for charging my phones and a few lights and fans too and charging it while driving. Trying to get away with not needing solar panels and being able to run a 12V car fridge for 3-4 days without charging it if possible. Once again a Great video with a lot of helpful information.
@@deooptimomaximo9843 I tested it running a car fridge. I got 3 days from it with the temp set to below freezing. It was about 90 degrees each day, and parked in the garage overnight. At the end of the 3rd day it was at 16%. Only charged it while driving, approx. 1 hour a day. Haven't been able to try my solar panel for it yet. But I have a 100W folding panel that I plan to use with my 300 and 500 Wh batteries for my phone, etc... I tested recharging the VTOMAN using the 500wh generator and it worked. I'm hoping to get to put everything to use this summer. I've just been putting off building a bed platform.
I did a couple of tests around the house and it worked pretty good. I tried recharging it with my 500wh generator and it worked. I didn't get a chance to test the 100w solar panels yet. I want to use it with the fridge this summer. I just need to stop being lazy and build a bed out of plywood.
Wow! Still great savings on Amazon. I'm considering getting an 1800, and possibly a 1000 to alternate while the other charges...to have an entire other unit. Seems more practical than an extra battery. Thanks as always for the excellent content and valuable time! Be safe. 👍✌️
Personally I own vtoman jump 1000. After searching all the reviews. But you never know in real life.. so I went to winter camping few times it works great.. I am gonna get jump cable and extra battery too..
Thanks for the video sir... We have been shopping for something like this for our vendor boths at outside events during the summer and fall. It's great to have something that can possibly run a fan, provide some lighting and or possibly a small fridge
Great info.... Been thinking about these types of things... We had a multiday power outage awhile ago and it got me thinking... We did have to throw out some food. Now, it doesn't happen often enough for me to think I need (or can afford) a whole house backup/generator. But I wouldn't mind having it for two things. The fridge and our gas furnace. Of course, since I can't control when each would kick on for their highest draws, I'll need to figure out what those are... Have a Kill-A-Wall that should be showing up soon so I'll be able to do that. Not worried about cooking as we can cook on the BBQ or with the propane stoves (outside of course). We don't watch TV and can use our phones for internet (so just keeping them charged too.) Another wrinkle is that I do have an EV I might be able to use to give this a boost. No, not an F-150 Lightening that can power everything itself. ;-) Just a Chevy Bolt. But I could possibly use that to feed power into one of these (12V maybe? or thru an inverter) to also extend the life. I initially was thinking of getting an inverter for my Bolt, but it only supports 1200 or so watts (which would probably do the fridge or the furnace, but not both). So if something like the 1800 would work for those, this might be a really nice backup option, and one we could use for camping, etc also.... Hmmm...
200watts of solar charging is plenty. Most people dont have portable solar panels more than 200watts anyway and fully discharging down to near empty is not recommended. You should top up the capacity as soon as practicable and whenever there is sun shine.
Would I be able to power my mini fridge, portable induction cooktop (minimally each day) and an oil filled heater with both the 1500 and extra battery? Those all feel like such huge draws!
@@tamarap387 I know the fridge is no problem, the cook top uses a lot but you don’t really use it for long periods. The 1500 watt oil heater would probably run less than 2 hours
The jumper cable accessory is ridiculously short. I would love to see a video demonstrating some petite woman using the VTOMAN Jumper 1800 and the jumper cable to jump a SUV with a dead battery. ;-)
Thanks for the great info, I'm looking at the Jump 1500 or 1800, looking to power my 5.3Amp Samsung refrigerator and small chest freezer in case of a power outage. I see videos of people doing heaters & hair dryers..........but not on something like an appliance I mentioned.
Yeah, I demonstrate those use-cases from time to time, but often I'm just trying to show how much load the inverter can handle. Powering the fridge and freezer are not a HUGE lift from an inverter standpoint. As long as you have 1000W continuous support, you'd be fine since they can handle 2000W of peak surge during compressor startup, no problem. The question then is HOW LONG you want to run those loads. My full-size Samsung fridge uses about 90W per hour. So if you needed to power it for 24 hours without any re-charging, you'd need ~ 2400Wh usable capacity (rounding up and accounting for AC inverter losses). Here's a video I did that walks you through the logic: ruclips.net/video/nGG0Hnv9p50/видео.html Hopefully that helps. :)
Hi I'm in the UK...I purchased the Vtoman 600 jump. Tested it on a 47L compressor fridge freezer and got 18 hrs continuous use. I recently bought the extra battery so going to run the rest to see how much I get out of it with the extra battery. So the 1500 or 1800 jump should do very well
Do the VTOMAN power stations have a maximum number of amps for their DC input current? Judging by their AC adapter and their solar panels, there seems to be a limit of about 10 amps. e.g. Their 400 watt solar panel is 40 volts / 10 amps, which seems a bit unusual compared to other brands. If there is a limit, does the excess get "lost" (i.e. less power)?
appreciate the helpful video! Do you know if the jumpstart feature provides continuous current or a large amount of current over a short span of time? I am looking at using the jumper cable feature to send 12V power a fuse panel that will draw about 20amps total. The dc plugs only are 10 amp so I was hoping to utilize the jump start feature to send dc power to my fuse panel in my off-grid trailer. Thanks!
It's a specific circuit that is configured to produce very high current (several hundred Amps) for just a few seconds at a time. So, I don't think it'll work with the fuse panel like you were hoping.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors are you saying it isn’t continuous power? It looks like on the technical data sheet it has a start power of 500amps and a peak of 2000amps. I am looking for a continuous supply of 12v dc around 20amps
Another great video. Thank you for your videos. I had a Jump 1800 and extra battery delivered yesterday. Was unboxed and put on the charger this morning. Will the Jump 1800’s floating neutral cause any problems powering my 2014 high efficiency Rheem furnace during winter power failures?
I’m have some land that I’m working on and I have a large metal building. I want to use one of these solar generators to power Led lights, possibly a couple large fans, radio and for only about 6-8 hours. Then I’ll bring it home and charge it to full capacity in the house. So my question is can I power everything I’ll have in the shop (17x30 metal building)? And which do you prefer. 1000 or the 1800?
I think you'll get the best overall value out of the Jump 1800. But without knowing the power consumption details of the fans, lights and radio, it's had to say if you'd get 6-8 hours of run time. Pick up something like this to know for sure: amzn.to/417HPLM
Just picked up a 1000 after watching these reviews you've made. Thought about the spare battery but the 200w input makes refilling time an issue. Hoping they add a BMS to the spare later so it can be charged on its own solar panel. Also curious if the big spare battery will work on the 600 or if the spare for the 600 can work on the 1000-1800. Thanks for the awesome reviews!
I'm still a little confused about solar wattage input into a power station. If the input is 200 watts max input I can therefore only use, say, two 100 watt solar panels. Correct? Using two 150 watt panels would not be advisable. Thanks!
While I'm not an expert, I'd like to contribute. Based on all indications, the total wattage is 200, so two 100-watt panels should work effectively. I recently connected a pair of Renogy panels and observed a power output of 180 watts under clear skies. The average peak sun in this area, North Carolina, is 5.5 hours, although one source suggests the yearly average is 4.2. Therefore, under ideal conditions, the Vtoman can receive 756 to 990 watts per day.
Is the market moving to over 200 watt solar input like Jackery Pro? Is Vtoman going there soon? I like the Harbor Frieght product that brings in up to 400 Watts of solar. In a pinch traveling getting energy back in fast is a top priority is it not?
Yeah I do believe you're correct in that the market is generally going towards a higher DC input max...even on smaller power stations. I don't know what VTOMAN's plans are, but I've definitely given them the feedback that the main weak link in their product spec is that 200W DC input max. I WILL also say that not everyone is looking for something that they plan to re-charge primarly on solar, and for those people the 200W limit is a non-issue. But I agree with you, it's not unimportant for a lot of us!
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thank you. Dollar wise I have the Jackery 1000 not pro and can only do 200 dc input though bought for XMas $799 Black Friday special last year. Pro was not available at time I don’t think or was new and higher priced. . In retrospect, since I want to do what you did with 800w of panels portable it seems to be forcing me to a pro jackery but I did not understand the limitations until watching some experts as yourself. Thanks again, I’m anxious to put this solar prepping solution to rest at 800 watts of panels into a unit that is portable and lightweight.
Thanks for the video!!! Great breakdown. I want to be clear, if I get a 200w briefcase panel set, it has the potential to overload the system in the battery?
Hi Kenneth. All charge controllers have a rated input voltage range and a max current, which dictates the max input wattage. The most important parameter to be aware of on your solar panel is the VOC number. You want to ensure that the VOC does not exceed the max rated DC input voltage on your power station's charge controller since that can damage it. So as long as the panel's VOC is within the power station DC input voltage range, and the rated output watts of the isn't more than about 20% higher than the power stations stated max input watts, you'd be fine.
Thank you for sharing. I will be the first to admit I know little about these products. I'm comparing the 1500 to the 1000 for a camping power source. Items to power would be a coffeemaker, max fan, and led lighting. What's your opinion of the 2 above for our needs? Thanks again for your time.
Well, their 1500X has a 1500W inverter, but only an 828Wh battery (they also had a 1500 without the 'X' that I think had 1500Wh, but I think that was only available in certain areas for some reason). In any case, the coffeemaker is just on the edge of the inverter capacity of the Jump 1000 - could be cutting it a little close, but probably ok, depending on the coffeemaker. But for a bit more headroom on the AC inverter, the Jump 1500X (or 1500) would give you that. And if you're talking about the 1500X, the lower battery capacity should still be find with what you're powering...and if you're talking the Jump 1500 with 1500Wh, then you're in good shape on both inverter and battery. So really, probably comes down to which one is giving you the best price per Wh.
Hey, thanks for the videos. Can you charge with AC/DC and solar at the same time? I’m thinking for a road trip / overland application - I have solar on my roof and a 110 and obv 12v plug.
I am really enjoying your videos. Lots of good practical information which helps in the decision-making process before making a purchase. Could you possibly include a few comments about using a vehicle 110 V inverter and a vehicle 12 V DC charger? My 2021 RAM 1500 has 2 110 V inverters which only supply "modified sine wave" power which will not work with the Ecoflow Delta 2 and possible other vendors' products. As for the 12 V DC charger maybe information on charging time for the power station if using this method to fully charge the unit.
I really like your videos. Would you recommend such a power station for connecting to the main breaker (using an interlock) ? Also, unfortunately the discount code doesn't seems to work in Canada at the moment.
Sorry about the discount code situation for Canadian viewers. :-/ I don't have any control over what the brand does in that regard. Regarding your question, I think that really depends on what kind of emergency power load you need to support and for how long. These particular units are better suited for portable applications, rather than home backup. For basic home backup, you're going to want something with at least a 2000W AC inverter and at LEAST 2000Wh of capacity (but again...capacity needs would be dictated by how long you need to run your emergency loads). For home backup (while still having portability) you might look at the Pecron E2000LFP with battery expansions, or the Anker Powerhouse 767...or Bluetti and Ecoflow Delta options. Even if you just want to power your Fridge and a gas furnace, you're probably going to realistically want 3000Wh-5000Wh of capacity.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thank you for the clarity! Seems that adding UPS to the BMS should be easy and I hope they see the light. Can't chance my back country food supply on a wish and a prayer. Looking forward to that next video. Keep 'em coming!
I have a 20+ year old Colman Powermate 3500 generator that I want to be able to use as a charging source for the VTOMAN during long term emergency blackouts. We have a refrigerator and small freezer that together pull about 550watts. I was looking for an inverter that produces pure sine wave because the old generator is not that stable and I don't want to wreck the compressors in the units. Also, I don't want the loud noise of the generator drawing attention to our home just to give us power for shorter times. Later I may add solar panels and the extra battery. Question is, would this be a good unit to use in conjunction with the generator for now?
There are ways to do this using a step-up converter to boost the 12V to 24V to get better charging power, but honestly on this particular power station, I don't think the net gain (vs. just using the cigarette lighter port) would be worth the hassle since the max current on the J1800's DC input is something like 7A.
Always enjoy your videos. Maybe you can answer this for me. I've contacted VTOMAN support, but I figured the answer might be useful here. I know that when hooking up solar panels together, either parallel or series, it's best to use panels of the same wattage. But since there are two 5521 charge inputs on the VTOMAN 1800, can I use two different watt solar panels (100 watt and 50 watt), and will I get their combined charge?
I think there's only a single charge controller so you'd still want to use panels with similar output specs, or you will only get the lowest common denominator. As I recall, the dual port is basically a built-in parallel connector. But if I'm wrong and there's actually 2 separate charge controllers, you could use 2 different sized panels in that case... but I'm pretty sure there's just the 1 controller.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors That makes sense! I didn't get much of a reply from VTOMAN, or at least not one that directly answered my question: "The maximum solar panel input of JUMP1800 is 200W, as long as you use the DC5521/DC5525 public socket, you can charge it, but please note that its charging voltage is 12-30V, do not exceed this voltage." Anyway thanks again! Appreciate the quick response.
sorry Mike - just saw this (RUclips is terrible in how it presents comments for me). No I don't think the battery would be considered 'end-user replaceable'.
Thank you for this. I live in Florida and have been so confused about what to get in case of power outages. I am not great with the tech of this and wondered if the jump 1000 would power and electric cooler? It is the best price for me and trying to understand it all :) Thank you so much!
my CPAP machine uses about 28W continuous so, if we round-up and double that, to 60W continous, that'd only be about 480Wh of capacity used in 1 night. So yeah, the Jump 1800 would easily accommodate that for almost 3 full nights. : ) Oh, and no, the solar panels are sold separately.
Not at the moment. :-/ Sorry. I can try reaching out to VTOMAN to see if they might be willing to send me another code. I'll let you know if/when I have something I can share.
Hey, they did send me a new code. Not a huge discount, but should help offset sales tax at least. :) E8E9LISP Valid on the Jump 1000, 1500x, 1500, and 1800.
I'm not certain about that. I suspect that the 600 probably runs at a lower internal voltage configuration than the 1800. If so, you definitely woudl not want to connect them together. I'd reach out to VTOMAN's support via email on that question....or measure the output voltage from the expansion with a multimeter and compare it to the voltage on the input connector of the 600 and see if they're close (within a couple of volts). But if the 600 reads ~12V and the expansion reads ~24V....definitely do not do it.
@@DutchK75 thanks man. Ive been using my hp o scope for this for a decade and its cumbersome and now it throws memory errors so sometimes i do a cycle test and it doesnt give the measurement
You CAN, as long as your transfer switch is 120V and not 240V. I had mine setup as 120V so I can run it from a standard 3-prong AC port, or an RV30 out.
As always, this is a great review. What do you do with those power stations after the test? Do you sell it? I'm asking that because we just moved from Brazil to Colorado and we are starting to build an overlander car from zero and we gonna need to buy everything.
I’m looking at Amazon and see the extra battery is only $150 less then the 1800 power station. Aside from saving $150. Why wouldn’t you just buy a second 1800 station? Am I missing something? Is there a benefit to buying the battery instead of another 1800?
You make a good point! Really the benefit of the extra battery in this case is just the longer, uninterrupted runtime. But I think you could easily make the case that there's a greater benefit in being able to separately re-charge both units independently, and also be able to spread the AC load across 2 units, giving you greater total output capacity.
IF you want the expanded battery capacity to be fully usable at the maximum discharge rate and the state-of-charge indicator to reflect the total remaining capacity, then yeah, you'd have to use their battery. But there IS a workaround that'll cover most of what you'd want to do. I cover that in this video: ruclips.net/video/Xv8KC2MfjGQ/видео.html
The prices of these power stations look too good to be true relative to other well known ones. Is there a catch? Has anyone had these for 3-4 years and still not had any issues?
i like your reviews, been watching for a while now, because of what some friends and neighbors been telling me, i have an idea on a test for some of these units, i would like to see a test where the solar generator is plugged in 24/7, maybe a workshop "type-ish" environment, Will the generator properly solar charge ,day in and day out, over a week or so, just for testing, i ask because some fiends cant get there generators to charge, unless they have sun already out in the sky , otherwise they get nothing at all, after they come home from work they have to unplug for a few minutes and start over, If i can find that brand, that i can set it and forget it, i would like to do this for my workshop, thanks, and keep the good work, i do appreciate the info i have learned from your channel
@@ReeWrayOutdoors thank you, that seems to be a thing around here, and any testing would be so helpful when trying to put together a setup for a workshop or just back up power, thank you again
I am hearing that there is a 6-hour RUN TIMER in these units. They just CUT-OFF, under a continuous load, and require a complete manual restart off the POWER. B4 I buy... I have to know if this is the case. Thanks.
Nope. I tested the Jump 1800 with a 12v fridge set to 41 degF with a bunch of soft drinks in it to increase thermal mass and minimize how often the compressor would need to kick in. Ran continuously for 2.5 days before I terminated the test. How is supposed to work is that after an initial 6hrs, a 2 hr timer window starts. If no load is detected in the 2hr window, the unit power down. If any load is detected during that 2 hr window, the timer will reset.
As always, a great review. It does not come with cables to connect it to solar panels. Does that mean that in order to charge it with solar, you must buy their proprietary panels? If that’s the case, it would be a no go for me.
Not at all. Most portable solar panels will come with a DC5521 connector natively...or include an adapter to DC5521. If you happen to have MC4 connectors on your panels, you can easily find MC4 to DC5521 adapter cables on Amazon for around $15. Or from just about any other connector to DC5521, for that matter.
After reading many reviews and watching a lot of videos, I chose this option for my first backup power station. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHypYDKHAN93Lp2RQpfvU_ksc70wJ00pt I was between this and a larger option that could power a wider range of items, but the price/size/capacity blend seemed right for this unit. Hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, but the build quality is solid and it charges fine via the Rockpals solar panel I purchased to pair with it. One thing to note is that the screen is optimized for a top down viewing angle, which makes sense, but this means it washes out at other angles - especially low angles. Not a huge deal, but perhaps a better option for the display could be used to provide wider viewing angles.
As usual, great review. The lack of UPS and 200 Watt maximum D/C input is a large no-no for me. With regard to that, would've considered the 1800 at introductory of $999. They really have to up their game. Just my opinion.
Yeah, I think if they just expanded the DC input to 400W-600W, they'd immediately become a real practical option for 99% of users. For me, UPS is a 'nice to have' but not really something I absolutely MUST have. So that ommission is not that big a deal (for me).
Yes. You'd just plug the bike charger into an AC plug in the 1800. It works the same as using wall power. And the 1800 has about 2x the capacity of the average Ebike.
I don't know why Jackery's are so popular. They are way overpriced for what you get. These take a long time to charge but many people who would buy a Jackery would most likely recharge it with AC house power anyways.
I was really interested in these, but a few things might steer me towards EcoFlow. First, I HATE the handle design! They should've made a flat design so you can stack them. Second, "JUMP" is right in the name, yet you have to buy the "jumper cable accessory" to be able to use that feature, and they're only about a foot long, seems a bit silly IMO. Third the "technology" they use to claim the boost output but they can't power a microwave?
Fair criticisms. They originally did include the Jumper cable module, but stopped when they started shipping Rev. 2 of the Jump 1000...and the length does make it tricky to use if you can't balance the unit right up next to the battery. As far as the AC Inverter boost feature, most major brands all have the same kind of thing (Bluetti = Power Lifting, EcoFlow= X-Boost, etc)...and in all cases it's not something you want to use when trying to power anything with complex circuitry...really only good for fans, lights and space heaters. So if you need to power a microwave, you need to get something with a suitable AC Inverter capacity for that (like 1500W continuous or more).
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thanks for the response, I noticed the holes on the top of the handles, do you think the screw can be removed to take the handle of to be able to stack them? Without the case coming apart?
@@tonyinfinity OK, so yes! You can remove that top handle with a 3/16" Allen wrench and a little elbow-grease (since they put a dab of glue under that piece contact point as well). However, there's still about a 1/2" lip that sticks up around the handle 'sockets'.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Wow, thanks, that's service! You just earned a subscribe! Ya I noticed the molded plastic around the handle, i figured I could stick some round phone mount plates in the corners for the unit to sit on and it might make up the difference. Thanks again for taking the time to do that!
The price is most impacted by the battery capacity. These Jump model numbers typically refer to the AC Inverter capacity - so while the 1500 has a larger inverter - handingly up to 1500W continuous, it's actual battery capacity is lower than the Jump 1000 - and that's why the price difference.
Don't get me wrong - I like EcoFlow...and the Delta, BUT the Delta mini you're citing has a Max inverter of 1400W and a rated battery capacity of only 882Wh - and both specs are significantly higher on the Jump 1800....and really, it's the battery capacity number that has the biggest impact on price and the Jump 1800 is a 1500Wh battery. So at least in terms of 'bang for the buck", I still hold to what I said in the video. 😜
@@ReeWrayOutdoors ok thank you didn’t know it had that but it does. After my setpower 21qt is set I guess it shuts off after awhile. I use at home at the moment but transitioning soon into my car. Thank you again! I appreciate it!
I just purchased the Jump 1000 and I plan to use it for my monitors and PC. I already have two UPS's that I planned on plugging into the Jump 1000 to get UPS functionality. Does anyone foresee any problems doing this?
I'd say about 1/2 of the 20 or so Power Stations I've reviewed use them for DC inputs....and nearly all of them use them for DC accessory outputs. So, not as rare as you might think.
Yes, it's definitely a limitation that, were it to be improved, would be very hard to beat. That said, you'd be surprised how many people never put more than 200W of solar on these. But for those that do, it's a deal-breaker...and that's why I tried to make sure I was very clear about it in the video. I do appreciate you joining the conversation!
I agree, the extremely low solar input capability essentially makes these NOT-solar generators. Their intended audience seems to be folks that charge via outlet only and keep them for backups or other use. The solar input is so low that there's no way to keep using the power stations while solar charging as it would take too long to recharge before the unit is completely drained.
Sorry to hear that yours died. I've had numerous others comment that their Jump power stations are performing great, so I don't think your experience is typical. And, let's be real here, there's no such thing as a product with a 0% failure rate. Did you reach out to VTOMAN about this? I'd be curious to know how they respond to your issue.
While I want to clarify that I'm not an expert, I have conducted some research on the topic. In terms of basic charging capability, both options will suffice, though some report that a 200-watt panel *might* provide slightly more energy. However, each has its advantages, as is often the case with life's choices. If you're planning a permanent installation, a single 200-watt panel will be considerably larger than a 100-watt panel, which may not be an issue for you. On the other hand, having two panels could provide a slight advantage if you intend to use them as portable power sources. In the event that one panel gets shaded while the other doesn't, you would still receive some power input.
I ordered a second Vtoman 1000 to add to my Vtoman 1000 and Vtoman 1500. I am 96% off grid using these and shall cut my energy bills be that much. I switched to 15 quart refrigerators by using plastic bags for storage. Vtoman are great !!!
I'm a Canadian living in the Rockies ... very small mountainous community living style. Long term power outages are rare as I am surrounded by 13 large scale hydro-electric damns but ... who knows what to expect? I have a generator but living remotely as I do means access to fuel is limited and constrained ... so I decided to purchase a power station for insurance. I watched several reviews and followed ReeWray's review in the end. I balanced all the issues for my needs and bought the VTOMAN 1500X package with extra battery and 2 each 100W solar panels. It was delivered today and I am very impressed with shipping, packaging, manufacture, and fit. It took just 5.25 business days from order to delivered and the packaging was high quality and showed no damage. The products themselves are of high quality manufacture and fit. I have fully charged the system and all power outputs work as described. Yes the charging times are longer than Li-ion but the number of recycles are huge in comparison so it is a trade-off. I would recommend this system to any of my friends ... even to people I don't like ... heck, I Am Canadian ... Eh!
Thanks Warren! BTW - where you live sounds AMAZING! I've not been to the Canadian Rockies, but I've been all the way up in Kitimat BC (if you can believe that). Rugged, beautiful country. OH! And also Ft. McMurray in Alberta, once upon a time (doing some work in the oil sands).
Gotta love those Rockies! Have backpacked many a time in them! I have a question to ask and hope you might be able to answer! I'm looking to power a mini fridge, a portable (but minimal daily used) induction cooktop, as well as probably an oil filled heater...in a 12x12 insulated shed/shack. If I were to get a system like yours (would you mind letting me know your final tally?), do you think that would be possible (even if I didn't run everything ever at the same time)? And how often do you think I'd have to recharge? Very much appreciate any insight you can give me. I really want to be independent of the electric grid here in NS!!
@@tamarap387 Hi Tamara. I do not believe a power station will meet your needs. My station holds 2,300 watts and cost $2,300 CDN. These stations are excellent for powering low watt consuming devices or high watt consuming devices for short periods of time. For example, my station will power a 17 watt LED light bulb for 135 hours (2,300 / 17 = 135) or power a 70 watt laptop computer for over 30 hours but will only power an oil filled heater for 2.5 hours set on medium heat or 900 watts. These devices typically have 3 settings of either 600 watts (Low), 900 watts (Medium), or 1,500 watts (High). A typical single burner induction stove top consumes 1,800 watts of energy so you could only run this device for just over an hours in total. Best of luck!
@@warrenpeterson6065 Thanks very much! Trying to find a solution without breaking the bank!
I attempted my due diligence and your video really helped sealed the deal to try the VTOMAN. now I'm going to see if your have reviewed portable solar panels for my pop up camper camping. We live in Florida on the beach and we get hit with hurricanes so this can serve several situations and not just camping. thank you so much for your honest reviews.
Very helpful. Thanks for sharing.
Great video. Thanks for all the hard work.
Thanks for your excellent reviews. I received my VTOMAN 1800 with Xtra Battery yesterday and they added a free portable power washer with Jump Start device. I have a Delta 2 EcoFlow and the VTOMAN will serve well even with the long charging times. All that for $1600. Appreciate your thoroughness and PRO's and CONS.
I appreciate your videos. Ended up buying the 1000
We love your wealth of knowledge and how pleasantly you present the information. We bought the Vitoman 1000 to keep our portable Dometic running while boon-docking over night or at rest areas. Thank you for all you do to educated your watchers
Thanks so much for the kind words, Joe! Sincerely appreciated.
excellent review. having the 1800 and the extra battery for a of couple weeks now, i can say the number one change i wish they would make is shorten the battery charge times. 16 hours for both batteries to charge would be very inconvenient to say the least, especially IF i was using this over a few day power outage. an outage may not be likely to happen that long, but i’d really want a 2 hour (an hour each for unit and extra battery) ac recharge time and over double the solar input wattage. ecoflow happens offer that plus a 5 year warranty. let me be clear, this review is spot on. the vtoman 1800 w/extra battery is a good value and appears well made. but, the slow charging, low solar wattage and missing app (which kills any future firmware updates, i believe) are it’s few drawbacks. again, thanks for the review!
All fair criticisms of this product.
The app is an extra thing to go wrong. Why would you need to update a firmware if the product works
It doesn't help with large batteries.
This powerstation seems great for the campers who just wanna charge something up to take for their trip and charge it later again when the trip is done or at the hotel. Most people don’t utilize solar on quick getaways etc. so this power station seems to fit this demographic well.
I’ve just purchased the Jump 1500 on a new customer and Easter promo (stacked discount) for £499! My largest concern was buying cheap could mean buying twice. Great to hear your vote of confidence in the product range. We’re weekend roof tent campers so should do great.
I just got the 1500 jump with solar panels ordered today in the UK.
Nice looking unit.
I ordered one and when I received it, it didn't work. They answered email the next day with shipping label and I sent it back. Less than a week later I got another and it's been fine. This is for backup power at home while generators resting and camper backup. 2 year warranty and great customer service, only gripe is it takes a while to charge it back up.
I'm looking at the VTOMAN 1800 mainly for a 12V car fridge for trips that are 5-6 days. Will be using it for charging my phones and a few lights and fans too and charging it while driving.
Trying to get away with not needing solar panels and being able to run a 12V car fridge for 3-4 days without charging it if possible.
Once again a Great video with a lot of helpful information.
How's it working out?
Yes how is it working out
@@deooptimomaximo9843 I tested it running a car fridge. I got 3 days from it with the temp set to below freezing. It was about 90 degrees each day, and parked in the garage overnight. At the end of the 3rd day it was at 16%. Only charged it while driving, approx. 1 hour a day.
Haven't been able to try my solar panel for it yet. But I have a 100W folding panel that I plan to use with my 300 and 500 Wh batteries for my phone, etc...
I tested recharging the VTOMAN using the 500wh generator and it worked.
I'm hoping to get to put everything to use this summer. I've just been putting off building a bed platform.
I did a couple of tests around the house and it worked pretty good. I tried recharging it with my 500wh generator and it worked. I didn't get a chance to test the 100w solar panels yet.
I want to use it with the fridge this summer. I just need to stop being lazy and build a bed out of plywood.
Wow! Still great savings on Amazon.
I'm considering getting an 1800, and possibly a 1000 to alternate while the other charges...to have an entire other unit.
Seems more practical than an extra battery.
Thanks as always for the excellent content and valuable time!
Be safe. 👍✌️
I just ordered the 1800. Thanks man!
How is it holding up?
ANOTHER AWESOME EDUCATION VIDEO!! THANK YOU!!
Incredible review, I'm new to power stations since our recent outage here in Michigan. I've learned so much, thank you.
Personally I own vtoman jump 1000. After searching all the reviews. But you never know in real life.. so I went to winter camping few times it works great.. I am gonna get jump cable and extra battery too..
I have the 600X, recently added the extra battery. 160W folding panels keep it charged if I have enough sun.
@Steven Claggett I just bout Two 120 watts panel.. in good sunny day I get 198 watts out of two 120 watt panel. It works great.. can't complain..
On this day, April 14th, Wal Mart has this 1800 jump unit for $1099.00, and thats with the 200 watt solar panel.
Thanks for the video sir... We have been shopping for something like this for our vendor boths at outside events during the summer and fall. It's great to have something that can possibly run a fan, provide some lighting and or possibly a small fridge
Great info.... Been thinking about these types of things...
We had a multiday power outage awhile ago and it got me thinking... We did have to throw out some food. Now, it doesn't happen often enough for me to think I need (or can afford) a whole house backup/generator.
But I wouldn't mind having it for two things. The fridge and our gas furnace. Of course, since I can't control when each would kick on for their highest draws, I'll need to figure out what those are...
Have a Kill-A-Wall that should be showing up soon so I'll be able to do that.
Not worried about cooking as we can cook on the BBQ or with the propane stoves (outside of course). We don't watch TV and can use our phones for internet (so just keeping them charged too.)
Another wrinkle is that I do have an EV I might be able to use to give this a boost. No, not an F-150 Lightening that can power everything itself. ;-)
Just a Chevy Bolt. But I could possibly use that to feed power into one of these (12V maybe? or thru an inverter) to also extend the life.
I initially was thinking of getting an inverter for my Bolt, but it only supports 1200 or so watts (which would probably do the fridge or the furnace, but not both).
So if something like the 1800 would work for those, this might be a really nice backup option, and one we could use for camping, etc also.... Hmmm...
200watts of solar charging is plenty. Most people dont have portable solar panels more than 200watts anyway and fully discharging down to near empty is not recommended. You should top up the capacity as soon as practicable and whenever there is sun shine.
I have the 1500 and extra battery they work great
Would I be able to power my mini fridge, portable induction cooktop (minimally each day) and an oil filled heater with both the 1500 and extra battery? Those all feel like such huge draws!
@@tamarap387
I know the fridge is no problem, the cook top uses a lot but you don’t really use it for long periods. The 1500 watt oil heater would probably run less than 2 hours
The jumper cable accessory is ridiculously short. I would love to see a video demonstrating some petite woman using the VTOMAN Jumper 1800 and the jumper cable to jump a SUV with a dead battery. ;-)
Ha! Yeah that is a fair point. I'd like to see those leads at least 12 inches longer, or, more to your point, maybe 6 ft long as an option.
Awesome content!
Thank you sir!
good review, thank you 👍👍
Thanks for the great info, I'm looking at the Jump 1500 or 1800, looking to power my 5.3Amp Samsung refrigerator and small chest freezer in case of a power outage. I see videos of people doing heaters & hair dryers..........but not on something like an appliance I mentioned.
Yeah, I demonstrate those use-cases from time to time, but often I'm just trying to show how much load the inverter can handle. Powering the fridge and freezer are not a HUGE lift from an inverter standpoint. As long as you have 1000W continuous support, you'd be fine since they can handle 2000W of peak surge during compressor startup, no problem. The question then is HOW LONG you want to run those loads. My full-size Samsung fridge uses about 90W per hour. So if you needed to power it for 24 hours without any re-charging, you'd need ~ 2400Wh usable capacity (rounding up and accounting for AC inverter losses). Here's a video I did that walks you through the logic: ruclips.net/video/nGG0Hnv9p50/видео.html Hopefully that helps. :)
Hi I'm in the UK...I purchased the Vtoman 600 jump. Tested it on a 47L compressor fridge freezer and got 18 hrs continuous use. I recently bought the extra battery so going to run the rest to see how much I get out of it with the extra battery. So the 1500 or 1800 jump should do very well
What would you plug into the 5521’s?
Do the VTOMAN power stations have a maximum number of amps for their DC input current? Judging by their AC adapter and their solar panels, there seems to be a limit of about 10 amps. e.g. Their 400 watt solar panel is 40 volts / 10 amps, which seems a bit unusual compared to other brands. If there is a limit, does the excess get "lost" (i.e. less power)?
On their website, the jump 1800, has a 400 watt dc input, did they upgrade the unit since you made the video?
Great analysis. Use the same criteria I’d use. Nice job
Thank you sir!
It looks like it packed a punch to me....
Is there a particular reason why one would choose the Vtoman 1800 vs the 1500? Thanks.
Very good job 👍 thx
I bought the Jump 1800 and was wondering if there were any issue with this staying in a hot car. Fire risks etc.
Nice! Would be better if the solar input is more than 200 watts, atleast 300-400watts to make it really usable daily.
That was by design.. so they can sell you that 2nd battery. :)
Do the 3 DC outputs each supply 10A or is 10A shared between all 3 ports? Thanks!
I'm pretty sure it is 10A total for all 3 combined.
I talked to vtoman customer service about the wh on the 600× i have and they confirmed in a email that the usable wh on all their batteries is 85%.
Did they change the input watts on the 1800? I bought it and it says it is 400 watt input max.
Does the Vtoman 1500 and 1500x also have pass through solar charging?
appreciate the helpful video! Do you know if the jumpstart feature provides continuous current or a large amount of current over a short span of time? I am looking at using the jumper cable feature to send 12V power a fuse panel that will draw about 20amps total. The dc plugs only are 10 amp so I was hoping to utilize the jump start feature to send dc power to my fuse panel in my off-grid trailer. Thanks!
It's a specific circuit that is configured to produce very high current (several hundred Amps) for just a few seconds at a time. So, I don't think it'll work with the fuse panel like you were hoping.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors are you saying it isn’t continuous power? It looks like on the technical data sheet it has a start power of 500amps and a peak of 2000amps. I am looking for a continuous supply of 12v dc around 20amps
Another great video. Thank you for your videos. I had a Jump 1800 and extra battery delivered yesterday. Was unboxed and put on the charger this morning. Will the Jump 1800’s floating neutral cause any problems powering my 2014 high efficiency Rheem furnace during winter power failures?
Thanks Don! I wouldn't think there'd be any issues there. Please check back and let us know though if you learn otherwise.
I’m have some land that I’m working on and I have a large metal building. I want to use one of these solar generators to power Led lights, possibly a couple large fans, radio and for only about 6-8 hours. Then I’ll bring it home and charge it to full capacity in the house.
So my question is can I power everything I’ll have in the shop (17x30 metal building)? And which do you prefer. 1000 or the 1800?
I think you'll get the best overall value out of the Jump 1800. But without knowing the power consumption details of the fans, lights and radio, it's had to say if you'd get 6-8 hours of run time. Pick up something like this to know for sure: amzn.to/417HPLM
Just picked up a 1000 after watching these reviews you've made. Thought about the spare battery but the 200w input makes refilling time an issue. Hoping they add a BMS to the spare later so it can be charged on its own solar panel. Also curious if the big spare battery will work on the 600 or if the spare for the 600 can work on the 1000-1800. Thanks for the awesome reviews!
No. The back up batteries are NOT interchangeable. The 600 extra works only with 600× , 1000 extra battery only works with the 1000 power station
I'm still a little confused about solar wattage input into a power station. If the input is 200 watts max input I can therefore only use, say, two 100 watt solar panels.
Correct? Using two 150 watt panels would not be advisable. Thanks!
While I'm not an expert, I'd like to contribute. Based on all indications, the total wattage is 200, so two 100-watt panels should work effectively. I recently connected a pair of Renogy panels and observed a power output of 180 watts under clear skies. The average peak sun in this area, North Carolina, is 5.5 hours, although one source suggests the yearly average is 4.2. Therefore, under ideal conditions, the Vtoman can receive 756 to 990 watts per day.
Is the market moving to over 200 watt solar input like Jackery Pro? Is Vtoman going there soon? I like the Harbor Frieght product that brings in up to 400 Watts of solar. In a pinch traveling getting energy back in fast is a top priority is it not?
Yeah I do believe you're correct in that the market is generally going towards a higher DC input max...even on smaller power stations. I don't know what VTOMAN's plans are, but I've definitely given them the feedback that the main weak link in their product spec is that 200W DC input max. I WILL also say that not everyone is looking for something that they plan to re-charge primarly on solar, and for those people the 200W limit is a non-issue. But I agree with you, it's not unimportant for a lot of us!
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thank you. Dollar wise I have the Jackery 1000 not pro and can only do 200 dc input though bought for XMas $799 Black Friday special last year. Pro was not available at time I don’t think or was new and higher priced. . In retrospect, since I want to do what you did with 800w of panels portable it seems to be forcing me to a pro jackery but I did not understand the limitations until watching some experts as yourself. Thanks again, I’m anxious to put this solar prepping solution to rest at 800 watts of panels into a unit that is portable and lightweight.
Have you had a chance to look into the Harbor freight thunderbolt 100 W solar panel briefcase
Thanks for the video!!! Great breakdown. I want to be clear, if I get a 200w briefcase panel set, it has the potential to overload the system in the battery?
Hi Kenneth. All charge controllers have a rated input voltage range and a max current, which dictates the max input wattage. The most important parameter to be aware of on your solar panel is the VOC number. You want to ensure that the VOC does not exceed the max rated DC input voltage on your power station's charge controller since that can damage it. So as long as the panel's VOC is within the power station DC input voltage range, and the rated output watts of the isn't more than about 20% higher than the power stations stated max input watts, you'd be fine.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors I understand, I was looking at purchasing two of the portable 100w panels from VTO as well. Thank yoU!!!
@@kennethcunningham8624 Sure, happy to help!
Thank you for sharing. I will be the first to admit I know little about these products. I'm comparing the 1500 to the 1000 for a camping power source. Items to power would be a coffeemaker, max fan, and led lighting. What's your opinion of the 2 above for our needs? Thanks again for your time.
Well, their 1500X has a 1500W inverter, but only an 828Wh battery (they also had a 1500 without the 'X' that I think had 1500Wh, but I think that was only available in certain areas for some reason). In any case, the coffeemaker is just on the edge of the inverter capacity of the Jump 1000 - could be cutting it a little close, but probably ok, depending on the coffeemaker. But for a bit more headroom on the AC inverter, the Jump 1500X (or 1500) would give you that. And if you're talking about the 1500X, the lower battery capacity should still be find with what you're powering...and if you're talking the Jump 1500 with 1500Wh, then you're in good shape on both inverter and battery. So really, probably comes down to which one is giving you the best price per Wh.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors thank you
Hey, thanks for the videos. Can you charge with AC/DC and solar at the same time? I’m thinking for a road trip / overland application - I have solar on my roof and a 110 and obv 12v plug.
The Jump series does have 2 inputs, BUT it also has a max of 200W in, so that's not going to get you much if you're already using the AC adapter
I am really enjoying your videos. Lots of good practical information which helps in the decision-making process before making a purchase. Could you possibly include a few comments about using a vehicle 110 V inverter and a vehicle 12 V DC charger? My 2021 RAM 1500 has 2 110 V inverters which only supply "modified sine wave" power which will not work with the Ecoflow Delta 2 and possible other vendors' products. As for the 12 V DC charger maybe information on charging time for the power station if using this method to fully charge the unit.
Can you review the jump 1500x please
Or 1500
I really like your videos. Would you recommend such a power station for connecting to the main breaker (using an interlock) ? Also, unfortunately the discount code doesn't seems to work in Canada at the moment.
Sorry about the discount code situation for Canadian viewers. :-/ I don't have any control over what the brand does in that regard. Regarding your question, I think that really depends on what kind of emergency power load you need to support and for how long. These particular units are better suited for portable applications, rather than home backup. For basic home backup, you're going to want something with at least a 2000W AC inverter and at LEAST 2000Wh of capacity (but again...capacity needs would be dictated by how long you need to run your emergency loads). For home backup (while still having portability) you might look at the Pecron E2000LFP with battery expansions, or the Anker Powerhouse 767...or Bluetti and Ecoflow Delta options. Even if you just want to power your Fridge and a gas furnace, you're probably going to realistically want 3000Wh-5000Wh of capacity.
Please help me understand: is a vtoman power bank a true uninterruptible power supply?? Thanks for the help!
No the Jump series do not have UPS mode. The new VTOMAN FlashSpeed 1500 apparently does though and I'm in the process of testing it. Video soon.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thank you for the clarity! Seems that adding UPS to the BMS should be easy and I hope they see the light. Can't chance my back country food supply on a wish and a prayer. Looking forward to that next video. Keep 'em coming!
I have a 20+ year old Colman Powermate 3500 generator that I want to be able to use as a charging source for the VTOMAN during long term emergency blackouts. We have a refrigerator and small freezer that together pull about 550watts. I was looking for an inverter that produces pure sine wave because the old generator is not that stable and I don't want to wreck the compressors in the units. Also, I don't want the loud noise of the generator drawing attention to our home just to give us power for shorter times. Later I may add solar panels and the extra battery. Question is, would this be a good unit to use in conjunction with the generator for now?
Certainly. You can just plug the VTOMAN's AC adapter into the Coleman generator's AC outlets when necessary and recharge from that.
Can you charge the Vtoman Jump 1800 from your truck alternator 12v system?
There are ways to do this using a step-up converter to boost the 12V to 24V to get better charging power, but honestly on this particular power station, I don't think the net gain (vs. just using the cigarette lighter port) would be worth the hassle since the max current on the J1800's DC input is something like 7A.
Great review but that 200w limit on solar is a no go for me.
Yeah, it's definitely a deal-breaker for some people.
Always enjoy your videos. Maybe you can answer this for me. I've contacted VTOMAN support, but I figured the answer might be useful here. I know that when hooking up solar panels together, either parallel or series, it's best to use panels of the same wattage. But since there are two 5521 charge inputs on the VTOMAN 1800, can I use two different watt solar panels (100 watt and 50 watt), and will I get their combined charge?
I think there's only a single charge controller so you'd still want to use panels with similar output specs, or you will only get the lowest common denominator. As I recall, the dual port is basically a built-in parallel connector. But if I'm wrong and there's actually 2 separate charge controllers, you could use 2 different sized panels in that case... but I'm pretty sure there's just the 1 controller.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors That makes sense! I didn't get much of a reply from VTOMAN, or at least not one that directly answered my question:
"The maximum solar panel input of JUMP1800 is 200W, as long as you use the DC5521/DC5525 public socket, you can charge it, but please note that its charging voltage is 12-30V, do not exceed this voltage."
Anyway thanks again! Appreciate the quick response.
Can the battery be replaced if faulty?
sorry Mike - just saw this (RUclips is terrible in how it presents comments for me). No I don't think the battery would be considered 'end-user replaceable'.
Thank you for this. I live in Florida and have been so confused about what to get in case of power outages. I am not great with the tech of this and wondered if the jump 1000 would power and electric cooler? It is the best price for me and trying to understand it all :) Thank you so much!
It will definitely power an electric cooler. Do you have a particular cooler now, or were you thinking of getting one to go with it?
😫 Discount code doesn't work anymore...
I have a question my wife and I use a CPAP Machine with this vtoman will hold two CPAP ?for the nite.also does it come with solor?
my CPAP machine uses about 28W continuous so, if we round-up and double that, to 60W continous, that'd only be about 480Wh of capacity used in 1 night. So yeah, the Jump 1800 would easily accommodate that for almost 3 full nights. : ) Oh, and no, the solar panels are sold separately.
Can you charge and discharge at the same time. I mean can we use the powerstation while it is charging?
Yes you can. All the VTOMAN power stations allow for this.
Can I just check that the 600x could handle powering a nutri bullet and travel kettle?
Hi. Great video. Don’t you have other promo code, do you? 😬
Not at the moment. :-/ Sorry. I can try reaching out to VTOMAN to see if they might be willing to send me another code. I'll let you know if/when I have something I can share.
Hey, they did send me a new code. Not a huge discount, but should help offset sales tax at least. :) E8E9LISP Valid on the Jump 1000, 1500x, 1500, and 1800.
All good just that slow charging plug in sux
would this last long if you plug 5 lights into it
depends completely on what kinds of lights you're talking about. :)
here is a question for you, does the jump 1500 extra battery work with the smaller jump 600??
i have both and notice the connecting lead fits both...
I'm not certain about that. I suspect that the 600 probably runs at a lower internal voltage configuration than the 1800. If so, you definitely woudl not want to connect them together. I'd reach out to VTOMAN's support via email on that question....or measure the output voltage from the expansion with a multimeter and compare it to the voltage on the input connector of the 600 and see if they're close (within a couple of volts). But if the 600 reads ~12V and the expansion reads ~24V....definitely do not do it.
I would like to know where you got the capacity tester
Probably from Makerhawk they make them. I have one.
@@DutchK75 thanks man. Ive been using my hp o scope for this for a decade and its cumbersome and now it throws memory errors so sometimes i do a cycle test and it doesnt give the measurement
How can you connect the 1800 to transfer switch? No L14-30 port :(
You CAN, as long as your transfer switch is 120V and not 240V. I had mine setup as 120V so I can run it from a standard 3-prong AC port, or an RV30 out.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Ok i was thinking that. I have only seen the 4 breaker model with the normal 120v plug. Do they make a 6?
$949 on Amazon as of 4/17/23 with a $450 dollar Amazon clip coupon
As always, this is a great review.
What do you do with those power stations after the test? Do you sell it?
I'm asking that because we just moved from Brazil to Colorado and we are starting to build an overlander car from zero and we gonna need to buy everything.
I’m looking at Amazon and see the extra battery is only $150 less then the 1800 power station. Aside from saving $150. Why wouldn’t you just buy a second 1800 station? Am I missing something? Is there a benefit to buying the battery instead of another 1800?
You make a good point! Really the benefit of the extra battery in this case is just the longer, uninterrupted runtime. But I think you could easily make the case that there's a greater benefit in being able to separately re-charge both units independently, and also be able to spread the AC load across 2 units, giving you greater total output capacity.
Also, dumb question but are you stuck with their second battery or can you hook up your own, if you had the right adapter?
IF you want the expanded battery capacity to be fully usable at the maximum discharge rate and the state-of-charge indicator to reflect the total remaining capacity, then yeah, you'd have to use their battery. But there IS a workaround that'll cover most of what you'd want to do. I cover that in this video: ruclips.net/video/Xv8KC2MfjGQ/видео.html
Too many "don't do" to be worthy of my time. Thank you.
Why is the 1500x so much cheaper than the 1000, and not more? Is the larger Wh more desirable than the larger wattage capacity?
Battery capacity is more expensive than Inverter capacity.
The prices of these power stations look too good to be true relative to other well known ones. Is there a catch? Has anyone had these for 3-4 years and still not had any issues?
i like your reviews, been watching for a while now,
because of what some friends and neighbors been telling me, i have an idea on a test for some of these units,
i would like to see a test where the solar generator is plugged in 24/7, maybe a workshop "type-ish" environment,
Will the generator properly solar charge ,day in and day out, over a week or so, just for testing,
i ask because some fiends cant get there generators to charge, unless they have sun already out in the sky ,
otherwise they get nothing at all, after they come home from work they have to unplug for a few minutes and start over,
If i can find that brand, that i can set it and forget it, i would like to do this for my workshop,
thanks, and keep the good work, i do appreciate the info i have learned from your channel
I seem to recall that was/is an issue on the Jackery 1000/2000 Pro. But I could add that to my test 'recipe'. :)
@@ReeWrayOutdoors thank you, that seems to be a thing around here, and any testing would be so helpful when trying to put together a setup for a workshop or just back up power, thank you again
I am hearing that there is a 6-hour RUN TIMER in these units. They just CUT-OFF, under a continuous load, and require a complete manual restart off the POWER. B4 I buy... I have to know if this is the case. Thanks.
Nope. I tested the Jump 1800 with a 12v fridge set to 41 degF with a bunch of soft drinks in it to increase thermal mass and minimize how often the compressor would need to kick in. Ran continuously for 2.5 days before I terminated the test. How is supposed to work is that after an initial 6hrs, a 2 hr timer window starts. If no load is detected in the 2hr window, the unit power down. If any load is detected during that 2 hr window, the timer will reset.
How is the 1800 less expensive than the flash1500?
The FlashSpeed series have UPS mode and much faster AC and Solar charging capabilities than the Jump series.
How much does the 1800 weigh?
~38 lbs
As always, a great review. It does not come with cables to connect it to solar panels. Does that mean that in order to charge it with solar, you must buy their proprietary panels? If that’s the case, it would be a no go for me.
Not at all. Most portable solar panels will come with a DC5521 connector natively...or include an adapter to DC5521. If you happen to have MC4 connectors on your panels, you can easily find MC4 to DC5521 adapter cables on Amazon for around $15. Or from just about any other connector to DC5521, for that matter.
Can you run 2 200watt panels in the 2 inputs on the jump 1800?
After reading many reviews and watching a lot of videos, I chose this option for my first backup power station. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHypYDKHAN93Lp2RQpfvU_ksc70wJ00pt I was between this and a larger option that could power a wider range of items, but the price/size/capacity blend seemed right for this unit. Hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, but the build quality is solid and it charges fine via the Rockpals solar panel I purchased to pair with it. One thing to note is that the screen is optimized for a top down viewing angle, which makes sense, but this means it washes out at other angles - especially low angles. Not a huge deal, but perhaps a better option for the display could be used to provide wider viewing angles.
As usual, great review. The lack of UPS and 200 Watt maximum D/C input is a large no-no for me. With regard to that, would've considered the 1800 at introductory of $999. They really have to up their game. Just my opinion.
Yeah, I think if they just expanded the DC input to 400W-600W, they'd immediately become a real practical option for 99% of users. For me, UPS is a 'nice to have' but not really something I absolutely MUST have. So that ommission is not that big a deal (for me).
Will the 1800 charge an electric bike a very hard question to get answered.
Yes. You'd just plug the bike charger into an AC plug in the 1800. It works the same as using wall power. And the 1800 has about 2x the capacity of the average Ebike.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors At last thanks much appreciated.
I don't know why Jackery's are so popular. They are way overpriced for what you get. These take a long time to charge but many people who would buy a Jackery would most likely recharge it with AC house power anyways.
Only drawback I see is the fact that you can only push 220 watts of solar through the big boy.
I was really interested in these, but a few things might steer me towards EcoFlow. First, I HATE the handle design! They should've made a flat design so you can stack them. Second, "JUMP" is right in the name, yet you have to buy the "jumper cable accessory" to be able to use that feature, and they're only about a foot long, seems a bit silly IMO. Third the "technology" they use to claim the boost output but they can't power a microwave?
Fair criticisms. They originally did include the Jumper cable module, but stopped when they started shipping Rev. 2 of the Jump 1000...and the length does make it tricky to use if you can't balance the unit right up next to the battery. As far as the AC Inverter boost feature, most major brands all have the same kind of thing (Bluetti = Power Lifting, EcoFlow= X-Boost, etc)...and in all cases it's not something you want to use when trying to power anything with complex circuitry...really only good for fans, lights and space heaters. So if you need to power a microwave, you need to get something with a suitable AC Inverter capacity for that (like 1500W continuous or more).
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thanks for the response, I noticed the holes on the top of the handles, do you think the screw can be removed to take the handle of to be able to stack them? Without the case coming apart?
@@tonyinfinity Well....Let's find out! :) I'll report back...
@@tonyinfinity OK, so yes! You can remove that top handle with a 3/16" Allen wrench and a little elbow-grease (since they put a dab of glue under that piece contact point as well). However, there's still about a 1/2" lip that sticks up around the handle 'sockets'.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Wow, thanks, that's service! You just earned a subscribe! Ya I noticed the molded plastic around the handle, i figured I could stick some round phone mount plates in the corners for the unit to sit on and it might make up the difference. Thanks again for taking the time to do that!
Why does the 1000 cost more than the 1500?
The price is most impacted by the battery capacity. These Jump model numbers typically refer to the AC Inverter capacity - so while the 1500 has a larger inverter - handingly up to 1500W continuous, it's actual battery capacity is lower than the Jump 1000 - and that's why the price difference.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Interesting, was deciding between the two as a first time buyer. Thx for the reply 👍🏻
Eco Flow Delta mini is even better... $800 for 2100 watts ..
Don't get me wrong - I like EcoFlow...and the Delta, BUT the Delta mini you're citing has a Max inverter of 1400W and a rated battery capacity of only 882Wh - and both specs are significantly higher on the Jump 1800....and really, it's the battery capacity number that has the biggest impact on price and the Jump 1800 is a 1500Wh battery. So at least in terms of 'bang for the buck", I still hold to what I said in the video. 😜
@@ReeWrayOutdoors They bullsh## me....
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Good thing l got two Delta Max units. I got three 3600 watt Nature's Generator's Elite. Will they come in handy?
Why does my 1500x shut off on its own
Does it shut off while powering something? If it's not powering something, or something with a very small power draw (like
@@ReeWrayOutdoors ok thank you didn’t know it had that but it does. After my setpower 21qt is set I guess it shuts off after awhile. I use at home at the moment but transitioning soon into my car. Thank you again! I appreciate it!
I just purchased the Jump 1000 and I plan to use it for my monitors and PC. I already have two UPS's that I planned on plugging into the Jump 1000 to get UPS functionality. Does anyone foresee any problems doing this?
5521, who uses that????
It's a half decent connector. It's certainly more solid than a cigarette lighter.
I'd say about 1/2 of the 20 or so Power Stations I've reviewed use them for DC inputs....and nearly all of them use them for DC accessory outputs. So, not as rare as you might think.
I would do that but the solar input makes it unusable. They need to change that dynamic it's the main purpose of these things.
Yes, it's definitely a limitation that, were it to be improved, would be very hard to beat. That said, you'd be surprised how many people never put more than 200W of solar on these. But for those that do, it's a deal-breaker...and that's why I tried to make sure I was very clear about it in the video. I do appreciate you joining the conversation!
I agree, the extremely low solar input capability essentially makes these NOT-solar generators. Their intended audience seems to be folks that charge via outlet only and keep them for backups or other use.
The solar input is so low that there's no way to keep using the power stations while solar charging as it would take too long to recharge before the unit is completely drained.
The one on "your furthest right"...
Supposedly the VTOMAN Jump 1000 is a "knockoff...."
It has no name on front, and buttons are black,... not yellow..... Please explain to your viewers....
Thanks
Actually this is 1st gen Jump 1000. They updated the design about 3 months after I did the first video on it.
@@ReeWrayOutdoors Thanks for the clarification 🙂
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This is bull don't buy it I plugged in a 1300 watt cooker into it in my camper and it smoked and died
Sorry to hear that yours died. I've had numerous others comment that their Jump power stations are performing great, so I don't think your experience is typical. And, let's be real here, there's no such thing as a product with a 0% failure rate. Did you reach out to VTOMAN about this? I'd be curious to know how they respond to your issue.
is it better to have 2x 100w solar panels than 1x 200w solar panel as input for a generator that can take 200w input solar panels?
While I want to clarify that I'm not an expert, I have conducted some research on the topic. In terms of basic charging capability, both options will suffice, though some report that a 200-watt panel *might* provide slightly more energy. However, each has its advantages, as is often the case with life's choices. If you're planning a permanent installation, a single 200-watt panel will be considerably larger than a 100-watt panel, which may not be an issue for you. On the other hand, having two panels could provide a slight advantage if you intend to use them as portable power sources. In the event that one panel gets shaded while the other doesn't, you would still receive some power input.