Mariah Carey & Shanice Wilson debut at the Apollo Theater

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  • Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
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    The Apollo Theater is one of Black Music most historic venue to host some of the most talented and respected R&B/Soul/Jazz singers ever to grace the hearts of millions worldwide. Apollo is also known for having the toughest (hard to please) audience, however they were under the spell of these two talented vocalists. This video showcases the debut of both Mariah Carey and Shanice Wilson; performing music from their first released album.
    Famous Apollo Stars:
    Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, James Brown & The Famous Flames, Diana Ross & The Supremes, The Miracles, Gladys Knight & the Pips, The Jackson 5, Patti LaBelle, Marvin Gaye, Luther Vandross, Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, Ben E. King, Mariah Carey, The Isley Brothers, Lauryn Hill, Sarah Vaughan, Jazmine Sullivan, Ne-Yo, and Machine Gun Kelly

Комментарии • 259

  • @jamiebaxter7965
    @jamiebaxter7965 Год назад +13

    Shanice was and is always a beautiful singer/performer. Too bad she's never gotten the respect she deserves from the industry.

  • @Calvin375
    @Calvin375 5 лет назад +21

    Shanice like Patti Labelle, Melba Moore, Ledisi and Rachelle Ferrell is a master of the 6th octave. She is so good that her voice just glides into the 7th octave.

    • @jayray652
      @jayray652 5 лет назад +6

      That's a lie🤣🤣🤣 she has 4 octaves

    • @careysfever
      @careysfever 3 года назад +8

      @@jayray652 you don't understand. They are stating her voice can easily reach the 7th octave, they weren't on the topic of how many octaves she could sing

    • @TheRandomDolphins
      @TheRandomDolphins Год назад

      I totally agreed.

  • @bobbiejeansmith6407
    @bobbiejeansmith6407 4 года назад +17

    Shanice is fantastic. She is a superstar Mariah is too. They are brilliant both. Beautiful voices. They can sannng sang. Their vocals are too much they both hit those high notes so beautifully. Beautiful woman. Shanice was fourteen here her vocal range is just as high as Mariah who was twenty here you see age don't matter the young ones can hang Mariah met her match. To me they are EQUAL NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS
    LUV THEM BOTH MUCH. GOD BLESS ❤💗👍✌🙏🎚❤❤🙏

  • @mdruben
    @mdruben Год назад +9

    I never thought this was a battle but a display of talent.

  • @keiteldelorean507
    @keiteldelorean507 4 года назад +19

    shanice has voice baby always has she is under rated for real one of the best voices in entertainment one of the most lovely smart sincere people in the music biz

  • @Queenalika85
    @Queenalika85 7 лет назад +36

    This the mariah that I loved

  • @leroyjnr21
    @leroyjnr21 6 лет назад +12

    And the winner is...........both. Amazing performance from both vocal powerhouses.

  • @CyprusHot
    @CyprusHot 9 лет назад +37

    Mariah Carey is simply amazing.

  • @MysticStranger
    @MysticStranger 4 года назад +27

    Damn! Shanice has so much depth in her singing!

    • @lorensiawynkwardt2581
      @lorensiawynkwardt2581 4 года назад +5

      Yassss

    • @patrickboulware7159
      @patrickboulware7159 3 года назад +4

      AGREE Totally!!

    • @itsnoahonfire
      @itsnoahonfire Год назад +1

      I agree the colors and textures of her voice are perfectly layered. She reminds me of CeCe Winans when she sings in her deeper register, but she can also sing a lot higher than Cece.

  • @stephaniedixon5280
    @stephaniedixon5280 8 лет назад +31

    my goodness Shanice, that descending note change at the end tho!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @chefaaron9040
    @chefaaron9040 6 лет назад +61

    Shanice is a voical beast point blank period

    • @ertfgghhhh
      @ertfgghhhh 3 года назад +4

      Could sing mariah under the table

    • @sanchezmcfollins
      @sanchezmcfollins Год назад +1

      She tried on oh holy night... That didn't work so well

    • @tylermills4812
      @tylermills4812 Год назад +2

      @@ertfgghhhh ...and then you woke up.

    • @Starcrossedslv
      @Starcrossedslv Год назад

      @@ertfgghhhh lies😂

  • @iamdynez
    @iamdynez Год назад +8

    Shanice is the original Mariah Carey…tone, whisper dynamics, and Whistle notes

    • @cynixie8862
      @cynixie8862 Год назад +1

      Delusional

    • @iamdynez
      @iamdynez Год назад

      @@cynixie8862 ur in denial

    • @cynixie8862
      @cynixie8862 Год назад +2

      @@iamdynez how is she the original if she does not have better belts, lows and agility? Mariah carey is not only about whisper and whistle

    • @iamdynez
      @iamdynez Год назад

      @@cynixie8862 I’m a fan of Mariah as well but I’m also a Shanice fan and the technique was done first by her then elevated when Mariah came on the scene is all I’m saying…check out songs like Silent Prayer, Crying, and Turn Down the lights by Shanice…if you know music you can hear…my comment was never a shot or dig at Mariah just an acknowledgment because people don’t know and Shanice isn’t given the credit for innovation she brought sonically

    • @mchistorian1079
      @mchistorian1079 Год назад

      @@iamdynez Shanice DOESN’T use whistle, she’s uses a “superhead voice”, know the difference. She’s not no original Mariah. 🤦🏾

  • @diamondsareforever1011
    @diamondsareforever1011 5 лет назад +18

    Sing it shanice this is still my favorite song from her I still rock it july 2019💃🏽💃🏽

    • @keiranderson8096
      @keiranderson8096 2 года назад

      i agree. such an underated song. i remember this performance too. she was just 14 and singing with a mr. microphone sounding like that.

  • @mauricerobinsin9311
    @mauricerobinsin9311 3 месяца назад +2

    Shanice is one of those All-time Great Singers that should had been better promoted in her career to legendary status. She as a beautiful voice for the ages.❤

  • @riog8082
    @riog8082 4 года назад +12

    This is when Mariah Carey was one of the best! Her voice was incredible!

  • @naturalnationreadthefinepr4187
    @naturalnationreadthefinepr4187 6 лет назад +16

    I'm a singer that is 36 years old you can be inspired by anyone at any age...

    • @Korouss911
      @Korouss911 3 года назад +1

      Exactly, well said talent has no age.

    • @sincerelyimodel
      @sincerelyimodel 3 года назад +2

      very true Ste'VoNe, i am inspired always by music.

  • @1122monopoly
    @1122monopoly 9 лет назад +15

    There is no doubt about it they are both truly talented artists. To be honest I have never purchased a MC album. I've purchased all of Mrs. Wilson's Albums. Mrs. Wilson was only 14 in this performance...with no background singers...she was absolutely phenomenal!

  • @darabreudelarosa3169
    @darabreudelarosa3169 8 лет назад +16

    Mariah Carey your talent is beyond amazing, a you are a talent girl

  • @thedivasofsupreme6190
    @thedivasofsupreme6190 7 лет назад +46

    I COULD DEFINITELY SAY. thAt MARIAH'S HATERS are the MOST HARDWORKING HATERS in the INDUSTRY. They are OBVIOUSLY,JEALOUS,DESPERATE to bring the threat DOWN, just to put their IRRELEVANT fave Up at least Mariah's FEET.

  • @khoinguyen8091
    @khoinguyen8091 9 лет назад +51

    Mariah Carey has perfect control in her voice back then, from low notes, chest notes to whistle notes. Her voice is like an instrument and that makes her a legend. No professional singers said Shanice can compare to Mariah's level, not to mention better. Mariah Carey is the incomparable, the one and only.

    • @mibende
      @mibende 9 лет назад +10

      Mariah had a great voice, but she lost it. Shanice still has a great voice and even if professional singers never compare them that still doesn't take from Shanice being a phenomenal singer. I think Shanice was more amazing here and not just because she was only 14 years old.

    • @khoinguyen8091
      @khoinguyen8091 9 лет назад +4

      sr to say but i don't hear about Shanice nowadays anymore. yup Mariah has lost her voice a little bit when compared with how great she used to be, and she's still amazing Her talent can't be lost. Moreover, Mariah has contributed a lot to the music industry. Her legacy is huge that Shanice can't touch her bar.

    • @mibende
      @mibende 9 лет назад +5

      Khoi Nguyen Well that's your opinion.

    • @marykacyy6802
      @marykacyy6802 7 лет назад +5

      mibende
      Lmao what that person said is all FACTS OK FACTS NOT An opinion! All her awards she got justify that and
      not to mention all the newer singers saying that she IS the one that inspired them to pursue this career
      and that they learned from hearing her,
      And all the songs she wrote for the singers
      and all the influence she has had on the pop mixing hiphop since she was the First person to do it and successfully
      Which every singer after her followed it
      ALL FACTS SWEETIE
      Idk why you're so butthurt on a person that has done nothing but GREATNESS In the music industry

    • @Calvin375
      @Calvin375 5 лет назад +5

      @@marykacyy6802 Facts: Mariah's voice has deteriorated even more since 4 years ago. She can not even sing in the 7th octave any longer. Mariah was never really an expert in the total 6th octave the way Shanice has mastered and Shanice still sounds the same as she did in her early 20's and she still sings beautifully in the 7th octave without missing a note in the 6th octave as evident today in her latest song called, "He Won't.

  • @LGKids
    @LGKids 7 лет назад +25

    I feel Shanice is a worthy opponent! She can hit the highs and lows and has the soul and pop in her voice! I myself say what a battle! With that being said Shanice is very underrated and on Inner Child interlude she clowned! Mariah kills it too without a doubt! But never sleep on Minnie, Chante, Tanya, and Shanice! Peace!

    • @genevab.howard7860
      @genevab.howard7860 7 лет назад +2

      LGKids Shanice can still sang her ass off. Mariah is done videos of her live performs are horrible

    • @scamila17
      @scamila17 6 лет назад +8

      Horrible live troll?. There is nothing horrible about these LIVE vocals from Mariah on this video. and she can still sing by the way.

    • @austinbarry8978
      @austinbarry8978 5 лет назад +1

      Exactly, I love all of the females who can hit the whistle register notes like Shanice, Chante, Minnie, Mariah.

    • @mikellclark635
      @mikellclark635 3 года назад +2

      @@scamila17 shut up everyone don't have to like Mariah ass

    • @oilalalabla9211
      @oilalalabla9211 3 года назад +1

      @@mikellclark635 he didint say shit about you liking Mariah or not, he stated FACTS

  • @berrysweet2321
    @berrysweet2321 7 месяцев назад +2

    They both have beautiful voices and can both hit the bird voice 🤩

  • @jaquen1977
    @jaquen1977 6 лет назад +13

    I assumed Shanice was a grown woman here. It's hard to believe she was either 13 or 14 in this video, depending on when it was shot. WHAT?!?!

    • @ertfgghhhh
      @ertfgghhhh 3 года назад +1

      Yes child. She was single digits when she came out.
      Btw, this is the mariah i liked. 90-92

  • @Nope1717
    @Nope1717 Год назад +2

    My absolute FAVORITE Shanice Wilson song! And she still has pipes like she had as a teenager!! ❤

  • @nashantastanley3261
    @nashantastanley3261 4 года назад +5

    Ooooo Sharnice sounds like Jean Carne on some notes here!😉👍👍

  • @may8043
    @may8043 7 лет назад +90

    Mariah was 20 and Shanice was 14. Why are people comparing?

    • @duochannel256
      @duochannel256 7 лет назад +12

      Mariah could be 80 and shanice 20 she is still a better performer !

    • @stillwill2215
      @stillwill2215 6 лет назад +3

      GREAT OBSERVATION, DIDN'T KNOW THAT. THAT PUTS IT IN PERSPECTIVE.

    • @scamila17
      @scamila17 6 лет назад +18

      shanice is not more talented.

    • @pamelahargrove301
      @pamelahargrove301 6 лет назад +3

      Duo Channel Ha well listen to Shanice now honey at 2018 and listen to Shanice cough.....

    • @pamelahargrove301
      @pamelahargrove301 6 лет назад +2

      scamila17 please she got better, she can step over these ladies toes in 2018 honey, check her out, lol....m

  • @angiebaby4963
    @angiebaby4963 10 лет назад +29

    What people don't realise is that Shanice was 14 years old in this video!

    • @jayray652
      @jayray652 5 лет назад

      We dont care how old she is or about her!!, shes imitation crab meat, with no originality

    • @MysticStranger
      @MysticStranger 4 года назад +2

      And singing with depth and range beyond her years.

    • @rebeccaspratling2865
      @rebeccaspratling2865 4 года назад

      Amazing! 😍

    • @_kgreen
      @_kgreen 3 года назад +1

      @@jayray652 who did she imitate, that girl has her own sound stop hating

  • @tamiko8590
    @tamiko8590 5 лет назад +12

    In my opinion Shanice took over that!

  • @thesilentdiva
    @thesilentdiva 5 лет назад +15

    Id never seen this Shanice performance, that was sick

    • @BAMOORE94
      @BAMOORE94 3 года назад +2

      At the age of 14 too.. she killed it

    • @s.e.turner8079
      @s.e.turner8079 2 года назад

      This song went hard for me and my big sister ( rip) getting ready for school in 85-87.

  • @keiranderson8096
    @keiranderson8096 Год назад +3

    thats my woman til this day, Shanice

  • @birgandytaylor9277
    @birgandytaylor9277 5 лет назад +5

    I remembered when this originally aired...wow ☺

  • @MosesJD86
    @MosesJD86 Месяц назад +3

    The thing that separates Mariah from Shanice was Tommy Mottola. She had a whole machine behind everything she did. If Shanice has half that, things would've looked different for her

  • @adailydaughter6196
    @adailydaughter6196 3 года назад +6

    love them both. Beautiful and talented ladies with voices that are beautiful even without the frills and riffs and runs ...but excellent at them. God given talent both. Hope they recognize that 🙂

  • @blackbeauty5717
    @blackbeauty5717 4 года назад +5

    amazing vocalists. i love this type of voice. colorful and octaves not nasal voice

  • @mgermain110
    @mgermain110 10 лет назад +10

    Wow,,, SHANICE!!!!!!!! WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

  • @cboogabear
    @cboogabear 4 года назад +8

    O to the M G!! I been looking for this (Shanice) clip for over 20 years!!! I taped it live on my VHS and been looking for it ever since. Thank you!!!

    • @s.e.turner8079
      @s.e.turner8079 4 месяца назад

      That first first shanice cd when she was 14 was popping. Helped
      Me and my sister getting ready for elementary school plenty of days in the late 80s. I’m 47 and my sis is in heaven now.

  • @EDT3270
    @EDT3270 5 лет назад +5

    I don’t know what all the fighting is about. They both sound absolutely amazing to me. We need more talents like that nowadays.
    Or at least people who can sing live in the correct key. At the very least least that should be mandatory of professional singers again...

  • @jokoolmyles4354
    @jokoolmyles4354 5 лет назад +5

    Two of the greatest voices along with Whitney 💕

  • @RedSimba88
    @RedSimba88 11 лет назад +11

    Both a+mazing!

  • @babiphat20
    @babiphat20 10 лет назад +17

    Her voice was good at the beginning of her career/during her first album, but not very strong... You can tell she perfected her voice and sound during the emotions, and music box album. Then her range and tone was undeniable perfection when she put out the Daydream album...and could sing live no problem!!! Butterfly she experimented with r&b...but still had very strong vocals and perfect pitch. Rainbow she had a completely different sound(which I love) ...still had very good range, but used more of a whisper, softer tones. Then on her voice did get a little weaker, but she still has amazing range. She's older of course she's not going to sound as great as she did during her early 20s. I read she was smoking at one point in time..so that definitely had an affect on her voice.but lets not get it twisted. She's still a very talented singer and songwriter... in a league of her own!!

    • @TayTatum
      @TayTatum 5 лет назад +1

      now she sounds awful lol

    • @audreyf9092
      @audreyf9092 5 лет назад +4

      I T She doesn’t tho

    • @TayTatum
      @TayTatum 5 лет назад +1

      @@audreyf9092 she does to me tho

  • @janetman1
    @janetman1 7 лет назад +27

    Shanice is only like 14 or 15 singing like that, I'm sure she inspired Mariah to some degree. Shanice was trained by Seth Riggs he trained all the Stars in the 80's like Michael, Janet, Prince and Whitney before all the auto-tunes and studio tricks they all know how to sing and hit amazing notes. Mariah came after all of them so she is not better but she's the best at constantly hitting that whistle note but I feel Shanice's voice is much stronger and soulful than Mariah's. Shanice didn't need any help at all she can floor you acapella with no back up, she just didn't blow up like Mariah but she's every bit just as special as she is. I love them both deeply. Mariah and Shanice both loved Whitney Houston and you can tell they are inspired by her mostly in their vocals. Mariah was lucky enough to duet with her what a blessing. I'm proud to have grown up with all of the best to ever do it. 💯

    • @breal6871
      @breal6871 7 лет назад +1

      janetman1 she looks at least 40 in the video

    • @naturalnationreadthefinepr4187
      @naturalnationreadthefinepr4187 6 лет назад

      janetman1 mariah came out before shanice

    • @joelprice6028
      @joelprice6028 5 лет назад +2

      Ste'VoNe LaMaR Mariah debuted in 1990. Shanice debuted and had albums already in the 80’s

    • @jasoncolbert6114
      @jasoncolbert6114 5 лет назад +3

      Joel Price Mariah is still older. Mariah was 17 singing as a background singer when shanice did this

    • @austinbarry8978
      @austinbarry8978 5 лет назад +1

      Janetman1 I would not at all say that Shanice has a more soulful voice than Mariah. Just because Mariah came after them it does not mean that she is not better than they are. I love Shanice but Mariah definitely has a better voice in my opinion.

  • @Costikeke
    @Costikeke Год назад +3

    here for shanice

  • @klove7365
    @klove7365 6 лет назад +4

    damn i wanna b young again

  • @Saysonow
    @Saysonow 11 лет назад +6

    Mariah is a good singer, especially back then in the 90s her voice was a big challenge, but Shanice is singing a more difficult song and her expression of the lyrics is more emotive than how Mariah has done hers. Shanice tops this one.

  • @johnmichaelvalladolid8543
    @johnmichaelvalladolid8543 4 года назад +2

    For me mariah carey is a good and the best singer hehe coz she's my idol , but actually they are both legendary singer 💖😍

  • @alex.varfig
    @alex.varfig 2 года назад +2

    Mariah is Mariah! ❤️

  • @jayray652
    @jayray652 5 лет назад +3

    Mariah Carey was extremely nervous at this age to perform you can tell by this performance as she stated hince the reason she didnt ypur her first 2 albumd, but check out her performances a few years later when she gets more comfortable! No one compares, Period, and cares if shanice was 14 or 10 she could sing but her tone wasn't invoking.

  • @tylermills4812
    @tylermills4812 Год назад +2

    Both were amazing, but Mariah's voice is simply phenomenal beyond belief.

  • @Stephanie_b119
    @Stephanie_b119 Год назад +3

    Just Game Yessssss 🔥😘😘😘

  • @BAMOORE94
    @BAMOORE94 3 года назад +3

    Why are people comparing a 13-14 year old to a 20 year old? We know both are amazing vocally now but of course Mariah had better vocals at the time. And Shanice is looked at as an underrated gem now because she was never appreciated the way she could’ve and should’ve been

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow 2 года назад

      They are comparing Shanice to Mariah because they can't deny her greatness, and it kills them to see that Shanice, at 14, could deliver a lyrically and technically more difficult song than what Mariah performs here.

  • @s.e.turner8079
    @s.e.turner8079 4 месяца назад +1

    Shanice was the Og 15 year old who can sang

  • @Rj-ov7zd
    @Rj-ov7zd 4 года назад +3

    she sure can't sing like this anymore but Shanice so underrated

  • @raelove4268
    @raelove4268 5 лет назад +8

    1:27 and again at 5:02 Shanice, ur welcome

  • @00000000647
    @00000000647 7 лет назад +4

    이 영상보니까 나도 가수되고 싶다^^ 둘다 너무 잘하니까 부럽다.

  • @thesilentdiva
    @thesilentdiva 5 лет назад +3

    Plz stop with the Mariah comparisons, Shanice held her own and wasn't even of age here and tore it down like she had been thru some shit like she was in her 40s. I judge by soul and heart, not technical crap

    • @stevewoodson4635
      @stevewoodson4635 3 года назад

      Let not get computer
      Geek out of the
      Technical support engineer calling

  • @macksammo4552
    @macksammo4552 9 лет назад +5

    Shanice win this one right here.Even though Mariah had a better career. Tommy made sure of that.So dont give me that career shit. We're talking about voice only. Shanice is 14 in this video,Mariah is 20 plus.Don't be dumb.A little girl vs a grown lady and people bring up her career. Mariah was'nt singing in 87,so sit down with that.

  • @georgeking4730
    @georgeking4730 5 лет назад

    TWO OF MY FAV.....

  • @joelgarcia3907
    @joelgarcia3907 2 года назад +1

    Vision of love was Mariah’s true debit there

  • @mariahisthe1
    @mariahisthe1 9 лет назад +18

    Mariah's voice is so much more amazing.

  • @RP.123
    @RP.123 7 лет назад +42

    Shanice is waaay too young here to be dressed like Pati LaBelle

    • @jetit
      @jetit 5 лет назад +1

      Not patti early janet

    • @Calvin375
      @Calvin375 5 лет назад

      Just when do you think Shanice started and how old do you think she is now?

    • @ikexbankai
      @ikexbankai 4 года назад

      jetit that’s why she never got bigger like should have because from the very beginning the record company and producers were copying too much of Janet

    • @eugeniaboone5602
      @eugeniaboone5602 4 года назад

      How is she suppose to dress?? Wear a tight spandex dress , lowcut showing her breasts at 14?????Very tacky and not professional. She looks classy and modest.

    • @ertfgghhhh
      @ertfgghhhh 3 года назад

      This is fly dressing back then. I was 16 and dressed like that

  • @Sttephy30
    @Sttephy30 4 года назад +2

    I thought Mariah's debut performance here was VISION OF LOVE?

    • @iriear
      @iriear  4 года назад

      Yes, you are correct. 'Vision of Love' was Mariah's first song and '(Baby Tell Me) Can You Dance' was Shanice's, so I used "debut" to speak to their appearance as I wanted to use their ballads and not their uptempo as both ballads deal with heartbreak.

  • @eyze7
    @eyze7 3 года назад +1

    I was thinking it was the two of them singing together

  • @TheArwen06
    @TheArwen06 3 года назад +4

    the tone sets mariah apart... not just from shanice, but from anyone else. only mariah combines power with sweet gentleness, strength with vulnarability, and the uncanny ability to use her vocal extentsions with so much restraint. shanice sounded like another black back up singer. she does not have musical sense in using her whistle register that it becomes anoying after just a little time. her career ended when mariah entered the scene.

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow 3 года назад +2

      It is not Shanice's fault that she has a better voice and singing technique than Mariah. So for you to come here with your *blatant RACISM* speaks to your insecurity. I know all of Mariah's and Shanice's music so I can fairly say that Shanice is far superior to Mariah. If Mariah's tone was so marketable, Tommy Mottola would not need to spend millions to push her to the Top. Not to mention the underhanding activities like payola and reducing her single/album price to push her sales. So unlike Mariah who was sleeping with her boss, Shanice secured her record deals and her hits based on her actual singing talent. *So don't confuse fame with talent.* Also, Black singers are the blueprint of great singing. So you fall flat on your face trying to relegate black people to background singing. If you knew anything about music, you would know that one has to have a good music ear AND the ability to harmonize to be a successful backing vocalist. Also, it was Mariah and not Shanice who started out as a backup singer. Had she stayed in her lane, her voice would still be intact.

    • @TheArwen06
      @TheArwen06 3 года назад +1

      @@Saysonowwhenever someone loses an argument, they cry “racism”. whenever someone does not get what they want, they cry “discrimination”. well its your problem. mariah a much better singer that shanice, and sounds 100 times better and more pleasant than shanice. its the truth. that is why people of this generation will not remember anything shanice did in her time. like who the hell is she? if she is truly better than mariah, why was her voice so forgettable that people nowadays cant remember a single song from her and say “oh that is shanice”? pls never compare her ugly ogre voice to mariah’s regal voice. all your comments about mariah’s career had beed debunked so many times. after 19 #1 hits and 200 million records sold, it has been proven that mariah is not your one trick pony. she is the only artist from her era that is still releveant up until today. shanice is just one of those artist whose career got killed by mariah.

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow 3 года назад +1

      @@TheArwen06 I have had over a hundred debates with Mariah fanatics and I can count on one hand the times I had a need to point out someone's RACISM. I am happy to debate anyone on technicalities because the facts fall on my side. But you dared to say, "Shanice sounded like another black back up singer." If you don't see the racism, then that's because you have become too comfortable in it. If you claimed Mariah ended Shanice's career in the 90s, but here we are 20+ years later talking about her, then that goes to show how profound her talent is. Keep on hating, if that's what you need to convince yourself that Mariah is the better singer.

    • @TheArwen06
      @TheArwen06 3 года назад

      @@Saysonow oh you see the word “black” and then you cry “racism”. what is racist about that? arent there so many black back up singers? you completely missed my point cuz ur too narrow to think outside the imaginary confines of racism. you invoke racism in every thing that goes against your beliefs. well guess what, you will always see what your eyes want to see, and yet cry harder because it does not conform to reality. there is nothing special is shanice’s voice: the belts sound forced and unpleasant due to her elevated larynx when she sings.

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow 3 года назад +1

      @@TheArwen06 It is not about the word, *it has everything to do with the context.* And you are not the first one to relegate black voices to a monolith to make it out as if all black singers sound the same or belong in the background. All my time of reading comments, I have never come across someone making the point that a white singer sounds like white backup singers. Therefore, your characterization is no different from a racist trying to say all black people look the same. But, as I said, black people are the blueprint of great singing.
      You can use all the adjectives you want to convince yourself that Mariah is the best and Shanice is the worst, but it is *all in your mind.* If Shanice was straining, her voice would be as blown-out as Mariah. So try and make a point when you can point me to a Mariah song as serene as 'Do I Know You,' as velvety as 'Summer Love' or as sweet as 'Forever Like A Rose.' Shanice does not need to use the false cord effect to sing softly like Mariah who ends up sounding airy, which dries out her voice hence the reason she ends up suffering vocal fatigue after 25 minutes of performing. Also, Shanice was trained by the best and still has no nodules, which are the result of poor singing.

  • @Poetic_Justice1962
    @Poetic_Justice1962 11 лет назад +3

    I find Mariah very credible through most of her 23-year-long career, actually.

  • @perlachiqui3093
    @perlachiqui3093 6 лет назад +3

    i dont believe shanice was 14....seemed like 18 or 20

    • @Calvin375
      @Calvin375 5 лет назад

      She was 15 yrs. old when she had her first recording contract with Motown Records in 1988. Shanice is now 46 yrs. old.

  • @215gino4
    @215gino4 5 лет назад +6

    Mariah was so nervous you can hear it

    • @ikexbankai
      @ikexbankai 4 года назад +2

      215 gino Mariah blow up so fast that she had never even performed. She literally had no front stage performance experience while having a number 1 hit and then she had 4 more number ones before even putting in her first proper concert. Which was MTV unplugged

  • @ajbenful
    @ajbenful Год назад +1

    I love Mariah, but Shanice showed up!

  • @gp4824
    @gp4824 4 года назад

    Shanice is my favorite between the two. Whitney was thee voice then Mariah and Shanice tie

  • @alchrisrado6721
    @alchrisrado6721 4 года назад +2

    Mariah's tone and phrasing set her apart from other singers. Shanice sounded good, but too common and plain compared to the colors that exude from Mariah's voice. That is what what makes mariah so much more marketable than shanice. When mariah came out, shanice's career was ended.

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow 3 года назад +1

      What makes Mariah more marketable was Tommy Mottola. Shanice is the superior vocalist and performer.

    • @todaysagoodday1862
      @todaysagoodday1862 3 года назад +1

      @@Saysonow What makes Mariah more marketable is her overall vocal and musical choices. Shanice might take the technique aspect (I get it, Mariah's inconsistent), but her overall musical choices is very bland. Mariah's got a much more musical "ears" and overall, makes much better choices in terms of musicianship; Tommy's got nothing to do with that.

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow 3 года назад +1

      ​@@todaysagoodday1862 I take it you do not know how the music business works. Mariah could have the best voice and most beautiful music, but if she was not properly marketed, she would get nowhere.
      As I have pointed out: Tommy spent a huge budget to promote Mariah, why would he spend millions if it was left to the voice? He also engaged in Payola where the label would pay a radio station to play their artist music and sometimes to not play another. He also reduced the cost of her singles to attract more sales to push her up to the top of the charts. Another factor in Mariah's favor was the fact that, unlike Shanice, she was not burdened with the task of *crossing over.* Therefore, a white audience who loves black music but prefer it in a white body (Elvis Presley, for example) happily looked to Mariah. And mind you, she was first billed as a white artist singing black music.
      If you look at all the top singers, they had a powerful man behind them, even Whitney had Clive Davis. Also, I do not know what you mean by her music choice is very bland. I am certain you do not own one of Shanice's albums.

  • @moseslowery986
    @moseslowery986 8 месяцев назад

    Hello i Moses NJ

  • @dandelionkim3883
    @dandelionkim3883 6 лет назад

    The only reason to win a battle in sells is that u should have a very ear catchy song for audience from the very first beginning the heard ur song. And that kind of thing happened to mariah..

  • @whfan007
    @whfan007 4 года назад +1

    The last note by Shanice was completely off key but otherwise a great performance.

  • @naturalnationreadthefinepr4187
    @naturalnationreadthefinepr4187 6 лет назад +3

    Mariah did inspire shanice if you take the time to stop talking and look it up you will see shanice say it out of her own MOUTH that's the fact based point I'm getting to...

    • @multimanjazzman8203
      @multimanjazzman8203 5 лет назад

      Kumtekmeon Shut up before I fucking whoop your dumb ass

    • @Calvin375
      @Calvin375 5 лет назад +2

      How can Mariah inspire a singer who was a recording artist before her at the age of 14 -15 yrs. old and she was already doing the whistle notes since her true inspiration was Minnie Riperton; not Mariah?

    • @tiana1017
      @tiana1017 4 года назад

      Wack ass comment. Shanice been singing since 8 its on video SO SHE WASN'T INSPIRED BY MARIAH and SHANICE STILL SOUNDS GOOD TIL THIS DAY. CAN'T SAY THE SAME 4 MARIAH

    • @The_Black_Anarchist
      @The_Black_Anarchist 2 года назад

      No she didn't. Shanice's career started before Mariah's career. They were both influenced by Minnie Riperton.

  • @mandeelaw8410
    @mandeelaw8410 6 лет назад +4

    So...fast forward to 2017 Shanice STILL got the pipes. Mariah...not so much. At 14 yrs old, Shanice ran a lap around Mariah. I love mariah but there is absolutely no comparision.
    #facts

    • @db60615
      @db60615 6 лет назад +2

      Mandee Law. She may still have the pipes, but Mariah has the career. Mariah's net worth is over 500 mil, Shanice........not so much. Mariah wins.

    • @mandeelaw8410
      @mandeelaw8410 6 лет назад +1

      db60615 Since we're going there...shanice is happily married and has been for several years. Hasnt had not one public Psychotic breakdown, doesnt acted like a spoiled entitled diva twit. Got a husband that loves and cherishes her and stands by her side. Honey...shanice wins by a landslide. Money is just that. It does not produce a stable life ir happiness. And for the record shanice still has the pipes and a much far better life overall.

    • @scamila17
      @scamila17 6 лет назад +1

      Mariah can still sing. And she has sang with nodules since she started her career as a profesional singer in 1985. I wonder how would shanice sound after 33 years singing with nodules. No shade just facts. Mariah is happy and well established a worldwide singing legend that inspired 3 generations of singers and counting. And shanice did not dominate Mariah here. Nice try at trolling Mariah though.

    • @Calvin375
      @Calvin375 5 лет назад

      @@scamila17That nodules story is old and tired and it's a fallacy. Mariah just never had proper vocal training nor does she take care of her voice to this very day. She can not even sing in the whistle register any longer, much less, in her natural chest voice. It is all but gone because of her misuse of her instrument due to her excessive smoking, recreational drug use and drinking. It's well know n all over the music industry. The fact remains, Shanice does not have nodules because she knew how to take care if her instrument through proper vocal training, exercising the muscle in the diaphragm, having a well balanced diet and lots of rest. You can not achieve vocal excellence with partying , smoking and making excuses.

    • @scamila17
      @scamila17 5 лет назад

      @@Calvin375 False. It is a fact that she has nodules since a young age. And she can still whistle and belt. Sure she is not on the same level she was before. But she can still sing. And talking about vocal excelence. Mariah's name is forever included in the music history book as one of the greatest voices in music history. So that's on that.

  • @Greenterror
    @Greenterror 8 лет назад

    👂🏾 omg Beyonce was amazing, those vocals wow!!

  • @marcusrob02
    @marcusrob02 8 лет назад +2

    Mariah may have sold the more records and attained "record-breaking" success (mainly due to the hype machine Tommy Mattola instituted in the very beginning), but Shanice was by far the superior vocalist, hands down. Mariah relied on a lot of theatrics, tricks, and mannerisms to come off as this gigantic "vocal beast" but Shanice had the soul, passion, and natural presence and ability to effortlessly BLOW (without the need of a ton of back-up singers). THAT's pure talent, and not something easily manipulated/bought with millions of dollars.
    Shanice OWNS Mariah, vocally. #FACT.

    • @Ter-el
      @Ter-el 8 лет назад +12

      Girl hush you don't believe that yourself

    • @thedivasofsupreme6190
      @thedivasofsupreme6190 7 лет назад +1

      A Coomment of A Desperate HATER. LMAO

    • @ricque9459
      @ricque9459 3 года назад

      Did Shanice pick you yet?

  • @mjparadero7046
    @mjparadero7046 3 года назад

    She’s so thin back then wowww

  • @mangacie
    @mangacie 5 лет назад +1

    Shanice you did too much of Vibrato.
    It seems like she is singing on Winter season. lol

    • @mangacie
      @mangacie 5 лет назад

      Kumtekmeon Mariah didn't hit too much Vibrato, she combined it with adlibs meanwhile Shanice hit vibrato in every her last sentence/parts.
      Don't be a blind and delusional fan.

  • @ArghRawrWhoa
    @ArghRawrWhoa 3 года назад

    Hmmm

  • @tiana1017
    @tiana1017 4 года назад

    Whats the name of that song Shanice singing?

    • @iriear
      @iriear  3 года назад +1

      Titled: 'Just A Game' from her debut album Discovery. ruclips.net/video/acQ3N9V-5zY/видео.html

  • @jmoneyvocals1650
    @jmoneyvocals1650 7 лет назад +3

    shanice's technique is ok but mariah's technique nd vocals r whimsical

  • @theclient2k
    @theclient2k 3 года назад

    Shanice was 14. Mariah was at least 20 maybe older. They are not the same.

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow 2 года назад

      You got that right! Shanice is vocally superior.

    • @tylermills4812
      @tylermills4812 Год назад

      @@Saysonow lol she isn't

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow Год назад

      @@tylermills4812 I do not know what you qualify vocally as 'superior' but it can't extend beyond someone who has remained in a comfort zone her entire career. In that case, your understanding of superior is faulty. Popularity and record sales do not make you superior.

    • @tylermills4812
      @tylermills4812 Год назад

      @@Saysonow I'm not talking about popularity or record sales. I speak strictly in terms of VOICE and VOCAL ABILITY alone, and Shanice is nowhere near "vocally superior" to Mariah and that's fact.

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow Год назад

      @@tylermills4812 Okay, so you are happy to talk about voice and vocal ability. Well, when it comes on to voice, to some extent, that is subjective. I am certain there are people who prefer Madonna's voice to Mariah's. So let's look at technicalities: Mariah's voice has a distinct timbre that restricts its flexibility. Shanice's voice is adaptable to most genres. Shanice has a naturally prettier tone. Mariah sings inwardly and breathy to make her tone beautiful but overtime that has now damaged the overall quality of her voice. To say Shanice is nowhere near vocally superior to Mariah is a joke because Mariah does not have a musical history as rich and diverse as Shanice. In fact, I would not even count Mariah as a real singer in the lane of Diana Ross, Aretha Franklin, Whitney Houston, Celine Dion, Deniece Williams, Chaka Khan...These vocalists had to work their way to the top of their careers. Mariah was the first manufactured singer. She was curated in the studio. Her rise was not based on she going on the road to build a fanbase, it was bought and paid for by Tommy Mottola who spent millions to make sure her singles topped the charts. Her vocal limitations show in how she can only perform in a controlled setting. We all know Mariah quiets down when she is on stage with other singers and that's because she knows she is dependent on a safe space i.e. her own rehearsed music with her own band and backing singers. Great singing is not just about a beautiful voice, it is about being able to preserve your voice. A real singer is able to work in various settings. For example, between November and December, Shanice performed her music at the RnB Unwind concert, a few weeks later, she was performing newly learnt songs in a theater production, and then in December, she was performing with the Gay Men's Chorus LA for their Xmas show. That is an example of a real , talented singer.

  • @Tourmaline85
    @Tourmaline85 6 лет назад +2

    Mariah cheating with church choir for background singers.

  • @Starcrossedslv
    @Starcrossedslv Год назад

    Y’all can debate all you want but who has more awards😂? Who’s still relevant ? Who’s the top female vocalist of her time? Mariah. Anyways

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow Год назад +1

      Real music lovers don't care about awards and number ones. Shanice is still relevant, still booking shows and still doing what she loves to do. The debate here is about vocalizing and not accolades.

  • @franciscoplumey8785
    @franciscoplumey8785 6 лет назад

    Only one name MARIAH

  • @naturalnationreadthefinepr4187
    @naturalnationreadthefinepr4187 6 лет назад +1

    Lookup shanice talking about mariah Mariah inspired shanice not the other way around

    • @tiana1017
      @tiana1017 4 года назад +1

      Dumb Shanice been singing since 8 way b4 Mariah was even heard of LMAOOO

    • @naturalnationreadthefinepr4187
      @naturalnationreadthefinepr4187 4 года назад

      who gives a f*** it's plenty of singers that have been doing s*** before others and they still were inspired by singers that came so called after them so you make no sense good day.

  • @gerembetegeffy1530
    @gerembetegeffy1530 11 лет назад +2

    Mariah is the best...sorry to say...

  • @TS_HorusFx
    @TS_HorusFx 8 лет назад +4

    Kumtekmeon is so hilarious!
    Mariah>Shanice and the entire music industry and people who have done proper studies on vocal pedagogy knows that. You're just blinded by your hate towards Mariah and you try to shit talk her to bring up your fav singer.. hilarious!

    • @TS_HorusFx
      @TS_HorusFx 8 лет назад

      ***** That's the opinion of another person, just like yours.
      Many other people have pointed out how great Mariah's vocal repertoire is, eg. Monsterrat Caballe, comparing her to Ingeborg Halestein.
      But yeah I'm not gonna argue with some person who's obsessed with Mariah and tries to preach "gospel" and degrade her. Get a life Kumtekmeon, not everyone is gonna agree with your OPINION.

    • @TS_HorusFx
      @TS_HorusFx 8 лет назад

      ***** Lol okay.. It must be lonely in your world.
      You should really learn the difference between a fact and an opinion.

    • @TS_HorusFx
      @TS_HorusFx 8 лет назад

      Lol okay :v

    • @TS_HorusFx
      @TS_HorusFx 8 лет назад

      ***** lol okay

    • @TS_HorusFx
      @TS_HorusFx 8 лет назад

      Lol okay :v
      I've seen people like you in court already.. Hilarious.

  • @ChefDurosola
    @ChefDurosola 11 лет назад +3

    Yes she's a veteran but just because you're out longer, doesn't make you better. I love both of them, but while Shanice is the better performer, Mariah is clearly the better singer. Why do you think when singing shows talk about great female singers, its always Mariah, Whitney, and Celine? Mariah is a LEGEND. Tommy didn't have to overspend. Mariah can sing the phonebook and it'll instantly sell millions.

  • @ChefDurosola
    @ChefDurosola 11 лет назад +2

    Please. Shanice is a great singer but she will NEVER hold a candle to the LEGENDARY Mariah Carey! Remember that. No one is being racist as BOTH of them are Black, it's just the truth.

    • @tiana1017
      @tiana1017 4 года назад

      STFU

    • @The_Black_Anarchist
      @The_Black_Anarchist 2 года назад

      Mariah is not even half black. Her black side is mixed.

    • @ChefDurosola
      @ChefDurosola 2 года назад

      @@The_Black_Anarchist You're clearly an idiot and super dense. First of all, learn how to read. When did I ever say she was half black? Second, you can claim to be Black if one of your previous generations were Black. In Mariah's case, her paternal grandmother was completely Black. I'm going to need you to do your research before you"attempt" to clap back on the internet, much less RUclips. This just goes to show how uneducated you truly are. Shut the fuck up and stay in your lane.

    • @The_Black_Anarchist
      @The_Black_Anarchist 2 года назад +1

      @@ChefDurosola You said that both of them were black dummy. That means you were claiming that Mariah is black despite the fact that she isn't even half black. You clearly aren't smart enough to understand what you wrote.

    • @ChefDurosola
      @ChefDurosola 2 года назад

      @@The_Black_Anarchist As much as I hate it, the "one drop rule" still apples in America. Mariah is 25% Black and so she qualifies as Black. Once again, it's clear to me that you don't have the fundamental skills, nor the intelligence to piece together and comprehend what I said. And while I would love to explain to you how the world really works, I don't have the time, and you wouldn't understand.

  • @bufordt.justice6741
    @bufordt.justice6741 2 года назад +1

    shanice without a doubt is pitchy in many of her high notes and her tone does not have the quality that mariah has. truthfully her tone is not of high quality. tone wise she's not on the leval of whitney, ella fitgerald, or mariah. on the other hand mariah has superior tone, better technique, and she hits that high note but pitch is off at the beginning for a split second then she gets right on track and slays. being totally truthful and fair, all in all mariah destroyed shanice.

    • @Saysonow
      @Saysonow 2 года назад

      Laughing out loudly. Boy, go take that ridiculous comment to the dumpster where it belongs because it has *desperate* written all over it. Does Mariah have a nice voice and tone? Yes. But Shanice has a more beautiful voice that can complement any style or other singers. If Narada M Walden can identify Shanice as one of the greatest voices, I don't see why anyone should give a damn about a pathetic insecure lamb's rant. You are clearly hurt to see Shanice, at age 14, outdoing Mariah at circa age 22 by skillfully delivering a more lyrically mature and technically difficult song than Mariah's standard R&B/Pop. So that pitch issue you pointed to is what Mariah Carey told, 'Baby, it's all in your mind.' Hating Shanice won't repair Mariah's damaged voice.

    • @The_Black_Anarchist
      @The_Black_Anarchist 2 года назад +2

      She was a child in this video dummy. She has more power than Mariah.