The 2024 EV9 ain’t a Kia. It’s an unexpected luxury car.
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- Опубликовано: 1 дек 2024
- MotoMan drives the most expensive @kia ever: The all-new Kia EV9 GT Line. He learns that it is stellar, kind of like the last ‘most expensive Kia’ was, the Kia Stinger GT, but unlike that one where he got the prediction of how the market will react to that Kia wrong, he may have a very different view of the near future of what the 2024 Kia EV9 really is . . . a luxury car.
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I'd rather get bench seating than power seats on the 2nd row. There should always be an option for 7 or 8 seats on upper trims for SUVs. $80K is way too expensive for just 6 seats.
Totally agree. The bench seat is so much more practical. If I’m buying a three-row SUV, I need the option to haul 7 people
Lexus LX600 Ultra Luxury says bonjourno (full size SUV with 4 seats).
love mine (iceberg green land AWD)
In the UK around 60% of new vehicles are fleet/lease. Companies can get a huge tax write off for buying electric vehicles ergo the manufacturers make expensive EVs because they make more profit and the buyers get a tax write off.
The biggest threat for the EV9 sits alongside it in the same dealership room, the Telluride. You'd really really, like really want an EV to choose it over the T.
Not for me this big truck. I collect Hyundai dealers stock. Walked around one GT Line black showroom. Oh my gosh. It’s downright amazing. Amazing work Kia. Amazing. It’s a stunner. Too big. Far far too big for UK but this is one hell of a car.
Good review. 👍
There's only a large gap between the top Telluride and the top EV9 because the American market pretty much abandoned the 50-70k large sedan market, which is how the much the K900 went for. They also have the Mohave (Borrego) in that price range, which also isn't sold here.
That said, Kia seems pleased with early sales, so we'll see. They beat Volvo to market and Hyundai will be debuting the Ioniq 7 this year too, so this space will get crowded quickly
10:22 "not a lot of leg room?" What other EV or EV SUV even has reclining 2nd row seats with a foot rest? 🤔
Check out the Chinese EVs
For the price this should have been badged as a Genesis from the start. I'd expect that it's going to be a hard sell because of the Kia badge in front.
The Genesis version will have a much nicer interior.
It could be $50k but I will never be convinced to have to deal with the horrible KIA dealers again.
All car dealers are much money grab schemes.
Crazy that this is considered heavy. I had a 2004 Buick Park Ave Ultra in mint condition stock curb weight of 5200lbs LOL
Ya gotta give us those volumes in Litres (at a min show on screen). I’m sure your UK viewers would appreciate. Thank you.
When Kia removed the LIDAR, the MSRP should’ve dropped by 3K across the board. I wouldn’t pay for additional light signatures, but I could possibly be enticed in making the purchase in the first place if they threw those in as a bonus. 😉 15:35
3 grand seems like a lot to ask. And I doubt we're talking 3 grand of cost to Kia. As for the digital stuff, I think it's hit or miss. I absolutely do not understand why someone not 22 years old would pay for the lighting patterns. But being able to "turbo" your car seems neat.
You touched on what I was thinking in regards to Rivian, do you think that Genesis will have a EV80 of sorts to compete with the Rivian @Motomantv
Yes, the GV90 EV, based on the Hyundai ioniq 7/9, and this kia EV9. Basically different interiors, some differentiating features- emotor and suspension tuning.
My boy moved the front seat up 1 foot to let his reclining back seat back lol
As long as there are gas stations on every corner........I'll pass on EV's. When gas stations go the way of the dinosaur I'll be dead anyway.
80,000..... they can keep it. lol
Great episode, beautiful color I wouldn't mind the extra 600 for the color but not qualified for the 7500 tax break sucks.
It will be once production starts in Georgia Plant.
Any chance going forward, can you do sq ft area for storage?
78K is alot of money but it's beautiful. Way to go Kia!🎉
Suspension should be more floaty and more tire between rim and the road. A lot of money for not much. ICE is just so much cheaper still. I check back when solid electrolyte batteries come. Preferably from Toyota.
If you’re looking for cheap, Na-Ion or LFP is what you want, not solid-state lithium batteries. Those are not going to be affordable.
@@Likealot77 big EVs don't need to be cheap. Just closer to what ICE offers in performance and cost.
So, I can buy a KIA for $78.000 or a BMW or Mercedes? No way no how!!! Great show, this really makes you think about value and cost!!!
I bought a Mercedes GLS 450 in 2017 for 82k out the door. It has 55k miles on it and last week, the Lexus dealership offered me 20k as a trade in for the TX. I may not buy this EV9 but I know one thing for sure, there will never be another Mercedes in my driveway
@@golfdave-l4p
Their resale value has always plummeted like a boulder off a skyscraper. In October of 2019 before all this mess started, I looked at a 2015 S63 coupe with 22,000 miles. It was being retailed for $74,000. That was a $230,000 car new... So if it was being retailed at that price, imagine what was given for it on a trade..
Car prices are insane! No car is worth $78000!
What BMW or Mercedes EVs are similar in size and features and costs $78k? None, lol. I’ve owned 5 German luxury ICE vehicles in the past 15 years, all disposable unreliable expensive junk and endless money pit. I had a BMW X5 that I paid $72k in 2013, inflation adjusted more like $90k. It was the biggest car buying mistake i’ve ever made. Endless repairs and 3 recalls. Sold it after 25k miles. Because I had all the problems after 3 years, warranty didn’t cover it. I rather take a chance on this Kia over any German EVs or ICE cars.
But Kia's are available with nice discounts, under msrp. I prefer the Rivian based on looks, and some features, but will be much more expensive to purchase, and more challenging to service.
Looks like a tuff sale.
I'd rather have a $50k Stinger GT!!!!!!!
I think EVs make great city cars. But something of the size of this would be more suited for family road trips, and for that, ICE is still the better choice.
People got wide eyed and surprised look on their face when they said a $40,000 Tesla was too expensive for an EV…now, everyone views Tesla as the affordable option. Incredible…once the stealerships get their hands in the markups, good luck getting this KIA for less than $85-90,000! Not paying that much for a Korean vehicle, let alone any vehicle.
It does such a disservice tot he the EVs when talking price not to talk TCO/total cost of ownership. 12k miles per year,, Telluride say $1800 for gas and another $150 for oil changes. The EV9 Charging at home at $0.16 per kwh and say 2.8 miles per kwh = $685. So this is an easy $1k per year savings.
Good review of a very good vehicle IMO!
insurance?
Hi Greg . . . Always appreciate your well thought out responses. Here you bring up a very good point. Yes, the just the cost of energy living in a place like Colorado where energy could be that cheap, sure an advantage. However, total cost of ownership would require factoring the cost of the vehicle - including depreciation - insurance, etc.. You would also need to take into account the cost of energy in places like California and New York - where the majority of these will be sold - energy is nowhere near US$0.16/kWh. It's more than double in places like LA. Even if you take the numbers you are using, once you bring in the cost of the vehicle, one would have to drive more than 100,000 miles per year for MANY years to make up that difference with the EV.
@@MotoManTV Quality response. Thanks.
@@MotoManTV Thanks, I like your coverage. Yes, it takes time to pay it back but that does not make it insignificant and my numbers were very conservative. Price in MN is $0.13 per hour.
Eighty g where are the used Tahoes and or Escalades?
One would need to be on some kind of Ozempic and wine fueled cocktail to stomach spending $80k+ on an EV. But to spend that much on a Kia EV takes some additional brain damage or harder drug on top of that even.
Have to admit, that is quite a colorful description:)
Hey mr-fix, i have "simple" request.
Can you show us and point with your finger where is the horn fuse for Renault Megane 3 1.5 DCI (2015MY).
I will be fair and let you know that there is no a single video on YT and even all mighty Google is useless(same as user manual for that car)
I have no problem with electric vehicles. I have a problem with the cost and the infrastructure to charge them. I'm sure there are people that have EVs that will say I don't know what I'm talking about. I've taken road trips and never had a problem blah blah blah. Fair enough. I don't discount that. But I also read frequent stories about people who did have problems. The first charger they stopped at was broken. The second charger they stopped at had seven people waiting before then, etc etc. I can't remember the last time I pulled into a broken gas station. For the time being, I'll stick with internal combustion.
To be fair, the GT-Line is a $65,000 car now.
It should charge better than it does. It is slower than an EV6, and there's no clear reason for that. Cheaper cells? More conservative to avoid warranty issues?
Bigger battery?
Not 5 seconds but 4.5 on this one.
It better come with a Happy ending
Can we just get KIA Telluride GT with Stinger 3.3T engine!?
This would be nice but they need a hybrid engine more than anything. If their next gen doesn't have that it's DOA. I would say Turbo, Turbo Hybrid, and a performance trim being Turbo or NA.
The electric car move is overrated. You want me to pay $80000 for vehicle? They only go three hundred miles before I have to plug it back in... im good... the ionic6 makes the most sense if you get rear wheel drive only .... Other than that, I'm not really impressed with what's coming out as far as electric cars go
Right an $80,000 KIA with a horrible dealer experience. No thanks my Mercedes dealer treats me great.
Amen. Have to shower for a long time after visiting a KIA dealership.
No thanks!
What you don't mention is the nightmare know as the Kia, Hyundai, Genesis (all the same) dealer experience. If you really enjoy being treated like a masochistic moron, then that's the best place to go. And it's unfortunate because the product is above average.
Not a chance in hell I would pay that much for a KIA. They have lost touch with reality.
I would agree with you 10 years ago. A whole different story now. I doubt a former Audi designer would come work for Hyundai/Kia if they didn't start marking quality vehicles. 👍
No thank you.
people's republic of eugene?
They look nice inside and out, but Kia woke up and said we’re gonna be a luxury brand. Let’s see how that works out for you. Same with jeep you guys are not luxury. Sorry.
Please, tell us how you **REALLY** feel about RUclips's algorythm? 😁
commenty!!!!
americans need to drive smaller cars. europeans have no problem packing 5 or 6 people into their small sedans plus their gear. plus, sedans ride much better than suv's.
Car looks nice.. but I wouldn't say that the styling looks futuristic.. it looks like a normal car with futuristic headlights lol
A Kia that will lose 60% of its value in the first two years.
$78K for a Kia means the world has officially gone insane.
True. In a couple of years, the vehicle will only be worth $29,000.
People paying $20k extra just for the ev powertrain is crazy. Negates any gas savings. Just get the Telluride.
Honestly, car prices in general are CRAZY! We have to start rebelling by not spending our hard earned money on these expensive vehicles. Until then, we are going to keep seeing car prices rise, year over year.
One hell of a chunk of car. Though. And oh so nicely built!!!!
@@corpnupe85and that’s very True too. About 40% odd.
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It’s crazy to me that anyone would pay more than $15,000 for Kia.
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Nobody buy ev 9 in Korea. KIA start giving 20%, 30% off now. Around $50.000 in Korean now.
Appreciate the real world feedback!
Two reasons it will not sell.
1. Battery, satans inferno.
2. $80k
80K Kia just to be stolen by some brokie urban thug.
like taking whole land masses hey?
Probably the ugliest vehicle I have ever seen! I would get a Telluride or Palisades over this overpriced EV!!!
It's actually not overpriced for what you're getting. But i do agree. The Telluride looks awesome. Way better design. 👍
The world hasn't gone insane if you can't afford one don't worry about it 🙄😂