For everyone who is confused: - Xianyun’s elemental skill damage plunge is count as plunge damage - her elemental skill plunge scaling is based on lvling up her elemental skill, not NA lvl - weirdly, she benefits from Shimenawa 4set, and Golden Troupe 2set with Kagura’s Variety weapon passive
@@beachbaal9060plunge dmg but it scales on her skill. Leveling her normal does nothing for her skill’s plunge, as the multiplier is independent. Just like how Raiden’s normals in her burst are considered burst damage, so leveling her normal attack won’t change that damage in the slightest.
@@SoYuukki you have to upgrade the skill so she can do more damage by herself, but since it's considered plunge damage, every weapon or artefact passive boosting skill damage won't have any effect (like Kagura's Verity or Golden Troupe)
@@Bruhitzcamm Thats true, but saying its useless is kind of a stretch especially since furina is a really good pair with her so they're often together, thats all.
I wanted to add that i feel her best set is the desert pavilion set. Boosts plunging attack damage by 40% for 20 seconds after a charge attack hits and gives anemo damage. Even if my sub optimal ceit damage im hitting 145k plus dive kkicks from her skill and faruzan alone.
A faster way to down the Wenut instead of shooting the orbs is applying a PECH aura on the boss then swirling with kazuha or sucrose, the swirl will hit all the orbs and it saves like 3-4 seconds since swirling for VV is part of your rotation and is faster than shooting with your bow
1:30 with her weapon giving 80 percent damage bonus. And her double dipping into base stats with her passive I would assume that atk percent goblet might actually be better than anemo DMG bonus
Albedo has 40% plunge damage boost that's hidden behind constellations. Idk if anyone else liked him enough to pull for constellations, but if you happen to have C4 Albedo, I'd put him on her team too 😅
XIANYUN (C6 R5) is great. She is an SS for me. Why? Those pyro that made themselves invisible, she can detect them. I clear mini bosses only with the use of Barbara and her. I use her to defeat Pyro regisvine, electro regisvine, and so on. Also she can hit flying enemies shes literally a torpedo. Just use her skills and burst skill because normal attacks is kinda weak. The downside is I was having a problem with the Rift hound. Must use Yunjin and the like.
Damn r5 .... but i couldnt do that far. But i did go c6 which is super fun. I know the meta thing is with bennett and furina and faruzan, but i like her daughters replacing the first 2 for a fun family themed team. Im still hitting 145k dives and thats without perfect artifacts(like only have 100% or so crit at base)
On the Wenut/serpent side, I took a Navia/Furina team with Ningguang and Kokomi. Had zero issues with the clear times due to the massive front loaded damage. However, my Furina is c2, so I'm max stacks before I even get to Navia in the rotation. And I found that Furina's summons were knocking down wenut for me, which was nice and convenient. If anyone has Navia and Furina and are struggling with second half as well.
Anemo mommy is total bait dude. Nahida is more useful to your account than Gimmick Retainer. Outside of getting her cus you like her, she only good for Diluc, Razor, Xinyan (surprise) and Xiao (they all have high lvl10 plunge damage) she a good healer if you need that, but you aren’t missing out on her outside of FOMO
i feel that back then i thought i was on ganyus banner (i was going for her c1) and pulled c2 zhongli first pull i was so mad about it but his c2 is actually so useful with my friends so it was a blessing in disguise honestly
From owning a C0 Xianyun I realized that if you want Plunge DMG you're almost always better off going Atk% rather than Anemo and Crit. I had a Lost Prayer at Lvl80 on her and when I got it to Lvl90 she got 500 ATK which increase my Hu Tao's Plunge DMG by over 30k DMG. She's basically Plunge Shenhe so it's understandable, but with that said I have a request. Can you try Chongyun with both Shenhe and Xianyun? Mine is at Lvl20 and alredy deals night 50k, so I'm interested in what a Lvl90 one could do. I do expect Furina to be in the team like always so that's why I didn't say anyone else with the Cryo buff provided, tho ig with that logic Wriosthley also works.
The point to wenut is to play characters that can quickly apply a lot of damage with little setup. That or play characters that deal damage non-stop even when he's underground. The whole Kaz/Neuv/Yelan/Baizhu team... not ideal. Run Yea Miko, Furina, dendro, and, well, anyone you want in the 4th slot, and crush that side of the Abyss with ease.
Yae-Nahida-Furina trivialize the second half so badly, it's not even funny. I didn't even need to bring an archer (had Baizhu as the dedicated healer for Furina and for Dendro resonance) as everyone's abilities all still hit the airborne Aeonblight and the Salon Solitaire members eventually brought it down anyway.
Does base attack affect whether dmg% or atk% is better? My napkin math says it should not really matter, since both are multipliers. Whether you multiply 100 or 200 by X, the multiplication effect is the same. So the overall multiplier is not reliant on how high base attack is. The only factor is that there is some flat attack included. More flat attack makes dmg% better, but it's not much difference overall
Moga please actually do research for yourself on how to build units because cases like this kill me. Xianyun’s dmg is plunge so Desert is bis not GT. You can’t even max out GT
i wouldnt wanna pull for cloud retainers weapon if I am getting her C6, putting her with Lost Prayer which increases her elemental skill 8% for every 4 seconds and gives crit rate 33% at Level 90
I don't think he needs to pay anything, as this is a video on a media server that content creators can access to create guides about characters before they are released
Hi Moga! I was just wondering are you able to make more gamaplay videos from honkai star rail? 👉🏻👈🏻 I mean more than raising and pulling for a character. Sim universe pr something? I think it would be cool 🥹
that 2nd team for f12 is a pain to watch (and play). why didnt he bring an on fielder who can normal atk like nahida/alhaitham hyperbloom (for yelan) or an off fielder that can do atk on their own like furina (for neuvi). its either neuv or yelan doing their own thing individually ofc its gonna be barely enough when the enemy is this annoying smh. like i know the first half has a c6r5 but that doesnt mean the other team has to be garbage
@@jacobtrang833 it's not about the dmg, it's about the playstyle. And they are very similar which is not a bad thing. and xiao can do more than 200k plunges😉, put some respect on my boy's name.
You shouldn't have used her signature. I'm not sure if the Plunge dmg buff applies to her, I think it only applies to her teammates, So using a crit dmg/rate weapon would have been better for a DPS showcase.
For everyone who is confused:
- Xianyun’s elemental skill damage plunge is count as plunge damage
- her elemental skill plunge scaling is based on lvling up her elemental skill, not NA lvl
- weirdly, she benefits from Shimenawa 4set, and Golden Troupe 2set with Kagura’s Variety weapon passive
Thanks for explanation 👍
But can we proc the shimenawa set efficiently?
Is that also the case with Gaming ?
Or it's different?
real quick dps xianyun doesnt do skill damage she does plunge
Also that she has her own plunge multiplier in skill so not even plunge🤓
@@babitamaurya4638 the skill dmg is considered plunge dmg it says it in her skill description
yes, read the skills
@@beachbaal9060plunge dmg but it scales on her skill. Leveling her normal does nothing for her skill’s plunge, as the multiplier is independent. Just like how Raiden’s normals in her burst are considered burst damage, so leveling her normal attack won’t change that damage in the slightest.
@@SoYuukki you have to upgrade the skill so she can do more damage by herself, but since it's considered plunge damage, every weapon or artefact passive boosting skill damage won't have any effect (like Kagura's Verity or Golden Troupe)
The fact that we got a strong 4* and a support 5* that can solo the abyss is crazy.
Very nice ended. I kind like the patern they are going with how the 4 star works with the 5 star featured. Charlotte,fruina chev,raiden/yoi...
@@illmentalyIts all fun and games untill you have to get c6 Faruzan
@RewZes well I never pulled for wandrer/xiao and I have c4 so pretty useless for me.
@@illmentaly worst case scenario you can play her with Heizhou or even DPS sucrose
@RewZes oh yeah i rlly should build my haizo....
Damn 75k dmg considering she is solo and you equipped her with a useless set that's still pretty good 😮
The useless artifact set kills me😭😭😭
MH? For solo it's not consistent but its okayge in floor 12 and w furina it works perfectly
@@Astrophal MH would be good with furina but without her you could use desert pavilion or 2pc atk and 2pc atk
@@Bruhitzcamm Thats true, but saying its useless is kind of a stretch especially since furina is a really good pair with her so they're often together, thats all.
@@Astrophal I think they mean GT.
I wanted to add that i feel her best set is the desert pavilion set. Boosts plunging attack damage by 40% for 20 seconds after a charge attack hits and gives anemo damage. Even if my sub optimal ceit damage im hitting 145k plus dive kkicks from her skill and faruzan alone.
Her skill is counted as plunge dmg not skill dmg
So is leveling her NA useful then?
Nope. Her NA multipliers don't affect her plunge from skill.@@lunasquib
@@Shadow-yc7yy ah oke good to know hahah
I build her as a main dps but like most of my characters
It’s not great the damage they do
wait so dessert pavillion would be more beneficial than golden troupe??
@@Slayloy69420 yep
A faster way to down the Wenut instead of shooting the orbs is applying a PECH aura on the boss then swirling with kazuha or sucrose, the swirl will hit all the orbs and it saves like 3-4 seconds since swirling for VV is part of your rotation and is faster than shooting with your bow
Moga, a quick tip for the Drake. Ypu don't have to fully charge your bow when aiming to disable it. Just by hitting a small arrow will work
finally moga acknowledged my boy rocky alvidsen
please fight more fontaine legends in the future its so satisfying to watch
Cloud retainer doesn't do skill dmg, that set is useless on her, she does plunge dmg. You should go for either atk/atk set or atk/vv
Desert pavilion is also pretty good
Desert Pavillion and Shimenawa (if you can manage the ER) will outperform 2p/2p.
I was reading an intense scene of a father betraying his child but dps Xianyun is more important
Moga is the realest f2p out there
Moga are you a simp for Cloud Retainer?
Moga: Yesn't
1:30 with her weapon giving 80 percent damage bonus. And her double dipping into base stats with her passive
I would assume that atk percent goblet might actually be better than anemo DMG bonus
If anyone didn't know, there's new local legends in chenyu vale too
Albedo has 40% plunge damage boost that's hidden behind constellations. Idk if anyone else liked him enough to pull for constellations, but if you happen to have C4 Albedo, I'd put him on her team too 😅
Hes probably still not worth using above furina or bennett though 😢
THE ARTIFACT SET UGHHH IM CRYING FOR ITS USELESSNESS😭😭😭
XIANYUN (C6 R5) is great. She is an SS for me. Why? Those pyro that made themselves invisible, she can detect them. I clear mini bosses only with the use of Barbara and her. I use her to defeat Pyro regisvine, electro regisvine, and so on. Also she can hit flying enemies shes literally a torpedo. Just use her skills and burst skill because normal attacks is kinda weak.
The downside is I was having a problem with the Rift hound. Must use Yunjin and the like.
Damn r5 .... but i couldnt do that far. But i did go c6 which is super fun.
I know the meta thing is with bennett and furina and faruzan, but i like her daughters replacing the first 2 for a fun family themed team. Im still hitting 145k dives and thats without perfect artifacts(like only have 100% or so crit at base)
Idk why but the Supercuts of cloud retainer just kamikazing her beak into the ground over and over makes me laugh.
On the Wenut/serpent side, I took a Navia/Furina team with Ningguang and Kokomi. Had zero issues with the clear times due to the massive front loaded damage. However, my Furina is c2, so I'm max stacks before I even get to Navia in the rotation. And I found that Furina's summons were knocking down wenut for me, which was nice and convenient. If anyone has Navia and Furina and are struggling with second half as well.
It's probably Mademoiselle Crabaletta's AoE that's bursting the Wenut's balls.
Moga you can use neuvilettes hydro pump to hit the Weenut's flying orbs
Leave it to mog to always not know how a unit works, her skill does plunge dmg not skill dmg, so golden troupe doesnt work on her
There is now a pair of Geovishap legends in Liyue's new region that are even tankier than Rocky and Liam
8:24 Me when my dog is named Neuvilette
This is why I pulled her she’s like Sucrose being support focused but can be meta main DPS by abusing her speciality.
I’m gonna cry because I somehow pulled on Nahida’s banner without paying attention when I meant to do Xianyun’s and got a C1 Nahida 😕
rip 🪦 im sorry bro
Ohh sorry for that but nahida c2 is very cracked
Nahida is still really good tho
Anemo mommy is total bait dude. Nahida is more useful to your account than Gimmick Retainer. Outside of getting her cus you like her, she only good for Diluc, Razor, Xinyan (surprise) and Xiao (they all have high lvl10 plunge damage) she a good healer if you need that, but you aren’t missing out on her outside of FOMO
i feel that back then i thought i was on ganyus banner (i was going for her c1) and pulled c2 zhongli first pull i was so mad about it but his c2 is actually so useful with my friends so it was a blessing in disguise honestly
Always setup your rotation before you disable the monsters, otherwise you'd waste the time the monster in the stunned state. setup before not after
Xianyun isn't at FULL POWER until she gets a voice line with the words "Oratrice Mechanique D'analyse Cardinale".
From owning a C0 Xianyun I realized that if you want Plunge DMG you're almost always better off going Atk% rather than Anemo and Crit.
I had a Lost Prayer at Lvl80 on her and when I got it to Lvl90 she got 500 ATK which increase my Hu Tao's Plunge DMG by over 30k DMG.
She's basically Plunge Shenhe so it's understandable, but with that said I have a request.
Can you try Chongyun with both Shenhe and Xianyun? Mine is at Lvl20 and alredy deals night 50k, so I'm interested in what a Lvl90 one could do.
I do expect Furina to be in the team like always so that's why I didn't say anyone else with the Cryo buff provided, tho ig with that logic Wriosthley also works.
I can't believe she solo in 1 - 2 min
She's a support and a team carry
Remind me of someone that got released in 2.0.
Both ayaka and yoimiya are dps only though? I think you are talking about 2.1
@@theusualneighbor4678 surely they're talking about the gigachad sayu
And she did it with a blank artifact set. Please someone tell MOGA she doesn't do skill DMG, but plunge dmg
Noo way
Guys Kazuha💀
@@alawe-memes9022 Kazuha got released in 1.6 tho-
The point to wenut is to play characters that can quickly apply a lot of damage with little setup. That or play characters that deal damage non-stop even when he's underground. The whole Kaz/Neuv/Yelan/Baizhu team... not ideal. Run Yea Miko, Furina, dendro, and, well, anyone you want in the 4th slot, and crush that side of the Abyss with ease.
Yae-Nahida-Furina trivialize the second half so badly, it's not even funny. I didn't even need to bring an archer (had Baizhu as the dedicated healer for Furina and for Dendro resonance) as everyone's abilities all still hit the airborne Aeonblight and the Salon Solitaire members eventually brought it down anyway.
neuvilletes what just dropped?!?!?!?!?
Does base attack affect whether dmg% or atk% is better? My napkin math says it should not really matter, since both are multipliers. Whether you multiply 100 or 200 by X, the multiplication effect is the same. So the overall multiplier is not reliant on how high base attack is. The only factor is that there is some flat attack included. More flat attack makes dmg% better, but it's not much difference overall
Try swapping Baizhu and Kazuha with Jean and Fischl on that team2. It works realy well
"Quite a bit of ping"
Dude thats what i play at normally
I want C6 Xianyun so badly 😭
Get a job then
@@danielbee2399 sure let me just pour my monthly earnings into a silly little gacha game?
@@lunasquib Don’t act like you have a job lil bro.
@@danielbee2399 ahahaha lol u didn't have to do him like that
@@saitokazuta3887 yoooooOOO
Moga please actually do research for yourself on how to build units because cases like this kill me. Xianyun’s dmg is plunge so Desert is bis not GT. You can’t even max out GT
My xianyun has lvl 2 talents right... she did 15k plunge and 32k with faruzan. She's *insane*
Probably if you use c4 Jean could do a bit more damage because of the 40% anemo res shred. Anyway Moga Top!
I think the problem with the solo was the the fact that u had so much skill issue on 2nd half
MOGA, GOLDEN TROUPE DOES NOTHING FOR HER AS HER SKILL COUNTS AS PLUNGE DAMAGE, NOT SKILL DAMAGE
8:24 neuv ballz 🌚
Every time I have nothing to see one yt , he uploads a video!! 💖 My favourite genshin creator!! 💖
i wouldnt wanna pull for cloud retainers weapon if I am getting her C6, putting her with Lost Prayer which increases her elemental skill 8% for every 4 seconds and gives crit rate 33% at Level 90
So does the plunge damage bonus from Crane's passive affect Xianyun herself?
what kind of team u are playing on 2nd side, neuvi with baizhu and no electro for hyperbloom?
I personally think she can be a DPS at C0 it's just her cons make it more viable
Her passiv dmg scales with dmg%, pretty sure dmg% Goblet is still better for that reasen than atk%
this gave me motion sickness
I really Like her,im sad they locking option to on-field some 5 stars behind their C6
Lol The "Drake"😂😂😂😂
Wenut down time is just enough to do everyone burst and then his back at it 😢
Wait her weapon passive doesnt just double???? What????
DID ANYONE SEE THE PHYSICAL 204162 DAMAGE?!
The artifacts second side team being wrong(auto hitters is the goat here yae nahida fischl etc.) he said Xianyun gonna play this on hard mode lol
Is this your acc or another?
Since when u pull for c6 characters?
How did he have such high ping with no lag
Xianyun more like Bayonetta 💀
Moga, how much did it cost you to get her to C6 and R5?
I don't think he needs to pay anything, as this is a video on a media server that content creators can access to create guides about characters before they are released
@@Gabriel-jx6wg Oh man....please get me on that server. It will give my credit card the break it needs.
I love cloud retainer
Hi Moga! I was just wondering are you able to make more gamaplay videos from honkai star rail? 👉🏻👈🏻 I mean more than raising and pulling for a character. Sim universe pr something? I think it would be cool 🥹
Is plunge atk considered a normal atk ?
I think a plunge set is better for solo than hunter 😅
Broo that skill plunged not attack plunged. You should do plunged in order to see her real damage
aren't you pull only till C2?
R.I.P Genshin Boycott 😢
How does Moga do his C6R5? Does he have like another hyper whale account or sum?
Wait is this a priv server...
Are you crazy man you all time do this how do it possible i wish i got one day raiden c6 r5 😢 😊
I’m 64 pity I hope I win 50/50 😭
Omg same. Tomorrow ill have 6-7 fates more. Hope ill win 50/50 too.
@@nolandzur good luck 🫡
she's ac-130 change my mind
whales gotta c6 to realize she can be both dps and support. Hilarious
I miss Masanori
that 2nd team for f12 is a pain to watch (and play). why didnt he bring an on fielder who can normal atk like nahida/alhaitham hyperbloom (for yelan) or an off fielder that can do atk on their own like furina (for neuvi). its either neuv or yelan doing their own thing individually ofc its gonna be barely enough when the enemy is this annoying smh. like i know the first half has a c6r5 but that doesnt mean the other team has to be garbage
bro had 2 full mins on wenut and had to repeat.. no way we this bad
Xiao with extra jumps
??? Xiao can’t even do 200k let alone 350k
@@jacobtrang833 it's not about the dmg, it's about the playstyle. And they are very similar which is not a bad thing.
and xiao can do more than 200k plunges😉, put some respect on my boy's name.
When 6c r5 accounts taking 2 mins killing those 12 1 12 2 bosses feels dumb
well her sig isnt even that good at dps and this still all worked, wow! imagine with something better
c4 jean instead of bennett maybe
I first 3 star f12 lvl 3 without bow character, before lvl2 against wenut. The actual time waster. Hate that guy
The only problem with this character is the voice line
why, isnt there other good characters to c6 r5?
Xianyun is one of the best dps at c6
This video is the definition of skill issue.
Anyone can help me i dont have any 5 star player top up my id please 🙏🏻 😢
You shouldn't have used her signature. I'm not sure if the Plunge dmg buff applies to her, I think it only applies to her teammates, So using a crit dmg/rate weapon would have been better for a DPS showcase.
opp
Moga is the most NPC genshin creator out there, he doesn't feel like a real human being--
(no offence)
first i know i'm annoying
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