Dude presti sounds like such a stand up guy man. Having that convo with giddey viewing him as an allstar but at the same time knowing he cant be that starting for this team and being a man and telling giddey that and allowing giddey to make a call himself. Juat stand up all the way around.
People dont realize how good Caruso is because who really talks about Chicago? But watching the game you just see his aura and impact. When the game needs a big shift, Caruso is definitely that guy. It's like he's hunting for impact plays to secure the win. OKC better have nationally televised games. We need to secure this MVP for Shai and lock in all stars
Not gonna lie I’m going to miss Giddey a lot. I hoped that Sam wouldn’t trade him but deep inside I always knew it was the right move. He wasn’t a good fit with the team and it showed against Dallas. Still wish him the best!
Yup, I see a lot of my own playstyle in Giddey and I wanted him gone because he’ll fit another team better but now I feel like I lost a dog or something
brother i just found this channel listen as a Thunder Fan i would love to you only focus on us but its a waste if you would only do only Thunder content and limit yourself. i would recommend you doing all nba content, you are way too good for only 6k subs!
Not sure how Thunder won the trade. Giddy scores more, gets more assists and more rebounds, and is 9 years younger. Why even draft a point guard if you are not going to use him for what he does best? Perhaps a good trade for Giddy.
Didn't Sam also say pretty recently that had OKC kept Green, we would have been better prepared for the modern NBA? That perhaps we would have cracked the code? I do wonder if perhaps Josh Giddey would have helped us crack the code. Trading a number 6 pick for a guy that was already on our roster really stings from a value and opportune perspective.
Giddey would’ve had to either developed a shot, become way better at defense, or learned how to make himself valuable off ball in some other way for that to happen and that wasn’t gonna happen here. And looking at it as trading the #6 pick for Caruso is an extremely simplistic way of viewing it
@@Flamerunner451 Perhaps in 8 or 9 years when Giddey is as old as Caruso he will be as good a shooter as Caruso is now. In the meantime, Caruso has already peaked, and will never be the passer or rebounder that Giddey is.
@@mitchelpinion1852 how did that passing and rebounding help against Dallas? How does he help the team when the ball’s not in his hands? Is the team better when he’s got the ball and running the show instead of Shai or JDub?
@@Flamerunner451 Passing and rebounding always helps. Perhaps OKC would have fared better if he had played more. Replacing him as a starter didn't help. OKC had a great year with him as a starter. The losses to Dallas were team losses. Aside from SGA nobody played great. The problem is Giddey doesn't fit well with OKC's schemes. They apparently want shoot first point guards. He is almost certainly better off with another team. In terms of talent, age, etc. Chicago certainly got the better end of the trade, but maybe OKC will benefit for a year or two with an improved (although already very good) defense and slightly better 3 point shooting.
@@mitchelpinion1852 yeah the whole point of what I was saying is Giddey doesn’t fit the rest of the roster so it was smart to move him and get someone who fits better and will contribute more to winning. The games Giddey shot well he was contributing but more often than not we were winning in spite of him. So many games where the whole 1st quarter we were down only for it to flip when we got him off the floor
Chet was the reason we got a better record he made us little taller I hope we draft Kyle filipowski Drafting undersized players like daron Holmes and Salaun would be disaster in playoffs we already have Deing then why are we even working out with salun? We need to get taller by all means necessary by either trading for Jonathan Isaac or by drafting Kyle filipowski
I agree. coby worked hard for that position, earned it and had really come into his own. The only thing I can figure is they move Coby to the 2 to replace Zach. Coby also made clear he wanted to be a starter for the Bulls or he'd walk. When he said that LaVine was the 2 so you know what Coby meant. Imo? Coby is better than Giddey atm at the PG position and most all else so idk wth the Bulls are up to? For Giddey to fit? Drastic roster changes are needed. I believe they're coming but what they'll look like is anyone's guess.
I get that we’re all being cordial, but are we really pretending Josh Giddey is a good NBA player? There’s no place in the NBA for unathletic players who can’t shoot, can’t finish in traffic, and can’t defend. I get it, he has an elite skill- stationary passing. I’m not looking forward to the annoying “The Thunder gave up on Giddey too early!” narratives once he’s averaging the emptiest 18/8/8 in the league on a losing team. It really surprises me how semi-high a lot of media guys are on Giddey. His advanced numbers are not generous and paint a much different story than his raw stats do. Do you know how hard it is to get heavy minutes on a 57 win team and still be an on/off negative? That’s almost impressive.
I’ve been saying this so much. I really feel like the eye test is enough to prove your points. I’m almost flabbergasted how much Giddey talk has been positive. I’m almost certain people who are acting like Giddey had a great future in OKC are Australian or don’t really watch basketball with much interest or understanding of the NBA game.
Perhaps you should take another look at these advanced numbers then.... The team was +0.6 per 100 possessions better with him on the court vs off the court in the regular season, which is nearly identical to the other starters on the team not named Shai. Whereas, the bench player who replaced most of his minutes, Cason Wallace, made the team -4 points per 100 possessions worse with him on the court. As for the playoffs, the team was +7.2 points per 100 posessions better with Giddey on the court vs off. But hey, lets not let facts get in the way of our biases.
There is a place in the NBA for 6ft 8in point guards who are already outstanding passers and rebounders with decent offensive statistics over the last 3 years and are only 21 years old. Five years from now Giddey will be at his prime and Caruso will either be out of the NBA or on his last legs.
@@SpecOpsCM eye test doesnt say anything because hes being played out of position. The 'potential' that is being talked about is him as an on ball pg not a sit in the corner and shoot 3s.
“So many people thought as a 5 player draft” …uhhh..is this sarcasm? What are you even ttalking about 🤨 🤦🏻♂️😆 ….the 2021 draft was widely regarded as one of the deepest & most prolific classes in the history of the NBA, L0LL. Duh.
No it wasn’t lol everyone talked about how one of the top 5 guys were the main prizes in the draft. Cade, Green, Mobley, Scottie, and Suggs were all considered the top tier and everyone else was at least a step below
@@Flamerunner451 umm, no, they didn’t, and no, no one ever said that. ‘21 was universally heralded as one of the deepest draft classes ever. People began anticipating it as early as 2018
@@marcbasil I know all that but when they say it was a 5 person draft that doesn’t literally mean every player outside of those 5 was looked at as trash. The only ones people thought had any star potential besides those 5 were Kuminga and to a lesser extent Sengun
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Going to miss Giddey a lot, but happy to see Caruso on the team. Excited for this teams future!
Dude presti sounds like such a stand up guy man. Having that convo with giddey viewing him as an allstar but at the same time knowing he cant be that starting for this team and being a man and telling giddey that and allowing giddey to make a call himself.
Juat stand up all the way around.
this account needs more attention, such good videos
This guy is tops in making Thunder videos!!
i hope he can thrive and succeed in chitown. sad to see him go. ill always root for him except against us lol
4:27 "turn up the AC it's cold in here" is a good line... but my guy Maddog and I came up with it first. For real. And I want my damn respect.
excited to see what happens this season
Treat Caruso well Thunder fans. Hope y’all finally break through that wall and win a chip
People dont realize how good Caruso is because who really talks about Chicago? But watching the game you just see his aura and impact. When the game needs a big shift, Caruso is definitely that guy. It's like he's hunting for impact plays to secure the win. OKC better have nationally televised games. We need to secure this MVP for Shai and lock in all stars
Not gonna lie I’m going to miss Giddey a lot. I hoped that Sam wouldn’t trade him but deep inside I always knew it was the right move. He wasn’t a good fit with the team and it showed against Dallas. Still wish him the best!
Yup, I see a lot of my own playstyle in Giddey and I wanted him gone because he’ll fit another team better but now I feel like I lost a dog or something
Love this!!!
insane to me you’re not halfway to 100k subs at a minimum, keep up the fantastic content
Man if thunders win the ring right after adding caruso, his value gonna sky rocket
That's a pretty big if.
@@mitchelpinion1852 it's a good if
Hate to see AC go, but y’all are gonna LOVE AC 😞❤️🩹
brother i just found this channel
listen as a Thunder Fan i would love to you only focus on us but its a waste if you would only do only Thunder content and limit yourself.
i would recommend you doing all nba content, you are way too good for only 6k subs!
The best part is that they drafted a better version of Giddey in Topic
Sad To see Giddey Go. He's my Favorite player. But hey the thunder won the trade
Until you learn that Caruso is a chinadoll lmao
Not sure how Thunder won the trade. Giddy scores more, gets more assists and more rebounds, and is 9 years younger. Why even draft a point guard if you are not going to use him for what he does best? Perhaps a good trade for Giddy.
he's great but rebounding took another hit, need some size
The offseason just began. Losing Giddeys size definitely shows Presti is planning some work in the frontcourt
😢😂😂😂😂😂
This channel is going to quadruple in subs by mid season trade deadline.
Caruso is going to turn it up in OKC ..you think the crowd was loud in the past going to be like Lumen Field up in the The Paycom!!!
What do I do with all of his rookie cards now...
That's some 2013 LOB stuff because that was the best defense in the NFL ever and they did it for 4 years not one !!!
Seems the Thunder have a logjam at guard and AC doesn't help that.
Perhaps good for the OKC, but player for player Chicago got the best end of this trade.
Didn't Sam also say pretty recently that had OKC kept Green, we would have been better prepared for the modern NBA? That perhaps we would have cracked the code?
I do wonder if perhaps Josh Giddey would have helped us crack the code. Trading a number 6 pick for a guy that was already on our roster really stings from a value and opportune perspective.
Giddey would’ve had to either developed a shot, become way better at defense, or learned how to make himself valuable off ball in some other way for that to happen and that wasn’t gonna happen here. And looking at it as trading the #6 pick for Caruso is an extremely simplistic way of viewing it
@@Flamerunner451 Perhaps in 8 or 9 years when Giddey is as old as Caruso he will be as good a shooter as Caruso is now. In the meantime, Caruso has already peaked, and will never be the passer or rebounder that Giddey is.
@@mitchelpinion1852 how did that passing and rebounding help against Dallas? How does he help the team when the ball’s not in his hands? Is the team better when he’s got the ball and running the show instead of Shai or JDub?
@@Flamerunner451 Passing and rebounding always helps. Perhaps OKC would have fared better if he had played more. Replacing him as a starter didn't help. OKC had a great year with him as a starter. The losses to Dallas were team losses. Aside from SGA nobody played great. The problem is Giddey doesn't fit well with OKC's schemes. They apparently want shoot first point guards. He is almost certainly better off with another team. In terms of talent, age, etc. Chicago certainly got the better end of the trade, but maybe OKC will benefit for a year or two with an improved (although already very good) defense and slightly better 3 point shooting.
@@mitchelpinion1852 yeah the whole point of what I was saying is Giddey doesn’t fit the rest of the roster so it was smart to move him and get someone who fits better and will contribute more to winning. The games Giddey shot well he was contributing but more often than not we were winning in spite of him. So many games where the whole 1st quarter we were down only for it to flip when we got him off the floor
Chet was the reason we got a better record he made us little taller
I hope we draft Kyle filipowski
Drafting undersized players like daron Holmes and Salaun would be disaster in playoffs we already have Deing then why are we even working out with salun?
We need to get taller by all means necessary by either trading for Jonathan Isaac or by drafting Kyle filipowski
Filipowski is not a lottery pick. If any of the other 15 odd lottery guys are there. We are taking them before him.
It’s crazy the vast difference in Mocks. Filipowski is mocked from 12 to the 2nd round in some mocks. This draft is gonna be an odd one
@@PatBlom yes he deserves to be drafted at 12
Won't miss Giddy can't shoot sorry guys
Yeah and his off-court issues really make it impossible. Gonna miss the SLOB wizard.
Gonna miss those SLOB’s
You and me both!
What happen to lonzo ball and coby white now they have josh giddey this makes no sense
lonzo hasnt played profesional basketball in almost two years, safe to say hes not coming back to the form he had.
@@maco34576 Its nearly 3 years. Messed up situation for the Bulls. 34 games played of 246 smh.
I agree. coby worked hard for that position, earned it and had really come into his own. The only thing I can figure is they move Coby to the 2 to replace Zach. Coby also made clear he wanted to be a starter for the Bulls or he'd walk. When he said that LaVine was the 2 so you know what Coby meant. Imo? Coby is better than Giddey atm at the PG position and most all else so idk wth the Bulls are up to? For Giddey to fit? Drastic roster changes are needed. I believe they're coming but what they'll look like is anyone's guess.
Lonzo Ball sucks
One more move and we'll be Celtics level. Dieng, Dort, and 3 picks for Jaren Jackson & Vince Williams/GG Jackson, or Markkanen & Jordan Clarkson
offender for a defender lets go
Get the facts and while at it get a life.
@@denisemcrae4033 what life did you go out and get that made "this guy got away with it on an arcane technicality" a hill you want to die on
I get that we’re all being cordial, but are we really pretending Josh Giddey is a good NBA player?
There’s no place in the NBA for unathletic players who can’t shoot, can’t finish in traffic, and can’t defend.
I get it, he has an elite skill- stationary passing. I’m not looking forward to the annoying “The Thunder gave up on Giddey too early!” narratives once he’s averaging the emptiest 18/8/8 in the league on a losing team.
It really surprises me how semi-high a lot of media guys are on Giddey. His advanced numbers are not generous and paint a much different story than his raw stats do. Do you know how hard it is to get heavy minutes on a 57 win team and still be an on/off negative? That’s almost impressive.
I’ve been saying this so much. I really feel like the eye test is enough to prove your points. I’m almost flabbergasted how much Giddey talk has been positive. I’m almost certain people who are acting like Giddey had a great future in OKC are Australian or don’t really watch basketball with much interest or understanding of the NBA game.
Perhaps you should take another look at these advanced numbers then.... The team was +0.6 per 100 possessions better with him on the court vs off the court in the regular season, which is nearly identical to the other starters on the team not named Shai. Whereas, the bench player who replaced most of his minutes, Cason Wallace, made the team -4 points per 100 possessions worse with him on the court. As for the playoffs, the team was +7.2 points per 100 posessions better with Giddey on the court vs off. But hey, lets not let facts get in the way of our biases.
There is a place in the NBA for 6ft 8in point guards who are already outstanding passers and rebounders with decent offensive statistics over the last 3 years and are only 21 years old. Five years from now Giddey will be at his prime and Caruso will either be out of the NBA or on his last legs.
@@awdrpepperLMAO Why go for Cason's 35 minutes with the starting 5 instead of Joe's 101 minutes with the starting 5?
@@SpecOpsCM eye test doesnt say anything because hes being played out of position. The 'potential' that is being talked about is him as an on ball pg not a sit in the corner and shoot 3s.
“So many people thought as a 5 player draft” …uhhh..is this sarcasm? What are you even ttalking about 🤨 🤦🏻♂️😆 ….the 2021 draft was widely regarded as one of the deepest & most prolific classes in the history of the NBA, L0LL. Duh.
No it wasn’t lol everyone talked about how one of the top 5 guys were the main prizes in the draft. Cade, Green, Mobley, Scottie, and Suggs were all considered the top tier and everyone else was at least a step below
@@Flamerunner451 umm, no, they didn’t, and no, no one ever said that. ‘21 was universally heralded as one of the deepest draft classes ever. People began anticipating it as early as 2018
@@marcbasil I know all that but when they say it was a 5 person draft that doesn’t literally mean every player outside of those 5 was looked at as trash. The only ones people thought had any star potential besides those 5 were Kuminga and to a lesser extent Sengun