I read the book after seeing the movie. Andrew iS Laedis. His partner Chuck is Dr Sheehan. He WAS there for two years, The whole thing IS a role-play created by Dr Cawley. The book gives more backstory.
Another movie that Leo got robbed of an Oscar. My interpretation of the ending was he acted like he regressed again- but in reality he didn’t- he just didn’t want to live with the knowledge of him being a monster…. Which is he said “which is worse, to live as a monster or to die as a good man” He wanted to die with his fantasy.
Beautiful movie. Creeped me out the first time I saw it and the end was so heartbreaking. The fact he chose a lobotomy to escape his demons was just so sad but understandable. Definitely a good rewatch to see how everything falls into place
What's brilliant about this movie is that through the entire film our perception is the same as Teddy's, so when his reality is crumbling around him at the end of the movie, ours is as well. The viewer and the character are having the exact same struggle with reality at the same time. It's honestly incredible and it was very enjoyable watching you have that experience
What happened at the end was 100% true, however Andrew didn't regress, he decided to get lobotomized. When he said " which would be worse, to live as a monster or die as a good man?" means he decided to get lobotomy so he can't hurt anyone again if he does regress.
"This is a game. All of this is for you. You're not investigating anything. You're a fucking rat in a maze." Fun Fact: Mark Ruffalo won the role of Chuck Aule after sending Martin Scorsese a fan letter saying how much he wanted to work with him. Historical Fact: The traumatic killing of Nazi guards of Dachau concentration camp is a historical event, taking place on April 29, 1945, when the camp was liberated by the U.S. Army. Clues Fact: There are several clues and intentional continuity errors throughout the movie that foreshadow the ending. This includes the guards just standing around the scene of the drowning (they are not actively searching for Rachel since she doesn't exist); a patient's drink of water disappearing between shots (in the shot from Teddy's perspective, she drinks from an empty hand; Teddy has a consistent aversion to water throughout the film, as it subconsciously reminds him of his drowned children); a cardigan appearing briefly on Rachel (which is later worn by the other Rachel); and lines from Edward's, a.k.a. Andrew's dreams being repeated (such as "Why are you wet, baby?"). These techniques are also used in his dreams, showing a similarity between what he perceives as a dream, and what he perceives as real.
Clues fact: what is being shown is deliberately Auschwitz rather than Dachau; some have contested whether this was a mistake or deliberate, but there's not a chance that something like that would ever have gone unnoticed.
He really was Andrew but I understand your speculation. I believe Andrew’s final line “to live as a monster, or to die a good man?” indicates that he hasn’t actually regressed, he would just rather get lobotomised as Teddy instead of living as Andrew
I just want to add that I’ve read the book and he really was disturbed. They were not doing any experiments at the asylum. All of the weird visions were in his head and they truly were trying to help him as he really had been there two years.
@@eddietucker7005: It was her idea of trying to help him; she wanted him to run away as she thought he could possibly manage to do that during the entire roleplaying setup. And as for whether or not he did get a lobotomy at the end, it remains unknown; it is however strongly implied. On the other hand, maybe the doctor could somehow manage to convince the others to keep his brain intact and to try something similar again in the future, since they managed to get through to him again. It remains open.
My personal interpretation - it was real, ending being him "regressing", while actually with little sanity that's left, to actually "die a hero", at least in his own eyes, than to "live as a monster".
"Would you rather live as a monster or die as a good man?" I think Andrew chose lobotomy. He couldn't live knowing that his wife and kids are dead. So even though he made a recovery, he pretended that he was still crazy so he could "die" through lobotomy.
Crazy that dicaprio is one of your favourite actors and you still have another 3 scorsese and dicaprio epic collabs to discover, just speaks volumes about the mans body of work
Thank you for reacting to one of my all-time personal favourite psychological horror drama films which is a rarity of Martin Scorsese to direct given his high profile for Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino and recently Killers of the Flower Moon. It took me 3 times to watch the film to see the signs that Teddy Daniels/Andrew Laeddis (cool fictional character names) is not who we thought he is. At the end of the film, his last words “What could be much worse in this place: live as a monster or die as a good man” is an indicator that Laeddis opted out for the “lighthouse icepick” due to the fact he got to the point of no longer handling the trauma of killing his wife for killing his kids and not wanting to regress restarting the entire cutting-edge roleplay all over again. As much as I know that it was all a roleplay: I loved the scene of Dr Rachel Solando in the cave, got a feeling it’s real (yet Dr Cawley brushed it off as fake hallucinations in Laeddis’ mind) as I could see this play a role in the plot of a continuation miniseries that I call “Escape From Shutter Island”. No matter if he was thinking of something in the past that’s true or not - the US army liberation of Dachau (among the early Nazi campsites to appear in the Holocaust) resulted in the soldiers and surviving Holocaust prisoners participated in a revenge killing (execution squad-esque) on the camp guards except those who faced the music in the criminal courts. It did happen in our world. An investigation conducted by US army Lieutenant-colonel Joseph Whittaker was suppressed by US army general George Patton and a Bavaria governor to cover up what Laeddis described as “not warfare but murder [on both sides]”. I do believe Laeddis’ involvement in the Dachau liberation and revenge killings was true.
In regards to the director of Shutter Island, he's an absolute legend in the film industry. His specialty are epic crime films. Definitely worth looking into his other masterful works: Goodfellas, Casino, Gangs of New York, The Aviator, The Departed, The Wolf of Wall Street and many more.
When I re-watch I feel like he's not crazy at all. He's too good at his job and he slowly starts losing it due to being drugged. Also literally everyone on the island acts shady af
Top 5 twist endings in a film. So many filma have tried pulling what shutter island pulled off and failed but this was the goat of the "gotcha!" novies
At the end he basically chooses to be lobotomized. He hadn't really regressed at that last moment but he would rather die (not literally) as a good man. He wants to forget.
my interpretation of the ending, if anyone cares, is that Andrew's therapy was succesful, but intentionally pretended to revert back to coping mechanisms, knowing they would lobotomize him, cause he just can't live with the trauma and guilt of what happened, and what he had done. hence the question: "which would be worse, to live as a monster, or to die as a good man"
Pay a lot of attention to what he said at the end, we are to assume that either 1.) He reverted back to the role play or 2.) he really was cured now, but just wanted to die as a good man, living a lie
This is one of my favorite movies ever. I’m a huge horror fan and this is ALMOST a horror but still have this great script, acting n direction which most horror movies don’t have. But this mystery, thriller kinda movie made so so well is my cup of tea big time
You are right. Sandra explained it beautifully! All his delusions were a defense mechanism to keep himself from facing the painful reality that his wife was clinically disturbed and killed her children and in turn he killed her. So, heartbreaking! I personally feel that if he was still alive, Alfred Hitchcock would have made this film. Yes 2010 was a great Di Caprio year! Scorsese is so brilliant! The Departed with Leonardo is another great partnership between he and Scorsese.
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So they showed the lobotomy tools … I dunno if this is like a proven theory or I’m reaching but when he says “ which would be worse to live as a monster, or die, is a good man “ then the Dr looked at him funny… I’ve always figured that he never regressed he was just putting on the show to make it seem like he fell back cus he didn’t want to continue living in reality, knowing what he did and said F it let them lobotomize me.. the dr picked up on that an seen that’s what he was doing so he didn’t have to remember what happened an he wouldn’t be a danger anymore.
Shutter Island has what you call an unreliable narrator, where we see what he sees and are supposed to understand thing the way he does. Watching the movie a second time really is like watching a whole different movie. There’s constantly hints at the ending, and it’s almost more exciting the second time around. It’s definitely my all-time favourite movie.
I read the book after seeing the movie. Andrew iS Laedis. His partner Chuck is Dr Sheehan. He WAS there for two years, The whole thing IS a role-play created by Dr Cawley. The book gives more backstory.
Another movie that Leo got robbed of an Oscar.
My interpretation of the ending was he acted like he regressed again- but in reality he didn’t- he just didn’t want to live with the knowledge of him being a monster…. Which is he said “which is worse, to live as a monster or to die as a good man”
He wanted to die with his fantasy.
Beautiful movie. Creeped me out the first time I saw it and the end was so heartbreaking. The fact he chose a lobotomy to escape his demons was just so sad but understandable. Definitely a good rewatch to see how everything falls into place
Heartbreaking is the right word for this movie.
So basically at the end Andrew didnt regress, he would rather a lobotomy than die a bad guy .
Exactly, he didn't want to live knowing what he did, so he pretended to have regressed to be lobotomized and basically "erase" that memory.
What's brilliant about this movie is that through the entire film our perception is the same as Teddy's, so when his reality is crumbling around him at the end of the movie, ours is as well. The viewer and the character are having the exact same struggle with reality at the same time. It's honestly incredible and it was very enjoyable watching you have that experience
What happened at the end was 100% true, however Andrew didn't regress, he decided to get lobotomized. When he said " which would be worse, to live as a monster or die as a good man?" means he decided to get lobotomy so he can't hurt anyone again if he does regress.
Leonardo DiCaprio is golden. My second favorite actor.
One of the best movies of all time. Tully a masterpiece in all the details.
"This is a game. All of this is for you. You're not investigating anything. You're a fucking rat in a maze."
Fun Fact: Mark Ruffalo won the role of Chuck Aule after sending Martin Scorsese a fan letter saying how much he wanted to work with him.
Historical Fact: The traumatic killing of Nazi guards of Dachau concentration camp is a historical event, taking place on April 29, 1945, when the camp was liberated by the U.S. Army.
Clues Fact: There are several clues and intentional continuity errors throughout the movie that foreshadow the ending. This includes the guards just standing around the scene of the drowning (they are not actively searching for Rachel since she doesn't exist); a patient's drink of water disappearing between shots (in the shot from Teddy's perspective, she drinks from an empty hand; Teddy has a consistent aversion to water throughout the film, as it subconsciously reminds him of his drowned children); a cardigan appearing briefly on Rachel (which is later worn by the other Rachel); and lines from Edward's, a.k.a. Andrew's dreams being repeated (such as "Why are you wet, baby?"). These techniques are also used in his dreams, showing a similarity between what he perceives as a dream, and what he perceives as real.
Clues fact: what is being shown is deliberately Auschwitz rather than Dachau; some have contested whether this was a mistake or deliberate, but there's not a chance that something like that would ever have gone unnoticed.
He really was Andrew but I understand your speculation. I believe Andrew’s final line “to live as a monster, or to die a good man?” indicates that he hasn’t actually regressed, he would just rather get lobotomised as Teddy instead of living as Andrew
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I just want to add that I’ve read the book and he really was disturbed. They were not doing any experiments at the asylum. All of the weird visions were in his head and they truly were trying to help him as he really had been there two years.
But did they do a lobotomy on him at the end or not?
Why would that woman write “run” on a piece of paper to him?
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It was her idea of trying to help him; she wanted him to run away as she thought he could possibly manage to do that during the entire roleplaying setup.
And as for whether or not he did get a lobotomy at the end, it remains unknown; it is however strongly implied. On the other hand, maybe the doctor could somehow manage to convince the others to keep his brain intact and to try something similar again in the future, since they managed to get through to him again. It remains open.
I love Rufelos piece at 15:04, the way his voice intensifies is brilliant
SO fun seeing you try to figure out what was real. You gotta see Mystic River, with Sean Penn, Tim Robbins & Kevin Bacon. A great thriller!
My personal interpretation - it was real, ending being him "regressing", while actually with little sanity that's left, to actually "die a hero", at least in his own eyes, than to "live as a monster".
The part where he screams crying when seeing his kids dead in the lake always gets me.
this is one of my favourite movies i'm so happy you did this!
"Would you rather live as a monster or die as a good man?"
I think Andrew chose lobotomy. He couldn't live knowing that his wife and kids are dead. So even though he made a recovery, he pretended that he was still crazy so he could "die" through lobotomy.
Crazy that dicaprio is one of your favourite actors and you still have another 3 scorsese and dicaprio epic collabs to discover, just speaks volumes about the mans body of work
One of my favourite movies ever. The soundtrack is great too. It's a masterclass in directing and acting.
Thank you for reacting to one of my all-time personal favourite psychological horror drama films which is a rarity of Martin Scorsese to direct given his high profile for Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, Casino and recently Killers of the Flower Moon.
It took me 3 times to watch the film to see the signs that Teddy Daniels/Andrew Laeddis (cool fictional character names) is not who we thought he is. At the end of the film, his last words “What could be much worse in this place: live as a monster or die as a good man” is an indicator that Laeddis opted out for the “lighthouse icepick” due to the fact he got to the point of no longer handling the trauma of killing his wife for killing his kids and not wanting to regress restarting the entire cutting-edge roleplay all over again.
As much as I know that it was all a roleplay: I loved the scene of Dr Rachel Solando in the cave, got a feeling it’s real (yet Dr Cawley brushed it off as fake hallucinations in Laeddis’ mind) as I could see this play a role in the plot of a continuation miniseries that I call “Escape From Shutter Island”.
No matter if he was thinking of something in the past that’s true or not - the US army liberation of Dachau (among the early Nazi campsites to appear in the Holocaust) resulted in the soldiers and surviving Holocaust prisoners participated in a revenge killing (execution squad-esque) on the camp guards except those who faced the music in the criminal courts. It did happen in our world.
An investigation conducted by US army Lieutenant-colonel Joseph Whittaker was suppressed by US army general George Patton and a Bavaria governor to cover up what Laeddis described as “not warfare but murder [on both sides]”. I do believe Laeddis’ involvement in the Dachau liberation and revenge killings was true.
One of my favourite films, Leo killed it. Did he really go mad at the end again or did he choose to die a good man ;)
In regards to the director of Shutter Island, he's an absolute legend in the film industry. His specialty are epic crime films. Definitely worth looking into his other masterful works: Goodfellas, Casino, Gangs of New York, The Aviator, The Departed, The Wolf of Wall Street and many more.
How Leo didn’t win an Oscar for this is beyond me. Hollywood had a blind spot when it came to him for decades.
The most iconic plotwist of all time
This came out the same year as Inception, and DiCaprio's character's have very similar tragic backstories in each.
an amazing movie, even better on a rewatch when you know the twist!
When I re-watch I feel like he's not crazy at all. He's too good at his job and he slowly starts losing it due to being drugged. Also literally everyone on the island acts shady af
sooo glad you reacted to it!!!! cant wait to watch
Top 5 twist endings in a film. So many filma have tried pulling what shutter island pulled off and failed but this was the goat of the "gotcha!" novies
At the end he basically chooses to be lobotomized. He hadn't really regressed at that last moment but he would rather die (not literally) as a good man. He wants to forget.
Definitely warning signs. Biggest one being her setting their apartment on fire, that’s why they moved to the lake house in the first place
my interpretation of the ending, if anyone cares, is that Andrew's therapy was succesful, but intentionally pretended to revert back to coping mechanisms, knowing they would lobotomize him, cause he just can't live with the trauma and guilt of what happened, and what he had done. hence the question:
"which would be worse, to live as a monster, or to die as a good man"
Pay a lot of attention to what he said at the end, we are to assume that either 1.) He reverted back to the role play or 2.) he really was cured now, but just wanted to die as a good man, living a lie
Yay I was waiting for this reaction! Pushing play now. Definitely gonna get blazed for this reaction😂
This is one of my favorite movies ever. I’m a huge horror fan and this is ALMOST a horror but still have this great script, acting n direction which most horror movies don’t have. But this mystery, thriller kinda movie made so so well is my cup of tea big time
My first Martin Scorsese movie was THE COLOR OF MONEY, which is a sequel to THE HUSTLER. Both movies are classics and worth a reaction.
You are right. Sandra explained it beautifully! All his delusions were a defense mechanism to keep himself from facing the painful reality that his wife was clinically disturbed and killed her children and in turn he killed her. So, heartbreaking! I personally feel that if he was still alive, Alfred Hitchcock would have made this film. Yes 2010 was a great Di Caprio year! Scorsese is so brilliant! The Departed with Leonardo is another great partnership between he and Scorsese.
What a great movie 💜💜
I think that the end is Andrew pretending that he regressed so that he wouldn’t have to live with the memory of what really happened.
I didn’t realize Inception came out that long ago. Time flies
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Have you watched Basketball Diaries? I loved him in that.
This movie does such an amazing job at showing what mental illness looks like. I was so blown away by the ending I didn't even see that coming.😁
Everytime we pee in bed, we dream of water.
Another good asylum movie you should check out is Stonehearst Asylum
So they showed the lobotomy tools … I dunno if this is like a proven theory or I’m reaching but when he says “ which would be worse to live as a monster, or die, is a good man “ then the Dr looked at him funny… I’ve always figured that he never regressed he was just putting on the show to make it seem like he fell back cus he didn’t want to continue living in reality, knowing what he did and said F it let them lobotomize me.. the dr picked up on that an seen that’s what he was doing so he didn’t have to remember what happened an he wouldn’t be a danger anymore.
Yea he’s telling the truth!! Come on now!!!
Shutter Island has what you call an unreliable narrator, where we see what he sees and are supposed to understand thing the way he does.
Watching the movie a second time really is like watching a whole different movie. There’s constantly hints at the ending, and it’s almost more exciting the second time around.
It’s definitely my all-time favourite movie.
You've never seen a Scorsese movie before? Jesus man how is that even possible lol You gotta binge his filmography asap
I appreciate the content I really do, but please, I hope you’re getting out of that room.
What do you mean? lol
@@MovieFusion you post so much that’s all I’m sayin :p
@@ratatataraxia ahhh lmaoo. It is my job so it's alright. I get good time out of the office as well
@@MovieFusion “the office” 😂
He did in essence kill himself that's what last line meant he knew he was getting lobotomized so he chose to do it