@maltheri9833except the imperium was about to collapse before Guilliman woke up lmao, if it werent for him, humanity would've been, most likely, annihilated by now
I'll add that Bobby G also wanted his marines to be useful and have a job after the crusade, so wanting your sons to have a peacetime job skill is a point in their favor. Someone has to do the paperwork, why not the big blueberry that can do it ultra fast and ultra good so we can all hit the bar after with our bestest file clerk who can drink us all under but cause space marine biology hacks can serve as the driver as well to get our drunk asses home.
The idea of getting to have a space marine on the jobsite or the back forty for a day makes the "good guy" chapters interesting creatively in a way the more callus ones can't be, IMO anyway.
Would be more like "manage and delegate the fuck out of menial shit like this to their actual menials/serfs/servitors while they save the big brain shit for their transhuman big brains" but yeah more or less
They're the best because Guilliman said "Oh you're gonna shoot at me?", and went to show Lorgar what it was like to be on the receiving end of what Lorgar would do to kids.
The matt ward thing is actually gw mostly throwing him under the bus. Around 4th Ed gw decided that , due to their glut of special characters, Ultramarines would get their own codex. They tasked matt ward to write it and so he did, only for last minute gw to decide that the codex needed to be the generic space marine codex. Hence it seemed like Ultramarines were getting special attention in the art and lore of the space marine book. (The grey knights were all him tho)
I liked the Ultramarines initially and was starting to consider picking a different faction like the Black Templars. But then I got Boltgun. Malum Caedo has cemented the Ultramarines as my favorite legion.
One reason no one seems to have picked up is that Guilliman wrote the codex astartes which serves as the blueprint for all loyalist chapters. So essentially they are the template for space marines in the 40k setting
So gman reinforced the blood angels with primaris marines right and when lion meets Dante he seems sad there are only 1000 blood angels but at the same time thinks to himself what I could accomplish with just that 1000 he seems to understand the codex more it's usefulness I found that neat guilliman is leading the empire and the lion has his full legion guilliman 100 000 unnumbered sons
They have a nice color scheme, their ornamentation looks cool and they are decent at pretty much everything. Yes, they are the very definition of convention and perhaps a bit dry compared to other chapters, but you need someone to set a benchmark so that everyone else can deviate a bit and thus become cooler. (Looking at you Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Black Templars, Grey Knights). It's tough being Superman (who is also blue) but you're sure glad when he shows up to a crisis situation. Same with the Ultramarines - they don't necessarily grab my attention but I wouldn't say no to their help in a warzone.
My first exposure to them was playing the Space Marine game, and one thing that always stuck with me was how Titus talked to and commented on the guardsmen. When they bowed to him he answered with "rise guardsman, you saved yourselves" and when he sees the current state of affairs he says "remarkable, a few hundred against a million orks, and they fight on". I really like how he genuinely appreciates the effort the guardsmen put in and treat them with respect.
Ultramarines have always been my favorite chapter/legion. I love the Roman aesthetic and the fact that they're genuinely heroic and good people, even if they are a bit uptight. Of course they'll never be as heroic and nice as the Salamanders but hey, nobody else will ever be at that level lol. I also think it's nice to see Guilliman, a Primarch with common sense, run things. Plus it's gotta be nice for Imperial citizens and even other Space Marine or Guardsmen groups seeing the Ultramarines show up. Knowing that not only are you getting more Space Marines, but also good battle tactics, supply lines and a food supply. And at the end of the day, someone has to be the poster boys. It might as well be the space Romans
I like the contrast they give to more specialized chapters like White Scars or Raven Guard, I can imagine something like an Ultramarines main force with Scars harrying the enemy flanks for them to be an absolute nightmare
Many situations throughout the great crusade had different legions working side by side on the battlefield for exactly that purpose. Let them all get to know and build bonds with their cousins, while diversifying and strengthening potential tactics with everyone's different specialities.
They are one of the few groups in the setting that are not total dicks and are genuinely heroic. So much so that we root for them and want them to succeed.
This exactly. Ventris and Calgar care and do their best to protect humanity in their novels. So does Guilliman too and he reminds other SM that they were made to serve humanity and not the other way
@@Tacoguy1000 I think it's more that people like playing the villain, but that doesn't stop heroism being cool too. Would be kinda boring to be pure asshole against pure asshole, instead of what we have in pure asshole against kinda asshole.
I'm a Black Templars fan and player, but I've come to appreciate the Ultramarines a lot more than I ever did. I never disliked them, but they just seemed like the default bland space marines. But reading books like Know no Fear, Dark Imperium, and the Sicarius omnibus really made me like them a lot. Their style, that Roman aesthetic, their lore, it's all great. Guilliman is probably my favorite Primarch as well.
well there is also the fact that the Word Bearers are their direct rival wich makes boxes like the "betrayal at calth" a litteral red Vs. blue scenario, the classic struggle.
I think their lore is also the easiest for people to get into and understand. Great to lure in new players who want to learn more, before going into the more edgy lore
Also the most "welcoming" idk if that makes sense, I myself love the blood angels but if my first introduction to 40k lore was "those guys drink blood and become crazy in the middle of battle, and they're the good guys" if would never habe gotten into warhammer. Ultramarines are more "hero-like" if that makes sense.
Guilidad is like the ONE guy in the whole Galaxy who's switched on enough to try and unfuck it. Makes ya wanna root for him. Same with the Ultramarines. Kinda like the Salamanders they're one of the few Space Marine chapters that aren't completely terrible and will go out of their way to fight for common humanity. Grimdark is what makes 40k great, but when there's a handful of kinda sorta good guys to root for, it serves to highlight just how horrible everything else is. I think they're a cool faction, overrepresented maybe, but definitely underapprecaited. Besides space Rome is literally like the most badass thing ever.
My favourite chapter are Blood Angels, and before you ask, YES I am gay for papa Sanguinius. That being said, i've never understood why they got hate that they did. They are good chapter for new people that are getting into 40k universe, esepcially lore wise, because like MK said people might be put off by some different chapter, like mine with that vampire/cannibalsm phase.
@@ЖИЛЕ94 There's also the melee focus Blood Angels tend to have, plus the suicide troops. Which is all cool but it might push new players into a box more than some other legions.
I prefer the White Scars. Partially because Jaghatai delivered some sick burns and was quite literally the only Primarch to notice from the start that the Emperor was a massive asshole on his own (Angron did notice, but that's to be expected considering that he was kidnapped and all of his friends were left to die), partially because they actually ACT like they really are space Mongols both militarily and culturally. Unlike the Ultramarines (aside from a book that they mostly treat like gospel when it was supposed to just be a collection of guidelines, when was the last time you've seen them do anything brilliant in both tactics and formations?) or the Space Wolves (if they're space Vikings, I'm CS Goto). As for the Ultramarines being underappreciated, they're lucky they weren't subject to anywhere NEAR a millionth of the crap the Lamenters deal with regularly after everything Matt Ward did to 40K.
Just waiting for the video about how each pre heresy primarch would react to being in guillimans situation as imperial regent :) im really hoping one of those long form videos is this bad boy ....
Video Idea: What could Guilliman's and other Primarch's hidden Warp powers possibly be? With the Lion recently gaining his Forest Walk ability its clear that they probably all have warp powers, or at least the uncorrupted Primarchs do.
@minuette1752 the Word Bearers are a boring army of darkness who does grim dark things just for edge. The biggest hypocrites in the setting who go on and on about the importance of truth only to be wholly in it for themselves cause they are bigger chaos sluts the The Emperors Children.
Great video! There's two other in-lore reasons: First is that Guilliman authored and championed the Codex Astartes. Second is the Ultramarines - though nearly broken at Calth - still emerged from the Heresy as the largest surviving Legion. This meant it created the most successor chapters, and had the largest stocks of gene-seed to make more. Two-thirds of Chapters are Ultramarine successors for that reason!
*thumbnail* "I, CATO SICARIUS, AM HONORED TO BE ON MAJORKILL'S THUMBNAIL! FOR I, CATO SICARIUS, AM THE GREATEST ULTRAMARINE EVER!" - Cato Sicarius said calmly.
Answers simple: most relatable. If the introductory army to your franchise is the easiest to get into it attracts more people. Every other chapter/legion or faction is a niche based on the person who likes them. If you introduce someone to a simple and basic army like the Ultramarines it gives people to opportunity to branch out not just in the hobby but lore as well
I still remember the Crimson Fists and Black Templars being the main Space Marine chapters everyone knew as a kid. It is interesting how much the Ultramarines have surpassed them.
I’ve been into warhammer since the rogue trader days and I remember the crimson fists were the poster boys in the beginning and blood angels were a close second. I went with ultramarines to be different back then. A few years later and man things had changed.
Glad to see you covering the very practical reasons like easier photography and paint coverage. These are HUGE logistical design decisions that are honestly pretty smart for GW.
These guys are my favorite because of their blue color (favorite color), and while I don’t play the table top game I was always drawn to their awesome blue and gold look, made even better when I decided to casually check out the lore and play the Space Marine video game I’ve come to love Captain Titus. I did make my Chaos Marine Alpha Legion though.
I love the Ultramarines!!! I love some other chapters more, but the Ultramarines have a special place in my heart. Well rounded, strong generalists are always useful.
Each chapters have their own struggle and that what makes great stories. Blood Angels struggle against their black rage gene flaw, Dark Angels struggle with their past, the Blood Raven to resist the urge to steal every catalytic converter in the near vicinity and for the Ultramarines, it's the struggle between the free thinkers of the chapter and their common rules. Outstanding figures like Captain Titus or Ventris have to fight not only against the enemies of the imperium but also against their chapter ruling to prove themselves right. It's also not easy to stay being the pain in ass of every one around like Cato Sicarius you know.
It does help that in any other fantasy, a good amount of time when you wanna show off protagonists, blue is the most common color uses in that aspect even in small forms. From blue human knights for World of Warcraft, blue light sabers for Star Wars. blue on clone trooper armor for the most part. there are definitely more examples but I can't really think of them right now.
A good friend of mine got me into Warhammer. Told me if I liked lore that you were the best. He's not here anymore. But Everytime you post a new video I play it start to finish. You and him have given me a hobby and stories to share with my children for years to come. From the bottom of my heart. Thank you majorkill!
someone from GW was asked about this one time, their answear was that they where the fastest and easiest to paint in large batches. sorry forgot to add this was from a painting perspective
Thrilling video as always @majorkill. Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc?
Ultramarines are great! Having a generalist army is perfect for casuals like myself who enjoy building and collecting a variety of models that aren’t too complicated to paint or use.
Hello Majorkill, Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
A few additions: 1) 2nd edition Codex Ultramarines called them the greatest space marines, and that snared at least one person, a buddy of mine; 2) Guilliman wrote the Codex Astartes, the text most chapters follow, and he was the one that broke up the loyalist legions; 3) the Ultramarines represented greater flexibility allowing players more freedom in canon to organize and play how they liked; 4) the Battle of Macragge allowed GW to put more emphasis on the Tyranids 5) the Ultramarines and their successors make up somewhere north of 90% of marines depending on whos writing, so making the Ultramarines poster boys is a near way for someone making a successor chapter to do their own thing with clear connection to the main protagonists. Counterpoint to those mentioned: blue and gold is the Heresy Ultramarines colour scheme, in 40k gold/yellow is meant for the 2nd Company alone, so GW kind of messed that one up by presenting all their marines as 2nd Company. It did make it easier to promote Cato Sicarius
Point to add to where you said how this is an easy colour scheme to work with, many youths here in Britain get into Warhammer. Especially in the summer holidays. Schools also promote clubs for it, scouts offer a badge in painting them, and kids can even use it to progress towards a Duke of Edinburgh award. Thus with small groups of kids at a time getting into the hobby, they often start Ultramarines together as a group as the shops propose this as a good option for beginners. More than once I've popped into the local shop and seen the kids on other days with their dads who have also got into collecting, painting and playing the Ultramarines with their sons as a way to bond more.
They're the Ryu/Ken of the game- an all-arounder without no glaring weaknesses so you can play with strategies before buying a more specific army. "I want an iron fist army but Im not sure the wall of guns is for me" then try it out with your Ultramarines, same with rip n tear armies, blitz armies, etc.
Hey @majorkill have you thought about releasing some terrain kits? Maybe for non imperial factions? I'd love to see your take on Tau or Eldar terrain pieces. And keep up the Emperor's work!
And they have the Ultramar Auxilia for us AM/IG players to enjoy and work our regimental and brigade unit "fluff" into wonderful backgrounds. Medium gray and medium blue makes for good uniform and armor color combinations too. 😊
I've been in the hobby for 20 years by now. I started way back in Edition 2. And really started with the Battle of Maccrage Box set. Ultramarines were the first Chapter i started with. Own about 1k points of Ultramarines, 1k points of Silver Skulls which are UM successor chaps and 20k points of Dark Angels when I started for a chapter that speaks to me. But no matter what everyone owns. Most started with the Blue Boys.
The fun part is that they're not popular, they're the most boring chapter so that's why they were getting so much staff piled on onto them to combat this that it overflowed into being comical. Ultramarines are intended as "default" marines with having highest numbers thanks to absorbing members of lost legions, having no mutations thus also no unique quirks, having their specialty being logistics and being the most basic in terms of doctrine as the Codex followed by other chapted was created by their daddy. So they were set up to be the most boring(not intentionally) as template(intentionally) for "your dudes". However a lot of people realized that boring is practical, practical is effective and effective is cool. So overtime people were slowly warming up to them which clashed with GW massive advert campaign for them which aimed to make them best at everything thus ruining uniqueness of others and the whole cool factor behind "boring marines".
I started with 2e and I went with Dark Angels for my 2nd army (went Chaos for my first army). Yeah, making the 1st Legion look good was difficult, but SOOOOO worth it, not just for game rules, but for how awesome they look en mass.
The annoying thing in 4th and 5th (when I stopped following) was that outside of a few models, the Smurfs got 5-8 special character models in the base codex.
Hey man enjoy your travels in Europe you deserve it dude! In one of your recent videos you starting mentioning what other 40k lore channels are doing and how their keeping up. I was wondering if you'd ever tackle some of the larger fan made projects like the Dornian Heresay in detail or what if you promoted s rethinking or fan made filling out of the some of the lesser used chapters that haven't seen the light of day in awhile. Guys like the Silver Skulls, Novamarines, Relictors, Rainbow Warriors, Marines Maleovolent, Mentor Legion.
Red (for blood angels) is also quite easy to paint, however it gets harder the more advanced you get at painting, since highlighting and using different shades of red is harder to do than blue since you have to avoid making lighter areas pink.
It's funny because I think that sanguineous been dead and very hard to justify bringing back could also be a factor for why blood angels are secondary poster boys but not the main ones
I think the blood angels would have been a good poster boy choice because of therye noble and heroic but have the black rage which makes them interesting and more human
Love your videos and the new hair gives off custodes vibes! Also I was hoping to see if you would do a video on how early Warhammer fantasy time period transitioned to the modern 40k universe I know at some point until retconning the 2 were kinda connected bc in fantasy they have laser weapon artifacts and other science stuff from old civilizations
I’ve never seen someone care this much about his audience and his channel that they would record a month’s worth of content before hand so that we would have something to watch while he is on vacation. This is why this is the best channel for 40k lore (and also minis nowadays :D) out there.
Another thing that the Smurfs have over others is the ease in which it is to kitbash them into something far more roman for their look. They also have an abundance of 3rd party bits all over the place, and after painting some Sons of Horus for Horus Heresy, I feel I need a palette cleanser which would do well with roman ultramarines. that is another good point actually, they can be a great palette cleanser for experienced painters or people who are still trying to get better at their paintjobs without having to sacrifice their own main boys.
I enjoyed the UM because of reading Uriel’s various adventures, and I think he’s a great ‘Everyman’ space marine, if such a thing exists, and it made the setting more accessible. Though, once I heard of the Blood Angels, it was over. I think GW is right to focus on them, like, narratively, they’re more interesting and they did a great job building Daunte and Mephiston’s characters.
Space Augustus (oddly working for Space Stalin) leading space Romans. Ultramarines were the first SM force I encountered as I cut my teeth on Chaos Gate 1998 edition. Hearing them righteously shout "The Emperor orders you to Die!" at heretic Word Bearers was thrilling. The G-man has become even more interesting in recent lore. DA, BA, IF are also great but the Ultramarines remain my sentimental favorite.
all those years ago, deciding what chapter i wanted to be as i felt spacemarines i could relate too in a hypothetical universe kinda way. just seeing this one artwork of the ultramarines i just was taken away, and felt like i wanted to be in that chapter, after all these years i'm still glad i wear that symbol on my shoulder, as i join my brothers in war
More reason to show upmost respect to the guy who showed up with decently painted White Scars chapter to play against. We need a tier list of which faction is easiest to hardest to paint them. I suspected the new Tyranid models are "simplified" due to how hard and insane to paint if they follow the original artwork years ago. So much spikes and jagged exoskeletons back then.
Dude, Majorkill, your Dark Angels look sick! I honestly gave up on the green scheme and just grabbed used terminators and painted them shades of tan and bone 😅
I think because Blue is the universal good guy colour, GW promoted the chapter that was blue for mass market appeal. The ease of painting was probably secondary; they don't need you to paint the minis to get rich, that's just cents on the dolkar
Someone who just built my first killteam phobos I chos the ultramarines because I really enjoyed gulliman and the legion after reading the dark imperium trilogy
Ultramarines have one thing the other legions really don't have without the Imperium's structure - logistics. They're the army that makes the most sense being an actual army, thus pushing them into being poster boys of this army-type game. The infantry is marked as following the book of infantry, they're generalist because they're written to be, characters actually feel like characters because they're not just s shiny troop, they're by-lore diplomats/mayors/presidents/public speakers/congress. You can easily say an Ultramarine Chaplain is the leader of a church or an Ultramarine Apothecary is a head doctor. That's who they're taught to be. Compare this with other chapters like the Raven Guard that while yes, a character is cool, they are just what their role says they are unless specified.
It's kind of funny. The Ultramarines are the poster boys yet I don't know anyone personally who actually runs them. I was thinking about running it before back in 4th edition but kept debating between them, Blood Angels, and Dark Angels. In the end I ran Blood Angels
They aren't the main chacraters of the Dawn of War series! Glad we got the Blood Raven for that. They're a neat chapter. With them being a suspected Thousand Son successor and all.
I think they're the poster chapter because in the early PC games their blue colour scheme made them stand out and especially in the original Chaos Gate where they clashed well against the red of the Word Bearers enemies. Ultramarines were also kind of the default for newer players all the way back in 3rd, people new to the hobby where mostly likely to start with Marines and most often Ultramarines.
The main reason the Ultramarines are the default legion is because Guilliman wrote the Codex Astartes; the primary battle doctrine that standardizes how space marines fight. Chapters that adhere closely to the codex are codex chapters, with the implication that all non-codex chapters are in some way eccentric or specialized.
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Wed love to see your take on 30k primarchs taking Guilimans role in 40k
How would every primarch run ultramare
There's a decent chance the Imperium would have collapsed if it had been any of them but Guiliman.
@maltheri9833except the imperium was about to collapse before Guilliman woke up lmao, if it werent for him, humanity would've been, most likely, annihilated by now
@maltheri9833 War of the beast was mid-32nd millennium, the imperium wasnt nearly as degenerate as in 40k
Thank you brother for continuing the crusade, we are nearing our time of rest, it's almost here
I'll add that Bobby G also wanted his marines to be useful and have a job after the crusade, so wanting your sons to have a peacetime job skill is a point in their favor. Someone has to do the paperwork, why not the big blueberry that can do it ultra fast and ultra good so we can all hit the bar after with our bestest file clerk who can drink us all under but cause space marine biology hacks can serve as the driver as well to get our drunk asses home.
I read this with the voice of majorkill lmao.
The idea of getting to have a space marine on the jobsite or the back forty for a day makes the "good guy" chapters interesting creatively in a way the more callus ones can't be, IMO anyway.
Bobby G is not my lover, he's just a Primarch who thought I was the one.
Would be more like "manage and delegate the fuck out of menial shit like this to their actual menials/serfs/servitors while they save the big brain shit for their transhuman big brains" but yeah more or less
They're the best because Guilliman said "Oh you're gonna shoot at me?", and went to show Lorgar what it was like to be on the receiving end of what Lorgar would do to kids.
Gal Vorbak: oh, you’re approaching us?
Gorrilaman: I can’t beat the shit out of you without getting closer
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The matt ward thing is actually gw mostly throwing him under the bus.
Around 4th Ed gw decided that , due to their glut of special characters, Ultramarines would get their own codex. They tasked matt ward to write it and so he did, only for last minute gw to decide that the codex needed to be the generic space marine codex.
Hence it seemed like Ultramarines were getting special attention in the art and lore of the space marine book.
(The grey knights were all him tho)
At least he gave us Trollzyn.
Even in being defenestrated from the writing room, the damage he caused lingers to this day.
I liked the Ultramarines initially and was starting to consider picking a different faction like the Black Templars. But then I got Boltgun. Malum Caedo has cemented the Ultramarines as my favorite legion.
A son of Gulliman knows only war!
One reason no one seems to have picked up is that Guilliman wrote the codex astartes which serves as the blueprint for all loyalist chapters. So essentially they are the template for space marines in the 40k setting
So gman reinforced the blood angels with primaris marines right and when lion meets Dante he seems sad there are only 1000 blood angels but at the same time thinks to himself what I could accomplish with just that 1000 he seems to understand the codex more it's usefulness I found that neat guilliman is leading the empire and the lion has his full legion guilliman 100 000 unnumbered sons
Very clever answer
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They have a nice color scheme, their ornamentation looks cool and they are decent at pretty much everything. Yes, they are the very definition of convention and perhaps a bit dry compared to other chapters, but you need someone to set a benchmark so that everyone else can deviate a bit and thus become cooler. (Looking at you Dark Angels, Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Black Templars, Grey Knights).
It's tough being Superman (who is also blue) but you're sure glad when he shows up to a crisis situation. Same with the Ultramarines - they don't necessarily grab my attention but I wouldn't say no to their help in a warzone.
My first exposure to them was playing the Space Marine game, and one thing that always stuck with me was how Titus talked to and commented on the guardsmen.
When they bowed to him he answered with "rise guardsman, you saved yourselves" and when he sees the current state of affairs he says "remarkable, a few hundred against a million orks, and they fight on".
I really like how he genuinely appreciates the effort the guardsmen put in and treat them with respect.
Ultramarines have always been my favorite chapter/legion. I love the Roman aesthetic and the fact that they're genuinely heroic and good people, even if they are a bit uptight. Of course they'll never be as heroic and nice as the Salamanders but hey, nobody else will ever be at that level lol. I also think it's nice to see Guilliman, a Primarch with common sense, run things.
Plus it's gotta be nice for Imperial citizens and even other Space Marine or Guardsmen groups seeing the Ultramarines show up. Knowing that not only are you getting more Space Marines, but also good battle tactics, supply lines and a food supply. And at the end of the day, someone has to be the poster boys. It might as well be the space Romans
I like the contrast they give to more specialized chapters like White Scars or Raven Guard, I can imagine something like an Ultramarines main force with Scars harrying the enemy flanks for them to be an absolute nightmare
Many situations throughout the great crusade had different legions working side by side on the battlefield for exactly that purpose. Let them all get to know and build bonds with their cousins, while diversifying and strengthening potential tactics with everyone's different specialities.
They are one of the few groups in the setting that are not total dicks and are genuinely heroic. So much so that we root for them and want them to succeed.
Nah you’re just new to the fandom. We hate them, they are literally the “I’m perfect so I win all the time” faction of boring “infinity +1” kids
This exactly.
Ventris and Calgar care and do their best to protect humanity in their novels.
So does Guilliman too and he reminds other SM that they were made to serve humanity and not the other way
Exactly if I ran into an ultramarine during my morning walk I’m much more likely to say hello and get a Hi back
I thought people didn't like that sort of stuff in 40k.
@@Tacoguy1000 I think it's more that people like playing the villain, but that doesn't stop heroism being cool too. Would be kinda boring to be pure asshole against pure asshole, instead of what we have in pure asshole against kinda asshole.
I'm a Black Templars fan and player, but I've come to appreciate the Ultramarines a lot more than I ever did.
I never disliked them, but they just seemed like the default bland space marines. But reading books like Know no Fear, Dark Imperium, and the Sicarius omnibus really made me like them a lot. Their style, that Roman aesthetic, their lore, it's all great. Guilliman is probably my favorite Primarch as well.
well there is also the fact that the Word Bearers are their direct rival wich makes boxes like the "betrayal at calth" a litteral red Vs. blue scenario, the classic struggle.
I think their lore is also the easiest for people to get into and understand. Great to lure in new players who want to learn more, before going into the more edgy lore
Also the most "welcoming" idk if that makes sense, I myself love the blood angels but if my first introduction to 40k lore was "those guys drink blood and become crazy in the middle of battle, and they're the good guys" if would never habe gotten into warhammer. Ultramarines are more "hero-like" if that makes sense.
"All the legions have cool lore! The Ultramarines are Roman, the White Scars ride bikes, the Iron Warriors have a demonculaba, etc!
@@cernunnos8344 Personally my introduction to the setting was nurgle/the death guard and I fell in love instantly.
@@ose4448 I mean yeah I guess you can also be weird like that
@@cernunnos8344Why is that weird?
Guilidad is like the ONE guy in the whole Galaxy who's switched on enough to try and unfuck it. Makes ya wanna root for him.
Same with the Ultramarines. Kinda like the Salamanders they're one of the few Space Marine chapters that aren't completely terrible and will go out of their way to fight for common humanity.
Grimdark is what makes 40k great, but when there's a handful of kinda sorta good guys to root for, it serves to highlight just how horrible everything else is.
I think they're a cool faction, overrepresented maybe, but definitely underapprecaited. Besides space Rome is literally like the most badass thing ever.
My favourite chapter are Blood Angels, and before you ask, YES I am gay for papa Sanguinius. That being said, i've never understood why they got hate that they did. They are good chapter for new people that are getting into 40k universe, esepcially lore wise, because like MK said people might be put off by some different chapter, like mine with that vampire/cannibalsm phase.
@@ЖИЛЕ94 There's also the melee focus Blood Angels tend to have, plus the suicide troops. Which is all cool but it might push new players into a box more than some other legions.
I prefer the White Scars. Partially because Jaghatai delivered some sick burns and was quite literally the only Primarch to notice from the start that the Emperor was a massive asshole on his own (Angron did notice, but that's to be expected considering that he was kidnapped and all of his friends were left to die), partially because they actually ACT like they really are space Mongols both militarily and culturally. Unlike the Ultramarines (aside from a book that they mostly treat like gospel when it was supposed to just be a collection of guidelines, when was the last time you've seen them do anything brilliant in both tactics and formations?) or the Space Wolves (if they're space Vikings, I'm CS Goto).
As for the Ultramarines being underappreciated, they're lucky they weren't subject to anywhere NEAR a millionth of the crap the Lamenters deal with regularly after everything Matt Ward did to 40K.
@theredditexperience1 they are good when measured on imperial truth 😅 not current standards
Captain Titus even Leandros made me love Ultramarines
Just waiting for the video about how each pre heresy primarch would react to being in guillimans situation as imperial regent :) im really hoping one of those long form videos is this bad boy ....
Keep at it
THE CRUSADE NEVER ENDS!!
dudes dedicated
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I love Roman history and motifs. Blue and gold looks sick. Their heroes are awesome. My heart is Imperial Fist/Black Templars 🖤 🤍 💛
They’re more Greek with the omega sign I’d hazard a guess
@@lewishorsman2219 However their lore makes them more practical-minded and efficient, just like Romans at their prime
Greco-Roman. Ave Caesar!!
Video Idea: What could Guilliman's and other Primarch's hidden Warp powers possibly be? With the Lion recently gaining his Forest Walk ability its clear that they probably all have warp powers, or at least the uncorrupted Primarchs do.
I mean Ultra Marines are the best. Mad props for the game Shootas, Blood, and Teef going with the White Scars for their Space Marine antagonist.
They are not the best, the are the most forced by games workshop. They are the marry sue of 40k
The Word Bearers are the best.
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@minuette1752 the Word Bearers are a boring army of darkness who does grim dark things just for edge. The biggest hypocrites in the setting who go on and on about the importance of truth only to be wholly in it for themselves cause they are bigger chaos sluts the The Emperors Children.
@@minuette1752 Ok jimmy savile, get back in yer hole.
Great video! There's two other in-lore reasons: First is that Guilliman authored and championed the Codex Astartes.
Second is the Ultramarines - though nearly broken at Calth - still emerged from the Heresy as the largest surviving Legion.
This meant it created the most successor chapters, and had the largest stocks of gene-seed to make more. Two-thirds of Chapters are Ultramarine successors for that reason!
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"I, CATO SICARIUS, AM HONORED TO BE ON MAJORKILL'S THUMBNAIL! FOR I, CATO SICARIUS, AM THE GREATEST ULTRAMARINE EVER!" - Cato Sicarius said calmly.
Because of CATO SICARIUS, THE MOST AMAZING CATO SICARIUS THAT EVER EXISTED IN THE HISTORY OF THE CATO SICARIUS
I'll give you a like, honestly though this meme is like morbin time, it's getting irritating sometimes.
The ultra smurfs are my 2nd favorite faction, after the toaster bois. It's the scene of robot girlymans resurrection that did that for me.
Answers simple: most relatable. If the introductory army to your franchise is the easiest to get into it attracts more people.
Every other chapter/legion or faction is a niche based on the person who likes them. If you introduce someone to a simple and basic army like the Ultramarines it gives people to opportunity to branch out not just in the hobby but lore as well
I still remember the Crimson Fists and Black Templars being the main Space Marine chapters everyone knew as a kid. It is interesting how much the Ultramarines have surpassed them.
Crimson fist fanboy here. It’s my first and currently only army
@@SADmemer.yeah, they were the face of the Space Marines for me as well. They still remain one of my favorites just by aesthetic alone.
I’ve been into warhammer since the rogue trader days and I remember the crimson fists were the poster boys in the beginning and blood angels were a close second. I went with ultramarines to be different back then. A few years later and man things had changed.
I like the Ultramarines, they're versatile, they got a cool Roman theme going on, and they were my introduction to WH40K thanks to Space Marine.
Glad to see you covering the very practical reasons like easier photography and paint coverage. These are HUGE logistical design decisions that are honestly pretty smart for GW.
These guys are my favorite because of their blue color (favorite color), and while I don’t play the table top game I was always drawn to their awesome blue and gold look, made even better when I decided to casually check out the lore and play the Space Marine video game I’ve come to love Captain Titus. I did make my Chaos Marine Alpha Legion though.
The blue boys are just too iconic
I love the Ultramarines!!! I love some other chapters more, but the Ultramarines have a special place in my heart. Well rounded, strong generalists are always useful.
Each chapters have their own struggle and that what makes great stories. Blood Angels struggle against their black rage gene flaw, Dark Angels struggle with their past, the Blood Raven to resist the urge to steal every catalytic converter in the near vicinity and for the Ultramarines, it's the struggle between the free thinkers of the chapter and their common rules. Outstanding figures like Captain Titus or Ventris have to fight not only against the enemies of the imperium but also against their chapter ruling to prove themselves right. It's also not easy to stay being the pain in ass of every one around like Cato Sicarius you know.
True true,i got started with ultramarines more or less cuz i really liked their nice paint scheme and look 6:20
It does help that in any other fantasy, a good amount of time when you wanna show off protagonists, blue is the most common color uses in that aspect even in small forms. From blue human knights for World of Warcraft, blue light sabers for Star Wars. blue on clone trooper armor for the most part. there are definitely more examples but I can't really think of them right now.
A good friend of mine got me into Warhammer. Told me if I liked lore that you were the best. He's not here anymore. But Everytime you post a new video I play it start to finish. You and him have given me a hobby and stories to share with my children for years to come. From the bottom of my heart. Thank you majorkill!
someone from GW was asked about this one time, their answear was that they where the fastest and easiest to paint in large batches. sorry forgot to add this was from a painting perspective
We march for MACRAGGE!
And we shall know no fear...!
Courage and honour, friend.
Thrilling video as always @majorkill.
Could you make a video dedicated to the Navigators, the major houses, their politics, relation to the overall Imperium and factions, etc?
Ultramarines are great! Having a generalist army is perfect for casuals like myself who enjoy building and collecting a variety of models that aren’t too complicated to paint or use.
Before the Uriel Ventris anthologies, I laughed at the Smurfs too. Now I respect Guilliman's sons.
Lots of love from Portugal, hope you like it here
Hello Majorkill,
Would you please make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? Pretty please? Thank you.
you deserve that month break, your subscribers will be here.
insane work ethic bro, we appreciate you.
A few additions:
1) 2nd edition Codex Ultramarines called them the greatest space marines, and that snared at least one person, a buddy of mine;
2) Guilliman wrote the Codex Astartes, the text most chapters follow, and he was the one that broke up the loyalist legions;
3) the Ultramarines represented greater flexibility allowing players more freedom in canon to organize and play how they liked;
4) the Battle of Macragge allowed GW to put more emphasis on the Tyranids
5) the Ultramarines and their successors make up somewhere north of 90% of marines depending on whos writing, so making the Ultramarines poster boys is a near way for someone making a successor chapter to do their own thing with clear connection to the main protagonists.
Counterpoint to those mentioned: blue and gold is the Heresy Ultramarines colour scheme, in 40k gold/yellow is meant for the 2nd Company alone, so GW kind of messed that one up by presenting all their marines as 2nd Company. It did make it easier to promote Cato Sicarius
Point to add to where you said how this is an easy colour scheme to work with, many youths here in Britain get into Warhammer. Especially in the summer holidays. Schools also promote clubs for it, scouts offer a badge in painting them, and kids can even use it to progress towards a Duke of Edinburgh award.
Thus with small groups of kids at a time getting into the hobby, they often start Ultramarines together as a group as the shops propose this as a good option for beginners. More than once I've popped into the local shop and seen the kids on other days with their dads who have also got into collecting, painting and playing the Ultramarines with their sons as a way to bond more.
@majorkill I've been watching the channel for a while and it's good to see your hard work and passion paying off. Enjoy your vacation.
Hope you enjoy your trip! Also that highlighting you did actually looks pretty sick just so you know.
They're the Ryu/Ken of the game- an all-arounder without no glaring weaknesses so you can play with strategies before buying a more specific army. "I want an iron fist army but Im not sure the wall of guns is for me" then try it out with your Ultramarines, same with rip n tear armies, blitz armies, etc.
Lmao, the ramp up in aggression when you started talking about painting your models
Gorillaman and his smurfs are like the last vestige of hope in a dark empire and galaxy. Also Ultramarines best marines!
Hey @majorkill have you thought about releasing some terrain kits? Maybe for non imperial factions? I'd love to see your take on Tau or Eldar terrain pieces. And keep up the Emperor's work!
And they have the Ultramar Auxilia for us AM/IG players to enjoy and work our regimental and brigade unit "fluff" into wonderful backgrounds. Medium gray and medium blue makes for good uniform and armor color combinations too. 😊
Part 13 of asking majorkill to do a commissar cain cosplay
Majorkill plz do a history video of garviel loken
I've been in the hobby for 20 years by now. I started way back in Edition 2. And really started with the Battle of Maccrage Box set. Ultramarines were the first Chapter i started with. Own about 1k points of Ultramarines, 1k points of Silver Skulls which are UM successor chaps and 20k points of Dark Angels when I started for a chapter that speaks to me. But no matter what everyone owns. Most started with the Blue Boys.
Woooo Majorkill is coming to Portugal again! You're always welcome here mate
The fun part is that they're not popular, they're the most boring chapter so that's why they were getting so much staff piled on onto them to combat this that it overflowed into being comical.
Ultramarines are intended as "default" marines with having highest numbers thanks to absorbing members of lost legions, having no mutations thus also no unique quirks, having their specialty being logistics and being the most basic in terms of doctrine as the Codex followed by other chapted was created by their daddy. So they were set up to be the most boring(not intentionally) as template(intentionally) for "your dudes".
However a lot of people realized that boring is practical, practical is effective and effective is cool. So overtime people were slowly warming up to them which clashed with GW massive advert campaign for them which aimed to make them best at everything thus ruining uniqueness of others and the whole cool factor behind "boring marines".
I started with 2e and I went with Dark Angels for my 2nd army (went Chaos for my first army). Yeah, making the 1st Legion look good was difficult, but SOOOOO worth it, not just for game rules, but for how awesome they look en mass.
Never though of any of this as to why the smurfs were so popular, great vid, thank you
Love to see tha Major coming to my homeland. Where the meet and greet at?
keep up the good work brother, i literally check everyday for your new video. Have a great vacation stay safe
The annoying thing in 4th and 5th (when I stopped following) was that outside of a few models, the Smurfs got 5-8 special character models in the base codex.
Hey man enjoy your travels in Europe you deserve it dude! In one of your recent videos you starting mentioning what other 40k lore channels are doing and how their keeping up. I was wondering if you'd ever tackle some of the larger fan made projects like the Dornian Heresay in detail or what if you promoted s rethinking or fan made filling out of the some of the lesser used chapters that haven't seen the light of day in awhile. Guys like the Silver Skulls, Novamarines, Relictors, Rainbow Warriors, Marines Maleovolent, Mentor Legion.
Red (for blood angels) is also quite easy to paint, however it gets harder the more advanced you get at painting, since highlighting and using different shades of red is harder to do than blue since you have to avoid making lighter areas pink.
It's funny because I think that sanguineous been dead and very hard to justify bringing back could also be a factor for why blood angels are secondary poster boys but not the main ones
I've now bought the table scale Big E! After years of not supporting your channel, I'm now better than everyone else.
I think the blood angels would have been a good poster boy choice because of therye noble and heroic but have the black rage which makes them interesting and more human
Love your videos and the new hair gives off custodes vibes! Also I was hoping to see if you would do a video on how early Warhammer fantasy time period transitioned to the modern 40k universe I know at some point until retconning the 2 were kinda connected bc in fantasy they have laser weapon artifacts and other science stuff from old civilizations
I’ve never seen someone care this much about his audience and his channel that they would record a month’s worth of content before hand so that we would have something to watch while he is on vacation. This is why this is the best channel for 40k lore (and also minis nowadays :D) out there.
Another thing that the Smurfs have over others is the ease in which it is to kitbash them into something far more roman for their look. They also have an abundance of 3rd party bits all over the place, and after painting some Sons of Horus for Horus Heresy, I feel I need a palette cleanser which would do well with roman ultramarines.
that is another good point actually, they can be a great palette cleanser for experienced painters or people who are still trying to get better at their paintjobs without having to sacrifice their own main boys.
Australian Johnny Bravo continuing to do the Emperor’s work
I enjoyed the UM because of reading Uriel’s various adventures, and I think he’s a great ‘Everyman’ space marine, if such a thing exists, and it made the setting more accessible.
Though, once I heard of the Blood Angels, it was over. I think GW is right to focus on them, like, narratively, they’re more interesting and they did a great job building Daunte and Mephiston’s characters.
Space Augustus (oddly working for Space Stalin) leading space Romans. Ultramarines were the first SM force I encountered as I cut my teeth on Chaos Gate 1998 edition. Hearing them righteously shout "The Emperor orders you to Die!" at heretic Word Bearers was thrilling. The G-man has become even more interesting in recent lore. DA, BA, IF are also great but the Ultramarines remain my sentimental favorite.
i get it now, the strain of making a month backlog of videos pushed majorkill far enough that he went super saiyan halfway through the process
all those years ago, deciding what chapter i wanted to be as i felt spacemarines i could relate too in a hypothetical universe kinda way. just seeing this one artwork of the ultramarines i just was taken away, and felt like i wanted to be in that chapter, after all these years i'm still glad i wear that symbol on my shoulder, as i join my brothers in war
More reason to show upmost respect to the guy who showed up with decently painted White Scars chapter to play against. We need a tier list of which faction is easiest to hardest to paint them. I suspected the new Tyranid models are "simplified" due to how hard and insane to paint if they follow the original artwork years ago. So much spikes and jagged exoskeletons back then.
They're just cool. They caught my attention before I even knew about game mechanics, primarchs, etc. Just the name, the color scheme and the sign.
Dude, Majorkill, your Dark Angels look sick! I honestly gave up on the green scheme and just grabbed used terminators and painted them shades of tan and bone 😅
it was the easiest insignia to paint when Rogue Trader came out
Love the vids majorkill keep up the good work you absolute mad lad 😁
I think because Blue is the universal good guy colour, GW promoted the chapter that was blue for mass market appeal. The ease of painting was probably secondary; they don't need you to paint the minis to get rich, that's just cents on the dolkar
Someone who just built my first killteam phobos I chos the ultramarines because I really enjoyed gulliman and the legion after reading the dark imperium trilogy
Aye thanks for the video release mate
Brooooo do a video on the exalted eightbound! There’s actually a fair amount of cool lore in those hidden gems!
Ultramarines have one thing the other legions really don't have without the Imperium's structure - logistics. They're the army that makes the most sense being an actual army, thus pushing them into being poster boys of this army-type game. The infantry is marked as following the book of infantry, they're generalist because they're written to be, characters actually feel like characters because they're not just s shiny troop, they're by-lore diplomats/mayors/presidents/public speakers/congress. You can easily say an Ultramarine Chaplain is the leader of a church or an Ultramarine Apothecary is a head doctor. That's who they're taught to be.
Compare this with other chapters like the Raven Guard that while yes, a character is cool, they are just what their role says they are unless specified.
It's kind of funny. The Ultramarines are the poster boys yet I don't know anyone personally who actually runs them. I was thinking about running it before back in 4th edition but kept debating between them, Blood Angels, and Dark Angels. In the end I ran Blood Angels
Oshit, you're randomly coming to my country. That's neat, hope it'll be enjoyable.
Would definitely like to bump into this above 0% chance, hope you would have good time in Yurop!
Gulliman and the Ultramarines: *_I'm blue, dabba dee dabba die, dabba dee dabba die_*
Counterpoint to blue being easy to paint: gray and metalic colors. Both lend themselves really well to layered drybrushing and washes.
They aren't the main chacraters of the Dawn of War series! Glad we got the Blood Raven for that. They're a neat chapter. With them being a suspected Thousand Son successor and all.
Ultramarines are one of the few good guys in the setting that most people root for like the salamanders. They where my first table top army too.
This is gonna be Smurftastic
Blue seems like a really good color for beginners and also a really difficult color to burn with lasers, like in Hawaii
I think they're the poster chapter because in the early PC games their blue colour scheme made them stand out and especially in the original Chaos Gate where they clashed well against the red of the Word Bearers enemies.
Ultramarines were also kind of the default for newer players all the way back in 3rd, people new to the hobby where mostly likely to start with Marines and most often Ultramarines.
The main reason the Ultramarines are the default legion is because Guilliman wrote the Codex Astartes; the primary battle doctrine that standardizes how space marines fight. Chapters that adhere closely to the codex are codex chapters, with the implication that all non-codex chapters are in some way eccentric or specialized.
Video Idea: What was the Emperor doing during the Dark Age of Technology?
Safe trip, dude!
Happy holiday, MK!
Paint and pictures was a great point to make.