The Nord Stream Bombing: Jeremy Scahill on Why U.S. Remains Most Likely Culprit in Pipeline Sabotage
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2023
- Questions continue to swirl about how Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 were damaged last year, with U.S. officials maintaining they had no role in the sabotage of the pair of Russian pipelines supplying natural gas to Europe. Journalist Jeremy Scahill, senior correspondent for The Intercept, says the Biden administration remains the most obvious suspect, even as new reporting in the U.S. and Europe has suggested possible alternatives.
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Repeal the Patriot Act. The executive branch must be trimmed.
And the secret police state, aka DHS
100% agree.
Because Congress and the SC are doing such a great job?
@@user-ti3vp9mt3z And the CIA. In fact repeal the 1947 National Security Act!
@@bbirda1287 No, because we want our republic back.
From a monetary standpoint, why would Russia destroy its own pipeline?
NS1 and 2 didn't work anyways, Germany stopped NS2 and russia stopped NS1, Europe tried to cut gas dependency itself, so US didn't really need this diversion. On the other hand Russia wanted to teach Europe a lesson but they would need to pay for contract breach, and if US blew NS then Russia doesn't need to pay and can get insurance, It's deeper than you think.
@@hentaisenpai3534 dude I could drive a truck through the holes in your logic. I beg you, read history.
@@bukem203 Do you destroy your kitchen sink when going on vacation?
@@hentaisenpai3534 Why is Russia pushing for an investigation and the US is not?
Underrated question really . For Russia to stop delivering Gas had it been puring through NS2 at the time, all they needed to do is close supply on their side .
Recent News:
Russia brings down US Drone - World goes nuts!
US brings down Chinese Spy Balloon - Yayyy
US Blows up pipeline feeding Europe gas - crickets
100%
Correction: US blows up the pipeline that's feeding the russian oligarchs and cucking Europe. I will sooner be a frozen corpse than see my country trade with Russia again.
Call out your own government for it's hypocrisy. your labeled a traitor.
😂 and it's true for sure
Well, the Chinese Ballon is in US soil, the US drone is in open space. So get your information correct.
Again....this is a crime where the chief suspect and the one with the most motive called for the crime to be done before it was carried out and CELEBRATED after the crime and openly said the crime was a "tremendous opportunity." There shouldn't really be doubt or confusion about this.
Nuremberg trials vs this just teaches the savvy: The only thing that generates and sustains reality is POWER. They are powerful enough to compartmentalize and confuse, but for how long. How much will Americans like you suffer when it gets to that point (2025ish by my guesstimate).
What is the US motive for bombing Nordstream 2? I'm not saying the US did not do it, but frankly it doesn't make sense that they would do it either. I'm not saying Russia did it, either, but there economic motives for them to have done it.
The one that makes least sense is that this was a Ukrainian Op as the risk to their support from The West would be blown apart if they were exposed.
@@christophercousins184 The US motive was to take over the sale of natural gas to Europe from Russia which they have done and at 4 times the price. I prefer to believe the idiot who literally promised he’d do it.. Biden.
@@christophercousins184 Neither did it make sense for America to attack Iraq over World Trade Center attack carried out by Osama Bin Laden terrorists. But they did.
Placed in historical context it makes perfect sense. The entire point is to punch someone, anyone, when the US administration is losing.
@@christophercousins184 The United States itself has voiced these motives many times and it was the United States that sabotaged and hindered the implementation of this project in every possible way. The United States imposed sanctions on all contractors and builders who participated in the construction. Therefore, Russia completed the gas pipeline alone. The US has announced that any insurance company that insures the pipeline will automatically be penalized. The first reason is to tear off and divide Europe and Russia, it is done. The second reason is to deprive Russia of income for the sake of weakening Russia. The third reason is that now the United States sells its own gas to Europe and makes good money on it, that is, they got rid of a competitor in such a dirty way. The fourth reason is the weakening of Europe as an economic competitor...
The biggest stupidity that can be heard is that Russia had motives and even more so it was beneficial to Russia...
Just follow the money. It's not even hard to connect the dots on "who done it"
Any number of possibilities… Probably not Russia
Considering that the Russian Nord Stream 1 and 2 blew up on the exact same day Norway's new gas pipeline to Poland was opened and went online, Poland should probably be the prime suspect, no longer being in need of Russian gas and knowing how Poland hate Russia and how little they also care about Germany due to past history, but strangely they are not even being mentioned as a suspect at all.
united states is getting 4 times as much for its oil from its nato allies nice friend that states is
Imagine if America suffered a blow like that against Russia/Germany/Europe's pipeline, and then America was told that they had no right to investigate? (Yes, US/Nato intend to exclude Russia on that.) Am 68 and America's ignorance, greed, arrogance and stupidity have never seemed worse. Consider the US since 1950s, that's saying a lot.
Russia can do all the investigation they want. They are just not part of the already existing one and neither is America.
I am 72 remember everything what the politics since 1960. Info junkie
It happened in the waters that are under jurisdiction and monitored by Sweden and Denmark only. So long as the 3 separate investigations by Sweden, Denmark and Germany are still ongoing, the Prosecution Authorities are not able to comment on the progress, and an independent investigation by the UN would require a mandate from a UN legislative body, which they do not have, and this you can not blame neither Sweden or Denmark for. The USA are not involved in any kind of investigation and neither is Russia because they are among the suspects.
@@agffans5725 Yeah and so far the US says it was probably a little yacht full of unknown rogues carrying a ton of explosives and 2 diving decompression chambers. All those EU countries mostly function as US vassals and Sweden's investigation is done, why stay silent with findings? Why isn't Germany complaining about the US (most likely) attack? Don't worry, the truth will out sooner than later. Nato is finished, thank God.
@@agffans5725
But at least for now sweden - who also removed a lot of evidence from the blast site on their first diving visit - refuses to cooperate with the authorities in germany and denmark.
Both governements asked to get access to the investigation officially and where flatly turned down for reasons of "national security".
We´ll see how that goes on, but imagine one police authority packing up scores of evidence and then refuse any other involved groups to see them or share its findings.
Its sus af.
US: We are going to END the Nord Stream Pipelines.
Sep 2022: Pipelines ended.
US: Russia did it. Nevermind, Ukraine did it.
We don't need no stinking investigation.
Seymour Hersh only claimed one source, who happened to be omniscient. Just saying.
What does Sy Hersh's article have to do with what senior government officials said about ending Nord Stream?
Yeah sure. First you announce your super secret plan to the world, then you wait several months until it doesn't even make sense anymore, then you leave one of the pipes intact. Sure. Sounds legit.
@@16252 There is another whistleblower , from the Baltops exercises . He spoke soon after the explosions to JMD
The US motive and the reason for this war was to take over the sale of natural gas to Europe from Russia which they have done and at 4 times the price. I prefer to believe the idiot who literally promised he’d do it.. Biden.
The U.S.’s denying of culpability is a lesson in gaslighting.
The United States has always been against the pipeline. Always. Wy would they let an upprtunaty go by to sabotage the pipeline when the uppertunaty precent itself
You don't know what gaslighting is, and you certainly don't know what evidence is.
The thing is, there is no evidence!
So as for now, we don' t know anything.
It is so amazing to me that my family can't see what is SO obvious! They still think Russia blew up their own pipeline!
@@sweetpea1662 That's because your family are more intelligent than you. It's not obvious at all and there exactly zero evidence for Hersh's story, but conclusive evidence against its specifics.
Criminals posing as leaders..
This is new how? Every last God damned one of them has been. Full stop.
@@NinjaGrrrl7734 What's new is, now we are attacking our ALLIES..blowing up their infrastructure.
You mean Gangsters Not leaders. 😮😮😮
Exactly, and considering how,, they were promoted, paced and propped up into office, is it any wonder? Not at all.!!
I hope the same level of scrutiny is given to the American version of' 'Who Blew Up the Pipeline" as being given to the report by Seymour Hersh. It might be of interest to readers to view a video of Biden saying "if Russia invades Ukraine there will be no Nordstream 2 pipeline". What more is needed to know that America was involved with the bombing?
Far out gaslighting - they desparately tried but of cause it does not work
Biden doesn't remember saying that.
Biden doesn't remember how to put on his trousers without the assistance of two nurses.
It's like Biden's word had become "how is he so confident that its going to happen". When it did, eyeballs are on US like "how do you know so much".
His reckless big mouth gave away…
Where's the source/video/audio? Please link to it. Don't force everyone who's actually trying to follow up on your statement to waste time searching it (1 search vs. N searches).
All Russia had to do is shut off the taps which it did. There is absolutely no logical reason why Russia would blow up its own pipeline.
In 2006, Russia blew up its own gas and electrical supply lines to Georgia right in the middle of a particularly cold winter. So, yes, Russia has done this sort of thing before.
They can also cry "we're victims" to the fools who trust whatever they say.
Thus gaining justification to attack someone in retaliation.
Out of Russia and USA which one is trespassing on the wrong side of the planet again ?
Yep. 'Muricah! Always.
Ask a Native American that question and the answer gets even worse
The story about a pro-ukrainian group taking out the pipelines is the intelligence agencies equivalent of the dog ate my homework.
Or the equivalent (known from Mafia movies and TV series ) of "2 Black guys did it".
rhe US IS pro Ukranian... unless you know whats gonna happen because we encouraged and supported their independence (gonna end bad or Ukraine) from Russia, which , if you are not too stupid, would be the same as Russia helping TEXAS succeed from the US.
Correct. No one in a right frame of mind would or should believe any information out of USA establishment and their Fake propaganda News machine.
Putin did it himself on a surfboard with a snorkel.....he just hates freedom that way.
Even Putin called it “nonsense” that a small boat with a team that doesn’t have any means to carry out a deep dive that required sophisticated equipment could carry out that attack.
Yeah, sure. If PooTin says so, it must be irrefutably true. We all know that this man has never lied to anyone. As true as the earth is flat. And no American has ever been on the moon. I swear!
Well Putin says a lot of things, like any being of power. Much like, he also said, "Kyiv will fall within 72 hours", and "We won't occupy Ukraine". People also thought Ukraine would never be able to strike the Crimean bridge. Regardless, the truth is, that the pipeline was 262 feet. The deepest open circuit dive was 1,090 ft. Open circuit regulators cost from $200 - $5,000, that being said, anyone and their mother with sufficient understanding of how and where to dive coupled with enough powdered aluminum could of pulled this sabotage off. People scapegoat the US because they can't explain it, and speculating the motives and the means isn't sufficient evidence either, not that it has ever stopped anyone. But you do you.
@@remixsparten98 The US is the prime suspect to have carried this out , or helped to carry it out . My take on this , a submarine . And let's face it , since the 50's , it is the US that created the most wars or showed up somewhere on the planet even if necessary with false information before the UN council of weapons of mass destruction . If there are no wars for the US , the weaponindustry falls flat on its belly . Hell , yeah , maybe they can arm all schoolteachers in order to prevent all those killings at the schools . You just have to wonder who makes money on this or any other war , or who benifits with the blowup of this pipeline : the US because now they deliver gas to Europe but 4x the price payed in the US .
@@remixsparten98 the argument mentioned against the small boat theory isn't regarding the price of diving, its how much equipment would need to be brought with them and how much space that would require. Either a diving bell w/ a tether to surface support (ie saturation diving), or a bunch of bottles of air/gas mix. The point was that it takes a lot of time to decompress after going to the bottom, and that requires a lot of air tanks or a sat diving setup. A regulator is just the part that attaches to your mouth, and they if they were trying to save space they would probably use rebreathers.
I'm not commenting on if who dunnit bc it's still a whodunnit imo. We just have suspects, some better than others.
@@remixsparten98 You come off as an ignorant tool.
Biden actually said “we have ways of putting an end to it” Democracy Now is so far behind it’s embarrassing.
Ok, but what is your interpretation of these words?
@@classwarnow8987 Thanks. I have the same opinion. I guess I mistranslated the addendum "Democracy Now is so far behind it's embarrassing", so it wasn't clear to me what it meant.
The US motive to blow it and the real reason behind this war was to take over the sale of natural gas to Europe from Russia which they have done and at 4 times the price. I prefer to believe the idiot who literally promised he’d do it.. Biden.
The are a commie outlet, maybe this influences their outlook? Just sayin'
Biden, kept his promise that we have ways of putting an end to it, and he did --- through diplomatic and economic and security pressures with our major allies in NATO. NOWHERE DOES IT MAKE ANY SENSE for the US to act unilaterally in Europe's backyard to destroy a domestic asset owned by one of our largest allies against their interests. NOWHERE ! It was totally uneccesary for the US to do it, any state or non-state actor in Europe could have done it and Putin has just as many reasons as anyone else. People just don't understand the diplomatic calculus. Imagine that the German government got caught kidapping American citizens ? After being caught the Germans just shrugged and said, OK you caught us but we promise not to do it again ? ! We still friends ? Now imagine the same scenario where the life's blood for the German economy , a 10 billion dollar engineering project, mostly privately held, is blown up secretly by Americans and when we get caught our answer will be ? OK , you caught us we promise to do it again, We still friends ? ! Way too many people are not thinking very deeply and when I listen to Seymour Hersh I hear a man filled with rambling non-sequiters and a man desperately trying to stay relevant in modern news times. Single source anonymous my azz.
Jeremy, Seymour Hersch has never said that he only had ONE source. You imagined that. Seymour knows how to protect his source(s). One way to do that is by not revealing how many sources he has.
tbf to jeremy it's not just him who said hersh had one source, but yeah, the media seems to be conflating "anonymous source" with "one source."
The problem is Hersch didn't produce any actual evidence. It was all talk.
@@Purple_flower09 do you think that the six guys and a boat story is more plausible?
@@livingdunningkrugereffect2478 It's at least possible, while Hersh's nonsense story has been conclusively debunked.
@@Kalumbatsch where is that? can I read these arguments that debunk Hersh's story? or what are the flaws in his story?
Pls, try to free Julián Assange
What? and allow and enable truth telling? Horrors !!
Would be pretty par for the course for the way the US has historically done things honestly.
Russia is the same, actually much worse, US didn't annex Iraq and didn't proclaimed Iraq american territory
@@hentaisenpai3534 Why would they? They only needed to gain control of the The Iraq National Oil Company
@@Mephitinae and then they left Iraq and its national oil company alone, something russia would never do
@@hentaisenpai3534 because that wasn't in their best interest at that time. Apples are not oranges. Russia is not the USA. This stuff ain't Legos.
It would also be par for the course for the Russian Federation to jeopardize economic ties in order to achieve geopolitical goals. Ultimately though, it's the Ukrainians who have the most to gain, both during and after the war. Even if it would destabilize NATO, Russia would lose the revenue; and even if it reduced dependence on Russian fossil imports, the US's energy prices would skyrocket (and have skyrocketed) which is a domestic political liability. The Ukrainians are the only ones desperate enough to attempt something like this and it's likely that the US is covering for them after the fact, that they found it easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.
“We don’t even need to cite SCOTT RITTER on this!” Ha ha ha! Thank you DN for directing us to Scott’s article! You regained some credibility with me!
👍🏻
He said that because Ritter is a Russian agent.
@@browngreen933 you’re a CIA agent
Wrong, he’s a Russia expert
Scott Ritter is a convicted sex offender with no remorse. Look it up.
We have a saying in my country that says: the bird is known by the way it shits. Washington is historically used to doing things like this.
This behavior actually predates the establishment of the city of Washington. The leopard does not change its spots.
The notion that independent organizations could muster the equipment and expertise and amount of explosives to pull off the destruction of the nordstream is insane.
Not really. The pipeline was in fairly shallow water and would have required a fairly small explosive as well. A PADI certified tourist in a rental boat could have done this.
It does seem like the US is most likely, because we are in the best place to benefit from economically crippling Russia and making our sanctions more effective as well. However, the EU would obviously be hurt by cutting off their trade with Russia, so the best way to get it done would be clandestine.
@@joew8438 NS1 and 2 didn't work at that time, Germany stopped NS2 sertification and russia stopped NS1, Europe tried to cut itself from russian gas dependency anyways
@@joew8438 Utter trash !!
That would be like opiumfarmers suddenly becoming trick jumbojet pilots bc they went to flightschool.
Really? Are you an expert on nautical explosives in military operations of the sort?
This guy is so dedicated to giving us the truth. Admirable.
SeyHersch 👍
Wtv chairman mao & tzar tell him to say…quoting Scott Ritter 😂😂😂
He knows his stuff and is very cogent.
@@user-ti3vp9mt3z for sure the us prob did it, just not naive as the rest of u guys
Thinking that ur better of with Russia or china dictating everything
He’d be in jail
@@kappa82 found the neocon warmonger masquerading as a conscious "liberal"
Whats going on Democracy Now telling the truth for a change? There late and bought.
Both Victoria and Joe said it would happen, then it happened.
victoria nuland is a brainless war monger charge her
Of course you don't want to give Scott Ritter any credit for debunking this nonsense story because if you do that you might have to give him credit for some of the other stuff he's been saying about this war from the beginning.
Oh, what was Scott Ritter twice convicted for, Vatnik?
@@GrimLocke161 he loves little gurls
@@GrimLocke161 what does that have to do with Ritter's judgment in military affairs? Nothing! So if you want to discredit him, next time be spot on!
@@herbertdarick7693 I don't trust the moral code of a pedophile. It is absolutely related.
@@hentaisenpai3534 I’m not sure what gender he was after, but it was definitely minors. 😏
The narrative about the “yacht” and the small team: Medic (“tiny woman”) and 7 men is completely absurd. Paid to be dumb and lie.
Good to see Jeremy Scahill again, amazing work
This was the first time I ever saw him do fake news. This is very disappointing. He knows damn well Hersh is telling the truth. Here he has lost all credibility. Presenting both stories as equal-ish.
Scahill has been bought. He should have left The Intercept when Greenwald did for them being corrupt.
Pity. Scahill was on my great Journo's list for 20 years. Now he is in the "bought MSM shills" bin. What a waste.
What work. This is ALL wild speculation.
@@brianmetzker5225 What do you mean speculation. We know in detail what happened; what Sy Hersh reported.
@@melanieenmats _"We know in detail what happened; what Sy Hersh reported."_
No, we don't and it was irresponsible of Hersh to publish a report based on a single unknown source.
@@GonzoTehGreat You repeat the MSM "singe source lie".
Hersh has a life long stellar record. But you'd rather trust sources that lie to you almost every day.
Are you trying to fool yourself or other people here? I honestly struggle to understand.
The cover-up stories are just prima facie nonsensical, and Hersh's is entirely logical. The truth here is obvious to any honest observer.
So what's your angle? What do you win by spreading this disinformation. You work at Langley? If you don't you deserve to be paid for your work.
Not discussed is the great difficulty in locating the pipeline in complete darkness at 240 feet down. The dive time is necessarily short at these great depths and requires sophisticated air mixtures plus the decompression chambers as mentioned. This could only have been carried out with high tech support and a bigger ship with bottom scanning technology.
The mission is very dangerous, suicidal and impossible to operate. I know that US only can do that. Very terrifying.
I disagree with you. I dived in my younger days and this is more than possible to achieve provided you could get a supplier for military grade explosives and timer devices aided by a few fishing vessels and a team of 10 to 12 qualified sports divers. There is not "great difficulty" in locating any pipeline at a depth of 100 ft or even 240 ft given the exact coordinates of all pipelines can be easily obtained.
@@jonathanikeda8727 I totally disagree with you. I dived in my younger days and this is more than possible to achieve provided you could get a supplier for military grade explosives and timer devices aided by a few fishing vessels.
@@johnwhite626 Where did they put the decompression tanks + the cylinders of nitrogen, oxygen + helium?
@@meurigdavies8080 It all depends on the depth you dived to and the "bottom time" spent at "that depth" as to whether or not you actually need to decompress. We would decompress (if required) on the shot line attached to the dive boat and/or to the wreck where we would have cylinders attached at certain depth(s) to attach ourselves to for perhaps about for 20 minutes or 40 minutes or whatever time was required to safely decompress.
The gas pipelines were said to be at approx 100 depth and this would have been a easy job for a team of 10 to 12 sports divers let along military trained divers who are essentially ordnance disposal experts with easy access to explosives and timers etc.
Its not a over complicated operation to safely achieve the outcome and to destroy gas pipelines at these depths.
Thank you Jeremy.
I once peer-reviewed an explosive underwater drone called a BloodFish that could take out a Destroyer, Battleship, or Aircraft carrier. Never even thought about pipelines?
Technology is HELL
Sure, but wouldn't there be leftover wreckage?
Wouldn't even need a drone.
That water is shallow. The target is miles long and route is pretty accurately mapped for anyone to see.
Simply lower a bigazz bomb, the drag it until its magnetic sensors show it's on target.
So easy, any Fishing Captian could do it.
@@benjurqunov But they would use an underwater drone, because they have them, and they always want to play with their newest toys first.
1 hour before the explosion happened, a NATO spy plane was send to Poland just doing circles for 2 hours... Then the plane flew towards the place of the explosion and flew back to its base in Norway.
Jeremy Scahill and Seymour Hurst are both great Americans and truth telling journalists. Thanks for having them on and thanks for all you do on Democracy Now. Rick WA state, USA❤
I cannot understand why anyone cites the New York Times as a responsible participant in anything? Aren't those days long gone?
Did Greenpease speak up on the Nords Stream Environmental 🤔 disaster sponsor by US .
Not a word. Greta too.
Hmm, there was a incident making headlines all over the world about Chinese balloons at the same time Hersh released his publication🤔 Coincidence?
Yes like januari 6 when you dont show all the films from that day
Thank you, to this excellent journalist,; Jeremy Scahill.
The latest infor does support this, as Russia found the antenna device. Meaning it was detonated remotely, just like Hersh said.
Something that would not have been required unless they especially wanted to blow them up on a later date.
Why is Russia bitterly complaining that it has not been given access to the sites yet? If we know anything it is it did not happen like "Hersh said"
Havnt you heard of depth charges.Easy peasy for anyone.
@ Floro and that other genius above in the comments. How did DN manage to get you two, best experts in underwater detonations all in one show. Incredible. Thank you for your insight.
@@forsalestuff1036 you Come across more condesending than knowledgeable!
How exactly did Russia find this antenna device ?, when they are not participating in the investigation and are not allowed anywhere near where it happened, in Swedish and Danish waters.
Is ICC going to issue a warrant of arrest to the culprit?
What do you think?
Jeremy Scahill, a superb journalist from his reportings on "Drones: Obama's Dirty Wars" and other Geo-Political conflicts . . .
And biased when it comes to West
Face it
The US has been under cabal rule for as long as anyone can remember.
Nobody wants to admit it ..
because everyone...
just let it happen.
The elections are a joke and whoever wins is a puppet or soon to be a puppet.and one..
with very little power ..
Some like Obama and Clinton put up a fight..
But look how quickly the great white hope Obama faded.
caved in almost immediately.
It's embarrassing..
Some like Reagan and Bush were never a problem they were always a part of the establishment.. especially Bush.
The real unknowns like Trump were a the real problems..
Coming in as a republican and turning out more a lefty than any democrat.
That man is hated by everyone..
Left and right.
Which means he's a close as you'll get in the greatest country on earth 😅👍
“ This video is currently unavailable to watch in your location “. Censorship I guess.
He used to be good yes. But now he is lending credibility to this fake story psy-op. I'm baffled he can even keep a straight face doing this here. Juan was on to it. See Scahill expression when Scott Ritter is mentioned. Image that says a thousand words.
Scahill has been corrupted. I was a fan for 20 years but this is obvious.
@@melanieenmats why you don't like his answers
Jeremy Scahill is a good boy.
Near time for a squint into the 2014 Maidan, and Nuland's regime-change cookie jar.
Might contextualise the situation.
Jeremy has been a great independent journalist for years.
Thank you, Democracy Now with Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzalez and team. (Keeping it true.)
there is little doubt in my mind who did this...rules be damned, they gonna do whatever they want. They will lie, threaten, punish, arrest, prosecute anyone who defies them. Legitimate or not.
Isn't that the American Way?
Where is the WMD
Timestamp 3:02: "The dismissal of Seymour Hersh by so many people is reckless, it also shows a total disregard for the history of American covert operations and it ultimately seeks to silence people who are questioning what I think is quite clearly the top suspect in this international act of terrorism and that is the party that would have the greatest motivation to conduct this attack, and that would be the United States."
This my second video of watching this guy speaking truth and the first video of him lead to the other cause he speaks fact. I my self wanted to accuse America for everything cause it’s disgusting and unbelievable what American is doing. I hope trump gets in office and make a deal with Russia. ❤
Trump had four years to "make a deal with Russia". All he managed to do was to let Putin screw him repeatedly in the ass like the victim he is.
How could a crime be investigated by a criminal?
Jeremy Scahill is an excellent journalist. Thank you DN for this interview.
Didn't someone say that the operation was too big and that it had to be state sponsored? Aren't they contradicting themselves?
Good, fair commentary. Rather than the always Ukraine-biased stuff we oft hear on Democracy Now.
Its such a shame that some ppl on the left care so much for a pipeline, but doing a massive invasion of another country, well they might care, but not if its done by Russia
Iam a European and i really couldnt given less of a fuck who is responsible, but its satisfying to see Russia being given the middle finger once awhile
We may never know who really blew up the Nordstream pipelines in an act of terrorism. (Psst .... the US did it. )
False Flag Operations, our favorite ruse
When good friends destroy your house, at least you know where you stand....In the open .
The blowing was one thing, but the reaction of Europe is jawdroppjng.
Agree and Schahil didn’t like Ritter getting credit for his take on what happened
Wow, a credible guest on Democracy Now about this war. About time, though over a year late. Now, invite Scott Ritter.
They don't put Ritter on because he's a convicted sex offender. It's not a good look.
Patrick Lancaster, Anna Lauren Bonet, the Duran, Jimmy Dore, Graham Philips, Dreizin rapport, the new Atlas, Gonzalo Lira, Kim Iverson, Jason Hinkle, Emil Cosman, Scott Ritter, redacted, Jeffrey Sacks....
@@gorantomic7150 Pepe Escobar, John Mearsheimer, Roger Waters, The Intercept....
Met him in Cleveland at speaking engagement and book tour! Critical thinking and a great speaker
This was never a question in the mind of a reasonable person. Biden said he would destroy it Victoria Nuland said the U.S would destroy it. And Wallah it gets blown up. Now I wonder who could have done that😅
So excellent as always
Thank you Amy and guest for your excellent report 💛
interesting how Scahill in this "Nord Stream Bombing" interview says, "We don't even need to cite, Scott Ritter..." carefully distancing himself from one of the most outspoken voices countering the NATO/M$M received narrative - why ? especially when Ritter continually points out that the war is really about the US/UK neocon Moscow regime change project, you know Jeremy, that same gang attempting regime change in Syira, about which you written so much
The problem with Ritter is that he is a convicted sex offender and tool of the CCP.
DOG STAR -- Yeah, Jeremy doesn't report about the neocons anymore. Not sure what he does, apparently nothing of consequence. Whatever he's doing for a living, these days (not journalism, surely), it seems to be lucrative enough to get him to muddy the waters about the greatest act of eco-terrorism in human history, so thank Omidyar for that!
Good to see this important issue is been kept in the public eye by DN and Jeremy Scahill, the mainstream media blackouts is very concerning.
Caught off guard their long silence to concoct a response was the ultimate admission of guilt.
Btw, the US President and other Politicians had said on the Media, that the Pipeline will goes down under any circumstances!,
I was just going to say this, Biden declared that the pipelines would be destroyed.
Nicely said Jeremy
Jeremy Scahill is always engrossing and well reasoned
THIS IS A TERRORIST ACT
Jeremy 's right, this was a sophisticated operation. Imagine - taking 15 minutes to say " I don't know."
I wish Jeremy still hosted the Intercepted Podcast
Oh my god! Yes! So do I. Its so disappointing that he just never came back. It’s not the same without him.
No debate needed. The public and world knows who did it.🎉
Both Zelensky and Blinken called the NS2 a "Threat to Europe's energy security"...
Finally some fairness to Sy’s reporting and less thinking of people are that gullible
I want to ask US citizens do they really want to risk a nuclear wipe of this planet for the sake of ukraine?
That's a great precedent to set /s. Maybe the next time the US wants to get its way it just needs to threaten to nuke a country into oblivion; it's not worth the risk of nuclear armageddon to say no, right?
But unlike Russia, the US's would actually launch and detonate. Russia's would just sizzle in their silos and make a 'womp-womp' sound.
I as American don’t but do they care what I think? Not
No, but this logic basically says to let a nuclear power... any nuclear power... do whatever it wants because of the possible consequences. Is that what you want?
@@tinetannies4637 which the US has been doing for ~ 80 years...
@@stoyanvatsev2134 Yes and no. The US also has an enormous conventional military which, in some ways, is more of a deterrent because it can be credibly used. And yes, the US has also been doing this for many decades, we're in agreement.
Thr President says Nordstream will not operate, the President says 'we can do it", the President said we will stop it, what else do we need to stop doubting we did it. Hersh said that as well.
Must be tough for Amy hearing pure truth as opposed to spewing her normal daily propaganda.
One of the most highly regarded military analysts in Denmark reached the same conclusion as Ritter and the Naval Warfare specialists cited by Scahill. He found the "rented boat" story incredibly unlikely given the sophistication of the operation.
Rented Boat ?
That water is shallow. To lower a bomb then drag it onto a huge metallic target is something any Fishing Captian could easily do.
@@benjurqunov Shallow? Are you okay?
@@gary7vn
Anything under 200m is not deep for guys in the business of putting things on the bottom.
@@benjurqunov It's really deep, unless you want to support the bullshit about some Ukrainian snorkelers. Pretty much everyone except you agrees.
Assertions made without evidence can be disregarded without evidence. Bring it.
Correct. Russia asked for an international investigation. The chihuahuas (Danish, Sweden, German) refused. Do you know why?
@@cerenaseawell5753 those countries are carrying out an international investigation. They just don't want Putin in there for obvious reasons.
Can we get any USA citizen, anyone who might possibly have had anything to do with the terrorist act, to swear under oath that they had nothing to do with the sabotage. Then we can jail them for lying, unless of course, they are to big to jail.
Good to see Jeremy Scahill back to his old self. Still it doesn't excuse Democracy Now for its own poor work reporting on US regime change
Does it not take MORE explosive underwater because of pressure ? Was thinking about that,curious. Also was thinking of latest methods and material, or has it basically stayed the same. I knew one underwater demo seal once,ànd he was in nam he was cool told us all about what they did. Bridges, underwater plastic semtex is same compound now
Probably takes much less explosive, I would think. Water isn't compressible like air is, so it delivers the full concussive force, while air acts like a shock absorber.
wikipedia : "Björn Lund, Associate Professor in Seismology at The Swedish National Seismic Network said "there is no doubt that these were explosions" at an estimated 100-kilogram (220 lb) TNT equivalent." ?
That would be 75 kg RDX *4.
DN finally remembering why they exist. Good reporting folks.
One thing is clear: this whole yacht narative is rubbish and they´re explaining it. Andromeda was supposed to be the sacrificial lamb for the kraken Poseidon sent until Perseus came and stoped him with Medusas head. It´s not the obvious culprit and no it´s never gona be revealed who did it.
The moto is, keep Russia out, the US in and Germany down.
The value of the target is exponentially increased when considering the length of available attack points. Damage÷Ergonomics=Cost effective.
An operation spending $1M that destroys the enemies ability to produce $1B in income per/X days.
Who's making the most money off of this disabled pipeline problem? It doesn't take a lot of special equipment to dive 200 feet. There are free divers who can do it in a single breath. Some guy went down about 500 ft on a single breath.
Seymour Hersh is beyond reproach
It is also possible that a very patriotic Navy
diver participated and like Edward Snowden
knew this was terrorism and felt strongly that the country he loved and put his life on the ine for decided to ask a learned scholar that could help him navigate through a perilous storm or perhaps someone high up with a sense of right and wrong
So a patriot participated but he’s a terrorist also? I hope you’re smarter than that reads because it reads stupid
It’s all about Intend, clearly voiced by JB and VN and Cui Bono, only the U.S profits from this act, undoubtedly authorized by JB.
What more evidence do you need when the President said on TV we will put an end to it!!!!!
Thanks so much to DN and all distinguished guests for these explanations.
TO AVOID WWIII SOMETHING NEEDED TO BE DONE ☑️
Preventing war by blowing stuff up, what a brain-trust we have here!
WW3 still coming whether you wanna believe it or not.
mixed gas diving would likely allowed short bottom time at this depth. Remotely operated vehicles could have been employed.
Not even ROVs.
That's shallow water and a huge metallic target.
Simply lower a bigazz bomb then drag it over the target.
Any Fishing Vessel could do it.
The simple fact is they still take the people for fools and expect to get away with that cock and bull story!
Just how much did Biden actually know (or remember) about what is going on?
If you want a cover story, it really needs to be PLAUSIBLE!
If it's implausible enough, the conspiracy theorist will go crazy over it, and then you can just pass it off as a crazy conspiracy.
Free Julian Assange end apartheid and end all sanctions!
PBS is no longer a reputable sourse of information.