Falcon has too much gravity in ultimate, poor jumps, and plays like kirby. They completely ruined falcon. I'm obviously a Falcon main, but definitely not on ultimate. I prefer young link, marth and snake
They can't 99% of the time unless the tourney is in a small location like at the old Xanadu. But most of the time the commentators have enough room to be far away. Even the live audience doesn't hear them.
I was playing on stream once at my local and the commentators are almost face to face with us and they implicitly said I was bad. I lost concentration afterwards :(
Literally the best smash set I've seen in forever. These two are literally my mains and it is so cool seeing basically the best two players in the world for these characters going at it. Truly awesome!!
I've played this matchup a lot from both ends and this is actually a pretty tough matchup for Snake. Falcon can rip into you so hard on openings. Those aerial trades with grenades and grab punishes are about the only thing you can do to keep the other player honest. As aggressive as both characters can be, it takes a lot of patience for both.
I love how it starts out one-sided for Falcon, Ally starts to see his pattern and correct his playstyle to keep Fatality feeling cautious and playing safe, and by the end of it Fatality has grown wiser and realizes he needs to be aggressive and power charge through the grenades to land some hits. Very strategic and entertaining match
i’m new to smash but what i’m loving is that it seems almost every character people are raving how good they are. i really dig that so many of the characters are good and i hope they do not nerf but just buff anyone that needs it.
Seeing a Falcon fight is always a thing of beauty. No cheap gimmicks, no range spam, and no broken moves. He runs you down and beats you. Pure and simple.
Biffyguy Biffy not really when you nerf the rest of his movepool besides Falcon Kick you probably mad about the 1 in 20 games that a Falcon actually gets a Falcon Dive half that cast have gotten there whole move pools reevaluated lmao Falcon is fine
@Jeeses99 friendly note he has awful frame data, with his best aerial giving I think -9 frames of disadvantage, horrible range because his hurtbox shift begins before his attack, and has the 34th fastest initial dash, slower than Bowser, Rob, and Donkey Kong, on top of the 43rd fastest air momentum, tied with incineroar and ridley. I'd argue he's broken but not in a good way lol~
I must be a hater but I can’t stand the grenades preventing any captain falcon combos. It’s like you have to dodge 24/7. That edge guard rocket is broken as all hell too. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good character. But I just find it annoying
Snake is just one of the best balanced characters in the game. He is heavy weight so he is not fast, also he doesn’t hit as hard as ganon for example, but his recovery and edge guarding makes up for that. If you think his rocket is op then so is villager fishing rod etc. the most important factor is matchup, not every character is good in certain matchup, hard hitters like falcon have problems with zoning chars, you just pointed it out, why should snake let himself get comboed or any character at all if they can prevent it? why else would you think Richter is high tier? It’s because he is very good at zoning and most top tier chars are meele, Chrom Lucians and so on
Everyone talking about Ally but can we just take a moment to admire how Fatality destroyed him the first 2 games? hell yeah, intense match, i loved it, sadly he started playing less aggressive after the third game and that was a mistake..
Nah, Ally adapted after the first two games. He could tell that things weren't working out for him, so instead of trying to combo, he focused purely on zoning Falcon and making sure that if Fatality got close, he had a failsafe or a plan to escape. This counters Falcon's rushdown game hard. Without getting up and personal with his enemy, Falcon can't do shit because he has no ways to close the gap safely and no projectiles. A godly player like Fatality can close the gap skillfully, but it's not enough against an equally godly player like Ally.
When Fatality ran in a lot he still had to respect the grenade explosions, which made him get conditioned a lot aka grabbed, dash attack etc. So he instead focused on looking carefully for an opening. Top level play for yah
OMG thank god someone else actually knows their roles. Most people think Falcon is just a racer, or Snake is just a spy. It actually gets me in the feels sometimes
Big Boss was the merc I thought. I think Solid Snake technically counts as a merc but after MGS1 he's only working with Otacon in his own private group, Philanthropy.
I like batman yeah but solid snake intentionally dosent use cqc because it's big bosses technique, there's a codec between snake and On the way on where he explains it
Yeah, Snake is fun to watch and maybe fun to play, but nothing for me. I like aggressvi characters like Inkling and the fact that Inkling is from Splatoon, a game I grinded so hard, makes it even better! Snake isbä to much with projectiles, nothing for me tho, but people who play him actually good, get from me a thumbs up! Hard character tho!
I think he needs to put in a bit more time with him to go for more spontaneous rewards and sudden read situations, but Fatality is really on the right track. It looked like he was almost in the right groove in this set. Aside from smart and aggressive plays, the only thing I thought seemed lacking was gaining a clear stride with momentum as Falcon. When Falcon takes a strong lead, he takes it and it always looks brutal and quick. There was glimpses of that for sure in some of those fast kills. Not quite there yet in full show, but almost. In contrast I’d say that’s where Ally is with his Snake right now. He just knows his character that well. Fatality is right about Falcon being and feeling significantly different in Ultimate; and this might be weird to say, but Ultimate Falcon so far makes me think he’s like a blend between his 64 and Melee iterations.
Fatality has a lot of room to improve since the game is still fresh. If he can keep improving falcon style like this, he might become the first person to single hand carry falcon to big tourament.
I'm wet. I main both Captain Falcon and Snake, so seeing this high level game play was so amazing. Props to these two and the commentators! This was hype af!
Does Ally or Fatlity stream or have a RUclips channel they post to? Would be cool to have their links in the bio of the videos. Both are tremendous talents.
TriFF51 snakes down throw puts you on the ground, but the amount of time you’re there for scales up with the amount of percent you have. at around 160%, there is enough time for snake to go for up tilt without needing to get a read on what the opponent does next. it comes out before the opponent can do anything. hope i helped! 😁
I can’t agree with the red flash untechables, I think situations like that and being able to tech those game ending blows excites spectators and gives players that comeback factor only a game like smash could provide. Taking that away is such an unfortunate change
i don't have a huge problem with it as you can LSDI to decrease the chance to get the red splash. compared to Smash 4's RNG teching, I would rather deal with red flash untechables over this as in ultimate, it's based on knockback, where in smash 4 as the higher your % is, the more luck based the tech situation becomes.
It's not RNG and it's based upon knockback. I think the change is good. 3 stocks are standard now instead of 2 and stock wipes are faster. Gone are the days people are wall teching to 200%+. It was boring to watch people survive that long.
Teching is significantly easier in this game since you are actually able to buffer techs. If there was nothing to stop you from teching, then stage spikes would be useless because you could just hold shield and buffer a tech out of your up b and recover again
I think it makes sense at least with the way that wall bounces work in the game. Since the more velocity you have when you hit a wall the more time you spend "stuck" to the wall (makes for very satisfying brutal pinballing effects), it used to be that the higher percent you had the EASIER it was to tech, which doesn't really make sense ad infinitum. With this change, teching still gets easier as it becomes more valuable but doesn't go on to make stage spiking someone past 150% (also a very exciting thing for spectators) nearly impossible
Definitly not calling Snakes bombs spam. But I find it kinda unfair to deal with in pro play.(not denying the skill it needs to do the spacing etc) I feel like Fatality played better. Ofc he sd one stock in the end but he earned a win.
Grenades aren't broken because they do dmg to snake as well. If you played him you would understand just how difficult it is to do everything right with him
@@flaviomarchi lol very true. The high skill cap is what keeps him balanced. Almost like how doomfist was in Overwatch. Extremely potent character if used correctly but huge weaknesses for basic players.
True lol. This set was great between both players. It’s maybe roughly an even matchup too. I don’t see anything to complain about. Fatality and Ally both did great and repped their characters as well as anyone would at least want this early on in the game.
Is Ally an amazing player with god like understand of the character and knows how to strategize and plan ahead? Yes. But is is spamming? Obviously, he is legit dropping grenades everywhere and holding them while he’s getting combo’d.. he is clearly talented but this seems broken in pro play... I could never pull of what ally is doing. But he is straight up dropping a grenade every 1-2 seconds... probably the best snake out there but if this is what a top snake looks like this shit is incredibly stupid. I’d hate to be that captain falcon
Children like you who complain about snake and have never played brawl should not have opinions. Snake played almost the same in brawl and no one had a problem with it. Entitled newcomers complain about everything these days
I doubt it. A lot of the best characters are fast rushdown characters, the kind that Snake starts to fall apart against. I can't see him being dominant enough to be a "crowd killer"
The reason Fatality was so good & neck n neck with Ally's Snake is because he did what I never really saw Darkwolf wolf do vs Ally; rush down, no space, pressure, & NO FEAR even in the air; Fatality was always known for his warrior spirit in Sm4sh, going all in every time; GGs to both for a highly entertaining set. 👍💯🔥
Fantastic match to watch! I was cheering for Fatality but was really enjoying all the mix ups and change of strategy by Ally. The commentary was also on point! Probably my favorite match I’ve watch so far that didn’t have any character I’m using.
If i had a dollar for every grenade ally dropped i'd be able to buy another switch. but in all seriousness both players played their characters amazingly. ally's zoning with snake was great and fatality still did a good job of playing around that.
No one hates on him, it's just from their perception and haven't played a snake good enough to prove them wrong. The vast majority of snake players make him look bad, if you get ally or mvd then ofcourse it's gonna look good, since brawl days lol. And it's opinions on him sucking
This set was a treat to watch. The adaptation that both players were able to display really kept me at the egde of my seat for the whole match, especially at game 5. I'm sad I couldn't watch this live but it surely made my breakfast much more enjoyable.
@@russianbot2179 It's weird for me, I play ness who has a bad neutral. So I usually don't have fun at first, but at the end, I actually enjoy fighting against him.
@@DragonOfMTL True, but I feel like in this game more than Brawl having that zero risk edge guard especially against characters with poor recoveries is huge. Especially since his weakness was supposed to be that in the air he's bad so he couldn't do much if you were offstage (without a real risky play), now he can.
He says that because some poeple find Snake boring and that Ally just spams bombs like a moron, and that Young Link is hype to watch compared to Snake.
@I want to be dead ur obviously new to smash bros. or just dumb. k rool isn't as amazing as u think. it wasn't mindless snake spam. he was very smart in his zoning decisions.
I guess this isn’t how most people feel but is “spamming” not an issue in competitive play? That was the most annoying shit I’ve ever seen in my life from snake.. he won and is clearly a good player but I’d almost just call him a “skilled spammer” I would be piiiiiiiiiised if I was fatality.
Is anybody else bothered by how dark the vods from this tournament is? (Forgive my lack of proper terminology, I'm not that knowledgeable in that realm)
You got to have great defense and spacing to play snake. He has practically no offensive options other than his projectiles. Allys snake is in a class of his own. I have yet to see other great snake players
i would actually hate playing a high level snake like ally. I would not be able to find openings at all, super impressed with fatality's performance in this set
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“Falcon sucks” “Snake sucks”
Ally & Fatality:
I think snake is actually placed pretty high on tier list
@Adam Thompson who's Leffen in ultimate? haha
@@pandarex_x lol mm him u prob get wreckt. sry gotta defend my man big Leff
yeah he's an asshole but he's good at the game
@@mojolito well duh he's a professional melee players with tournaments under his belt. But he's not a smash 4 nor ultimate competitive player.
Came to watch Ally, left as fan of both players.
Yeah man. Fatality is fucking hype.
Came to watch Fatality, left as fan of both players.
You can’t watch either of these players and not leave a huge fan of them
I was already a fan of both when this came on my recommends. Super hyped for this set
I bet you like watching giule in sfv
I REALLY liked those commentators ! Keep going guys ! You bring a lot more to the game than you think !
i cant get over the dudes constant fake sounding laughter, it makes me cringe.
KDJ is the goat
All Knee combos used in the set
4:17
5:36
Was it just me, or Fatality missed a couple of knees?
Greivin Mena He kept on opting for the n-air instead of knee on DI in so I’m going to assume that the knee wouldn’t have comboed
Makes me sad there's only two in twenty minutes
Knee of justice!!! 😂
Falcon has too much gravity in ultimate, poor jumps, and plays like kirby. They completely ruined falcon. I'm obviously a Falcon main, but definitely not on ultimate. I prefer young link, marth and snake
I’ve always wondered about this but can the players hear the commentators during the match because I imagine it can get really annoying.
They can't 99% of the time unless the tourney is in a small location like at the old Xanadu. But most of the time the commentators have enough room to be far away. Even the live audience doesn't hear them.
Yes
You can see them at the end of the video in a completely different room
I was playing on stream once at my local and the commentators are almost face to face with us and they implicitly said I was bad. I lost concentration afterwards :(
@@stardust2287 I'm terrible for laughing at this :[ Cheer up champ...
Fatality is sick
Nah
@@CaptainFALKEN he's one of the main hype players in the scene But shake. Snakes play style bothers me
But he's perfectly healthy
LocalBoxer if they didn’t have buffed snake’s akeeda or his down smash then he would’ve been low tier.
@@ReydelSans but he's a campy character.
I am binge watching ally's snake matches and I can't stop
Kotoriimbued same. He’s soooo satisfying to watch, and makes me want to main Snake now, too.
Wow I'm actually really surprised this is a popular opinion.
MVD has a solid Snake too. No pun intended. Traps galore
He's so fun to watch!
Give MVD a try too. His Snake is crazy
Ally vs Fatality is going to be a big thing in this game...I feel it.
bruh its a classic polar opposite match up! Complicated Snake vs Simple Falcon, ya feel?
Simple falcon... lul
@@jc8153 Playing Falcon is not simple lol
Jay C. You played too much FG back in sm4sh apparently
Shit, yall right. My bad lol
Literally the best smash set I've seen in forever. These two are literally my mains and it is so cool seeing basically the best two players in the world for these characters going at it. Truly awesome!!
Nice!
Literally
This is everything I wanted to see in competitive Ultimate
Same
And coming back 5 years later this game looks like dogshit lol
I've played this matchup a lot from both ends and this is actually a pretty tough matchup for Snake. Falcon can rip into you so hard on openings. Those aerial trades with grenades and grab punishes are about the only thing you can do to keep the other player honest. As aggressive as both characters can be, it takes a lot of patience for both.
Michael Gutierrez Its really hard for falcon, not impossible tho
I'm not too sure myself, but I would agree that Falcon does better against snake than a lot of characters. I think it's even personally
>20 minutes of Fatality's Rushdown and Ally's zoning
Dear God this is heaven, I love both and we have something as great as this
I love how it starts out one-sided for Falcon, Ally starts to see his pattern and correct his playstyle to keep Fatality feeling cautious and playing safe, and by the end of it Fatality has grown wiser and realizes he needs to be aggressive and power charge through the grenades to land some hits. Very strategic and entertaining match
i’m new to smash but what i’m loving is that it seems almost every character people are raving how good they are. i really dig that so many of the characters are good and i hope they do not nerf but just buff anyone that needs it.
Unless you have a lot of safe stuff that people complain about
Agreed 100% I hate when they nerf characters, just buff other characters so everyone has good options
Nice attitude from Ally. Going 0-2 and still keeps his composure and smile on his face. The man is back
Seeing a Falcon fight is always a thing of beauty. No cheap gimmicks, no range spam, and no broken moves.
He runs you down and beats you. Pure and simple.
Up b is a bit much if we’re being real.....
Biffyguy Biffy not really when you nerf the rest of his movepool besides Falcon Kick you probably mad about the 1 in 20 games that a Falcon actually gets a Falcon Dive half that cast have gotten there whole move pools reevaluated lmao Falcon is fine
@Jeeses99 friendly note he has awful frame data, with his best aerial giving I think -9 frames of disadvantage, horrible range because his hurtbox shift begins before his attack, and has the 34th fastest initial dash, slower than Bowser, Rob, and Donkey Kong, on top of the 43rd fastest air momentum, tied with incineroar and ridley.
I'd argue he's broken but not in a good way lol~
@@lidofzejar Agreed. Hopefully Falcon gets some good buffs in 3.0 so Fatality can REALLY start wrecking some shit.
Will never stop maining Falcon even if he's F tier.
The People's Champion can never truly be beaten.
I must be a hater but I can’t stand the grenades preventing any captain falcon combos. It’s like you have to dodge 24/7. That edge guard rocket is broken as all hell too. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good character. But I just find it annoying
Lit Crypto It’s just not a decent situation for Falcon. Otherwise, I don’t find it to be broken.
Snake is just one of the best balanced characters in the game. He is heavy weight so he is not fast, also he doesn’t hit as hard as ganon for example, but his recovery and edge guarding makes up for that. If you think his rocket is op then so is villager fishing rod etc.
the most important factor is matchup, not every character is good in certain matchup, hard hitters like falcon have problems with zoning chars, you just pointed it out, why should snake let himself get comboed or any character at all if they can prevent it? why else would you think Richter is high tier? It’s because he is very good at zoning and most top tier chars are meele, Chrom Lucians and so on
@@CloudXIl up tilt of Snake is kind of stupid
Lit Crypto I know Captain Falcon sucks
Welcome to Brawl kiddo
Everyone talking about Ally but can we just take a moment to admire how Fatality destroyed him the first 2 games? hell yeah, intense match, i loved it, sadly he started playing less aggressive after the third game and that was a mistake..
Nah, Ally adapted after the first two games. He could tell that things weren't working out for him, so instead of trying to combo, he focused purely on zoning Falcon and making sure that if Fatality got close, he had a failsafe or a plan to escape.
This counters Falcon's rushdown game hard. Without getting up and personal with his enemy, Falcon can't do shit because he has no ways to close the gap safely and no projectiles. A godly player like Fatality can close the gap skillfully, but it's not enough against an equally godly player like Ally.
When Fatality ran in a lot he still had to respect the grenade explosions, which made him get conditioned a lot aka grabbed, dash attack etc. So he instead focused on looking carefully for an opening. Top level play for yah
We are two weeks into ultimate and the sets are already way more hype than anything Smash 4 had to offer. This game is great.
I love both Fatality AND Ally.
I’m surprised not to see his Mario, but I’ve heard he was a snake main in Brawl.
It definitely shows.
Aflay he played mario against Larry lurr
An epic clash between Mercenary and Bounty Hunter
OMG thank god someone else actually knows their roles. Most people think Falcon is just a racer, or Snake is just a spy. It actually gets me in the feels sometimes
Big Boss was the merc I thought. I think Solid Snake technically counts as a merc but after MGS1 he's only working with Otacon in his own private group, Philanthropy.
@@I_like_Batman This Snake represents both Solid and Naked. At least that is my impression. CQC
Armando Ramos Solid was trained by BB in CQC so that's not really a distinguishing characteristic.
I like batman yeah but solid snake intentionally dosent use cqc because it's big bosses technique, there's a codec between snake and On the way on where he explains it
Ally adapted
Elias Badillo
*improvise*
*adapt*
*overcome*
Is it really adapting if it was that close? It's more that it was just an even match
Yeah, Snake is fun to watch and maybe fun to play, but nothing for me. I like aggressvi characters like Inkling and the fact that Inkling is from Splatoon, a game I grinded so hard, makes it even better! Snake isbä to much with projectiles, nothing for me tho, but people who play him actually good, get from me a thumbs up! Hard character tho!
Damn this game is already more fun to watch than smash4 imo
Going from watching ultimate to watching smash 4 is agony. Its so slow and unsatisfying
@@Fewe00 Wait isn't Ultimate the 4th Smash Brothers installment??
@@phenomkrumper nah it goes smash 64, melee, brawl, smash bros for the wii U and then smash ultimate. Ultimate is the 5th installment.
@@Fewe00 Wasn't the Wii U version still Brawl though?
@@phenomkrumper nah entirely separate game but honestly I could see how you could think that.
That some good ass Ultimate right there
This shit had me on the edge of my seat the entire time. I feel like I should have paid to see entertainment of this quality.
Best Smash Ultimate I've seen so far
Coolingcomic Look at mvd vs awestin
Fatality is looking so much better now. Huge difference compared to when he played scatt so hes Definetely getting used to falcon
I think he needs to put in a bit more time with him to go for more spontaneous rewards and sudden read situations, but Fatality is really on the right track. It looked like he was almost in the right groove in this set. Aside from smart and aggressive plays, the only thing I thought seemed lacking was gaining a clear stride with momentum as Falcon. When Falcon takes a strong lead, he takes it and it always looks brutal and quick. There was glimpses of that for sure in some of those fast kills.
Not quite there yet in full show, but almost. In contrast I’d say that’s where Ally is with his Snake right now. He just knows his character that well. Fatality is right about Falcon being and feeling significantly different in Ultimate; and this might be weird to say, but Ultimate Falcon so far makes me think he’s like a blend between his 64 and Melee iterations.
Fatality has a lot of room to improve since the game is still fresh. If he can keep improving falcon style like this, he might become the first person to single hand carry falcon to big tourament.
Hibernial exactly. I think link is in the way of that and he needs to drop it completely
Got what I wanted, a best-of-5 between Fatality and Ally that went to Game 5. Solid commentating for once helped too
Let's go fatality, show the world how good falcon can be
‘Cept he got his ass handed to him in a lead of two by a man PROVING to the world how good snake can be
@@threeruneblade
Ally is sick, but it wasn't cause of snake, but because of adaptation. even still it was stupid close and anyones game
Riley Jones what? the final game score is 3-2, and the last game had them both with one stock left. that’s pretty close lol
Riley Jones Boy you got no idea what you’re talking about, look at ally at 18:30 and tell me he “destroyed” fatality. Stop being a dumbass
@@chepemasacuata1 Can you honestly not tell he's joking around. Take that stick out of your ass
the textbook camp vs rush down match up don't think I've seen a better set. these 2 NEED to be in next summit.
I'm wet.
I main both Captain Falcon and Snake, so seeing this high level game play was so amazing. Props to these two and the commentators! This was hype af!
Kudos to both players, snake vs falcon is such a manly and satisfying match to watch. Amazing commentators too !
Ally is currently my favorite ultimate player
Same
Was he known as the best Ultimate player in your time, John?
GREAT commentators. They have really good Chemistry together! Amazing gameplay to boot. Snake is really fun to watch!
Ally going back to his Brawl days
Screw the background drama. This is what we're all here for. Two great players respecting each other and playing some damn good smash.
Fatality did super well. Both are top notch players. As always, I love Ally's playing.
0:44 "Snake, you're not killing him off the top or off the side, snake is gonna live for a long time"
Snake: *dies*
Anybody experiencing a bug online with Captain Falcon where no matter what alt color you pick you always get put with the default color?
It happens with every character, IDK why tho, but it's very annoying
Does Ally or Fatlity stream or have a RUclips channel they post to? Would be cool to have their links in the bio of the videos. Both are tremendous talents.
Can someone explain what happens at 15:51 and whats guaranteed about it? Ive only played smash casually.
TriFF51 snakes down throw puts you on the ground, but the amount of time you’re there for scales up with the amount of percent you have. at around 160%, there is enough time for snake to go for up tilt without needing to get a read on what the opponent does next. it comes out before the opponent can do anything.
hope i helped! 😁
@@noirjain thanks! You definitely helped. Ive only tried smash casually but im trying to actually get good now. Appreciate it.
TriFF51 no problem, and good luck!
It's called a kuntfirm
I can’t agree with the red flash untechables, I think situations like that and being able to tech those game ending blows excites spectators and gives players that comeback factor only a game like smash could provide. Taking that away is such an unfortunate change
i don't have a huge problem with it as you can LSDI to decrease the chance to get the red splash. compared to Smash 4's RNG teching, I would rather deal with red flash untechables over this as in ultimate, it's based on knockback, where in smash 4 as the higher your % is, the more luck based the tech situation becomes.
It's not RNG and it's based upon knockback. I think the change is good. 3 stocks are standard now instead of 2 and stock wipes are faster. Gone are the days people are wall teching to 200%+. It was boring to watch people survive that long.
Teching is significantly easier in this game since you are actually able to buffer techs. If there was nothing to stop you from teching, then stage spikes would be useless because you could just hold shield and buffer a tech out of your up b and recover again
@@RanserSSF4 or we could just have it like melee where you can tech everything, and the games mechanics dont hold back your skill
I think it makes sense at least with the way that wall bounces work in the game. Since the more velocity you have when you hit a wall the more time you spend "stuck" to the wall (makes for very satisfying brutal pinballing effects), it used to be that the higher percent you had the EASIER it was to tech, which doesn't really make sense ad infinitum. With this change, teching still gets easier as it becomes more valuable but doesn't go on to make stage spiking someone past 150% (also a very exciting thing for spectators) nearly impossible
Definitly not calling Snakes bombs spam. But I find it kinda unfair to deal with in pro play.(not denying the skill it needs to do the spacing etc) I feel like Fatality played better. Ofc he sd one stock in the end but he earned a win.
Grenades aren't broken because they do dmg to snake as well. If you played him you would understand just how difficult it is to do everything right with him
Silent Swordsman Did you even read my comment lol
@@flaviomarchi nah he's just copy pasting other people's comment without thinking for himself
Uncrowned Emperor Yea lol I wrote that I understand how skillful it is. And I feel like its broken in proplay.
@@flaviomarchi lol very true. The high skill cap is what keeps him balanced. Almost like how doomfist was in Overwatch. Extremely potent character if used correctly but huge weaknesses for basic players.
Anyone saying spam isn’t even in elite battles, I guarantee it.
True lol. This set was great between both players. It’s maybe roughly an even matchup too. I don’t see anything to complain about. Fatality and Ally both did great and repped their characters as well as anyone would at least want this early on in the game.
Is Ally an amazing player with god like understand of the character and knows how to strategize and plan ahead? Yes. But is is spamming? Obviously, he is legit dropping grenades everywhere and holding them while he’s getting combo’d.. he is clearly talented but this seems broken in pro play... I could never pull of what ally is doing. But he is straight up dropping a grenade every 1-2 seconds... probably the best snake out there but if this is what a top snake looks like this shit is incredibly stupid. I’d hate to be that captain falcon
What frame is grenade pull? Because they need to need it, it’s dumb how snake can pull a grenade in the middle of a string so quickly
Awesome match. Such a display of skill. So close. Also the commentary was great as well.
Fatality is incredible finally competitive smash has begun
While I see Snake getting everybody's attention now, I predict this play style will be a crowd killer and a meme in the near future.
I will revisit in 3 months to confirm whether you're right or wrong
@@ROBLOXVIDSFORNOOBS I'll be here to witness
Children like you who complain about snake and have never played brawl should not have opinions. Snake played almost the same in brawl and no one had a problem with it. Entitled newcomers complain about everything these days
@@smurfdaddy420 When you take an elevated conversation and turn in into internet comment trash.
I doubt it. A lot of the best characters are fast rushdown characters, the kind that Snake starts to fall apart against. I can't see him being dominant enough to be a "crowd killer"
what is that blue indicator the commentators are talking about at 14:20?
So, how is Ally doing a run into Up tilt? Does he take his foot off the gas at the last second there to make it happen or what?
I was so scared in that last 30 seconds or so. Great set
That was a fantastic match to watch. On the edge of my seat the entire time. Can’t wait to see more of Fatality and Ally in the future!
The reason Fatality was so good & neck n neck with Ally's Snake is because he did what I never really saw Darkwolf wolf do vs Ally; rush down, no space, pressure, & NO FEAR even in the air; Fatality was always known for his warrior spirit in Sm4sh, going all in every time; GGs to both for a highly entertaining set. 👍💯🔥
Who the hell calibrated the display for this tourney? The contrast and brightness are eye blistering.
Fantastic match to watch! I was cheering for Fatality but was really enjoying all the mix ups and change of strategy by Ally. The commentary was also on point!
Probably my favorite match I’ve watch so far that didn’t have any character I’m using.
When was the c4 planted at 9:23
Literally my favorite Ultimate match I've watched, big fans of them and their respect for each other!
This is ultimate?! The gameplay looks really fast. Almost melee-esque
DeLorean Kennedy welcome to the ultimate smash 4/melee combo xD
No shieldrops :c make it too easy to camp under platform
If i had a dollar for every grenade ally dropped i'd be able to buy another switch. but in all seriousness both players played their characters amazingly. ally's zoning with snake was great and fatality still did a good job of playing around that.
What are they reading on that sheet? Is a rule related to the stage?
Honestly....the commentators made me enjoy this fight 10x more , I honestly missed my train to work cause of the hype they instilled in me
can someone tell me what that paper they are reading is?
>People say Snake sucks
>Is actually doing well in tournaments so far
Are you Snake haters done yet?
No one hates on him, it's just from their perception and haven't played a snake good enough to prove them wrong. The vast majority of snake players make him look bad, if you get ally or mvd then ofcourse it's gonna look good, since brawl days lol. And it's opinions on him sucking
No one hates him. If anything, people are shitting on falcon. Fatality is just barely hanging to falcon right now.
People who say snake sucks don't understand he is a tactical zoner.
cool greentext man
Spam
That Falcon is evolution, man. So free form and unexpected.
What brand is that red controller from?
CFでここまで戦えるのホント尊敬する。流石世界最強のCF使いですわ。
Ally leaving is the only reason we don’t put snake in top tier anymore, change my mind
This set was a treat to watch. The adaptation that both players were able to display really kept me at the egde of my seat for the whole match, especially at game 5. I'm sad I couldn't watch this live but it surely made my breakfast much more enjoyable.
Good Snakes in Brawl were so annoying to play against, good Snakes in Ultimate seem like a whole new hell lol.
its not fun. not fun at all. dodging grenades is a pain, and then when you get knocked off the stage, snake can edge guard you with zero risk
@@russianbot2179 It's weird for me, I play ness who has a bad neutral. So I usually don't have fun at first, but at the end, I actually enjoy fighting against him.
Brawl is Snake is way better than ultimate Snake, you have DACUS and down smash for pressure. You can't do any of those in this game.
@@DragonOfMTL True, but I feel like in this game more than Brawl having that zero risk edge guard especially against characters with poor recoveries is huge. Especially since his weakness was supposed to be that in the air he's bad so he couldn't do much if you were offstage (without a real risky play), now he can.
What the heck was this Switch's brightness settings?
what is that piece of paper they're reading between the matches?
Stagelist
How come Ally never uses is up-smash up cover the air?
0:48 was such a great idea, just raw reverse Up-B to catch the jump and secure the kill. Wow.
What’s that paper they read after each game?
I guess people would rather watch young link brainlessly spamming his bow and boomerang than a snake planning out his explosives to take smart trades.
I don't know what planet you live on, but if you migrate to Earth, you'll find that nobody wants to see Young Link spamming projectiles.
Paradoodle LOL, that is a good point
Definitely planned out.
He says that because some poeple find Snake boring and that Ally just spams bombs like a moron, and that Young Link is hype to watch compared to Snake.
@I want to be dead ur obviously new to smash bros. or just dumb. k rool isn't as amazing as u think. it wasn't mindless snake spam. he was very smart in his zoning decisions.
The Knee of Justice KO's Snake at 80%?! Holy shit!!
Damn, Fatality is amazing. Long time waiting him in a tournament.
Who do you think has better setups Snake or Pacman?
The first game ally has struggled
what are they reading in between matches?
Came for fatality he's easily my favorite player
I really wanna know what that paper they were reading, I'm assuming it was rules
Stage list
how do they get the pokémon stadium to not change?
No hazard was enabled
Best match in ssbu I have seen so far!!!
Both really great players, fast adaption and reaction o.O!!
What the actual heck is wrong with the brightness and saturation?
That was an awesome match to watch. Very technical with many setups against two iconic characters.
Ally's Snake is fun to watch, but can we talk about Fatality and how hype his Falcon is still
“Snake and Falcon. You don’t get manlier than that”.
*Sad Simon noises.*
I guess this isn’t how most people feel but is “spamming” not an issue in competitive play? That was the most annoying shit I’ve ever seen in my life from snake.. he won and is clearly a good player but I’d almost just call him a “skilled spammer” I would be piiiiiiiiiised if I was fatality.
Is anybody else bothered by how dark the vods from this tournament is? (Forgive my lack of proper terminology, I'm not that knowledgeable in that realm)
can someone tell me why Ally no longer uses ike 😭
Ally makes Snake look so awesome but I just can't use him properly. He's hard to play effectively
You got to have great defense and spacing to play snake. He has practically no offensive options other than his projectiles.
Allys snake is in a class of his own. I have yet to see other great snake players
@@Solo_Dohlo MVD showed off pretty well at dont park on the grass
@@Solo_Dohlo MVD
Snake way my favour character in brawl...... really happy to see him come back stronger much. But man that falcon was God like
This was a little painful to watch...so many grenades... can the man get a grab follow up without getting exploded?
Sure....if Ally wastes a grenade.
Fatality’s Falcon is great to watch, but Ally’s Snake is like watching art.
yep. hiding behind grenade spam and using a guider missile to edge guard. such good art
Russian Bot as they say, put your money where your mouth is
Why don’t you show us how easy it is to play as Snake?
No, Jeapie/n0ne and Professor Pro is art. If any of you ever played ultimate, you'd know ultimate doesn't play competitive at all
Captain FALKEN I’ve never heard a more ignorant comment. Where the hell is your proof that Ultimate is not competitive?
Art is an explosion when it comes to watching Snake huh.
What were they reading after the first match?
Stage list
Ah thanks. I’m used to them just using the same 4 stages in Smash 4
Fatality's Captain Falcon is the best player to watch.
i would actually hate playing a high level snake like ally. I would not be able to find openings at all, super impressed with fatality's performance in this set
Snake is one of the reasons why I main Lucas