The politics of destruction | Lara Brown | Battle of Ideas 2024
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- Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025
- From the Battle of Ideas Festival 2024
DEBATE: Iconoclasm: a new weapon in the Culture Wars?
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There's another top-down form of iconoclasm, if you will, which is to do with art appreciation. Notice how in the national gallery you can no longer hire a headset. If art is completely new to you and you have no guide, you have nothing to tell you what is good and what is mediocre. It's designed to put people in the dark about what's objectively good, so as to allow curators to start over but this time based on endorsed narratives and boxes ticked.
Objectively
@@stevecarter8810 Yes, objectively. I went to the civic gallery in Lille recently. The room where all their representational art-work is it's all a bit rubbish except for one painting, which is an English painting, of a woman, and it is by Lawrence. I was able to appreciate it as the best painting in the gallery because I understood that Lawrence is a great painter and especially of women, and so I was able to appreciate it a great deal, possibly more than any local or french national visiting could.
@paulpenfold2352 that would also be a subjective measure
Lol, "what is good and why'. Sounds like propaganda.
@ It's helpful to have an authority take one by the hand and explain why something is good and offer insights that further its appreciation. I think there's more propaganda in deciding to remove all explanatory copy from beside a piece of art in a public gallery than in keeping it there. It's revolutionary and should be explained.
Facts. There’s not a single piece of left wing art in the last 20 years that have been worth its salt
Exactly. Religion makes great art and pretty much nothing else.
Good that she mentions this. There too little attention for it.
Actually what ruins the arts is government funded art. When religion funds the arts, it seems to be more amazing than can be believed.
Don't understand the second sentence, it is a mistype?
Back then in at least 1024, elite folks would respect ART...
they seek him here, they seek him there... B A N K S Y. !
What's most funny about the 3rd kind of of iconoclasm is the sense o hyperteclic judgment most post-modernist ideologues criticize.
Re apologies after burning cows: post marketing protest. I'd be interested to compare these iconoclasts based on that vector of using market principles, ie appeasing conflicting demographics. Also sounds very similar to Trump's habit of making outrageous claims, then playing those claims down. It's attention deficit economy tactics
Weathermen underground 5.0
#Rinsin n repeatin 🧺🧺🧺
You're being replaced.
theres way to many middle class people in the arts.
With too little to do?
Not just Middle Class; quite a lot of them are Upper Class
How do you know its too many? What problem does this bring?
Might be preferable to individuals who haven't even taken the time to develop even the most basic spelling skills. Such statements, with obvious discriminatory undertones, are indicators of a terrifying and divisive future.
Although this young lady raises some interesting points her rhetoric is peppered with bias designed to appeal to a particular demographic. Ad hominem attacks on the character of protesters who I can assure you are not just poor students living off their parents that are involved with those protest groups. I was a an original member of XR but left because I disagreed with their strategy and I disagree with targetting works of art but I don’t dismiss them with flippant denigration while I sit in £100’s worth of fabric wearing an Apple watch.
… At the same time it seems you're not aware of making much more personally targeted ad hominem attacks yourself.