Almost 100 (had to take some time off for family bs), planning to give your build a solid go when I ding. Thanks for making the vid, not many PVP builds out there. Agreed though, Eternal realm will probably be the only end game for PVP'ers Cheers bro
Im really hoping that s2 will bring back alot of the hype for diablo. Blizzard spent so much time nerfing builds they forgot to make people like the game. Only the dedicated diablo fans are currently active Cheers bro
Great guide wanted to try pvp for the longest time but kept getting destroyed instantly after switching to a build as close as i could to this i am now actually able to fight and even doing much better in nmd's. Thanks for the great video dude!
Close quarters key stone is very good for dps in lower level dungeons but you will loose a large amount of sustain from lack of momentum Umbrous is only needed when not running momentum imo. I never have energy problems because momentum provides sustain
for overall content, wrathfull is better. For aoe mobbing ONLY, barber is better. DO not use barber for bossing. if you use it, have two pieces of gear, and only use the barber gem for mobbing/ aoe mapping.
14:35 how do you get stealth resets upon killing someone? I can't seem to find that modifier. Also what is your opinion on temerity/stolen vigor/frostbitten aspect?
Cooldowns reset on kill in pvp zone Temerity doesnt work well due to siphon strike nerfs to rogue. Stolen vigor is necessary at all times. Wouldnt play the game without it. Frostbitten is b tier at best. Good cc but not consistent enough to rely on
@@SolAshur ok thanks for the quick response! I've been using the reworked temerity in pve while levelling (still 74) and it seemed good. Also, thoughts on the barber? I clear pve content MUCH faster with it, especially if I put a couple of points into consuming shadows. While levelling, are there any nodes or glyphs I should rush first?
@solashur I just got the EXACT Bow as you show in the build planner. Is there a reason youre skipping out on core skill damage? Additionally, I was under the impression you can’t crit with poison? Thoughts?
Read the aspect Bursting venoms. Every crit with poison imbued skills has a 10% chance to create a toxic pool that resets imbuements. This not only confirms that you can crit with poison imbue skills but also shows you the importance of crits with imbue skills. Not to mention the majority of your damage on rogue endgame comes from elements. physical damage does not scale anywhere as high. Its better to go for crit dmg for imbue vs core because crit dmg will provide higher intiger dmg numbers due to its multiplcity.
@@SolAshur happy to hear it because the bow I have is identical to what you have in the build guide. You use a sword in the build guide, but double daggers in the video. Is the build guide the most recent version of the loadout?
@shiestyopp3741 its definitely perosnal preference here. In other words, whichever one you get first with the correct affix stats. Or whichever has higher ilvl. I prefer daggers because attackspeed and the stacking dmg to close. However one sword is still okay because of the crit dmg. Its just the fact that crit dmg numbers were nerfed this season so i lean more towards dagger for higher base values. Crit dmg is multiplicave while close dmg is additive so thats something to consider.
Dmg to elites in paragon doesn't work from paragon in PvP I'm also fairly certain that debilitating toxins also doesn't work. Taunt not only works in PvP, it's actually broken overpowered because you are unable to break the CC, it's getting patched in 1.1.1 "Fixed an issue where the Shadow clone's taunt effect from the Trickery malignant power could Taunt other players in PvP, and the taunt was not breakable by Unstoppable effects." Edit: Taunt feels inconsistent cause you need to use trap from long range to proc
Wow. that explains why when I hit with Smoke grenade players stand there for much longer tha intended. lmao; kinda funny not gonna lie. Im curious how it was confirmed that dmg to elites doesnt work from paragon in pvp; although, I dont think its necceary considering most players will die in one imbuement combo anyway. That damage to elite node is mostly for lillith and other bosses. (hoping one day they add Rathma and astaroth, andarial and other major bosses.)
hey man, ive noticed the link to your pvp build is abit different to this video? which is best to follow since the video shows you use dagger the link shows sword and a few other things on there are a tad different
Use the build in the video if you're unsure. The sword is only for those that want to stack the multiplicave crit dmg over additive close dmg. The close dmg on the daggers with the attackspeed is better overall. However..if you get a sword with good affix it is useable
Watch my penshot is dead video please. I really dont support anything other than tb this season. It's really bad and won't clear content properly Best advice i can give you is roll lucky hit on gloves. Use victimize key stone and victimize healing aspect instead of momentum healing aspect. Also use siphon strikes. Your survival will come from lucky hit healing. Everything else is mostly the same other than swapping out encircling blades for penshot aspect on ring
@@SolAshur sweet! Thx for the tip! I already got a tb lvl100 so just want something else! Ill try mix and match! Thx again and goodkuck! May shako dropp upon us🙏🏻
The only difference is the direction my eldritch board faces. I made my ingame one slightly different because i wanted the legendary node first while leveling
Idk if i missed it or not, but doesn't seem like you have any resource Gen? No aspect or even res stat on rings.. you really find you don't need it? For Pve and pvp
momentum gives you 20% resource generation. you dont need more than this unless your mapping (helltides) then I would go for resource gen/crit dmg/crit/ imbuement crit
For your pve when you switch to smoke bomb do you change a lot to your paragon or leave as is? This is my first time playing rogue for season and since I recently hit lvl 100 wanted to change my paragon to a more hp driven board since B8 used a more damage driven board
Nope. I change nothing in the paragon borard; you can clear up to t100 with this same paragon board and build just by switching smoke bomb for shadow clone. Once you get higher hp rolls on your rings/gear, and you exceed over 15k, then you can sacrifice some hp in the paragon board for more dmg nodes. Its your preferance.
Can clear all forms of content up to t100 and lillith. Just replace shadow clone with smoke grenade. Ill be uploading more t100 clears soon. Also yes the build works fine with flurry. Only thing is to change the gloves obviously. Flurry is better for aoe clear pre t55. After t55, the dmg on flurry falls off, especially for bosses. You'd want to switch tb at that point
@@SolAshurIt's not squishy at all when doing t100? I'm checking if I can't beat tb using flurry in PVP tho. Also, didn't bother using shadow step? Not sure if I missed it out on the video.
@@maxx078 I can clear T100 with ease UNLESS im getting hit by certain 1 shot mobs. (penitant knights, or crossbow mobs) One thing to note, t100 is very rng heavy on the affix. If you get elemental affix on the t100 nightmare, its not easily doable because resistances are broken. If you geet normal affixes then thats why you want to run.
Forgive my ignorance but is this one of those twisting blade poison trap builds I’ve been hearing about wrecking in the PvP zone? If so that’s EXACTLY what I’m looking for (I just switched to Rogue from Druid).
This build beats poison trap rogues. While poison trappers depend on their traps for cc and reset, this build has point and click cc with smoke grenade. Also the resets are abundant with both pestilenr + bursting venom resets.
@R0mV0n lmao. Traps cant do anything to an unstoppable player man. Only engage with shadow clone on cooldown. Also use concealment to break cc or shadowstep if you slot that. Always concealment before shadow clone and only shadow clone when poison imbue off cooldown
You've put CSD with imbued / CSD / Vuln / dext-allstats on both weapons, wouldn't it be better to put close % dmg instead of CSD with imbued? EDIT: and any reason why no pure DR % on both armor and pants my man? :D
No sir. Close dmg is additive. Crit strike damage is multiplicative; it will allow you to scale higher with your critical imbued skills. This is where most of your damage comes from. Reasons for no pure dr is simple, Im stacking the most amount of damage reduction by using the values with the highest intigers. Every mob you fight should be poisoned, and either close or distant. If you would like to add flat dr, replace it with distant but this may make you more vulnerable to one shots from Crossbow mobs.
Nice build bro, thanks for explaining everything so well. I want to ask you what kind of druids can put up a challenge. Is it a bulwark/unstoppable build? I tried doing some pvp on my 100 druid as tornado wolf and it was kind of fun, could scrap back and forth with every class except facing rogues who just stun and kills me in 1 second through 20k life, full fortify and 5x topaz... like it's so imbalanced. I know tornado druid is probably not the best pvp build, so wanted to ask what kind of druids you see that can give you a challenge, maybe ill try to spec into that.
Bulkward Landslide build are the only problems for rogues. Ive only seen one of those tbh Tornado wolf doesnt have enough burst to compete with poison rogue. Its the cc from bulwark and the fortify buff that really stops rogue from beating that build.
@@SolAshur thank you, yeah I basically have zero CC as tornadowolf and rely on them standing in my tornados lol. They dont notice they are taking damage until barber explodes and they die. But not the best strategy, still kind of fun though. But its the part about getting stunned constantly and killed instantly in 2 seconds that is my major problem. The damage output is just too gross. I met a barb too that stunned me for like 3 seconds on every rightclick. No diminshing returns, just forever stunned by him pressing his attack skill. Its so bullshit.
@@NervousClearSky barbs always been top bud. hota 1 shots groups of enemies while rogue has to single target or cleave with encircling blades. Also thorns barb is unkillable lol
Thanks a lot for the build bro!! One question, how you have that much of life? You have 13k hp with just helm with hp bonus, and I have HP on pants and rings and full ruby stockeds too. But i have just 6k hp ( lvl 80rogue). How we have that big difference? thanks a lot! And another question, that damage to healthy enemies from weapon mastery, isnt a good choice for the burst damage in pvp? Since you are using 2 daggers. I never saw someone not using 3 points there
your HP will scale DRASTICALLY with your level. Major HP increases come from Helm/Chest/Ring Rolls for HP. Also, the paragon board, once you reach the proper level you will be able to go into the mentioned hp nodes. With max rolled hp on gear, id have closer to 15-16k hp. The damage to healthy enemies is absolutely not worth it compared to the defensive stats you could get. Most threats in pvp will run damage over time (the fire mage, the blizzard mage, poison rogue, poison druid.) You absolutely need to go into these defensive stats and these points can not be taken from anywhere else.
@@SolAshur thnks a lot bro!! I have an 3 weapon mastery amulet, i will let 0 on the skill so i can get 3 points from amulet ( i was with 6 before xd). One last question ( sorry lol), what do you think about dodge and close dodge on pants? or better 1 more DR there?
@arthasbk sounds good homie I believe the best stats outside of imbuement skill dmg and +imbue skills on a amulet are: deadly venom, frigid finesse, and lastly exploit
@@SolAshur nicee! thats a question that i would made to you. Thanks a lot bro, learning a lot with you. I was stacking full defensive on amulet lol. The WM passive, and full DR + armor xdd
@@SolAshur i also feel like i get armour with good bonuses, but then like 5 levels later ill get a weapon that does more damage but doesnt have as good bonuses. same with armour. thoughts on this?
@mcshwaggins the affixs are more important than item level. Its not worth upgrading gear until you have 2 to 3 best in slot affix(s) on an item. Same for weapons. Dont waste your time and materials just go for ancestral gear with neccesary affix(s)
Hey king I've been getting a lot more into pvp lately. I'm a druid main and have actually had some good success in pvp with a few different builds but I know rogue is king so I created/leveled up a rogue just for pvp using your build as my template. Can you walk through, or make a video that kinda covers your rotation?
Main Combo: 3 Puncture (3combo point) -> Poison Imbue -> Twisting Blade x2 or 3 Puncture (3combo point) -> Poison Imbue -> Twisting Blade -> 3 Puncutre -> 2nd twisting blade 1st combo for quick burst, 2nd combo if you cant quickburst target Conceal When Cc'd and reinitiate with maincombo Dash on targets that run when main combo does not work Dash combo: 3 Puncture -> Dash -> Poison Imbue -> Twisting Blade x2 -> Puncture x3 (or until poison imbue reset-> Twisting Blade The dash combo should keep players perma cc'd
Build diversity in PvP is sadly 0, no point on going any route outside of dmg over time builds. Hard hitting just trigger immunities while dots do not and ticks for 10k/sec.
Physical damage is irrelevant for an eldritch glyph board rogue. Your non physical damage scales higher. Its essential to crit with imbuement skills because of the imbuement crit dmg rolls. Ensuring you crit maximizes damage output.
need to swap out shadow clone for smoke grenade. Shadow clone is good for bursting bosses but not as good for mapping. Smoke grenade is all around better pve skill. i have my pve setup up in another guide.
@@jayees8712 the aspect still works yes. It is not as consistant as it was, but it still works. One thing that can be done as an alternative is removing bursting venoms in pvp to replace it with more attackspeed (accelerating aspect or rapid aspect.) Also removing the smoke grenade from dash (aspect of quickening fog) to add in protecting aspect is another good alternative.
we need in game trading market for rares, hate having to use third party sites. We need better global chat so we can create teams. Pvp needs to be more structured so that K/D matters, maybe create 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, team capture the flag etc. PvE needs more end game content with uber unqiues attainable, even better add in the runeword system in D2 to D4.
all respectable feedback man. I couldn't argue against any of this. It would only benefit the game and the diablo community. I would just like to add the build diversity; make it so that there isn't just 1 justifiable build per class Content diversity; add bossing content, mapping content, and more ways to obtain resources. Quality of life features like a loadout option for multiple build and paragon board saves.
If they can put game types for pvp into immortal then you would expect a more full game experience on pc for sure, this game is majorly lacking end game content.. so sad it took d3 8 years to become a good game after they added quality of life changes yet they released d4 in this sorry state as if they learned nothing from d3! talent changer.. stash tabs! A fucking button to take out all paragon points atleast 😂
If they can put game types for pvp into immortal then you would expect a more full game experience on pc for sure, this game is majorly lacking end game content.. so sad it took d3 8 years to become a good game after they added quality of life changes yet they released d4 in this sorry state as if they learned nothing from d3! talent changer.. stash tabs! A fucking button to take out all paragon points atleast 😂
@yousifnasimi3771 youre exactly right. Immortal has so much content because it brings in 4 million or more a month. They are neglecting their pc games..dripfeeding content because it just doesnt compare to the mobile money being made. Hopefully they will give us the expansions and content updates sooner than later
feel like the game isnt built around pvp foreal foreal, and my homies during pre who had bloodlust fell off when the season started. bums me out because i really wanna pvp. i still like shadowstep but seems like dash has more utility. i feel you on the core talk though, but then again, this game is so new still, the pvp community has to kinda assert itself stronger than the ppl who complain about pve drops and nerfs. like you know how arena got into wow like midway into bc and they really started prioritizing formal pvp, with titles and gearsets and whatnot, i think it has time to get there. fields of hatred is fun but it's not serious at all and i wanna take some pvp serious. all that said i know youre gonna be on top of it so ima just keep watchin!
also, you dont like that 'basic skills gain attack speed' aspect? i feel like i get hella mileage off that for stacking combo pts and getting to vuln or daze..
yeah i feel you 100%. exact same thing happened in WoW but wow had dedicated GMS to work on the pvp system. If they even incorporated half the work they did on WoW Into Diablo, this game would be absolutely amazing. We will see what happens when the next expansion comes out. I dont think the game will be truly truly 'great' until the first expansion. Especially considering we're waiting for atleast season 3 for resistance fixes.
@@kenwho i ran that basic atkspeed aspect for a LONG Time. Its amazing for overall gameplay. I just think the core skill grant attackspeed is better for spamming twisting blades with resets. If you catch someone with a bursting venoms u can literally just annhilate them with 4x 5x instant imbue.
Im running with 2 820 lvl poison daggers from giant scorp. Chest armor and rings also with poison dmg. Very interesting gameplay if you like to play like a ninja🤣
Pre season there were a consistent 10 to 15 people in every pvp zone After season 1 and the nerfs, the games population went down the toilet in every zone not just the pvp. Blizzard is taking part in killing their own game.
I sticked on eternal,since i wanted to finish my rogues pvp build and do some nmds here and there but mostly fields of hatred.Gotta say tho,that after the season hit the eternal realm is kinda empty..Atleast the pvp zone isnt as active..You meet ppl here and there(very rearly lvl 100) but the action is missing.I hope it will change.Never thought of dropping step..Might try it.I ended up cutting poison imbue cause i realized i could kill almost as fast with phys dmge blades,in order to have all the means of mobility and unstoppable
Really sucks to hear. Hopefully the devs add more rewards to the pvp asoect of the game. Its really fun but ever since the hota barb nerfs people are afraid of pvp. Lets see what happens on 1st expansion. Don't think much will change on seasons
@@SolAshur true, but I get killed by level 100 players all the time while I'm just farming. I started the season late because I was finishing my eternal barbarian. My rogue is in season 1. I'm level 79 now. I have been getting jumped by level 100 players since I was level 60.
Love your build and how you covered it SolAshur. Thanks! What do you think of this build? ruclips.net/video/F-ICU2kT--8/видео.html Have you run into this kind of rogue in PVP? Thoughts, compared to your TB PVP build?
Ngl i do believe blizzard is focused heavily on diablo immortal. They make so much money from it, it makes sense from a business standpoint. Not willing to spend 5 years grinding for what others obtain spending 100k on a mobile game tho lmao.
@@SolAshur Am I wrong though? I really want pvp to be a thing, but I cant blame people for not wanting to play it. Unless you play rogue or barb, you just get facerolled by those 2 classes. For some reason sorc burn or barb bleed is nerfed to oblivion, like it dont add anything, but rogues poison can from one hit take your full health bar multiple times. Rogue heals more than most classes can damage, while also being extremely tanky AND be able to one shot, all in the same gear. And if you fuck up, which rarely happens for rogues, you just conceal and completely resets, you can still see a concealed rogue, they dont actually get invisible, but you cant do anything to them. double strike or hota barbs, is basicly the same. Their only challenge is a rogue. You cant say that it is copium, to want things to be better, so the gamemode actually gets fun to play.
@zipnn i agree with you. I want the game to be better. But every class competes except necro. Sorcs have insane Perma stagger blizzard build. Barb has thorns plus hota builds Druid has bulwark landslide stagger build Rogue has poison imbue
@@SolAshur if you are trying to say rogue is not OP. You have simply not tried anything else. I have a rogue at 100 and sorc at 100. Sorc: If you are dumb enough to stand in the blizzard, you deserve to die cause they have to stack multiple in one spot before it starts doing damage. Barb: Barbs play double strike now cause it teleports(I think that is double strike, not sure), not hota and still oneshots. I havnt tried it, but it looks like you just shout and then hold down mouse1 on your target and they can never get away. Druid: The only way druid does anything to you with landslide, is if he pulls mobs in and hit you with barber from the mobs. On my rogue, I can in 99.9% of the situations, just hold down TB for 1-2 hits and win cause the poison stack will be so high that they cant heal it. So thats before I have to start using any cooldown. Which just allows me to do the same again. And if they get annoying I just spamm tb for daze and win anyways. If you honestly loose to sorcs or druids, you are doing something very wrong.
Clueless little Troglodyte is clueless. There are like 7 builds WILDLY more broken than anything rogue can do whatsoever. Not even close. Does it require both of your braincells to type dumb shit or just the one?
im usually biased because all i play is rogue. However I will provide objective viewpoint, I have seen barbarians be much more broken. Thorns barbs cant be touched. Hota barb is STILL a thing and it can truly compete. Blizzard sorcs WIN because of perma stagger unless you are good enough to rotate unstoppable buffs every engagement. There are ways to beat rogues, it just depends on the build you play. Also, there is always a point in pvp as when you are new to the world tier, its the easiest way to get good rolled armor. Its also a fun way to grind aspects. Also the skins; though most people have already gotten these skins on eternal.
Got that jazz with tha saxophone playing in the background. My ninja...you got a sub from me
Almost 100 (had to take some time off for family bs), planning to give your build a solid go when I ding.
Thanks for making the vid, not many PVP builds out there. Agreed though, Eternal realm will probably be the only end game for PVP'ers
Cheers bro
Im really hoping that s2 will bring back alot of the hype for diablo. Blizzard spent so much time nerfing builds they forgot to make people like the game. Only the dedicated diablo fans are currently active
Cheers bro
Great guide wanted to try pvp for the longest time but kept getting destroyed instantly after switching to a build as close as i could to this i am now actually able to fight and even doing much better in nmd's. Thanks for the great video dude!
Of course bro. I always try and balance for pvx for any build i choose. Its important to have that diversity and still chunk through content
Great video man. any thoughts on using Close Quarters and/or Umbrous ?
Close quarters key stone is very good for dps in lower level dungeons but you will loose a large amount of sustain from lack of momentum
Umbrous is only needed when not running momentum imo. I never have energy problems because momentum provides sustain
Any changes to this build? Mybe barber now?
Would you recommend barber over the current wrathful heart?
for overall content, wrathfull is better.
For aoe mobbing ONLY, barber is better. DO not use barber for bossing. if you use it, have two pieces of gear, and only use the barber gem for mobbing/ aoe mapping.
Any updates to this build how’s it been ?
14:35 how do you get stealth resets upon killing someone? I can't seem to find that modifier. Also what is your opinion on temerity/stolen vigor/frostbitten aspect?
Cooldowns reset on kill in pvp zone
Temerity doesnt work well due to siphon strike nerfs to rogue.
Stolen vigor is necessary at all times. Wouldnt play the game without it.
Frostbitten is b tier at best. Good cc but not consistent enough to rely on
@@SolAshur ok thanks for the quick response! I've been using the reworked temerity in pve while levelling (still 74) and it seemed good. Also, thoughts on the barber? I clear pve content MUCH faster with it, especially if I put a couple of points into consuming shadows. While levelling, are there any nodes or glyphs I should rush first?
@solashur I just got the EXACT Bow as you show in the build planner. Is there a reason youre skipping out on core skill damage? Additionally, I was under the impression you can’t crit with poison?
Thoughts?
Read the aspect Bursting venoms. Every crit with poison imbued skills has a 10% chance to create a toxic pool that resets imbuements. This not only confirms that you can crit with poison imbue skills but also shows you the importance of crits with imbue skills. Not to mention the majority of your damage on rogue endgame comes from elements. physical damage does not scale anywhere as high. Its better to go for crit dmg for imbue vs core because crit dmg will provide higher intiger dmg numbers due to its multiplcity.
@@SolAshur happy to hear it because the bow I have is identical to what you have in the build guide.
You use a sword in the build guide, but double daggers in the video. Is the build guide the most recent version of the loadout?
@shiestyopp3741 its definitely perosnal preference here. In other words, whichever one you get first with the correct affix stats. Or whichever has higher ilvl.
I prefer daggers because attackspeed and the stacking dmg to close. However one sword is still okay because of the crit dmg. Its just the fact that crit dmg numbers were nerfed this season so i lean more towards dagger for higher base values.
Crit dmg is multiplicave while close dmg is additive so thats something to consider.
Dmg to elites in paragon doesn't work from paragon in PvP
I'm also fairly certain that debilitating toxins also doesn't work.
Taunt not only works in PvP, it's actually broken overpowered because you are unable to break the CC, it's getting patched in 1.1.1
"Fixed an issue where the Shadow clone's taunt effect from the Trickery malignant power could Taunt other players in PvP, and the taunt was not breakable by Unstoppable effects."
Edit: Taunt feels inconsistent cause you need to use trap from long range to proc
Wow. that explains why when I hit with Smoke grenade players stand there for much longer tha intended. lmao; kinda funny not gonna lie.
Im curious how it was confirmed that dmg to elites doesnt work from paragon in pvp; although, I dont think its necceary considering most players will die in one imbuement combo anyway. That damage to elite node is mostly for lillith and other bosses. (hoping one day they add Rathma and astaroth, andarial and other major bosses.)
i dodnt know debilitating toxins doesnt work on pvp lol
Yeah, that bug has people that are trash thinking they're good lol.
@@intricategod thats kinda insane. lmfao
@@intricategod and the barber bug? iam getting exploding in 0,2seg by that heart lool
hey man, ive noticed the link to your pvp build is abit different to this video? which is best to follow since the video shows you use dagger the link shows sword and a few other things on there are a tad different
Use the build in the video if you're unsure.
The sword is only for those that want to stack the multiplicave crit dmg over additive close dmg. The close dmg on the daggers with the attackspeed is better overall. However..if you get a sword with good affix it is useable
yo nice build but im sooo bored of TB... i want to make a penshot pvp build any tips or general help? :D
Watch my penshot is dead video please. I really dont support anything other than tb this season. It's really bad and won't clear content properly
Best advice i can give you is roll lucky hit on gloves. Use victimize key stone and victimize healing aspect instead of momentum healing aspect. Also use siphon strikes. Your survival will come from lucky hit healing.
Everything else is mostly the same other than swapping out encircling blades for penshot aspect on ring
@@SolAshur sweet! Thx for the tip! I already got a tb lvl100 so just want something else! Ill try mix and match! Thx again and goodkuck! May shako dropp upon us🙏🏻
Yo quick question. Your paragon board with Bane is different on the planner than it is on this video. Does that make a difference?
The only difference is the direction my eldritch board faces.
I made my ingame one slightly different because i wanted the legendary node first while leveling
Did this got nerfed during the patch yesterday?
No it was actually buffed due to rugged strikes increase in dr
Idk if i missed it or not, but doesn't seem like you have any resource Gen? No aspect or even res stat on rings.. you really find you don't need it? For Pve and pvp
momentum gives you 20% resource generation. you dont need more than this unless your mapping (helltides) then I would go for resource gen/crit dmg/crit/ imbuement crit
For your pve when you switch to smoke bomb do you change a lot to your paragon or leave as is? This is my first time playing rogue for season and since I recently hit lvl 100 wanted to change my paragon to a more hp driven board since B8 used a more damage driven board
Nope. I change nothing in the paragon borard; you can clear up to t100 with this same paragon board and build just by switching smoke bomb for shadow clone.
Once you get higher hp rolls on your rings/gear, and you exceed over 15k, then you can sacrifice some hp in the paragon board for more dmg nodes. Its your preferance.
You should try a pure rapid fire PvP build I do not see many rapid fire pvp players at all sadly
100 lvl vs 85 and he is like im destroying ppl jesus ur ego
Uhh i did say they were not a challenge due to levels
Bro you are a Rogue and they are the most over tuned class. So much skill playing Rogue. Lol, so trash.
How does this build do in PvE? Is it also viable for Flurry? Awesome build. Tanky, has a good number of cc break, insane damage. Looking to follow it!
Can clear all forms of content up to t100 and lillith.
Just replace shadow clone with smoke grenade. Ill be uploading more t100 clears soon.
Also yes the build works fine with flurry. Only thing is to change the gloves obviously. Flurry is better for aoe clear pre t55. After t55, the dmg on flurry falls off, especially for bosses. You'd want to switch tb at that point
@@SolAshurIt's not squishy at all when doing t100? I'm checking if I can't beat tb using flurry in PVP tho. Also, didn't bother using shadow step? Not sure if I missed it out on the video.
@@maxx078 I can clear T100 with ease UNLESS im getting hit by certain 1 shot mobs. (penitant knights, or crossbow mobs)
One thing to note, t100 is very rng heavy on the affix. If you get elemental affix on the t100 nightmare, its not easily doable because resistances are broken. If you geet normal affixes then thats why you want to run.
With maybe a few changes I’m sure How’s this run in pve?
Thanks for making these vids man.
Thanks for supporting homie
Forgive my ignorance but is this one of those twisting blade poison trap builds I’ve been hearing about wrecking in the PvP zone? If so that’s EXACTLY what I’m looking for (I just switched to Rogue from Druid).
This build beats poison trap rogues. While poison trappers depend on their traps for cc and reset, this build has point and click cc with smoke grenade. Also the resets are abundant with both pestilenr + bursting venom resets.
@@SolAshur I dunno man these darn trappers are wrecking me regardless lol problem must be between keyboard and chair.
@R0mV0n lmao. Traps cant do anything to an unstoppable player man. Only engage with shadow clone on cooldown.
Also use concealment to break cc or shadowstep if you slot that. Always concealment before shadow clone and only shadow clone when poison imbue off cooldown
You've put CSD with imbued / CSD / Vuln / dext-allstats on both weapons, wouldn't it be better to put close % dmg instead of CSD with imbued?
EDIT: and any reason why no pure DR % on both armor and pants my man? :D
No sir. Close dmg is additive. Crit strike damage is multiplicative; it will allow you to scale higher with your critical imbued skills. This is where most of your damage comes from.
Reasons for no pure dr is simple, Im stacking the most amount of damage reduction by using the values with the highest intigers. Every mob you fight should be poisoned, and either close or distant. If you would like to add flat dr, replace it with distant but this may make you more vulnerable to one shots from Crossbow mobs.
Nice build bro, thanks for explaining everything so well. I want to ask you what kind of druids can put up a challenge. Is it a bulwark/unstoppable build? I tried doing some pvp on my 100 druid as tornado wolf and it was kind of fun, could scrap back and forth with every class except facing rogues who just stun and kills me in 1 second through 20k life, full fortify and 5x topaz... like it's so imbalanced. I know tornado druid is probably not the best pvp build, so wanted to ask what kind of druids you see that can give you a challenge, maybe ill try to spec into that.
Bulkward Landslide build are the only problems for rogues. Ive only seen one of those tbh
Tornado wolf doesnt have enough burst to compete with poison rogue. Its the cc from bulwark and the fortify buff that really stops rogue from beating that build.
@@SolAshur thank you, yeah I basically have zero CC as tornadowolf and rely on them standing in my tornados lol. They dont notice they are taking damage until barber explodes and they die. But not the best strategy, still kind of fun though. But its the part about getting stunned constantly and killed instantly in 2 seconds that is my major problem. The damage output is just too gross. I met a barb too that stunned me for like 3 seconds on every rightclick. No diminshing returns, just forever stunned by him pressing his attack skill. Its so bullshit.
They nerfed bursting venom. 😢
Yeah, barbs top 1 pvp now.
where did you see this? The aspect still works the same. Also no mention of a bursting venoms aspect nerf in the most recent patch.
@@NervousClearSky barbs always been top bud. hota 1 shots groups of enemies while rogue has to single target or cleave with encircling blades.
Also thorns barb is unkillable lol
Thanks a lot for the build bro!! One question, how you have that much of life? You have 13k hp with just helm with hp bonus, and I have HP on pants and rings and full ruby stockeds too. But i have just 6k hp ( lvl 80rogue). How we have that big difference? thanks a lot! And another question, that damage to healthy enemies from weapon mastery, isnt a good choice for the burst damage in pvp? Since you are using 2 daggers. I never saw someone not using 3 points there
your HP will scale DRASTICALLY with your level. Major HP increases come from Helm/Chest/Ring Rolls for HP. Also, the paragon board, once you reach the proper level you will be able to go into the mentioned hp nodes. With max rolled hp on gear, id have closer to 15-16k hp.
The damage to healthy enemies is absolutely not worth it compared to the defensive stats you could get. Most threats in pvp will run damage over time (the fire mage, the blizzard mage, poison rogue, poison druid.) You absolutely need to go into these defensive stats and these points can not be taken from anywhere else.
@@SolAshur thnks a lot bro!! I have an 3 weapon mastery amulet, i will let 0 on the skill so i can get 3 points from amulet ( i was with 6 before xd). One last question ( sorry lol), what do you think about dodge and close dodge on pants? or better 1 more DR there?
@arthasbk sounds good homie
I believe the best stats outside of imbuement skill dmg and +imbue skills on a amulet are: deadly venom, frigid finesse, and lastly exploit
@@SolAshur nicee! thats a question that i would made to you. Thanks a lot bro, learning a lot with you. I was stacking full defensive on amulet lol. The WM passive, and full DR + armor xdd
fire video bro. i feel like i get gear has so many different bonuses so i dont realy know what i should focus on for pvp
You'll understand in due time. Took me about 300 hours before the game started to really click
@@SolAshur i also feel like i get armour with good bonuses, but then like 5 levels later ill get a weapon that does more damage but doesnt have as good bonuses. same with armour. thoughts on this?
@mcshwaggins the affixs are more important than item level.
Its not worth upgrading gear until you have 2 to 3 best in slot affix(s) on an item. Same for weapons. Dont waste your time and materials just go for ancestral gear with neccesary affix(s)
@@SolAshur thank you. Is ancestral gear a type of gear that caps at a certain level?
@mcshwaggins ancestral gear is whats obtained in world tier 4. You need level 60 minimum for your first pieces
Hey king I've been getting a lot more into pvp lately. I'm a druid main and have actually had some good success in pvp with a few different builds but I know rogue is king so I created/leveled up a rogue just for pvp using your build as my template. Can you walk through, or make a video that kinda covers your rotation?
Main Combo: 3 Puncture (3combo point) -> Poison Imbue -> Twisting Blade x2 or
3 Puncture (3combo point) -> Poison Imbue -> Twisting Blade -> 3 Puncutre -> 2nd twisting blade
1st combo for quick burst, 2nd combo if you cant quickburst target
Conceal When Cc'd and reinitiate with maincombo
Dash on targets that run when main combo does not work
Dash combo: 3 Puncture -> Dash -> Poison Imbue -> Twisting Blade x2 -> Puncture x3 (or until poison imbue reset-> Twisting Blade
The dash combo should keep players perma cc'd
@@SolAshur you're an absolute legend. Take this sub and membership.
@@neoniconn5145 haha much love bro. Welcome to the fam
Build diversity in PvP is sadly 0, no point on going any route outside of dmg over time builds. Hard hitting just trigger immunities while dots do not and ticks for 10k/sec.
Why imbument crit?
Physical damage is irrelevant for an eldritch glyph board rogue. Your non physical damage scales higher. Its essential to crit with imbuement skills because of the imbuement crit dmg rolls. Ensuring you crit maximizes damage output.
Thanks for sharing brooo
Thanks for being first homie 🙏🏾
how does this do in pve?
need to swap out shadow clone for smoke grenade. Shadow clone is good for bursting bosses but not as good for mapping. Smoke grenade is all around better pve skill.
i have my pve setup up in another guide.
Solid build man but more than that you understand the play style to max the way the build works. Respect bro.
Love bro
nice build but is it still playable ??
100% yes. there were no nerfs to this build.
thx :) the poisonpool aspekt is working too lol ? @@SolAshur
@@jayees8712 the aspect still works yes. It is not as consistant as it was, but it still works.
One thing that can be done as an alternative is removing bursting venoms in pvp to replace it with more attackspeed (accelerating aspect or rapid aspect.)
Also removing the smoke grenade from dash (aspect of quickening fog) to add in protecting aspect is another good alternative.
thx for your help :)@@SolAshur
we need in game trading market for rares, hate having to use third party sites. We need better global chat so we can create teams. Pvp needs to be more structured so that K/D matters, maybe create 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, team capture the flag etc. PvE needs more end game content with uber unqiues attainable, even better add in the runeword system in D2 to D4.
all respectable feedback man. I couldn't argue against any of this. It would only benefit the game and the diablo community.
I would just like to add the build diversity; make it so that there isn't just 1 justifiable build per class Content diversity; add bossing content, mapping content, and more ways to obtain resources. Quality of life features like a loadout option for multiple build and paragon board saves.
If they can put game types for pvp into immortal then you would expect a more full game experience on pc for sure, this game is majorly lacking end game content.. so sad it took d3 8 years to become a good game after they added quality of life changes yet they released d4 in this sorry state as if they learned nothing from d3! talent changer.. stash tabs! A fucking button to take out all paragon points atleast 😂
If they can put game types for pvp into immortal then you would expect a more full game experience on pc for sure, this game is majorly lacking end game content.. so sad it took d3 8 years to become a good game after they added quality of life changes yet they released d4 in this sorry state as if they learned nothing from d3! talent changer.. stash tabs! A fucking button to take out all paragon points atleast 😂
@yousifnasimi3771 youre exactly right. Immortal has so much content because it brings in 4 million or more a month.
They are neglecting their pc games..dripfeeding content because it just doesnt compare to the mobile money being made.
Hopefully they will give us the expansions and content updates sooner than later
@@SolAshur there will be no1 left to buy the xpac at this rate lol
feel like the game isnt built around pvp foreal foreal, and my homies during pre who had bloodlust fell off when the season started. bums me out because i really wanna pvp. i still like shadowstep but seems like dash has more utility. i feel you on the core talk though, but then again, this game is so new still, the pvp community has to kinda assert itself stronger than the ppl who complain about pve drops and nerfs. like you know how arena got into wow like midway into bc and they really started prioritizing formal pvp, with titles and gearsets and whatnot, i think it has time to get there. fields of hatred is fun but it's not serious at all and i wanna take some pvp serious. all that said i know youre gonna be on top of it so ima just keep watchin!
also, you dont like that 'basic skills gain attack speed' aspect? i feel like i get hella mileage off that for stacking combo pts and getting to vuln or daze..
yeah i feel you 100%. exact same thing happened in WoW but wow had dedicated GMS to work on the pvp system. If they even incorporated half the work they did on WoW Into Diablo, this game would be absolutely amazing. We will see what happens when the next expansion comes out. I dont think the game will be truly truly 'great' until the first expansion. Especially considering we're waiting for atleast season 3 for resistance fixes.
@@kenwho i ran that basic atkspeed aspect for a LONG Time. Its amazing for overall gameplay. I just think the core skill grant attackspeed is better for spamming twisting blades with resets. If you catch someone with a bursting venoms u can literally just annhilate them with 4x 5x instant imbue.
Im running with 2 820 lvl poison daggers from giant scorp. Chest armor and rings also with poison dmg. Very interesting gameplay if you like to play like a ninja🤣
Those rares are the easiest way to get entry level gear. Very good to start out the world tier
I’ll take that fade on my level 75 Barb
LMAO NAH U dont want the smoke
@@SolAshur 😂
I only play Diablo for pvp and it’s been very disappointing to see how little action there is
Pre season there were a consistent 10 to 15 people in every pvp zone
After season 1 and the nerfs, the games population went down the toilet in every zone not just the pvp.
Blizzard is taking part in killing their own game.
Bro you still active??
Im on a business trip in amsterdam. Will be back active towards the beginning of October
No more d4? Is it that bad now? 😂
Eh. Yeah i tried playing this season it just isn't compelling enough to justify the grind
eternal pvp is completely empty every time I go there :(
damn bro. very very very sad day.
We need gear pvp loadouts and gear pve loadouts. This switching back & forth vs pve, is too much..I need revenge!! 😅 it's alot of thirsty ppl
Fucking sucks respecting for pve then for pvp then back to pve also re doing the paragon board for pvp. They need to add loadout saves like in D3
You dont have to respec for this build
But yes.. pleass add loadoutz blizzard
I sticked on eternal,since i wanted to finish my rogues pvp build and do some nmds here and there but mostly fields of hatred.Gotta say tho,that after the season hit the eternal realm is kinda empty..Atleast the pvp zone isnt as active..You meet ppl here and there(very rearly lvl 100) but the action is missing.I hope it will change.Never thought of dropping step..Might try it.I ended up cutting poison imbue cause i realized i could kill almost as fast with phys dmge blades,in order to have all the means of mobility and unstoppable
Really sucks to hear. Hopefully the devs add more rewards to the pvp asoect of the game. Its really fun but ever since the hota barb nerfs people are afraid of pvp.
Lets see what happens on 1st expansion. Don't think much will change on seasons
Pretty basic Rogue build. Id like to see it against level 100 druids and barbs
Kinda hard when nobody plays the game
@@SolAshur true, but I get killed by level 100 players all the time while I'm just farming. I started the season late because I was finishing my eternal barbarian. My rogue is in season 1. I'm level 79 now. I have been getting jumped by level 100 players since I was level 60.
@@SolAshur I just got killed this morning while farming, got jumped by a level 100 Korean player and a few other douchebags. Go get em.
@@erickirshner2810 lmfaooo bruh. This is kinda hilarious 🤣
@@SolAshur they PVP is packed. I just got the ear of a lv 97 rogue. I'm only lvl 80.
Pc players have advantage over console players.
Theres some crazy aim assist for controller users. Us there's only 6 skills. I dont think theres much of an advantage
Love your build and how you covered it SolAshur. Thanks! What do you think of this build? ruclips.net/video/F-ICU2kT--8/видео.html Have you run into this kind of rogue in PVP? Thoughts, compared to your TB PVP build?
Nice Vid but the game is dead and pvp in it sucks. Diablo Immortal is the way to go.
Ngl i do believe blizzard is focused heavily on diablo immortal. They make so much money from it, it makes sense from a business standpoint.
Not willing to spend 5 years grinding for what others obtain spending 100k on a mobile game tho lmao.
Your class is completely broken. Nothing will be a challenge as long as you play rogue.
Lmao you came to a rogue build guide to say this
Sheesh the copium you must smoke
@@SolAshur Am I wrong though?
I really want pvp to be a thing, but I cant blame people for not wanting to play it.
Unless you play rogue or barb, you just get facerolled by those 2 classes. For some reason sorc burn or barb bleed is nerfed to oblivion, like it dont add anything, but rogues poison can from one hit take your full health bar multiple times.
Rogue heals more than most classes can damage, while also being extremely tanky AND be able to one shot, all in the same gear. And if you fuck up, which rarely happens for rogues, you just conceal and completely resets, you can still see a concealed rogue, they dont actually get invisible, but you cant do anything to them.
double strike or hota barbs, is basicly the same. Their only challenge is a rogue.
You cant say that it is copium, to want things to be better, so the gamemode actually gets fun to play.
@zipnn i agree with you. I want the game to be better. But every class competes except necro.
Sorcs have insane Perma stagger blizzard build.
Barb has thorns plus hota builds
Druid has bulwark landslide stagger build
Rogue has poison imbue
@@SolAshur if you are trying to say rogue is not OP. You have simply not tried anything else.
I have a rogue at 100 and sorc at 100.
Sorc: If you are dumb enough to stand in the blizzard, you deserve to die cause they have to stack multiple in one spot before it starts doing damage.
Barb: Barbs play double strike now cause it teleports(I think that is double strike, not sure), not hota and still oneshots. I havnt tried it, but it looks like you just shout and then hold down mouse1 on your target and they can never get away.
Druid: The only way druid does anything to you with landslide, is if he pulls mobs in and hit you with barber from the mobs.
On my rogue, I can in 99.9% of the situations, just hold down TB for 1-2 hits and win cause the poison stack will be so high that they cant heal it. So thats before I have to start using any cooldown. Which just allows me to do the same again. And if they get annoying I just spamm tb for daze and win anyways.
If you honestly loose to sorcs or druids, you are doing something very wrong.
Clueless little Troglodyte is clueless. There are like 7 builds WILDLY more broken than anything rogue can do whatsoever. Not even close. Does it require both of your braincells to type dumb shit or just the one?
build is bottom tier.
There is no point to pvp in this game when rogues are as broken as they are.
Just not a fun experience.
im usually biased because all i play is rogue. However I will provide objective viewpoint, I have seen barbarians be much more broken. Thorns barbs cant be touched. Hota barb is STILL a thing and it can truly compete. Blizzard sorcs WIN because of perma stagger unless you are good enough to rotate unstoppable buffs every engagement.
There are ways to beat rogues, it just depends on the build you play.
Also, there is always a point in pvp as when you are new to the world tier, its the easiest way to get good rolled armor. Its also a fun way to grind aspects. Also the skins; though most people have already gotten these skins on eternal.
@@SolAshur dont forget trample bulwark druid with barber, and heart that pulls enemies while ult is active. that build is insane
@@ELY-qg2vn indeed. Its very very difficult to beat a min maxd bulwark druid as a rogue
Every class is op, just learn to play it
@@repomang facts
farming lvl 80-90 on lvl 100 lol trash
lmk when you hit lv 100 and ill farm you too kid
@@SolAshur y ? hehe come lol i deleted you on my lvl 95 rogue lol
@@jkaly1 oh thats why u salty. U died on video. Lmao
@@SolAshur i am waiting on you noobs for time on duel...be quick dont wory..
@@jkaly1 SolAsher#11429 add me up
Rouges are bstrds button!
Lol the hate