Sim Skunk Works Fiat-Aeritalia G-91 Review | Full Flight | Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020
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In this video we test out the Sim Skunk Works Fiat G-91 in Microsoft Flight Simulator.
Departing from Aviano military airbase, we take a blast around the Italian Alps, putting the aircraft through its paces. Throughout the flight I give my initial impressions of the aircraft.
Please note this video and all its contents / materials, is for entertainment / simulation purposes only.
PC Specs
ASUS B150M-A
Intel Core i7 6700K 4GHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
32GB DDR4 2133MHz
Hardware
Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog
Saitek Pro Flight rudder pedals
HP Reverb WMR headset
TrackIR5
Earthquake Shell Shoxx transducer
Enjoy the flight!
*IMPORTANT NOTE*
Weapons are only available on the G91, when the aircraft is purchased outside of the MSFS Marketplace / through a 3rd party provider (Microsoft does not allow any aircraft featuring munitions, to be sold via the Marketplace).
I would like them to develope a Hawker Hunter....
Me too! That would be awesome : )
Classic British aircraft are always rather underrepresented in sims. . .
@@IntotheBlueSimulations : Imagine the whole package, A T9, Mrk 4, Mrk 6 etc...
Wouldn’t that be nice! I imagine in due course Just Flight might bring their version to the sim. I’ve long been after a Hunter or some type of old British jet in DCS as well, but British jets seem to get no love over there unfortunately. . .
I don’t know if you’ve seen, but I have a little Mach Loop series running on the channel. EE Lightning has been covered, I plan to do the Hunter and a host of other classic British aircraft in due course. Might be of interest : )
Regarding the brakes, the issue is that the Autobrakes setting in the config is ON when it should be off. Here is the way to fix it: G.91 folder should be in the FS2020 Community folder. Inside the simskunkworks-aircraft-g91 folder, open the folders Simobjects/Airplanes/simskunkworks-aircraft-g91. Once there, look for and open the systems.cfg file in Notepad. Look for the following entry and change the auto_brakes from 3 to 0:
[BRAKES]
auto_brakes = 0 ; This value is the number of "positive" settings, not including OFF. '0' means NO AutoBrake
hydraulic_system_scalar = 1 ; On brakes dependant on the hydraulic system, ratio hyd system to max brake hyd pressure
This will also provide a smoother landing touchdown.
Thanks very much for the great info! : )
I found that cycling the park brake also sorted the issue, but it’s good to have a proper and more permanent fix! I’m sure it’ll get patched in the next update as well.
Can anyone confirm, if changing the loadout changes the plane parameters? For example, if there is an extra fuel pod, you can extend your max range in the game by adding it.
I can confirm that. You can fill the tanks in the loadout app. They add drag to the plane and unlike the weapons they cannot be dropped (until next update).
I haven’t had a chance to look into whether they actually extend your range (though that seems to be confirmed by the other poster), but they definitely effect the aircrafts handling characteristics yes : )
Thanks for the info! : )
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure Fabiano! Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it : )
Bought the plane also, it doesn't feel realistic, fly high, throttle down complete , flaps down, gear down, speed brake enabled and pull the elevator, it will not stall, just drop the nose about 10-15°. i was sinking with 80-90 knots no problem. the brake bug is annoying, doing a nice landing and it feels like you took off with parking brake on. the roll rate is also extremely high, the plane feels very twitchy, also when flying circles, its like jumping through the curve. patch needed!
Ah nice . Great to hear the opinion of someone who has flown the Fiat-Aeritalia G-91 in real life .
Hi Gary,
Agreed a patch at some point would be good, I expect we’ll get one. Just for interests sake, I tried some of the same tests as you. Stall-wise, agreed. The aircraft doesn’t really stall properly, however, I did just about manage to get it into a spin (that was very easy to recover from), so it’s not completely devoid of realism at low speed. I would say the issue here is as much with the sim as anything else. No aircraft in the sim behave very well at the edges of the flight envelope currently.
Brake bug is very annoying. There’s an issue with the aircrafts config file, autobrake is set on by default. Again, hopefully this will be patched, I can send you the details of how to fix it yourself if you like though?
Roll rate is high, but I don’t think it’s a million miles off (again just comparing with the DCS Sabre), could probably do with toning down a bit though I agree (though for all I know, it may in fact be accurate).
It does feel a little twitchy to fly, but personally I actually quite like how it feels, especially once you’ve got some speed up. Again though, possibly a little tweaking to smooth things out a little wouldn’t go amiss.
I’m afraid I didn’t quite understand your last point?
Again, hopefully we will get a patch, I know the developers are still working on it (internal sounds coming I believe for example).
Thanks for sharing your feedback : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks for the reply. I really like the jet, but what i said is kinda annoying sometimes. I also had a spin with another jet, guess it was the mb-339 or the f-15, not sure right now and it recovered also easy. i mean when you fly a curve and pull on the elevator, it does not go smooth through it, feels like small jumps , maybe it is part of the twitchyness. i didn't understand, why people critisise my complains it's just what i found and thought it should be adressed, but that is internet, thanks for your answer :=)
Yes, it definitely has some things that need tweaking, improving or fixing. I suspect most of them will be though. Again, I suspect some things need improvement in the sim itself, rather than the aircraft specifically. I know SSW are still working on the G91, so hopefully we’ll see some improvements soon : )
Ah, I see what you mean. Yes, as I mentioned in the review, I find the elevator control to be a bit twitchy at the moment (whereas roll and yaw are nice and smooth). I don’t know if this is accurate or not, but I suspect probably not.
Thanks again for your comments, it’s always good to hear other people’s constructive feedback.
Purchased from marketplace but the sim crashes every time I try to load the G-91. Tried even to delete and re install the aircraft.. anyone having these issues?
Hi MSN,
Are you running DX12 (as opposed to DX11)? That’s been causing crashes with quite a few addons more recently. Otherwise, I’m not too sure what might be causing the crashes but on a positive note, apparently the aircraft is soon to be updated to V3, so hopefully that might fix up any CTD issues in the process.
All the best!
Great review and excellent video! I purchased this add-on after watching your review, and have no regrets whatsoever. It's an awesome aircraft and is already one of my favorites.
Also, just a quick note about your comment regarding missing sounds in the cockpit. According to the hints file included with the aircraft, the following is an explanation for the missing sounds:
"LEGACY SOUNDS
- Due to copyright issues we cannot distribute WWISE sound packages, so external sounds are legacy, internals sound absent.
- Soon will publish a free add-on package with native WWISE sounds."
Looks like internal (i.e. cockpit) sounds are coming!
Happy flying all!
Thanks very much for the great info / news!
I was a little bit surprised with the sounds, as SSW have always done switch sounds etc in the past. That makes sense then, glad it will be sorted!
Thanks man. Really glad you’re enjoying the product, it’s quickly become one of my favourites as well! : )
Great review and a detailed flight in the G-91, I am very excited about the MSFS 2020 Sim Skunk Works F-104 series coming soon. Thank you.
Thank you very much sir, glad you enjoyed it!
Likewise! I own the P3D version of the SSW F104; definitely can’t wait to try it out in MSFS! : )
The Fiat g91 has many bugs, the first one is the gauge of artificial horizon, if you do a left bank the bank indicator should indicates on the left the degrees of bank, instead indicates on the right and viceversa, I'm a real pilot and all airplanes works like that.
Second the landing gear doesn't move if you click with the mouse the stick but only if you click the panel behind it, and normally in fs2020 you can move the landing gear just using the mouse wheel.
Then the maneuverability in rolling is weird, it moves accellerating in rolling that makes it unstable, in pitch is so terrible to maintain, and the engine works bad like you have a propeller.
Another thing is that if you move the flap you won't see it on the cockpit, so you cannot understand the position of the flap.
I tried the Aermacci and the F16, and they're working fine and very smoothly.
Thanks for the info WTME,
I wonder if some of those bugs haven’t crept in due to sim updates; I don’t recall the G-91 having too many issues at the time (not the ones you mention anyway). The artificial horizon I may have missed (bad of me if I did!) and I always use a keybind for raising / lowering the gear to be fair (so wouldn’t have noticed that).
As far as the aircrafts handling goes - I thought it flew quite nicely at the time, but again things may have changed since it was released. If it’s really uncontrollable, always worth looking / checking to see whether you have the sim’s flight model set to “Modern” as opposed to “Legacy”?
The flap situation may or may not be accurate to the real-world aircraft. Usually Sim Skunk Works are pretty good when it comes to cockpit detail, so if there’s no flap gauge, that *might* be realistic (although if I recall correctly, I think there is a flap gauge on the G-91?).
Either way, sorry you aren’t having a great time with the aircraft. Whether that’s bugs caused by updates, or otherwise, it’s not ideal.
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations i have changed and tried everything, i use fs2020 since the first day it came out, so i solved all the bugs until now, i know all the bugs or developers mistakes in that sim, anyway it's the plane for sure, i found even that the g91 was bank on the left no touching anything, so i discovered that from default the airplane when you start the flight it has the rudder left trim activated, so i found the button in the cockpit and deactivated, it turn on in any flight making the g91 not maneuverable.
FYI I use fs2020 with expensive simulator hardware and in VR, i fly on fs2020 turn off all the assistance, making fs2020 very difficult to use, but of course i do that because i need to have a realistic simulation otherwise i cannot use for my training, i use to fly in VFR making the routes and calculations using a real aeronautical chart without any help, so i fly in a professional way, I'm not using fs2020 as a game.
I have an issue where when i put flaps down, pull engine power back and set up for landing, the engine exterior noises go away. very frusturating
That’s very odd. I’m afraid I have no idea what might be causing that. Is the engine still running when you pull the power all the way back? I wonder if your controller bindings / setup isn’t triggering a fuel cut-off or something?
Also worth mentioning that SSW just updated the G91 with lots of improvements. If you haven’t updated already, definitely worth it and hopefully it might solve you issue at the same time : )
I bought the G91 and I haven't figure out yet what to do to stop the permanent beeping sound in the cockpit, (the parking brake is released and as soon as I accelerate just a little bit, the sound starts, someone help me please...
Hi Nelson,
If memory serves me correctly, that’s due to the canopy not being locked. By default, when loading the aircraft, the canopy will be closed, but not locked. I seem to recall the locking handle is either on the left, front, lower side of the canopy frame, or down on the left, forward, main panel.
Let me know if that helps. All the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations wow! thank u so much, now I can fly without that annoying sound, the thing now is that after taking off my gear does not get up, when I use the mouse it shows me with letters the landing gear, but that does not move at all, I try using the letter G, but nothing happens either, please let me know if you know the secret, thanks a lot.
Haha great, glad we got you sorted on that one!
Hmm, well it’s probably the same issue as with the canopy really. By default, even if you start with the engine running, the aircraft is not configured ready for flight. You will need to turn on the inverter, hydraulics, JPTL etc (if I remember correctly). I would suggest watching through the startup process in this video and making sure you’re aircraft is configured in the same fashion - the systems should all be working correctly then : )
Let me know how you go with that and whether you manage to make any progress.
All the best!
The brakes may be a sim fault. This happened with every aircraft until I went into Controls and made adjustments.
For me, it’s only happened on this aircraft. Seems to be an issue with the config apparently. Auto brake is on by default. I found that cycling the park brake fixed the issue for me (before I’ve had a chance to fix the aircraft config itself).
Thanks for the suggestion though : )
Now I'm waiting for a BF-109
Haha. I think maybe I’m missing something here Henrik. . .
Do the G91 and the BF-109 have any connection, or do you just really like the BF-109? : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations there are so many fighters coming to Msfs but the most iconic German fighter is missing. Theres no connection between the g91 and the Messerschmitt though.
Ahh, I’m with you! I thought maybe the G91 and 109 had somehow ended up in combat against one another in some obscure conflict I didn’t know about or something haha.
Well, it might be a while before we see a 109 in MSFS, but I’m sure we’ll get one eventually : )
at 3m24sec, are you using VR or a mouse to move the camera around?
It’s actually neither. I’m using a device called TrackIR, which is basically a head tracking device. It’s great, but a little pricey. There are also some freeware alternatives available, should you wish to try this sort of thing for yourself : )
So, how does this and the F-104 stack up these days? With Xbox getting the WASM fix next week, I think we might have a shot at getting these in the marketplace.
Hi David,
Sim Skunk Works aircraft are a little bit trickier to recommend these days, sadly. I haven’t flown the G-91 in some time, so can’t attest as to the state of that, but the F-104 has some issues (namely the afterburner drops out above 10,000ft) and these don’t seem to have been addressed by the dev in some time. In fact, SSW seem have been rather “radio silent” of late, so I’m wondering whether the products will see any further support. . .
I hope that helps answer your question somewhat. Great news that the console finally has the WASM fix, I hope you’ll enjoy some of the new addons making their way over!
Cheers, all the best : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations hmmm, that makes me sad. Although, wasm planes coming to Xbox might be a decent video idea for you. Some ‘aging’ sim airplanes and what you’d still recommend to us. I appreciate the response on this old video. I suppose I’ll save my money on these and just pick up the Corsair when it’s available to us.
It is a real shame to be honest. I don’t know what happened - SSW have been making pretty high quality addons for years. Maybe they’re just taking some downtime and they’ll be back. . .
That’s actually a really good video idea and I was about to jump on it haha, but then I realised I’d have to install a whole host of older / unused addons (and fully test each of them again). Unfortunately I just don’t have the time for that at the moment, but one would hope that any addons making it over to the console, would have been updated accordingly by the developers. . .
The Corsair is excellent and well worth waiting for. It does have some issues with its flight model at the moment, but MILVIZ are working on an update as we speak : )
Cheers David!
Great video mate, thanks.
I too am very much enjoying this aircraft, I feel as far as release day 3rd party aircraft go it is a strong start with the issues that you correectly highlighted being easily fixed for the most part.
The developers have been very active on the official forum since release, supporting users and taking note of feedback which is fantastic.
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it! : )
Yeah, it’s a solid product already. I sort of knew it would be, having owned SSW products in the past. Always felt they go a little under the radar as a developer, given the quality of their products. As you say, most of the issues should be easy fixes (I’ve already had some contact me with a fix for the brakes) and apparently a sound update is on the way (it just had to be provided separately for legal reasons apparently).
I have no issues with a product having minor bugs, as long as a developer is willing to fix them. It’s great to hear the SSW team are taking feedback onboard etc (again, having dealt with them myself in the past, they were very helpful).
Cheers, all the best!
Is this coming to the MSFS store?
I believe it will be yes : )
(Sim Skunk Works are waiting on Microsoft / Asobo approval currently; this process can take quite a while)
what jet as for now gives the best experience to fly in flight sim 2020?
Ooo, that’s a tough one David!
I haven’t tried the F15 or the Eurofighter personally, but I think we can say they aren’t currently great offerings anyway. .
Really for me, it’s between the MB339 and the Fiat G91. As of now, the MB339 is the more complete and polished product. The G91 still needs a few fixes here and there, but I believe they are on the way. For my money though, as far as the flight experience goes, the G91 can’t be beat (in MSFS). The MB339 is great fun, but just doesn’t have the “oomph” that the G91 does. The MB339 feels like a trainer and the G91 feel like a fighter (surprise surprise I know haha).
If you want a good all-rounder, I would probably recommend the MB339. If you want a jet to have fun in, fly low level, offer a bit of a challenge etc, I would choose the G91 personally.
Sorry it’s a bit non-committal. Always tricky to answer these types of questions! Hope it helps : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thank you !!!! really appreciated.
My pleasure David! All the best : )
The Gear down not working on mine on PC. Not sure what is wrong with it.
I’ve heard a couple of other people mention the same thing QGU. Haven’t had the chance to try the G-91 for myself in a while, but I’d hazard a guess that one of the sim updates broke something along the way unfortunately. . . Hopefully it gets fixed up sooner rather than later.
Cheers!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thanks for that. I thought I was going nuts. Hope they fix it one day.
My pleasure! As I say, haven’t tried it for myself, but I don’t think you’re going mad haha! : P
All the best : )
Just downloaded and installed but when I try and fly with xbox controller it's virtually impossible to control and keeps spinning left or right and seems super sensitive to any input on the controller. Any ideas why this might be happening or is it not compatible with an Xbox controller?
Hi Lionel,
Sorry to hear that. I’m afraid I haven’t been able to try it with a controller personally. The aircraft is generally quite sensitive and susceptible to upsets with abrupt / large control inputs. I suspect that an Xbox controller exacerbates this unfortunately.
I’m not sure that there is an “fix” specifically, but I imagine playing around with the controller sensitivities would be the only way of minimising the issue. I know it’s not an ideal solution though. That’s all I can think of really. Sorry I can’t be of more help. . .
Hope you have some luck sorting it out!
Actually, just as an update;
SSW will be releasing an update very soon (probably within the next 24hrs), including a flight model update. So you might find that that (hopefully) resolves some of your issues.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks for the replies. Changing from LEGACY to MODERN flight model resolved the issue.
Ah, yes, that will do it! : )
Actually though, SSW released an update to the product recently with more liveries, better sound engine, updated flight dynamics etc. Worth a download!
am I the only one having an issue with the stores management? it only shows the two external tanks, I can't pick any ordinance
Ah, I’m guessing you purchased the aircraft through the in-sim Marketplace?
Unfortunately Microsoft will not allow any aircraft featuring weapons to be sold through the Marketplace. Sim Skunk Works had to remove the munitions to sell the G91 in-sim (the aircraft does still come with the ability to load weapons, if purchased from a 3rd party).
At the time of this review, the aircraft was only sold by 3rd parties, I’m afraid I had no idea this would later be the case. Sorry about that.
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations damn, that sucks. Thanks for the info
You’re most welcome.
Yeah, they should really make it clearer on the Marketplace. I’m sure you’re not the only one who’s been caught out by that. It does suck, but I hope you enjoy the G91 nonetheless! : )
Quite a nice looking model. Been using the fsx version of the g-91 and f104g. Great aircraft but I seem to be getting the "unprotected version" banner even though i got it via simmarket.
Yeah, they’ve done a nice job with it : )
I have the F104 in P3D as well, looking forward to it coming to MSFS!
I’ve heard of the problem you describe, never had it myself though. Might be worth re-downloading, as I believe SSW changed their installer process a while back, such that it’s much more straightforward now. If all else fails, might be worth getting in touch with SSW directly, I’ve found them to be very helpful in the past : )
is this plane out yet
It is indeed! Not available from the in-game Marketplace yet, but you can get it from elsewhere, Simmarket for example : )
When there is an update, would I be able to auto-update or is it something I have to download and install again? It's not on the MSF store , so I wonder If this is an anoying process to install and maintain.
Hi Rafael,
Unfortunately you are correct. As the addon is not on the MSFS store currently, if you buy it externally, you will have to manually update it. So yes, it could get a little bit annoying keeping it up to date.
I believe (like most addons) the developers are ultimately looking to introduce it to the MSFS store, but this process seems to often lag about 1-3 months behind the product being released elsewhere. Worth waiting in my opinion.
Ideally I would only purchase through the MSFS store, but with reviews etc, I tend to purchase as and when it becomes available.
Hope that helps : )
Very nice review. I like that you show the aircraft in mid day sun. So many reviewers do their reviews in early morning or late day light. With that you can’t really see the interior or exterior very well. You also did not incorporate music which I really appreciate. Thanks! Looking forward to your next review.
Thanks very much Jim, glad you enjoyed it : )
Yes, as nice as the sim looks in low lighting conditions, as a viewer I always find it a little frustrating watching dark videos. I’m afraid as far as music goes, I do usually enjoy throwing a little musical montage into a lot of my videos. I appreciate it’s not to everyone’s taste, but I usually have one to help break up long sections in the cruise, or as an “artistic” piece etc (not throughout the video itself).
Hopefully see you back on the channel at some point in the future then. All the best!
Was the elevation update installed for all clients? I can't seem to find it in my update list.
Hello again Duppers,
I’m afraid I’m not quite sure what you’re referring to re an “elevation update”?
@@IntotheBlueSimulations When I load into the game, it lists various updates on my screen. It also says Elevation Update with an ! in front of it.
Huh. I’m afraid I have no idea what that could be, or what it means. Outside of a full reinstall, I’m not sure how you would fix it either. Sorry I can’t be of more help.
All the best!
One thing that spoils immersion is not having regional accents for the ATC. It would be great to have differnent TTS voices for different parts of the world (Which the add-on PF3-ATC does)
You know some people would complain about it being racist or something
Yes, that would be awesome! I was hoping the reason they had overhauled the whole ATC system (which I find to be a significant step back from the FSX one) was because they were planning to do something along these lines. Who knows, maybe they are in the future. In this day and age, you wouldn’t think it would be too hard to achieve. . . I also can’t believe we still don’t have voice recognition for the user ATC communications. Long overdue ha!
Cheers : )
AVIANO, AFB. I recognized the mountains
Indeed it is : )
Absolutely stunning area to go for a fly in!
I'm not into Military aircraft in normal flight sims, keep them in military Sims. BUT MY GOSH DO I LOVE THE G91
A few months ago, I would have completely agreed with you. I don’t think I’d ever purchased a military aircraft for a non-combat sim (other than the A2A warbirds). I picked up the MB339 to review it, thinking maybe I wouldn’t get too much future use out of it, but I still hop in it from time to time. One thing that’s missing in most military sims is an open world. Blasting around in mountains and valleys all over the planet, or carrying out a NAV ex etc can be brilliant fun! I never run mock combat in them or anything.
The G91 isn’t perfect yet, but I’ve been having a blast with it so far! Used it every day since I purchased it : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I love the G91s to bits. They have a great story. Look up Military Aviation history visualised on RUclips, Chris aka Bismarck has done a video on it where he gets into the cockpit of one irl.
Ahhh, I was trying to remembers where I’d come across the G91 recently(ish), you’ve solved the mystery! I love that channel : )
Actually never got around to watching the vid though, I will definitely go and watch it as soon as I get the chance.
Thanks, all the best!
Pretty good texturing and detail within that cockpit. I'm impressed, as someone who flies DCS mainly :)
Yeah, it’s a really solid effort overall.
Not up to DCS standards, but I wouldn’t expect it to be. It’s also not at the same price point to be fair. It would be nice to see a few more classic jets in DCS as well though! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah my impression is that msfs2020 has not reached such standards of DCS yet. In terms of flight modelling or representation of it (the way the aircraft shakes or behave differently depending on the situations)... I have the mb339 on both platforms but I find the DCS's one more realistic (even though is not the finished product), not in performances of the aircraft or differences since they quite perform the same but in feelings maybe.. I think msfs2020 still need some time to achieve that level, cause I don't think it's modders fault, but something that has to do with the flight model itself which I have to say, it has been improved lot from the launch... simply miss something... You may disagree with me, but I'd like to know what you think about it.. (maybe make a video comparison?)
@@IntotheBlueSimulations DCS should have MSFS ground graphics. After MSFS I just cant look at cartoonish ground textures of DCS
I believe DCS is actually getting a bit of a graphical upgrade again soon (albeit to the clouds etc rather than the ground)? I actually don’t mind the ground textures too much in the sim (though I agree they can look a bit cartoonish at times), I’ve always just felt the DCS maps are a bit too small and restrictive. You can cross most of them in
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Msfs has stolen hype from DCS. For me dcs clouds will be like meh already seen that.
And yes ability to go and fly like in real world is much more fun rather than fight with broken and buggy radar, scripted chaff flair and no electronics warfare with game freezes and chppy fps.
Dcs has some chance in WW2, engine management is still fun while dogfighting.
Just bought. Imo the best fighter in the game yet (I've tested the mb339, eurofighter and f15 before)
It is really detailed and many switches in the cockpit work. The performance is also really good compared to other planes.
Glad you like it Henrik! I would have to agree. I would say the MB339 is on a par in terms of quality, but I really enjoy the increased aircraft performance of the G91. I also like it, as I tend to find older aircraft are more interesting generally.
Enjoy! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations they are similar in quality but the g91 has some features like this parachute and the bombs and all that. Still both are perfect
I would like to see it Vs another fighter !
I have 600 hours on g91, the real one, apartfrom the grafic details this simulation is looking VERY far from truth. Both on ground and in flight. But i think it is quite common on FS
Hi Alberto,
Firstly, how brilliant! I’m sure it must have been excellent, blasting around in such a machine back in the day. I actually had another ex-G91 pilot stop by on this video a while back. . .
That’s a shame to hear regarding the flight model, but I can’t say I’m too surprised. As you say, MSFS is still currently missing some of the fundamentals, to really create simulation-quality flight models (I think). I’m also not sure that Sim Skunk Works aim to produce aircraft, that would be considered accurate by those that actually flew them. Again though, it’s a shame that the flight model isn’t a little more representative of the real world aircraft (we’d all enjoy it more if it was I’m sure). I gather there is a G-91 in development for DCS; it’s possible that might be a more enjoyable option for you, as DCS generally has far superior flight modelling versus MSFS.
Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge! All the best : )
Maybe the stutters were because of the speed and it was loading scenery more often.
Quite possibly Andrew yes. My internet connection is pretty fast, but only WiFi, so not the most stable and my machine is getting a bit old as well now. I’ve also been experiencing more stutters since the recent update unfortunately.
Anyway, I think it was definitely a sim / system issue, rather than an aircraft specific issue (in fact now that I remember, I saw multiple people saying they were getting stutters in the same area, so maybe it’s a specific scenery issue).
What an amazing fighter jet !
Thanks very much Løu, glad you liked it! I can’t take all the credit, I think the beauty of the G91 and the Italian mountains did most of the work for me! ; )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations don't say that the way you orchestres it everytime is great! Love this aircraft fog me it's one of the best actually by far. Looks like Mirage IIIS cockpit and hunter that's true
Haha, well thanks man! : )
Yeah, I would agree, it’s one of the best to come to the sim so far. SSW have always been a good developer, but somehow went a bit unnoticed until now.
is it 6 DOF?
I’m not sure I quite understand. Do you mean; can you move around the cockpit in 6 DOF? If so, indeed you can. I use a head tracking device though, with the default camera controls it is a bit more fiddly.
Hope that helps answer your question? : )
It’s just an awesome developed plane, in VR it’s much more fun! Sim Skunk Works should do an F-4F Phantom. It would be a blast!
Completely agree! I would love an F-4, as it’s my favourite aircraft of all time! The SSW F104 should be out next month though, another very cool aircraft, that I’m very much looking forward to.
All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations awesome! I didn't know that, cool...
...well then you should feel pretty comfortable watching my videos😎
Milviz confirmed official that the F-4 Phantom will be updated to MSFS but they take their time...😅
Oh really? I will have to check your vids out then! : )
Yes, sounds like the whole MILVIZ catalogue will be coming over more or less. They really do have some excellent aircraft, so whilst the wait is painful, I’m sure it will be worth it!
Cheers!
Beautiful add on. Although I have a strange problem I seem to be losing power as I fly and inexplicably the aircraft will stall over wing in a tightish turn with full power on and drop out of the sky like a bag of washing machines.
Hmmm, that’s very odd. . . first thing I always ask (and apologies if it’s an obvious point), but do you happen to have your sim flight model set to “Legacy” as opposed to “Modern”? That often causes strange behaviours like this.
Cheers
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Yeah thanks for reply I have it on modern. You wouldn't by any chance know where could one grab the pdf
Hmm, that is strange then. The only other thing I can think of is that perhaps sim update 5 broke it somehow. . .
I’m afraid I don’t have the addon to hand right now, but usually the PDFs are located in the specific addons folder (ie the G91s folder) - inside your community folder. Often there is a folder called documentation.
I hope that helps. If you need more help let me know and I’ll have a look on my PC when I get the chance.
Cheers!
I have purchase the plans that you have Review, that you have recommended. And it thave been good Review.
Hi Talnes,
Thanks very much! Glad you found the review useful. Enjoy the G91! : )
I’m really late to the party on this one. But I purchased this plane based off your review and I love it.
Ah great David, I’m very happy to hear that you’re enjoying the addon! As they say; “better late than never” : P
I really like the feel of the G-91 and funnily enough, was thinking to myself only the other day, that it was about time I took another outing in the aircraft.
Happy flying and all the best! : )
No compatible flight simulator 2020
I’m afraid I don’t quite follow; what isn’t compatible, the G91? Sim Skunk works did produce the aircraft previously for P3D etc; indeed that version isn’t compatible with MSFS. This version is specific to MSFS and was working well the last time I tried it - unless it has been broken by a recent update?
All the best : )
How to get weapons or missiles to the plane
Hi Indrit,
It depends on where you purchased the addon from? If you purchased from the in-sim Marketplace, then unfortunately weapons are not an option (as no addons with weapons, are allowed to be sold through the Marketplace). If you purchased through a 3rd party, then I do briefly outline the process in the video, but I’ll be happy to point you in the right direction if you’re stuck.
Cheers! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations thank you i buy in marketplaces..If is inposible i try to fly with you in formacion..
Ah yes, then I’m afraid weapons aren’t an option (a real shame that Asobo does that). I generally always fly online (unless I’m recording a video). If you see me kicking around in the virtual world, feel free to come form-up and say hi! : )
Cheers
Dear sir, I bought Fiat G-91 from the FS2020 Market. I can't fly it because the ailerons are uncontrollable. Any suggestions? Thanks and best regards
Hi Giuliano,
Hmm, that’s a strange one, not one I’ve heard before haha. When the G91 starts on the runway, although the engine is running, many of the cockpit controls are not set correctly. From memory, turning on the hydraulics is one of the things you have to do. That would be my initial guess (that perhaps the hydraulics system is not turned on?). When you say uncontrollable, do you mean they literally don’t work, or just that the aircraft is very difficult to fly? If it’s the latter, make sure you have your flight model set to “Modern” within the sims settings.
Let me know if either of those are of any help? All the best! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Thanks a lot my friend for the answer. I'll ck the Sim setting, in fact the ailerons are extremely sensitive. By the way, I flew the real one in 1960 and the ailerons were very sensitive but not so much :-D
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I checked the relevant switches than I searched for "flight model set to “Modern” within the sims settings" but was unable to find the item...is it in the aircraft config file? In this case could you tell me where to find that file? Thank you again. For a former G-91 pilot is frustrating not been able to sim/flying it...
Hello again Giuliano,
The setting you’re looking for can be found under “Options” - “General Options” - “Flight Model” from the main menu. At the top of that page there will be a big tab saying either “Modern” or “Legacy”. You need to have it set to Modern for almost all 3rd party aircraft to work properly. Setting it to Legacy often causes some of the problems you’ve described. Let me know how you get on with that and then we can go from there.
Best of luck! : )
Haha, well apologies for trying to tell you how to operate the aircraft then Giuliano (often I have people looking for help, who are unfamiliar with the aircrafts systems) XD
That’s awesome that you flew the real G-91; must have been quite the ride back in the day! : D
Well hopefully we can at least get you back up in the virtual skies, with some slightly less sensitive ailerons haha!
lake Auronzo!
Ahh, thank you! : )
Is there a functional TACAN/VOR/DME receiver on board?
I believe not David. There is ADF and what they term a “PHI” (Position and Homing Indicator I believe).
The PHI can be used a little like a VOR. Essentially you program in your route (max of 5 waypoints) and it will give you your bearing and distance to the selected waypoint.
To program the route though, you have to edit a document in the aircrafts folder, for each flight you want to make. A little user unfriendly. You can save multiple flight plans and load the one you want though. It’s fiddly, but I suppose it’s somewhat realistic, as presumably some sort of data cartridge etc would have been loaded before the flight.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations ah! Thanks for the info. Of course the seventies jets used ins. Sounds bit like the CIVA ins navigation without the CIVA set in the cockpit? So you have to input Lat/Long coords, into a file? It would be nice if you could use the MSFS flight plan, but if your limited to five waypoints, I can see that may be difficult. I think SSW did a Tornado sim a few years ago and that used a similar system. I'd be more excited if it was a Tonka! Thanks again.
Yes David, you’ve got the right idea. Basically just filling in a formatted document with the LAT / LONG of your desired waypoints. I’m actually thinking I will do a little tutorial video on it soon. I agree it would be nice to be able to use your MSFS flight plan, I was somewhat surprised that you couldn’t. Maybe that will come later with SDK development.
Indeed! I own the SSW Tornado, a very nice jet it is too (for the most part). I’m definitely hoping they bring it to MSFS at some point : )
All the best
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes please, a short tutorial on the nav ins would be good. Navigation is important in a fast jet. The VRS Superbug is a favourite of mine. I'd be ecstatic if it came to MSFS. But without Tacpac there's no shooting! Let's leave that to DCS! Cheers.
Been working on the video today, should be out fairly soon : )
Never tried the VRS, but I hear great things. I never used to purchase military aircraft outside of DCS, but I have to say, I’ve been having a lot of fun in MSFS with them so far!
Cheers, all the best!
Does it have some sort of Autopilot? Basic HDG / ALT hold?
Nothing I’m afraid. Not even a flight director. It’s all on you! ; )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Ok thx, thought it might have something like the MIG21 Sau Recovery - which you can abuse as a alt/hdg hold : D
You’re most welcome : )
Haha, the MiG21 has been in my DCS hangar for a loooong time now and I still haven’t taken the time to learn how to fly the poor thing. I’ll have to rectify that at some point. . .
Aviano: 15 Km da casa mia!
Wow! Sei fortunato! Che bella zona in cui vivere : )
Spero di non essere stato troppo rumoroso durante il decollo allora : P
@@IntotheBlueSimulations Dovresti sentire gli F 16 e compagnia cantante durante le loro missioni! Grazie per aver condiviso questo bel video, dal realismo incredibile.
P.S.: Ai tempi mi sono divertito tanto con il MFS X!
@@albertoarcudi8431 Deve essere bello vedere regolarmente gli F16, anche se sono sicuro che fanno un sacco di rumore ahah!
Piacere mio! Sono davvero contento che ti sia piaciuto il video.
Grazie e tutto il meglio : )
does it land in a carrier with arrester hook?
I don’t believe the aircraft has an arrester hook does it Luis?
Currently though, as you have to use the HDS carrier module or a similar plugin to get carriers working in MFSF, in theory you can actually land anything on a carrier.
So you could land this aircraft on a carrier if you’re using HDS.
I hope that answers your question?
All the best!
Hey guys,my landing gear won’t go down
Hi Gary,
That’s very strange / annoying. Not sure what would be causing that. SSW actually just brought out a major update to the G91. Might be worth downloading and giving that a try, if you haven’t done so already?
@@IntotheBlueSimulations just bought it Saturday
Hmm, that is strange then. My hunch would be a possible control binding issue? It’s only this aircraft that is affected?
I’m running the updated G91 as well, not experiencing the same issue on my end.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes
Just tried the G91 again today. No issues with the landing gear on my end Gary.
You have the generator and inverters on etc (I know by default these are not on when the aircraft loads on the runway)?
Nice review as always! Love this plane despite the few bugs. The Fiat G91 was used by the Italian aerobatics team “Frecce Tricolore” before the Aermacchi MB-339 took its place.
Thanks Andrea! : )
Yeah, it’s a great aircraft as it is, I’ve flown it everyday since I purchased, very enjoyable! If they can just give us some internal sounds (which I believe are coming) and a few minor fixes, it will be a very solid product, especially for the price!
Ahh, is that so? I didn’t actually know the Frecce Tricolore used it. When I think of them, I can only think of the MB339 hehe. It’s funny how many addons for the sim have been Italian aircraft so far, just occurred to me the other day. . .
All the best!
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I have a decommissioned Fiat G91 (PAN version) at like 200m from my Italian house and it's has got "Freccie Tricolore" livery, very close to the one on the PAN MB-339. Very nice! I'm flying it more and more. Still have to decide which one I prefer between the two :) And yes... I'm pleasantly surprised by the number of Italian add-ons :)
Ah cool, very nice indeed! : )
Yeah, it’s a tough call between the MB339 and the G91! I think the MB339 is more “pleasant” to fly, but the G91 is perhaps just a little more “fun”, with its higher speed etc. I’m still missing not having any internal sounds in the G91, but once we get those, I think the G91 might just be my winner; which is impressive as the MB339 is already excellent! : )
Great flying, thanks for the review. Looks good I'll buy.
Thanks very much Michael! Glad you found it useful.
Hope you enjoy your time in the G91 then! Happy flying : )
The bane of all War Thunder top tier players
Haha! I’ve never actually tried my hand in War Thunder (I keep meaning to), but I keep an eye on things. Seems there are always new aircraft additions to it, that then make life miserable for every one else! : P
the gear up is the problem airplane and the buttons no function please repair the bugs
Hi Carlos,
You might want to try a reinstall. I’ve had no problems with the landing gear or clicking any of the switches (that are modelled).
Are you using a Honeycomb yoke by any chance? I believe that causes some conflicts with the aircraft.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations i fly X52 hotas saitek
This jet as a turbine model flies very well
Do you mean the sim version, or you have flown an RC version? : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations
Sorry I meant RC model😇 I saw this model powered with a jet engine do a knife edge past from one end to the other side at a airport 😬ruclips.net/video/rvWL5ql22vc/видео.html
Haha, wow! At first I thought I’d clicked on the wrong link and was looking at a real G91 ha!
What a lovely model, such amazing attention to detail. It amazes me how intricate and large some of these RC aircraft are getting now! I used to go to quite a few RC shows as a kid, things have definitely moved on a lot from then! : )
@@IntotheBlueSimulations yes sir ...these guys put alot of work with detail...working flaps and speed brakes, wheel brakes...I have a Mb339 model and I sometimes use DCS Simulator to practice before putting one of these rc in the air😇
ruclips.net/video/f1QRTH2cydQ/видео.html
Lovely! Must be good fun : )
I was wondering actually, is VR making its way into RC aviation? Maybe VR isn’t quite the right terminology, but presumably these days you could fit a camera to the aircraft and feed the image to a pair of VR-style goggles. Does anyone do such a thing? : )
Thanks for the info
You’re most welcome! : )
Hi Guys this aircraft is brilliant in VR ,, interior is stunning and realistic..great work Skunk Works...great informative video luv it. worth every dollar and more..spund is absolutely immersive...GOLD
Thanks very much John : )
Yeah, she’s really nice in VR as well! Didn’t get a chance to try it in VR until after the review, but I’ve been flying it more or less on the daily since. Great fun and well worth the price as you say!
I’m pleased it’s put SSW on the map a little more. They always seemed to have been overlooked a bit in the past. . .
Great review, but how do you drop the bombs?
Thanks very much : )
Someone else posted a vid on how it’s done:
ruclips.net/video/gZA3p3QbNAo/видео.html
But essentially, you arm the plane up, un-guard the “bomb release” switch (I think it’s called) on the lower left panel (one of the big red guarded switches) and then you need to press whatever key etc you have assigned to “water rudder up and down” in the sim controls.
When you hit the the water rudder key, the bombs will come off the rack.
Yes great review as usual is the plain for sale in flight sym if so i cant see it , mind you i am having some issues in the sym my flight distance circle seems to be very intermittent.
Thanks again Andy : )
No, it’s not currently available in the sim I’m afraid. As far as I could tell, it’s only available from Simmarket at the moment. Not sure whether there are plans to bring it to the in-game Marketplace or not. . .
Seems almost everyone has one issue or another with MSFS unfortunately. I’ve been pretty lucky overall, but still had the odd peculiarity pop up here and there. Hopefully as time goes on, all these things will get sorted.
@@IntotheBlueSimulations I fond the problem on my sym as they say in the computer world the issue was between the seat and the key board lol so not an issue just me.
Just a quick question is the reason they are not able to fly at mac speed due to the mapping just cant render quick enough even the MB 339 at full speed at low level seems to beat the mapping.
Hahaha, that’s not an expression I’ve heard before, but it’s one I’ll definitely be using in future! : P
I believe it’s actually a flight modelling issue rather than anything else. Essentially the aerodynamics for supersonic flight haven’t been modelled into the sim yet. Quite what this means in terms of how the aircraft react I don’t know. From what I’ve read (and I could be wrong here), it seems the F15 is incapable of supersonic flight in the sim, the Eurofighter can do it (but I guess the flight dynamics might be all dodgy). Either way, it’s not really a viable option at the moment. I think an aerodynamics update for the sim is due “soonish” though
All the best
Nice rewiev! Thank you!
Thanks very much Sándor, glad you enjoyed it! : )
The more addons the better!
Absolutely! : )
Great content - great flight
Thanks William, glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, the route is spectacular, I highly recommend trying it out : )
Good review
Thanks as always Rachel : )
Very good review 👍
Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed it : )
This is a great addition especially in VR.
Indeed it is! I haven’t had a chance to try it out in VR yet myself, but I’m really looking forward to doing so! : )
Cheers