@@nfsneptune3285 They pulled out of endurance and now they're badly underperforming in F1 so many people don't like them or how they're performing right now. They're saying redemption is for Aston to come back to endurance again.
@@altoes8884 Not to mention the pathetic state of their road car division.... The bright spot? The Vulcan was an animal and the GT8 and GT12 were finely tuned drivers' cars of the highest order. Whenever Prodrive gets involved, Aston Martin's road cars are right up there with the best in the world. And before that they could stand on their own two legs - the V12 Vantage and V8 Vantage exist. This thing, the Valhalla, and the road Valkyrie should be enough to elevate Aston Martin back to Porsche and McLaren's level. SHOULD. But sending this thing to Le Mans (regardless of how it performs) is crucial for street cred.
Nvm this thing did around 1:53 and Hulkenberg did 1:38. If we're being generous and say the Valkyrie driver wasn't pushing as hard, this is still at the very least a 10 second gap. Gives insight into how monstrously fast F1 is.
@@koalawithchaingun53 If it is 10 seconds slower then it's as fast as a Toyota GR10 LMH car. This is basically an LMH car without regulation. That would speak very poorly of the job that Aston, Multimatic and RBAT did, if a regulation free LMH car can only compete with a regulation LMH car. Perhaps that's why they pulled the plug in the 1st place. Looking at their actual F1 struggles wouldn't surprise me.
@@c1x5w89 I don't think that changes anything, the rule changes pretty much changed the class to be slower, this was something that Aston was partly in favour of. The LMH racing today is slower than the version that was originally proposed. The fact that the car being a derestricted version of that chassis is slower than a homologation LMH car doesn't bode well for the proposed project.
I hope Stroll pumps some money and get this car to Le Mans, I get why he is focusing on F1 for branding, but being mid/back marker team in F1 compared to a potential front possible winning team in Endurance seems like a much better prospect to me. But I'm not a multi billionaire business man soo....
@@Ikrom04 He "said it" in such ambigious words that it didn't really mean anything. This is the literal quote: "I think we should be racing - as we are with GT3 and GT4 - in whatever category aligns with the message we are trying to deliver with Aston Martin." yet was instantly reported as "VALKYRIE TO LE MANS".
@@deggis4 @Ahmad Ikrom Izzuddin Jambak yeah..and you know? I think was lying a little bit because they're have been reports of AMF1 wanting to make their own engine in 4 years depending on the new power unit regs. If that's the case, no money for WEC and also remember that their other hypercar, the vahalla, had aston martin's own new v6 engine until they THREW THAT AWAY.....AFTER YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT ....for a mercedes hybrid v8 engine. Money well spent...I guess.
@@deggis4 Because that's kinda what it seems like. They have Prodrive on standby. The car is CLEARLY fast enough to blow a BoPed Hypercar to pieces already. If they don't do it, then it's a missed opportunity. Simple as.
Considering Ferrari is a household name in Motorsport and Aston used to be somewhat I was shocked when they didn’t enter cars in the LMH for the opening year of the hypercar class. AMR has the perfect baseline, Ferrari iirc is going to field a car and I’m hoping Mercedes or McLaren bring in a car. I want to see a more competitive field,
So for a second I thought this thing was dead. Guess not. Aston Martin HAS this thing ready.....and Hypercar is right there. That class....will never be very interesting but it'd be useful for this thing to turn up and bump the grid numbers. Plus, it's clearly a crowd-pleaser.
Wonder what's the real speed if they were going all out The car clearly has a lot of downforce since it's able to brake so late into the corners (maybe its also cause of ABS/stability control?)
Definitely not all out Probably 80% Remember it's not in production yet so the safety features aren't final Even the Aston Martin f1 drivers said they were scared after driving the Valkyrie AMR Pro, both in a good way and bad way
@@gustavo_paganelli F1 cars are like 10-20s faster than LMP1 cars around a race track as short as Spa Francorchamps The Valkyrie AMR PRO is definitely not faster than the fastest LMP1 cars like the Porsche 919 and Toyota GR LMP car Aston Martin aren't as good at making cars as people think, look at their F1 car for example They are very good at building hype but in the end ... Nothing
@@william_SMMA I just did some quick math with the laptime from the video, and if it was at 80% speed, it could do 1.30-1.40 at 100%, but I also don't think it's that fast
@@gustavo_paganelli you seem to be taking my "80%" far too seriously They are obviously not pushing it to the max but at most they'll shave off 5 seconds off their lap It's not faster than the fastest LMP1 cars and it's definitely nowhere near the F1 times of 1 min 34s around the Bahrain track
The car porpoises. The original project had active aero and suspension to counter this. I wonder if it still does, given that rumour says that RBAT abandoned the project to Aston last year.
It is bumps but also might be proposing to some extent given it’s also a ground-effect car. Original AMR Pro project was meant to be more akin to a closed-wheel F1 car with a Valkyrie engine revving up to 12 or 13k
@@robertgudd7196 there’s an old video that was posted by Mobil1 of an interview with Adrian talking about the Valkyrie, towards the end he briefly discusses the AMR Pro and says that (about raised rev limit)
Nope, well supposedly not. Last word indicates that Aston and RBR weren't on good terms, Newey dropped it to focus on F1 was the last word. Would sound odd to me given Newey's previous obsession with sportscars but that's what was reported. Anyway, RBAT completed their contractual obligation to build the car and then supposedly also dumped the project to Aston. That's what I last read anyway.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Well, you can time the lap looking at when it crosses the start/finish line - and it's 1:54. Which is not very fast. But, this being just a presentation, the lap probably - hopefully - wasn't representative of the car's ultimate pace. For comparison, the F1 pole was 1:30, LMP1 is at 1:39, LMP2 at 1:43, and F3 and LMH at 1:46. It would only beat GTE and GT3 cars which are at 1:55 and 2:00 respectively.
@@test987665 I see, well it's using a LMH chassis with some mods and they did say they could reach LMP1 pace, I suspect we won't see too much more than that. They were saying the roadcar had similar pace to LMP2.
Best sounding thing in Bahrain GP weekend
This Aston would be a safety car F1 drives wouldn't complain about
Aston can still redeem themselves if they bring this to Le Mans
Redeem themselves from what?
@@nfsneptune3285 have you not seen how bad they are in F1?
@@altoes8884No I haven't but I guessed it was something to do with F1.
@@nfsneptune3285 They pulled out of endurance and now they're badly underperforming in F1 so many people don't like them or how they're performing right now. They're saying redemption is for Aston to come back to endurance again.
@@altoes8884 Not to mention the pathetic state of their road car division....
The bright spot? The Vulcan was an animal and the GT8 and GT12 were finely tuned drivers' cars of the highest order. Whenever Prodrive gets involved, Aston Martin's road cars are right up there with the best in the world. And before that they could stand on their own two legs - the V12 Vantage and V8 Vantage exist.
This thing, the Valhalla, and the road Valkyrie should be enough to elevate Aston Martin back to Porsche and McLaren's level. SHOULD. But sending this thing to Le Mans (regardless of how it performs) is crucial for street cred.
What an awesome car. Unreal fast. Nice work for uploading this.
This is so cool A ground effect car in this new ground effect era of f1
Would be a nice safety car for F1
Well not really, it's almost as fast as the F1 cars themselves 🤣
@@npanic628 ye it's fast enough to actually compete in the top class of wec
@@starlord7636 it's quite a bit faster than LMH i would think.. more power, no aero restrictions...
@@npanic628 yup
@@npanic628 and doesn't have to last 24 hours, so a lot of things are optimized for the hot lap or 10 laps at most
That wing is gorgeous
Make this thing the F1 safety car
Not possible
I wonder how this would do against Aston Martin's actual F1 car lmao
Nvm this thing did around 1:53 and Hulkenberg did 1:38. If we're being generous and say the Valkyrie driver wasn't pushing as hard, this is still at the very least a 10 second gap. Gives insight into how monstrously fast F1 is.
@@koalawithchaingun53 If it is 10 seconds slower then it's as fast as a Toyota GR10 LMH car. This is basically an LMH car without regulation. That would speak very poorly of the job that Aston, Multimatic and RBAT did, if a regulation free LMH car can only compete with a regulation LMH car. Perhaps that's why they pulled the plug in the 1st place. Looking at their actual F1 struggles wouldn't surprise me.
when they first started building the valkyrie they said it was as fast as a midfield 2016 f1 car. im not sure how true that claim is
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks keep in mind that it was meant ro race in lemans hypercar but due to a rule change they couldn't ao its not unrestricted
@@c1x5w89 I don't think that changes anything, the rule changes pretty much changed the class to be slower, this was something that Aston was partly in favour of. The LMH racing today is slower than the version that was originally proposed. The fact that the car being a derestricted version of that chassis is slower than a homologation LMH car doesn't bode well for the proposed project.
I hope Stroll pumps some money and get this car to Le Mans, I get why he is focusing on F1 for branding, but being mid/back marker team in F1 compared to a potential front possible winning team in Endurance seems like a much better prospect to me. But I'm not a multi billionaire business man soo....
He actually thinking about. He already said in an interview a month ago. Hopefully the program resume (as they said it only got paused)
@@Ikrom04 He "said it" in such ambigious words that it didn't really mean anything.
This is the literal quote:
"I think we should be racing - as we are with GT3 and GT4 - in whatever category aligns with the message we are trying to deliver with Aston Martin."
yet was instantly reported as "VALKYRIE TO LE MANS".
@@deggis4 @Ahmad Ikrom Izzuddin Jambak yeah..and you know? I think was lying a little bit because they're have been reports of AMF1 wanting to make their own engine in 4 years depending on the new power unit regs. If that's the case, no money for WEC and also remember that their other hypercar, the vahalla, had aston martin's own new v6 engine until they THREW THAT AWAY.....AFTER YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT ....for a mercedes hybrid v8 engine. Money well spent...I guess.
@@deggis4 Because that's kinda what it seems like. They have Prodrive on standby. The car is CLEARLY fast enough to blow a BoPed Hypercar to pieces already. If they don't do it, then it's a missed opportunity. Simple as.
Considering Ferrari is a household name in Motorsport and Aston used to be somewhat I was shocked when they didn’t enter cars in the LMH for the opening year of the hypercar class. AMR has the perfect baseline, Ferrari iirc is going to field a car and I’m hoping Mercedes or McLaren bring in a car. I want to see a more competitive field,
So for a second I thought this thing was dead. Guess not.
Aston Martin HAS this thing ready.....and Hypercar is right there. That class....will never be very interesting but it'd be useful for this thing to turn up and bump the grid numbers. Plus, it's clearly a crowd-pleaser.
Do you still go by that statement now?
great graphics of Gran turismo 7 wow!
Is FM8 😎... 🤷🏽♂️
@@ElNizzz good joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wonder what's the real speed if they were going all out
The car clearly has a lot of downforce since it's able to brake so late into the corners (maybe its also cause of ABS/stability control?)
Definitely not all out
Probably 80%
Remember it's not in production yet so the safety features aren't final
Even the Aston Martin f1 drivers said they were scared after driving the Valkyrie AMR Pro, both in a good way and bad way
@@william_SMMA if it's at 80% here, in 100% it could do the same time as the F1 cars
@@gustavo_paganelli F1 cars are like 10-20s faster than LMP1 cars around a race track as short as Spa Francorchamps
The Valkyrie AMR PRO is definitely not faster than the fastest LMP1 cars like the Porsche 919 and Toyota GR LMP car
Aston Martin aren't as good at making cars as people think, look at their F1 car for example
They are very good at building hype but in the end ... Nothing
@@william_SMMA I just did some quick math with the laptime from the video, and if it was at 80% speed, it could do 1.30-1.40 at 100%, but I also don't think it's that fast
@@gustavo_paganelli you seem to be taking my "80%" far too seriously
They are obviously not pushing it to the max but at most they'll shave off 5 seconds off their lap
It's not faster than the fastest LMP1 cars and it's definitely nowhere near the F1 times of 1 min 34s around the Bahrain track
Oh, how F1 used to sound. Such memories.
I wanna see this car, the pagani Huarya r, and Mercedes’ amg one go against each other on track
is that a radio antenna in front of the windshield? whatever it is, is it placed there as a visual reference for the driver?
Radio and telemetry
remember folks...ADRIAN NEWEY DESIGNED CAR.
Why did he leave the project?
@@william_SMMA A) to focus on the Red Bull F1 project
B)because Aston Martin and Red Bull ended their partnership
@@rotkiW9014 oh okay
Thanks
Thank you for this video
Is this a full AM project now?
Would be great to see it compete against Toyota GR010 at Le mans, but this car is probably not ready for endurance yet.
This Car Is A track day animal
I want that car so much
this is a safety car we wanted
Shame their F1 car isn't this fast 😬
The 2022 Aston F1 car is 21 Seconds faster on Bahrain Track
The car porpoises. The original project had active aero and suspension to counter this. I wonder if it still does, given that rumour says that RBAT abandoned the project to Aston last year.
Pretty sure that's bumps. If it was porpoising it would get faster and more frequent with the speed as the car continued down the straight.
It's just bumps in the track
It is bumps but also might be proposing to some extent given it’s also a ground-effect car. Original AMR Pro project was meant to be more akin to a closed-wheel F1 car with a Valkyrie engine revving up to 12 or 13k
@@maz4304 could be I just think it's unlikely, where'd you get that rpm limit from though?
@@robertgudd7196 there’s an old video that was posted by Mobil1 of an interview with Adrian talking about the Valkyrie, towards the end he briefly discusses the AMR Pro and says that (about raised rev limit)
Instead of wasting their money on their shitty f1 team, bring this beast to the WEC already!!
Does Adrian Newey still involve in the development of this car?
Nope, well supposedly not. Last word indicates that Aston and RBR weren't on good terms, Newey dropped it to focus on F1 was the last word. Would sound odd to me given Newey's previous obsession with sportscars but that's what was reported. Anyway, RBAT completed their contractual obligation to build the car and then supposedly also dumped the project to Aston. That's what I last read anyway.
Amazing 👏
I wonder what’s the time a compared to a F1?
You have a couple of tail lights out, good sir.
Spectacular
Time lap?
What i would give to see this thing at lemans
Adrian Newey designed that, it should be racing..
It still hurts
Wow.
Minh sei tu?
I can’t telll What does car fall into the LMP1 Category because I would love to see the car added in Gran Turismo 7
155 on the lap/
He’s not pushing
i think its 1.53, from 2:05 to 3:58
@@mikemoggerson6651 No he is.
GUESS WHAT THIS CAR IS A LEMANS PROTOTYPE NOW
holy shit that thing porpoises like crazy
it's 😍
If this thing ain't go to Le Mans = Pointless Pointless Pointless
LE MANS! Súbito!
A bit disappointed that it has just a conventional suspension. Think that the active one was too much work for Aston's guys.
The road car has active suspension
V12 boy
Why does this look so real.
Because it is
@@DWillis7 Well damn, I look forward to finding out how fast it is.
@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Well, you can time the lap looking at when it crosses the start/finish line - and it's 1:54. Which is not very fast. But, this being just a presentation, the lap probably - hopefully - wasn't representative of the car's ultimate pace.
For comparison, the F1 pole was 1:30, LMP1 is at 1:39, LMP2 at 1:43, and F3 and LMH at 1:46. It would only beat GTE and GT3 cars which are at 1:55 and 2:00 respectively.
@@test987665 I see, well it's using a LMH chassis with some mods and they did say they could reach LMP1 pace, I suspect we won't see too much more than that. They were saying the roadcar had similar pace to LMP2.
@@test987665 that time isn’t accurate because there are bit where the footage overlaps- at least a few seconds at a couple corners
This should be a le mans car
Bahrain is such a horrible circuit.
Sounds like an F2 car on steroids
F1 is done no more bernie to save them aston martin 2025 le mans
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So this is where all the developing cost money goes instead making this season car perform good ? 🤡💀💀💀💀🤡🤡
Development for the amr pro would be 5 million max. Nothing close to F1