@@porschet5898a torque converter tranny with more then 5 gears shouldn’t of been too much to ask. Understandably at that point dcts weren’t really all that common still, but more gears for shorter gear ratios would’ve helped.
Black Series have always been series attacks! Never under estimate them. Still, the Performante has the looks :-P and is a very capable ride. Good matchup!
Even though the SL 65 BS is no longer in production, it takes something more special than a Lambo's entry car to dispatch this beast. Even todays super cars will have a hard time with this animal and if they should falter, they will be consumed.
No one is talking about that panic shift that Lambo driver made at the start of the roll on, that sealed the deal for the SL. My man, let those RPMs eat!!
neil matthew palapala mercedes can kiss my A** :P haha just kidding they are both good cars but ill go with the bmw and lambo its my opinion i respect yours :D
the format in which they race REALLY helps cars like the merc. That thing has a lot less trouble with wheelspin on those rolling starts. I talked to an owner of a non black series that was having wheelspin on the interstate at 60mph though haha. I love that torque monster. That maybach engine has no buisness being in a sports car haha.
@rishab155 another way to look at power and torque: Torque is how long time you used to accelerate through the 1/4 and power is your trap speed in the end. Torque will accelerate you there and power is where you end up. Clear as mud?
@xSijUx it's not about 0-60's when your racing at rolling starts. Gallardo is a lot heavier ranging at 556hp and the sl65 makes about low to mid 600hp.in the end it comes down to those numbers and weight to power ratio & how well the cars accelerate at top end gears and revs
@FuriousPumpkin Look, I understand that they don't wanna put their cars at risk, but there are Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lamborghini's at specific track days all the time here in California.
WELCOME TO AMG AIRLINES! I DO DRIVE SL 65 AMG! I TELL YOU THAT IT IS AN ATOMIC BOMB! IT IS FAST AS HELL! WHEN YOU ACCELERATE YOU CAN'T EVEN REACT TO WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND! THIS IS MUCH BETTER THAN ORGASM:-)))!!!
@LaenPvP According to lamborghinis website this performante is a convertible (spyder) and weighs nearly 150 kg more than the superleggera. 0-200 km/h says 12,1sec and 10,2sec for the superleggera.
@LaenPvP Just a bit addon info to you there. For acceleration its the torque that matter the most. SL65AMG Black is detuned from factory by quite a bit so it could get traction at low speeds.
@LaenPvP nothing pulls like a turbo up top, especially 2 of them on a v12, plus the extra weight of the benz is actually to its advantage for top speed runs, the more weight equals the more strain on the motor which causes more heat, which in turn creates more boost which then makes the car pull harder, i know it sounds stupid but when a top NHRA drag car using turbos runs to fast they pull weight out of the car, opposed to putting more in because it will only make it faster, google it
A normal SL65 with ecu map different 700hp was recorded at 348km/h in AMS test at Nardo The SLR hits the top speed at redline, so it would need taller tires, or higher axle ratio to do more.
Im pretty sure it's because of the fact that right when the race started the Gallardo shifted and it lost momentum....That gave the SL65 a head start right there.
@LaenPvP The reason the lambo is faster from 0-60 and in the 1/4 is because its AWD. The SL65 has so much torque going to the rears that it can't use all it's power off the line. Once they're up to speed though the insane power from that TT V12 is hard to beat. It's too bad it's so damn heavy.
@shenayajon The Lambo is over 1000 lbs lighter, I don't know if you've ever taken physics in high school but if you do the calculations you will see that those extra 100 horsepower are not as much much of an advantage as you might think.
@rishab155 look at it this way. Torque is how fast you can rev to say 7000rpms and power(hp) is the energy you are producing at that rpm. Torque is much more important for acceleration than hp.
Really ? The Lamborghini has in fact 5.2L and the Benz 6.0L, and it's not only about peak hp but the curve too, or how much hp the engine makes throughout the rev range, and then add the weight and transmission characteristics
@TurboGSR96 oh boy... I can only repeat myself. If you include gear ratios and all the other items the actual performance characteristics of the motor plays a less part. With the other things you are building upon what the motor can provide you. Torque IS what accelerates the car, specially in the initial stage.
Actually both of these cars are roughly $250,000, the aventador would be priced at about what an slr722 is and I think an slr is faster overall if I'm not mistaken.
@CJAEY that would be too dangerous and they probably don't have a surplus of skilled drivers. Remember, these guys own their cars. This kind of racing is the least taxing on the car's internals and it's easy not to crash.
@mkm282 Since when? MB doesn't make one street legal, factory car capable of a 10's. Low 11's is iffy as well. Drag races are definitely not MB's strong point. These types of races from a rolling start however, that's a completely different story and mainly a horsepower race more than driver skill and car attributes.
What did you expect...The SL65 is turbo charged of course it has more power.But anyways i would still buy the Lambo...But on the other Hand im glad i work for Mercedes here in Germany :D
I have a 2016 SL63 Bi Turbo,"Improved" to 750 BHP. Haven't seen anything quicker yet......I can adjust the Boost to 1000 BHP,from the controller in the dash but after I outdragged a Hayabusa, I thought 750 German BHP was enough.
@gdzilaec Don't see how this AMG is tuned because as far as i know it would put the Mclaren SLR to sleep. And i doubt that Lambo would have a chance with an SLR.
i know this wouldn't have made you win but why did you stay in first gear in the begin. of the race? it sounded like you were alread 1,500 rpm away from redlining.. next time if ur that close to ur next gear you might as well just throw it into 2nd so u dont waste time shifting from 1st to second when the race starts ..
Cool ricer flyby after you lost...
The 670HP SL65 AMG BL was the fastest SL Mercie have ever built. The Biturbo 6.0 V12 seem like a heart of the beast !!
Merc killed that lambo
Imagine that Black series with an actual gearbox... 7 gears... dual clutch.. or a 6 manual..
They use the torque converter gearbox because it has so much torque
Na. I love my CLS55 AMG with the 5 speed. You can get it tuned to where it shifts extremely fast. 5 gears is enough.
@@porschet5898a torque converter tranny with more then 5 gears shouldn’t of been too much to ask. Understandably at that point dcts weren’t really all that common still, but more gears for shorter gear ratios would’ve helped.
@@ezpz4659 5 gears are perfects. You get long ass gears that pull hard instead of your car having to shift a hundred times to get rpm up
Does this car ever f**king lose a God damn race!
Not many!!!
schymcgee this car has been in about 26-28 races and has only lost about 5
Anybody got this in recommended in 2020 ?
Btw that SL is a beast
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Black Series have always been series attacks! Never under estimate them. Still, the Performante has the looks :-P and is a very capable ride. Good matchup!
Dat amg torque. Wow. Mercedes actually had to limit the torque in that thing, what a monster
@Lauren Anderson510 yup.. it would tear the chassis right apart
@@jaschana2220Why not a refreshed new one in 2024 or in future which doesnt have a torque limiter and have more power?
Even though the SL 65 BS is no longer in production, it takes something more special than a Lambo's entry car to dispatch this beast. Even todays super cars will have a hard time with this animal and if they should falter, they will be consumed.
The Gallardo 570-4 Performante is not the Lambo entry car...that would be the standard Gallardo
What is the difference between the standard and the 570-4? For that model year. How much power did the standard have for that model year.
The standard Gallardo " only " had 500hp....also i think it was around 100kg heavier
DAMN That merc left that lambo in the DUST
The SL65 is the most beautiful car...in the world.
See the GTBoard.com Mercedes SL65 Black Series racing Playlist.
its a performante. it is born with those vinyls.
@wfangnxd117 he didnt miss a gear he was just at the top of the gear he was in from the rolling start.... should have shifted before the launch.
@KuostA the AMG would have won anyway, but it would have been a more close race
My favorite Mercedes-Benz ever
my too but i can't afford it
@@JohnnyUtah85 only if we had the money for it.
We all have the ability to afford one, but by that time I doubt we would ever find one. Honestly it makes me sad because it my favorite as well.
@@ijonkilledyou6062 Just find an SL600. Under $30,000 and will pull 800 ft lbs of torque with a tune
@@mark4271963 Can you get a body kit to make it look like the 65 black series?
@Smoogominima But when it comes to top speed, weight means nothing.
No one is talking about that panic shift that Lambo driver made at the start of the roll on, that sealed the deal for the SL.
My man, let those RPMs eat!!
That is one sexy Mercedes!
That Merc is probably WAY more fun to drive
Normally I'm not a big Mercedes Fan, but the Black Series looks awesome!
@m5boarddotcom Yes! The green Galardo is the best color.
Ps. My opinion.
SL65 GONE BABY, THE BEST OR NOTHING PEOPLE 😊
@LaenPvP It's very simple. The AMG is more efficient and it puts more HP to the wheels than the Lambo.
Ricer Fly b y at the end.....but what else to do when you get your ass handed to you? I guess his ego couldn't take the blow.
Mercedes > Lamborghini
neil matthew palapala HAHAHAHAH really? xD fuck mercedes when there's a Lamborghini around :) FORZA LAMBORGHINI
neil matthew palapala FORZA BMW AND LAMBORGHINI
neil matthew palapala mercedes can kiss my A** :P haha just kidding they are both good cars but ill go with the bmw and lambo its my opinion i respect yours :D
+neil matthew palapala In your dreams :)
+Cars Uncovered all mercedes 65 amg they are very creazy coz they have twin turbo mate they are top cars
Every victory of ////AMG makes me proud.
The Mercedes at the end when the lambo flys By was like: Meh, pass me, I destroyed you anyways.
@speedcat1995 what are you saying man that merc is onbelieveble
WOOOOW! That Black Series was faaaast! Stock?
@zaiboy1 670SV is in SLR722 category
The torque of the Mercedes is the secret, and it was limited too, probably due to it destroying the gearbox if it wasn't.
It was destroying or blowing up the rear differential. That’s what u get for too much torque
I like these videos. Using these cars for what they're made to do. God bless you wonderful people.
@m5boarddotcom Gustav can you arrange slr vs sl 65 BS?
i would also love to see a tuned ///AMG 65 series 1 with the 800hp 1000ft-tq in a rolling race
the format in which they race REALLY helps cars like the merc. That thing has a lot less trouble with wheelspin on those rolling starts. I talked to an owner of a non black series that was having wheelspin on the interstate at 60mph though haha. I love that torque monster. That maybach engine has no buisness being in a sports car haha.
@m5boarddotcom
Should send Shobin05 to the "Black Series for N00bs" college...
That Black Serie are just epic!
@rishab155 another way to look at power and torque: Torque is how long time you used to accelerate through the 1/4 and power is your trap speed in the end. Torque will accelerate you there and power is where you end up. Clear as mud?
those looks on that lamborghini are so insane .. great paint work !
@valereydyachuk oh yea i remember that episode..but it depends on the driver also
This is the best Day of this week M board lunches a new video and drag times is in the same mood jajajajaja
@LaenPvP No, it's not stock. It's Black Series.
i didnt know tht it would be this fast. :O
@xSijUx it's not about 0-60's when your racing at rolling starts. Gallardo is a lot heavier ranging at 556hp and the sl65 makes about low to mid 600hp.in the end it comes down to those numbers and weight to power ratio & how well the cars accelerate at top end gears and revs
@FuriousPumpkin
Look, I understand that they don't wanna put their cars at risk, but there are Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lamborghini's at specific track days all the time here in California.
WELCOME TO AMG AIRLINES! I DO DRIVE SL 65 AMG! I TELL YOU THAT IT IS AN ATOMIC BOMB! IT IS FAST AS HELL! WHEN YOU ACCELERATE YOU CAN'T EVEN REACT TO WHAT IS GOING ON AROUND! THIS IS MUCH BETTER THAN ORGASM:-)))!!!
omw :O thats was unexpected!
that lambo kicks ass so that means, that is 1 fast ass merc
@LaenPvP According to lamborghinis website this performante is a convertible (spyder) and weighs nearly 150 kg more than the superleggera. 0-200 km/h says 12,1sec and 10,2sec for the superleggera.
@MurciellagoSV Lemon Green?
SL 65 amg vs 599 gto please!
@LaenPvP Weight doesn't affect top speed, only acceleration and if you have 100 more hp on a top speed race the weight doesn't affect.
@m5boarddotcom Because he really doesn't know an AMG Black Series... MAJOR FAIL !!
@LaenPvP Just a bit addon info to you there. For acceleration its the torque that matter the most. SL65AMG Black is detuned from factory by quite a bit so it could get traction at low speeds.
There are two kinds of people: the one who will never reach the shining star on the car sky and the other one who got it and shining
guess two more cylinders worked out for the merc lol
@greenrolaids
I am just saying, with the cars they're driving, drag racing isn't all that. Those cars are built for cornering and balance.
@LaenPvP nothing pulls like a turbo up top, especially 2 of them on a v12, plus the extra weight of the benz is actually to its advantage for top speed runs, the more weight equals the more strain on the motor which causes more heat, which in turn creates more boost which then makes the car pull harder, i know it sounds stupid but when a top NHRA drag car using turbos runs to fast they pull weight out of the car, opposed to putting more in because it will only make it faster, google it
AMG power! Yeah!
how does a 570-4 (3.4 second 0-60) lose to a 3.8 second car?
reality is often disappointing
@jeekilla1 and the SL65 weights about 600kg more than the Gallardo, so you cant just compare the power of 2 cars..
I have to say, that I also love the Videos!! Perfect made!
@COLEYAH Don't forget M275 AMG's numbers... 670 PS and 1,000 Nm.
gustav, how about a nice little race: the new lambo from underground racing you guys just showed in last vid vs 9ff gt2 :)
A normal SL65 with ecu map different 700hp was recorded at 348km/h in AMS test at Nardo
The SLR hits the top speed at redline, so it would need taller tires, or higher axle ratio to do more.
i love this show :D every time i see one of your videos my day feels complete
thx for doing it :D
Im pretty sure it's because of the fact that right when the race started the Gallardo shifted and it lost momentum....That gave the SL65 a head start right there.
@LaenPvP The reason the lambo is faster from 0-60 and in the 1/4 is because its AWD. The SL65 has so much torque going to the rears that it can't use all it's power off the line. Once they're up to speed though the insane power from that TT V12 is hard to beat. It's too bad it's so damn heavy.
the lambo and the sl65 are stock?
@shenayajon The Lambo is over 1000 lbs lighter, I don't know if you've ever taken physics in high school but if you do the calculations you will see that those extra 100 horsepower are not as much much of an advantage as you might think.
@LaenPvP A Stock SL 65 will run 11.8 in the quarter mile. i think you numbers are a bit off.
@orangeorphan Actually, i was thinking this was a Superleggera for some reason. The results make much more sense with it being a spyder.
I Really want to see lamborghini aventador vs this sl65 black series, off a roll... It would be a great race. And zr1 vs both of them too, wow
@EverydayWI no actually, they were only .0001 seconds apart
@TurboGSR96 Dont mix in gearing. Just think of the motor with no gearbox.Think about that.
@COLEYAH I m totally agree with you.Can gustav clear this things up
@rishab155 look at it this way. Torque is how fast you can rev to say 7000rpms and power(hp) is the energy you are producing at that rpm. Torque is much more important for acceleration than hp.
mistake.... but what's the diference between a V8 and a V10 compared to a V12 biturbo??
That benz has class, you see it passing you slowly and you can't catch it
Really ? The Lamborghini has in fact 5.2L and the Benz 6.0L, and it's not only about peak hp but the curve too, or how much hp the engine makes throughout the rev range, and then add the weight and transmission characteristics
every time i hear the video guys' voice on a video.... i know its gonna be a great GTBoard race about about to go down...
@TurboGSR96 oh boy... I can only repeat myself. If you include gear ratios and all the other items the actual performance characteristics of the motor plays a less part. With the other things you are building upon what the motor can provide you. Torque IS what accelerates the car, specially in the initial stage.
Actually both of these cars are roughly $250,000, the aventador would be priced at about what an slr722 is and I think an slr is faster overall if I'm not mistaken.
At what speed does the SL65's spoiler start to rise up?
@StreetKingEvolution weight means allot for top speed
the best or nothing
Thats a good looking car, and powerful,V12 bi turbo it damn well should be, can u guys match it up with the ZR1
@CJAEY that would be too dangerous and they probably don't have a surplus of skilled drivers. Remember, these guys own their cars. This kind of racing is the least taxing on the car's internals and it's easy not to crash.
SL65 AMG vs Aventador LP700-4
Yeah they should do that
@mkm282 Since when? MB doesn't make one street legal, factory car capable of a 10's. Low 11's is iffy as well. Drag races are definitely not MB's strong point. These types of races from a rolling start however, that's a completely different story and mainly a horsepower race more than driver skill and car attributes.
What did you expect...The SL65 is turbo charged of course it has more power.But anyways i would still buy the Lambo...But on the other Hand im glad i work for Mercedes here in Germany :D
I have a 2016 SL63 Bi Turbo,"Improved" to 750 BHP. Haven't seen anything quicker yet......I can adjust the Boost to 1000 BHP,from the controller in the dash but after I outdragged a Hayabusa, I thought 750 German BHP was enough.
if u guys listen carefully at 1:43, is that the HTC booting sound?
because 0-60 is about traction. Roll racing like in this video essentially involves only power to weight ratios.
@gdzilaec Don't see how this AMG is tuned because as far as i know it would put the Mclaren SLR to sleep. And i doubt that Lambo would have a chance with an SLR.
SO what are the mods list for the AMG?
@00StangGT00 This is not fail... The benz also weighs 1000+ lbs more ...
i know this wouldn't have made you win but why did you stay in first gear in the begin. of the race? it sounded like you were alread 1,500 rpm away from redlining.. next time if ur that close to ur next gear you might as well just throw it into 2nd so u dont waste time shifting from 1st to second when the race starts ..
That right there people is what you call "torque" the sl65 amg black series is a torque monster with 738 lb-ft !!