I Just Found the Best Cheap Sleeper Car to Buy
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- Best sleeper car to buy. I Just Found the Best Cheap Sleeper Car to Buy, DIY and car review with Scotty Kilmer. Pontiac Fiero review. The best cheap cars to buy. Should I buy a Pontiac Fiero? What type of car to buy. Car buying guide. Car Advice. DIY car repair with Scotty Kilmer, an auto mechanic for the last 53 years.
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Yessir pontiac baby gotta lovem
Scotty! So I've recently been gifted a 2001 Ford Escape i was wondering if I can get your opinion on this car, should i keep or sell it and buy a Toyota or honda as a daily gas saver. Thanks
A 3.8 V6 swap???? That caught ME by surprise for sure. What a build!!
I remembered that these Fieros were blowing the doors out of MR2s.
GM should have just built the car with the 2.8L V6 and left out the 2.5L I4.
GM never let Pontiac put a decent engine in the Fiero because the Corvette at the time was aneamic and they would never let a Pontiact Sport Car out perform the Corvette.
That was mentioned in All Corvettes are Red, and to be clear that book is NOT a Corvette book, it's a great read if you want to find out just how goofed up huge companies like General Motors can be! They had put one of their "Quad 4" engines into a Fiero for testing and it had a quicker 0-60MPH time than the Corvette of the time, and soon as the powers that be heard this, their answer was "CRUSH IT". Simple edict, nothing else in their lineup could compete with the Corvette when it came to 0-60 and 1/4 mile time, which I guess made sense from a marketing standpoint, but, well, DAMN, the shame of what so easily could've been, if not for that company being the huge tangled mess it was, is and always will be!
Yep. If I recall, corvette put out 165hp V8. 140ho V6 half the cost, its all about perspective when modern public bash 80s horsepower.
@@terrybeavan4264 Chevy was not happy with Buick when the GNX was way faster than a Corvette. The 2.3L Q4 (the 170 hp, 7000 rpm redline version) + 5 speed manual from the Olds Cutlass would have been perfect for the Fiero. I know that version of the Q4 came after the Fiero was dead, but you get what I'm saying.
@@terrybeavan4264 Ironically if you take a look at the 2021 Corvette the first thing you see is......WTF did they just steal some designs off the fiero.
It won’t be long someone will come up with the 2021 Corvette body kit for a fiero.....And I’m just gonna sit there and laugh.
Heard that gm killed quite a few good performance cars for that reason
The odd thing about this car is that everyone person that owned one actually liked it lol
I don't know why you think liking Fiero's is odd. They were very likable cars. I'm guessing that you haven't owned one and you're going by negative things you heard. Or you're familiar with one that was worn out and maybe not right anymore.
Im looking for one right now running dont matter if its a 88 or older
I owned one back in the day. I liked it, it was a cool commuter for a young, single, 20 year old. I don't remember having lots of problems with it.
@@whatitis8314 I sold my ex girlfriend my 1985 GT with 32k on it, full Koni Suspension and centerline 16" wheels and she managed to blow the clutch out in 3 days. It's been sitting at my cabin in Minnesota for 4 years now. I bet she would sell it.
87 SE notchback was my first car. Still have it, and an 87 GT both 5spd. Super fun cars. Can be setup for fairly cheap. Corners like a kart
I own a couple fieros and am currently doing this swap at the moment, fieros are underrated and the stock v6 was perfectly acceptable power even for today, but the 3800 s/c turns this car into something serious. Fantastic video!
You can put an LS4 in a Fiero and surprisingly the V8 combo doesn’t weigh much more than the supercharged V6.
The Fiero GT is one of my guilty pleasures; Most people don’t care much about them but I would LOVE to have one.
Same here! It’s my realistic dream car.
They’re still out there. I bought an 87 GT V6/auto about 3 months ago.
GM had finally worked the bugs out of the Fiero by 1988, and then they discontinued it.
Typical GM move.
Thank Chevy for that.
it had Chevette front suspension.
I know that is what the auto mags said about the car .. Especially the v6 model was praised
Exactly!!!
LOL, I remember being excited about auto reverse on the tape deck.
Yeah saved the hassle of flipping the cassette :)
Wooaaa. You mean they had that back in the day. 🤯 I never had one. I always had to flip it. Lol.
Don't forget the "SKIP AHEAD" feature. Would auto FF to the next "track". I still drive a car with a factory tape deck.
I’d rather reminisce about 8 track players.
We broke my sisters Panasonic playing army.
Me too. We are old my friend.
Had GM kept the Fiero their plan was to put the 3.8 Turbo'd 6 from the Grand National in it. Would have definitely been a screamer.
Rev'd up my engine! Now I have a P0302 code 🤯
Cylinder 2 misfire. Oh no.
Better than a P0020
I love hearing your voice more than my wife’s Scotty
Go get some milk then
I'm gonna tell your wife, Phil
Uhhhhhh...
does your wife talk with her hands too?
hehehehe
I owned 2 of these that were GT's with V-6's...loved them. Cheap on gas and fun.
those are the ones to have unless you totally rework the dm4 and like he says take the iron duke and junk it , put a nice metric v6 in it plus a G6 Getrag 6 speed manual
The 1990 prototype was slated to get the 3.8, further in production. The 1988 had the better suspension. The MR2 was a nightmare to work on and had its own cooling issues. If you find a MR2 with rot, run!
Hey Scotty, did you ever imagine a day when you'd be getting over a thousand views in 3 minutes on your videos? It's incredible, congratulations sir. Always pumping out the good content.
And over 12 thousand in an hour !
Yes i did 😊
3.81 MILLION subs will do that
There is a lot of har work behind this
Respect!!
Yeah, I was kind of shocked Scotty was geeking off of the fiero. NORMALLY, he is a Toyota guy. HE IS correct on if Pontiac had used the hp on the Fiero they would have sold like hot cakes. THE problem was The Corvette people were scared of this car taking away their buyers and they kept interfering with the Fieros development.
I had the 88 model with the 2.8 v6 and 5 speed manual for 13 years. Coolest car I ever owned with a timeless design. It looked more expensive that it was.
Wow same hear
The poor man's Ferrari. In a good way.
same here I had a Formula (2.8 liter/5-speed).
Soon they will be as expensive as they look hahahaha
I have one now and have had it for seven years. I have driven a Fiero as my "driver" since '89.
I was waiting for Scotty to say “Since it’s mechanic Monday, I’m giving away a Pontiac Fiero.”
I bought a 2M4 Fiero with a 5 speed new in 86 for $9K. I put 129K miles on the original clutch. I sold it to my brother and he put another 100K on the car before he sold it. This was the most reliable car I’ve owned. All it needed was gas, oil, breaks and tires. The car was not a garage queen, it a was daily driver in Chicago for 10 years.
Too bad your brother never swapped out the Iron Puke engine out with a Quad 4. MPG and performance would have improved even more.
The Fiero is the most slept on Pontiac gem. You can put any motor you want in it. Great weight distribution,4 wheel disc, and insanely strong chassis.
Scotty forgets to mention the V8 swaps with a NorthStar or LS type. That car was competition for the Vette back in the day. Killed appropriately.
@recidivists; Scotty did mention twice about "///doing whatever You want with it .. " putting in a "V-8". He did not mention any specific V-8 engine.
There are some that but in the NorthStar 4.8 L, and it seems more have put in a LS-4, 5.3 L and of them many with a singe or twin turbocharger(s) [of various sizes]. There are even fewer that have put in a Corvette LT1 with a six speed transmission. Certainly the options with all V-6, V-8 can be Supercharger-blower or turbocharger.
Also the same options may have done wit the Toyota MR2 with TRD and Honda J-,K- Series 4 cylinder, V-6, V-8 engines work well also.
Imagine putting a 5.7 L, COPO, Coyote, Toyota, especially a NASCAR version 955 bHP N/A, LT2 Corvette 6.2 L, Dodge HEMI, Hellcat, Redeye or others !
When considering increasing the engine HP & Torque, the entire drive train, must be considered, which in this design is the trans-axle, axles, through wheel hubs. Also proper upgraded brakes must included. Some suspension upgrades may be needed. The 1987-88 GT had the original intended independent suspension, similar with the Corvette C4.
This platform is one of the best to work with for many applications:
A. "Fun', enjoyable 'Roadaster'
B. Powerful, sporty driving vehicle, experience
C. nearly all types of racing applications: road, track, time trial, drag, including drive & race events.
D. Great potential for a high efficiency vehicle with sporty shape, styling, etc.
This was and has been one of my favorite vehicles, ever designed and produced.
Clearly Toyota copied most of it - first production MR2 1988 - their second version looks more similar to the Fiero GT.
Imagine using a Fiero to have a Stanley Meyer Hydrogen innovation, implementation engine !
Or other combinations of motors, power, etc. !
Scotty also did not quite mention the advantages about the body completely either. The panels are a composite, polymer, which is flexible, durable, light weight, not like fiberglass or carbon-fiber. The flexible body panels allow for some amount of forces and return to their shape and are easily replaceable. This same exact material, idea was used in the Saturn car line. Their assembly, factory was a brand new, robotic plant in Tennessee, built in cooperation with Toyota [part owner]. Perhaps You remember if You are old enough ?
All The Best
Sincerely
Whatever you do, look for the 1988 model year car first, best suspension setup from the factory.
Scotty really gotta tell everyone to buy a fiero while I'm looking for a fiero 😭
I have a grey one for sale im in NC
I have a black one in cali if your still looking
@@nick12_29 where you at and how much? 👀
@@claudetteg7815 I have her in Garden Grove CA. It's a black 4 speed 6cyl gt. Looking for maybe 2.5
@@nick12_29 what year?
I own an 84 SE with a 4:10 4 speed trans. It's got 235,000 miles on it. I've had for 23 years and enjoy driving it.
looking at buying one of those at the moment, ever since I saw a fiero i was hooked, its a beautiful car.
I have had a Fiero for my driver since I bought my first '86 in '89. Currently drive an 88 with V6 5 speed.
My uncle was my mechanic for a decade until he passed. The only time I heard him cuss was when I would bring my 84 Fiero over for him to work on.
Too bad, I used to love working on my Fiero (4 cylinder) when I was in college. You could sit in the engine bay while wrenching on it 😉
The first 3 years were not good, the last year 88 was a great car.
@@brentboswell1294 I wish the v6 had that kinda room.
@@brentboswell1294 when Fiero came out, mechanic were not too happy to work on Fiero, bit crowded under the lid but by todays standard, Fiero is now a breeze almost. Todays car are really dense under the hood, no place to work on.
@@brentboswell1294 NOT IN THE ENGINE BAY LOL MAYBE THE REAR TRUNK
Had an 88 Fiero (stock 4cyl body) with a supercharged V6 already converted. Total fun sleeper
my dream car for the last 30 years. the fastback in black
@@timan206 especially when it's wet ...
Like how Scotty is inside the car with the owner smacking his dash an saying the thing squeaks and rattles like an old mattress 😂
We fiero owners take the squeaks and rattles as a badge of honor.
The Fiero was a neat little car. Think Miata or Veloster. It was meant to be affordable fun, not a race car. Not a muscle car. Not an expensive exotic. I've never driven one, but I'd imagine with the 2.8L V6 it probably had enough power to be fun for the time. With that supercharged 3.8L it's probably a little monster. Still a great looking car. The exterior design has aged really well.
I love my 88 GT to this day. I bought it new in late 1987. I only have 56k miles on it. It’s been garaged for about 30 out of the 33 years that I’ve had it.
Tell that guy to buy some of Keith Goodyear's replacement tail light lenses.
Great cars, I owned a new 84 4 banger, stick shift terrible cable linkage, but great car. Then I purchased an 86 with the V6 and automatic excellent. Should have never sold that one. Most leg room of a small car I have ever seen.
I love my fiero it's not the fastest thing but I'm not gonna get rid of it anytime soon also I'm only 17 and bought it for 1500
This video reminds me Of the mid 90s when I was working at a garden center. We carried sod and put in people's vehicles. Sometimes they would come up in caddys and have us put it in their trunk. But the most bizarre car loading the car owner had a fiero and told me to put it on the back of the car over the vents. I said are you serious? He said yes and went ahead a loaded his car that way. Also told my manager how the car owner had me load his car in case he came back and try'ed to say I said to do it that way.
I always loved these cars. Being 6'4", I appreciate the legroom available. Great video, I'm surprised Scotty didn't completely bash the car.
Many don't realize how much leg room these actually have.
At 6'4" myownself, I was pleasantly surprised to find how well I fit in the thing. And the center tunnel is nice and high providing probably the best armrest I've had in a car. I have an '88 Formula and love it.
I had a 2M4 Fiero and it was a fun car,have a '95 Mustang gt convert. now. Its even more fun !
I Just Found the Best Cheap Sleeper Car to Buy. It's called my 94' Celica ST. I sleep better at night knowing that i am banking my money and do not have a STUPID Car payment....lol
I wish my family’s fiero had the iron duke instead of the 2.8 v6 that always turned its own insides into a blender. It might still be around today. I also had an s-10 with the 2.8 that just let go of its own pushrods. Terrible engine, the gm 2.8.
The 3800 on the other hand, excellent choice for re-powering a fiero and keeping it a gm throughout.
I had a very early production ‘84 Fiero which I had special-ordered in September ‘83, two days after the public debut. It was fun until the transmission went out at 60K miles. I wish I still had it.
Typical GM quality 🙄
I got my 86 fiero with 270k miles for $1400 with some idling issues. Ended up being a $100 vacuum leak repair and it runs good!
Does anyone remember at all. The GM built rear engine car: the Corvair. I got one from my Grandfather. A 1968 Monza version. He said, with a little tuning and edits on the air filter. It used to outdo the Porche 911 in his day. I might change the carbs and update the exhaust, plus, put a front spoiler. And to counter the rear, more weight in the front.
I had two of them. Both of them almost killed me. When those early sealed bearings went out you lost the brakes.
But those motors made great sand rails.
A guy that lived across the street from me had 4 of those, 2 were fully restored with really nice paint jobs and everything.
Unsafe at any speed !😀
My Dad had one. Started leaking oil the first year. Got married the next year. Had Twins 9 months later. Traded it in and got a used 57 Chevy nomad wagon till 66, then bought Buick’s till the 80s. Then bought Honda’s from then on. He’s 83 now, and drives a 2008 Crv Honda and loves it.
Sure it beat a 911. Lmao
Scott’s tried and true saying, “ Having a lot of fun for a little bit of money”
Does he really have the camera tripod shadow directly on him? 😂🤦
@ttime685 Scotty had some help with this video.
Scotty is holding the camera and someone started the car.
Then you see the shadow of person trying to move out of the video frame after they shut down the Fiero.
He has company in the car! Someone is driving him as he films. 😁
That was just a shadow I was far more bothered by the in car filming. That inertia reel seatbelt (sorry don't know the US English for that) bags and bags of slack on the belt. You would be wanting a much tighter belt in case of an accident!
@@COIcultist Actually 'inertia reel' is US English; I've seen it before in the US. And yes, Scotty had WAY too much slack in the belt.
Scotty ...im listening to you of how always you can find the best auto & of how you can justified your ideas of what is best given the difficulties that always are present I think you are a hell of a mechanic ...la verdad.TE FELISITO.A CASTELLANO .
Fiero, the mid engine GM car that pre dates the c8 Vette.
Yeah the Fiero is the C8's daddy.
The fire issue during the 1984 model year was caused by heat shrouding. It was recalled and then removed.
At 1:31 Scotty Oil would get on the Exhaust start a fire then "WOOF" shows a Dog
At 10:44 Scotty There is a lot of Fiero's in the Junk. Yard shows Chevy Dealer
Nailed it. It's a cheap car that no one wants but with a trip ir two to the junk yard you can build it however you want. I have a Cadillac V8 and a G6 Six speed in mine.
Nice
GMs biggest mistake was getting rid of the 3800 Series 2
Too reliable. Dealers not making enough in repairs and complained loudly to GM.
^
3400 was a good motor too once you get past the gasket failure / DexcoolGate
@@jcwoods2311 Really? That's sad that GM would rather rip off customers then build great reliability and beat the Japanese.
My brother worked as a test driver at the GM proving grounds in Milford Michigan! He told us Pontiac had developed Fiero with a twin Turbo and were blowing the Doors off the Chevy Corvette and Buick Grand National on the test Track. Buick and Chevy put a stop to this car due to the price point would have cut into sales of there cars! The Corvette has always been GM flagship sports car. Just think if they had produced this car! Chevy just made the new Corvette like this Fiero 35 plus years later! WOW GM is still in business after making bad decisions for 50 plus years!!!
The 3800 was a great GM engine. It was the powerplant for the Buick Grand National and the GNX, which were beasts back in the day.
I bought a 1985 V6 Fiero SE new in 1985 and I still have it. Very few problems with it in 35 years.
'88 was the best year in the GT trim. GM killed it after that year. Yet another example of a good idea fumbled by GM.
Yup. Gm is discontinuing the Camaro as well. So...nothing has change since '88.
@@timothycc711 I wonder how many birds they would sell if they brought pontiac back
GM did the same thing with the Olds Cutlass coupe. The 2.3L Quad4. 170hp. 7000 rpm redline. 5 speed manual. That was 1993, a couple years before the hi revving 4 banger craze really got traction. The Q4 blew head gaskets all the time, GM killed that engine/trans combo and just went back to the boring 3.1/4T40 combo.
It was sad because by '88 they worked out the kinks, then dropped it. Scotty was right. A better engine and it would have been a seller. However, it may have cannibalized the F-body (Camaro/Firebird) and Corvette sales.
That must be the best condition example on earth since I haven't seen one in 15 years on the 2nd largest commuter region....
better be for $18,000 that's more then it cost new 😂😂😂
Disappointed he didn’t finish the job by converting it to a 5 or 6 speed stick. All that work replacing the engine with that great supercharged 3800 and he left it an automatic?
Definitely “blowing doors off” with that transmission. 🙄
@@Blackferret66 The Getrag 282 5 speed bolts right up to the L67 S/C 3800. The 3800 uses the same bell housing pattern as the 2.8-3.1 GM V6s which was the original V6 in this Fiero and it was available with that Getrag 282.
Just need a custom flywheel but companies do make those now. Plenty of guys have done 5 speed swaps with the 3800
They used the automatic with the 3800 on the drag strips because the are faster than standard in the 1/4 mile.
@@hondaman6918 Yes generally for strictly racing applications you go with an automatic but for everyday driving always go with a stick.
No kidding. Not only is the 4T65 not nearly as fun, they break...a lot.
i had one for awhile..had a ton of fun in it...and I confess i drove that 4 cylinder hard but it held up. No flames..LOL
The 3800 is just a dream engine for mine. I'll live with the 2.8 V6 another 20 years😎
I haven't driven one with the 3800, but I'm honestly not sure it needs it. Not every car has to be a tire shredder, and the 2.8 has a great low-end grunt personality that I enjoy. I can't help but think that 310 RWHP would just upset the balance.. that much extra power and a little extra weight in the back and I can't help but think you'll just end up with snap oversteer. I think it'd be interesting to see something like the Fiesta ST drivetrain swapped in. This would shave off maybe 100lbs in the rear, and you'd have right around 200hp/tq. That could be fun! I don't think I'd want to mess with all that turbo shenanigans, tho. I'm good with my factory 2.8 V6 ;).
Does anyone else expect Scotty to start singing a metal version of Hey Ya! in the count in for the intro???? Heeeeeeyaaa
I would love to see that
@WllfromBrazil de Carvalho
LMAOOOOOO!!!!
Nü-Metal FTW!!!!!
Same car as mine 88 gt supercharged series 2. Very fun.
Less than 1% of fieros had a fire it was an issue in 84 model year.
There ya have it. Scotty just praised gm for their 3800 v6
My sister had a white one with black racing stripes, and sat really low! We loved it!!
As a Fiero enthusiast I would appreciate it if he wouldn't lean on every single part of the Fiero especially the wing eeesh
I love it its like the Mazda rx7 only more lovely with the engine in the rear or middle.
Scotty slapping this man's car right in front of him calling it homieness 😂
I bet that is a quick car!I've had a couple 3.8's , one in a Bonneville with the Eaton SC . It was quick for its day.
I had an 88 formula edition. I loved that car and could out corner anyone.
Heck yeah, the suspension was copied rumor be told from Lotus
Love my 88 Formula. Put 4,000 miles on it this year.
I had mine for 7 years as a daily driver. Finally needed to get a car with a back seat after putting 90,000 miles on it, 2 round trips from Cleveland to Miami and one round trip to Amarillo from Cleveland.
just bought one with 74k miles. Drove it from Colorado to Texas. Now has 75k miles. I love it. Automatic, I don't even care.
Currently have an '88 Formula. Love it. Better than the Miata in my opinion, unless you really want a convertible of course. Truth be told, I'm not convinced this thing needs that 310hp of 3800SC goodness. I think it'd probably be optimal at somewhere around 210hp. Would love to do the Twin Dual Cam swap.
Engine failures and fires were mainly due to GM knocking 1 inch off the oil pan on the Iron Duke engine. As you said, lack of maintenance caused low oil levels in some people's Fieros.
It looks badass! I can only imagine if GM would of done things like this back on the days!
I had a 85 Fiero with V6 but had to let it go ,However just finished my 84 Fiero Restoration fun to drive Have to watch oil level weekly with these GM had to change dipsticks to reflect true level Also Wrap the exhaust with temperature tape/wrap to deflect heat away
If you wanted to save $ on Fiero parts you ordered the same part for a Chevette cuz basically that is what it was mechanically.
I thought it was the Citation, at least for suspension, and until '88 when it got its own.
@@Blackferret66 Yes, citation not chevette
My father had an 87 fiero with the 4 cyl and 5 speed trans. Threw some sticky tires on it and it was a pretty good little autocross car, even with the 4 cyl engine.
Sounds like my stomach after Taco Bell.
😂😂😂
LMAOOOOOOO...
I don't know what you're eating at Taco Bell but there are some things on that menu that will not cause any kind of stomach discomfort or bowel problems.
My wife had gotten one of the first years made, a '94 i believe. Had the 4 cyl engine. POS. We had all kinds of probs with it. She drove my Subaru Justy to work, cause its 3 cyl engine was more reliable. I drove the Fiero, all kinds of issues. Had it worked on several times, to no avail. Eventually sold it to the father in law, then he sold it to an interested party. Glad to see it go away, not just go.
Well considering that the first model year for Fiero was 1984, I suspect that the rest of your story is as accurate as your “94 Fiero” !
What I have always dreamed of doing for mine! Feels good having Scotty's approval!
Love the 3.8... even a N/A would run great. I had a 91 2 door regal that would embarrass a lot of V8's
Is it me or Scotty was saying crap on the cars inside while the owner was driving it
Thanks Scotty K. We really appreciate the knowledge you share with us all. Thank you!
Damn Scotty, where did ya get a photo of me....saying I am an "average American!"
Catching on fire was great in a way. As the result of that little defect, my car was recalled. They put a new engine in. I just had to pay $1. So the car was getting old, but the recall fixed that. My car, up here in Canada, lasted 18 1/2 years. What killed it, was a van sliding on black ice which then plowed into my Fiero which turned it into a write off.
Those first Fieros back in 1984 were junk. I wouldn't offer someone $1 for one. But in 1987 GM had worked the bugs out and there were decent cars then. That 2.8 V-6 and the manual transmission could last a long time. Those 1987-88 Fieros are really underrated.
Still have my White 86 GT slowly restoring it and getting it ready for its SC 3800 engine swap.
Just got a 2016 Toyota Avalon Limited 42,355 miles on it. I’m winning
Great car! I was thinking about buying a 2016-2018 Avalon myself. How much did it cost?
@@dyingculture1 got it for 18k. Not bad in my opinion. Dealership wanted to get rid of it since a lot folks don’t get the Avalon and elect to get the ES instead
@@trevorc8198 wow, that sounds like a great price! KBB says it would go for about 20-22k. Did you pay cash or payments?
Lucky guy. A car that could last until the next ice age.
@@theheavenlyfire I payed cash.
I've owned a few and loved them. Still one of my favorite cars. Put in a vortec 4.3 👍
Pontiac used to make affordable sporty looking cars with plenty of room for owner upgrades from the GM parts bin... then they dropped the whole lineup... What were they thinking?! 🤔😲
Federal bailout forced their hand ✋ Government Motors. I loved Pontiac too.
I love my fiero my uncle bought his brand new in 1988 I bought it from him 8 years ago redid it myn looks just like this one but myn has the stock 2.8 in it
Loved these fieros as a teen in the 80s. Went to the local Pontiac dealer and would check them out and sit in them. New car smell, still had the plastic wrap on the seats and steering wheel. Now my kid drives one.
I worked with a guy that put a corvette engine in a Fiero. Man was that thing LOUD
The Pontiac Fiero was GM's answer to those 70's style Triumph TR7 & the Nissan Pulsar & the Toyota MR2
I loved the AW11 and SW20 at first but I'm 100% in love with my 88 fiero with 3800sc NiC cammed!
@@raz_nick4048 that is definitely a nice ride
My cousin Kelly had a Pulsar. Great steering feel. Someone backed into the front left bumper and left a dent we couldn't fix (no heat gun). But the Volvo rear end crumpled.
The bad thing about the 3800 SC swap is it's only in automatic. If I had another Fiero GT, I would look into another swap that would be more fun to drive.
" The average american don´t do much maintenance" LOL.
Funny how we occasionally blame poor design rather than neglect
Insurance killed this car. I bought a new 1988 Trans Am GTA. The dealership wouldn't take my deposit until the insurance company wrote a policy for me. They didn't. Ask the agent about a Fiero GT. They said don't even ask.
Bought a Quad4 Grand Am SE coupe. Still have it. I need to send Scotty a video I took of the rear stabilizer bar on it. All the attachment points were on the back axle.
Correct me if I’m wrong. Best thing to do is buy an older car/truck and spend the money restoring it instead of spending more on a new car/truck.
Well guess what. You're wrong! Throwing money on upgrades that will never increase the value of an old car is thr height of stupidity. Don't do it.
@Joey Loi something is wrong with you. You’re not to bright.
@@andreamerino9146 Thanks for that input. I am continually learning and that one helped me so much.
@@SolidGold44 if my reply helped you so much. Then my original post is valid.
@@andreamerino9146 Yeah the only issue with your statement is that I wasn't specific on which vehicle I would be restoring. Some older vehicles are worth restoring and does increase the value.
they caught on fire cause the Valve covers leaked oil on the cat, GM later sold a replacement Valve cover to fix the problem, they were also recalled for the rear calipers freezing up, giving you a nice LOW pedal
If I could only find an Omni GLHS! Talk about a sleeper!
Yes, however most were Omni POS...
I liked my OmniHorizon; could easily get out of it's own way with a 2.2L 4 cyl, great mileage, no mechanical issues until the steering knuckles failed 12 months apart due to a wear problem; 2nd time wiped out the transmission.
Goes Like Hell Somemore.
The ones that would torque steer you off the road into a ditch.
Hallelujah! Finally Scotty kilmer praising a car which is NOT a Toyota.
Loved those fieros! Wouldn’t mind getting one to compliment my GTA! It’s like a baby trans am
I own a 2nd Gen MR2 and think the last generation Fiero is pretty cool (except for that interior lol)
I had an 85 fiero and my son and I drove it from ne Ohio to arizona and it was a great road car and comfortable too. The pontiac dealer in Prescott had never worked on one and I had to show them how to get to the engine.
I bought a 1985 ferro GT it was a 6 cylinder whale tail with a leather bra , it was a great car, LOT of fond memories.
Gotta love those pop up head lights!!
That 3800 motor is fast. I had no money when I was a kid, and a friend of a friend sold me a 94 Cavalier convertible for $2,000. It had 100,000 miles on it and that 3800 motor. That car would beat anything. In the mid 2000's everyone wanted the Fast and Furious rice burner cars. My Cavalier was a stock, girly looking thing and I would smoke everyone's tuner Honda's with fart tubes.
Another reason they caught fire was seal between the read deck lid and rear window would collect leave and debris then when opened would fall on exhaust,catch fire!
The 3.8 v6 alone would be more than adequate for a fiero. The supercharger just makes it even more powerful.