Don't worry Geoff, more and more people are waking up to the scam because of energy prices. It's starting to cost everyone money now, that's how you get people's attention
When they're cutting down millions of trees to build wind farms, when you have Gates, Gore, Kerry etc living in beachfront mansions and flying around in private jets, it's pretty obvious reducing CO2 emissions is not the real goal. The real goal is taking away your personal freedom. It's all about reducing your standard of living.
Hold on. This isn't taking into account real world miles per kWh - which plummet in cold weather while ice become more efficient thanks to re-using waste heat. Or how about their extra weight which hammers roads more? Or what about their much lower payloads which mean if you want a car to do the same job you need an even larger one with an even more overweight battery? It also doesn't take into account that grid electricity usually (and moreso when demand is high) comes from a grid which uses - at best - 60% efficient power stations. With a 95% efficient electric motor that sounds great. What about getting that power from the power station to the road? Power station to transformer, transmission box, lines, local box, transformer, house meter, fuse box, charger, battery, controller, motor - at every point it loses a certain percentage of its power - between 2% and 5% usually - and most of the time the battery will need cooling or heating and if left in the cold or heat that need continues. In a decent ice the motor runs at around 40% efficiency and by the time it gets to the wheels thats usually between 25% and 35% depending on load and use - almost exactly the same as the overall efficiency of the ev. But with a much lighter car to move, a heap less emissions to make, no concerns about a massive battery that can't really be recycled efficiently, potential for well north of 200k miles if looked after and a fairly unlimited timespan in which to cover that. It can also tow, carry a reasonable amount of people and cargo and doesn't need billions of quid of infrastructure creating environmental destruction everywhere it goes thanks to overly limited range. Hybrids make sense because they allow an ice to operate near its maximum efficiency more often. Plug-ins make sense if you have solar because they can usually take on enough to make full use of that while keeping the battery much more healthy for longer than an ev and not needing anywhere near the capacity in the first place. Battery ev's only make sense if you use them to pretty much the edge of their range every time over lots of miles and even then only if used on a lot of renewables - even then thats before we go down the rabbit hole of how clean renewables really are when you include the maintenance, lifespan and fragility of most. Of course the more ev's the more demand on the grid and the less percentage of that power can come from renewables so its a catch 22 that sooner or later with mass uptake the ev will end up more dirty than an ice. I think its fairly obvious to any sane person that ev's are certainly not the planet saving second coming they are made out to be. Want to watch emissions drop through the floor? Stop people commuting into large cities for jobs which do not require their physical presense - especially from some of the larger distances which can be over 100 miles each way. People who travel into London (for example) to sit in an office infront of a computer do not need to be there in the first place and certainly don't need to travel 25, 50, 75 miles each way in rush hour to do it. If you have a look at the figures its astonishing how many people commute and how far from - all to sit on the internet in exactly the same way as they would in their living room. Those offices could be used to aleviate the housing crisis and the time spent in traffic polluting the planet could be spent making a cuppa before work. The rush hour traffic would be cut in half meaning less emissions from the people travelling as they don't have to sit in a line of traffic, overall average mileages would plummet - meaning far less wear and tear on cars, roads and far less fuel burn and people would get an extra hour or two at each end of the day where they aren't wasting it. I understand that to some the office is a social club which is simply an extension of their school days but I feel like they need to grow up at some point - especially as these are usually the people with company cars who bleat on about how great their ev is. Why is work from home when able not the norm and why should people who use their cars sensibly and when required be forced to pay a small fortune for vehicles we don't want to replace vehicles we already have which over our low mileage will be better for the planet in the first place? I have no problem with high mile users but I have a massive problem with wasteful users. No one is going to be bothered if you like to pop to the seaside now and then but why waste hundreds of miles per week going to a job which really doesn't need you there?
2000 Chevy pickup truck with 282k miles. Nothing to benefit by getting rid of it since it still runs and drives great. BTW how can I haul the things I need in a little EV.
Mate it's not about control, it's about greed. The car manufactures see that gas powered cars are on the way out and this heavy lean into electric cars is them trying to hold on to their profits like the good little capitalists they are. This is despite the fact that no infrastructure network on the planet could even handle a full switch to electric. The real solution has been around for a long time now and it's trains, trams and metro's. They are way more energy efficient than an electric car and can transport way more people in one go.
Wood chips are burnt at Drax power station, and yes they are produced in the USA and shipped over here to be burnt at Drax. Fun fact Drax does not have to count any emissions from its own power generation process as part of its annual emissions report etc.
And from Canada and they are chopping down forests then processing the wood through a factory to make pellets. Bio mass requires approximately four times the amount by weight of coal to produce the same amount of steam to power the generators. Coal power stations have their chimneys go through a scrubber Wood stations do not it’s all a scam
Most Wind Farms and Solar Farms in the UK are backed up by diesel generators - the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine enough 85% of the time so the wind and solar farms are backed up by diesel generators - because these diesel generators are backing up the solar and wind farms they are counted as GREEN RENEWABLE ENERGY - so 85% of so the called GREEN RENEWABLE ENERGY is actually diesel generated.
You forgot to mention that Drax receives over a BILLION pounds a year in taxpayers money vis subsidies for being so “green”. Oh yes they do. As the saying goes, you couldn’t make this sh*t up.
@@Michael-hm8cs Yep, pollution from production of wind farms is horrific. Production of fiberglass filament, metal smelting, constant maintenance and the damage to environment There is also the killing thousands of birds a year being hit by massive spinning blades
Good points - apart from the birds. Study in a migration hotspot near Gibraltar found the only birds slow and dumb enough to get killed were Griffon Vultures - and hardly any of them.
At Primary school in the 1960's we were taught that the motorways would be a good thing because the cars trucks etc making long / fast journeys would basically be in tree lined "valleys" that would absorb the carbon to make our towns safe.. As a "Dinosaur" now I think we need to stand and be counted as this all tax and fk all to do with climate etc and I'm now more bothered about the BS my grandchildren will have to endure.
It would be great if trees had actually been planted along motorways instead of being cut down. A 100ft 'safe zone' would be an improvement from what I remember of traveling M4 pretty regular (in case high winds blew tree over) It would be pretty simple to have access points at all the 'Police observation' area's and fast growing pine or slow growing deciduous planted to absorb carbon emissions with very little impact on the farm land. plus, there are already subsidies for tree planting (that way you wouldn't need new access roads across farmland)
I like the point made by Geoff. If they were honest the first decision would be to ban short term car leasing. However in today society banning a financial product is perceived as pure blasphemy
The whole conecpt that you should change your car every three years is just bonkers. I'm 44 and have had three vehicles (all pre-owned) in my lifetime (4 if you count the old Nova borrowed from my Mum after I first passed my test!). Doing so saves hundreds of thousands of pounds and reduces overall emissions hugely. I do expect there to be a limit on how often you can replace your car at some point, but the climate will have to be perceived by the public to be getting a lot worse before such a move would be supported at the ballot box, so at least 10-15 years away.
Having the wrong political view is bad for your wealth, just ask Nigel Farage. BTW the best thing for the planet would be to stop felling rain-forest, or better yet, stop breeding people.
Just like if they were honest all these tree huggers would only have one child and be reducing the population pressure. Notice not one of them wants to discuss that sacrifice: better to lecture others.
@@gingermattb I have kept my last two cars until they were 10-11 years old. I plan to do the same with my recently purchased used electric car. As you say, it is so much more cost effective.
I think at school in the 70s we were taught better about the environment than they are today. kids today think it is all new, but we had classes in environmental studies in the early 70s. And they were not political nor did they have this modern agenda. I remember the trees planting. They have to thank or generation for a lot of todays trees 👍
Great video Geoff, it reinforces what I was saying to a startled youngster the other day that I am going to be green by staying driving my Skoda diesel because to generate the CO2 of building an EV I would have to drive my car for more than 22 years by which time I will probably be dead and certainly not driving. Keep banging the gong !
@@SDK2006b In the"real world" I run a body shop, and nobody wants to touch them. I especially don't want any damaged EV's in or around my premises, mainly due to the fire risk.
Nonsense. The Government couldn't afford to lose the £35 billion they rake in from the UK motorist each year. The jobless total would also rise by at least 2 million, possibly more, with 800'000 jobs lost in the UK car making industry alone. Then there would be the jobs lost in the associated sectors, such as car dealerships, oil refineries, garage repair shops, tyre fitting depots, petrol stations, car washes, places like Halfords, thousands of jobs would go in the car insurance industry, Local Authority road maintenance crews etc etc. And you thought it was as simple as doing away with cars.......
@@Brian-om2hh Good post!! The Government does not give a shit to anyone!! We have seen that with Jab and they are a Joke..... and they must go as soon as possible.
Cost for diesel car, £0.13 per mile Cost on EV electric tariff, £0.0168p per mile. Average daily driving is 24 miles. Diesel =£3.12 EV=40p X365 Diesel =£1139 EV=£146
@@crumbschief5628 EV car, $ 60,000. Diesel car, $ 30,000. Bicycle, non electric, $ 500. Replace 1 electric motor on Tesla, $ 12,000. Replace diesel engine found at junkyard, $ 3,000. Replace stolen bicycle, $ 500. Electric home charger and Solar system for EV, $ 25,000. Diesel canister, 5x 20 Liter filled $ 150 for in home refueling. Bicycle polish and chain oil, $ 12. Electric bill for a single household in 2030, $ 500 / month. Diesel $ 5 / gallon. Bicycle still free to operate. AND THE WINNER IS ... ;)
@@crumbschief5628you are assuming that the government will never tax EVs the same as petrol and diesel cars. The government will need to replace that money sooner or later.
@@Mark.D.H. that depends on the car you were going to buy in the first place. Car prices are high now. If you are buying a 3 series BMW it's comparable to a Tesla M3. There's a difference but you way over state it.
Well done Geoff, you found what we in the automotive industry have known for years. I think Geoff needs a Knighthood for expressing how STUPID the human race really is. It ignores the big issues to push it's commercial consumer agenda , easily hoodwinking the gullible, misinformed, unkowledgeable buyers
@@gibroon4418 It's not where it came from -- it's the content -- and they have found part of the poison that exists in the EV dream ... Humans think they are saving the world with EV cars... not a chance ... I have been Hydrogen and EV devt teams for 12 years. Show me something that is carbon neutral... even a kiddies bike isnt carbon neutral. Just dont get caught up in the hype....It's stupid.
@@1sostatic Absolutely agree that nothing is carbon neutral but it is about sustainability. You can absolutely say there is toxicity involved in EV manufacturing but you can never say that an ICE car is less toxic. So if you are saying we shouldn't have either car, then I can agree. That would be the best for sure. What I don't understand is the sheer fear/loathing and dread of EVs. Can't we have an alternative? This channel is all about old cars. There will be old ICE cars on the roads well after I die. I just don't understand the need for such derision towards what is just a car at the end of the day.
@@gibroon4418 It doesnt "fix" the problem either way -- it just "shifts" the problem. ... lets have same discussion in 10 years time. ... when we're back to fossil fuels because they realise too late they (the politically unknowledgable) got it wrong.
@@gibroon4418 It only shifts the problem.. it doesnt "fix it"...you're being fed a lie and a dream. ... a politicians dream... and how much should you believe in them?
EVs are a scam. EVs sole purpose is to drive up the cost of vehicles. Average EV is 62k. Average gas vehicle is 40k. And government is forcing manufacturers to make EVs and not invest in gas vehicles so the prices will continue to rise. EVs are worse for the environment as they require you to destroy the earth to mine for the metals needed in batteries. EVs don't reduce carbon emissions until you drive over 100k miles. If we all drove an EV it would only drop carbon emissions by 0.4% EVs also require a compromise in driving. They can't tow. They do horrible at highway speeds as they lose efficiency. And they're awful in inclement weather like wind or cold. EVs are a scam.....and thats before the repair bill hits because repairs increase cost of ownership way over gas equivalents.
Definitely seems we are being priced off the road and evs are being used as a lever .There is only one issue , which is that of towing . I saw a white tesla last week towing a reasonably sized caravan .
@@richm2835 an EV can tow.... For a very short distance in town. But it drops mileage by 2/3. When you only have 100 miles to tow that doesn't give you much flexibility
@@Richard482 that's not made up at all. The price is the price.... Tax incentives are not rebates. And the 100k number is absolutely accurate. You should look at how your blood batteries are produced with child labor, slave labor, and huge machines, plus the energy used to charge your blood batteries still produce carbon and fossil fuels. You've been lied to. Sorry I'm the one to finally educate you.
I think it is more important now for all of us that are awake,to try and wake those up that are still asleep.We can't just keep watching Geoff,Richard Vobes ,we have to wake more people up as we need to be acting.This whole green agenda is the biggest con of all time and it is THE reason to take away our freedoms.
Where is the source of you environmental carnage coming from? It is the environmental carnage caused by ICE vehicles which has led to the development of EV’s in the first place
LOL All the production of all EV batteries and EV cars and extraction of all the raw materials for their production combined can never even match the environmental damage done by just a few oil tanker disasters. It amazes me how far some people go in defending interests of huge multibillion dollar fossil fuel megacorps that slowly kill you and your children for profit. Not to mention causing the obvious global warming and it's implications. So many Europeans think it's not their problem, because Europe will not be made uninhabitable by climate change. Well, once you have hundreds of millions of migrants knocking at your door it will be your problem too.
Can somebody tell The Electric Viking that we in the UK don't want EVs. According to his latest video, sales in France and Germany are taking off and they get can't enough of them. These people in these countries must be well off to afford an EV. I could ramble on all day about them but I'll leave that to you.
He’s talking garbage. We drove right across Germany and France in April and the number of EVs we saw was less than 5%. Every charging point ( that offers ten spaces and under cover ) that we saw was empty.
@@helmethead72Hello friend, l live in Germany and it has been said that the VW electric car plans in Emden is stopping production due to the lack of sales. They have a huge number of unwanted car's and loads of workers will be laid off. From what l can gather through comments on UT, the German folk are not interested in EV's due to the high cost and low range of distance. I'll stick to my diesel straight 6 twin turbo!!!😊😊😊
@2:25 if you read the article its only really coal that is the major culprit to CO2, the article noted Poland & China, which is majority powered by coal, which takes 77,000 miles before payback. However it missed out the UK, which is 1.5% coal, the real figure is approximatly 10,000 miles or a year. Once you take into account that many EV owners charge overnight which is near 100% Nuclear / Wind etc, then its not as bad as you, mail, macmaster etc are making out. Look on the back of your electric bill for the real figures. We're with EDF, and only 16% is from fossil fuels, with 63% french nuclear! :- which kind of makes me happy, not only that it cost 1.6p / mile to run, but also that our french counterparts are sorting out all the nuclear issues for us brits👍 sorry but this is:- # captin clueless
Another excellent podcast Geoff! Everything you touched on in this episode is on target, as usual. Keep informing us and keep poking holes in the very policies none of us would endorse if given the opportunity to vote on it. Amazing the level of stupidity underpinning these idiotic policies! Liked the Bentley by the way!
When I was a small human in the 1950s. my uncle Ray had a Bentley like the green ones in your vid, don't know the model, and an SS Jag. I remember being burned several times helping to strip the green paint off the Bentley with Nitromors for repainting. Great times, had much fun. He was a founder member of the Mid Cheshire Motor Club. Spent many happy hours at Oulton Park. How green were we then.? (No Armco then)
I think that as well as planting trees people should reinstall the living boundaries around their houses. No more panelling and brick walls and more hedgerows and bushes. Everywhere was green when I was young in the 70s, now it's and wood panels and driveways.
Try telling this to old Top Gear's Quentin Wilson. He gone full-on for electric cars. Problem is as well - this a policy that governments around the world want to push. There seems also to be a vested interest in it. All the major car manufacturers have laid down plans for electric vehicles. At the moment, I think a lot of public are blind to the problem.
They’ve been felling trees in towns and cities all over the uk but there’s hardly any news about that. Most likely for the installation of cameras to track and monitor everyone and their vehicles.
EV's drivers hypocracy knows no bounds - "I'm driving an EV, so look how green I am", as they leave a trail of environmental destruction behind them just so they can drive off the forecourt in a super-heavy, super expensive car that produces no emissions 'at the tailpipe'.
100%. Even when I was in school (a long time ago, 1980s/1990s) the class brown nose would do talks about why we should get rid of cars. Then at the end of the day their mum and dad came round (two streets away) to pick them up in a large 4x4 vehicle whilst I had a half hour walk home.
Yep, was speaking to my mates wife the other day and she was like "Yea we need to get cars off the road for the environment". I then asked her about her car and she said "Yes I do use my car too much actually". It's all just virtue signalling but it's someone else that needs to stop driving, not them.
Another thing worth mentioning is that a very high proportion of this generated energy never makes it to the end consumer as a very high proportion of it is utterly wasted while it travels through the cables. Also not all of the power that goes into the batteries comes out of them. This is why electrically powered cars were abandoned shortly after their invention over 130 years ago, the entire concept is fundamentally inefficient and that principle still applies today but in many ways even more so. Indeed internal combustion engine has never been more efficient and less polluting than they are now, and there is plenty of reasons to expect them to become even less so in the future. Indeed there is no reason why they can not be designed to produce ZERO emissions if the will, capital, and incentives were even close to that being wasted on EVs. If Co2 immissions were deemed a priority then investing in a technology that physically removes the Co2 from the exhaust would be massively more beneficial. However, as extra Co2 immissions are actually a good thing for the environment then this won't be even allowed to happen. I understand that such a technology already exists but was long since patented out of existence. All Government and corporate institutions work a simple principle of NEVER actually solving the problem that they were set up to solve. If they can get away with it, to positively make the problem worse if indeed the problem actually existed in the first place. I won't insult your intelligence by explaining why this has been the case since the dawn of civilization itself as the reason is so clear and obvious. OK, I will insult it as if the cap fits, wear it, and if not, don't, and as a lot of people stubbornly remain ignorant of how this world actually works. If they got rid of racism, wars, crime, poverty, and degradation of the human spirit in general they would all be out of a job. No more taxpayer or corporate-funded expense accounts, private schools for their kids, free travel, well-paid invitations to the BBC, even better-paid pathetically disingenuous articles in the Guardian, and wages for doing sod all that most people can only dream about. No, none of these things only eternity in the dole queues or jobs such as glorified telephone sanitizer which they may just about manage without deliberately breaking the telephone or stealing bith the cleaning equipment and disposables.
@@BionicRusty he taught me love of a well made ICE vehicle. Like his xjs jag also a dream car also second hand. His 1st vehicle being an old trasit with the sliding doors. I love a good combustion engine.
Geoff, thank you for your commentary, which should be seen around the world, and particularly by the self-serving and woke poleticians, who don’t really care for the environment or for the people who elected them.
Thanks once again, Geoff. Great stuff. Back when I was an Aeronautical Engineering student at uni I felt a bit embarassed that I rode a motorbike - with drag coefficient of 1.2 (worse than a brick) - so I set out to design as "slipperier" shape, which then led on to looking at engine design and fuel efficiency for the vehicle; time and time again it all came down to one simple answer - weight. This turned out to be the single most crucial element. To reduce the weight of the vehicle you need lighter components, starting with the engine... It is easily possible to make a full vehicle capable of carrying 4 adults and ample luggage which weighs less than half a ton, instead of the nearly 2 tons which we are seeing for typical family cars now. Japan tried with their Kei cars, Reliant made some really capable 3 wheelers (and light for wheelers), which not only delivered up to 70 mpg but ALSO saved the additional stresses on roads (and car parks) which we now have. We need light durable cars to address the whole issue of personal transport and the environment. EVs are a misguided distraction - not the solution. Make light vehicles which can last 40+ years
We have popular electric dirtbikes that weigh half as much as a motorcycle and competent ebikes that weigh a fraction of that. I find myself constantly wishing for ebikes to be taken seriously.
Also things that aren't as green as you think shops going paperless with receipts it's a data tracking scheme when cloths shops dump tons of unsold cloths in poor countries that break down and go into the food chain they cant bring themselves to give the cloths away and penny pinch all the way to the dump charging to even have the privilege to dump
We like our Kia Niro EV - it's small but drives nice and quietly, (and very very quickly) we bought it cheaply because it had high mileage, we get paid to drive it when octopus pay us to use electricity on windy days, and cheaply because of our solar panels on sunny days, and best of all, we can't be stopped from driving it if you're right about the end-game. Get them now while you can I say !!
I can imagine if you charge your EV if there is a surplus of solar/wind generated electric energy only on your network. In NL, this occurs at certain days in spring/summer autumn during daytime. However, most EV owners charge their vehicles at night, and drive during daytime. In NL, CO2 emissions by charging your EV are 252Gr/KWh on favourable days, and about 500Gr/KWh on other days.
Most Wind Farms and Solar Farms in the UK are backed up by diesel generators - the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine enough 85% of the time so the wind and solar farms are backed up by diesel generators - because these diesel generators are backing up the solar and wind farms they are counted as GREEN RENEWABLE ENERGY - so 85% of so the called GREEN RENEWABLE ENERGY is actually diesel generated.
We've ended up green by totally accident, but not the virtue signalling green, we're always on a low income we've always driven old cars and kept them and fixed them, years since we had to scrap one.when we did ever get any money we put in solar panels with a grant to help (just to save money) we mend, repair, grow our own veg, upcycle, recycle, swap stuff, use free sites. And do you know what, our carbon footprint *and our bills* are the lowest they have ever been in our lives by ignoring all the virtue signalling greenwash and just living greener when it worked out as a money saver or quality of life improver. We even brew our own booze, and that feels like a tax dodge lol. Not quite the "good life", but one more step away from the rat race.
moonshinepz Good for you. You have exercised one of the most green policys any one can employe that of "consumption reduction". Its excellent for the environment but has a terrible side effect if taken up by more people and that is it destroys a demand driven economy. This is where the work on a green economy needs to be done as at present its as good as non existant
If people don't remember to charge their cars. It's very similar to petrol really isn't it? You look at the gauge. You refill! It's not tough. I think RAC should charge a delivery charge.
We go to the woods on Sur Ron EVs, some lads charge them in the car park using petrol generators whilst having BBQs. These bikes are more exhilarating than ICE, easier to use, cost about 25p per hour to run if you charge at home. Motors don't need oil or new pistons every 10 hours. More fun than Karting at £1 per minute for the basic ones.
I have a petrol car with nearly 600 miles range. So before I get to the motorway I have enough fuel to complete the journey. As much as anything to avoid the high prices. But if I had an electric car with maybe 150 or 200 miles range on the motorway, the chances of running out is far greater.
To my mind both of those organisations are failing to represent and support their (motoring members). They tread a political path and won't challenge the "sacred cows" (ELUZ/EVs/road charging/ Fuel Duty/etc.) that the government raise to frustrate and limit our enjoyment of our vehicles.
The only thing you got right is that it's 40% more energy to produce an electric car than an ice, but on uk energy mix that loss is gained back after 12000 to 15000 miles.
@@oneeyedgirl617 That's true, at least the old bikes could be recycled if they were damaged beyond repair. Carbon composite is amazing stuff but recycling or repairing it is next to impossible.
Thanks Geoff. Keep up the fantastic work. We are all missing a trick tho. One that has been starring us in the face all along. LPG is 15% greener than petrol and can produce more power. Calor is now producing Bio LPG at a similar price to normal LPG. Its now called Futuria liquid gas. It is Calors` "Sustainable Energy Solution For Homes." Well im gunna put it in my 35yr old motorhome. Great argument for keeping our beloved combustion engines as the carbon to make them has already been spent.
@@grahamf695 Oh how I love the phrase; "a recent survey". Well, I've recently spoken to two friends who have both witnessed neighbour's EVs going up in flames -in spectacular fashion. Now, given that only a tiny percentage of vehicles are EVs, I should have spoken to about 20+ friends who have witnessed ICE fires in the same period -which I haven't. I should also point out the difference in intensity between ICE fires & EV fires, the special equipment required to deal with them, transport them, isolate them, etc, etc.
@@championn3c574 I saw a statement by a serving fireman who stated that aluminium blocks, when they catch fire are much more difficult to put out then a battery. Furthemore, whilst batteries are more difficult to extinguish there are considerable more ICE vehicle fires then there are EV's for every 100000 ICE cars just over 1500 whereas there are only just over 25 fires per 100000 EV cars sold
@@Sp_75-76 The 1500 ICE fires could include minor fuel or electrical fires, or maybe it includes all the vehicles that are getting torched in France, Sweden, etc. There are many ways to manipulate figures without actually telling a lie. I'd rather go with what I'm seeing & hearing than statistics complied groups that may not be impartial. I confess my Mk2 Astra had a couple of big fires during my ownership (only one of them my fault) but was repaired on both occasions & went on to be sold as a runner. I don't see that happening with an EV. I can't comment on the aluminium block statement but I doubt engine blocks often get hot enough to catch fire. After all, you can weld the stuff.
Hi Geoff. Back a few years ago when hard wood furniture was all the rage. I Remember them saying that a area the size of Germany was being cut down in Brazil per I bet that was not replanted.
Council were surveying trees in my area, they need to cut down the tall ones so the 5g can keep the surveillance grid (internet of things) functioning reliably. The frequencies need a clear path to us so a lot of the trees are going to cop it.
The new factory was announced on the local news last night. It seemed to be a great leap forward. Of course none of the environmental issues were raised. But, the biggest issue was not mentioned at all: namely that they will be too expensive for most people to own. It is about time that car ownership is enshrined as a basic right, just like a bank account. Even the most simplest tasks are dependent on personal transport. I can't think of any aspect of life where freedom of choice in a free market economy is so reduced.
Oh well, I guess we’ll no longer need cars once we’ve moved into caves, live on a diet of worms and dung and need permission to travel anywhere outside our village that can’t be reached on foot in under a day. Back to feudal England and serfdom I say. Such progress!
@@robinforrest7680 Mmmm, dung. I know what you mean about villages. 2 busses a day and 6 miles down a single car width lane, or a dual carriage way with no paths. Village life has changed so much, and they only remain viable places to live because of the car.
If you think about it, it's even worse than those figures state because a lot of the carbon footprint is up front in the making of the vehicle. Therefore, if you take into account those EVs that are written off long, long before they hit their carbon neutral milestone, you need to add that mileage on to the EVs that are left. Take care, Poo
That applies equally well to ICE vehicles and as EV’s are currently only about 3% of the current UK vehicles there are a lot more ICE vehicle that will apply to
@@Sp_75-76 Ah, but the carbon footprint of ICE is lower to start with so even adding in write off vehicles isn't going to increase things by same percentage of overall production.
There is a very small percentage of cars that are written off before there end of life, and there are some 30 times the number of ICE vehicles on the road is stands to reason EV’s are better for the environment. Sorry about the maths
@@Sp_75-76 But, ICE vehicles don't burst into flame for no reason, if they do catch fire it's generally because someone was doing something stupid. Years ago I had an Opel Manta GTE. It split a fuel line, sprayed fuel all over the hot engine and exhaust. (I had driven about 15 miles so it wasn't 'warming up') What happened? Except for frost forming on bonnet, absolutely nothing. New fuel line and good to go for another 3 years when I sold it
@@1crazypj I am not denying the EV’s do very rarely combust, and are then difficult to put out. In your example you were fine but data shows on average 300 ICE vehicles catch fire DAILY in the UK against 0.2 EV’s. Also manufacturers are moving away from lithium batteries into thing like LFP which don’t support thermal runaway, and research is going on into new battery designs all the time. All this hysteria has nothing to do with EV’s it is all to do with you being forced to buy one which by the way I do not believe will happen
Great video and awesome channel! I have also been wondering how mainstream media, especially mainstream car media hasn't had the slightest interest in expressing any kind of critique over EVs. They changed their tone few years ago almost overnight, and now they're praising the EV gospel. I had my wife's car MOTd the other day, and while waiting I was forced to browse through one recent issue of the biggest car magazines in my country, in the editorial the editor praised not only the electrification, but also the car's transformation into smart gadget where the focus shifts from hardware into software. Without a slightest critique. Not the direction I want to see cars heading, but what can we do?
nothing from the BBC mind you. They think EVs are marvellous. remember the aim is to make the EVs expensive so we have to share them and then regulate travel.
"decarbonized steel" so plain old iron then which tends to be much weaker than steel Steel is a family of iron carbon alloys, decarbonize it and you don't have steel. This is not the first time I've heard of making steel without carbon, and all I can think whenever I hear this is the person suggesting it (or in this case who wrote the article) has no clue of what steel is.
Your doing a great service Geoff, hope your message gets out to plenty people. The global billionaires running the world are complete nutters, nothing makes sense anymore...
Hey Geoff, in the interests of balance I watched the Fully Charges Show with Robert Llewellyn and Quentin Willson and some other bloke. Whinge? I honestly thought one or other would burst into tears. The whole of the media is against us and it's all rubbish. Well, some of it is and some dubious, but no figures for comparisons. So I suggested they refute the high initial cost and the crap residual value. I now realise as the owner of a 90 year old car and a 27 year old daily driver we are deeply into tree hugging... actually we are planting a number of trees on our land.
Absolutely not connected to EVs Geoff, but I received an email from my Gas/Electric supplier stating that they are "obligated by the Government to install smart meters in their customers homes" I never saw that one coming!
They’ve been hassling us in France for about 5 years to install « Linky » meters of this type. If you are unlucky enough to have a meter in a box outside your house they just do it. I got letters and phone calls repeatedly telling me they had to have access to my property so they could install it. After menacing spurious legal action (strangely they weren’t able to come up with a legal text to support that),they then threatened to charge me if they had to come and read the meter. I reminded them that in my contrat there is already a charge calculated to cover meter reading. In any case they never physically come more than once every 2 years because they either estimate consumption based on previous figures, or they ask ME to read the meter and send the results to them. They seem to have given up, just waiting for the next episode.😂
Just tell them you do not accept their (government initiated) offer and to 'B' Off. They are only obligated to offer you a meter there is currently no legislation that requires you to accept the offer.
Soon you’ll be hearing Ads on Tell-lie-vision like “ Have you been miss-sold an EV in the last few years ? No win No fee layers for you are here to help (themselves) make a claim for you 🙈🤣
Geoff, Yes plant trees, but not the monoculture pine forests that are pretty much devoid of wildlife All the while Scotland are tearing down thousands of trees every day to plant more wind turbines. How green is that? BTW, love your channel, good job 👍
How about the land grabs, tree cutting, and flood producing cement car charge parks, and solar array and wind turbine fields totally depending on weather for our energy? Instead of adding lots of tonnage to vehicles with dangerous batteries, maybe add just a little bit of poundage with better exhaust filters, which I’m sure they can come up with.
Most people don't like to think about the negatives, These are also the people who drive an EV to justify the flying holidays. Off course a petrol car can be made more efficient and there can be better filtering, but there is no profit in it.
Indeed, they probably are heading for 'don't go anywhere because of the climate emergency' angle. But whatever the reason, the timing is good for us as it adds to the weight of the points we've been putting to our local council on EVs!
Cheers Geoff. I buzzed you a mail a week or so ago with the actual CO2 numbers in the atmosphere - and the changes to it we've supposedly made. Give it a read if you get time for some perspective on these 'emissions', and how negligible they really are.....
@@Successfulgardendesign - I just got your email from your Facebook page messanger - so I'll buzz it over to you as I don't know when Geoff will find the time to find my email 🙂
@@Sp_75-76 The amount of energy from the sun is not enough to power this country per square mile (1kW per sq m) night and day. Don't patronise me with scientists or experts from the news: I'm an engineer
@@Sp_75-76 The numerous research studies on the viability of solar in the UK. Our climate doesn't support the use of 100% renewables since there are long periods in autumn and winter when there is nowhere near enough sunlight to power the nation even with deployment of panels on every bit of green space and rooftop. Not only that but we have long spells in winter during which there isn't enough wind either and since hydro isn't a backup since there aren't enough locations to flood (weirdly enough people don't like being forced out of their houses and farms to have the land flooded), we're in a tricky situation with renewable energy.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation being pushed at the moment, the daily Mail compared a Tesla model Y against a Kia Nero hybrid saying it has 20% more tyre wear, ignoring the fact that it has 200bhp more, also forgetting to mention most EVs create over 90% less brake dust because of regen braking. Whilst I agree some EVs are ridiculously heavy, mainly the German monstrosities with there huge 100 plus kWh batteries to make up for there embarrassing efficiency, there are plenty of sensible options that whey about as much as a typical bmw 3 series & won’t rip up the roads.
I'm surprised that the Daily Fail actually managed to mention Tesla. In the article that found it's way into my Google feed today, it mentioned that Audi Q8 eTron and Mercedes EQS dominate the SUV EV sales while not a single mention of the actual best selling EV in that segment. No Tesla advertising revnue, no mention. Any bollocks article as long as it appeals to the readership to create some kind of hate for something imaginary, that's their M.O.
The scary part is that we cannot plant ENOUGH trees to make a difference. I totally agree with you and your clips. Spot on. Unfortunately, planting trees is not going to save humanity. Please, plant trees because they are cool, but humans need to research reducing CO2 through scientific means. Not just planting trees and not by reducing the human population by starvation and freezing with energy reductions.
The brand new cars of today are the used cars of tomorrow, so assuming we aren't locked in our pods eating bugs in 10 years time , the cars that are on the dealership forecourts today are the cars a lot of us are going to be buying in the future. Honda and Toyota do not list one regular petrol or diesel car (with the exception of the Landcruiser or Type R) on their website. So assuming that the hybrid and electric models that they have for sale right now haven't been sent to landfill or recycled into cheap Chinese junk destined to end up in landfill a few years later, due them being no longer economical to repair thanks to the exorbitant cost of battery replacement, in the not too distant future there will be no motorised personal transport for the average guy in the street. The cost of used petrol and diesel cars will sky rocket, any old petrol or diesel car found in a field or a barn will be classed as a 'barn find' and people will be patching together rusty old pieces of junk just so people like nurses, teachers and carers can do their jobs without having to take out crippling loans or lease deals just so they can get to work.
Yeah ill admit its very short sighted the way they are trying to push EVs in the way they are. They are not as green as people say they are. But battery tech is always improving and ive driven the i pace and solely regarding driving experience, its a cracking car. Furthermore the UKs energy mix hardly relies on coal anymore (think there is 1 coal station in the country now). Your right we need to push tree planting but ultimately then should we really be relying on the oil industry because I bet thats one of the most polluting of them all??
As a retired petrol station manager. A part from everything else, what about the tanker drivers, forecourt cashiers and associated staff all being put out of work?
Your comment demonstrates that electric vehicles are a more efficient and cleaner way of living. We don’t need tankers clogging up our roads and spreading pollution. We have high immigration because we have too many jobs too fill.
Skoda do 30k a year lease upto 4 years Ford do 24k upto 4 years Hyundai do 30k Found plenty of lease companies for tesla doing 30k and one for 45k.. scary😮 Audi do 30k. Seriously, that's with 2 minutes of going to reach manufacturers website!😢😢
Assumes that at the end of the 3 year lease period the car ceases to exist? Um ... no. Also: the grid gets better every day, the environmental impact of fossil fuels (especially extraction) only gets worse.
You think Petrol companies won't do everything in their power to spread misinformation about EV cars? I can guarantee Daily Mail will have to amend the article featured in Geoffs video due to misinformation. Not that DM will care, they have already spread their misinformation and the dafties just suck it up so for them that is a win. No one reads the amended articles, damage has already be done. The Guardian had to do the same for Rowan Atkinsons bullshittery article the other week.
Also they never mention the fact that when someone gets an EV Car. They are usually scraping a perfectly usable ICE Car that has many miles left before it is Knackered. So if replace something that dose not need replacing = more carbon. Or if the ICE car are not scrapped they are shipped off cheap to other parts of the world. So now we have two cars in the world instead of one.
Unbelievable. How about the ICE drivers that scrap a perfectly good ICE car, so they can get a new model. More to the point, who scraps a perfectly good car?
Who are these strangers aka the government to determine what we can drive? If we want to drive petrol we will drive them. Again they want to have a control over the public and whilst doing that, why not milk us dry too. I tend to have a discussion with a few daily about how EVs are not clean and it’s all fed in the media but they won’t have any of that, they will stick by what they have been told or maybe it’s purely because they need to justify why they own an EV. Great video Geoff, keep these EV facts coming as it will hopefully educate many who think otherwise.
there is no argument the EV's are cleaner then ICE cars, it is just about the time to brake even. and once the car has reached this point every mile driven therafter will not add to the polution situation. Every week, more and more green energy is coming on line, so in 10 years time it will be a whole different situation, but ICE cars will still be pushing outexhaust fumes, which is why the MOT test includes an emissions test.
Geoff, i went to a school called woodlands fields high school years ago ,The head mistress was called tereasa green ,and the deputy head was called forest Hump .And the dinner lady was called daisy flower . And our Caretaker was called woody stumpole.True .
Bit of research will answer your question Key facts A significant reduction in the consumption of ozone-depleting substances (ODS) has been achieved globally since 1986. This reduction has largely been driven by the 1987 United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) Montreal Protocol. The largest historical extent of the ozone hole - 28.4 million km² - occurred in September 2000. This area is equivalent to almost seven times the territory of the EU. In late September 2022, the Antarctic ozone hole reached its maximum area of 24.5 million km². Up until early November 2022, the Antarctic ozone hole has been similarly large and long-lasting to the ones recorded in 2021 and 2020. Depletion of stratospheric ozone occurs over both hemispheres of the Earth. However, this phenomenon is more pronounced in the Southern Hemisphere (Antarctica) than in the Northern Hemisphere (Arctic). This is the case because the formation of the ozone hole is directly linked to the stratosphere's temperature. Once temperatures drop below -78°C, polar stratospheric clouds tend to form, which exacerbate ozone depletion. In the Antarctic, long presence of low temperatures in the stratosphere is stimulating their formation, whereas the Arctic is characterised by larger year-to-year meteorological variability. Generally, the ozone hole is defined as the area in which ozone column values amount to 220 Dobson Units (DU) or less, marked by the thick contour line and represented in blue colours in Figure 1. This is only apparent in the Southern Hemisphere. Here, the largest historical extent of the ozone hole 28.4 million km² (Figures 1 and 2) occurred in September 2000. This area is equivalent to more than six times the territory of the EU.
In Scotland they cut down a huge area of tall trees to put wind turbines in their place. Because you know, we need to care about the environment, or something.
The problem is we have forgotten the story of the King;s magic suit of clothes. Marketing are designing the cars, people are seeing what mdia is telling them, hense people buy EV;s.
Now 72, but some of the happiest work days of my life was building Rolls Royce and Bentley cars at Mulliner Park Wards @ Hythe Road Harlesden. Not a robot in sight.
The Anti BEV (battery electric vehicle) by the likes of the Mail is simply down to the fact the BEV companies may not advertising with them anymore. (cynical view)
Flat cap, jumper, sat in a Bentley, you look like a perfect fifties film bad lad 😂 I remember at school going around planting trees- ‘Plant a tree in ‘73 ‘ was the slogan, and ‘ Plant some more in ‘74’ Happy days!
i am so ready to give up now...!
Please don’t. You made me more aware of what’s going on. Keep your chin up. Hopefully the more aware most people are the more pushback will happen
Don't worry Geoff, more and more people are waking up to the scam because of energy prices. It's starting to cost everyone money now, that's how you get people's attention
When they're cutting down millions of trees to build wind farms, when you have Gates, Gore, Kerry etc living in beachfront mansions and flying around in private jets, it's pretty obvious reducing CO2 emissions is not the real goal.
The real goal is taking away your personal freedom. It's all about reducing your standard of living.
Great 👉
Hold on. This isn't taking into account real world miles per kWh - which plummet in cold weather while ice become more efficient thanks to re-using waste heat.
Or how about their extra weight which hammers roads more?
Or what about their much lower payloads which mean if you want a car to do the same job you need an even larger one with an even more overweight battery?
It also doesn't take into account that grid electricity usually (and moreso when demand is high) comes from a grid which uses - at best - 60% efficient power stations.
With a 95% efficient electric motor that sounds great.
What about getting that power from the power station to the road? Power station to transformer, transmission box, lines, local box, transformer, house meter, fuse box, charger, battery, controller, motor - at every point it loses a certain percentage of its power - between 2% and 5% usually - and most of the time the battery will need cooling or heating and if left in the cold or heat that need continues.
In a decent ice the motor runs at around 40% efficiency and by the time it gets to the wheels thats usually between 25% and 35% depending on load and use - almost exactly the same as the overall efficiency of the ev.
But with a much lighter car to move, a heap less emissions to make, no concerns about a massive battery that can't really be recycled efficiently, potential for well north of 200k miles if looked after and a fairly unlimited timespan in which to cover that.
It can also tow, carry a reasonable amount of people and cargo and doesn't need billions of quid of infrastructure creating environmental destruction everywhere it goes thanks to overly limited range.
Hybrids make sense because they allow an ice to operate near its maximum efficiency more often. Plug-ins make sense if you have solar because they can usually take on enough to make full use of that while keeping the battery much more healthy for longer than an ev and not needing anywhere near the capacity in the first place.
Battery ev's only make sense if you use them to pretty much the edge of their range every time over lots of miles and even then only if used on a lot of renewables - even then thats before we go down the rabbit hole of how clean renewables really are when you include the maintenance, lifespan and fragility of most.
Of course the more ev's the more demand on the grid and the less percentage of that power can come from renewables so its a catch 22 that sooner or later with mass uptake the ev will end up more dirty than an ice.
I think its fairly obvious to any sane person that ev's are certainly not the planet saving second coming they are made out to be.
Want to watch emissions drop through the floor? Stop people commuting into large cities for jobs which do not require their physical presense - especially from some of the larger distances which can be over 100 miles each way.
People who travel into London (for example) to sit in an office infront of a computer do not need to be there in the first place and certainly don't need to travel 25, 50, 75 miles each way in rush hour to do it.
If you have a look at the figures its astonishing how many people commute and how far from - all to sit on the internet in exactly the same way as they would in their living room.
Those offices could be used to aleviate the housing crisis and the time spent in traffic polluting the planet could be spent making a cuppa before work.
The rush hour traffic would be cut in half meaning less emissions from the people travelling as they don't have to sit in a line of traffic, overall average mileages would plummet - meaning far less wear and tear on cars, roads and far less fuel burn and people would get an extra hour or two at each end of the day where they aren't wasting it.
I understand that to some the office is a social club which is simply an extension of their school days but I feel like they need to grow up at some point - especially as these are usually the people with company cars who bleat on about how great their ev is.
Why is work from home when able not the norm and why should people who use their cars sensibly and when required be forced to pay a small fortune for vehicles we don't want to replace vehicles we already have which over our low mileage will be better for the planet in the first place?
I have no problem with high mile users but I have a massive problem with wasteful users.
No one is going to be bothered if you like to pop to the seaside now and then but why waste hundreds of miles per week going to a job which really doesn't need you there?
As an owner of a 53 year old car (and a 22 year old one),this is now becoming embarrassing as i'm nearly qualifying as a tree hugger!
Hippie!
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Haha 😂
You're doing much more for the environment by using those old cars rather than chucking them and buying a new one than any EV owner is.
2000 Chevy pickup truck with 282k miles. Nothing to benefit by getting rid of it since it still runs and drives great. BTW how can I haul the things I need in a little EV.
Well said, I have been saying the same thing for years. It's not about the environment, all about control.
I totally agree and have also been saying the same for a long long time
Mate it's not about control, it's about greed. The car manufactures see that gas powered cars are on the way out and this heavy lean into electric cars is them trying to hold on to their profits like the good little capitalists they are. This is despite the fact that no infrastructure network on the planet could even handle a full switch to electric. The real solution has been around for a long time now and it's trains, trams and metro's. They are way more energy efficient than an electric car and can transport way more people in one go.
And the money laundering machine goes Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Wood chips are burnt at Drax power station, and yes they are produced in the USA and shipped over here to be burnt at Drax. Fun fact Drax does not have to count any emissions from its own power generation process as part of its annual emissions report etc.
And from Canada and they are chopping down forests then processing the wood through a factory to make pellets. Bio mass requires approximately four times the amount by weight of coal to produce the same amount of steam to power the generators. Coal power stations have their chimneys go through a scrubber Wood stations do not it’s all a scam
Not just Drax, but, Ferrybridge as well
Most Wind Farms and Solar Farms in the UK are backed up by diesel generators - the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine enough 85% of the time so the wind and solar farms are backed up by diesel generators - because these diesel generators are backing up the solar and wind farms they are counted as GREEN RENEWABLE ENERGY - so 85% of so the called GREEN RENEWABLE ENERGY is actually diesel generated.
You forgot to mention that Drax receives over a BILLION pounds a year in taxpayers money vis subsidies for being so “green”. Oh yes they do. As the saying goes, you couldn’t make this sh*t up.
@@therealunclevanya is Ferrybridge not burning waste in the new units? Forgot to mention Lynemouth which also burns wood pellets
Please keep growing your brilliant channel Geoff
You are spreading sense to the generation that weren’t born with any
There's ignorance in every generation, most grow out of it!
Non-sense I think you meant to say
Geoff just spreads manufactured anger. He's quite funny! 🤣🤣
Geoff, we can't plant trees as we need that extra space for the houses we need for all our new friends!
and for the solar panels and wind turbines...
@@Michael-hm8cs Scotland cut down nearly 16 million trees to accommodate wind farms. How is that 'green'???
@@Michael-hm8cs
Yep, pollution from production of wind farms is horrific.
Production of fiberglass filament, metal smelting, constant maintenance and the damage to environment
There is also the killing thousands of birds a year being hit by massive spinning blades
Good points - apart from the birds.
Study in a migration hotspot near Gibraltar found the only birds slow and dumb enough to get killed were Griffon Vultures - and hardly any of them.
At Primary school in the 1960's we were taught that the motorways would be a good thing because the cars trucks etc making long / fast journeys would basically be in tree lined "valleys" that would absorb the carbon to make our towns safe.. As a "Dinosaur" now I think we need to stand and be counted as this all tax and fk all to do with climate etc and I'm now more bothered about the BS my grandchildren will have to endure.
It would be great if trees had actually been planted along motorways instead of being cut down.
A 100ft 'safe zone' would be an improvement from what I remember of traveling M4 pretty regular (in case high winds blew tree over)
It would be pretty simple to have access points at all the 'Police observation' area's and fast growing pine or slow growing deciduous planted to absorb carbon emissions with very little impact on the farm land. plus, there are already subsidies for tree planting (that way you wouldn't need new access roads across farmland)
I like the point made by Geoff. If they were honest the first decision would be to ban short term car leasing. However in today society banning a financial product is perceived as pure blasphemy
The whole conecpt that you should change your car every three years is just bonkers. I'm 44 and have had three vehicles (all pre-owned) in my lifetime (4 if you count the old Nova borrowed from my Mum after I first passed my test!). Doing so saves hundreds of thousands of pounds and reduces overall emissions hugely. I do expect there to be a limit on how often you can replace your car at some point, but the climate will have to be perceived by the public to be getting a lot worse before such a move would be supported at the ballot box, so at least 10-15 years away.
Having the wrong political view is bad for your wealth, just ask Nigel Farage. BTW the best thing for the planet would be to stop felling rain-forest, or better yet, stop breeding people.
There is no climate crisis and no need for EVS, solar, wind.
Just like if they were honest all these tree huggers would only have one child and be reducing the population pressure. Notice not one of them wants to discuss that sacrifice: better to lecture others.
@@gingermattb I have kept my last two cars until they were 10-11 years old. I plan to do the same with my recently purchased used electric car. As you say, it is so much more cost effective.
Plant a tree in 73 we had when I was at school, they are still in my Dads garden.
I think at school in the 70s we were taught better about the environment than they are today. kids today think it is all new, but we had classes in environmental studies in the early 70s. And they were not political nor did they have this modern agenda. I remember the trees planting. They have to thank or generation for a lot of todays trees 👍
Great video Geoff, it reinforces what I was saying to a startled youngster the other day that I am going to be green by staying driving my Skoda diesel because to generate the CO2 of building an EV I would have to drive my car for more than 22 years by which time I will probably be dead and certainly not driving. Keep banging the gong !
They sort of buggred the EV thing up didn't they 🧐
Barrelling for battery looks almost as green as dash for diesel.
Just a little bit 🤣🤣🤣
If you believe clickbait social media yes.
Meanwhile in the real world....... no !
Anyone with a bit of sense knows how a battery works Also how they are not up to the job also no good way of charging it.
@@SDK2006b In the"real world" I run a body shop, and nobody wants to touch them.
I especially don't want any damaged EV's in or around my premises, mainly due to the fire risk.
*The plan isn't to make us all drive EVs. The plan is to make us all stop driving.*
Nonsense. The Government couldn't afford to lose the £35 billion they rake in from the UK motorist each year. The jobless total would also rise by at least 2 million, possibly more, with 800'000 jobs lost in the UK car making industry alone. Then there would be the jobs lost in the associated sectors, such as car dealerships, oil refineries, garage repair shops, tyre fitting depots, petrol stations, car washes, places like Halfords, thousands of jobs would go in the car insurance industry, Local Authority road maintenance crews etc etc. And you thought it was as simple as doing away with cars.......
Yep
We will all stop driving because we are the carbon they want rid of.
All of the other stuff is just to keep us occupied so we don't wake up!
Less unemployment, if we were all dead !
@@Brian-om2hh Good post!! The Government does not give a shit to anyone!! We have seen that with Jab and they are a Joke..... and they must go as soon as possible.
One more fact: Our house electric bills will double, triple and more even if most will never have an EV!
People just don't get it yet.
Cost for diesel car, £0.13 per mile
Cost on EV electric tariff, £0.0168p per mile.
Average daily driving is 24 miles.
Diesel =£3.12
EV=40p
X365
Diesel =£1139
EV=£146
@@crumbschief5628 EV car, $ 60,000. Diesel car, $ 30,000. Bicycle, non electric, $ 500. Replace 1 electric motor on Tesla, $ 12,000. Replace diesel engine found at junkyard, $ 3,000. Replace stolen bicycle, $ 500. Electric home charger and Solar system for EV, $ 25,000. Diesel canister, 5x 20 Liter filled $ 150 for in home refueling. Bicycle polish and chain oil, $ 12.
Electric bill for a single household in 2030, $ 500 / month. Diesel $ 5 / gallon. Bicycle still free to operate. AND THE WINNER IS ... ;)
@@crumbschief5628Let's say you save £1000 a year. The EV costs £20k more to buy. 20 years before breaking even...
@@crumbschief5628you are assuming that the government will never tax EVs the same as petrol and diesel cars. The government will need to replace that money sooner or later.
@@Mark.D.H. that depends on the car you were going to buy in the first place. Car prices are high now. If you are buying a 3 series BMW it's comparable to a Tesla M3. There's a difference but you way over state it.
Well done Geoff, you found what we in the automotive industry have known for years. I think Geoff needs a Knighthood for expressing how STUPID the human race really is. It ignores the big issues to push it's commercial consumer agenda , easily hoodwinking the gullible, misinformed, unkowledgeable buyers
Using the Daily Mail as some sort of fact based journalism is laughable. And you call other people STUPID. 😄
@@gibroon4418 It's not where it came from -- it's the content -- and they have found part of the poison that exists in the EV dream ... Humans think they are saving the world with EV cars... not a chance ... I have been Hydrogen and EV devt teams for 12 years. Show me something that is carbon neutral... even a kiddies bike isnt carbon neutral. Just dont get caught up in the hype....It's stupid.
@@1sostatic
Absolutely agree that nothing is carbon neutral but it is about sustainability. You can absolutely say there is toxicity involved in EV manufacturing but you can never say that an ICE car is less toxic.
So if you are saying we shouldn't have either car, then I can agree. That would be the best for sure. What I don't understand is the sheer fear/loathing and dread of EVs. Can't we have an alternative? This channel is all about old cars. There will be old ICE cars on the roads well after I die.
I just don't understand the need for such derision towards what is just a car at the end of the day.
@@gibroon4418 It doesnt "fix" the problem either way -- it just "shifts" the problem. ... lets have same discussion in 10 years time. ... when we're back to fossil fuels because they realise too late they (the politically unknowledgable) got it wrong.
@@gibroon4418 It only shifts the problem.. it doesnt "fix it"...you're being fed a lie and a dream. ... a politicians dream... and how much should you believe in them?
EVs are a scam.
EVs sole purpose is to drive up the cost of vehicles. Average EV is 62k. Average gas vehicle is 40k.
And government is forcing manufacturers to make EVs and not invest in gas vehicles so the prices will continue to rise.
EVs are worse for the environment as they require you to destroy the earth to mine for the metals needed in batteries.
EVs don't reduce carbon emissions until you drive over 100k miles. If we all drove an EV it would only drop carbon emissions by 0.4%
EVs also require a compromise in driving. They can't tow. They do horrible at highway speeds as they lose efficiency. And they're awful in inclement weather like wind or cold.
EVs are a scam.....and thats before the repair bill hits because repairs increase cost of ownership way over gas equivalents.
Such crap you spew
Definitely seems we are being priced off the road and evs are being used as a lever .There is only one issue , which is that of towing . I saw a white tesla last week towing a reasonably sized caravan .
@@richm2835 an EV can tow.... For a very short distance in town. But it drops mileage by 2/3. When you only have 100 miles to tow that doesn't give you much flexibility
Incorrect. The average price of an EV is £50k. No one is telling to go out and buy a 120k ev. The 100k mile figure is just made up garbage.
@@Richard482 that's not made up at all. The price is the price.... Tax incentives are not rebates.
And the 100k number is absolutely accurate. You should look at how your blood batteries are produced with child labor, slave labor, and huge machines, plus the energy used to charge your blood batteries still produce carbon and fossil fuels.
You've been lied to. Sorry I'm the one to finally educate you.
I think it is more important now for all of us that are awake,to try and wake those up that are still asleep.We can't just keep watching Geoff,Richard Vobes ,we have to wake more people up as we need to be acting.This whole green agenda is the biggest con of all time and it is THE reason to take away our freedoms.
That Bentley doesn’t run on petrol. It runs on coal and the souls of snowflakes
You forgot the tears of vegans
@abarthspider3479 Snowflake?
@@GeoffBuysCars and all Green Party members.
@abarthspider3479 You are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, it seems.
The 'steering wheel' in the Bentley Owner's Manual is referred to as the 'Rudder'.
"Trust the science!" "Wait no, not THAT science" " Trust OUR science". - every politician.
The pushback has well and truly started - thankfully. The environmental carnage from EV production can no longer be ignored!
Neither can the levels of pollution in our towns and cities, caused by 100 years of ICE.....
You’ve only got to watch a recent fully charged show to see the EV evangelists are rattled! 😂
@@robinforrest7680 They are not rattled, they are just sick of fake data, and want the opportunity to reply with a valid provable argument
Where is the source of you environmental carnage coming from? It is the environmental carnage caused by ICE vehicles which has led to the development of EV’s in the first place
LOL
All the production of all EV batteries and EV cars and extraction of all the raw materials for their production combined can never even match the environmental damage done by just a few oil tanker disasters.
It amazes me how far some people go in defending interests of huge multibillion dollar fossil fuel megacorps that slowly kill you and your children for profit. Not to mention causing the obvious global warming and it's implications.
So many Europeans think it's not their problem, because Europe will not be made uninhabitable by climate change. Well, once you have hundreds of millions of migrants knocking at your door it will be your problem too.
Can somebody tell The Electric Viking that we in the UK don't want EVs. According to his latest video, sales in France and Germany are taking off and they get can't enough of them. These people in these countries must be well off to afford an EV. I could ramble on all day about them but I'll leave that to you.
His subs are really nasty they attack like guard dogs. I'm sure he is taking back handers from chyna..
He’s talking garbage. We drove right across Germany and France in April and the number of EVs we saw was less than 5%.
Every charging point ( that offers ten spaces and under cover ) that we saw was empty.
@@helmethead72Hello friend, l live in Germany and it has been said that the VW electric car plans in Emden is stopping production due to the lack of sales. They have a huge number of unwanted car's and loads of workers will be laid off. From what l can gather through comments on UT, the German folk are not interested in EV's due to the high cost and low range of distance. I'll stick to my diesel straight 6 twin turbo!!!😊😊😊
Do you know what the most popular car is in UK right now?? So given its the Model Y then to our argument does not stand factually.
@@helmethead72but you don't deny the new car sales do you?
@2:25 if you read the article its only really coal that is the major culprit to CO2, the article noted Poland & China, which is majority powered by coal, which takes 77,000 miles before payback. However it missed out the UK, which is 1.5% coal, the real figure is approximatly 10,000 miles or a year. Once you take into account that many EV owners charge overnight which is near 100% Nuclear / Wind etc, then its not as bad as you, mail, macmaster etc are making out. Look on the back of your electric bill for the real figures. We're with EDF, and only 16% is from fossil fuels, with 63% french nuclear! :- which kind of makes me happy, not only that it cost 1.6p / mile to run, but also that our french counterparts are sorting out all the nuclear issues for us brits👍
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Another excellent podcast Geoff! Everything you touched on in this episode is on target, as usual.
Keep informing us and keep poking holes in the
very policies none of us would endorse if
given the opportunity to vote on it. Amazing the
level of stupidity underpinning these idiotic
policies! Liked the Bentley by the way!
This is just mindless regurgitation of fossil fuel lobby propaganda. Nothing more.
Roads are engineered for lgv, 7.5tons unladen to 44tons laden. My battery adds 350kg. I don't think that's a problem to the roads.
When I was a small human in the 1950s. my uncle Ray had a Bentley like the green ones in your vid, don't know the model, and an SS Jag. I remember being burned several times helping to strip the green paint off the Bentley with Nitromors for repainting. Great times, had much fun. He was a founder member of the Mid Cheshire Motor Club. Spent many happy hours at Oulton Park. How green were we then.? (No Armco then)
Nitromors wouldn’t strip the paint of a turd these days with it’s watered down recipe
I think that as well as planting trees people should reinstall the living boundaries around their houses. No more panelling and brick walls and more hedgerows and bushes. Everywhere was green when I was young in the 70s, now it's and wood panels and driveways.
Some new builds are terrible for this. Luckily who ever planned our neighbourhood actually thought about the environment somewhat...
I can see it now. " Were you mis sold an electric car?" adverts.
Try telling this to old Top Gear's Quentin Wilson. He gone full-on for electric cars.
Problem is as well - this a policy that governments around the world want to push. There seems also to be a vested interest in it. All the major car manufacturers have laid down plans for electric vehicles.
At the moment, I think a lot of public are blind to the problem.
Thank goodness!! At last the reality is starting to show through…..thanks for this video!
Many of us have instictively understood this issues with EV's and it's good it is laid out comprehenisvely by Ross Clark
@@bingoflangeworthy wrong, this is not the definition of confirmation bias.
On GB News today SNP admits to
Felling 16 million trees to develop
Wind Farms ....CRAZY
Really! Ffs this cult is insane and dangerous
They’ve been felling trees in towns and cities all over the uk but there’s hardly any news about that. Most likely for the installation of cameras to track and monitor everyone and their vehicles.
The people that have EV's don't care about how ungreen it is to make a EV just as long long as it makes them look like they care .😂
Greenwashing just like the politicians. Thank god Geoff is here.
...in their fake virtuous world.
EV's drivers hypocracy knows no bounds - "I'm driving an EV, so look how green I am", as they leave a trail of environmental destruction behind them just so they can drive off the forecourt in a super-heavy, super expensive car that produces no emissions 'at the tailpipe'.
100%. Even when I was in school (a long time ago, 1980s/1990s) the class brown nose would do talks about why we should get rid of cars. Then at the end of the day their mum and dad came round (two streets away) to pick them up in a large 4x4 vehicle whilst I had a half hour walk home.
Yep, was speaking to my mates wife the other day and she was like "Yea we need to get cars off the road for the environment". I then asked her about her car and she said "Yes I do use my car too much actually". It's all just virtue signalling but it's someone else that needs to stop driving, not them.
Another thing worth mentioning is that a very high proportion of this generated energy never makes it to the end consumer as a very high proportion of it is utterly wasted while it travels through the cables. Also not all of the power that goes into the batteries comes out of them. This is why electrically powered cars were abandoned shortly after their invention over 130 years ago, the entire concept is fundamentally inefficient and that principle still applies today but in many ways even more so. Indeed internal combustion engine has never been more efficient and less polluting than they are now, and there is plenty of reasons to expect them to become even less so in the future. Indeed there is no reason why they can not be designed to produce ZERO emissions if the will, capital, and incentives were even close to that being wasted on EVs.
If Co2 immissions were deemed a priority then investing in a technology that physically removes the Co2 from the exhaust would be massively more beneficial. However, as extra Co2 immissions are actually a good thing for the environment then this won't be even allowed to happen. I understand that such a technology already exists but was long since patented out of existence.
All Government and corporate institutions work a simple principle of NEVER actually solving the problem that they were set up to solve. If they can get away with it, to positively make the problem worse if indeed the problem actually existed in the first place. I won't insult your intelligence by explaining why this has been the case since the dawn of civilization itself as the reason is so clear and obvious. OK, I will insult it as if the cap fits, wear it, and if not, don't, and as a lot of people stubbornly remain ignorant of how this world actually works.
If they got rid of racism, wars, crime, poverty, and degradation of the human spirit in general they would all be out of a job. No more taxpayer or corporate-funded expense accounts, private schools for their kids, free travel, well-paid invitations to the BBC, even better-paid pathetically disingenuous articles in the Guardian, and wages for doing sod all that most people can only dream about. No, none of these things only eternity in the dole queues or jobs such as glorified telephone sanitizer which they may just about manage without deliberately breaking the telephone or stealing bith the cleaning equipment and disposables.
My dad used to have silver shadow. Secondhand of course but what a lovely car. That was back in the 90's it was his dream.
Beautiful ❤️
@@BionicRusty he taught me love of a well made ICE vehicle. Like his xjs jag also a dream car also second hand. His 1st vehicle being an old trasit with the sliding doors. I love a good combustion engine.
I bought a 1982 Silver Spirit last year. At 40 years old she's Tax and ULEZ exempt luxury!
@@TachyonDriver brilliant enjoy.
@Lookup2Wakeup showing your age dude, I'm surprised you didn't call it a johnny!
As always jeff thank you for all you do Godbless you always and the same to all the lovely people on here
HOW ABOUT PUTTING A LITTLE GREEN STICKER ON EVERY NUMBERPLATE ON OLDER PETROL/DIESEL CARS...But would the WOKE BRIGADE SEE THE IRONY?..nah.
Geoff, thank you for your commentary, which should be seen around the world, and particularly by the self-serving and woke poleticians, who don’t really care for the environment or for the people who elected them.
Thanks once again, Geoff. Great stuff. Back when I was an Aeronautical Engineering student at uni I felt a bit embarassed that I rode a motorbike - with drag coefficient of 1.2 (worse than a brick) - so I set out to design as "slipperier" shape, which then led on to looking at engine design and fuel efficiency for the vehicle; time and time again it all came down to one simple answer - weight. This turned out to be the single most crucial element. To reduce the weight of the vehicle you need lighter components, starting with the engine... It is easily possible to make a full vehicle capable of carrying 4 adults and ample luggage which weighs less than half a ton, instead of the nearly 2 tons which we are seeing for typical family cars now. Japan tried with their Kei cars, Reliant made some really capable 3 wheelers (and light for wheelers), which not only delivered up to 70 mpg but ALSO saved the additional stresses on roads (and car parks) which we now have. We need light durable cars to address the whole issue of personal transport and the environment. EVs are a misguided distraction - not the solution. Make light vehicles which can last 40+ years
I missed this comment when first reading replies.
Your totally right of course but people are too lazy and too stupid to see common sense
We have popular electric dirtbikes that weigh half as much as a motorcycle and competent ebikes that weigh a fraction of that.
I find myself constantly wishing for ebikes to be taken seriously.
I always look forward to watching your update’s Geoff top man. Common sense needs to prevail
Also things that aren't as green as you think shops going paperless with receipts it's a data tracking scheme when cloths shops dump tons of unsold cloths in poor countries that break down and go into the food chain they cant bring themselves to give the cloths away and penny pinch all the way to the dump charging to even have the privilege to dump
We like our Kia Niro EV - it's small but drives nice and quietly, (and very very quickly) we bought it cheaply because it had high mileage, we get paid to drive it when octopus pay us to use electricity on windy days, and cheaply because of our solar panels on sunny days, and best of all, we can't be stopped from driving it if you're right about the end-game. Get them now while you can I say !!
"But my supplier only supplies me with renewable energy", they say. 🙄
And where does *your* energy come from?
Of course they do! Don't they cut you off when the wind isn't blowing? 😂
I can imagine if you charge your EV if there is a surplus of solar/wind generated electric energy only on your network. In NL, this occurs at certain days in spring/summer autumn during daytime. However, most EV owners charge their vehicles at night, and drive during daytime. In NL, CO2 emissions by charging your EV are 252Gr/KWh on favourable days, and about 500Gr/KWh on other days.
Most Wind Farms and Solar Farms in the UK are backed up by diesel generators - the wind don't blow and the sun don't shine enough 85% of the time so the wind and solar farms are backed up by diesel generators - because these diesel generators are backing up the solar and wind farms they are counted as GREEN RENEWABLE ENERGY - so 85% of so the called GREEN RENEWABLE ENERGY is actually diesel generated.
@@raytrevor1Some EV home chargers can be set to do exactly that.
We've ended up green by totally accident, but not the virtue signalling green, we're always on a low income we've always driven old cars and kept them and fixed them, years since we had to scrap one.when we did ever get any money we put in solar panels with a grant to help (just to save money) we mend, repair, grow our own veg, upcycle, recycle, swap stuff, use free sites. And do you know what, our carbon footprint *and our bills* are the lowest they have ever been in our lives by ignoring all the virtue signalling greenwash and just living greener when it worked out as a money saver or quality of life improver. We even brew our own booze, and that feels like a tax dodge lol. Not quite the "good life", but one more step away from the rat race.
moonshinepz
Good for you.
You have exercised one of the most green policys any one can employe that of "consumption reduction".
Its excellent for the environment but has a terrible side effect if taken up by more people and that is it destroys a demand driven economy. This is where the work on a green economy needs to be done as at present its as good as non existant
The AA and RAC will become mobile charging and towing services with a fleet of diesel generators. 🤣🤣🤣
If people don't remember to charge their cars. It's very similar to petrol really isn't it? You look at the gauge. You refill! It's not tough. I think RAC should charge a delivery charge.
We go to the woods on Sur Ron EVs, some lads charge them in the car park using petrol generators whilst having BBQs. These bikes are more exhilarating than ICE, easier to use, cost about 25p per hour to run if you charge at home. Motors don't need oil or new pistons every 10 hours. More fun than Karting at £1 per minute for the basic ones.
I have a petrol car with nearly 600 miles range. So before I get to the motorway I have enough fuel to complete the journey. As much as anything to avoid the high prices. But if I had an electric car with maybe 150 or 200 miles range on the motorway, the chances of running out is far greater.
Not sure how many EV's can be towed, I think they need to be transported
To my mind both of those organisations are failing to represent and support their (motoring members).
They tread a political path and won't challenge the "sacred cows" (ELUZ/EVs/road charging/ Fuel Duty/etc.) that the government raise to frustrate and limit our enjoyment of our vehicles.
The only thing you got right is that it's 40% more energy to produce an electric car than an ice, but on uk energy mix that loss is gained back after 12000 to 15000 miles.
The carbon cycle was the first thing/concept i remember learning at school! Crazy times
Yes, the Tour de France has never been the same since they went away from Reynolds steel frames..
@@oneeyedgirl617 bugger, I was going to say that 😕
@@oneeyedgirl617 That's true, at least the old bikes could be recycled if they were damaged beyond repair. Carbon composite is amazing stuff but recycling or repairing it is next to impossible.
Thanks Geoff. Keep up the fantastic work. We are all missing a trick tho. One that has been starring us in the face all along. LPG is 15% greener than petrol and can produce more power. Calor is now producing Bio LPG at a similar price to normal LPG. Its now called Futuria liquid gas. It is Calors` "Sustainable Energy Solution For Homes." Well im gunna put it in my 35yr old motorhome. Great argument for keeping our beloved combustion engines as the carbon to make them has already been spent.
It would be interesting to factor in the emissions caused when they catch 'light, often taking innocent vehicles & big chunks of tarmac with them.
A recent survey in Norway showed that ICE vehicles catch fire much more frequently than EVs.
@@grahamf695 - Great, but in contrast, EV fires are much more difficult to put out than ICE vehicle fires.
@@grahamf695 Oh how I love the phrase; "a recent survey". Well, I've recently spoken to two friends who have both witnessed neighbour's EVs going up in flames -in spectacular fashion. Now, given that only a tiny percentage of vehicles are EVs, I should have spoken to about 20+ friends who have witnessed ICE fires in the same period -which I haven't. I should also point out the difference in intensity between ICE fires & EV fires, the special equipment required to deal with them, transport them, isolate them, etc, etc.
@@championn3c574 I saw a statement by a serving fireman who stated that aluminium blocks, when they catch fire are much more difficult to put out then a battery. Furthemore, whilst batteries are more difficult to extinguish there are considerable more ICE vehicle fires then there are EV's for every 100000 ICE cars just over 1500 whereas there are only just over 25 fires per 100000 EV cars sold
@@Sp_75-76 The 1500 ICE fires could include minor fuel or electrical fires, or maybe it includes all the vehicles that are getting torched in France, Sweden, etc. There are many ways to manipulate figures without actually telling a lie. I'd rather go with what I'm seeing & hearing than statistics complied groups that may not be impartial.
I confess my Mk2 Astra had a couple of big fires during my ownership (only one of them my fault) but was repaired on both occasions & went on to be sold as a runner. I don't see that happening with an EV.
I can't comment on the aluminium block statement but I doubt engine blocks often get hot enough to catch fire. After all, you can weld the stuff.
Hi Geoff. Back a few years ago when hard wood furniture was all the rage. I Remember them saying that a area the size of Germany was being cut down in Brazil per I bet that was not replanted.
Council were surveying trees in my area, they need to cut down the tall ones so the 5g can keep the surveillance grid (internet of things) functioning reliably. The frequencies need a clear path to us so a lot of the trees are going to cop it.
Finally! Validation Geoff.
Though as this is from MSM I agree with you, questionable motives.
Orwell 1984 that’s the answer
The new factory was announced on the local news last night. It seemed to be a great leap forward. Of course none of the environmental issues were raised. But, the biggest issue was not mentioned at all: namely that they will be too expensive for most people to own. It is about time that car ownership is enshrined as a basic right, just like a bank account. Even the most simplest tasks are dependent on personal transport. I can't think of any aspect of life where freedom of choice in a free market economy is so reduced.
Where in Somerset will it be?
And don’t forget the Goverment subsidy!
Oh well, I guess we’ll no longer need cars once we’ve moved into caves, live on a diet of worms and dung and need permission to travel anywhere outside our village that can’t be reached on foot in under a day. Back to feudal England and serfdom I say. Such progress!
@@robinforrest7680 Mmmm, dung. I know what you mean about villages. 2 busses a day and 6 miles down a single car width lane, or a dual carriage way with no paths. Village life has changed so much, and they only remain viable places to live because of the car.
@@cornishhh Apparently at Puritonn near Bridgewater. 9000 jobs are predicted.
If you think about it, it's even worse than those figures state because a lot of the carbon footprint is up front in the making of the vehicle. Therefore, if you take into account those EVs that are written off long, long before they hit their carbon neutral milestone, you need to add that mileage on to the EVs that are left. Take care, Poo
That applies equally well to ICE vehicles and as EV’s are currently only about 3% of the current UK vehicles there are a lot more ICE vehicle that will apply to
@@Sp_75-76 Ah, but the carbon footprint of ICE is lower to start with so even adding in write off vehicles isn't going to increase things by same percentage of overall production.
There is a very small percentage of cars that are written off before there end of life, and there are some 30 times the number of ICE vehicles on the road is stands to reason EV’s are better for the environment. Sorry about the maths
@@Sp_75-76 But, ICE vehicles don't burst into flame for no reason, if they do catch fire it's generally because someone was doing something stupid.
Years ago I had an Opel Manta GTE.
It split a fuel line, sprayed fuel all over the hot engine and exhaust. (I had driven about 15 miles so it wasn't 'warming up')
What happened?
Except for frost forming on bonnet, absolutely nothing.
New fuel line and good to go for another 3 years when I sold it
@@1crazypj I am not denying the EV’s do very rarely combust, and are then difficult to put out. In your example you were fine but data shows on average 300 ICE vehicles catch fire DAILY in the UK against 0.2 EV’s. Also manufacturers are moving away from lithium batteries into thing like LFP which don’t support thermal runaway, and research is going on into new battery designs all the time. All this hysteria has nothing to do with EV’s it is all to do with you being forced to buy one which by the way I do not believe will happen
Great video and awesome channel! I have also been wondering how mainstream media, especially mainstream car media hasn't had the slightest interest in expressing any kind of critique over EVs. They changed their tone few years ago almost overnight, and now they're praising the EV gospel. I had my wife's car MOTd the other day, and while waiting I was forced to browse through one recent issue of the biggest car magazines in my country, in the editorial the editor praised not only the electrification, but also the car's transformation into smart gadget where the focus shifts from hardware into software. Without a slightest critique. Not the direction I want to see cars heading, but what can we do?
BEV make a great second car for local use, but they will cost at east 50% more than your main car to buy, and lose money a lot faster.
Brand new MG4 fully electric £28k. Brand new mid spec petrol Astra, Focus or Golf £28k Where is the 50% more?
@@Brian-om2hh Now compare a decent quality BEV with other cars.
@@Brian-om2hh Haha, you're not seriously comparing an MG4 to a Golf are you?
nothing from the BBC mind you. They think EVs are marvellous. remember the aim is to make the EVs expensive so we have to share them and then regulate travel.
Why are they only doing this now? Because the agenda was never to get everyone switching to EVs, it was to get rid of ALL vehicles.
"decarbonized steel" so plain old iron then which tends to be much weaker than steel
Steel is a family of iron carbon alloys, decarbonize it and you don't have steel.
This is not the first time I've heard of making steel without carbon, and all I can think whenever I hear this is the person suggesting it (or in this case who wrote the article) has no clue of what steel is.
Your doing a great service Geoff, hope your message gets out to plenty people. The global billionaires running the world are complete nutters, nothing makes sense anymore...
Hey Geoff, in the interests of balance I watched the Fully Charges Show with Robert Llewellyn and Quentin Willson and some other bloke. Whinge? I honestly thought one or other would burst into tears. The whole of the media is against us and it's all rubbish. Well, some of it is and some dubious, but no figures for comparisons. So I suggested they refute the high initial cost and the crap residual value. I now realise as the owner of a 90 year old car and a 27 year old daily driver we are deeply into tree hugging... actually we are planting a number of trees on our land.
Absolutely not connected to EVs Geoff, but I received an email from my Gas/Electric supplier stating that they are "obligated by the Government to install smart meters in their customers homes" I never saw that one coming!
They are obligated by government to meet targets but as yet no legislation requires that you accept one.
Wrong. There is no obligation as yet.
They’ve been hassling us in France for about 5 years to install « Linky » meters of this type. If you are unlucky enough to have a meter in a box outside your house they just do it. I got letters and phone calls repeatedly telling me they had to have access to my property so they could install it. After menacing spurious legal action (strangely they weren’t able to come up with a legal text to support that),they then threatened to charge me if they had to come and read the meter. I reminded them that in my contrat there is already a charge calculated to cover meter reading. In any case they never physically come more than once every 2 years because they either estimate consumption based on previous figures, or they ask ME to read the meter and send the results to them. They seem to have given up, just waiting for the next episode.😂
Just tell them you do not accept their (government initiated) offer and to 'B' Off. They are only obligated to offer you a meter there is currently no legislation that requires you to accept the offer.
Just tell them to bog off
Geoff, you are an asset to your profession. I really enjoy your video's here in Missouri... USA
Wow, thank you so much :)
Soon you’ll be hearing Ads on Tell-lie-vision like “ Have you been miss-sold an EV in the last few years ? No win No fee layers for you are here to help (themselves) make a claim for you 🙈🤣
Are you new to RUclips?
Geoff, Yes plant trees, but not the monoculture pine forests that are pretty much devoid of wildlife
All the while Scotland are tearing down thousands of trees every day to plant more wind turbines. How green is that?
BTW, love your channel, good job 👍
How about the land grabs, tree cutting, and flood producing cement car charge parks, and solar array and wind turbine fields totally depending on weather for our energy? Instead of adding lots of tonnage to vehicles with dangerous batteries, maybe add just a little bit of poundage with better exhaust filters, which I’m sure they can come up with.
Most people don't like to think about the negatives, These are also the people who drive an EV to justify the flying holidays.
Off course a petrol car can be made more efficient and there can be better filtering, but there is no profit in it.
Thank you Geoff, Yes, Falling apart, Well Said and God Bless to you all 👍👍👍👓👓👓. Common sense, Yes!!
Indeed, they probably are heading for 'don't go anywhere because of the climate emergency' angle. But whatever the reason, the timing is good for us as it adds to the weight of the points we've been putting to our local council on EVs!
Spot on video- subscribed and I wish you all the very best in getting this information out to as many people as possible!
I think we all new they weren’t green all along it doesn’t take a genius to work it out
Spot on as why don’t they have a scheme for planting trees.
Is it because ULZEZ and 20mph Zones will make more money?
If the plant trees where are they going to put all the houses they want to build?
@@trolleriffic we might not need so many as the barges are filled back up and sailed back to France.
Cheers Geoff. I buzzed you a mail a week or so ago with the actual CO2 numbers in the atmosphere - and the changes to it we've supposedly made. Give it a read if you get time for some perspective on these 'emissions', and how negligible they really are.....
@geoffbuyscars can you forward it on to me pls! Cheers
@@Successfulgardendesign - I just got your email from your Facebook page messanger - so I'll buzz it over to you as I don't know when Geoff will find the time to find my email 🙂
You mean from 280ppm to 425ppm?
@@Richard482 yeah something like that - the exact numbers vary - but measured in parts per million its bugger all of bugger all!
@@stevehensonuk Not, not really. What's important is the effort something has. Substances don't have to be in big quanties to have big effects.
Great book. Even if we covered the UK in solar panels, we wouldn't have enough juice from the sun anyway.
And you get this information for where?
@@Sp_75-76 The amount of energy from the sun is not enough to power this country per square mile (1kW per sq m) night and day. Don't patronise me with scientists or experts from the news: I'm an engineer
@@Sp_75-76 The numerous research studies on the viability of solar in the UK. Our climate doesn't support the use of 100% renewables since there are long periods in autumn and winter when there is nowhere near enough sunlight to power the nation even with deployment of panels on every bit of green space and rooftop. Not only that but we have long spells in winter during which there isn't enough wind either and since hydro isn't a backup since there aren't enough locations to flood (weirdly enough people don't like being forced out of their houses and farms to have the land flooded), we're in a tricky situation with renewable energy.
There seems to be a lot of misinformation being pushed at the moment, the daily Mail compared a Tesla model Y against a Kia Nero hybrid saying it has 20% more tyre wear, ignoring the fact that it has 200bhp more, also forgetting to mention most EVs create over 90% less brake dust because of regen braking. Whilst I agree some EVs are ridiculously heavy, mainly the German monstrosities with there huge 100 plus kWh batteries to make up for there embarrassing efficiency, there are plenty of sensible options that whey about as much as a typical bmw 3 series & won’t rip up the roads.
I'm surprised that the Daily Fail actually managed to mention Tesla. In the article that found it's way into my Google feed today, it mentioned that Audi Q8 eTron and Mercedes EQS dominate the SUV EV sales while not a single mention of the actual best selling EV in that segment. No Tesla advertising revnue, no mention.
Any bollocks article as long as it appeals to the readership to create some kind of hate for something imaginary, that's their M.O.
The scary part is that we cannot plant ENOUGH trees to make a difference. I totally agree with you and your clips. Spot on. Unfortunately, planting trees is not going to save humanity. Please, plant trees because they are cool, but humans need to research reducing CO2 through scientific means. Not just planting trees and not by reducing the human population by starvation and freezing with energy reductions.
The brand new cars of today are the used cars of tomorrow, so assuming we aren't locked in our pods eating bugs in 10 years time , the cars that are on the dealership forecourts today are the cars a lot of us are going to be buying in the future. Honda and Toyota do not list one regular petrol or diesel car (with the exception of the Landcruiser or Type R) on their website. So assuming that the hybrid and electric models that they have for sale right now haven't been sent to landfill or recycled into cheap Chinese junk destined to end up in landfill a few years later, due them being no longer economical to repair thanks to the exorbitant cost of battery replacement, in the not too distant future there will be no motorised personal transport for the average guy in the street.
The cost of used petrol and diesel cars will sky rocket, any old petrol or diesel car found in a field or a barn will be classed as a 'barn find' and people will be patching together rusty old pieces of junk just so people like nurses, teachers and carers can do their jobs without having to take out crippling loans or lease deals just so they can get to work.
I'm not going to be driving a crappy EV in a decades times. Not happening..You can get around this totalitarianism...
A brilliant focussed and clear synopsis. Well done Geoff.
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Read this this morning. I hope it's picked up by more of the press! A great video as always.
Yeah ill admit its very short sighted the way they are trying to push EVs in the way they are. They are not as green as people say they are.
But battery tech is always improving and ive driven the i pace and solely regarding driving experience, its a cracking car. Furthermore the UKs energy mix hardly relies on coal anymore (think there is 1 coal station in the country now).
Your right we need to push tree planting but ultimately then should we really be relying on the oil industry because I bet thats one of the most polluting of them all??
As a retired petrol station manager. A part from everything else, what about the tanker drivers, forecourt cashiers and associated staff all being put out of work?
What about all those horse feed sellers and farriers the fuel retailer put out of work...life moves on.
Your comment demonstrates that electric vehicles are a more efficient and cleaner way of living. We don’t need tankers clogging up our roads and spreading pollution. We have high immigration because we have too many jobs too fill.
Not to mention the huge number of people who work as ICE car mechanics …
What about all of the people being ripped off paying for overpriced fuel at said forecourts?
Really? OMG! Let’s preserve 10 jobs while destroying the planet 😂. Did it not occur to you that those 10 jobs would be created elsewhere? 😂😂😂😂
Skoda do 30k a year lease upto 4 years
Ford do 24k upto 4 years
Hyundai do 30k
Found plenty of lease companies for tesla doing 30k and one for 45k.. scary😮
Audi do 30k.
Seriously, that's with 2 minutes of going to reach manufacturers website!😢😢
These EVs -when they catch fire it’s horrifying!
Yes, just as horrifying as the 160'000 ICE cars which catch fire in the US each year......
You are spot on, look at the rain forist and all the other trees headges been cut down since the 1980's , that is why we have high Carbon!
Nice day of Bentleys there Geoff.
Assumes that at the end of the 3 year lease period the car ceases to exist?
Um ... no.
Also: the grid gets better every day, the environmental impact of fossil fuels (especially extraction) only gets worse.
WEF really didn't do their homework on this. Put them in the corner with a dunce's cap
They really don't give a sh!t about the real environment. This is all a drive the sheep into the pen of comply so they can benefit.
Then to the guillotine.
I completely agree, plant more trees, the giant redwood trees grew so big because they were massive carbon capture devices.
Puts tinfoil hat on.. not to mention those who have invested in the materials used to make EVs
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You think Petrol companies won't do everything in their power to spread misinformation about EV cars? I can guarantee Daily Mail will have to amend the article featured in Geoffs video due to misinformation. Not that DM will care, they have already spread their misinformation and the dafties just suck it up so for them that is a win. No one reads the amended articles, damage has already be done.
The Guardian had to do the same for Rowan Atkinsons bullshittery article the other week.
Aluminium foil
Also they never mention the fact that when someone gets an EV Car. They are usually scraping a perfectly usable ICE Car that has many miles left before it is Knackered. So if replace something that dose not need replacing = more carbon. Or if the ICE car are not scrapped they are shipped off cheap to other parts of the world. So now we have two cars in the world instead of one.
Unbelievable. How about the ICE drivers that scrap a perfectly good ICE car, so they can get a new model. More to the point, who scraps a perfectly good car?
Who are these strangers aka the government to determine what we can drive? If we want to drive petrol we will drive them. Again they want to have a control over the public and whilst doing that, why not milk us dry too. I tend to have a discussion with a few daily about how EVs are not clean and it’s all fed in the media but they won’t have any of that, they will stick by what they have been told or maybe it’s purely because they need to justify why they own an EV. Great video Geoff, keep these EV facts coming as it will hopefully educate many who think otherwise.
there is no argument the EV's are cleaner then ICE cars, it is just about the time to brake even. and once the car has reached this point every mile driven therafter will not add to the polution situation. Every week, more and more green energy is coming on line, so in 10 years time it will be a whole different situation, but ICE cars will still be pushing outexhaust fumes, which is why the MOT test includes an emissions test.
Geoff, i went to a school called woodlands fields high school years ago ,The head mistress was called tereasa green ,and the deputy head was called forest Hump .And the dinner lady was called daisy flower . And our Caretaker was called woody stumpole.True .
What about damage to the ozone layer that was about 20 years ago they shut up about that.
Oh you don't know about that scam...
That story is todays chip paper LOL
The Montreal Protocol.
Bit of research will answer your question
Key facts
A significant reduction in the consumption of ozone-depleting substances (ODS) has been achieved globally since 1986. This reduction has largely been driven by the 1987 United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) Montreal Protocol.
The largest historical extent of the ozone hole - 28.4 million km² - occurred in September 2000. This area is equivalent to almost seven times the territory of the EU.
In late September 2022, the Antarctic ozone hole reached its maximum area of 24.5 million km².
Up until early November 2022, the Antarctic ozone hole has been similarly large and long-lasting to the ones recorded in 2021 and 2020.
Depletion of stratospheric ozone occurs over both hemispheres of the Earth. However, this phenomenon is more pronounced in the Southern Hemisphere (Antarctica) than in the Northern Hemisphere (Arctic). This is the case because the formation of the ozone hole is directly linked to the stratosphere's temperature. Once temperatures drop below -78°C, polar stratospheric clouds tend to form, which exacerbate ozone depletion. In the Antarctic, long presence of low temperatures in the stratosphere is stimulating their formation, whereas the Arctic is characterised by larger year-to-year meteorological variability.
Generally, the ozone hole is defined as the area in which ozone column values amount to 220 Dobson Units (DU) or less, marked by the thick contour line and represented in blue colours in Figure 1. This is only apparent in the Southern Hemisphere. Here, the largest historical extent of the ozone hole 28.4 million km² (Figures 1 and 2) occurred in September 2000. This area is equivalent to more than six times the territory of the EU.
In Scotland they cut down a huge area of tall trees to put wind turbines in their place. Because you know, we need to care about the environment, or something.
what happened to the carbon stored in the wood I wonder? It should've been buried, but then digging up the soil releases a lot of carbon.
The problem is we have forgotten the story of the King;s magic suit of clothes. Marketing are designing the cars, people are seeing what mdia is telling them, hense people buy EV;s.
Now 72, but some of the happiest work days of my life was building Rolls Royce and Bentley cars at Mulliner Park Wards @ Hythe Road Harlesden. Not a robot in sight.
I agree with you 100%
Blimey now you mention it I remember the 'Plant a tree in '73' slogan - so catchy 👍
The Anti BEV (battery electric vehicle) by the likes of the Mail is simply down to the fact the BEV companies may not advertising with them anymore. (cynical view)
Geoff, any chance of MP in your future? Your country needs you!
Flat cap, jumper, sat in a Bentley, you look like a perfect fifties film bad lad 😂
I remember at school going around planting trees-
‘Plant a tree in ‘73 ‘ was the slogan, and ‘ Plant some more in ‘74’
Happy days!