Putting aside the culpability of Kohberger, personally, this crime is absolutely deserving of the DP. Whomever committed this crime, if convicted, should absolutely be potentially sentenced to it. To break into someone’s home while they’re asleep and take their lives in cold blood? I can’t see how that wouldn’t fall within the guidelines of capital punishment. Maybe I’ve missed something? But, that’s my opinion.
Young college students coming & going - I’m guessing the door was unlocked - not saying he had any rite to end 4 lives! My question to Peter - what is the blood evidence Incriminating him? Other than the car on area cameras? I agree when convicted-thru evidence in a trail - when u kill 4 people DP on the table!
If you are in a state with the death penalty and the crime fits the parameters then it is what it is. I am glad to see the judge following the law and not trying to legislate from the bench. This is a trial, not a law school debate or Senate committee hearing.
True, but sadly politics stopped being about what's good for its citizens and became about stopping the opposite side of every issue at all costs. Even when legislators do agree, it doesn't seem that they have the power to stop it. Just go look at Texas where the state government took the desperate action of issuing a subpoena to Robert Roberson in order to halt his execution while they investigate serious concerns about the safety of his conviction. The Supreme Court then said the government has no right to do that. So if Judges shouldn't legislate from the bench, but the legislators have no power to intercede when they're concerned someone innocent may be executed, who prevents injustice? I'm afraid that I don't understand "it is what it is" in situations such as that.
I agree with your opinion about the DP for THIS case! I believe the Defense regrets getting this Judge. I think they counted on Judge Judge following them to Boise! Be careful what you wish (argue) for...
huh ??? it's ATs job to challenge everything. Even Judge Judge wouldn't have taken off the DP. It's such an ovbious decision and definitely a DP crime.
I'm so happy with this judge , so far! He seems to be a no nonsense judge. I'm so sick of this defense team, they just keep taking this case off track...🫣. He has had them arguing about anything and everything but this case! Come on 2 years now! Sorry , I think he thought he had the perfect murder. Pissed that he got caught! Just my opinion.
@@robbiepompa8725exactly my thoughts!!!! They keep delaying everything!! Have you seen the latest motions on trying to block what he ordered from Amazon? And the motion to not allow the statements he made to police while being taken into custody?!! Oh and the motion to block whatever was found at his parents bc “guests of the house” have certain rights and they didn’t knock?! Etc etc…I understand they’re doing their job but my gosh!! She’s going so hard after every single thing which I understand her job is to defend but it is a lot!!! Very frustrating!
Usually the Judge follows the case, it’s the jury pool at issue. I personally had no problem with Judge Judge, I believe he was just being abundantly cautious because there will be an appeal. This Judge is more experienced in big cases like this so he can handle the defense better and move faster. His case law citations are amazing.
I believe the DP is appropriate in this case. Thank you for your excellent and unbiased opinions in this case! Have a wonderful break playing golf! You deserve it! ❤❤
That's my issue with the DP. Why is m-rder okay in some situations and not others? It's basically telling the victim's loved one "well that victim didn't matter enough to give the DP, but this other victim's killer is worth it"
u cant only be against the death penalty most of the time. unless ur just saying the judge followed the law. in which case it’d probably be better to say you think the death penalty is legally applicable in this case
I won't say Kohberger deserves the DP, because the trial has not yet begun. But, for this heinous crime and crimes like it, absolutely believe the DP is appropriate for any person found guilty beyond a shadow of doubt.
There are heinous crimes that call for the death penalty. Slaughtering 4 innocent college students who were in no way able to protect themselves….qualifies. If BK is convicted, he knew Idaho would hold him accountable for this act. If I committed such a horrible act, took 4 innocent people’s lives, and terrible suffering to surviving family members why should I get to live? I forfeited my rights to live by taking away all 4 victims rights to live their lives.
I’m confused. You think they are giving people the penalty because they feel like it.? You find it offensive that people think they can end someone’s life just because they feel like it.? Isn’t that what Bryan did (you may not feel he did it but I do and I’m sticking to it)? Isn’t that what murderers do.? End people’s life because they feel like it.? They deserve the same treatment because this world needs less evil.
@@Jazlin92665I think he is guilty and he should be fully punished. I just think the sitting on death row for twenty years is much easier than being in general population for twenty years. I formed my opinion listening to another prisoner who asked for the death penalty because life was easier for him to be celled in a death row part of the prison. The man was all about himself and wanted what was best for him. I wanted him to suffer and not get the death penalty.
Death penalty is a tough one. Something I struggle with and something my mind flip flops on. Based on the latter, it’s probably safer not to employ the death penalty. But DAMN sone people seem to go out of their way to deserve it.
Recovering alcoholic here, 14 years, and Peter,I so admire your principles as it comes to redemption. When I got finished with treatment and met with my sponsor I had 191 amends to make to family, friends, loved ones and even people I didn’t know very well. Yes, we are promised GRACE, depending on your interpretation of the Word but regardless of faith I believe even non-believers should enjoy the opportunity grace & redemption offer. They free the spirit of the soul, they make for a better world. Even if your remarks weren’t necessarily in regard to those of us who are addicts, the ability to forgive and the power redemption of the spirit can bring make this a better place. Well done.
Thank you so very much for all your willingness to share your professional expertise as well as your significant understanding of complex moral issues. I am currently 74 years old. Throughout my lifetime, I have never supported the death penalty; this was largely based on racism and many people being unjustly framed for crimes. Technology has helped in this arena along with huge effort from groups such as the Innocents Project, etc. When I learned of the heinous crime of the murder of four college students in Moscow, Idaho, I was shocked beyond belief. Personally terrorized is more like it, even though I am no where near Idaho. As I watched things unfold on the media, my intuition kept screaming that Kohberger had done it. My rational mind kept trying to find some balance; meaning, he’s innocent until proven guilty but it never seemed to work. Once I was grounded in the case, I stepped back from it. With the case moving to a new venue and the Defense requesting that the death penalty be dropped, I heard counsel say that the death penalty “is cruel and inhumane” for prisoners on death row. I agree; however, what is cruel and inhumane is the slaughter of four young people in the middle of the night. There’s no way around it not being cruel and inhumane. Other than putting the convicted person to death immediately after being found guilty, there is no other way to compromise. I never thought I would arrive at this decision but after a long life filled with many hills and valleys, it’s where I stand with this vicious and obscene case.
Great interactions and interview questions. This is a good showcase of your industry knowledge too. I'm always happy to see a new video of yours in my feed.
First: Thank you, Peter, for taking a break from your "me" time to make this video to share the information and legality of the motions, along with your insights and perspectives with us. Second: Thanks, John and Kelsey, as always, for making all these videos and lives happen. Just because you aren't on the "forefront" of the screen, we know you are there and are much appreciated! Third: Agreed -- the law being the law as it is stated, then yes, the punishment does fit the crime (if found guilty). Like Peter said, like it or not, it is the court's job to uphold the law. It's our responsibility as American citizens to do our civil duty to research, vote, contact our representatives/legislators in pursuit for the laws we'd like seen or not seen -- whether it be new laws or old laws changed/removed. Fourth: This does make me think of one question to ask, please, if you are able to answer Peter. A few years ago, a lead attorney in Utah County decided he would no longer seek the DP on any of his/the county's cases. Does that then go against the legislative laws of the state of Utah? Are individual prosecuting attorneys legally able to make such blanket decisions/actions such as that for all current and new trials? Fifth: I am willing to share my beliefs/thoughts regarding the DP when asked, but it is not something I care to debate with others since it is such a controversial and personal subject matter. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions and belief systems. Since Peter inquired, with the guidelines that it be done in a civil and respectful manner to all, this has been my thought process over the years... I am much like Peter in that I have gone back and forth, wishy washy, on the whole DP thing during my life. My younger days, I was definitely pro-DP. (Eye for an eye.) Then it did become a thing of where it would just make my heart cringe, not only for the perpetrator, but also for the individual(s) that had to perform the execution. (Two wrongs don't make a right.) Then it became something that, as a tax-payer, it costs more money for all the years of appeal after appeal than it would if just sentenced to life without parole. I also began to believe that for some individuals it was actually more of a torturous punishment for them to know they'd have to live the rest of their life confined within the walls of prison without ever seeing "the light of day" again. In other words, receiving the death penalty actually seems to be more humane for the convicted criminal that performed such atrocious acts. (They're able to simply end their own mental and physical misery/anguish of having to constantly think, day in and day out, about the harm and pain they've caused to so many people/victims.) Then along came Chad Daybell/Lori Vallow just recently. There was such an internal feeling of relief for me (such as many others, I am sure) when Daybell was found guilty and sentenced to the DP. Granted, this case hits very close to home and there are many weaves of tangled webs that aren't necessarily seen from a purely legal standpoint. Most of us are okay without Lori receiving the DP in Idaho (regardless of the legal reasons) simply because we want her to face the court in Arizona to be tried and held accountable for the killing of Charles Vallow. Charles deserves justice, as well. Sixth: The end. (Apologizes for such a long novel of a comment.)
Outstanding analysis. Amazingly it has been 2 years since the crime yet seems like only yesterday. Ive resubscribed to you again because the case is moving forward albeit at a snails pace. The snails pace must be hurting the families: all the families: even Kohbergers.
My Brother: Death Penalty Cases ALWAYS go “At A Snail’s Pace,” and they ALWAYS KNEW The State was going to GO FOR THE DEATH PENALTY. Therefore, it’s BAKED IN THE CAKE that it was going to go At A Snail’s Pace. I remember, as soon as he was ARRESTED, they ALWAYS SAID: “Idaho is A Death Penalty State.” It’s OBVIOUS they would go for it. They made that CLEAR from Day One. There was ZERO DOUBT. ZERO.
Peter…am SO appreciative of you sharing and discussing this with us. I have very clear views re the DP (which I’ve messaged you about before!) but it was illuminating to hear you speak about the legal aspect IF a State employs the DP. From a legal perspective I understand now. Thanking you and wishing you a super golf time!🙏😊
It is one thing to give the DP to someone you caught red handed. It is another to give it to someone where all they have is circumstantial evidence. If we find out that the latter is true in this case, then I hope the DP can be withdrawn before sentencing. IMO too many jurors have gotten it wrong lately.
I actually live in Idaho and live where the trail will take place. I am a believer if there is compelling evidence and NO chance a person is INNOCIENT then I agree with the death penalty. With the said it would be very difficult being on that jury! As we all are aware the justice system will have many appeals that will go before an appellate court.
unfortunately very few cases fit in the no chance a person is innocent category. Every wrongful conviction resulted from a trial that a jury felt contained compelling evidence, and we've all seen courts exclude compelling evidence that would likely have changed a juror's mind. I don't know, with appeals being such a long, difficult, and expensive uphill battle, a life is riding on how "honourable" the honourable judge really is. That's where I get hung up. I do appreciate seeing everyone's opinion on this though.
@@julie5845I think that means like DNA evidence & security footage or other electronic evidence showing the person was at the location 100% guilty does exist. The murder of Moriah Wilson was pretty clear cut, it happened in Texas, but a woman committed the murder so she was given 90 years.
@@gothgammy666touch DNA is so different than other types of DNA. At this time, there is no video evidence of him being at the crime scene. I think there is a lot more to this cart than the public has seen.
My thoughts on considering the death penalty are basically twofold. Is there overwhelming evidence? Absolutely no possibility of another person committing whatever crime? Higher bar than beyond a reasonable doubt to me, personally. And then second, reform. Are they a sociopath/psychopath? Are they a serial criminal? Both would have to be true for me to even consider DP. And even then every case is situational, as it always should be.
I agree. Couldn't think of anything worse than having yr freedom taken away, being locked in and with the knowledge never going out ever again. What's the point staying alive under such conditions? I have always wonder how those lifetime sentenced could sit there day in and day out (as in staying alive). DP is certainly an easy way out. I guess the only thing would be if there was a glimpse of hope getting released, but if he will be convicted, he won't even have that little glimpse of hope. So, if considered guilty, I'd say, let him rot in prison.
No I would hate to see a liberal politician, bring this case forward or for someone to find a technical trial missteps allow this one to get free. My hope, is to have coleburger dispatched as he did them youngster college kids
Also I'm not sure I want government, who makes mistakes, putting people down who may be innocent. If there was a way to make everyone who had to do with an innocent person being given the DP responsible then I'd reconsider it. By that I mean the investigating cops, prosecutors, judge and maybe even jurors are held accountable then I'd reconsider it.
I've followed and researched this case from day 1..I've accumulated thousands of articles, photos and Reddit posts. As much as I have real doubts about BK's guilt, the case is worthy of the DP.
He could have stayed in Pullman, WA at WSU. But he decided to drive over to the University of Idaho. That’s 9 miles and a world apart n terms of the death penalty. To quote the deputy who made a speeding stop on my teenage sister and her boyfriend…. “You’re in Idaho now, boy. This is a progressive state.”
Law student here (2L). I’m so torn on the death penalty. On one hand we see so many botched investigations & wrongful convictions that makes me think how could I support the death penalty. On the other hand, I see a case like Kohberger and all I can think is let him fry. I acknowledge the confliction in my thoughts.
I can understand your view, my view is somewhat different. Say you have person who is a murder. Is it more just to have them sit in jail for forty plus years, or execute the person now? If I was that person, I want it ended now, a jail cell for forty years or more seems cruel to me.
A legal system’s strength lies in its connection to the people it governs. Jurors, as individuals tasked with interpreting justice, rarely limit themselves to the letter of the law; their decisions often reflect their personal sense of morality and fairness. This is clear from your own experience, Peter, where despite strong cases, juries routinely rejected marijuana convictions because they could not reconcile the law with their values. When the public refuses to support a law, no amount of legal precision can force its relevance. Even judicial verdicts, which rely on the authority of judges rather than juries, are shaped by the broader social landscape. Public opinion, fluid and ever-changing, exerts influence, often redefining how cases are perceived over time. The Menendez brothers’ verdicts, for instance, illustrate how societal shifts can reshape legal outcomes long after the decisions are made. Ultimately, the law is not a self-sustaining entity-it is a tool meant to reflect and uphold the principles of the people. When it strays too far from their collective values, it risks becoming obsolete.
I like how you explained how you feel about redemption- that tells me your a good man, not that I ever thought you weren't! I have issues with the death penalty but that's me... I feel it's up to God ❤ Fourrrrrr 😊
It's interesting because we just saw the Daybell trial and sentencing as they went through the processes for applying a death penalty, so we have a template or comparison,
The 'redemption' argument is always so bad, no one really believes that. The real issue is that the state often gets it wrong, and innocent people are convicted all the time.
It just blows my mind, as a Brit living in Australia, that you’re discussing ‘executing’ someone. I guess it just shows mass justification and hypnosis. Wild. But I do love your coverage of cases! ‘Merica is an interesting Petri dish to look at for the rest of the world.
I don’t support the death penalty…however in the state of Idaho it IS the law…so this case is eligible for the death penalty based on the CURRENT LAW PERIOD! So is the legislature supposed to change the law JUST for THIS one MAN? The absolute HUBRIS of this dude! The LEGAL STANDARD for determining the aggravating circumstances do not change just because HE wants it to change! Trifurcating the penalty just for Bryan Kohberhger even though it is not the LAW is just asinine! THIS more than almost anything makes me feel he’s guilty. I must add Bryan may be young but if he’s found guilty he should NEVER be released from prison. His crime was extremely heinous. If they are considering the death penalty then this crime was so serious the person who committed should never be allowed in society again.
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Thanks for this update on Judge Hippler's latest ruling. Could it be AT never thought there was any chance the DP could be removed in a mass murder trial, but felt compelled to try as best she could? And was it a necessary step to get to her main one? What is puzzling for me is if the prosecutor is continuing to withhold his evidence from the defense, for whatever reasons (say, FBI has lost incriminating facts, testing of evidence delayed, etc ), and the defense has to keep asking for more time in waiting to receive that, then once there is one huge pile of evidence given, requiring additional time, then another arrives before completing the review of that first one, which was presented in a mishmash and totally disorganized, disconnected jumble, and then the 2nd enormous package of "evidence" arrives in the same state also so confusing and disorganized, and incoherent whereby the prosecutor himself is unable to say how much of that is redundant or if it is (additional) new and not included in the 1st batch, how can there NOT be a "speedy trial" waiver from the defense? Is it normal for the prosecutor to present to the defense all, or most of the inculpitory evidence against their client in this way, and still leaving out crucial parts of it, too? Was there intent to make this very professional, detail oriented female defense attorney seem incompetent and annoyingly complaining to 2 judges because of slipshod, incomplete work and an inordinate amount of jumbled up incriminating evidence impossible to get through in the time allowed? That's what it looks like to me. It appears that AT, after sorting through less than just half of it, has concluded not only is her client innocent, but that some of the evidence has been illegally obtained to the point all of it was, or fabricated/adjusted to fit what actual little they could find against her client, needing right up front a very damaging smear/false innuendo campaign to assist it, (and an attempt to stop/eliminate surveys revealing them), and meaning ONLY 1 thing - an entirely contrived case and a fraud, on him, the public and the victims and their families. Did I misunderstand she wants all those gigabytes of evidence tossed? Is this usual or a normal attempt in DP cases, has AT done this before? Has she EVER come out and have her team as well as herself publicly announce and vehemently maintain more than once they are committed to being on the public record firmly believing BK is completely innocent of these DP charges? I see Judge Hippler not taking kindly to this potentially intimidating stance, as unimportant or irrelevant as so many think that is, and long before arriving in his bailiwick. (Did anyone notice a flicker of a smile (or was it a grimace?) in reminding AT a firing squad situation was being composed as she was speaking about capital punishment?)
People always say "wait for the evidence, there's more" but if they had more evidence besides the Touch DNA it would have been listed in the warrant. What we do know is if the case is based solely on Touch DNA, then the DP will be overturned on appeal and BK will be freed on appeal. Precedent in other states says Touch DNA can't be used as the sole principal evidence in a conviction because of it's nature.
Agree most points,queries..as AT was specifically appointed because of her DP qualification,I'm sure she understands judicial system and motions to take DP off.She may be sowing seeds for Motions to come,that are more beneficial to Defense @Trial.??
why is this being discussed before the trial? It sounds like there is a presumption of guilt until proven otherwise and so it is necessary to consider whether the dp should be considered. This is so weird. There is enough time to debate the sentencing post trial after he has been declared as guilty.
My problem with your redemption thought is if he’s convicted he’s never sniffing freedom. As it looks right now it doesn’t matter how young he is he killed 4 people in what looks like a well planned premeditated attack.
Agreed with your viewpoint. Here in NY with Rex H, this serial killer, he can't get the death penalty as I understand it. His victims are in different states but I don't know who or where his case will be. But in general, death penalty is hard for me to be strongly convicted to.
All of Heuermann's charges are in a New York jurisdiction. The relevant crimes are believed to have occurred in that jurisdiction. The New York state legislature abolished the death penalty in their state in 2004. To date, he has not been charged in a state other than New York.
Thus far the family’s of the victims haven’t received a whiff of justice and BK has a team of stall tactic experts paid handsomely by everybody but him. Let’s face it .. if he were innocent they would have wanted a speedy trial so he would be a free man, instead of exploring every random loophole known to man, not defending his innocence but merely the means of the state’s method to procure evidence. I am a pacifist vegan but absolutely believe in the DP in obvious cases like this. Why should he, if convicted, or any cold blooded killer deserve a chance at redemption , when they made a decision to end another’s opportunity to simply draw breath. Opponents of the DP I simply ask the question.. “ what if it had been your family member/s slaughtered ?” .. hesitation.
Was just thinking about how the companies that produce the drugs and chemicals that are used in lethal injection executions, OBJECT to there use and legally withhold the cocktail of drugs like phenobarbital and others from those officials associated with death row because they don't want the company to be associated death sentences. Now take another company providing the method of execution to the state of Idaho, wonder if there will be anti-death penalty advocates trying to protest and pressure ammo producing companies because of that company (let's say Remington Hypothetically) wonder if felt pressure, would they try to refuse the sale and ban the use of there brand ammo in death penalty executions ... Just a thought
I'm Swedish and live in Sweden and we don't have the death penalty. I'm torn. I find it offensive when people decide that it's their right to end other people's lives just because they feel like it. People that have done nothing wrong other than exist. In Brian Kohberger's case it feels like he wanted to do an experiment and that makes it even worse. I wouldn't lose sleep over him being executed but there's something about the death penalty, the procedure, that makes it so absurd "Ok, on Monday at 6 pm we're gonna strap you to a bed and kill you, but we'll make sure that you're healthy before we do it."
@@Cece-dad17yeeeeaaa Bryan just had the same car as the perp, looked like the perp, stole Bryan’s phone, and carried Bryan’s DNA into the victims home. Geeee how unlucky Bryan is. NOT!!
@@Cece-dad17 The prosecution has been clear that there was no 'stalking'. Although to be clear stalking does have a specific legal definition, which is not necessarily synonymous with his activities specified in the PCA.
Even if you are a young person, once you have set out to plan and go through with these gruesome murders of four other young people, protection of society and not redemption is more of a concern to me.
Hi Peter, thank you for your honest opinion. I am not anti death penalty, but there has been a rash of people who are presumed innocent put to death lately. Ivan Cantu, Marcellus Williams, and soon Robert Roberson. Would you be able to shine a light on the appeal process at this level and talk about why these types of cases wouldn't be granted. Is it political or the law that failed these individuals.
I think any time the prosecution has failed to give all their discovery to the defense before the time frame for a speedy trial. Either they should not be allowed to use any evidence/testimony they didn't turn over (sucks to be the prosecution in that case), or if the defense waives speedy trial because they are waiting then it should be treated as if they have not waived speedy trial for motions such as this. Prosecution needs some penalties for screwing around and playing games.
I served on a jury for a murder trial two years ago, in Colorado. I have never been more focused in my life as I was for those two and a half weeks. Thankfully in Colorado the judge decides the sentence. We were asked to weigh all of the evidence, try to decide who among the many witnesses was credible, and to come to a decision as to guilty or not guilty on six different counts. We took it VERY seriously and spent three and a half days deliberating. At one point I thought we'd be a hung jury on at least three of the counts. But we ultimately had consensus. I am not sure how it would have evolved if we ALSO had to decide the sentence for the defendant. I'm so grateful that this was not my job.
My problem with the dp is the fact that innocent people have been put to death. I can't imagine what that must feel like. You know you didn't commit the crime, yet your life will be taken away... I do not believe one person was capable of committing this crime in the time allotted by the prosecution.
Innocent people put to death? That doesn't happen.. innocent people doing time, but not death. And there aren't very many innocent people in prison, these days. Remember, every murderer thinks he is innocent.
@@outoftime7740 Doesn't happen? Yeah fucking right. You can lie to yourself to help yourself sleep at night all you want, but keep that kind of bullshit to yourself please.
Even if the parameters of the crime warrant DP and the judge determines it is an appropriate sentence in the event of a guilty verdict, can't the jury reject it and vote for a life sentence? This is what happened during the sentencing phase of the Susan Smith trial in 1995.
I’ve heard it argued that the worst penalty (DP) actually shows the ultimate regard for the value of human life. The penalty is so great because of the very high value of life.
I agree with your opinion Peter on this case. It just needs to get moving... Its like the defense attorney is stalling this out. Everything but the kitchen sink, so to say! It's ridiculous!
One could appropriately assume someone’s personal opinion on the DP would greatly have an influence on if they personally side with the outcome of a motion.
I’m so torn on this subject. I live n California, where we have the DP, but it’s on hold. In California, it costs us so much money to leave someone on death row, and the likelihood of that death penalty being carried out is slim to none. As a result of that, I’m kind of anti-death penalty, for California. Because we’re spending all of this money, but to know ultimate end.
I am interested in this case, and I’m wondering where the verdict is going to lye because there was minimal DNA found at the crime scene like a fingerprint on a knife sheath and what appears to be a similar or the same car on the camera. My question is still are they going to question the survivors at the trial or are they going to get a dismissed? I’m also wondering if this will be an open to public case or is this gonna be more of a non public case because of the publicity around this case. Also, I think it’s going to be very hard to prove the defense since the roommates that survived didn’t call the police until 8 hours later but decided to call friends instead who came over to the house and some said they went into the house looking for survivors, which messed up DNA additionally. I see too many flaws and too many mess up with people being in and out of that house ripping that house apart and demolishing it. This entire case reminds me of JonBennett Ramsey.
This is one thing i dont understand about the law sometimes. Aggrevating factors, yes i hear what is said. But how do u tell a family whose child was "just" shot is not as bad as someone who was stabbed.
I would love to know your thoughts on this. For the sake of a conviction, I kind of wish the prosecution reduces this to life without parole because that is actually also a death penalty sentence where Kohberger will die in in prison and I feel it reduces the pressure on the jury where they dont have to feel they are responsible for Kohberger’s death and thus being more critical on a conviction choice. I wish trials would be about guilty or not and then after a judge can decide on a death penalty or not taking that burden off a jury. Or is this already the case where the penalty is 100% the judge's choice?
I don’t think it will put much pressure on the jury as they will be picking a jury who is ok with having to give someone the death penalty. I’m looking at it as Bryan is scared to get the death penalty and his public defender is trying to have it removed for him. Since he’s rather get life… I would t give that too him cause that’s the easier sentence in his eyes. I think it is too. People doing long sentences, end up adjusting.
@@Jazlin92665 Thanks. What I find interesting is when the defense attorney Ann Taylor was pushing for the removal of the death penalty I wonder if that would have removed her as well because the only reason she is assigned to this case form the DA's office is that she is one of the few or possibly the only ADA in The County that Moscow ID is in who has death penalty experience (or certification if there is such as thing). She is making 2X her normal salary because it’s a death penalty case.
@@TT41401 you’re right.. she is making a lot of money off of this case. I didn’t think of her being off the case if the death penalty got taken off. Could also be why she wants it removed. Maybe the case is too big for her. Maybe she’s losing faith. She might be looking for a way out. Maybe not though. She does seem like she’s doing any and everything to save her client so she might really be invested. Who knows..
@@Jazlin92665There is an easy answer to removing the death penalty and that’s to negotiate a life without parole sentence by confessing. However, I think she sees this as her ticket to being a high paid defense lawyer. She has proved competence so far, but the trial has not begun. She has zero to work with because her client is guilty and I wish she would just do the right thing and plead this to life, but I have a feeling her client who is not even paying for her services is either to dumb or to arrogant or both and won’t let her do what she knows she should do and she may not want to do that herself for her own reasons. She is IMO taking advantage of the judicial system with all the motions and nonsense.
Putting aside the culpability of Kohberger, personally, this crime is absolutely deserving of the DP. Whomever committed this crime, if convicted, should absolutely be potentially sentenced to it. To break into someone’s home while they’re asleep and take their lives in cold blood? I can’t see how that wouldn’t fall within the guidelines of capital punishment. Maybe I’ve missed something? But, that’s my opinion.
I agree
I agree in this case, but I’m cautious about the use of the death penalty.
Exactly
Young college students coming & going - I’m guessing the door was unlocked - not saying he had any rite to end 4 lives!
My question to Peter - what is the blood evidence Incriminating him? Other than the car on area cameras?
I agree when convicted-thru evidence in a trail - when u kill 4 people DP on the table!
You said this perfectly!! I just hope they have some concrete evidence to get the right person.
If you are in a state with the death penalty and the crime fits the parameters then it is what it is.
I am glad to see the judge following the law and not trying to legislate from the bench. This is a trial, not a law school debate or Senate committee hearing.
Well said. 💯
True, but sadly politics stopped being about what's good for its citizens and became about stopping the opposite side of every issue at all costs. Even when legislators do agree, it doesn't seem that they have the power to stop it. Just go look at Texas where the state government took the desperate action of issuing a subpoena to Robert Roberson in order to halt his execution while they investigate serious concerns about the safety of his conviction. The Supreme Court then said the government has no right to do that. So if Judges shouldn't legislate from the bench, but the legislators have no power to intercede when they're concerned someone innocent may be executed, who prevents injustice? I'm afraid that I don't understand "it is what it is" in situations such as that.
With all of her grandstanding, I see her, throwing her hat in the political ring. Soon.
Like he didn’t know Idaho has the death penalty. Perhaps he should have picked victims in Washington state instead of whinging now.
@@gothgammy666i feel u but font forget right now he is innocent (just like idaho means he can get the death penalty)
I agree with your opinion about the DP for THIS case! I believe the Defense regrets getting this Judge. I think they counted on Judge Judge following them to Boise! Be careful what you wish (argue) for...
huh ??? it's ATs job to challenge everything. Even Judge Judge wouldn't have taken off the DP. It's such an ovbious decision and definitely a DP crime.
I'm so happy with this judge , so far! He seems to be a no nonsense judge. I'm so sick of this defense team, they just keep taking this case off track...🫣. He has had them arguing about anything and everything but this case! Come on 2 years now! Sorry , I think he thought he had
the perfect murder. Pissed that he got caught! Just my opinion.
@@robbiepompa8725exactly my thoughts!!!! They keep delaying everything!! Have you seen the latest motions on trying to block what he ordered from Amazon? And the motion to not allow the statements he made to police while being taken into custody?!! Oh and the motion to block whatever was found at his parents bc “guests of the house” have certain rights and they didn’t knock?! Etc etc…I understand they’re doing their job but my gosh!! She’s going so hard after every single thing which I understand her job is to defend but it is a lot!!! Very frustrating!
Usually the Judge follows the case, it’s the jury pool at issue.
I personally had no problem with Judge Judge, I believe he was just being abundantly cautious because there will be an appeal. This Judge is more experienced in big cases like this so he can handle the defense better and move faster. His case law citations are amazing.
@@GlitterbeautiesBasically motions to block all the evidence that shows he is guilty
I believe the DP is appropriate in this case. Thank you for your excellent and unbiased opinions in this case! Have a wonderful break playing golf! You deserve it! ❤❤
I agree 💯👍
Absolutely agree!
That's my issue with the DP. Why is m-rder okay in some situations and not others? It's basically telling the victim's loved one "well that victim didn't matter enough to give the DP, but this other victim's killer is worth it"
I absolutely believe the DP is appropriate in this case, though I generally am against the DP.
I'm with you. It is assessed too often across this country, but this crime does warrant the penalty.
u cant only be against the death penalty most of the time. unless ur just saying the judge followed the law. in which case it’d probably be better to say you think the death penalty is legally applicable in this case
I won't say Kohberger deserves the DP, because the trial has not yet begun. But, for this heinous crime and crimes like it, absolutely believe the DP is appropriate for any person found guilty beyond a shadow of doubt.
Thank you Peter! I appreciate your views. ♥️. Enjoy your golf trip! You deserve a break. ♥️
I like this Judge ❤
idk why people are giving this new judge so much credit for an ovbious and simple decision. This crime is clearly death penalty worthy
Not an easy decision
@chacha-Ce83 what's not an easy decision?? no judge was going to remove the death penalty lol.
There are heinous crimes that call for the death penalty.
Slaughtering 4 innocent college students who were in no way able to protect themselves….qualifies. If BK is convicted, he knew Idaho would hold him accountable for this act.
If I committed such a horrible act, took 4 innocent people’s lives, and terrible suffering to surviving family members why should I get to live? I forfeited my rights to live by taking away all 4 victims rights to live their lives.
I’m confused. You think they are giving people the penalty because they feel like it.? You find it offensive that people think they can end someone’s life just because they feel like it.? Isn’t that what Bryan did (you may not feel he did it but I do and I’m sticking to it)? Isn’t that what murderers do.? End people’s life because they feel like it.? They deserve the same treatment because this world needs less evil.
@@Jazlin92665I think he is guilty and he should be fully punished. I just think the sitting on death row for twenty years is much easier than being in general population for twenty years.
I formed my opinion listening to another prisoner who asked for the death penalty because life was easier for him to be celled in a death row part of the prison. The man was all about himself and wanted what was best for him. I wanted him to suffer and not get the death penalty.
Thank you so much for this! I have a feeling this Judge 👨⚖️ is a no messing around type guy!
Death penalty is a tough one. Something I struggle with and something my mind flip flops on. Based on the latter, it’s probably safer not to employ the death penalty. But DAMN sone people seem to go out of their way to deserve it.
So well said. Thank you for articulating exactly what I, too, am struggling with.
Thank you for discussing all things Kohberger !
Stephen Sterns is one that definitely needs the DP once proven guilty.. especially for what he did to her before her death
Well not just Maddie he is sick 35,000 phots of CSAM that’s horrendous
Recovering alcoholic here, 14 years, and Peter,I so admire your principles as it comes to redemption. When I got finished with treatment and met with my sponsor I had 191 amends to make to family, friends, loved ones and even people I didn’t know very well. Yes, we are promised GRACE, depending on your interpretation of the Word but regardless of faith I believe even non-believers should enjoy the opportunity grace & redemption offer.
They free the spirit of the soul, they make for a better world. Even if your remarks weren’t necessarily in regard to those of us who are addicts, the ability to forgive and the power redemption of the spirit can bring make this a better place. Well done.
It is written that grace and truth come by Christ.❤️
Thank you so very much for all your willingness to share your professional expertise as well as your significant understanding of complex moral issues. I am currently 74 years old. Throughout my lifetime, I have never supported the death penalty; this was largely based on racism and many people being unjustly framed for crimes. Technology has helped in this arena along with huge effort from groups such as the Innocents Project, etc. When I learned of the heinous crime of the murder of four college students in Moscow, Idaho, I was shocked beyond belief. Personally terrorized is more like it, even though I am no where near Idaho. As I watched things unfold on the media, my intuition kept screaming that Kohberger had done it. My rational mind kept trying to find some balance; meaning, he’s innocent until proven guilty but it never seemed to work. Once I was grounded in the case, I stepped back from it. With the case moving to a new venue and the Defense requesting that the death penalty be dropped, I heard counsel say that the death penalty “is cruel and inhumane” for prisoners on death row. I agree; however, what is cruel and inhumane is the slaughter of four young people in the middle of the night. There’s no way around it not being cruel and inhumane. Other than putting the convicted person to death immediately after being found guilty, there is no other way to compromise. I never thought I would arrive at this decision but after a long life filled with many hills and valleys, it’s where I stand with this vicious and obscene case.
Great interactions and interview questions. This is a good showcase of your industry knowledge too. I'm always happy to see a new video of yours in my feed.
First: Thank you, Peter, for taking a break from your "me" time to make this video to share the information and legality of the motions, along with your insights and perspectives with us.
Second: Thanks, John and Kelsey, as always, for making all these videos and lives happen. Just because you aren't on the "forefront" of the screen, we know you are there and are much appreciated!
Third: Agreed -- the law being the law as it is stated, then yes, the punishment does fit the crime (if found guilty). Like Peter said, like it or not, it is the court's job to uphold the law. It's our responsibility as American citizens to do our civil duty to research, vote, contact our representatives/legislators in pursuit for the laws we'd like seen or not seen -- whether it be new laws or old laws changed/removed.
Fourth: This does make me think of one question to ask, please, if you are able to answer Peter. A few years ago, a lead attorney in Utah County decided he would no longer seek the DP on any of his/the county's cases. Does that then go against the legislative laws of the state of Utah? Are individual prosecuting attorneys legally able to make such blanket decisions/actions such as that for all current and new trials?
Fifth: I am willing to share my beliefs/thoughts regarding the DP when asked, but it is not something I care to debate with others since it is such a controversial and personal subject matter. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions and belief systems. Since Peter inquired, with the guidelines that it be done in a civil and respectful manner to all, this has been my thought process over the years... I am much like Peter in that I have gone back and forth, wishy washy, on the whole DP thing during my life. My younger days, I was definitely pro-DP. (Eye for an eye.) Then it did become a thing of where it would just make my heart cringe, not only for the perpetrator, but also for the individual(s) that had to perform the execution. (Two wrongs don't make a right.) Then it became something that, as a tax-payer, it costs more money for all the years of appeal after appeal than it would if just sentenced to life without parole. I also began to believe that for some individuals it was actually more of a torturous punishment for them to know they'd have to live the rest of their life confined within the walls of prison without ever seeing "the light of day" again. In other words, receiving the death penalty actually seems to be more humane for the convicted criminal that performed such atrocious acts. (They're able to simply end their own mental and physical misery/anguish of having to constantly think, day in and day out, about the harm and pain they've caused to so many people/victims.) Then along came Chad Daybell/Lori Vallow just recently. There was such an internal feeling of relief for me (such as many others, I am sure) when Daybell was found guilty and sentenced to the DP. Granted, this case hits very close to home and there are many weaves of tangled webs that aren't necessarily seen from a purely legal standpoint. Most of us are okay without Lori receiving the DP in Idaho (regardless of the legal reasons) simply because we want her to face the court in Arizona to be tried and held accountable for the killing of Charles Vallow. Charles deserves justice, as well.
Sixth: The end. (Apologizes for such a long novel of a comment.)
Thank you for summarizing your professional and personal opinions.
Outstanding analysis.
Amazingly it has been 2 years since the crime yet seems like only yesterday.
Ive resubscribed to you again because the case is moving forward albeit at a snails pace.
The snails pace must be hurting the families: all the families: even Kohbergers.
My Brother: Death Penalty Cases ALWAYS go “At A Snail’s Pace,” and they ALWAYS KNEW The State was going to GO FOR THE DEATH PENALTY. Therefore, it’s BAKED IN THE CAKE that it was going to go At A Snail’s Pace. I remember, as soon as he was ARRESTED, they ALWAYS SAID: “Idaho is A Death Penalty State.” It’s OBVIOUS they would go for it. They made that CLEAR from Day One. There was ZERO DOUBT. ZERO.
@wildmercuryfilms fair enough still unfortunate. The longer this takes the more people suffer & the more it costs taxpayers.
I'm never for the DP. But I do agree that it's the worst of the worst kind of crime.
Peter…am SO appreciative of you sharing and discussing this with us. I have very clear views re the DP (which I’ve messaged you about before!) but it was illuminating to hear you speak about the legal aspect IF a State employs the DP. From a legal perspective I understand now. Thanking you and wishing you a super golf time!🙏😊
It is one thing to give the DP to someone you caught red handed. It is another to give it to someone where all they have is circumstantial evidence. If we find out that the latter is true in this case, then I hope the DP can be withdrawn before sentencing. IMO too many jurors have gotten it wrong lately.
Circumstantial cases should never be capital cases
I agree with you. The judges and jurors and prosecutors have given me reason to doubt the legal system. Law Enforcement is another problem.
new subscriber after watching all 3 of your videos on the laken riley trial! :) happy to be here
Always appreciate your view, thank you!
Very well put Peter and I totally agree with you. ❤️
I actually live in Idaho and live where the trail will take place. I am a believer if there is compelling evidence and NO chance a person is INNOCIENT then I agree with the death penalty. With the said it would be very difficult being on that jury! As we all are aware the justice system will have many appeals that will go before an appellate court.
unfortunately very few cases fit in the no chance a person is innocent category. Every wrongful conviction resulted from a trial that a jury felt contained compelling evidence, and we've all seen courts exclude compelling evidence that would likely have changed a juror's mind. I don't know, with appeals being such a long, difficult, and expensive uphill battle, a life is riding on how "honourable" the honourable judge really is. That's where I get hung up. I do appreciate seeing everyone's opinion on this though.
@@julie5845I think that means like DNA evidence & security footage or other electronic evidence showing the person was at the location 100% guilty does exist. The murder of Moriah Wilson was pretty clear cut, it happened in Texas, but a woman committed the murder so she was given 90 years.
@@gothgammy666touch DNA is so different than other types of DNA. At this time, there is no video evidence of him being at the crime scene. I think there is a lot more to this cart than the public has seen.
My thoughts on considering the death penalty are basically twofold. Is there overwhelming evidence? Absolutely no possibility of another person committing whatever crime? Higher bar than beyond a reasonable doubt to me, personally. And then second, reform. Are they a sociopath/psychopath? Are they a serial criminal? Both would have to be true for me to even consider DP. And even then every case is situational, as it always should be.
To me, forcing a convicted felon to spend the rest of their life in prison is worse than the DP. Easy way out to me.
I agree. Couldn't think of anything worse than having yr freedom taken away, being locked in and with the knowledge never going out ever again. What's the point staying alive under such conditions? I have always wonder how those lifetime sentenced could sit there day in and day out (as in staying alive). DP is certainly an easy way out. I guess the only thing would be if there was a glimpse of hope getting released, but if he will be convicted, he won't even have that little glimpse of hope. So, if considered guilty, I'd say, let him rot in prison.
No I would hate to see a liberal politician, bring this case forward or for someone to find a technical trial missteps allow this one to get free. My hope, is to have coleburger dispatched as he did them youngster college kids
@kevinbrooks1104 , fair point!
I agree with you 100 percent, you make things easier to understand.
Also I'm not sure I want government, who makes mistakes, putting people down who may be innocent. If there was a way to make everyone who had to do with an innocent person being given the DP responsible then I'd reconsider it. By that I mean the investigating cops, prosecutors, judge and maybe even jurors are held accountable then I'd reconsider it.
I’m 💯 against dp. But applying the law, if convicted, this case meets the standard. I absolutely couldn’t be on a jury for a dp case.
I can’t imagine what these poor parents are having to endure the defense
The one girls parents have made this a circus all on their own.
I've never really been able to come to a hard stance on the DP, but I will say, if there ever was a case that warranted the DP it's this one.
Very well articulated Peter I very much align with your take on the death penalty
I believe the DP is appropriate in this case. I cannot imagine losing my daughter or son in this way.
Agree with you completely
I've followed and researched this case from day 1..I've accumulated thousands of articles, photos and Reddit posts. As much as I have real doubts about BK's guilt, the case is worthy of the DP.
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You know nothing…wait until the trial.
I will be watching in its entirety. I will see all of the evidence.
You have seen speculation & idle gossip.
I agree with the judge 100%. He made an excellent argument. (Defense probably wishes they could take their change of venue back, eh?)
He could have stayed in Pullman, WA at WSU. But he decided to drive over to the University of Idaho. That’s 9 miles and a world apart n terms of the death penalty. To quote the deputy who made a speeding stop on my teenage sister and her boyfriend…. “You’re in Idaho now, boy. This is a progressive state.”
Law student here (2L). I’m so torn on the death penalty. On one hand we see so many botched investigations & wrongful convictions that makes me think how could I support the death penalty.
On the other hand, I see a case like Kohberger and all I can think is let him fry.
I acknowledge the confliction in my thoughts.
I can understand your view, my view is somewhat different. Say you have person who is a murder. Is it more just to have them sit in jail for forty plus years, or execute the person now? If I was that person, I want it ended now, a jail cell for forty years or more seems cruel to me.
Justice for Ethan, madison, kaylee, xana.
A legal system’s strength lies in its connection to the people it governs. Jurors, as individuals tasked with interpreting justice, rarely limit themselves to the letter of the law; their decisions often reflect their personal sense of morality and fairness. This is clear from your own experience, Peter, where despite strong cases, juries routinely rejected marijuana convictions because they could not reconcile the law with their values. When the public refuses to support a law, no amount of legal precision can force its relevance.
Even judicial verdicts, which rely on the authority of judges rather than juries, are shaped by the broader social landscape. Public opinion, fluid and ever-changing, exerts influence, often redefining how cases are perceived over time. The Menendez brothers’ verdicts, for instance, illustrate how societal shifts can reshape legal outcomes long after the decisions are made. Ultimately, the law is not a self-sustaining entity-it is a tool meant to reflect and uphold the principles of the people. When it strays too far from their collective values, it risks becoming obsolete.
I like how you explained how you feel about redemption- that tells me your a good man, not that I ever thought you weren't!
I have issues with the death penalty but that's me... I feel it's up to God ❤
Fourrrrrr 😊
Most definitely a DP case!!! The defense is finding out this judge isn't playing!
Yes i 💯 agree with DP in this case!
Thank you for covering this case..
It's interesting because we just saw the Daybell trial and sentencing as they went through the processes for applying a death penalty, so we have a template or comparison,
Hope you are doing well Peter, you seem a bit tired, peace and hugs❤
The 'redemption' argument is always so bad, no one really believes that. The real issue is that the state often gets it wrong, and innocent people are convicted all the time.
It just blows my mind, as a Brit living in Australia, that you’re discussing ‘executing’ someone. I guess it just shows mass justification and hypnosis. Wild.
But I do love your coverage of cases! ‘Merica is an interesting Petri dish to look at for the rest of the world.
I don’t support the death penalty…however in the state of Idaho it IS the law…so this case is eligible for the death penalty based on the CURRENT LAW PERIOD! So is the legislature supposed to change the law JUST for THIS one MAN? The absolute HUBRIS of this dude!
The LEGAL STANDARD for determining the aggravating circumstances do not change just because HE wants it to change! Trifurcating the penalty just for Bryan Kohberhger even though it is not the LAW is just asinine! THIS more than almost anything makes me feel he’s guilty.
I must add Bryan may be young but if he’s found guilty he should NEVER be released from prison. His crime was extremely heinous. If they are considering the death penalty then this crime was so serious the person who committed should never be allowed in society again.
⌚️Hi, LYK. I 🤔 think the DP is right for this case because he murdered people who weren't doing anything to him to have a reason for him to kill them, just my personal thought. Thanks for another helpful 📹 video. Peace✌️ to you & yours, love, Miss Janine🧸🐻🌴💯🆒️♏️🌌🪐🙃
Thanks for this update on Judge Hippler's latest ruling. Could it be AT never thought there was any chance the DP could be removed in a mass murder trial, but felt compelled to try as best she could? And was it a necessary step to get to her main one? What is puzzling for me is if the prosecutor is continuing to withhold his evidence from the defense, for whatever reasons (say, FBI has lost incriminating facts, testing of evidence delayed, etc ), and the defense has to keep asking for more time in waiting to receive that, then once there is one huge pile of evidence given, requiring additional time, then another arrives before completing the review of that first one, which was presented in a mishmash and totally disorganized, disconnected jumble, and then the 2nd enormous package of "evidence" arrives in the same state also so confusing and disorganized, and incoherent whereby the prosecutor himself is unable to say how much of that is redundant or if it is (additional) new and not included in the 1st batch, how can there NOT be a "speedy trial" waiver from the defense?
Is it normal for the prosecutor to present to the defense all, or most of the inculpitory evidence against their client in this way, and still leaving out crucial parts of it, too? Was there intent to make this very professional, detail oriented female defense attorney seem incompetent and annoyingly complaining to 2 judges because of slipshod, incomplete work and an inordinate amount of jumbled up incriminating evidence impossible to get through in the time allowed? That's what it looks like to me.
It appears that AT, after sorting through less than just half of it, has concluded not only is her client innocent, but that some of the evidence has been illegally obtained to the point all of it was, or fabricated/adjusted to fit what actual little they could find against her client, needing right up front a very damaging smear/false innuendo campaign to assist it, (and an attempt to stop/eliminate surveys revealing them), and meaning ONLY 1 thing - an entirely contrived case and a fraud, on him, the public and the victims and their families. Did I misunderstand she wants all those gigabytes of evidence tossed? Is this usual or a normal attempt in DP cases, has AT done this before? Has she EVER come out and have her team as well as herself publicly announce and vehemently maintain more than once they are committed to being on the public record firmly believing BK is completely innocent of these DP charges? I see Judge Hippler not taking kindly to this potentially intimidating stance, as unimportant or irrelevant as so many think that is, and long before arriving in his bailiwick. (Did anyone notice a flicker of a smile (or was it a grimace?) in reminding AT a firing squad situation was being composed as she was speaking about capital punishment?)
People always say "wait for the evidence, there's more" but if they had more evidence besides the Touch DNA it would have been listed in the warrant. What we do know is if the case is based solely on Touch DNA, then the DP will be overturned on appeal and BK will be freed on appeal. Precedent in other states says Touch DNA can't be used as the sole principal evidence in a conviction because of it's nature.
Yes I noticed his smile
Agree most points,queries..as AT was specifically appointed because of her DP qualification,I'm sure she understands judicial system and motions to take DP off.She may be sowing seeds for Motions to come,that are more beneficial to Defense @Trial.??
I agree in the DP for this case.
why is this being discussed before the trial? It sounds like there is a presumption of guilt until proven otherwise and so it is necessary to consider whether the dp should be considered. This is so weird. There is enough time to debate the sentencing post trial after he has been declared as guilty.
He keeps trying to change the law! That’s not his place!
I dont like the DP. However, it was never a question if they could apply it to this case. It does meet the criteria.
Peter, very admirable of you to hope and pray for redemption for criminals. May they find their way to Jesus and be transformed!
DP shoukd have been in yesterdays trial for Jose Iberra that killed Laken Riley. Shame on the DA. Weak, shameful
My problem with your redemption thought is if he’s convicted he’s never sniffing freedom. As it looks right now it doesn’t matter how young he is he killed 4 people in what looks like a well planned premeditated attack.
Agreed with your viewpoint.
Here in NY with Rex H, this serial killer, he can't get the death penalty as I understand it. His victims are in different states but I don't know who or where his case will be.
But in general, death penalty is hard for me to be strongly convicted to.
All of Heuermann's charges are in a New York jurisdiction. The relevant crimes are believed to have occurred in that jurisdiction.
The New York state legislature abolished the death penalty in their state in 2004.
To date, he has not been charged in a state other than New York.
No comparison, the menendez brothers had an abuse defense from day one, BK- MALICIOUS- PERIOD!
This is a case of malice murder with aggravating circumstances. DP applies.
Great coverage
Thus far the family’s of the victims haven’t received a whiff of justice and BK has a team of stall tactic experts paid handsomely by everybody but him. Let’s face it .. if he were innocent they would have wanted a speedy trial so he would be a free man, instead of exploring every random loophole known to man, not defending his innocence but merely the means of the state’s method to procure evidence. I am a pacifist vegan but absolutely believe in the DP in obvious cases like this. Why should he, if convicted, or any cold blooded killer deserve a
chance at redemption , when they made a decision to end another’s opportunity to simply draw breath. Opponents of the DP I simply ask the question.. “ what if it had been your family member/s slaughtered ?” .. hesitation.
Definitely worthy of the DP. This was a crime that was meticulously planned for sport
Kohburger why are you shying away from DP it's clearly meant for you ❤
Totally agree with you Peter!
I agreed with you😊
Was just thinking about how the companies that produce the drugs and chemicals that are used in lethal injection executions, OBJECT to there use and legally withhold the cocktail of drugs like phenobarbital and others from those officials associated with death row because they don't want the company to be associated death sentences.
Now take another company providing the method of execution to the state of Idaho, wonder if there will be anti-death penalty advocates trying to protest and pressure ammo producing companies because of that company (let's say Remington Hypothetically) wonder if felt pressure, would they try to refuse the sale and ban the use of there brand ammo in death penalty executions ...
Just a thought
I'm Swedish and live in Sweden and we don't have the death penalty. I'm torn. I find it offensive when people decide that it's their right to end other people's lives just because they feel like it. People that have done nothing wrong other than exist. In Brian Kohberger's case it feels like he wanted to do an experiment and that makes it even worse. I wouldn't lose sleep over him being executed but there's something about the death penalty, the procedure, that makes it so absurd "Ok, on Monday at 6 pm we're gonna strap you to a bed and kill you, but we'll make sure that you're healthy before we do it."
I think you maybe should look in to the case some more.
I fully believed he was guilty, I now don’t.
Idaho has death by firing squad
@@Cece-dad17yeeeeaaa Bryan just had the same car as the perp, looked like the perp, stole Bryan’s phone, and carried Bryan’s DNA into the victims home. Geeee how unlucky Bryan is. NOT!!
@@Jazlin92665 you forgot to mention the stalking didn’t you?
@@Cece-dad17 The prosecution has been clear that there was no 'stalking'. Although to be clear stalking does have a specific legal definition, which is not necessarily synonymous with his activities specified in the PCA.
Even if you are a young person, once you have set out to plan and go through with these gruesome murders of four other young people, protection of society and not redemption is more of a concern to me.
Well said...
@@robertabarty61 Thanks.
Hi Peter, thank you for your honest opinion. I am not anti death penalty, but there has been a rash of people who are presumed innocent put to death lately. Ivan Cantu, Marcellus Williams, and soon Robert Roberson. Would you be able to shine a light on the appeal process at this level and talk about why these types of cases wouldn't be granted. Is it political or the law that failed these individuals.
I believe the DP is absolutely applicable in this case.
I think any time the prosecution has failed to give all their discovery to the defense before the time frame for a speedy trial. Either they should not be allowed to use any evidence/testimony they didn't turn over (sucks to be the prosecution in that case), or if the defense waives speedy trial because they are waiting then it should be treated as if they have not waived speedy trial for motions such as this.
Prosecution needs some penalties for screwing around and playing games.
They haven’t she’s been a dramatic lunatic the entire time.
Does anyone have any recommendations for a video that goes over the evidence they have against the defendant in this case?
We don’t know, it’s under seal.
Morning hard working LYK crew! Thanks for all you do
Good evening all. Will be listening while cooking dinner
Same here
I agree with you 100%.
She is always arguing how the law should be instead of how the current law applies to her client’s case
Agree, although most of those filings are authored by Jay Logsdon.
@ ok. They are always lol
Great news
Agree with the dp for this case it is not easy to make such a decision and my prayers go out to this jury who will have to make such a decision
I served on a jury for a murder trial two years ago, in Colorado. I have never been more focused in my life as I was for those two and a half weeks. Thankfully in Colorado the judge decides the sentence. We were asked to weigh all of the evidence, try to decide who among the many witnesses was credible, and to come to a decision as to guilty or not guilty on six different counts. We took it VERY seriously and spent three and a half days deliberating. At one point I thought we'd be a hung jury on at least three of the counts. But we ultimately had consensus. I am not sure how it would have evolved if we ALSO had to decide the sentence for the defendant. I'm so grateful that this was not my job.
My problem with the dp is the fact that innocent people have been put to death. I can't imagine what that must feel like. You know you didn't commit the crime, yet your life will be taken away...
I do not believe one person was capable of committing this crime in the time allotted by the prosecution.
Innocent people put to death? That doesn't happen.. innocent people doing time, but not death. And there aren't very many innocent people in prison, these days. Remember, every murderer thinks he is innocent.
@@outoftime7740 Doesn't happen? Yeah fucking right. You can lie to yourself to help yourself sleep at night all you want, but keep that kind of bullshit to yourself please.
@@outoftime7740there has been at least 190 cases which is 190 too many, stop hiding your eyes from the fact the level system is imperfect
@@outoftime7740it happens and HAS happened. The state gets is wrong A LOT and they don’t care.
If you were a judge you'd prob let all of them bad ones go free. Thankfully you are not.
Judge not putting up this this creeps demands GOOD!
It's funny to me he has "demands" in the first place. Dude thinks he's so smart and committed one of the sloppiest and careless crimes I've ever seen
Hello good morning ☀️ Peter, Mods and Chat
It’s bizarre that the Death Penalty exists in the same system that will give a child rapist a minimum 5 years (25 max).
I agree that this case meets the criteria for capital punishment -
Even if the parameters of the crime warrant DP and the judge determines it is an appropriate sentence in the event of a guilty verdict, can't the jury reject it and vote for a life sentence? This is what happened during the sentencing phase of the Susan Smith trial in 1995.
Ultimately, yes the decision to impose the DP is up to the jury, but to serve on the jury they must be willing to impose the death penalty.
@@sara_387 Thanks for the clarification.
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I’ve heard it argued that the worst penalty (DP) actually shows the ultimate regard for the value of human life. The penalty is so great because of the very high value of life.
I agree with your opinion Peter on this case. It just needs to get moving... Its like the defense attorney is stalling this out. Everything but the kitchen sink, so to say!
It's ridiculous!
Thank God.
One could appropriately assume someone’s personal opinion on the DP would greatly have an influence on if they personally side with the outcome of a motion.
I’m so torn on this subject. I live n California, where we have the DP, but it’s on hold. In California, it costs us so much money to leave someone on death row, and the likelihood of that death penalty being carried out is slim to none. As a result of that, I’m kind of anti-death penalty, for California. Because we’re spending all of this money, but to know ultimate end.
Question: Is there any chance that Kohberger gets a plea deal if he were to plead guilty, LWOP instead of DP?
I am interested in this case, and I’m wondering where the verdict is going to lye because there was minimal DNA found at the crime scene like a fingerprint on a knife sheath and what appears to be a similar or the same car on the camera. My question is still are they going to question the survivors at the trial or are they going to get a dismissed? I’m also wondering if this will be an open to public case or is this gonna be more of a non public case because of the publicity around this case. Also, I think it’s going to be very hard to prove the defense since the roommates that survived didn’t call the police until 8 hours later but decided to call friends instead who came over to the house and some said they went into the house looking for survivors, which messed up DNA additionally. I see too many flaws and too many mess up with people being in and out of that house ripping that house apart and demolishing it. This entire case reminds me of JonBennett Ramsey.
This is one thing i dont understand about the law sometimes. Aggrevating factors, yes i hear what is said. But how do u tell a family whose child was "just" shot is not as bad as someone who was stabbed.
This was planned out and beforehand. Also the family is usually consulted on whether they want to pursue it or not.
A child victim is aggravating actually and the victims family has a court liaison and they are part of the conversation.
IMO, there's no better example of appropriateness of DP.
I would love to know your thoughts on this. For the sake of a conviction, I kind of wish the prosecution reduces this to life without parole because that is actually also a death penalty sentence where Kohberger will die in in prison and I feel it reduces the pressure on the jury where they dont have to feel they are responsible for Kohberger’s death and thus being more critical on a conviction choice. I wish trials would be about guilty or not and then after a judge can decide on a death penalty or not taking that burden off a jury. Or is this already the case where the penalty is 100% the judge's choice?
I don’t think it will put much pressure on the jury as they will be picking a jury who is ok with having to give someone the death penalty. I’m looking at it as Bryan is scared to get the death penalty and his public defender is trying to have it removed for him. Since he’s rather get life… I would t give that too him cause that’s the easier sentence in his eyes. I think it is too. People doing long sentences, end up adjusting.
@@Jazlin92665 Thanks. What I find interesting is when the defense attorney Ann Taylor was pushing for the removal of the death penalty I wonder if that would have removed her as well because the only reason she is assigned to this case form the DA's office is that she is one of the few or possibly the only ADA in The County that Moscow ID is in who has death penalty experience (or certification if there is such as thing). She is making 2X her normal salary because it’s a death penalty case.
@@TT41401 you’re right.. she is making a lot of money off of this case. I didn’t think of her being off the case if the death penalty got taken off. Could also be why she wants it removed. Maybe the case is too big for her. Maybe she’s losing faith. She might be looking for a way out. Maybe not though. She does seem like she’s doing any and everything to save her client so she might really be invested. Who knows..
@@Jazlin92665There is an easy answer to removing the death penalty and that’s to negotiate a life without parole sentence by confessing. However, I think she sees this as her ticket to being a high paid defense lawyer. She has proved competence so far, but the trial has not begun. She has zero to work with because her client is guilty and I wish she would just do the right thing and plead this to life, but I have a feeling her client who is not even paying for her services is either to dumb or to arrogant or both and won’t let her do what she knows she should do and she may not want to do that herself for her own reasons. She is IMO taking advantage of the judicial system with all the motions and nonsense.