Johnny Depp on Larry King Live 6/6

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

Комментарии • 191

  • @stacyhape1153
    @stacyhape1153 2 года назад +194

    I wish he would have stayed with the mother of his children!!! I love Johnny, and hope he finds peace in this life after this nightmare with Amber Heard!!!!!

    • @AussieGirl235
      @AussieGirl235 2 года назад +11

      Wrong. No one should ever stay with someone they no longer want to be with

    • @marieharris1230
      @marieharris1230 2 года назад +21

      Johnny DEPP speaks very highly and with great respect about Vanessa. Only they know exactly why they split. I heard that he made the comment that he regretted that they split up.

    • @georgiedeyell1786
      @georgiedeyell1786 2 года назад +2

      Agree.

    • @mikemckay4256
      @mikemckay4256 2 года назад +5

      I agree! Breaks my heart for him.

    • @annieschlater1534
      @annieschlater1534 2 года назад +7

      At the trial it came out that he and Vanessa separated in 2010 so in this interview they were no longer together, but they only decided to announce it in 2012. Must be strange to have to speak about an ex partner as if still together.

  • @elkegerlach7060
    @elkegerlach7060 2 года назад +145

    You can't compare Johnny to any other actor. He is just simply something so unique and special. Once in a life time guy (actor).

  • @Sogonrei
    @Sogonrei 2 года назад +98

    I've seen Larry King interview hundreds of celebrities, but it is clear here he is enchanted by Johnny Depp's authentic self. Depp is deep, intelligent, witty, well read, engaging, comfortable with Larry, excited to share his passions articulately, yet state his limits in a kind polite way, gracious about his fame and appreciative. #justiceforjohnny

    • @cappsginny699
      @cappsginny699 2 года назад +1

      Sogonrei:
      *articulately, not
      articuriculately!

    • @Sogonrei
      @Sogonrei 2 года назад

      @@cappsginny699 I must have pressed a wrong letter and made a mistake and then it autocorrected to that ridiculous spelling lol. Thanks for catching it.

    • @terridinneen8870
      @terridinneen8870 2 года назад

      @@cappsginny699 read her post again. Before you call someone out for misspelling, check yourself!!!

    • @lindadainard7629
      @lindadainard7629 2 года назад

      Well stated

  • @rhondafortson5205
    @rhondafortson5205 3 года назад +100

    LARRY KING is probably the Best interviewer. He certainly brought out a side of JOHNNY DEPP rarely seen. Fantastic.

    • @norvimilad71
      @norvimilad71 2 года назад +1

      I agree with you mam.

    • @erstwhile6163
      @erstwhile6163 2 года назад

      You don’t get out much do you??

    • @-108-
      @-108- 2 года назад +1

      I disagree. He rudely interrupted him more times than I cared to count, cutting him off mid sentence. Larry King was "the king" because he was advertised as "the king." He was just a familiar face & voice on a familiar TV interview show, and now everyone says he was the GOAT. I'd tend to think Joe Rogan does a more interesting interview. Of course, he's got a >3hr format, but that extra ~2 hours changes everything.

    • @LuluDumpling
      @LuluDumpling 2 года назад

      @@erstwhile6163 Looks to me like you're the one with no life if you've got time to go out of your way to sh!t on other people's comments

    • @ilovenewzealand
      @ilovenewzealand 2 года назад

      @@-108- I liked Craig Ferguson the most of all the interviewers. Not keen on Dave forgotten his surname

  • @erstwhile6163
    @erstwhile6163 2 года назад +42

    Ahhh JD. He’s a TRUE gentleman.
    That’s enough for me.
    Considerate, warm, kind, authentic.

    • @lindaschwartz9828
      @lindaschwartz9828 2 года назад +2

      JOHNNY DEPP IS THE MOST AWESOME VERSATYLE ACTER EVER........
      GREAT AS EDWARD SCIZZEEHANDS
      AND IN .. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO GILBERT GRAPE?? AND AS
      THE GREAT CAPTAIN WHO NO ONE CAN COMPARE
      A MAN FROM KENTUCKY SO
      WIDELY ADMIRED FOR HIS
      ACTING ABILITIES...... IN
      THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY
      AND HE IS GORGEIUS............

    • @steveschiller5496
      @steveschiller5496 2 года назад +1

      @@lindaschwartz9828 yes he is a beautiful man , for sure.

    • @margaretmitchell3425
      @margaretmitchell3425 2 года назад

      @@lindaschwartz9828 p

  • @kjm8055
    @kjm8055 2 года назад +31

    the thing about watching old videos like this - it makes you want to yell at the screen at him to stay away from Amber….Don’t do it Johnny! Walk the other way! Stay away!

    • @amandairby6181
      @amandairby6181 2 года назад +2

      It most definitely does!! Bless his heart, she put him through hell!
      Love JD!! ❤️

  • @katpiotrowski8078
    @katpiotrowski8078 2 года назад +48

    Watching this, end of May 2022 and the day of closing arguments for the trial, I realized something. I truly believe Johnny’s substance abuse was a coping mechanism. Him trying to survive Amber H abuse. I personally think the substance abuse was OVER exaggerated by Amber and her buddies but his use age was probably more because he just had difficulty coping with the abuse. It was his way out. Can you imagine living with that narcissist AH??in my 20’s I survived a truly abusive husband and I can tell you THERE IS NO WAY I could have talked to him as terrible as she talked to Johnny and still be ALIVE to write this today. She is a liar and I am just glad that Johnny didn’t lose his life while trying to cope with her wicked presence. I hope the jury sees through her.

    • @rhondalarimore8196
      @rhondalarimore8196 2 года назад +9

      I agree about the coping mechanism. Don’t think he was like that with Vanessa. I think Amber saw $$$

    • @karencox8240
      @karencox8240 Год назад

      In one of the many audio tapes of their arguments he basically says what you just said. The substance abuse was his way of coping with her haranguing and belittling of him. It's in a recording toward the end of their relationship when she is complaining about his substance abuse to him and that is he says that to her (not exactly how I just said it, I was paraphrasing.

  • @marileeherdman5389
    @marileeherdman5389 2 года назад +28

    I love hearing him talk about his kids..he's such a good father!!

  • @amiek9269
    @amiek9269 2 года назад +65

    Thank you Christine for posting these. The next clip was always right there, instead of having to search for it!! Enjoyed these very much. 💕

  • @j.c.nightwalker5322
    @j.c.nightwalker5322 2 года назад +24

    10 years ago? Wow. I have to say 10 years later, all the normal plebs out here are still with Johnny through all the sludge he has been dragged through, I really pray that he gets through all this mud, vindicated and a better man for it. Blessings to Johnny, your beautiful children and to Vanessa who has to have had a troubled heart through all this AH trauma.

  • @ramongonzalez2112
    @ramongonzalez2112 2 года назад +30

    Never was a fan. I am now. Complex and talented guy. Can see how him and Brando hit it off.👍

  • @takersdfan
    @takersdfan 3 года назад +34

    I love how he loves his kids

    • @snook7100
      @snook7100 2 года назад

      The greatest of Love.

  • @elvirafeher4254
    @elvirafeher4254 3 года назад +72

    A fantastic series of videos. Johnny will never know how much he has inspired others. A truly beautiful soul and gentle man.

  • @interneda98
    @interneda98 12 лет назад +74

    1:00 i was thinking he was gonna say 'i was in deep love'' but he said ''in deep trouble'' haha God i love him

    • @brandonliedtke1688
      @brandonliedtke1688 3 года назад

      Haha Samez’s lol

    • @ilovenewzealand
      @ilovenewzealand 2 года назад +1

      and in an interview with Oprah he added "My days as a single man were over". I loved that.

  • @meganoshea8578
    @meganoshea8578 3 года назад +59

    Johnny Depp is the most beautiful man inside and outside I love everything about him

  • @PureSparkles22
    @PureSparkles22 2 года назад +27

    Love when he talks about Vanessa

  • @joliz1234
    @joliz1234 2 года назад +27

    Johnny is such a gentleman

  • @merlynbalmes9815
    @merlynbalmes9815 2 года назад +20

    He is just an awesome guy

  • @teriturnbull8859
    @teriturnbull8859 3 года назад +39

    You'll never get old Johnny ! I love everything you do !

  • @mandylangford1080
    @mandylangford1080 2 года назад +12

    A unique character actor with a unique intelligence. A unique man - handsome beyond words. xx

  • @C11-c1y7l
    @C11-c1y7l 2 года назад +20

    Thank you for this interview-sequence . It reveals two beautiful minds and a very precious soul of a gifted actor . - Excited for his next projects !

  • @gloriayarbrough3482
    @gloriayarbrough3482 2 года назад +27

    Johnny is adorable and so down to earth.Love u Johnny

  • @LittleMoths94
    @LittleMoths94 12 лет назад +26

    only larry king could get such a good interview from Johhny depp. fantastic!

  • @Janadu
    @Janadu 13 лет назад +31

    Such a nice guy, and adorable too. Love you Johnny!

  • @iFugazii
    @iFugazii 13 лет назад +34

    i would just like to say Thank You Christina sooooo much for posting this absolutely amazing interview... Johnny Depp is the BEST! :)

  • @lindadainard7629
    @lindadainard7629 2 года назад +5

    you won Johnny! This 76 year old woman has been around long enough to know you were abused, you see I too was abused and know Amber was not abused. All the best Johnny, a fan.

  • @lkmsmiles971
    @lkmsmiles971 11 лет назад +37

    Love this interview..what an amazing guy. Thanks for uploading!

  • @de15nne1
    @de15nne1 2 года назад +8

    The brilliant Johnny Depp ❤

  • @kumuluskld
    @kumuluskld 2 года назад +7

    Thank you so much for uploading these clips!

  • @TheXfour1
    @TheXfour1 13 лет назад +18

    Best interview with Johnny I have ever seen! (and I have seen a lot, haha)

  • @jelaine3853
    @jelaine3853 6 лет назад +18

    love him.. Thank you for all 6 videos. very enjoyable.

  • @addicted2yoouu
    @addicted2yoouu 11 лет назад +62

    I'm just amazed he looks great at 50, if I were to compare Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt, Brad Pitt looks older. Just saying.

    • @elkegerlach7060
      @elkegerlach7060 2 года назад +3

      Johnny blows him away...Brad Pitt I see guys like the time cookie cutter. Johnny thinks outside the box. Just so amazing.

    • @beatricefaria-clendinning8943
      @beatricefaria-clendinning8943 2 года назад +1

      Team Johnny…👍Brad Pitt… meh…🤔🤣🤣🤣🇨🇦

    • @erstwhile6163
      @erstwhile6163 2 года назад +2

      Pitt is not my type at all but why put him down when the topic is JD?

    • @paintedlady82
      @paintedlady82 2 года назад +1

      That's because Johnny is part Native. Native genes look young.

  • @pjita2225
    @pjita2225 12 лет назад +24

    Thank you so much for posting this, you really made a huge favor to all of us.

  • @JENNDOMI
    @JENNDOMI 4 года назад +14

    Tonto was the Lone Ranger's Savior in that film .. excellent !!

  • @deppwaswho
    @deppwaswho 13 лет назад +14

    thankyou so much for uploading this - made my day watching this briliiant man talk

  • @margmcmillan
    @margmcmillan 4 месяца назад

    Love at first sight. Wow! Johnny Loves his family, totally.
    As a child I watched Tonto and Lone Ranger religiously. Back in the day it was accepted as a society and never thought perhaps that the roles portrayed one role over the other. Today however obviously scrutiny felt by Indigenous individuals were on screen equalization of importance a necessity. Great interview and prospective in today’s world. Mr. Depp you opened many eyes. Thank you

  • @Animalfarm6cats
    @Animalfarm6cats 13 лет назад +9

    I watched it on the air date but, now i can watch it over and over. Thanks Christina

  • @46StephC
    @46StephC 2 года назад +10

    He never should’ve left his wife Vanessa for crazy amber!!! What the hell was he thinking.!!!!!

    • @susanjohnston3627
      @susanjohnston3627 2 года назад +2

      I agree! He looked so happy and healthy in this interview, compared to the man we saw in the court room for 6 weeks.

  • @135791mar
    @135791mar 12 лет назад +11

    Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

  • @steveschiller5496
    @steveschiller5496 2 года назад +1

    I enjoyed watching this so much. A beautiful, brilliant, caring, deep soul. Loves his children and his fans too.💕

  • @r-l1214
    @r-l1214 2 года назад +1

    “It’s your honor?” I love that. It’s always great when Larry King is charmed by someone. Two giants sitting and chatting like old friends…❤️

  • @lovingmayberry307
    @lovingmayberry307 2 года назад +3

    Love Johnny so much, and miss Larry - he was such a good interviewer.
    #JusticeForJohnny

  • @Sharriska
    @Sharriska 13 лет назад +8

    Thank you so so much for posting this!

  • @rachiejoe
    @rachiejoe 2 года назад +1

    I love this man. He has such a big heart, he is so genuine, and talented, not to mention gorgeous! I love his sense of humor. I could watch these interviews all day!!

  • @Co0kieMonsterxox
    @Co0kieMonsterxox 13 лет назад +10

    amazing really amazing Johnny in such detail loved it wish there was more of the office though so fasinating thx for uploading it

  • @marieharris1230
    @marieharris1230 2 года назад +5

    He has Indian blood!!! No wonder he’s sooooo beautiful!!!! I can really see it!!

  • @auburnpulu7949
    @auburnpulu7949 2 года назад +3

    Great interview! You hardly see him open up this much 😍

  • @myrietta
    @myrietta 13 лет назад +9

    Thank you very much for uploading this very interesting interview!

  • @lyubovrimkeit6969
    @lyubovrimkeit6969 2 года назад +3

    Сhristy his sister is so sweet and smart just like himself....

  • @scottiedog4236
    @scottiedog4236 2 года назад +1

    This is so nice … Great interview Johnny 👍 and Larry ❤️sadly missed ..

  • @pinkmusiicluva
    @pinkmusiicluva 12 лет назад +27

    I was never aware that he was part native American before watching this interview but I can totally see it now.

    • @clf8668
      @clf8668 5 лет назад +1

      Kentuckian yes!

  • @michaelcollins237
    @michaelcollins237 2 года назад +4

    I met Jay Silverheels and Russell Means when I was a young man.
    I asked them both about Tonto being a sidekick and neither one of the two saw anything wrong with the term or rhe role,

  • @shahrozsabzwari9
    @shahrozsabzwari9 13 лет назад +6

    Thank you for uploading this.

  • @gsabo1000
    @gsabo1000 2 года назад +3

    I love that he keeps props, and under lock and key

  • @IBMRSE
    @IBMRSE 2 года назад +2

    What a funny, charming and gracious man that Johnny Depp!!

  • @anabelleadalin729
    @anabelleadalin729 2 года назад +8

    #justice4JohnnyDepp

  • @beatrizlpz3045
    @beatrizlpz3045 2 года назад +2

    I love how he talks about his sister, Vanessa and his kids ❤

  • @patomella
    @patomella 13 лет назад +3

    Tack U Christina for this interview,
    It was also a very good quality.
    Luv it!!!
    /patomella

  • @vickishack5139
    @vickishack5139 2 года назад

    10 years later thank you for uploading this. I have always wondered why Barbara Walter's never got an interview with him. Now I know it's because he doesn't like to do them. He has always been my celeb crush since 21 Jump Street! My ex is an actor and I know if he ever works with him, he'll bring me to the set just so I can meet him and watch him film! I pray he finds peace within himself now that he's done with the bish he should never had been with.

  • @mollypitcher9380
    @mollypitcher9380 2 года назад

    ChristinaXxXBarrett- thanks for posting probably the best JD interview out there.

  • @cleopatrevardaki8449
    @cleopatrevardaki8449 2 года назад +2

    His best interview ever ! He should never leave Vanessa.. big men sometimes make big mistakes.

  • @raynash4117
    @raynash4117 2 года назад +3

    Love you Johnny.. keep your chin up!!! This is going to pass and the steel inside of you will be much stronger......

  • @roadtriplover.
    @roadtriplover. 2 года назад +3

    Wow! 14years and he threw it away for a crazy shrew. What a shame. It sure did change his life track.

  • @mariannebroadhead7318
    @mariannebroadhead7318 2 года назад +5

    What a great interview!!!! That man HAS it all…. ❤️❤️❤️
    Be gone 💩💩💩

  • @acscorner7488
    @acscorner7488 2 года назад +2

    Johnny is an amazing man and actor. His life with Amber may be a nightmare but even good people undergo such trials and pains because it is a part of our existence.. I wish Johnny would find faith in the true church and know the difference.

  • @388clancy
    @388clancy 2 года назад +1

    I certainly Larry King shows at 9PM. It was always a surprise to see who was going to be on the show every evening. Why can't CNN bring back this type of show again instead of all these political shows.? Many people wanted to be interviewed by Larry King.

  • @margaretroserobertson4545
    @margaretroserobertson4545 Год назад

    I love Johnny Depp dont care what people about him I just love the man could listen to hi. Talk all day

  • @Susan.1958
    @Susan.1958 Год назад

    Johnny is a handsome guy when he said he as Cherokee in his family as did Elvis have Cherokee that’s two gorgeous guys and only made 1 Johnny depp and 1 Elvis 🇬🇧❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @crzsxychilngal9895
    @crzsxychilngal9895 2 года назад +2

    Ironically, all the things he should have considered when he met AH, he warned himself about in this interview. People watching, looking passed the book cover and read the inside pages before closing the chapter with Vanessa.

  • @artcory
    @artcory 13 лет назад +2

    Thanks sooooooooo much

  • @diarts4458
    @diarts4458 4 года назад +28

    So where’s the tour of Johnny’s office?

    • @snook7100
      @snook7100 2 года назад

      Wondering the same

    • @barbaramendoza2202
      @barbaramendoza2202 2 года назад +1

      Probably edited out. There were quick shots of his memorabilia and art. After all, the decisions needed to be made to fit in the allotted time - more of interview or more of touring office? Personally, a little disappointed in no real tour, but appreciative of all the interview footage.

  • @fayboswell3479
    @fayboswell3479 2 года назад +8

    Pity he got involved with Amber Heard. What a pity.

  • @shanzfendi
    @shanzfendi 2 года назад +5

    Crazy to think that he was secretly seeing Amber at this time. I'm glad that he is out of that situation

  • @robindore258
    @robindore258 2 года назад

    An absolute beautiful soul
    Inside and out ❤️‍🔥

  • @julieshelley9251
    @julieshelley9251 2 года назад +2

    Go Johnny Go!

  • @debrabugay6335
    @debrabugay6335 2 года назад +1

    Love you Johnny

  • @cindychristiansen6329
    @cindychristiansen6329 10 месяцев назад

    Johnny Depp I am glad that you 🙏 you found some happiness in your life. ❤ I still love ❤️ you kisses 💋 and hugs 🫂 🤗

  • @eaccristo
    @eaccristo 2 года назад +3

    I didn’t know anything about JD. Only saw Edward Scissorshands. But I have followed his horrendous trial. After seeing this in its entirety I am 100% positive that he is completely innocent. And boy she did a number on him. Aged him from sadness and betrayal.

  • @blogfalado
    @blogfalado 13 лет назад +5

    @deluxsound123 I understood perfectly what you meant. And I am telling you that he is not a "European Wanna be". So, a person cannot enjoy things from other countries? He likes European culture, Brazilian music ... But he never ceased to honour his country in every way. I also understand from Indians and since the first time I saw Johnny on the cover of a magazine in 1989 I had assured that he is descended from Indians. And so before I see his movies, and before he talk about their ancestry.

  • @New4day
    @New4day 13 лет назад +2

    Thanks.

  • @blogfalado
    @blogfalado 13 лет назад +4

    @deluxsound123 He is the best actor in the world. And he is not an European, he is an American, descendant of native Americans who shows American culture to the world! See his movies!
    Thompson for example, what is he? He is an American. Johnny is committed to the utmost to make this movie based on a book written by an American that the world will only know because of Johnny.
    And he also shows the native Americans to the world, always concerned about the dignity of this people.

  • @EdwinJosue785
    @EdwinJosue785 13 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the upload!

  • @janinemcarrow3199
    @janinemcarrow3199 2 года назад

    Johnny has good rapport with older men whom he respects. It's the same here with Larry. A lovely interview. Much more interesting than those forced banters at late night talk shows.

  • @frantucker608
    @frantucker608 2 года назад +1

    Delightful!

  • @fuffymarca2918
    @fuffymarca2918 2 года назад +1

    Love him!

  • @muse54
    @muse54 11 лет назад +7

    Thanks so much for these? When were these interviews? You uploaded them in 2011. I noticed that Pierce Morgan was also on. I totally missed these. Thanks!

  • @megaaan1234
    @megaaan1234 12 лет назад +2

    thanks!

  • @eileen8776
    @eileen8776 Год назад

    I thought this was a very interesting interview and I am very glad I took the time to listen.JD looked relaxed, healthy, and happy. I thoughft Larry really covered a lot of territory very well. I read that this interview aired in Oct 2011 while he still was Vanessa. Too bad Amber Heard ever came into his life.

  • @belladonnapearl9066
    @belladonnapearl9066 2 года назад

    Great interview Larry!

  • @sdavis5001
    @sdavis5001 2 года назад +1

    What a pleasure, what an honor. Wth. It’s usually the other way around.

  • @KimJones-d8x
    @KimJones-d8x 6 месяцев назад

    Johnny depp is so surreal

  • @maggie7843
    @maggie7843 2 года назад +8

    0:16 if only he’d stayed together with Vanessa…

    • @AussieGirl235
      @AussieGirl235 2 года назад +3

      Wrong. No one should ever stay with someone they no longer want to be with

    • @nanabuster7285
      @nanabuster7285 2 года назад +1

      @@AussieGirl235 Oh I’m sure Johnny has regrets. He was attracted to the new, young, shiny thing most middle aged men are.

    • @marymagdalene3004
      @marymagdalene3004 2 года назад +1

      Why?

    • @AussieGirl235
      @AussieGirl235 2 года назад +2

      Nana Buster - His relationship with Vanessa was on the way out but they stayed together for 2 more years, so no.

    • @snook7100
      @snook7100 2 года назад

      They remain friends & they have that bond of parenting. She will always be a part of his life.

  • @julianat1939
    @julianat1939 2 года назад +2

    I believe you Johnny Depp.
    It must have been hell living with Amber Heard. It was so brave of you to come out a famous man and say I Johnny Debb a man am being abused by a woman Amber Heard.
    Melbourne Australia 🌹

  • @SockMonkey007
    @SockMonkey007 13 лет назад +4

    I like how he refers to Arnie Hammer as "this guy named." This guy who co-starred in one of the best movies of last year. not exactly a nobody. haha.
    Just kidding. I'm psyched for Lone Ranger. Depp and Verbinski again!

  • @kirikakirikakirika
    @kirikakirikakirika 13 лет назад +8

    What happened to the office tour?

  • @jokerswildio
    @jokerswildio 2 года назад +2

    Love Johnny Depp!! My straight guy man crush. But I hate to say. .he was so blessed with his first wife, and their lovely children (his eyes sparkle whenever he talks about them)...it seems as if he gave into temptation with Amber Heard and it's clear that he made the wrong choice and has/is/will be paying the price. Though I think all happens for a reason; it's pretty clear, at least in the realm of public opinion, he has won this case against Amber. This is not just his victory but a victory for humanity and the wrongfully accused--people will now think twice before they join a bandwagon. Anyways, as cliche and even goody goody as it sounds....marriage and family 👪 is the ultimate blessing from God...don't take it for granted folks.

  • @susanjohnston3627
    @susanjohnston3627 2 года назад +2

    It is really sad how Johnny's physical appearance changed so much in the short time he was with Amber Heard after this interview. From listening to the tapes in the divorce trial, it sounds like he went through hell. The poor guy was trying to keep up with someone 25 years younger, who turned out to be a spoiled, narcissistic little brat that loved arguing and fighting! When Johnny would not agree to to her divorce terms awarding her the penthouses, 50k a month in spousal support among other of Johnny's possessions, Amber told Johnny she would lie to the media and destroy him. She was able to fool the media, but not a jury of his peers or his loyal fans.

  • @glenndrexler1677
    @glenndrexler1677 4 года назад +3

    Brilliant actor!!, had it all, t
    Lost it all...

  • @lewisjohnson8297
    @lewisjohnson8297 2 года назад

    I grew up with the "that masked man" and his cleverer sidekick. JD's version required some adjustment time. Then, I laughed my butt off for the rest. "Dead Man Walking" was another one. Then again, I was lightly eccentric.

  • @jamesshearon8124
    @jamesshearon8124 11 лет назад +4

    Man, I've always wanted too be tonto! I have half Indian in me and Irish and scotach.