How To Install A Wall Mounted Toilet | This Old House
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- Опубликовано: 12 май 2024
- Richard assists hanging a wall mounted toilet during the rough plumbing stage.
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Wall mounted toilets are becoming more popular. Richard explains the advantages and works with plumber Josh Jordan to install the tank inside the wall.
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Better title may be "How to Rough a Wall Hung Toilet"
Correct I'd like to seen the complete install.
ruclips.net/video/DeW0CIAlbkA/видео.html
Erm... where’s the rest of the video?! That was useless.
ruclips.net/video/DeW0CIAlbkA/видео.html
Yep to install the finishing doesn’t look easy
Don't go into too much detail about installing the wall mounted toilet.
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@@julianreverse Thanks for the link. Cheers.
I think you may have forgot the last 5-6min of the video ?
It would have been nice to see the full install, sadly you suckered us into watching only half of the install.
Not cool toh
Henry Gonzalez You prolly wanna see someone take a dump too.
@@kevinhornbuckle please keep your grotesque comments to yourself, toh is s great channel and doesn't need your trashy comment on it's great platform,
The other half to my request is to see how the toilet is attached to the frame correctly.
Thank you for showing us all your ignorance.
Henry Gonzalez Everyone poops.
@@kevinhornbuckle you have only shown everyone that you are a fool
Henry Gonzalez Do you need me bring you some toilet paper?
I have yet to see anyone on RUclips take on a full conversion from floor mounted toilet to a wall mounted one. Its one thing to do a rough in for a bathroom that has no pre existing plumbing or various obsticles to overcome.
This has nothing on the space savings of my patent pending ceiling mounted toilet.
1985cjjeeper I but mine has more space saving than yours! Mine is roof mounted!
Nah, 5 gallon bucket is better! That way you can take it completely out of the room. Haha
@@dm7097 Very retro.
Hope you're going to be showing the _REST_ of the installation, soon! What I would like to know is, are those available with the tank mounted towards the TOP of the wall? That way you would get more of a gravity assist with the (so called) low-flow crappers.
Yeah, where’s the bowl at?
The cabinet for easy access to the tank?
The crawl space part to show the tie-in? 🤔
All that and I wanted to see what the toilet part looks like!
ruclips.net/video/DeW0CIAlbkA/видео.html
Thank you for the video, but a lot more detail would be appreciated. Thank you
Josh nicely done! WTF he just drill a hole and screw in 4 lag bolts.
Jajajajajaja 😂
From brazil, love the channel, want more content.
Start to finish would have been helpful.
Where's the rest of the video? This only shows about 1/4 of the installation...
Very Cool.
Didn't show you have to also adjust for the height of the toilet. Making sure the threaded rods the toilet bowl rides on are level. It certainly doesn't get installed in the 2 minutes this video makes you think.
I agree, I’ve installed dozens of these and the first thing to check, as you’ve said, is to adjust to the final finished tile floor height.
I also would put more than two lag bolts! You must put some bolts right at the top due to the force caused by say a 100kg human sitting on the cantilevered toilet.
Finally, installing the push buttons is a pain as it needs to sit flush on the vertical tile/plaster
It does come with a telescopic plastic shroud that can be easily trimmer though. Bit fiddly.
If possible, get a toilet pan with a “rimless” design. They work great and no places for germs to hide !
Very informative! If only in real time and real life I could install a toilet in 2:43 LOL!
Not a fan of wall hung toilets, that one with the mechs inside the wall sounds like a service nightmare. The main problems I've encountered are leaks from the bowl to wall flange connection, they are prone too fail due to movement of the toilet bowl. The bowl acts like a lever against the wall and can compromise that connection, especially in a ever heavier and aging population. Also their not very sanitary when the waste connection fails and sewage seeps into the wall.
I welded my own fixture. The tank is high on the opposite side of the wall. It flushes with a stick shift ball valve.
As was pointed out, make sure you vertically adjust the carrier for the rim height you want. We installed ours extra high ("comfort height").
We lover our two Geberit carriers mated with Duravit wall hung toilets. As noted in the video, easy to keep clean, and super solid mount on the wall.
Hi Ted - you've had the system for at least a few years now. Have you discovered any caveats? Thank you.
@@THE-APEX We still love the wall mount system. We've installed two of them in a remodel and also three more in a new home build when we moved during covid to be closer to family. After a few years of use, we are still 100% sold on the wall mount and would not use anything else.
@@tedbellWRV Thanks again Ted. I’m sold, thanks to you. I’ll get a Geberit system for our remodel. Enjoy the weekend!
@Navy1977, you must make sure the house framer properly places the studs. This means one stud full height in the wall on each side of the steel “carrier” frame. This can mean adding studs at the right locations, and removing a stud "in the way". If properly framed, double-studs are not necessary. The toilets are super solid when installed correctly. The “p-trap” is in the porcelain fixture - like all toilets. There is an access port for the toilet tank behind the flush plate. The plate removes easily to reveal the inner works. Access is easy - although a 2x6 framed wall allows you to use a deeper carrier, which gives a little more access space compared to a wall framed with 2x4 studs. Plumbing walls are often framed with 2x6s anyway to allow space for 4” vent stacks, or drain pipes from an upper floor. We’ve owned the Geberit/Duravit wall toilets for 5 years now in two houses. Both houses have very hard city water. They are still working great! Love that our vacuum/mopping robot (Roboroc) can easily clean the floor underneath the wall hung fixture!
Clearly the people at Toto haven’t met my mother-in-law
Who else wanted to see Josh give it a test run? 😥😥😥😜
Why must plumbing run through structural walls and joists? Why not add faux walls or other service cavities to accommodate it?
For anyone considering this
The most important part is to make sure the metal frame Is flush with the studs
If not,
The drywall may crack you tighten the bowl to the wall
Yeah I hadn't considered how the dry wall would go for this. Don't tell me that tank will be behind the dry wall?
@@jklax The tank goes in the wall. You have access to the flush valve mechanism through the hole which is ultimately covered by the flush plate where your high/low flush button are located.
Makes you wonder why they don't do a high-level cistern carrier. Would make for a more powerful flush and none of the obtrusion.
Is an angled-in lag screw actually secure?
Nothing is secure in this video. Don't do it like that. Even that 2x3.5 "frame" is ridiculous. Don't copy European building ideas into house made of sticks and particle boards glued with formaldehyde. Just don't and save yourself money.
How much is the drain out let ?
I mean the size of the pipes
Is the water hard piped to the tank? I assume theirs a neoprene donut gasket from the flange to the back of the toilet spud ?? Are their torque specs on the threaded rod when mounting it to the wall? Tighten up on your details because this was pretty useless.
Where does the camera go?
Pha Q Than perv much ?
Those wholes should have bin pre drilled to prevent splintering
you dont need a Vent?
I always wanted a hung toilet, I hate that wax ring nonsense. This doesn't go far enough, also would like to have known the disadvantages to this type of toilet. I didn't see a pee trap either? What will fail in this type of toliet?
I would say it has a trap built into the toilet like a floor mount would.
It doesn’t need a pee trap. The pee trap is the low water that’s always gonna be in the bowl, it’s different from traditional toilets and these work much better: less clogging, less water usage, no splash back, no leaks, and pretty much no maintenance. These are durable asf and won’t fail like traditional floor mounted toilets.
I have had these for ever 25 years now and not a single failure.
Notice how they furred out the wall to make it at 2x6 wall. this is highly recommended else you might be fighting it to fit.
What does it look like after the wall is finished?
It kinda looks like a public toilet without the pipes visible and closer to the wall. Search for "wall hung toilet" for examples. Good way to save space in a small bathroom. Too bad they didn't at least show an image of the complete install in this video.
I wonder if that style of toilet can be installed in a concrete blockwall.
No, it can’t. You need to flush out the wall with a false stud wall.
It is possible, you just need to mount wood on it first to than mount the carrier in between.
I have one of these in my house from the 80s. The tank was leaking from failed overflow and destroyed entire floor because it took years to notice the leak.
Thats why you have a drain opening at the bottom, so all leaks would run onto the floor and you can notice a leak. :)
@@aztex6981 There is no such a thing in hung toilet construction. At least not in Europe. Maybe Americans "invented" something...
What about maintenance? Tear up wall? Impact of drain line in wall on structural integrity?
No you can just slide up the flush buttons and take ever part out, and i have a geberit one that’s 17 years old and never needed service
@@miles5600 And you live in Europe?
waiting for part #2, pun intended.....
Many years ago, one of my 300+ pound friends said a commercial wall hung toilet broke off of the wall in a hospital while he was using it. What's the weight limit for these residential models?
Normal about 330lbs
The frame can hold 800 pounds so that’s the constructors fault
@@miles5600 lol.....
WHAT ABOUT THE ADJUSTABLE LIFT TOILET FOR VARIOUS PEOPLE HEIGHT?
No way that thing would hold josh
😂😂😂😂
😂😂 Ns
I prefer floor mounted toilet’s
No they aren’t from this century just get over that already
Can you hear it flush in the other room?
They are quiet so no
What!?
Why are plumbers such slobs?
No one couldn't clean out the wood shavings before you assembled the thing?
I don't know about those wall hung toilets. There are some real bears around here that I think might break the toilet off the wall.
Nah won’t happen
lol, all you did was drill a hole and drive some screws, where's the rest??
Shouldn't use chrome plated sockets in an impact driver, they can easily shatter.
So this water tank would be behind the dry wall? I don't get it.
You do get it
Want to save even more space ,get a toilet /vanity sink combined. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2:12 plumber for sure
Is this a urinal? If not, What’s the maximum weight person it can support?
Every wall mounted toilet sold in the US has to hold at least 500 pounds.
800 pounds is quite common.
I think that is way too close to the side wall... For a comfortable experience on the throne, you should have 15-30cm of space to each side. At least that is the recommended free space here (GER).
That's their least important problem with this installation.
For years? For decades!
There are some new technological innovations out there that are useful and make life easier. This is not one of them
Cause this isn’t new nor is it meant to make life more useful nor easier. It’s just a 21st century toilet that’s been popular in europe for the past 3 decades loll
Where's the video where he comes back to finish it?
Bad idea it won’t catch on in homes then when it breaks no parts to be found down the road. Seen lots of new things come along in 25 years of being a plumber and it’s sucks to tell homeowners sorry can’t get the parts anymore. Then it will become a huge process to do a floor mounted toilet.
It is just the US who is behind.
Wall mounted toilets are the standard here in Germany for at least 15 years.
Bullshit mate, just fit a decent brand like Geberit, after 20 years you can still get the parts.
@@MarcelHVAC right! I gave mine for 19 years and not a single service needed!
We have to wait for the drywall to go up and plaster before we see the final toilet install so we can see what it looks like. They could have shown the brochure picture at least.
Not a fan of workmen who don't bother to vacuum or sweep up the sawdust and debris before installing fixtures.
The most people in Germany have wall toilets 👍🏻
The whole world has
That plumber seemed a bit grouchy.
He probably wanted to show the entire process for the viewers and they said no lol
you do not show the right height that the toilet should be
💜💜💜💜
I have 8 in my house but we call them windows.
I missed the part where they install a wall mounted toilet. useless
you need a new camera man who actually shows the pertinent parts of th einstallation rather than the people who we don't need to see
Glad i am not trying to mount a toilet to the wall.
What? 😅 I didn't see nothing!
You could say that they had to "plumb" the plumbing.
That was pretty useless as to how to install the toilet, as this was just a quick rough in
This is pretty common in india. But in Australia we get toilets that was in india more than a decade ago.
Building industry here is a scam
These toilets have bern popular in ths Netherlands for the past 3 decades lolll
Hope the framers put some nails into the tops of those studs. That toilet is pulling them forward. Studs are supposed to work in compression. Not trying to be pulled out into the room. Ridiculous.
Agreed. Just before they cut the circular hole through the base plate when the camera was in the other room, it looked like they had originally framed the wall with 2x4s and realized afterwards that the 4" waste hole would overcut the studs and supplimented the wall thickness with 2x2s to effectively make a 2x6 wall frame. Why wasn't this originally done with 2x6s? Was the decision to use a wall mounted toilet done after initial signoff? I'm no contractor, but if it was, it seems like it would be a disqualifying change to the plans. I've had 100% non-structural changes denied by contractors because they required similar scope alteration, so it's a bit baffling that a potentially structural change like this which would require at minimum another review of load bearing capability of the plans was allowed to proceed.
Yes this isn’t right, normally they use 2 studs on either side. Here it’s just 1
Half an installation
That won't hold that plumber lol
Thats not a very "old house" type of toilet
Wall Mount toilets are better in steel frame buildings, wall hung toilets are not good for wood frame buildings. Flushometers and wall hung toilets are only in steel frame buildings, never in wood frame buildings.
But the US has 92 procent wooden houses
@@miles5600 You’re right, the majority of houses and apartments use wood framing, while most hotels and most restaurants use steel framing. All shopping centers, movie theaters, malls, stores, and office buildings use commercial steel framing. Hospitals use the strongest framing of all. Wall hung flushometer toilets are very common in the Target, Staples, TJ Max, Nordstrom, Macy’s, and office building public restrooms. I have also seen wall Mount flushometer toilets in hotel lobby restrooms too.
@@alecfrancis628but these aren’t flushometers. They just have the bowl mounted onto the wall with no carrier, here the carrier supports the bowl and this is the same case in europe, just a carrier bolted to wood framing.
Safet glasses and earplugs for working with a impact drill, what a joke
John seems like an interesting guy... not
You’ve got the wrong kind of window installed for a toilet 🚾 room as it should be a frost windows not a clear windows as people can see inside the room what you are up to.
Andrew George it’s on the second floor.
Curtains, they're called curtains.
thanks for showing absolutely nothing
On a recent trip to Germany, I stayed in two hotels and both had wall hung toilets. The phenomenon clearly missing in Germany is the obesity epidemic that we have in America. I wondered to myself, how will wall-hung toilets fare if routinely used by persons 300 pounds and up? A few years back I read an article noting that obese Americans were routinely ruining furniture on cruise ships.
One German hotelier says to the other, "soon we'll have that convention with 300 Americans staying with us for two weeks, we must have plumbers on call 24/7 for that duration".
300 lbs is not a problem.
500 pounds is the minimum weight limit In the US.
And 880 pounds (400Kg) in EU.
@@Jehty21wdym? These toilets are exactly the same as in europe. There’s not weight difference
@@miles5600 I assume that I looked up the weight limits and found the numbers I posted.
And I assume that you didn't look up the weight limits yourself?
So maybe you should start there?
@@Jehty21 i get what you’re saying but how would it make a difference? I’ve installed the same exact carriers in the netherlands where they have the same installation process with the sane materials. So how would it make such a drastic difference?
@@miles5600 well, I wrote "minimum weight limit".
So I was talking about the legal limit.
That doesn't mean that there are actual differences. Just that the laws/rules/norms are different.
In the EU it's EN 997. I don't feel like looking it up for the US.
This is dumb.
Isn’t that called a urinal lol
Anything is a urinal, if you're brave enough.
No?!? Look it up that’s something way different lol
*How To Install A Wall Mounted Toilet*
"Flush ... 💩 and add a "d" at the end of my name."
@Luc Carl 📷 😂
T-4-2Party-Original-Pepe🐸
First off, I love This Old House and I love America and Americans - so this isn’t a “I hate America comment” 😍
But, why are you guys so behind on this stuff? Is it that all American plumbing is just the same in all states and so it takes a lot to over done the inertia of doing something “new” ?
Why does it take so long for you guys to get things like instant water heaters (we call them Combi heaters) and then these wall hung toilets we’ve had for decades?
It’s a genuine question, wondering why it takes so long? Usually America is ahead on stuff.
Thanks 🙏
Inertia. People have been doing things a certain way for a long time, it's cheap and easy to continue doing things that way, and often the result is perfectly adequate. So there is little incentive to change, except for the luxury/high-end side of the market.
Maybe the fluoridated water??
Clickety Clack yep, makes sense.
To be honest it took me a while to move to them. Didn’t really think they’d hold up to the real fatty ppl :)
But they do, they are very very strong.
Cheers from 🇬🇧
There are downsides... first is cost: I can buy a contractor grade floor mounted toiled at a big box store for $99; residential wall mounted toilets *start* at $700. Second is they can only be mounted on an interior wall, but *many* American bathrooms are designed with the toilet on an exterior wall. Third issue isn’t inherently a problem with the toilet itself but rather the way Americans buy homes, which is the vast majority are pre-built, sold “ready to move in.” There is no incentive for a builder to build a house with a more expensive toilet because the rare customer who might want it probably won’t pay for it.
@@jpe1, Hit the nail on the head !