I want the rampage to come here so badly comma but they will certainly need a more basic version for a lower price point. I imagine they are also exploring their hybrid options as well if they want to directly compete with maverick
Ram needs to get their ass in gear if their bringing it to US shores because Toyota is likely bringing the upcoming compact Stout and Kia is bringing a small truck soon as well. It's sad Stellantis brought the Hornet and Wagoneer to showrooms before a possible compact Ram 🐏
The speculated USD pricing for the Rampage has me very confused. You can get a full size nice spec RAM 1500 for 50K. A entry level truck costing 50K makes 0 sense to me
2:05 Based on the trim level names the or’ve sounds right. 3:49.. ❤ 5:25 I’ve built&priced a few on the Brazil site. As of last week I don’t see tow hooks. 😔
The fact most of these people don't seem to realize the 50K pricing is not USA pricing, and it'll be cheaper when it's in the US. I'd predict it being around 24K to 30K max
Perhaps but pretty much a gurantee @ the dealer level - just like the Maverick - dealers will keep it $40,000+ with all their garbage add-ons. Plus it is more of a "toy" than anything considered a real truck. If it needs to constantly have a trailer behind it to haul anything such as say 4X8 sheets of plywood, lumber, ATVs-UTVs, etc. - pretty much a useless over priced toy as well as it should achieve 30+MPG "out the door" which it will not.
The narrator admitted the top end Ford Maverick Lariat sold for 244,890 Reals in Brazil, or roughly the same as the mid-level Dodge Rampage Laramie at 249,990 Reals. If this translates to the U.S. market expect a base trim Dodge Rampage to start $26k to $29k. Not cheap, but the base trim Rampage looks to be on par with the mid trim Ford Maverick XLT.
You are correct I am sure but the key word in your comment is "start". With as greedy as dealers are they will either order them or add to them after they arrive @ the dealership a bunch of non-needed "trinkets" such as Nitrogen in the tires - add on $299; paint protection @ $499 and so forth plus if they have any amount of popularity as the Maverick's had - just outright "market adjustments" @ say $5,000+. In the end there is the the "starting" price but then add a minimal of $10,000+ to that number on a minimal level. @@viper2148
I live in Brazil with my 2012 Charger SRT8 and i got excited until a saw the price... imagine paying 270k dollars in a compact pick up and over 550k on a 1500 Rebel, it's just absurd...
Wow. Ford is still "attempting" using a CVT. Last I heard - in any application - fail. Great MPG but the uncertainty of durability scares the crap out of me.Other observations - why does Rampage MPG in R/T form have such crappy MPG figure? HWY is only 23? With a 4 banger? I can get 20 MPG HWY in a HEMI RAM 1500. These numbers don't make alot of sense,
The Ford cvt is only in the hybrid front wheet drive. The maverick 2.0 AWD comes with a 8speed. He didn't give you all the information about the maverick.
You need to educate yourself man, Ford and Toyota used what's called E-cvts. These are basically on the opposite end of the durability scale than normal belt driven CVTs. Ford's e-cvt is far more reliable than a conventional automatic transmission. It's basically an automatic with a fraction of the moving parts, complexity, and heat. Everything about Ford's 2.5 hybrid system is bulletproof. It's been around for about 15 years, and regular lasts hundreds of thousands of miles. It's well known for lasting 400-600k miles in 2005-09 escape hybrid taxis.
@@themidnighttavern6784 Thanks for the education. I’m not thrilled about CVTs in general based on experience with the disaster MINI CVT. I’ve also heard / read of a lot of Maverick CVT owners complaining about the “droning” sounds of their CVT equipped trucks. Sorry but thought I’d add my 2 cents…..
@@bufjayup7774 The drone you're hearing people mention isn't a reliability issue. It's just because a CVT doesn't shift gears, sometimes when you're accelerating, it'll hold the engine RPMS at a certain level, with makes the engine sound stay the same, and kinda droning. Not really an issue.
The Rampage doesn't sound like it would be able to compete in the American market based on a few factors vs the Maverick. #1 would be the gas mileage #2 would be the base engine being a turbo diesel The interior doesn't need to be so upscale in a small truck. Redoing the interior for the American market would save Ram money and help lower the prices. A turbo diesel as a base engine on a compact pickup makes no sense. Diesel is expensive and has higher tax rates than regular unleaded. States such as California and Connecticut are considering increasing their diesel taxes. A N/A inline 4 with the right tuning that runs on regular unleaded is what the Rampage should come standard with. Another way Ram could save money and lower the prices in the American market is by making 4 wheel drive optional.
The Ram's styling and interior are miles above the stodgy Maverick, and I'm sure it will sell well, even if based on that alone. The engine and performance figures will probably get tweaked for the American market.
That's the interesting thing about taste. I think it looks unbelievably bad from the side with the body line cutting off the rear window, I wouldn't buy it unless it undercuts hard. 🤷♂
Eh, the maverick is the much better looking truck. As a maverick owner, I can say you can't really appreciate the mavericks subtle, but well executed design cues unless you spend a lot of time around it. It looks like a baby Rivian from the rear 3/4s angle imo.
No way it will be in the US anytime soon. Only plant making it is in Brazil and there would be a 25% import fee on it if built there. It would take time to get a plant set up in Mexico to avoid the tax. And they would have to gut it to get the price down to $30,000 - no leather, no standard ACC, rear sensors, no large entertainment screen, no digital dash, no 4x4 only AWD. Then there is no comparison with no hybrid and lower gas mileage.
With Ford stepping backwards and making the hybrid trim more expensive and still not producing more of those and instead focusing on the more expensive ecoboost model that not as many people want has pushed the maverick off the list for me. The RAM is likely to be pricier but does look more high end and packed with tech but im willing to hold out for the kia truck and stout. Those im hoping will stomp the current competition.
Ram all the way . I will pay more for a better truck ! Is the ford trying to be a Honda Ridgeline ( girl truck) ? Whats with the old tail lights ? Did ford take tail lights off of a 90’s exploder ? There is 1 thing i figured out about ford company is that they cut cost across the board and u can tell by the styling of the maverick . I would rather buy a Honda ridgeline over ford ( both girl trucks w front wheel drive bs )
You don't realize the ram rampage is a unibody FWD truck right? Love our maverick hybrid, we've owned midsized and full-sized trucks from basically all the major players, none of them can touch the maverick hybrid.
@@themidnighttavern6784 If gas milage is want u want and a better looking truck Honda Ridgeline ( still girl truck ) and if u want a bad copy of the Honda Ridgeline and possibly the ugliest wanna be truck made to date then more power to ya .
@@chrissullivan1756 If you think the maverick is the ugliest truck ever made, then you've never seen another truck in your life 🤣. But hey, enjoy wasting money on some hideous fullsize monstrosity like a Silverado 1500 or the Tundra. Now those are ugly trucks 🤣.
@@chrissullivan1756 I'll enjoy driving my girl truck for sure. Throw some gay jokes in there as well while you're at in. You conservative types are all the same, it's no wonder why your political party is dead, and why Trump will never win again.
@@themidnighttavern6784 btw full frame doesn’t matter if all around same payload and tow rating !! If u put more than that then truck wouldnt be able to handle it and blow engine or trans etc… so yes i do understand
It seems this Rampage is a compromise based on an aging platform, but compromise Ram North America must as it desperately needs a compact pickup like yesterday. The deciding factor is also its weak point which is being based off the Jeep Compass but the best case solution because it can be built in Mexico along side the Jeep and escap the chicken tax at a relative small investment. As this video demonstrates this Rampage checks too many must build boxes to be passed over and desperation cures all doubts and objections in short order. I too expect an announcement on the Rampage for North America which give Ram time to base the next generation on something more capable but the immediate infusion of a compact Ram pickup is too compelling to wait any longer. I’m betting on the Rampage coming soon to our market.
To the extent that this is an alternative to the Maverick at ALL, it is a luxury option for $20k more. Unfortunately, the Hyundai Santa Cruz is already the luxury option for just a couple thousand dollars more than the Maverick. At $20k more I'd be looking at an EV. Good luck with that Ram...
Quality? Youbdo realize Ram is number 2 in overall vehicle reliability and is winning awards with jd power. Dodge was first. Ford has been 15th to 26th consistently and has taken the title of king of recalls. Gm trucks were even worse. So Ram is by far the most reliable. And have you been inside a Ford? They're horrible compared to a Ram. Same with gm. There is a reason that if you see the pro rodeo circuit, there are more Rams than ford and gm combined. It's because you can't afford a breakdown when hauling livestock and people who understand this buy Ram. The others are just too loyal to care.
Ram is the way to go…👍🏻😎🇺🇸
Hell ya i agree . The ford looks like 90’s exploder lol
I want the rampage to come here so badly comma but they will certainly need a more basic version for a lower price point. I imagine they are also exploring their hybrid options as well if they want to directly compete with maverick
9:51 yes it’s definitely great enough to come here!!!
Ram needs to get their ass in gear if their bringing it to US shores because Toyota is likely bringing the upcoming compact Stout and Kia is bringing a small truck soon as well. It's sad Stellantis brought the Hornet and Wagoneer to showrooms before a possible compact Ram 🐏
I agree especially the wagoneer should've been pushed back to now if anything and the rampage should've been first
9:29 Payload ! 2,237 lbs!!! Holy!!! 😊
The speculated USD pricing for the Rampage has me very confused. You can get a full size nice spec RAM 1500 for 50K. A entry level truck costing 50K makes 0 sense to me
because markets are different, it'll be cheaper when it hits US shores
Also, he's converting Reales to USD and money conversion ain't that simple. For example, a PS5 and and an iPhone are twice the price in Brazil.
2:05 Based on the trim level names the or’ve sounds right. 3:49.. ❤ 5:25 I’ve built&priced a few on the Brazil site. As of last week I don’t see tow hooks. 😔
The fact most of these people don't seem to realize the 50K pricing is not USA pricing, and it'll be cheaper when it's in the US. I'd predict it being around 24K to 30K max
Perhaps but pretty much a gurantee @ the dealer level - just like the Maverick - dealers will keep it $40,000+ with all their garbage add-ons. Plus it is more of a "toy" than anything considered a real truck. If it needs to constantly have a trailer behind it to haul anything such as say 4X8 sheets of plywood, lumber, ATVs-UTVs, etc. - pretty much a useless over priced toy as well as it should achieve 30+MPG "out the door" which it will not.
The narrator admitted the top end Ford Maverick Lariat sold for 244,890 Reals in Brazil, or roughly the same as the mid-level Dodge Rampage Laramie at 249,990 Reals. If this translates to the U.S. market expect a base trim Dodge Rampage to start $26k to $29k. Not cheap, but the base trim Rampage looks to be on par with the mid trim Ford Maverick XLT.
You are correct I am sure but the key word in your comment is "start". With as greedy as dealers are they will either order them or add to them after they arrive @ the dealership a bunch of non-needed "trinkets" such as Nitrogen in the tires - add on $299; paint protection @ $499 and so forth plus if they have any amount of popularity as the Maverick's had - just outright "market adjustments" @ say $5,000+. In the end there is the the "starting" price but then add a minimal of $10,000+ to that number on a minimal level. @@viper2148
Real question, dakota where? I wont go compact, mid size sure but not compact
The Dakota will most likely be next year as a 2025. As an actual body on frame mid-size truck. It will be based on the Gladiator and the Ram 1500.
2:00 the side here looks identical to a Compass, pickup tho,
5:54 you can see where the width is more in the Maverick than the Rampage.
Maverick is killing it. Too bad I’m going to be in the market for an EV challenger come 2025.
@4:40 the Maverick width is 73.5” not 83.5”.
One of few FWD with low range.
I live in Brazil with my 2012 Charger SRT8 and i got excited until a saw the price... imagine paying 270k dollars in a compact pick up and over 550k on a 1500 Rebel, it's just absurd...
I've owned 2 1500's and 2 Dakota's...'89 and '97. The '97 was my favorite vehicle I've owned. Please, please, please, bring the Rampage R/T to me!
Bro I have a 96 Dakota 4x4 3.9 and also a 2004 Dakota 4x4 3.9 and my last is a 2018 Ram 1500 4x4 5.7 I love my Dodge Ram Trucks...
a rampage with the 3.0 i6 would be dope
If the ram comes to the states it will not have a diesel option
Can’t wait for the rampage
With all those angled views, the Rampage appears to be all cab, with little in terms of a bed.
The Dodge can tow a lot more and carry more even if bed seems shorter
Wow. Ford is still "attempting" using a CVT. Last I heard - in any application - fail. Great MPG but the uncertainty of durability scares the crap out of me.Other observations - why does Rampage MPG in R/T form have such crappy MPG figure? HWY is only 23? With a 4 banger? I can get 20 MPG HWY in a HEMI RAM 1500. These numbers don't make alot of sense,
The Ford cvt is only in the hybrid front wheet drive. The maverick 2.0 AWD comes with a 8speed. He didn't give you all the information about the maverick.
You need to educate yourself man, Ford and Toyota used what's called E-cvts. These are basically on the opposite end of the durability scale than normal belt driven CVTs.
Ford's e-cvt is far more reliable than a conventional automatic transmission. It's basically an automatic with a fraction of the moving parts, complexity, and heat. Everything about Ford's 2.5 hybrid system is bulletproof.
It's been around for about 15 years, and regular lasts hundreds of thousands of miles. It's well known for lasting 400-600k miles in 2005-09 escape hybrid taxis.
@@autotherapy6525The e-cvt in the maverick is also about as reliable as you can make a transmission.
@@themidnighttavern6784 Thanks for the education. I’m not thrilled about CVTs in general based on experience with the disaster MINI CVT. I’ve also heard / read of a lot of Maverick CVT owners complaining about the “droning” sounds of their CVT equipped trucks. Sorry but thought I’d add my 2 cents…..
@@bufjayup7774 The drone you're hearing people mention isn't a reliability issue. It's just because a CVT doesn't shift gears, sometimes when you're accelerating, it'll hold the engine RPMS at a certain level, with makes the engine sound stay the same, and kinda droning. Not really an issue.
0:42 Sweeet truck.
The Rampage doesn't sound like it would be able to compete in the American market based on a few factors vs the Maverick.
#1 would be the gas mileage
#2 would be the base engine being a turbo diesel
The interior doesn't need to be so upscale in a small truck. Redoing the interior for the American market would save Ram money and help lower the prices.
A turbo diesel as a base engine on a compact pickup makes no sense. Diesel is expensive and has higher tax rates than regular unleaded. States such as California and Connecticut are considering increasing their diesel taxes. A N/A inline 4 with the right tuning that runs on regular unleaded is what the Rampage should come standard with.
Another way Ram could save money and lower the prices in the American market is by making 4 wheel drive optional.
They need a rear locker option and work with AEV.
Umm? I want a less premium Ram Rampage with better fuel economy. They can do it. Call it a Ram Rampage SXT or Sport
Is the Rampage a compact truck OR a subcompact truck?
Mav is a subC.
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The Ram's styling and interior are miles above the stodgy Maverick, and I'm sure it will sell well, even if based on that alone. The engine and performance figures will probably get tweaked for the American market.
That's the interesting thing about taste. I think it looks unbelievably bad from the side with the body line cutting off the rear window, I wouldn't buy it unless it undercuts hard. 🤷♂
Eh, the maverick is the much better looking truck. As a maverick owner, I can say you can't really appreciate the mavericks subtle, but well executed design cues unless you spend a lot of time around it. It looks like a baby Rivian from the rear 3/4s angle imo.
You must be wearing Ford-colored glasses. The Maverick is bulbous, boxy, stodgy and just plain boring looking. @@themidnighttavern6784
No way it will be in the US anytime soon. Only plant making it is in Brazil and there would be a 25% import fee on it if built there. It would take time to get a plant set up in Mexico to avoid the tax.
And they would have to gut it to get the price down to $30,000 - no leather, no standard ACC, rear sensors, no large entertainment screen, no digital dash, no 4x4 only AWD. Then there is no comparison with no hybrid and lower gas mileage.
With Ford stepping backwards and making the hybrid trim more expensive and still not producing more of those and instead focusing on the more expensive ecoboost model that not as many people want has pushed the maverick off the list for me. The RAM is likely to be pricier but does look more high end and packed with tech but im willing to hold out for the kia truck and stout. Those im hoping will stomp the current competition.
Width for mav is 73 not 83
Ram all the way . I will pay more for a better truck ! Is the ford trying to be a Honda Ridgeline ( girl truck) ? Whats with the old tail lights ? Did ford take tail lights off of a 90’s exploder ? There is 1 thing i figured out about ford company is that they cut cost across the board and u can tell by the styling of the maverick . I would rather buy a Honda ridgeline over ford ( both girl trucks w front wheel drive bs )
You don't realize the ram rampage is a unibody FWD truck right? Love our maverick hybrid, we've owned midsized and full-sized trucks from basically all the major players, none of them can touch the maverick hybrid.
@@themidnighttavern6784 If gas milage is want u want and a better looking truck Honda Ridgeline ( still girl truck ) and if u want a bad copy of the Honda Ridgeline and possibly the ugliest wanna be truck made to date then more power to ya .
@@chrissullivan1756 If you think the maverick is the ugliest truck ever made, then you've never seen another truck in your life 🤣. But hey, enjoy wasting money on some hideous fullsize monstrosity like a Silverado 1500 or the Tundra. Now those are ugly trucks 🤣.
@@chrissullivan1756 I'll enjoy driving my girl truck for sure. Throw some gay jokes in there as well while you're at in. You conservative types are all the same, it's no wonder why your political party is dead, and why Trump will never win again.
@@themidnighttavern6784 btw full frame doesn’t matter if all around same payload and tow rating !! If u put more than that then truck wouldnt be able to handle it and blow engine or trans etc… so yes i do understand
It seems this Rampage is a compromise based on an aging platform, but compromise Ram North America must as it desperately needs a compact pickup like yesterday. The deciding factor is also its weak point which is being based off the Jeep Compass but the best case solution because it can be built in Mexico along side the Jeep and escap the chicken tax at a relative small investment. As this video demonstrates this Rampage checks too many must build boxes to be passed over and desperation cures all doubts and objections in short order. I too expect an announcement on the Rampage for North America which give Ram time to base the next generation on something more capable but the immediate infusion of a compact Ram pickup is too compelling to wait any longer. I’m betting on the Rampage coming soon to our market.
Sad to say i would pick the Maverick
It's a great truck, ours is averaging over 43 MPG in mostly stop and go driving.
I think the Rampage can definitely compete in the US. Sure on paper the Maverick is better, but Ford seems uninterested in actually building any...
If either car changed from a lame transmission dial to a shifter - it would sell more.
Let me see an unreliable dodge or even a less reliable Ford...sure I'll get right on that 😂😂😂
To the extent that this is an alternative to the Maverick at ALL, it is a luxury option for $20k more. Unfortunately, the Hyundai Santa Cruz is already the luxury option for just a couple thousand dollars more than the Maverick. At $20k more I'd be looking at an EV. Good luck with that Ram...
It sounds like you’re trying to sell the Ford?
They have to get the price way down 🎉 they are ripping off the people.
Ripping off people !!!??? How is that ?? U get what u pay for . If ur cheap then buy a pos ford
And the Maverick has an eCVT like Toyota that is better than the old style CVT.
They should call it the Ram Explorer. Cause that's what the front grill looks like. Bawahahahahhaa!!! Another fail by Stellantis.
Drop the I6 in it and we have a winner
Maverick blows this truck out of the water 😂 Stellantis will have another slow seller to add to the top 10 list.
No, I think the Maverick has the edge in performance and mpg. Quality of finish and reliability is an issue for both brands to concentrate on.
Quality? Youbdo realize Ram is number 2 in overall vehicle reliability and is winning awards with jd power. Dodge was first. Ford has been 15th to 26th consistently and has taken the title of king of recalls. Gm trucks were even worse. So Ram is by far the most reliable. And have you been inside a Ford? They're horrible compared to a Ram. Same with gm. There is a reason that if you see the pro rodeo circuit, there are more Rams than ford and gm combined. It's because you can't afford a breakdown when hauling livestock and people who understand this buy Ram. The others are just too loyal to care.
@@sonsofliberty3081
Read Consumer Reports.
The Ram looks so much better ! The ford look’s like 90’s exploder tail lights . The ford is so ugly !!!
Dodge, Chevy mohawk😅