Hand operated 'slam' door trains... sometimes passengers would try to alight too soon and the train would still be travelling so fast that when they try to jump to the ground and run they end up falling over instead (often hurting themselves too). There were times when I boarded a train that had started leaving a station... then stand on the footboard and open a door to enter the carriage. Especially at stations where the BR train pulled away just as the underground train arrived.
Lovely video - brings back memories! I can just about remember catching the - then steam-hauled - shuttle from Greenford to Ealing Broadway in the early 1950s. I do think this is an under-used link - why isn't it part of the 'Overground'? - like the Romford-Upminster branch? It could even be joined to the rest of the Overground network via a really useful link up the incline connecting Acton Mainline to Willesden Junction...
I hadn't realised what a steep drop there is for westbound Central Line trains approaching the platform (even allowing for the foreshortening effect of looking along the line of the track).
@@CitytransportInfoplus I'm sure you're right. Normally they avoid a downhill slope into a platform where they can (it increases the risk of a train overshooting the platform and consequent delays while the operator asks permission from the controller to back up), but I guess they didn't have much choice here.
thanks for this info... maybe its to do with the single person operation? certainly its a sign of present-day madness, since the station was expressly designed to offer cross-platform interchange on both sides of the train using the centre track.
Not anymore. Nowadays if you have a prepaid Travelcard season or day ticket which is valid in the relevant fares zones then you can travel on this train at no extra cost. Also, if you have an Oystercard which is used in PrePay / Pay As You Go mode then as long as the card was 'touched-in' at the start of the journey then you can travel on this train. But as its a mainline train you might find that you are charged the mainline fare scale which is usually higher than the London Underground fare scale. If you have any sort of mainline railway 'ride at will' ticket which is valid in London (especially the all-line Rover and tickets aimed at overseas visitors, such as the BritRail Pass) then you can also travel in this train - but its important to note that these tickets are not normally accepted on London Underground trains.
Great video and most informative captions. Well done and thank you. I travelled from W.Ealing to W. Ruislip last year. is there any traffic on the NR line parallel to the LU Central line? I mean the one with the semaphore signals. I came back to Marylebone and presumably my train would have used a different route? Did it perhaps veer off at Northolt Junc.?
The route was used for a parliamentary train from Paddington to maintain route knowledge and for diversions. It was closed a few years back to make way for the crossrail depot. Now the diversion route involves turning off the NR line at Greenford and following the Greenford branch to the GWML, another parliamentary train follows this route as far as West Ealing. As for Marlybone trains, they turn off after South Ruislip
Greenford hasn’t changed much except a new incline lift that replaced the wooden escalator. Perhaps London Overground could take over the branch line that goes between West Ealing and Greenford and to import new trains to inherit the Class 230s to operate on the Greenford branch line.
The DfT is sponsoring a trial using Vivarail battery electric former D Stock trains on this route. This will include battery top-up charging at West Ealing station. I am not sure exactly when it will start, it might even be later this year (2021). Trains will continue to be operated by GWR as part of the existing mainline railway franchise. I am not sure if the trains will be known as Class 230 as thats a number scheme for diesel powered trains. The isle of Wight Vivarail trains are Class 484 - although those are third rail electric.
It says at 11.32 that the 165's have only ever been allowed to open the doors on one side of the train. This is not the case as i remember both side's being opened up until just before 2010 or there about, iv'e never asked or been told as to why only one side is used now tho
+Peter Hanahoe Its a while since I was last here and think the station starter for the service to Paddington via Ealing has now been replaced by a colour light signal, but am not sure about the semaphore signals on the main line tracks pass the station.
Very interesting video! Also interesting at the start of the video when Passengers could open the doors before the train stopped, then the platform edges were modified, then the yellow line painted on some years later, typical nanny state features gradually appearing. Nice capture!
yes, from West Ealing station on the Great Western Main Line. If my memory is correct this service does not run on Sundays. btw, historically, the mainline railway steam train services were coming here for decades before the Central Line.
Love the sound of the DMU and the 1962 stock. Reminds of my childhood!
I agree - the train sounds are wonderful. Especially with the older S-VHS footage I used a high quality plug-in microphone
Hand operated 'slam' door trains...
sometimes passengers would try to alight too soon and the train would still be travelling so fast that when they try to jump to the ground and run they end up falling over instead (often hurting themselves too).
There were times when I boarded a train that had started leaving a station... then stand on the footboard and open a door to enter the carriage. Especially at stations where the BR train pulled away just as the underground train arrived.
Lovely video - brings back memories! I can just about remember catching the - then steam-hauled - shuttle from Greenford to Ealing Broadway in the early 1950s. I do think this is an under-used link - why isn't it part of the 'Overground'? - like the Romford-Upminster branch? It could even be joined to the rest of the Overground network via a really useful link up the incline connecting Acton Mainline to Willesden Junction...
Excellent footage of old dmu's especially of the diverted chiltern line to Paddington train at speed
Wonderful selection of clips. I have always thought the platform at Greenford was unique, and you have really captured some great footage here.
You've made a happy man very old! Superb extra footage and brings back lots of memories
I hadn't realised what a steep drop there is for westbound Central Line trains approaching the platform (even allowing for the foreshortening effect of looking along the line of the track).
yes, it needs a telephoto lens to fully appreciate this - almost certainly its caused by the need to go over the shuttle service track
@@CitytransportInfoplus I'm sure you're right. Normally they avoid a downhill slope into a platform where they can (it increases the risk of a train overshooting the platform and consequent delays while the operator asks permission from the controller to back up), but I guess they didn't have much choice here.
Back in the 1990s, they let the passengers get off the train before it stops. Now, they wait for it to stop. Big improvement
Thanks for the upload and for letting me know that you were going to post this video
Thanks for the upload and for letting me know taht you were going to post this video
When i was on the shuttle in 2018, the 165 livery was GWR
thanks for this info... maybe its to do with the single person operation? certainly its a sign of present-day madness, since the station was expressly designed to offer cross-platform interchange on both sides of the train using the centre track.
I think you should go back there now they've finished the incline lift replacing the wooden escalator
+hakc97again I was only there a few weeks ago, investigating what was happening!
It's a pity that the last wooden escalator is gone.
@@hakc97again but think back to kings cross 1987..
very nice good shots
That "bing-bong" at 2:12 - I had forgotten all about that! Am I right that it was for line-specific announcements?
Central Line 1962 Tube Stock
Central Line 1992 Tube Stock
and now today its as far as west Ealing
13:42 There's now a modern signal nowadays at that station (not bulb but LED)
Bloke just standing there with a foot an inch above platform level like fuck you i do what i want.
could you do some videos on bus stations?
Do London Underground passengers have to pay a separate fare to ride the shuttle?
Not anymore. Nowadays if you have a prepaid Travelcard season or day ticket which is valid in the relevant fares zones then you can travel on this train at no extra cost.
Also, if you have an Oystercard which is used in PrePay / Pay As You Go mode then as long as the card was 'touched-in' at the start of the journey then you can travel on this train. But as its a mainline train you might find that you are charged the mainline fare scale which is usually higher than the London Underground fare scale.
If you have any sort of mainline railway 'ride at will' ticket which is valid in London (especially the all-line Rover and tickets aimed at overseas visitors, such as the BritRail Pass) then you can also travel in this train - but its important to note that these tickets are not normally accepted on London Underground trains.
And I am quite sure that the shuttle had special fares at this time to match central line fares
Great video and most informative captions. Well done and thank you. I travelled from W.Ealing to W. Ruislip last year. is there any traffic on the NR line parallel to the LU Central line? I mean the one with the semaphore signals. I came back to Marylebone and presumably my train would have used a different route? Did it perhaps veer off at Northolt Junc.?
The route was used for a parliamentary train from Paddington to maintain route knowledge and for diversions. It was closed a few years back to make way for the crossrail depot. Now the diversion route involves turning off the NR line at Greenford and following the Greenford branch to the GWML, another parliamentary train follows this route as far as West Ealing. As for Marlybone trains, they turn off after South Ruislip
Thank you very much for that information.
Thanks for that info.
I like the new video, thanks Simon
Greenford hasn’t changed much except a new incline lift that replaced the wooden escalator. Perhaps London Overground could take over the branch line that goes between West Ealing and Greenford and to import new trains to inherit the Class 230s to operate on the Greenford branch line.
The DfT is sponsoring a trial using Vivarail battery electric former D Stock trains on this route. This will include battery top-up charging at West Ealing station. I am not sure exactly when it will start, it might even be later this year (2021). Trains will continue to be operated by GWR as part of the existing mainline railway franchise.
I am not sure if the trains will be known as Class 230 as thats a number scheme for diesel powered trains. The isle of Wight Vivarail trains are Class 484 - although those are third rail electric.
It says at 11.32 that the 165's have only ever been allowed to open the doors on one side of the train. This is not the case as i remember both side's being opened up until just before 2010 or there about, iv'e never asked or been told as to why only one side is used now tho
Love this video, have the semaphores gone yet?
+Peter Hanahoe Its a while since I was last here and think the station starter for the service to Paddington via Ealing has now been replaced by a colour light signal, but am not sure about the semaphore signals on the main line tracks pass the station.
+citytransportinfo Thanks for that, it is at least 20 years since I was there.
Peter Hanahoe some of the semaphores remain but the one on the right platform has gone
citytransportinfo why did 4 passingers open the slam Door before the tran stopped
6:30 When was this filmed? In the late 90's?
yes, late 1990's.
Very interesting video! Also interesting at the start of the video when Passengers could open the doors before the train stopped, then the platform edges were modified, then the yellow line painted on some years later, typical nanny state features gradually appearing. Nice capture!
cool
Didn't realise that this station also had mainline trains, do they still operate?
yes, from West Ealing station on the Great Western Main Line. If my memory is correct this service does not run on Sundays.
btw, historically, the mainline railway steam train services were coming here for decades before the Central Line.
@@CitytransportInfoplus hmm interesting, I will have to check it out sometime!
is the middle platform class 115 a sub train?