Evercade shipped their handheld during the pandemic. The Evercade VS was announced after the pandemic started and is now shipping. For $100 you get the console, one controller, and eight games. For the "deluxe" bundle you get two controllers and 18 games for $130. It has similar power (it's a low-cost ARM SoC) as the Amico. And ironically, one of the most requested features that supporters (who pre-ordered and crowdfunded) of the Amico asked for was a game pack of the original Intellivision titles. That game pack has not even been announced for the Amico (just a "something we're looking into") but IS already available on the Evercade.
Fascinating to see how much money Oculus lost when I now know many people who picked one up in the last 6 months! Great video analysis as usual Lon. Really enjoyed this video 👍
Thanks! I am sure that a lot of those losses are due to R&D for whatever they're cooking up next. But definitely shows you how much has to be put into a product before it "sticks!"
@@LonSeidman if this analogy is true about system placement.. then why has Apple always been the running joke that people can't play games on Macintosh? If that system has such a huge user base I would think developers would be flocking over to release Unity ports just to have their game sold fast on a system with software drought.
@@Paperclown Mac's represent only 10% of PC sales (if that) and require a lot of work to get running as well as their PC equivalents. It's even tougher now that Apple is running ARM.
The only success that I can think of in this segment is the Evercade. The main reason for that is that Evercade has been very wise about the game collections they've released.
True - I think they approached the market realistically and shipped a product before asking people for money. Same is true of Hyperkin, at games, etc. not always the best quality but they don’t put the risk on customers and are realistic about the market size.
@NZ Retro Magazine I think they're a little different because they're not developing games on a new platform. But it does go to show that not trying to do too much is the key to being at least somewhat successful
Just wish they released a slightly more powerful system with a new controller with analogue controls so it could do Saturn,PSone, N64 and Dreamcast.i had a BLAZE gaming tablet a few years ago and it could handle PSone games fine
New Amico CEO Phil Adams announced recently that the console and games will get a price increase. $300-$350 for a 2016 cell phone processor and $15 -$20 for free-to-play 2005 flash mobile games that offer 5 mins of boring repetitive single stage gameplay. overpriced. underpowered. gimmick controller. crowdfunded. delayed 3 times. 4 rounds of investment funding. Amico's previous CEO has lies to investors, used stolen artwork for games, threatens to sue journalists, threaten critics DOX critics used words like "gaming racists" "Nintendo p e do rape games" Phil Adams was VP of Business Development for Coleco Chameleon (famous scam console).
Hey Lon, Im 64 I sold those original Intellivision units and games, Atari 400, and Atari 800 units there were a few more I cant remember the names I think Colecovision had a unit too. Magnavox had a game unit too. Those were the fun years. I love watching your channel never know what im gonna see.
it does not help the Amico that the games look no better than cell phone games, and that Tommy Tallarico has been overly harsh to say the least to anyone who has criticism of the Amico, or anything/anyone surrounding it. Having said that when I first heard about the Amico I was a bit excited as I'm one of those 40 year olds whose first console was an Intellivision, but after seeing all this drama, and it still not being released after all these years, I no longer want anything to do it with it, and they won't be getting a dime of my money.
The whole Amico venture has been a business school course on the consequences of poor business and financial planning, and inept corporate leadership. The metrics have pointed to Intellivision's eventual insolvency for at least the last 18 months.
The Raspberry Pi, which isn't even a "game console" has had a MUCH larger disruptive mark on the game market than any of those failed attempts at capitalizing on the retro gaming market.
Back in the 80's our cable company offered an Intellivision console connected to a modem, connected to the cable system. You could download games and play them. The games would change month to month. I never had the service, but it didn't last that long. The cable company ended up giving me a bunch of those consoles. I made sure they worked and passed them out to families in this area. They bought their own cartridges. Seeing the Intellivision in this video reminded me of this. I had an Atari back in the seventies with a bunch of games. I lost interest in the early 80's when I got a ViC20 and started writing BASIC software. That is my stroll down memory lane tonight.
That is so cool! I had no idea they were doing games over cable that early. I was jealous of the people that had access to the Sega channel on the Genesis.
@@LonSeidman I wasn't around for the Sega Channel, but I'm annoyed by it on principle because no one played the games that got stranded on it in North America, and as a result no one here knows how good Golden Axe III is. It's the best one by the way.
Actually they are. Snapdragon updates each line of their chips every year. So if they are using an old chip from 2016, sourcing new ones might not be easy, and replacing them with newer low end chips like SD 400 series might mean other changes. Sitting on a tech device is never good. Which is why I’m surprised Odin went with a SD 845. They must have found a stack lying around for really cheap, and built around that. As it’s a niche and they don’t need to prep more than a few 10k units.
You cover a lot of the many, many reasons this project was doomed from the outside quite thoroughly. The entire idea seems to only ever have existed because Tommy's ego demanded it, of all things seemingly because he was inspired by Mike Kennedy of Coleco Chameleon fame's two failed console projects and decided Tommy the rockstar could make it happen. To add another to your list of problems with his grand vision another big one is that the Amico is utterly off-the-shelf, it has no custom silicon and runs Android games that are developed in Unity, nor do IE have any patents filed. Even if they had tapped a market with the potential for Tommy's _preposterous_ 25,000,000+ units prediction (a number he personally quoted in investment pitches) there was no way they could stop a bigger company knocking an Amico-alike out in a year or so at a lower price with more and better software and licenses and drowning them.
Launching a major market console with exclusive IPs, sufficient advertising, right performance/build and pricing, and broad market availability is an endeavor in the $200m+ range, not a $5m project.
I didn’t even know Intellivision was still a thing, let alone that $250 price??? They set themselves up for failure with that one, that’s near switch / switch lite prices
Hardware development for video games is useless outside of established brands and manufacturers. Software is where the money potentially is. Apple, Google or LG could possibly do something successful with hardware but probably won't. The market is already oversaturated with well known and high quality establishment brands. A new player in the market would essentially have to substantially undercut or practically give away hardware to compete at this point. That $250 price point for a start up with licenced IP is doing it all wrong!
It's just a name. Lots of old brands are used in licensing deals now. The amusing part is there was an attempt to resurrect the Colecovision brand and that was an epic scam and failure. Now, they're traveling the same path with the other '80s Atari competitor Intellivision. It's really quite remarkable. And, yeah, the price is a problem. If the price is too close to the Switch or other systems, why wouldn't anyone just get one of those?
All this, and it doesn't even have face buttons. Just for a simple matter of opinion: I don't think the Amico deserves anything resembling respect. It's a vortex of suck when you look at the connections and associations. Tommy endorsed Mike Kennedy's Intellivision Gen 2, Phil Adam worked on the Coleco Chamelon, so when you sit back and think about it, it's an Ouroboros of grift and failure. Some pointers: The rights to Intellivision were less _sold_ to Tommy & Co as much as he waited for the final founder to die off before he picked at the bones. He was even making deals at the guy's funeral. You don't _need_ an operating system to drive a touchscreen, but what they did was basically give you two cellphones with none of the advantages of them. The Amico, unlike the Switch _isn't portable._ And this is a point I feel should slam the brakes for many people. Can't exactly advertise true roof party couch co-op when you have to drag an unsightly footspa around. 10,000 preorders is a vast overestimation. Realistic estimates based on actual data points and not spoonfed propaganda are somewhere in the range of 5000 and falling. You know, lower numbers than the Tapwave Zodiac or Gizmondo. The best that Intellivision had was a reboot of a long dead platformer from the grossout 90s, and a port of Toejam & Earl. Both of those are off the table. All that's left are the worthless party games and remakes of terrible old games you've probably never heard of; the sort of tat that gets bundled into game packs of 12 or so "party" games. Fourth delay. Plus, the Intellivision was announced in 2018. They've had a long [expletive] time to get their ducks in [added expletive] order. Don't excuse them via the pandemic lest we forget the Playdate, Evercade, Amiga Mini, Steam Deck, and several more projects of similar cloth. Maybe is firmly off the table. You don't take a loan of 100$ per console (in addition to similar bad deals) and then push full steam ahead. The console is dead, long live the console. Not just -3.2m$. And remember, that's only YTD up to 2021. We don't actually know how dire their _current_ finances are, and it's going to be like pulling teeth to figure it out, given how cagey they've been over just about everything. But their finance officer has time to try and spit on Mark Hamill, so you know. Can't be that bad. The Ouya also had competent PR and marketing. The Amico's PR consisted of the former CEO belittling anyone who didn't see his absurd dream, and the marketing has consisted of greasing the palms of sub-basement channels to proselytize the Amico in a cultlike fashion. Now _Amazon's_ problem was more the good ole Google issue: _Throw money at the problem until it stops being a problem. If problem persists, shrug and give up._ It proved that beyond a doubt, that just because a company has billions, doesn't mean they can disrupt the market. ...Though the Shield _does_ live on. The Switch was as a known secret, directly based off it.
I always thought that companies like Intellivision and Atari should have offered these to be incorporated into certain smart TVs or Roku devices. I'd definitely want a TV (or Roku) that had a Microsoft Cloud Gaming app AND something like Intellivision built into it. Intellivision would probably sell more hardware peripherals and games through Samsung, LG, etc. than through an actual piece of console hardware.
Quite frankly, the Nvidia Shield is my main console at this point. Between Geforce Now, Xbox Game Pass and even Stadia to a lesser extent, the Shield is all I need for my gaming needs. I rarely even touch my Playstation anymore. And honestly, I find the Shield controller to be one of the most comfortable out there...
There's a lot you can say about this Amico mess, and you covered a lot of aspects of it very well in the video. Just looking at the hardware itself, for a system that is/was supposed to be simpler and less expensive than the main consoles -- if it costs anywhere near those, people will get those -- it sure has complicated controller designs. I get that typical game controllers have been fairly expensive in the last few generations, but it seems to me including touch screens will drive up costs. Perhaps that would be a wash since it eliminates many buttons other controllers have. Then of course, you'd have to convince the type of people who'd consider buying this console, with branding from 40 years ago, that touch screens are totally better than buttons. Good luck with that. I think trying to put a modern spin on the old Intellivision controllers was a terrible idea anyway, which is a good indication of bad leadership, but then this was a bad idea overall and it likely won't matter in the end since it's doomed.
I remembered a company trying to launch a mini drone few years ago. They had a lot of investors on kickstarter. But they were not able to deliver the products. Later on, they issued a statement and declared bankruptcy. Reason: they picked a wrong material for the frame of the drone. The drone became too heavy and it only last a couple of minutes flight per full battery charge. But they already produced thousands of wrong drone frames already!
Another thing to note is that even the major console makers - Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft, when they first launch new console hardware they are sold at a loss, because they sell them for under the price it costs to manufacture them, but then make up the lost money through software sales. Obviously a much smaller kickstarter isn't going to have the luxury of doing that.
Half right, Nintendo has always made a profit on the hardware as well,the Nintendo switch at launch was making a £25 profit per unit and that's probably gone up with "economy of scale"
I think the Shield is the closest thing to the idea of the Ouya. It's is or was a beast for it's time and they do have AAA games ported to android. The openness of the Atari VCS intrigues me but it seems to have a bit of an identify crisis, still kinda cool.
How is this delay due to the pandenic????? GPD, Ayo neo, Atari ACS, Amiga mini all these got made during the pandemic so that’s a baseless argument sorry. Love the channel and the video, I just DON’T buy that this latest delay can be blamed on the pandemic and not on incompetence of Amico’s executives.
Yeah, blaming things on the "pandemic" doesn't work any more. That died out in 2021 if not earlier. For me working in software, I lost ZERO productivity by working from home in 2020 and since (something I have been doing off and on for a loooong time anyway).
There are companies struggling with component shortages (even big automakers). Smaller electronics companies like Analogue have really struggled to get things out the door. I'd imagine Intellivision is in the same boat - although looking at their poor management it's probably that plus a lot of incompetence fueling their issues.
@@LonSeidman I can agree with the combination of mismanagement and supply shortages, but it’s appears worse when you find out they are in litigation with a former hardware supplier. I missed the Oculus part till I watched a second time. Amazing video
i purchased an nvidia shield to my mother to avoir ISP fees in france (5 or 10 $ per month to watch tv). but nvidia server not work everyday, device don't turn on, hundred of bugs, and no alternative except smart tv with embedded android OS.
Thanks for explaining. I always wondered why Sega isn't trying a comeback, but now I understand better how this market is incredibly hard or I would say impossible to get a foot in.
I could've easily seen the Amico just thrown on endcaps at a Kohl's and sold for like a hundred bucks. Then again, even at Kohl's I'm sure you have huge companies bidding for shelf space. At the end of the day, this thing really should either not exist, or it should've just been a controller for an existing platform.
I have been fascinated by this train wreck. When you put those numbers into perspective and all the other failed consoles it's so crystal clear how bad of an idea this was from the onset.
I honestly thought the Amico might make it but the last couple of years things seemed to go from bad to worse. Tommy apparently caused a lot of unnecessary drama, childish back and forth with Pat and Ian which was painful to watch on both sides. I notice a lot of schadenfreude watching this thing crash and burn. Ah well for the best I suppose. This thing was going to be way too expensive for what you get
anything with new earthworm jim on it is destined to fail and never be released. nothing earthworm jim ever ships they talk about it for years then it dies on the vine.
Of all the consoles, the Nvidia Shield TV is the most heartbreaking. Soo much potential, crippled by Google's apathetic attitude towards android tv. Nvidia would do well to divert that ARM money to buy some studios instead, and further miniaturize the X1 chip into a formidable gaming phone
Not yet but I hope Google keeps their players whole when it falls apart. It looks like they may offer this as a service layer so it's conceivable they'll be able to retain access to existing game sales.
1:04 not entirely true. At least a couple of the Blue Sky Rangers (original intellivision employees) are involved with Amico. Bill Fisher for example is still working at Amico. So it's not really accurate to say they didn't have anything to do with the console.
if only they used all that money they grifted and actually made some consoles to prove its worth instead of renting offices worldwide and employing them for no fucken reason now those are closed up and money's all gone and no real working consoles are to be found
I was excited when I first heard about the amico. I watched some short gameplay videos on it. However as time went by I became less interested in this boondoggle. It's controllers are dumb for most action games. The system has no games. Earthworm Jim has had zero gameplay shown. So much potential wasted on this device. I doubt it ever comes out. Not enough money and interest from the general public.
@@ccateni28 The Alienware Alpha was one of several, including Steam Machines from Gigabyte, iBuyPower, Origin PC, Zotac, Maingear, etc. None of them were successful, which is the point of this video (and my comment).
@@asdfrozen Most of those were windows based. Yes, Steam OS was at least on the Alpha, but it barely got released with the steam os they kept mentioning.
@@ccateni28 Like the Alpha, these came with an option for Windows or Steam OS. Most people chose Windows because of familiarity and a wider selection of games (something that Valve has worked tirelessly to address to great success). And yes, they were barely released, which is the point.
I will never throw my money to a go fund for this inventions I think that the creators, developers don’t put as much effort due the money doesn’t come from their pocket Cause they feel that if they need anything else for their device just run more crowdfunding campaign so people put more money for their tests/mistakes Fuck it they can crowdfunding me I think an idea, devices, should come from your own pocket how? is hard? Well you have to fight for your creation if that means they have to work their ass off in a factory or save on their own to be real entrepreneurs
Great points. This video was honest and unbias. You used facts not emotions to discuss this topic. The only disagreement I might have is these retro console could have success but as a niche console. Like the NES classic, Arcade 1up machines, and Evercade. Trying to be in the same neighborhood as the big 3, is a losing venture.
Oh no, the Amico cult is gonna call Lon a hater 🤣 Jokes aside though, I'm really starting to doubt the Amico will even get on the shelf. At least now you can point an Ouya to a third-party server and get new stuff, and genuinely if you can put Windows 10 on a VCS I might consider getting one at a sale price. If you wanna survive long term you gotta invest for the long term, think about tomorrow's tomorrow not yesterday.
then again the switch had this problem on launch being that there was no backwards compatibility and you could just play botw on the wii u if you wanted to.
Truth is, it's nigh impossible for anybody to break out with a new console, much less a crowd funded. Google put all the money in the world with Stadia and still can't do anything with it.
Never heard of some of these consoles like Ouya and the Shield. I have an Atari VCS. It’s fun, but I have to wonder how long the console will live if they can’t sell more units.
The fact that facebook is loosing money from the oculus quest really surprised me. However I think facebook will eventually make a profit from oculus, considering how big facebook is and how much money they're able to throw at it. As well as the fact that the oculus quest 2 is probably the best afordable vr headset available right now.
I really wish some of these were lessons given to future investors. It's so frustrating to see these levels of mismanagement still gain enormous investment dollars. As long as you come with enough bluster and your business plan I guess things will work out...
Check out the VCS performance again - for 300 its beating the doors off the Mac Mini I was previously going to upgrade to, at a third the price (and I get to keep a wintel architecture even tho I'm on Linux for using Proton). I'm typing on it right now (Ubuntu rocks - and is essentially being used as my Steam Deck ahead of the Steam Deck - which oddly enough, people are going crazy over. But I'm using it the same way they will (and me, I put a deposit down too) - except I've been doing the same for over a year (and I won't see mine come off the waiting list till at least the end of this year - making it 2 years nearly). The only major difference between the VCS and Steam Deck is the cores and channels which are 2X the VCS (but is a very new custom Ryzen imp for the form-factor). The Steam Deck also doesn't have exclusives - but who cares. Even Microsoft is getting out of that concept with their multiplatform 'game pass'. Nintendo will always rule the exlusive IP roost anyway (deservedly so). Last I checked Amico did NOT get 10k pre-orders. That was just (yet) another lie from Tommy.
I think what's keeping the VCS afloat is that people are buying it primarily to use as a PC vs. a game console :). It was smart on their part to do that. I think the Steam Deck is attractive for the same reason - I am sure that many will install Windows on it to use Game Pass.
Never going to buy anything online unless it exists. I don’t understand this idea of buying something before it’s made and hoping that after you pay they will start working. It either exists or it doesn’t. If it exists, and it’s interesting, I’ll buy it. If it’s a final hurdle where a comic artist have finished their graphic novel and they just need cash to print it, that’s fine, and there are exceptions, but tech? It’s just too much of a risk. And I see too often people just throw money at these things and get nothing in return.
I feel so bad about Amico console. I really, really, REALLY wanted it to survive, it looked pretty cool at start (unfortunately with the latest gameplay videos it showed the games were mediocre at best), and was having high hopes. Oh well!
I'd say it was doomed from the start wqith the people behind it, I mean when your CEO is a composer and not a business man you will have problems. Honestly, if you was a true retro console, get an Evercade VS. they're a fraction the price, have classic and indie games and they actually delivered
Investing in the gaming market is silly. As a consumer, a PC + Epic Game Store gives you weekly free games. Add Amazon Prime and the number of free games is ridiculous. Don't get me started with Game Pass. Where is the potential revenue for a publisher unless you are already a giant? Sure, there is money to be made, but there are sooooo many other markets to explore if you are simply looking to invest. Invest in real estate, commodities, etc. Gaming is a terrible investment, IMO.
So today, Ouya has a cult following who enjoy challenging themselves with Ouya game jams, but this was only possible with the help of passionate fans. Atari VCS, despite being blatantly meant as a scam, released and while no one ever expects it to ever be successful or even profitable (especially the current CEO), it's become a sort of direct feedback system for Atarigrames to use to communicate with fans and is also just a nice and attractive mini PC for Atari fans nowadays. I think the Nvidia Shield family is the saddest case of all. All of their efforts into making these 3 consoles were stunted with support being cut short every single time, even faster than Sony killed the Vita, with only the TV console being allowed to continue living a second life as just a streaming box. Nvidia also pushes out the WORST final updates for all of them, breaking them in ways that seem almost abusive and then making it difficult for custom ROMs to be made to keep these devices alive and comfortable to use. And then there's the games that their employees and the employees of various game studios worked hard to bring to the Shield console family. You would have to be very lucky to find many that still work properly.
I think that’s why these little guys are selling their consoles at these prices. The big three can afford to sell consoles at a loss where the little guys can’t afford to do that.
Mr. Intellivision Keith Robinson. He kept Intellivision going for years. I also would go online to intellivision website and read about Keith Robinson there was no Facebook or Twitter or anything like that at the time. So from time to time I would go online to Intellivision website to get information about new products from intellivision. I loved that intellivision was going to port games to ps2 and xbox which was cool. On June 14.2017 Keith Robinson passed away he was 61. Now I don't think The rest of the intellivision crew did not know what to do? If Keith Robinson mr. Intellivision I wonder how he would respond to how Tommy Tallarico and company running the company. I am sure Keith Robinson is turning in his grave and very upset how Tommy running his company and name into the ground and really just ripping the intellivision franchise into a Embarrassing situation of unprofessional businesses matter. They maybe great music writers and music composers and have great games like earthworm jim and spot but really don't know how to run a company. They have so much Talent but to run a company that could be a great company if they just did it right which I mean like this. First if I was Tommy Tallarico I would hired someone who knew the business like someone from Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo. Then hired someone to be a CEO who has years of experience in this type of business. Then hire a public relations person to online or go on interviews with RUclips and order to get exposure. Hire accounting and layers and buy computers parts instead of android phone parts Then hire designers to design a sleek looking console. And show off your console in real life send it to popular gamers to rate your console and show what's under the hood. Then I would start out small maybe pre-order a hundred then once I start paying off my debts make more pre-orders than do special edition consoles and colors and maybe some kind of graphics on it. Will I feel bad for all those people who invested into Intellivision Amico. I feel bad for Keith Robinson intellivision may just go out of business and the name would just disappear for ever. The man's Legacy will just go under and everyone will remember it as a scammer machine and Tommy Tallarico. But no one really remembers Keith Robinson a intellivision programmer who worked for Mattel Electric he brought intellivision and kept it alive from 1980s to 2017 that's a long time.
TBF the last time Nintendo tried to sell a console purely on the strength of their Games it was the Wii U. You can’t fall behind the power curve without offering some unique use case that people actually want. Still more successful than almost anything in this video though.
Meh, Nintendo really messed up the Wii U’s library. Nintendoland, NSMBU and wii fit weren’t going to sell the system. Mario 3D land came too late. The gamepad use case wasn’t compelling enough as an idea even when done well on the Wii U, and the best games on the system barely use it.
crowd funding is interesting but I would never support one. if established companies aren't immune to struggle and have failures with new products, someone brand new will have far larger hurdles to overcome. that's a liability I wouldn't want to be a part of.
@@LonSeidman Yes sadly the official server did get shut down rather quick. But thankfully fan run servers picked up where they left off. It is a rather small OUYA community remaining. But can't say the console isn't still getting love to this day. I bet OUYA 2 would actually meet fundraising goals. Despite all the failures people still cling to the idea of a Console made by gamers for gamers. Instead of console that is designed to make money by business investors.
Is the Amico going to fail though? I did get my refund in May 2020 as they had my money for almost a year by then and very little news and updates so I got a refund but I do own a t-shirt. I needed the money for GPD Win Max which I later sold to buy the Onexplayer. The games will be budget price thats the draw. You can use your smart phone for extra players. Wait I didnt know the CEO changed? :( Hard to say it but Tommy Tallarico is not new to over selling and trying really hard to do something new. He clearly wants to get back to music and not managing a company. I hope Earthworm Jim game is still happening. I tried to talk to Amico fan boys years ago very dismissive lot and horrid group, I was right to get a refund in 2020.
The Amico situation has been a complete mess from day one that has been flying under the radar, with almost everything that was initially promised turning out to be either mismanaged or an outright false promise. Earthworm Jim is not happening for undisclosed reasons. Some of the games that were claimed to be "exclusive" are not exclusive at all, like Evel Knievel is a mobile game that is available. Some of the brands they were supposed to be working with like MLB never had deals. The physical media turned out to not be real game cartridges. Instead they only have download links. I'm barely scratching the surface. A lot of the details paint Tommy Tallarico in a very bad light.
They've been constantly delaying the system, and it hasn't even begun production yet. They're struggle just to get the OS running, and the games for it made. Now they're hemorrhaging money, and need to cough up millions of dollars JUST to keep the company alive for a few more months. As if that wasn't bad enough, they would owe $100 for each system sold which means they either sell it at a loss (which they can't afford to at this point), or jack the prices up (which they can't afford to at this point). To say things are a mess is putting it nicely.
no mention about this being backed by a known rasict and homophobe and not like "he made a joke on twitter" more like "he has a podcast where he calls jews rats and proudly accepts the label of homophobe"
Thanks for letting me know about this Intellivision Amico console. Somehow it slipped past my radar.
You should make a video about it.
😂 Careful not to upset their Creative Director, I've heard he is passionate about this.
Ever consider taking up podcasting?
@@olly7 Yea interested in his take.
If intellivision goes under what will happen to the name intellivision ? Will it go up for sell ?
They did not get "10000 preorders." They got 6000 and rounded up. Now sitting around 5000 after cancellations.
Evercade shipped their handheld during the pandemic. The Evercade VS was announced after the pandemic started and is now shipping. For $100 you get the console, one controller, and eight games. For the "deluxe" bundle you get two controllers and 18 games for $130. It has similar power (it's a low-cost ARM SoC) as the Amico. And ironically, one of the most requested features that supporters (who pre-ordered and crowdfunded) of the Amico asked for was a game pack of the original Intellivision titles. That game pack has not even been announced for the Amico (just a "something we're looking into") but IS already available on the Evercade.
The Evercade straight up ate the Amico's lunch.
@@SomeOrangeCat Evercade showed tommy how to run a company properly.
Not sure what you mean by Shovel Knight “still” being exclusive to FireTV but that game is on just about everything
It was never exclusive to fireTV,it was "exclusive" to Windows ,3DS and the Wii U for about 6 months 😂😂
Fascinating to see how much money Oculus lost when I now know many people who picked one up in the last 6 months! Great video analysis as usual Lon. Really enjoyed this video 👍
Thanks! I am sure that a lot of those losses are due to R&D for whatever they're cooking up next. But definitely shows you how much has to be put into a product before it "sticks!"
@@LonSeidman if this analogy is true about system placement.. then why has Apple always been the running joke that people can't play games on Macintosh? If that system has such a huge user base I would think developers would be flocking over to release Unity ports just to have their game sold fast on a system with software drought.
@@Paperclown Mac's represent only 10% of PC sales (if that) and require a lot of work to get running as well as their PC equivalents. It's even tougher now that Apple is running ARM.
The only success that I can think of in this segment is the Evercade. The main reason for that is that Evercade has been very wise about the game collections they've released.
and theres actually a system to play the games on...the biggest most important thing LOL
True - I think they approached the market realistically and shipped a product before asking people for money. Same is true of Hyperkin, at games, etc. not always the best quality but they don’t put the risk on customers and are realistic about the market size.
The Evercade knew their niche and executed it well. The Amico doesn't know their target audience and bungled development in every aspect.
@NZ Retro Magazine I think they're a little different because they're not developing games on a new platform. But it does go to show that not trying to do too much is the key to being at least somewhat successful
Just wish they released a slightly more powerful system with a new controller with analogue controls so it could do Saturn,PSone, N64 and Dreamcast.i had a BLAZE gaming tablet a few years ago and it could handle PSone games fine
New Amico CEO Phil Adams announced recently that the console and games will get a price increase. $300-$350 for a 2016 cell phone processor and $15 -$20 for free-to-play 2005 flash mobile games that offer 5 mins of boring repetitive single stage gameplay.
overpriced. underpowered. gimmick controller. crowdfunded. delayed 3 times. 4 rounds of investment funding. Amico's previous CEO has lies to investors, used stolen artwork for games, threatens to sue journalists, threaten critics DOX critics used words like "gaming racists" "Nintendo p e do rape games"
Phil Adams was VP of Business Development for Coleco Chameleon (famous scam console).
>Phil Adams was VP of Coleco Chameleon
Yikes! 🚩🏴☠️🚩
That's insulting to flash games😂
Sorry to reply to an old comment, while the processor probably released in 2016, it's basically on par with something from 2013.
Hey Lon,
Im 64 I sold those original Intellivision units and games, Atari 400, and Atari 800 units there were a few more I cant remember the names I think Colecovision had a unit too. Magnavox had a game unit too. Those were the fun years. I love watching your channel never know what im gonna see.
Awesome! Yes Colecovision had the Adam computer- it was all inclusive and even came with a printer!
it does not help the Amico that the games look no better than cell phone games, and that Tommy Tallarico has been overly harsh to say the least to anyone who has criticism of the Amico, or anything/anyone surrounding it.
Having said that when I first heard about the Amico I was a bit excited as I'm one of those 40 year olds whose first console was an Intellivision, but after seeing all this drama, and it still not being released after all these years, I no longer want anything to do it with it, and they won't be getting a dime of my money.
3:16 They have a 1.4M dispute with an electronic part supplier... that doesn't sound like a chip shortage LOL
The whole Amico venture has been a business school course on the consequences of poor business and financial planning, and inept corporate leadership.
The metrics have pointed to Intellivision's eventual insolvency for at least the last 18 months.
But they have 600 years of experience between them!
The Raspberry Pi, which isn't even a "game console" has had a MUCH larger disruptive mark on the game market than any of those failed attempts at capitalizing on the retro gaming market.
Back in the 80's our cable company offered an Intellivision console connected to a modem, connected to the cable system. You could download games and play them. The games would change month to month. I never had the service, but it didn't last that long.
The cable company ended up giving me a bunch of those consoles. I made sure they worked and passed them out to families in this area. They bought their own cartridges. Seeing the Intellivision in this video reminded me of this. I had an Atari back in the seventies with a bunch of games. I lost interest in the early 80's when I got a ViC20 and started writing BASIC software. That is my stroll down memory lane tonight.
That is so cool! I had no idea they were doing games over cable that early. I was jealous of the people that had access to the Sega channel on the Genesis.
@@LonSeidman Atari had a similar service. There was a modem cartridge you could get for the 2600 that would plug into the phone line to download games
@@LonSeidman I wasn't around for the Sega Channel, but I'm annoyed by it on principle because no one played the games that got stranded on it in North America, and as a result no one here knows how good Golden Axe III is. It's the best one by the way.
Who knew 6 year old budget extremely low end cell phone processors would be so hard to source HAHAHAHAHAHH
Actually they are. Snapdragon updates each line of their chips every year. So if they are using an old chip from 2016, sourcing new ones might not be easy, and replacing them with newer low end chips like SD 400 series might mean other changes. Sitting on a tech device is never good.
Which is why I’m surprised Odin went with a SD 845. They must have found a stack lying around for really cheap, and built around that. As it’s a niche and they don’t need to prep more than a few 10k units.
You cover a lot of the many, many reasons this project was doomed from the outside quite thoroughly. The entire idea seems to only ever have existed because Tommy's ego demanded it, of all things seemingly because he was inspired by Mike Kennedy of Coleco Chameleon fame's two failed console projects and decided Tommy the rockstar could make it happen. To add another to your list of problems with his grand vision another big one is that the Amico is utterly off-the-shelf, it has no custom silicon and runs Android games that are developed in Unity, nor do IE have any patents filed. Even if they had tapped a market with the potential for Tommy's _preposterous_ 25,000,000+ units prediction (a number he personally quoted in investment pitches) there was no way they could stop a bigger company knocking an Amico-alike out in a year or so at a lower price with more and better software and licenses and drowning them.
Great video
Launching a major market console with exclusive IPs, sufficient advertising, right performance/build and pricing, and broad market availability is an endeavor in the $200m+ range, not a $5m project.
I didn’t even know Intellivision was still a thing, let alone that $250 price??? They set themselves up for failure with that one, that’s near switch / switch lite prices
Hardware development for video games is useless outside of established brands and manufacturers. Software is where the money potentially is. Apple, Google or LG could possibly do something successful with hardware but probably won't. The market is already oversaturated with well known and high quality establishment brands. A new player in the market would essentially have to substantially undercut or practically give away hardware to compete at this point. That $250 price point for a start up with licenced IP is doing it all wrong!
It's just a name. Lots of old brands are used in licensing deals now. The amusing part is there was an attempt to resurrect the Colecovision brand and that was an epic scam and failure. Now, they're traveling the same path with the other '80s Atari competitor Intellivision. It's really quite remarkable. And, yeah, the price is a problem. If the price is too close to the Switch or other systems, why wouldn't anyone just get one of those?
All this, and it doesn't even have face buttons.
Just for a simple matter of opinion: I don't think the Amico deserves anything resembling respect. It's a vortex of suck when you look at the connections and associations. Tommy endorsed Mike Kennedy's Intellivision Gen 2, Phil Adam worked on the Coleco Chamelon, so when you sit back and think about it, it's an Ouroboros of grift and failure.
Some pointers: The rights to Intellivision were less _sold_ to Tommy & Co as much as he waited for the final founder to die off before he picked at the bones. He was even making deals at the guy's funeral.
You don't _need_ an operating system to drive a touchscreen, but what they did was basically give you two cellphones with none of the advantages of them. The Amico, unlike the Switch _isn't portable._ And this is a point I feel should slam the brakes for many people. Can't exactly advertise true roof party couch co-op when you have to drag an unsightly footspa around.
10,000 preorders is a vast overestimation. Realistic estimates based on actual data points and not spoonfed propaganda are somewhere in the range of 5000 and falling. You know, lower numbers than the Tapwave Zodiac or Gizmondo.
The best that Intellivision had was a reboot of a long dead platformer from the grossout 90s, and a port of Toejam & Earl. Both of those are off the table. All that's left are the worthless party games and remakes of terrible old games you've probably never heard of; the sort of tat that gets bundled into game packs of 12 or so "party" games.
Fourth delay. Plus, the Intellivision was announced in 2018. They've had a long [expletive] time to get their ducks in [added expletive] order. Don't excuse them via the pandemic lest we forget the Playdate, Evercade, Amiga Mini, Steam Deck, and several more projects of similar cloth.
Maybe is firmly off the table. You don't take a loan of 100$ per console (in addition to similar bad deals) and then push full steam ahead. The console is dead, long live the console.
Not just -3.2m$. And remember, that's only YTD up to 2021. We don't actually know how dire their _current_ finances are, and it's going to be like pulling teeth to figure it out, given how cagey they've been over just about everything. But their finance officer has time to try and spit on Mark Hamill, so you know. Can't be that bad.
The Ouya also had competent PR and marketing. The Amico's PR consisted of the former CEO belittling anyone who didn't see his absurd dream, and the marketing has consisted of greasing the palms of sub-basement channels to proselytize the Amico in a cultlike fashion.
Now _Amazon's_ problem was more the good ole Google issue: _Throw money at the problem until it stops being a problem. If problem persists, shrug and give up._ It proved that beyond a doubt, that just because a company has billions, doesn't mean they can disrupt the market.
...Though the Shield _does_ live on. The Switch was as a known secret, directly based off it.
I always thought that companies like Intellivision and Atari should have offered these to be incorporated into certain smart TVs or Roku devices. I'd definitely want a TV (or Roku) that had a Microsoft Cloud Gaming app AND something like Intellivision built into it. Intellivision would probably sell more hardware peripherals and games through Samsung, LG, etc. than through an actual piece of console hardware.
Quite frankly, the Nvidia Shield is my main console at this point. Between Geforce Now, Xbox Game Pass and even Stadia to a lesser extent, the Shield is all I need for my gaming needs. I rarely even touch my Playstation anymore. And honestly, I find the Shield controller to be one of the most comfortable out there...
There's a lot you can say about this Amico mess, and you covered a lot of aspects of it very well in the video. Just looking at the hardware itself, for a system that is/was supposed to be simpler and less expensive than the main consoles -- if it costs anywhere near those, people will get those -- it sure has complicated controller designs. I get that typical game controllers have been fairly expensive in the last few generations, but it seems to me including touch screens will drive up costs. Perhaps that would be a wash since it eliminates many buttons other controllers have. Then of course, you'd have to convince the type of people who'd consider buying this console, with branding from 40 years ago, that touch screens are totally better than buttons. Good luck with that. I think trying to put a modern spin on the old Intellivision controllers was a terrible idea anyway, which is a good indication of bad leadership, but then this was a bad idea overall and it likely won't matter in the end since it's doomed.
Hard to believe an outdated consolized smartphone would fail.
Great take. Agreed the addition of screens is a gigantic hurtle that has complicated the entire process… among a whole lot of other things.
I remembered a company trying to launch a mini drone few years ago. They had a lot of investors on kickstarter. But they were not able to deliver the products. Later on, they issued a statement and declared bankruptcy. Reason: they picked a wrong material for the frame of the drone. The drone became too heavy and it only last a couple of minutes flight per full battery charge.
But they already produced thousands of wrong drone frames already!
I think that was the Zano drone? I lost some money on that one.
Another thing to note is that even the major console makers - Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft, when they first launch new console hardware they are sold at a loss, because they sell them for under the price it costs to manufacture them, but then make up the lost money through software sales. Obviously a much smaller kickstarter isn't going to have the luxury of doing that.
Half right, Nintendo has always made a profit on the hardware as well,the Nintendo switch at launch was making a £25 profit per unit and that's probably gone up with "economy of scale"
@@TheGingerburger No, even Nintendo has launched systems at a loss in the past, the 3DS being a great recent example.
The bottom line is: "Content is always King"
Shovel Knight has been available on almost every system for years. Never even heard about exclusivity to Amazon...
Yes but the Android version was exclusive to the FireTV and only through the Amazon app store.
@@LonSeidman thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering what that meant
I think the Shield is the closest thing to the idea of the Ouya. It's is or was a beast for it's time and they do have AAA games ported to android. The openness of the Atari VCS intrigues me but it seems to have a bit of an identify crisis, still kinda cool.
I literally was just searching for the amico on youtube right now, Lon.
I read your mind before you even thought about it!
How is this delay due to the pandenic????? GPD, Ayo neo, Atari ACS, Amiga mini all these got made during the pandemic so that’s a baseless argument sorry.
Love the channel and the video, I just DON’T buy that this latest delay can be blamed on the pandemic and not on incompetence of Amico’s executives.
Yeah, blaming things on the "pandemic" doesn't work any more. That died out in 2021 if not earlier. For me working in software, I lost ZERO productivity by working from home in 2020 and since (something I have been doing off and on for a loooong time anyway).
There are companies struggling with component shortages (even big automakers). Smaller electronics companies like Analogue have really struggled to get things out the door. I'd imagine Intellivision is in the same boat - although looking at their poor management it's probably that plus a lot of incompetence fueling their issues.
@@LonSeidman I can agree with the combination of mismanagement and supply shortages, but it’s appears worse when you find out they are in litigation with a former hardware supplier. I missed the Oculus part till I watched a second time. Amazing video
It looked like a bathroom appliance for holding soap bars. They couldn't get it squared away. Shame.
i purchased an nvidia shield to my mother to avoir ISP fees in france (5 or 10 $ per month to watch tv). but nvidia server not work everyday, device don't turn on, hundred of bugs, and no alternative except smart tv with embedded android OS.
Thanks for explaining. I always wondered why Sega isn't trying a comeback, but now I understand better how this market is incredibly hard or I would say impossible to get a foot in.
Way more money for them in software!
I could've easily seen the Amico just thrown on endcaps at a Kohl's and sold for like a hundred bucks. Then again, even at Kohl's I'm sure you have huge companies bidding for shelf space. At the end of the day, this thing really should either not exist, or it should've just been a controller for an existing platform.
I have been fascinated by this train wreck. When you put those numbers into perspective and all the other failed consoles it's so crystal clear how bad of an idea this was from the onset.
I honestly thought the Amico might make it but the last couple of years things seemed to go from bad to worse. Tommy apparently caused a lot of unnecessary drama, childish back and forth with Pat and Ian which was painful to watch on both sides. I notice a lot of schadenfreude watching this thing crash and burn. Ah well for the best I suppose. This thing was going to be way too expensive for what you get
anything with new earthworm jim on it is destined to fail and never be released. nothing earthworm jim ever ships they talk about it for years then it dies on the vine.
Of all the consoles, the Nvidia Shield TV is the most heartbreaking. Soo much potential, crippled by Google's apathetic attitude towards android tv.
Nvidia would do well to divert that ARM money to buy some studios instead, and further miniaturize the X1 chip into a formidable gaming phone
Awesome video. Do you have a take with Google and Stadia?
Not yet but I hope Google keeps their players whole when it falls apart. It looks like they may offer this as a service layer so it's conceivable they'll be able to retain access to existing game sales.
1:04 not entirely true. At least a couple of the Blue Sky Rangers (original intellivision employees) are involved with Amico. Bill Fisher for example is still working at Amico. So it's not really accurate to say they didn't have anything to do with the console.
if only they used all that money they grifted and actually made some consoles to prove its worth instead of renting offices worldwide and employing them for no fucken reason now those are closed up and money's all gone and no real working consoles are to be found
There is no way we will see this company on Shark Tank.
Haven't watch you for a while, nice see you still in healthy shape Lon.
I was excited when I first heard about the amico. I watched some short gameplay videos on it. However as time went by I became less interested in this boondoggle. It's controllers are dumb for most action games. The system has no games. Earthworm Jim has had zero gameplay shown. So much potential wasted on this device. I doubt it ever comes out. Not enough money and interest from the general public.
Don't forget Steam Machines.
It seems like gaming handhelds are doing much better.
That wasn't even a thing...
The alpha was the only one "released" and barely...
@@ccateni28 The Alienware Alpha was one of several, including Steam Machines from Gigabyte, iBuyPower, Origin PC, Zotac, Maingear, etc. None of them were successful, which is the point of this video (and my comment).
@@asdfrozen Most of those were windows based.
Yes, Steam OS was at least on the Alpha, but it barely got released with the steam os they kept mentioning.
@@ccateni28 Like the Alpha, these came with an option for Windows or Steam OS. Most people chose Windows because of familiarity and a wider selection of games (something that Valve has worked tirelessly to address to great success). And yes, they were barely released, which is the point.
Im getting an Evercade 👍
I will never throw my money to a go fund for this inventions I think that the creators, developers don’t put as much effort due the money doesn’t come from their pocket
Cause they feel that if they need anything else for their device just run more crowdfunding campaign so people put more money for their tests/mistakes
Fuck it they can crowdfunding me I think an idea, devices, should come from your own pocket how? is hard? Well you have to fight for your creation if that means they have to work their ass off in a factory or save on their own to be real entrepreneurs
Nvidia Shield is successful though, it's the best android box by a mile and geforce streaming is really good to.
Successful as a streaming box - not as a game console.
@@LonSeidman true enough. I never thought of it as a game console but maybe it was advertised as such just never noticed.
You absolutely know gaming. Much respect.
Great points. This video was honest and unbias. You used facts not emotions to discuss this topic. The only disagreement I might have is these retro console could have success but as a niche console. Like the NES classic, Arcade 1up machines, and Evercade. Trying to be in the same neighborhood as the big 3, is a losing venture.
Oh no, the Amico cult is gonna call Lon a hater 🤣
Jokes aside though, I'm really starting to doubt the Amico will even get on the shelf. At least now you can point an Ouya to a third-party server and get new stuff, and genuinely if you can put Windows 10 on a VCS I might consider getting one at a sale price. If you wanna survive long term you gotta invest for the long term, think about tomorrow's tomorrow not yesterday.
Keep up the great work
They will always fail as there is no back catalogue to play while waiting for new games to be made.
then again the switch had this problem on launch being that there was no backwards compatibility and you could just play botw on the wii u if you wanted to.
Truth is, it's nigh impossible for anybody to break out with a new console, much less a crowd funded. Google put all the money in the world with Stadia and still can't do anything with it.
Never heard of some of these consoles like Ouya and the Shield. I have an Atari VCS. It’s fun, but I have to wonder how long the console will live if they can’t sell more units.
can u run ps1,dc and other emulators on it?
The fact that facebook is loosing money from the oculus quest really surprised me. However I think facebook will eventually make a profit from oculus, considering how big facebook is and how much money they're able to throw at it. As well as the fact that the oculus quest 2 is probably the best afordable vr headset available right now.
Sega could no longer do it - so you got to wonder why others think they can.
Tommy Telltalerrico
We need the Loncade! That would make it!
I really wish some of these were lessons given to future investors. It's so frustrating to see these levels of mismanagement still gain enormous investment dollars. As long as you come with enough bluster and your business plan I guess things will work out...
Check out the VCS performance again - for 300 its beating the doors off the Mac Mini I was previously going to upgrade to, at a third the price (and I get to keep a wintel architecture even tho I'm on Linux for using Proton). I'm typing on it right now (Ubuntu rocks - and is essentially being used as my Steam Deck ahead of the Steam Deck - which oddly enough, people are going crazy over. But I'm using it the same way they will (and me, I put a deposit down too) - except I've been doing the same for over a year (and I won't see mine come off the waiting list till at least the end of this year - making it 2 years nearly).
The only major difference between the VCS and Steam Deck is the cores and channels which are 2X the VCS (but is a very new custom Ryzen imp for the form-factor).
The Steam Deck also doesn't have exclusives - but who cares. Even Microsoft is getting out of that concept with their multiplatform 'game pass'. Nintendo will always rule the exlusive IP roost anyway (deservedly so).
Last I checked Amico did NOT get 10k pre-orders. That was just (yet) another lie from Tommy.
I think what's keeping the VCS afloat is that people are buying it primarily to use as a PC vs. a game console :). It was smart on their part to do that. I think the Steam Deck is attractive for the same reason - I am sure that many will install Windows on it to use Game Pass.
Never going to buy anything online unless it exists. I don’t understand this idea of buying something before it’s made and hoping that after you pay they will start working. It either exists or it doesn’t. If it exists, and it’s interesting, I’ll buy it.
If it’s a final hurdle where a comic artist have finished their graphic novel and they just need cash to print it, that’s fine, and there are exceptions, but tech? It’s just too much of a risk. And I see too often people just throw money at these things and get nothing in return.
Very informative video Lon. Great job!
I feel so bad about Amico console. I really, really, REALLY wanted it to survive, it looked pretty cool at start (unfortunately with the latest gameplay videos it showed the games were mediocre at best), and was having high hopes. Oh well!
I'd say it was doomed from the start wqith the people behind it, I mean when your CEO is a composer and not a business man you will have problems.
Honestly, if you was a true retro console, get an Evercade VS. they're a fraction the price, have classic and indie games and they actually delivered
Investing in the gaming market is silly. As a consumer, a PC + Epic Game Store gives you weekly free games. Add Amazon Prime and the number of free games is ridiculous. Don't get me started with Game Pass. Where is the potential revenue for a publisher unless you are already a giant? Sure, there is money to be made, but there are sooooo many other markets to explore if you are simply looking to invest. Invest in real estate, commodities, etc. Gaming is a terrible investment, IMO.
So today, Ouya has a cult following who enjoy challenging themselves with Ouya game jams, but this was only possible with the help of passionate fans. Atari VCS, despite being blatantly meant as a scam, released and while no one ever expects it to ever be successful or even profitable (especially the current CEO), it's become a sort of direct feedback system for Atarigrames to use to communicate with fans and is also just a nice and attractive mini PC for Atari fans nowadays. I think the Nvidia Shield family is the saddest case of all. All of their efforts into making these 3 consoles were stunted with support being cut short every single time, even faster than Sony killed the Vita, with only the TV console being allowed to continue living a second life as just a streaming box. Nvidia also pushes out the WORST final updates for all of them, breaking them in ways that seem almost abusive and then making it difficult for custom ROMs to be made to keep these devices alive and comfortable to use. And then there's the games that their employees and the employees of various game studios worked hard to bring to the Shield console family. You would have to be very lucky to find many that still work properly.
It takes billions of dollars to compete with the big 3 (Nintendo, playstation,Xbox)
I think that’s why these little guys are selling their consoles at these prices. The big three can afford to sell consoles at a loss where the little guys can’t afford to do that.
This is a very well/researched video. Thx !
Great analysis Lon...well done.
Mr. Intellivision Keith Robinson.
He kept Intellivision going for years.
I also would go online to intellivision website and read about Keith Robinson there was no Facebook or Twitter or anything like that at the time. So from time to time I would go online to Intellivision website to get information about new products from intellivision. I loved that intellivision was going to port games to ps2 and xbox which was cool.
On June 14.2017 Keith Robinson passed away he was 61. Now I don't think The rest of the intellivision crew did not know what to do?
If Keith Robinson mr. Intellivision I wonder how he would respond to how Tommy Tallarico and company running the company. I am sure Keith Robinson is turning in his grave and very upset how Tommy running his company and name into the ground and really just ripping the intellivision franchise into a Embarrassing situation of unprofessional businesses matter. They maybe great music writers and music composers and have great games like earthworm jim and spot but really don't know how to run a company.
They have so much Talent but to run a company that could be a great company if they just did it right which I mean like this. First if I was Tommy Tallarico I would hired someone who knew the business like someone from Sony or Microsoft or Nintendo. Then hired someone to be a CEO who has years of experience in this type of business. Then hire a public relations person to online or go on interviews with RUclips and order to get exposure. Hire accounting and layers and buy computers parts instead of android phone parts
Then hire designers to design a sleek looking console. And show off your console in real life send it to popular gamers to rate your console and show what's under the hood. Then I would start out small maybe pre-order a hundred then once I start paying off my debts make more pre-orders than do special edition consoles and colors and maybe some kind of graphics on it.
Will I feel bad for all those people who invested into Intellivision Amico. I feel bad for Keith Robinson intellivision may just go out of business and the name would just disappear for ever. The man's Legacy will just go under and everyone will remember it as a scammer machine and Tommy Tallarico. But no one really remembers Keith Robinson a intellivision programmer who worked for Mattel Electric he brought intellivision and kept it alive from 1980s to 2017 that's a long time.
TBF the last time Nintendo tried to sell a console purely on the strength of their Games it was the Wii U. You can’t fall behind the power curve without offering some unique use case that people actually want. Still more successful than almost anything in this video though.
Meh, Nintendo really messed up the Wii U’s library. Nintendoland, NSMBU and wii fit weren’t going to sell the system. Mario 3D land came too late. The gamepad use case wasn’t compelling enough as an idea even when done well on the Wii U, and the best games on the system barely use it.
They should have focused on releasing legacy software on other platforms before ever making a new console
This is a good point - it could have provided a small amount of cash flow.
crowd funding is interesting but I would never support one. if established companies aren't immune to struggle and have failures with new products, someone brand new will have far larger hurdles to overcome. that's a liability I wouldn't want to be a part of.
I have been burned many, many times on crowdfunding. I have stopped covering them to avoid viewers getting ripped off.
Great Video, as usual
If ANYBODY says ANYTHING bad about my good friend Tommy Tallarico on social media, I will SLAP them POW
lmao
OUYA still has online servers going. And new games released each year. The console sells for double what it did at launch.
Are you sure about that? Razer who ended up owning Ouya shut the whole thing down a year or two ago.
@@LonSeidman Yes sadly the official server did get shut down rather quick. But thankfully fan run servers picked up where they left off. It is a rather small OUYA community remaining. But can't say the console isn't still getting love to this day. I bet OUYA 2 would actually meet fundraising goals. Despite all the failures people still cling to the idea of a Console made by gamers for gamers. Instead of console that is designed to make money by business investors.
The Amico was also going to be Android-based... just like the Ouya. Hopefully, the games for the Amico will get ported over to the Android store.
Also, Android is not a great game platform.
Nintendo switch really got people losing it lol 🤣
Nvidia fails at gaming but successful at TV. PlayStation successful at gaming but failed at TV.
We must be in the bizarro universe :)
This is going to be good lol
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It’s the Amico bandwagon talk guys! Did you even know the console was a thing a few days ago?
Amico is an SCAM. Intellivision should refund the money. Intellivision should just make legacy consoles that are cheap and people can afford to buy.
Is the Amico going to fail though? I did get my refund in May 2020 as they had my money for almost a year by then and very little news and updates so I got a refund but I do own a t-shirt. I needed the money for GPD Win Max which I later sold to buy the Onexplayer. The games will be budget price thats the draw. You can use your smart phone for extra players. Wait I didnt know the CEO changed? :( Hard to say it but Tommy Tallarico is not new to over selling and trying really hard to do something new. He clearly wants to get back to music and not managing a company. I hope Earthworm Jim game is still happening. I tried to talk to Amico fan boys years ago very dismissive lot and horrid group, I was right to get a refund in 2020.
The need millions now or their company shuts in June. Its unlikely the console will even launch.
The Amico situation has been a complete mess from day one that has been flying under the radar, with almost everything that was initially promised turning out to be either mismanaged or an outright false promise. Earthworm Jim is not happening for undisclosed reasons. Some of the games that were claimed to be "exclusive" are not exclusive at all, like Evel Knievel is a mobile game that is available. Some of the brands they were supposed to be working with like MLB never had deals. The physical media turned out to not be real game cartridges. Instead they only have download links. I'm barely scratching the surface. A lot of the details paint Tommy Tallarico in a very bad light.
They've been constantly delaying the system, and it hasn't even begun production yet. They're struggle just to get the OS running, and the games for it made. Now they're hemorrhaging money, and need to cough up millions of dollars JUST to keep the company alive for a few more months. As if that wasn't bad enough, they would owe $100 for each system sold which means they either sell it at a loss (which they can't afford to at this point), or jack the prices up (which they can't afford to at this point). To say things are a mess is putting it nicely.
They can barely keep the lights on in the office, how are they going to pay for a manufacturing line, packaging, shipping, advertising?
Evercade ? playdate? uhhh... dude do more research
The Atari VCS would like to disagree.
no mention about this being backed by a known rasict and homophobe and not like "he made a joke on twitter" more like "he has a podcast where he calls jews rats and proudly accepts the label of homophobe"
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