Woman fired for better computer math…?
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Dear RUclips subscribers!
I am a passionate lover of wonderful TV series.
I am passionate about sharing the content of wonderful dramas by narrating them to you, and I expect that you will be able to watch more wonderful dramas.
My channel covers two aspects:
On the video side, I mainly update horizontal videos with commentary and reviews on dramas.
On the Shorts side, it mainly updates short videos, which are secondary creations of exciting TV series with distinctive features, and include comments and commentaries with specific meanings.
That part of the story is completely true John Glenn would only go if she said everything was OK. He had total confidence in her
I bet that made her feel good
@jasonwalsh1052 .... She honestly didn't know for years afterward. It's only when Glenn was talking to others, years later, that it came out. Yes, she was flattered, but she took it as it was... nessessity.
Exactly!!! Glenn didn’t give a hoot about anything but the J.O.B……a man of integrity and Katherine was his go/nogo…Period.
Ty mr glenn
Yeah, kinda destroys the whole "literally everyone hated this woman for her race" narrative the film tried to push.
I had so much respect for him referring to Katherine as “the smart one”, and not “the black one”. He was a better man than what was expected of him in the times.
well, i mean, there was 50 of them, it would be a hassle to specify
It says he really said get the girl to check the numbers but not the smart one line... It was added
@@sburker32 its as if it was just added for sake of the movie 😂
But really, color doesn't matter. You want the best and he knows who the best is
But still disrespectful. Do they call the male mathematicians "boy"?
If that dialogue was remotely accurate, John Glenn put his life in Katherine's hands. That's real trust in a team mate.
It is true. He would not go until she confirmed the numbers
He trusted her above a computer.
True story
From what I understand he did ask them to get her to check the numbers by it was a few days before the launch, not the day of. The movie sped up the timeline for dramatic effect.
I worked as a volunteer in Senator John Glenn's Senate office..He was welcoming and no ego to deal with. I took our Mom to the "thank you volunteers" barbecue at his home in Maryland. He came up to where Mom and I were standing talking and I almost gasped when the Senator welcomed us...OMG! We are standing there talking to Senator Glenn...they had mutual friends...it was amazing
It is 💯 accurate. Those were his exact words!
A "computer" used to mean a person who worked out computations by hand
Actually makes so much sense, compute-er
A comput-her
@@LadyRockville
We see what you did there. 👍🏿
In the past we had exams of code writing by hand, now everyone trusts that anyone else's functions they depend on they actually compute correctly. Hence why we get crap results.
@@TheRimBrakeGuyPowerful statement.
He trusted her brain and did not give a rip about skin color.
The way it is meant to be. God always manages to teach lust lessons. Sadly most don't get it.
A Black Female, that's a message.
Prejudice is WRONG and Set us back as human beings.
Yup! And sadly we are losing this progress today. Racism is at a new level high just in a different way. EVERYTHING is racially divided and enforced today through "wokeism" and it has done more damage to humanity and society since the days of slavery.
If I'm putting my life on the line, I don't care about your color, your intelligence is what I care for, are you able to get me to safety and do my part right. Glenn acted on it. ❤
@@reljapopovic her intellect was the only thing that mattered. Everything else was irrelevant
As he SHOULD. And as the rest should have too.
John Glenn confirmed that he did say that.💯👌
Wow 🥲
Alright John Glenn for placing your trust in her.
👍🏾
This is so important! He asked specifically for the only woman in that department and called her the smart one! If she said the numbers were bad, he wasn't going up! That is complete faith in her skills and intelligence!!
I'm still taken back by the fact that God gave individuals such skills in figuring out such complex scenarios
You and me both.
You and me both.
You and me both.
@@charlesphillips3982 Simple. Look at the Pyramids in Giza, Egypt to all the building built in Amerikkka. The slaves did it all by HAND without any blue prints. They LIED about Africa to BP, withheld true history and replaced it with "HIS-story."
"It appears so."
There's no answer as reluctant as this
I really liked Jim Parsons in this. I know they gathered a lot of different people to make that role. He did well to represent the people who thought they knew better. Because there were quite a few in the room.
This movie was so damn good. It should be shown in schools.
My school's 6th grade History teachers created an entire day around this movie. Hidden Figures Day has every discipline doing something based on this. The entire grade watches the movie, then they rotate to each class for activities. In Science creates "rockets" then they go out and fly them. In English, they read about these ladies, then free write about how they feel about what they've learned. It's a fantastic event that students enjoy. ❤
One of my kids was in elementary school when it came out. The entire grade had a field trip to the movie theater to see it. He came home and was excited, saying it was a really great movie. It absolutely should be required viewing.
@marynraven I'm so glad they are showing it.
I'm 60 and grew up with a grandpa who was obsessed with space travel. We watched every launch and parade and he even bought a color TV for man's first walk in the moon! He threw a big party and I was 5 and got to stay up late to watch it. (Abd the moon walk itself. Black and white 😆)
But back then you never heard of these great women. Its disappointing.
My grandpa was never one to be racist or misogynistic. He always encouraged everyone to do their best no matter what it was you wanted to do.
He thought that everyone should be valued in what they bring to the table-not what they were carrying in their pants or what color God painted them.
His favorite TV show. Star trek! He said that maybe someday we would be that way. All colors or sexes working together. I miss that man every day.
@@Emeraldwitch30It sounds like your Dad was a great man! I’m sure you miss him very much.
Movie name please
He knew that she was smarter than the IBM computer. What he did was show how much respect he had for her. He put his life in her hands. Very Cool 😎
The machine is only as smart as the program it's running. If you don't have the mathematician involved in programming the computer you're just generating wrong numbers really fast.
Not smarter than the computer. But smarter than the programmers that wrote the program that tried to automate her computations.
To write a good program that computes the trajectories, you need to be good enough with the actual math. And you also need to understand concepts like numeric overflow or cancellation errors.
It's often forgotten that you can't just program a computer. You also needs specific subject knowledge about the task the program is intended to handle. To compute the beam loads in a building, you need the engineering knowledge of how forces applies to materials, the concept of material stiffness etc.
So while the computer can sometimes be too slow for a specific task, a big part of the issue is to feed it good programs and good input data for the programs to compute on.
Agree with the other 2 ... computers are not magic boxes punching out automatically correct numbers. Having Katherine verify the IBM program numbers is spot on and she should be retained to verify every change. Going wrong 10000 times faster than before is not a win.
@@HariSeldon913 A mathematician is still limited by his understanding of a problem. His calculation may be 100% correct and at the same time total crap because he missed something not within his scope.
They lost a Venus probe some years ago because someone mixed m/s and feet/s. Mathematically sound, actual crap.
He knew she was smarter than the guys who programmed the ibm's
He wouldn't lanch with out Katherine checking the numbers. Every time
I don’t think he called on Mrs. Johnson for his second launch.
lol I love that 😂 "get the girl, the smart one" meaning he is talking to a bunch of dipshits
And they knew it! The universe surely did that on purpose. A time where white people believed themselves superior only to come begging for her help.
😂that's cold !
@@geridinewhite869 But TRUE! 😂
As famous as NASA is, it’s a human endeavor, and that being the case, for many people it’s just their job, and sometimes the just have bad days or care less.
Very much not what it means.
It means he respected her more than the computer.
What you said is incredibly wrong.
I’m glad he’s stuck up for her because he liked her from the beginning when she was telling them about what coordinates to take and what would help them land in certain places better he was agreeing with her from the beginning when they doubted her
As a 70ish white guy…I LOVE this movie! The first time I saw it I was so thrilled to hear John Glenn request “the smart one” instead of ‘the black one.’ It felt to me like society had actually progressed.
What if she was the only black one and the entire department was smart? Saying the black one would be much easier to identify, would it not?
@haventsleptyet That's why he said the girl. The rest were men. He didn't seem to care much about color.
@@aliciaborth3016 what if she was guy, then how's he suppose to physically describe him without using skin color? The smart one,..that guy who doesn't have a vowel in the 3rd of 4th characters in his last name but only has one in his mothers maiden name??
@@aliciaborth3016 i think describing her by her skin color would be much easier, dont you?
Why is it I am unable to find the Title for movie?
I'm 56 years old black man New Orleans. I was raised by eight strong black women, my grandmother, my mother and aunties. I looked up to them. Damn smart. Very mature, wisdom full of it. Every move I made was based on their decision. Now I am 56 years old due to them and the experiences that have been through it wasn't for them. I wouldn't be still alive today. Black women
Black men need them all their lives don't they. mom, SISTER, gram, auntie, WIFE = THEM ALL. HOW DO YOU TREAT HER? LOUISIANNA is a questionable state of citizens, been thru many Hurricanes and slavery and wars. You all don't seem to learn. VOTE BLUE IF YOU WANT TO BE FREE.🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊
I have worked with many smart black women (and men) who were treated with disrespect like what is shown here.
Racism's big pay off is that if a portion of the population is excluded from consideration because smart people are displaced by dumb people.
A classic example of this issue is the gerrymandering that is so rampant in the republican party.
What does black have to do with it at the end? Is it your fucking signature cuz it did not tie into your point whatsoever
God bless the woman in your life ...😊
That's the black 🖤 magic of black women 🙌🪄
it took so.many years to tell their story. Glad to finally be told.
Better late than never but more importantly they did a marvellous job with that movie.
I was pleasantly surprised & in my opinion it's one of the 10 best movies of the 2010 decate.
Despite the title to this video, she wasn't getting fired at all. She was working in this department but the first IBM Main Frame computer had just been brought on line. So she was going back to the department she originally worked in.
The movie "Hidden Figures" was the story of three black women who worked as computers at NASA, which had been formed from several government organizations.
She and the other two women worked for NASA until they retired.
A really good story, women both black and white mathematicians, worked on the calculations that white male engineers were too lazy to do themselves, they considered doing the BORING calculations to prove the math was right, a job for secretaries which were traditionally female.
This woman being portrayed in the movie was a mathematical genius as a little girl.
In fact as others have noted there was some doubt about the accuracy of the splash down coordinates that the IBM Main Frame had spit out. John Glenn said if Katherine the smart one could verify the math he would go on with the mission.
Im not a computer but I will say, I’ve been employed at various jobs the last 25+ years going over paperwork that most people don’t want to deal with. All little things you have to look at and verify is just too boring for most people. Accuracy is what saves the company money. Im more than happy to pour over paperwork 8 hours a day.
Why waste a talented engineer's time on doing mundane calculations when you can have someone else do it and have the engineers, you know, engineer things.
@@smallgoon
You mean sit around drinking coffee and shooting the crap with their fellow engineers, until the human computer either verifies the engineer's math, or comes back and shows the errors in their original mathematical calculations.
At NASA especially in the early days I doubt they actually worked on more than one piece of the puzzle at a time. That way they could concentrate on one small part, so as not to get the math from one part confused with the math from another part.
She is my Hero. God Bless.
She is priceless with the numbers , this made America great! When we need her. She stepped it up.
I just love the way John Glenn character said that 'the smart one'.
The only thing that could have been said that would have been better would have been.Yeah the smartest one because the way it makes it sound is the other ones are dumb but they were all part of the team so they must have all been pretty smart. But I don't necessarily think it was such a bad saying By saying. the smart one.
But I don't know.Maybe i'm just thinking about it wrong , but then again maybe not. Haha, ha.
Smart man to say that smart word
I really feel like every American should watch this movie! Very enlightening!
Great movie, like one of the top 10’s, sadly because being a woman, being a coloured woman, brilliant at mathematics, the trifecta of so called a man’s domaine in that part of history, and still the pride, grace and dignity, what a women, what a story.
Name?
Hidden Figures@@yourgirl6013
Actually isn't so... most people that operate computer those days and after thar are women...
Man dominated computing fields of working environment is a current phenomenon.
Love this so much! What a hero Katherine Johnson is! She was such an inspiration! Still is! ❤
@BarbaraPryor-Smith;
She was such an inspiration to you that you didn't get her name right
...it's Katherine GOBLE...!!!
A terrific performance by Taraji P. Henson...
She was probably the worst/least paid in this film as well...........progress.
@@dayewalker9408 actually, at the start of her career at NASA, she was Katherine Goble, but when she got married in the movie and in real life, she became Katherine Johnson. Perhaps you didn't view the entire movie. The building they named after her uses her married name. Johnson. 🙂
@@dayewalker9408hahaha you got BURNED
Great episode with John Glenn saying he felt the machine(IBM) was flying him! He requested Katherine Goble to check the numbers, wonderful statement! ❤
What's the show?
Hidden Figures
An absolute outstanding film should have won an OSCAR
Sheldon still cant get his head around "being wrong" 😂😂😂
Perfectly cast
Movie: Hidden Figures
Really good movie
Absolutely amazing and beautifully done.
Thanks a lot for mentioning the movie's name.. I was searching like hell
Frustrates me so much! They never put the movie name in the description. I guess it helps their engagement or something to have people searching through the comments for the movie name. Thanks for letting us know.
Thank you.
Thanks for name
She wasn't fired... later on the computing group was job shifted to operate the IBM
What's the difference when you're being replaced or your department is sized down due to progress.
@@valeriaweekes5799 she still had the previous job instead of firing her from the previous position as well maybe? They never mentioned she was fired, she was just sent back to her previous job
An electronic computer always gives the right answer… if it's programmed correctly… and if it's used correctly… and if no one has modified it maliciously, and if you didn't make a mistake when you were typing the numbers in…
It's a useful tool, but you still need to employ smart people who know what's what
Remember, everything done at NASA was low bid. It was a wonderful time at the "Cape" during the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs. There were some really smart people there.
When Kathrin heard the reference the smart one, I bet she thought sure I'll check it
She should have said progress is a double-edged sword.
@@Confessions089Good one
From what I can understand John Glenn was honest and he appreciated people who was the same way.
Taraji P. Hanson is a national treasure in woman's acting!
All 40 of those engineers were considered Geniuses before Catherine showed up
One of the best movies made
Can you tell me the name of the movie?
@@MoonLight-pu4xx Hidden Figures
@@myselfotaku9188 Thank you!!
They did a marvellous job with that movie.
I was pleasantly surprised & in my opinion it's one of the 10 best movies of the 2010 decate.
say the name of the movie
Ms Goble had a life long career at NASA. She was a National Treasure, albeit unrecognized and abused at the time.
Excellent movie. And true
She was not fully appreciated at the time, but her legacy is front and center at NASA. The NASA Katherine G. Johnson Computational Research Facility in Langley, VA is a testament to her career at NASA. She was a great lady.
Incredible story
Don't destroy the current before you have the replacement fully tested and proven functioning.
Having only one system with no contingency or back up is silly system.
Companies still have no imagination. You have a great employee, incredibly smart, and now because the thing they're doing no longer exists, youre going to get rid of them? Crazy. Like they're not able to learn something else and become even more valuable and loyal
She was sent back to the department she previously worked for ......not 'let go'.
@katherineswitala4224 In real life, you'd be lucky to get that. Otherwise, you're just let go.
@@Confessions089
I am aware of that ....but, in this case she was not "fired' and that was good. She had not done anything wrong to be fired - though sometimes that, in and of itself, still results in being fired - which, of course is always unfair. There were so many prejudices during those years that, sadly enough, seem to have been smoldering among many people and are now being 'stirred' up. Our melanin or gender should never be an issue regarding things.
I mean, this was real life... Wasn't it?
What they did didn't " stopped existing" they got equipment that made the calculations within seconds, in other words they got updated equipment, is not something bad since they learnt how to use it providing more jobs to more women actually
Make yourself irreplaceable.
That only works if those working above you share your opinion. I've heard no one is irreplaceable!
That is how we were taught in business. We were taught more than one job in accounting. Hmhmhmhm.
Truth speak 🗣️ !!
If only more Black and all kids knew this . The World would be a Better Place ! John Glenn was the Man, Katherine, and the Other Ladies Thank you God Bless !
Katherine & "the other ladies" were the mathematical geniuses that NASA needed to do their missions. Glenn trusted her skills over the computer, and wouldn't go on the mission without her correct trajectorial calculations.
Yet, he was "the Man" who called this woman a "girl" due to racism & his misogynistic ego, and couldn't give her the proper respect she was due. It's obvious who the "Smart Ones" were. (A room FULL of BW engineers & mathematicians.)
They tried so hard to keep her contained. The light of the black woman.
I was always impressed by the early astronauts. Now learning this, I am honored to give John Glenn my respect.
He’s a Boilermaker.
Purdue University.
Where most of the astronauts come from.
She may have been fired for being slower than a machine, yet she proved to be smarter than the same machine 😁
Computers. Speed and automate errors.
@Daniel Love your comment..eloquently stated!
This is a powerful movie of amazing women of their time.... Get to watching.
say the name of the movie
When your life is on the line, race and gender doesn't matter. Only talent does..
Race and gender should never matter.
You mean, use a person based on merit....not diversity
@@zeta-57 Yes....
EXCELLENT movie!!!! I had NO Idea it was All based on actual facts or WHY it took SO long to be told …
And the actors were Incredible ❤
say the name of the movie
@@TempestKittyit’s a bot, it doesn’t know it.
@@TempestKitty
Great movie: Hidden Figures
@@TempestKitty
I Didn't see my reply. I'll try again:
It was a Great movie: Hidden Figures
Danm I love how everyone trusted her , what a beautiful woman ❤ the question is why isn’t she everyone’s role model instead of MJ or Magic or any athlete
Because she wasn't rich. People value money over all things. Sports heros represent excess and lavish lifestyles. The thing all people want. Their athletic ability isn't why they are praised.
MJ and Magic most certainly were praised for their athletic ability. They are also two great examples of achieving more than their athletic ability provided. For that reason they are legitimate role models.
There was a saying back in the day. " Garbage in Garbage out"
There's still is. If you're not sure about your imputs, there's no way to trust the outputs
Crazy how times have changed where Glenn is saying nope not flying and today they would just replace you with someone who will
They didn't have a choice back then, now they do
John Glenn knew what was up for the right thing
Well, she must have been doing something right, then.
Of course they need the woman!!!❤❤❤😂😂😂❤❤❤
For those who don’t know this is all a real story she was incredibly discriminated against for not only being a woman but also being black. But she didn’t put up with it sometimes and she was a beautiful soul.
I LOVE this movie. I get goosebumps everyone I watch the scene where she finally snaps agree running through the train to the toilet and back. So, SO good.
RAIN A quarter of a mile away
"Let's get the girl to check the numbers... The smart one"
The trust in her abilities!
Respected and deferred her superior knowledge!
His best role. He WAS the man.
His best role? I guess you haven't heard of Dance with the wolves.
"We can't keep up with that IBM " .... truth is The IBM couldn't keep up with the superior brain of Katherine... what an amazing woman. Love her for who she was...a rare wonderful person😊 ❤️ 😊❤
She is smartest person in the room
This is why I respected John Glenn.. He verified that he actually made that statement and wouldn't launch without her say so.. He respected and trusted Katherine's mathematical genius over her color...
I don't like the way she was treated!!!!
No one does. That was the whole point of the movie was to show the disparity in how people were treated at that time.
No one could have played this sisters part better.🏆
Without her you are & you had nothing you knew it yet you still let her go if she was smart she would just tell you that's a no-go just like you told her😮
Her calculations kept him in control before. He had faith in his support. Everyone has a skill that can be used. She rocked it.
I was one of the lucky ones. I saw Mr. Glen go up the televised time when i was a toddler, and i watched in person ,from Titusville Fl when he took the Shuttle up to return to space.
Glenn playing Glenn
Go get the girl the smart one
I love this lady so so much she is such a great actress. She carries this role off with such dignity and respect. No one else could’ve done it.
Movie 🎥: Hidden Figures TRUE STORY
PG 2016 ‧ Drama/History ‧ 2h 7m
Streaming on Disney Premium, Hulu Premium
Three brilliant African-American women at NASA -- Katherine Johnson, Dorothy Vaughan and Mary Jackson -- serve as the brains behind one of the greatest operations in history: the launch of astronaut John Glenn into orbit, a stunning achievement that restored the nation's confidence, turned around the Space Race and galvanized the world.
I just tried to get it on Hulu but was unable to do so🤷🏼♀️
@@evamariesneed-rodriguez7047 It's Hulu Premium not Hulu regular
These BW contributed to major events at NASA, and yet their expertise was "hidden", never talked about, or learned in schools. The question remains: "Why?"
Because society chose to depict the BW as being nothing more than a domestic servant, child bearer, cook, etc. But people want to claim there is NO "racism" involved. GTFOH
She was an amazing woman whose intellectual ability and capacity outshone her male peers. She triumphed over racism, ignorance and arrogance and was pivotal to the success of the mission.
A genius brain is a genius brain...........WHY does it matter what body it uses to live in????
Well, tbh, drama sells.
But the lady who wrote the screenplay is worth reading about. Her name is Margot Lee Shetterly.
We all human and she was the smart one. Brilliant movie ❤
say the name of the movie
I've watched this movie a while back l really loved ❤it and enjoy it from the beginning to the end HOW SMART THAT KATHERINE IS VERY PROFESSIONAL THUMS UP TO ALL THE ACTORS WHO MADE THIS MOVIE COMES ALIVE 👏 ❤️ 😀 🙌 💙 👍
say the name of the movie
@@TempestKitty Hidden Figures
Dang Sheldon cooper really moved up in the world
And became a racist lol
He finally became an engineer!
Missy would say that he's a rocket scientist, lol.
用人唯才,不分種族。這才是大將之風。
Well that’s not the criteria in the USA any longer.
@@Viking380 it never was that way. It's starting to get better but the US is still full of racists.
@@Viking380
Any longer…?
Can we ignore everything else for a minute and appreciate how fine she is in every scene of this movie.
Costner just gets better &: better
After graduating from top gun the hangman became an astronaut
Women always underestimated.
Finally watched this movie last night. Absolutely brilliant film. Amazing cast.
This was my favorite part
The whole film was SPOT ON regarding how things went down.
Movie producer should make more of this kind of educational type of moive.
Awesome movie!! ❤❤❤
say the name of the movie
John Glenn was a nice man. He lived a full life. He was a great friend/fan of Track & Field!
Those two convicts are looking at Gargamel like he is crazy. I wonder what they are thinking.
They need her🎉❤
US
Can You imagine being used to the last and then being tossed out typically 😮
Hidden Figures ❤
She was the best we had at what she did. But being a person of Color she as not well respected like she deserved. To me Katherine is a true American Hero.
Movie "Hidden Figures"
Katherine Gobles brilliance enabled John Glenn to make history. What a mind!
An awesome movie.
What is this movie please
@@bozm9961Hidden Figures 😊
@@lisamelroy2855 thank Lisa
Great movie and great acting at all levels and what a group of fine women, made incredible contributions.. that helped get our rocket program off the ground and made it successful.. salute to these ladies and unsung hero’s
Did she make conditions when they came crawling back to her?
Typical higher up crap....they say they don't need you and then all of the sudden they do....thank goodness we had a smart woman to help them.😮
Guess you need her after all!
This is what happens when you put ignorance to the side. Sh!t gets done. Not just for a few, it works for everyone. The American government could take a lesson from this scene.
Effin' men and their egos
I don't think I'd have gone back. That's what they do, they use you for your great talent and then they simply just get rid of you.
It still happens today!
What a excellent movie ❤❤❤
I like to think I’m a smart person, then I watch a movie like this, about a person like Katherine and I’m just simply amazed