That sir, is one the very best instructional videos on this subject that I have ever had the pleasure to watch. I am no expert on the subject, but I understood every instruction provided. Clear concise and entertaining, Thankyou.
Allen Models and Little Engines have been around for a long time. They both offer a variety of locomotive kits. There are several folks who custom build these locomotives for special orders, but that route is always the most expensive.
Well done, Sir! A lot of things I never saw before. Coal bunker liner, Quick disconnect water fittings. Lighting fire from underneath with a torch. Were those zerk fittings for the grease?
have these boilers ever exploded? are these as dangerous as a full scale steam can be if they are not rebuilt and maintained like full scale steam. not saying that full sized steam arent safe but they require extensive maintenance to keep them that way
I’ve recently took interest in an Allen Harpur 2-4-0 and painting it like a Southern Pacific locomotive and building a Vanderbilt style tender for it, and fire it on propane.
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Great video guys! I enjoyed watching it. Keep 'em comin'. One thought though... the volume of your ending credits was way higher than the rest. Almost blew my ears off. ;)
Built, these locomotives range from $8,000-$15,000. It depends on the seller. If you build the locomotive from the kit, it would be much cheaper, but you have to invest a lot of time in the machining (could be years). I don't believe the boiler is included either (that would be another $3k ish). If you type "Allen models mogul price list" on google, the first link that comes up is a breakdown of the kits stages & the prices. There are 7 live steam railroads in Oklahoma.
I usually fire up a pacific in the same Inch and a Half scale and the engine is ready to go out in about 30-40 minutes. I would guess that with a smaller boiler probably towards a high end 30 minutes.
Thanks Steam Channel for posting this video, I want to BUILD my own steam locomotive from SCRATCH!!! I hope I can get it done soon, do you think I can do it?
Thank you! I haven't seen many live steam O scale locomotives. I have only seen one, and it was custom made. I know that ACCUCRAFT makes live steam locomotives in, I believe, G scale. I saw an HO live steam locomotive once at a hobby show, but I don't recall the brand.
how far apart are your wheels im making blue prints based off of #618 with a early Consolidation twist and i wanted to the gauge that you run on because it looks more managabel
caseyjonesfan Casey, it will also depend on what part of the world you are in. In most of North America it is 7.5 inch gauge. In the rest of the world it is 7.25 inch gauge. I believe in some North Eastern states of America they have 7.25 inch gauge.
+Logan Theodorou This video was filmed at the Illinois Live Steamers. Unfortunately, the club is not open to the public; however, if you're in the Chicago-land area and are interested in joining, you can visit the club's website and email their corresponding secretary for more information and setup a visit. Just google search the club's name and their site should come right up.
Awesome video!!! I would like to get into live steam railroading, but my "local" track is about 2 hours away, and its a private track! :( Oh well, but very awesome video, and great tutorial!!!
Needs to do a post script voice over for this video. It is a well presented with the exception of the audio. Safety concerns should also be presented. It is still a good video
Either way, actually. Just be ready to pay fairly big money to buy one someone has assembled and be sure you know how much machine work goes into building one if you go that route.
If you were looking to buy an engine in very good quality of this size. It could easily be hovering around $12,000-$14,000. They are much cheaper to make but take a lot of time and are very labor intensive. Plus only few people have the ability and skill set to create such engine I described
+EngineerTrain Gmod Might run anywhere from $6000 or so if you build it yourself (youhave to make nearly every single part) to 25,000+ if you buy it already built (used).
something that shouldn't have to be said but please level out the volume of the video. As an audio engineer it was hard to hear for the most part and at the end it nearly blew a fuse.
Name calling is uncalled for, keep your comments civil on my videos. The torch was through the grate for a few seconds and he had the fire lit. Everyone has their own way of doing things.
U.P. railfan A brand new locomotive would probably be in the neighborhood of $15-25k and I'd say more toward the latter. You may be able to pick up a used Mogul for $12-15k
+davidgabriel211 You can't buy it at an online store----even if you could it would probably run $30,000+ ( that's right: 30,000+). Look at Accucraft prices for a complete ready-to-run steam locomotive that is very small: AC77-217 SHAY - 28T CLASS, OIL BURNING BUNKER, LIVE STEAM (for example) only about a 1/3 the size of the ones you see in this video.
The vast majority of live steam locomotives only have one water glass as that is all that is necessary. The only reason full size locomotives have more than one is to 1. make sure that all of the cab crew can see the water level easier and 2. to have a backup in case one fails during the trip. With live steam locomotives their is only one operator so as long as that person can see the water glass there isn't any problems. The safety part isn't really an issue in this scale as there aren't boiler regulations in the majority of places where one can run. Also many cabs are cramped as it is and can't fit a second glass.
Ditto. If you want clean & easy you might as well run it on batteries. This is the first time I've seen how a live steam locomotive "model" works. I'm utterly amazed the engine is 100% no bullshit real - down to the coal fired boiler!
Batterys are not a bad idea actually. Tell me ole chum did he explain to you the importance of water and what happens when it settles below the top of the crown sheet.
Not to mention you have to carry the unsightly propane bottle around the track all the time. If you want a little cleaner then go oil fired - it's prototypical in many cases. Secondly a battery operated Live Steam locomotive would be looked down on as cheesy and fake by any real Live Steamer worth his salt. You couldn't give me a battery operated Live Steam loco for free, let alone would I buy one!
THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I BEEN looking for a video like this for the last SEVERAL HOURS!!!!!! my work is complete today!
That sir, is one the very best instructional videos on this subject that I have ever had the pleasure to watch. I am no expert on the subject, but I understood every instruction provided. Clear concise and entertaining, Thankyou.
When I’m older I want one!! It looks so fun to be a engineer!
Allen Models and Little Engines have been around for a long time. They both offer a variety of locomotive kits. There are several folks who custom build these locomotives for special orders, but that route is always the most expensive.
Here is the first video in our new "How-To" series
Nice video!! Didn't realize how much work went into it. You guys run diesel too? Is there any operating sessions filmed?
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This is really interesting!
Sure, that is a great idea! I'll add that to the list for the summer.
Beautiful loco
Thanks for sharing the video. Very interesting.
How ling does it take to reach operating pressure.
Well done, Sir! A lot of things I never saw before. Coal bunker liner, Quick disconnect water fittings. Lighting fire from underneath with a torch. Were those zerk fittings for the grease?
have these boilers ever exploded? are these as dangerous as a full scale steam can be if they are not rebuilt and maintained like full scale steam. not saying that full sized steam arent safe but they require extensive maintenance to keep them that way
thanks great info you did a good job
how long on average would this process take on an engine a similar size as that one while working at the same pace in this video?
+RailYardWarrior The fire-up process generally takes between 45-60 minutes.
"If they don't like getting dirty, they shouldn't be around steam engines anyway...." Too true!
What size coal would you recommend for a 3.5inch loco?
What about washing out the boiler of all the scale and gunk? Do you guys have a video on that? If not, can you guys make one?
I’ve recently took interest in an Allen Harpur 2-4-0 and painting it like a Southern Pacific locomotive and building a Vanderbilt style tender for it, and fire it on propane.
Great I am also starting Harpur
Great video. My only suggestion is mic up the presenter. Then we can hear him better.
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What is the chemical you are adding to the water? turtle industries ????? Thanks
Do you have to do all of this, every single time you fire the locomotive?
What are the 3 knobs on the tender for
Whats are some of the differences in firing coal steam engines over propane.
Great video
Great video guys! I enjoyed watching it. Keep 'em comin'.
One thought though... the volume of your ending credits was way higher than the rest. Almost blew my ears off. ;)
Why is LPG torch bad? the guys I know dip the wood in kero to light it instead, is that what you use or is there another way?
Built, these locomotives range from $8,000-$15,000. It depends on the seller. If you build the locomotive from the kit, it would be much cheaper, but you have to invest a lot of time in the machining (could be years). I don't believe the boiler is included either (that would be another $3k ish). If you type "Allen models mogul price list" on google, the first link that comes up is a breakdown of the kits stages & the prices. There are 7 live steam railroads in Oklahoma.
How long does it take to fire your locomotive from start to finish?
I usually fire up a pacific in the same Inch and a Half scale and the engine is ready to go out in about 30-40 minutes. I would guess that with a smaller boiler probably towards a high end 30 minutes.
Thanks Steam Channel for posting this video, I want to BUILD my own steam locomotive from SCRATCH!!! I hope I can get it done soon, do you think I can do it?
Very interesting!
Thank you! I haven't seen many live steam O scale locomotives. I have only seen one, and it was custom made. I know that ACCUCRAFT makes live steam locomotives in, I believe, G scale. I saw an HO live steam locomotive once at a hobby show, but I don't recall the brand.
where are you guys located? I'd love to see this train run.
how far apart are your wheels im making blue prints based off of #618 with a early Consolidation twist and i wanted to the gauge that you run on because it looks more managabel
It's 7.5 inch gauge if that's what you're asking.
ok thank you
caseyjonesfan
Casey, it will also depend on what part of the world you are in. In most of North America it is 7.5 inch gauge. In the rest of the world it is 7.25 inch gauge. I believe in some North Eastern states of America they have 7.25 inch gauge.
where was this filmed at ?
I was just wondering, about how much would one of those locomotives cost and is there a club in oklahoma?
Where do you oprate? Are you open for tours?
+Logan Theodorou This video was filmed at the Illinois Live Steamers. Unfortunately, the club is not open to the public; however, if you're in the Chicago-land area and are interested in joining, you can visit the club's website and email their corresponding secretary for more information and setup a visit. Just google search the club's name and their site should come right up.
What are the most popular 7 1/2 gauge Live Steam Locomotive manufacturers around 1980-Present
is there a test that you fave to do?
Yes, it is a tedious process but it is well worth it to run the engine for the day.
nice vid bro
Awesome video!!! I would like to get into live steam railroading, but my "local" track is about 2 hours away, and its a private track! :( Oh well, but very awesome video, and great tutorial!!!
Needs to do a post script voice over for this video. It is a well presented with the exception of the audio. Safety concerns should also be presented.
It is still a good video
Thank You! lol Sorry, I'll try to tone it down for the next video.
If you were to build the locomotive to run on Propane would it be as annoying to clean?
It would be less intensive. Propane is much cleaner so you wouldn't have the ash and soot.
The Steam Channel Okay, i'll keep that in mind
What type of coal is that?
Great video:
Just curious, what does an engine like that cost???, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL ENGINE!.
Kind regards!
Eric Dee.
There aren't any zerk fittings for grease on the locomotive but instead small grease inlets on each driving wheel.
Where was this video filmed?
Illinois Live Steamers
You can also use charcoal briquets soaked in kero they transition over to coal a lot easier
Do they work for smaller live steam locos to?
How much for one of these fine locomotives?
Thank you so much.
how do i get a train like that do you buy it? or build your own?
Either way, actually. Just be ready to pay fairly big money to buy one someone has assembled and be sure you know how much machine work goes into building one if you go that route.
thank you
youve helped me alot :3
If you were looking to buy an engine in very good quality of this size. It could easily be hovering around $12,000-$14,000. They are much cheaper to make but take a lot of time and are very labor intensive. Plus only few people have the ability and skill set to create such engine I described
its a really good train im looking to make a E2 tank engine soon
Why would one not want to do that? Please elaborate. I don't know much about live steam, that's why I am asking. Thanks!
This locomotive is from the Praire State Live Steamers in Big Rock, IL
its sure not a 'chick mag' but its a hell'a'fun!
I have own a 3809 at the Illawarra live steamers in wonlengong it's a very good locomotive
Who built this engine?
Allen models
how much dose one of this loco cost
+EngineerTrain Gmod Might run anywhere from $6000 or so if you build it yourself (youhave to make nearly every single part) to 25,000+ if you buy it already built (used).
something that shouldn't have to be said but please level out the volume of the video. As an audio engineer it was hard to hear for the most part and at the end it nearly blew a fuse.
Name calling is uncalled for, keep your comments civil on my videos. The torch was through the grate for a few seconds and he had the fire lit. Everyone has their own way of doing things.
I would love to do a video exactly like this with the Hudson. just gotta find the fricken time
would this work on a real locomotive?
The basics would be the same. However there is more to do on a full size locomotive.
How much money does the locomotive cost?
U.P. railfan A brand new locomotive would probably be in the neighborhood of $15-25k and I'd say more toward the latter. You may be able to pick up a used Mogul for $12-15k
Costs so much that it makes more sense to build one instead of buying one. I'm building one for that reason. Just my 2 cents
+The Steam Channel where could you buy it? (online store)
+davidgabriel211 You can't buy it at an online store----even if you could it would probably run $30,000+ ( that's right: 30,000+). Look at Accucraft prices for a complete ready-to-run steam locomotive that is very small: AC77-217 SHAY - 28T CLASS, OIL BURNING BUNKER, LIVE STEAM (for example) only about a 1/3 the size of the ones you see in this video.
+John ______ ohh ok thanks man.
wow i love it =]
Where are you at
why does the loco only have one gauge glass?
The vast majority of live steam locomotives only have one water glass as that is all that is necessary. The only reason full size locomotives have more than one is to 1. make sure that all of the cab crew can see the water level easier and 2. to have a backup in case one fails during the trip. With live steam locomotives their is only one operator so as long as that person can see the water glass there isn't any problems. The safety part isn't really an issue in this scale as there aren't boiler regulations in the majority of places where one can run. Also many cabs are cramped as it is and can't fit a second glass.
Please redo your last video
I was really hoping to watch it but it’s unavailable
It was made public in error, that video will be posted later this year.
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Ok. It would be great to have a narrow gage steam train
What are the flue sizes
Half inches
In addition if you don't keep the flues clean, the boiler will eventually fail. A failed boiler is a very expensive proposition.
Think of doing this to a full size steam loco.
When will you
post how to shut down a locomotive?
We plan on filming that video early this summer in either May or June.
What is the boiler diameter
219mm od ,standard seamless pipe with 5mm thicness
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The oil I used on the valve gear in the video is a mixture of 90wt oil and STP mixed about 50/50.
Next time, use a flashlight so we can see into the boiler
The best way to start a fire is from the bottom.
great video but sound could be better
Alot of the ole boys here on the west coast use propane to heat their boilers. Not as dirty as coal and easier to find.
Not as fun either.
Ditto. If you want clean & easy you might as well run it on batteries. This is the first time I've seen how a live steam locomotive "model" works. I'm utterly amazed the engine is 100% no bullshit real - down to the coal fired boiler!
Batterys are not a bad idea actually. Tell me ole chum did he explain to you the importance of water and what happens when it settles below the top of the crown sheet.
Not to mention you have to carry the unsightly propane bottle around the track all the time. If you want a little cleaner then go oil fired - it's prototypical in many cases. Secondly a battery operated Live Steam locomotive would be looked down on as cheesy and fake by any real Live Steamer worth his salt. You couldn't give me a battery operated Live Steam loco for free, let alone would I buy one!
There are a lot of chicks in the hobby, mostly through their fathers or boyfriends.
Theses things are like $40K!!
I know how to use cnc mills and lathes and can weld. Next project.... hmmm
I wish I had the funds to get into this, GOD I HATE BEING POOR.
Hey you forgote a steap cleaning the engine and tender lol
I thought it was a boiler explosion!
I guess your HO ones would melt.
I maybe get a 4-8-4 for 50,000
Nah, I'd rather just stick to diesel. 😂
Ignore him. People do that just for the sake of doing it.
can you do a driving lesson
Ask Mr Trump, You're fired!
No volume
This video was cool but it needs more chicks and explosions.
1joshjosh1 it's not Hollywood or a movie it's a tutorial video Dumass
From what I've seen so far this is not a huge chick magnet hobby...lol
Go to discover live steam dot com for info on clubs.
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bad mic
#fireupnumber1lul
Please post more about driving people around