Smart move on the FelPro gaskets. For the readers, DO NOT use the Edelbrock gaskets. I installed my Pro Flo4 on my Bronco using the Edelbrock ones.... later that night a bunch of guys on the forums told me they leak and are garbage. 2 Failed O2 sensors later, i pulled it back off and used the FelPro's. No more leaking coolant into the exhaust ports. The Edelbrock gaskets split and leak almost immediately.
I install the FITECH go street 400 on a 75 Bronco with a 351M making 300hp, I had all the same heating issues and controller fail and ecm fail which had to be sent back to FITECH. I solved the heat issue by venting the hood with a scoop. It lowered the engine bay temp by 35%. FITECH customer service was just horrible to deal with. I installed the same unit on a 44 GMC with a 350, same thing, hand held controller failed. In my restoration shop, I will be trying the Edelbrock and the FAST EFI systems before I waste anymore time and money with FITECH. Thanks
I went with Holley Sniper TBI. The handheld unit is ok but I primarily turn with my laptop. I've been super impressed by the power and drivability compared to a Holley 650 vacuum secondary carb. I'm an Edelbrock guy but I wasn't ready to go full multi-port yet. All I did was pop off the carb and slap on the throttle body. Next on my list is an entry level vortech centrifugal supercharger. That should put me at the limit of my 650hp Sniper unit.
I know this video is a few years old BUT I think edelbrock is hands down worth the money. With that unit, you get individual injectors for each cylinder which is also probably a little better on fuel. I personally like the individual injectors which is why I’m interested in looking to buy it. I’m actually looking to replace all of my 1991 suburban TBI with the edelbrock pro flow.
I HAD the FiTech 600 hp street unit ! The Holley Sniper EFI is a WAAAAAY better unit ! (FAR LESS GLITCHES) Holley really did there homework with the software ! YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR !!!!
I'm thinking of EFI for a 4.6 single cam modular motor. Motor is for gas roots racing so will not drive bbn on the street. ? Edelbrock or Holley? Your thoughts
Not that Edelbrock is bad or anything, but Holley has power adders, whether Sniper, HP, Dominator, etc. The direct connection between handheld & ECU, so there is no wifi or connection issues, etc. No need to upgrade tabets, especially when they are continued to be used in mounting them inside the vehicle for monitoring purposes, or future adjustments. However the tablets are larger & somewhat better graphics.
Back in my work days, the company I was with expanded into the US market. Our product was more exy than our competitors. But we answered the phone. I was amazed at how many of our customers had horror stories about being hung out to dry by previous suppliers after they bought the product. It's made me really cautious about buying stuff from US businesses. So it's really great to hear about your experiences with Edelbrock.
Thanks for the video. I watched a few of your videos in August 2017 when I was installing my go Street 400 on my 66 Mercury Comet with a 289. I went from a two barrel single exhaust to a 4-barrel with dual exhaust to the fitech with a big radiator and electric cooling fan in about a six-month time frame. The biggest power booster was the fitech. I went from 10 MPG with the two barrel to 13 MPG with four-barrel and dual exhaust to 16 MPG with the fitech. I have been leaning it out over the last two weeks trying to improve my gas mileage. Today with the AFR at 16 to 1 for 3000 rpm cruise, I was at 16.5 MPG. My goal for the car is 20 MPG when I install an overdrive, so I think I'm on my way. It seems to pull the same MPG with or without the air conditioning on. I just set the 3000 RPM CRUISE AFR to 16.5:1 today - we'll see if it makes a difference. I'll drive this configuration until It breaks, and then its a three to four hundred horsepower crate motor and multi-port. Keep it up. I enjoy the videos.
I have the Fitech Go 600 in Australia, and agree with everything you said. Ive been lucky "so far" and had no issues at all. I have Holley Fuel pressure reg, and Aeromotive intank pump and not using Fitech for timing or fans. The less the ECU has to control, the better in my opinion. MultiPort injection is way better (edelbrock) than the Fitech is. If i ever have problems with Fitech I will look at a standalone system, as Edelbrock dont make a kit for Cleveland V8 as yet. The ECU does need alot of air to keep it cool, particularly in summer. I have installed a hood vent to try and add more air into the engine bay.
Thanks for the vid. It's really informative. The only criticism I would offer is that you compare the power of the units, yet you did a cam swap and didn't have the ability to retune the FITech. The Edelbrock was installed and tuned on the new cam.
etheir way you look at it the edlebrock is still gonna be better. it has direct injection. with that much better distribution of the fuel your thottle response will be better cylinders wont burn unevenlly etc. I strongy dislike the holley sniper and the fi tech for the simple fact that their just like the tbi's gm introduced 33 years ago all they did was add 2 more barrels to it..
Great video. One thing though - comparing TBI (whether it's FiTech or Holley) to port injection isn't a straight comparison. Yes, the Pro-Flo is more $$$ but it's an entirely different system from the FiTech and will perform much, much better. An EFI kit that includes an intake manifold, throttle body, injectors, rails and distributor that does sequential port injection is worth more than just a 4 bbl TBI system. The additional cost is easily justified by the additional driveability and performance you will get with real port injection. The real comparison is to compare Pro-Flo to any other sequential port injection kits. Pro-Flo is sub-$2000. All others are ~$3000. That's a $1000 difference!!
Makes me feel good about my decision to go edlebrock. Not like I'll be able to run it for another 6 to 8 months but I will have it on fresh 347 stroker. I enjoy your enthusiasm for the system on how well it help make it a hassle free driving exsperiance so far.
This is interesting to hear! It sounds like EdelBrock has really stepped their game up! I'm more than happy with the Sniper but if I had to change, I would definitely look into Edelbrock now.
First things first...love your videos! Second...thanks for your honest opinion of the two products, even though I feel it is not an apples to apples comparison. Third...I’m running the FiTech 400 HP with command center. I purchased it two years ago and installed it two weeks ago on my 1969 Ford F100 with 1971 351w. My handheld controller stopped working yesterday. It doesn’t work when plugged into the ECU or laptop...just black screen. I was able to complete my engine break in before the handheld stopped working. I’ve sent FiTech a message for tech support help and going to reach out to Summit (where I purchased it) and see if they are able to assist.
Now that you have the FiTech off and no longer rely on it for your Bronco, you easily send it back to them. At this point, this would probably benefit them more than you. It may help them work out some of their issues. Regarding cost: I also take into consideration the withdrawal something takes out of the bank of frustration. $200 dollars difference is a small cost for the sake of one's sanity. Thanks for the video.
So glad your channel popped up in my search for Edelbrock Pro Flo 4 info! I appreciate that your experience applies to any older classic ride, not just Broncos. I have a '70 C10 ( not a Chevy snob, I think Fords are bitchin" as well) and am starting down the same path with fuel injection. Already have a Boyd rear tank w/ internal FI pump installed and had debated on some of the other brands, like FI Tech for my SBC. The installation video and the follow up comparison have been excellent and have certainly cemented my decision to go with Edelbrock. Your video is refreshing, with the (sometimes ugly and pricey) problems out there for us all to see. No fluff, just practical help and advice. I wish you continued success on your project and your YT channel. Oh yeh, I subscribed too :-)
I went with oldschool Ford eec-iv efi, been running great for a decade,and can be built with junkyard parts. it is limited compared to the new aftermarket stuff, but I can get parts for it anywhere. pros and cons
My Pro Flo 4 works great after it's all warmed up, even in the summer. It must be warmed up for at least a minute before I'm allowed to put it in reverse. Even then, I have a 50/50 chance of stalling. Edelbrock told my installer they would have a firmware update in a month or two that would fix this problem. That was 8 months ago and nothing. Just get a Sniper. My neighbor loves his. Meanwhile, mine is like a box of chocolates...
The first time I watched your videos I thought you were a goober,but I was wrong your doing a pretty good job,,I have 5 old broncos,one is a 77 sport 1/2 cab I've had since 1979, there's nothing on the road today as cool as an old bronco,
Awesome vid.. alot of good info there. when i first saw your videos on fietech i got persuaded to buy it. it say brand new in box for over a year (it was for one of my many projects). when i finally got around to start working on it i came back to your channel to find out that you had many problems with fitech. at that point i posted it for sale. i figured im going to loose even more money if i install it and it dont work.. i ended up loosing about $300 on it. im glad edelbrock hooked you up with this. i will keep an eye out for a follow up vid 6 months down the road.
Great video!! I too have ran both systems and couldn't agree more with your comparison. Well except for the customer service. I have had horrible luck with both. They are equally useless in my experience. You did forget to mention one of the best differences in the user interface part though. The Edelbrock connects Bluetooth versus the ridiculous dual plug in on the Fitech handheld. It is SO nice not having to have anything plugged in if you want to run as a display and/or tune on the fly. Thanks for the great videos!!
I have the FiTech 400hp on my 83 F100 302 with in tank fuel pump from FiTech 58psi. So far 3k miles on it with no issues. I don’t need the extra tune ability with the more expensive unit. I installed it after watching all your videos, thank you. The in tank fuel pump makes a world of difference. I will posting some videos on it soon. Please do more videos on the Pro Flow 4, I would like to install it on my Pontiac 455 7.5L
1) I've always enjoyed your videos and appreciate how you portray everything with humility, humor, and candor; 2) I'm on the same path, can't remember if I got fitech before of after you, but I'm considering post-Fitech options; 3) I don't think I have your patience with some of these negative comments. I guess some people have nothing better to do than to waste their time to take the time to tell you they think you're wasting their time. Kudos to you for sharing great videos for us bronco guys and for handling comments in poor taste with tact. Also, for those "just stick to carb" dudes, they might not realize that many of us bronco guys prefer EFI for off-road capability. Speaking from experience, having the motor and power components DIE in when you're on a steep incline/decline, off camber or in a precarious angle on the side of a cliff is not fun. If properly set up EFI has tremendous advantages over carb for avid off-roaders (which many bronco guys are).
great video man ! been watching all your videos to date, im still a qjet carb user for now and thinkin more & more to switch over. i had seen, read & heard many small issues with fitech and things that didnt suit me, but this very video has me nearly convinved that i should go Ebrock :) hey great work, keep the vids and comparisons coming. cheers
Only thing that I didn't see in here that would have been great for other viewers to understand is the differences between sequential fuel injection and TBI fuel injection
Thanks for the info…. Hoping to get the Edelbrock Dominator. Also… do yourself a favor and buy yourself a couple pairs of “Flush Cuts” for snipping off wire ties so you don’t slice your arms open when working on your Bronco. These are what I have used from Amazon for years… they are inexpensive and work great. Hakko-CHP-170 Micro Cutter - Red
Thanks for the review. the information about the computer being internal to the throttlebody vs external is helpful. I am setting up a dual quad system for my Barracuda, and I see that FiTech and Edelbrock both have a dual quad setup, thing is, they are both around a thousand dollars more than a pair of AVS2 500 cfm carbs. I just don't see how I could justify going to this newfangled contraption...
Hey man, just want to say thanks for the video. Good honest review, well formated and informative. Im just doing some preliminary research before getting elbow deep into my first full rebuild/restoration on a 72 f100 w/302 4spd. I will definitely be watching more of your videos to see what youve come across and done. Keep the awesome vids coming.
THANK YOU for this video and your Install vid. I'm a Fitech user on the fence about going to the Flo Pro 4. That fact that you made that switch in your vids is invaluable to me. I'm running a modded Fitech Command Center for fuel, so I'm thinking I'm in good shape to run that to the Flo Pro 4 rail, since it's already capped at 58psi. I just need to invest in a fuel pump relay and get that wired up properly. Awesome job on these videos!!
Great video once again.... The manifold may have had some saying in this. I did manage to sell my Fitech and am now hopefully becoming a Coyote Bronco owner soon.
One thing for sure you were right about is that Fi Tech customer service is horrible! I spoke with a guy that sounded like he was eating the whole time I was on the phone with him! and unfortunately the 2nd time I called them I got the same Guy!
I am currently struggling with my Fitech after a year of dealing with it. After the first complete failure of the fuel command centre, to a complete reinstall including an in-tank pump and tank (provided my Fitech at cost due to the acknowledgement of the failed fuel command centre) it has been a challenge. Fortunately, this has been carried out by the shop who built and recommended the Fitech to me. After a few small glitches (a failed lifter and an intake leak) my truck is now running...but just running enough to take the truck for a drive (one hour round trip which, by the end it begins to lose performance enough to notice, perhaps due to ecu overheating due to location under the hood). The truck should boil the tires off the line but instead stutters until about 2500rpm before it smooths out. I have made some changes as per advice from others in the same boat with a little improvement, but still the issues remain (WOT from stop resulting in stuttering or sometimes die-out, engine going limp while coasting and other small glitches). Add to this the first handheld failing (screen kept sliding and altering settings on its own) and the second handheld felt like the toggle button broke the first time I used it and now doesn't feel quite right (but still works for now) and my confidence is slipping. I will say that, contrary to others who have shared their experience, that my support has been decent, but I had to reach higher up the chain to receive help (and got it). Unfortunately I am at the point where my confidence is considerably deteriorated and I am considering having the shop remove the system and go an alternate route (carb or Holley sniper) but I am hesitant to go efi again after this experience. :(
I've got a 600HP Fitech Unit with a G-Surge that is essentially a paperweight. It's sitting on my shelf collecting dust. Worst purchase of my life. I'm not a "tuner," but I work with modern fuel injection on a daily basis, and I couldn't make the car lean out. The self tuning capabilites were non existent, and I had a hand held problem on the first day of using it. Screen wouldn't power up. Tech support acted like they hated their job and didn't want to be there, so once they sent me a new handheld, I didn't contact them again for help with how the car was running. I put some miles on it against my better judgement with it running so rich, and tuned on it a little, and was slowly making some minor progress, but it was too little, too late. My engine was still fresh, and inevitably I washed the rings down. Now I'm fixing to pull the engine and throw in another set of rings due to oil consumption.
Back in the day I had a Mopar with lean burn, every summer that computer on the side of the air cleaner fried in the 110 Kansas heat. The Kansas Highway Patrol, ran the same set up but the lean burn computer was mounted on the kick panel. They never had problems Heat and ecu, fail, go figure LOL
i have a 85 blazer that want to build a 383, yeah i know everyone says to put a ls in it. but don't want all the electronics and connection issues with transmission and all. So want to go old school and have everything connected. thank you for the videos on the fuel injection set ups
Let's make this super simple... DO NOT buy anything from Fitech... EVER!!! I challenge anyone to sell worse products or provide worse tech support... I don't think it's even possible. Sorry Fitech... you earned this black eye... now wear it🤚👍
I have been watching all your videos and learning because i purchased the dual 1200hp Fitech setup and am trying to run them on my 6-71 blown 502 bbc....So far it has been an absolute NIGHTMARE...Piss Poor customer service,very difficult to navigate...I have basically resorted to taking it to a dyno shop and see if they can get it tuned properly...because of lack of customer service....GOD I HOPE I DIDN'T BLOW 2K....
You forgot to mention that the Edelbrock pro flow 4 comes with a air gap intake, and ofcourse its a muit port injection system, also the available fuel slump pump reservoir system.
Great video, even if it’s 3 years old. Looking into the Edlebrock system for the past 2 weeks, with a Holly super sniper at home, it definitely seems like the winner.
The Edelbrock Pro Flo 4 uses a single plane manifold that shifts your torque up to a higher RPM. If this is what you want, then no problem. But if not stay with the dual-plane manifold and a throttle body EFI or carburetor. For some reason Edelbrock does not offer port fuel injection on a dual plane manifold. But you can drill eight holes in a dual plane manifold to make one. And yes, Edelbrock intake gaskets do leak. Ask me how I know. 😑 The best 302-351W intake gaskets I have found are from Price Motor Sports. They have never leaked in 7 years of use.
I have the Fi-Tech on my 454 Chevelle. I just ordered the Edlebrock Pro-Flo a few days ago. My Fi-Tech 800 shorts out injectors so often I have resorted to keeping spare injectors and the tools I need to do a roadside repair in the glove box. It is not a hard repair, but the car stops with no warning. Last time I was on the I-80 freeway just outside Sacramento where people were driving like maniacs. Terrifying and awful. When the Fi-Tech is running, it runs good, it is superior to my old carb(s... went through a few of those), but it is not dependable. It turned my Chevelle into a 'Trailer Queen."
I bought a fi-tec for a 390 ford. Nothing but junk in my opinion! When I called support they wanted me to test parts with tools only a auto mechanic would own. They are not for do it yourselfer's such as myself. After 8 months of try to get it to run, it now sits on a shelf in my shop. (running carb again) I'm willing to try the Edelbrock. Thanks for the Vid!
I take it that Edelbrock PF4 system knocked it out of the park for You ! You have used it for a while now are You still happy with it ? Great video and content Thank You for Your thoughts and feelings ! 🇺🇸🇵🇷🦊👍
Good video. Have a 76 bronco in the shop that needs a total restoration. Has a 351w with a C4 in it that I will rebuild and install the EFI. You made my decision for which EFI easier.
Great job comparing the 2 efi systems...I really was rooting on the the Fitech system, for its cost and simplicity...ever since you bought it. Glad you figured most of the problems out with it....maybe after another year of R & D they will have a trouble free unit or a must have guidelines....WonderBar!!
3rd time I watched this and it's definitely making me want to sell my $300 rebuilt quadrajet that I have yet to get running right. I have an 83 Chevy k10 pickup and I've been fighting an off idle stumble now for 5 months. I'm by no means a carburetor expert either although I'm old enough that I was in my 20s when carbs went wayside to efi. I'm just a car guy and I'm capable of doing just about anything on a sbc even though it takes me awhile because of many sit down breaks. I'm just a little intimidated by the installation because I'm terrible with wiring and understanding wiring issues. Man! I wish that you could come up here to PA and help me do this lol. I've been a subscriber of your videos for sometime now and look forward to them.
Appreciate the kind words! If you do it, let me know how I can help. It is a big job, so take your time. But remember sometimes EFI will magnify your engine’s problems, so be prepared if it brings up issues that need to be fixed.
Fitech is the worst out of ALL the tbi systems. Cheap chinese junk that breaks and doesnt stay tuned. I install efi systems for a living and I wouldnt put a fitech on a scooter.
Pro m efi and be done with it. A little more but you pay for oem quality and the ability to change anything on the engine including adding a supercharger, and not have to re tune.
Interesting video . But they are 2 completely different ways of doing EFI . So it hard to compare them to each other apart from just how they drive . The carb type EFI is good if can't get a intake type EFI for your engine
I agree with you that it’s two different ways of doing EFI, but a lot of people are looking at these two units and trying to decide which one to go with.
I did not know about the FiTech computer issue. Good to know. Direct Port injection is a lot better as well. That would be why things are better on performance.
I've watched a few of your videos and subscribed. One thing that I noticed you haven't addressed and need to, is the current going through your vehicle is regards to "True Voltage". I put a FiTech on my 69 Failane w/302 and one of the early problems was that it ran, at times. rough but also showed signs of smooth running. I got into computers early on and discovered one of the major problems with PCs was the power supply. A PC electrical system designed on 12 volts needs to have a true 12 volts in this digital age. With that thought, I ran voltage tests on my electrical system and was getting readings of 11.2 -11.4 volts. I had a NAPA stock alternator on the car which develops a 35 AMP charge. I replaced it with a 150 AMP charge alternator and a buttload of problems with the EFI disappeared immediately. This can very easily be your problems with the hand helds and the fuel pumps. So far I have had neither. I will also tell you that my 302 was a fresh build and the new cam compliments the EFI. The car is literally "new" or re-furbished completely. The only problem I am now having is that I am getting some minor back firing when I let off the pedal or stomp it. I'm either running wet or my mechanical advance is not working, is what I'm thinking. Outside of that my car runs great. I just started my 69 Mach 1 project and I am putting a 429 in it and strongly considering a fuel rail EFI system in it but that project is at least 12 months out from completion. "Film @ 11:00"!
Fitech customer service is amazing. I have had nothing but hot soak problems with my 600 from day one. On hot days between 90 and 100 degrees I go into a store I come back out it will not start. I put ice on the front of the fitech where the computer is located it will start within 2 minutes. The other way to make sure it ran when I got out of the store is to open the hood before I go in so the heat can escape then of course it would start right up. I got so tired of that they replaced it twice. Finally they sent me one number three and they agreed to let me take the computer out of the throttle body on top of the engine and relocate the computer inside the car I mounted it on my air conditioner housing under the dash. It took a lot of spicing soldering and shrink wrap but I got it done. Now it starts and runs no matter how hot it gets under the hood. The other serious problem is the fuel pump the brushes wear out prematurely and the bearings start screaming in it and I replace fuel pumps almost monthly. The last fuel pump they sent me ran less than a week and it started sputtering yesterday one Me 1 mile from my home. The engine died in my driveway and I had to put a 4in chunk of ice on the fuel pump for 5 minutes it started right up I parked it in the garage and I will never use another fitech fuel pump again. I took my last fuel pump apart last week the brushes were shot and the veins that move the fuel we're out of shape the fuel filter was full of fuel pump shavings. I have not tried the fuel Command Center and probably won't.
I can’t wait till my tax return. Im getting that edelbrock pro flow. You’re dead on with the edelbrock customer service. They have the best customer service. Also that ECU not being in the throttle body is a game changer. They really did their homework on this.
Damn you NEB!!!... I purchased all of your FiTech recommended stuff last year (haven't installed yet...) when I found you. :-) I'll stick with the FiTech cuz most of the things that tripped you up don't apply (freshly rebuilt motor w/ new exhaust, in-tank fuel pump). +1 to the underboob sweat! Thanks for your great videos.
Ive just swapped out my 18 month old FiTech.. And fitted the Holley Sniper.. In 18 months with FiTech.. Ive had 7 weeks of no FiTech as it was broken out of the box and it took them 7 weeks to get me a replacement. Ive had 2 new injectors under warranty.. Replaced the FiTech pump as it was so noisy.. Had 2 handhelds.. And they are junk!! Had issues with the FiTech constantly. Despite messing with settings it would regularly cut out in traffic. I swapped it for a Sniper.. Changed nothing else.. And wow.. Its like a totally different truck.. I'm telling everyone.. Dont waste your money with the FiTech.. Its junk!
Thanks for the videos! Now that you have been through the whole gambit with EFI systems, would you have rather swapped with a modern EFI engine or you wanted to work with the Bronco's original powertrain as much as possible?
IDK about the edelbrock EFI set up but, the Fitech is a expensive paper weight. I had problems with it and I know know about 4 other guy's that had the same problems with it. Go with the Holley Sniper unit. Not much more and it a solid unit. I love it.
I see in your discription you had success with the fitech. Idk anyone who has ran it that has had success with that unit including myself. I had the power adder 600 unit. Actually just saw one on market place fella is selling because he is having issues as well.
So, I have a 5.0 swapped ranger, has oem explorer EFI, and I was part of a group of v8 Ranger guys, many ran aftermarket efi on older carb 302's, of that group, almost none that used FITech had any luck. They had constant problems. And ended up selling their kit for super cheap.. could be the engine bay heat, and fuel delivery issues.. soo.. take my advice, use factory style efi, or not the fitech.. the holley, edelbrock, or higher end stuff that plugs into an sct/laptop tuner that works.. soo..
Neither. I will never run EFI again. It will leave you on the side of the road when you least expect it. A Carburetor can be repaired just about anywhere. No more Computer crap on everything.
Smart move on the FelPro gaskets. For the readers, DO NOT use the Edelbrock gaskets. I installed my Pro Flo4 on my Bronco using the Edelbrock ones.... later that night a bunch of guys on the forums told me they leak and are garbage. 2 Failed O2 sensors later, i pulled it back off and used the FelPro's. No more leaking coolant into the exhaust ports. The Edelbrock gaskets split and leak almost immediately.
Did you find an INCREASE in fuel Economy ?
Thanks for not letting the trolls and the haters deter you from making great videos!
Thanks man!
I install the FITECH go street 400 on a 75 Bronco with a 351M making 300hp, I had all the same heating issues and controller fail and ecm fail which had to be sent back to FITECH. I solved the heat issue by venting the hood with a scoop. It lowered the engine bay temp by 35%.
FITECH customer service was just horrible to deal with. I installed the same unit on a 44 GMC with a 350, same thing, hand held controller failed. In my restoration shop, I will be trying the Edelbrock and the FAST EFI systems before I waste anymore time and money with FITECH. Thanks
I'm surprised you didn't mention for the extra say 300 for the edelbrock, you now have port injection. That makes a huge difference also. Great vid.
this dude obviously doesnt understand jack shit about efi or engines in general.
No accounting for 60 years of fuel management experience! Edelbrock all the way. Todd the retired trucker.
I went with Holley Sniper TBI. The handheld unit is ok but I primarily turn with my laptop. I've been super impressed by the power and drivability compared to a Holley 650 vacuum secondary carb. I'm an Edelbrock guy but I wasn't ready to go full multi-port yet. All I did was pop off the carb and slap on the throttle body. Next on my list is an entry level vortech centrifugal supercharger. That should put me at the limit of my 650hp Sniper unit.
I know this video is a few years old BUT I think edelbrock is hands down worth the money. With that unit, you get individual injectors for each cylinder which is also probably a little better on fuel. I personally like the individual injectors which is why I’m interested in looking to buy it. I’m actually looking to replace all of my 1991 suburban TBI with the edelbrock pro flow.
Did you ever swap out to the Edelbrock pro flow on your 91 suburban I have a 90 model Chevy K2500 I would like to do that to?
I HAD the FiTech 600 hp street unit ! The Holley Sniper EFI is a WAAAAAY better unit ! (FAR LESS GLITCHES) Holley really did there homework with the software ! YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR !!!!
I'm thinking of EFI for a 4.6 single cam modular motor. Motor is for gas roots racing so will not drive bbn on the street.
? Edelbrock or Holley? Your thoughts
Im looking at the sniper unit for my 460 in my 77 4x4.
Lietech is junk 💩💩💩
Holley Sniper is an excellent system. Honestly Holley over Edelbrock.
Not that Edelbrock is bad or anything, but Holley has power adders, whether Sniper, HP, Dominator, etc. The direct connection between handheld & ECU, so there is no wifi or connection issues, etc. No need to upgrade tabets, especially when they are continued to be used in mounting them inside the vehicle for monitoring purposes, or future adjustments. However the tablets are larger & somewhat better graphics.
Back in my work days, the company I was with expanded into the US market. Our product was more exy than our competitors. But we answered the phone. I was amazed at how many of our customers had horror stories about being hung out to dry by previous suppliers after they bought the product. It's made me really cautious about buying stuff from US businesses. So it's really great to hear about your experiences with Edelbrock.
Thanks for the video. I watched a few of your videos in August 2017 when I was installing my go Street 400 on my 66 Mercury Comet with a 289. I went from a two barrel single exhaust to a 4-barrel with dual exhaust to the fitech with a big radiator and electric cooling fan in about a six-month time frame. The biggest power booster was the fitech. I went from 10 MPG with the two barrel to 13 MPG with four-barrel and dual exhaust to 16 MPG with the fitech. I have been leaning it out over the last two weeks trying to improve my gas mileage. Today with the AFR at 16 to 1 for 3000 rpm cruise, I was at 16.5 MPG. My goal for the car is 20 MPG when I install an overdrive, so I think I'm on my way. It seems to pull the same MPG with or without the air conditioning on. I just set the 3000 RPM CRUISE AFR to 16.5:1 today - we'll see if it makes a difference. I'll drive this configuration until It breaks, and then its a three to four hundred horsepower crate motor and multi-port. Keep it up. I enjoy the videos.
I have the Fitech Go 600 in Australia, and agree with everything you said. Ive been lucky "so far" and had no issues at all. I have Holley Fuel pressure reg, and Aeromotive intank pump and not using Fitech for timing or fans. The less the ECU has to control, the better in my opinion. MultiPort injection is way better (edelbrock) than the Fitech is. If i ever have problems with Fitech I will look at a standalone system, as Edelbrock dont make a kit for Cleveland V8 as yet. The ECU does need alot of air to keep it cool, particularly in summer. I have installed a hood vent to try and add more air into the engine bay.
Contemplating making the switch from carb to FI, this was the first vid that I watched. Very informative and helpful. Thanks
Thanks for the vid. It's really informative. The only criticism I would offer is that you compare the power of the units, yet you did a cam swap and didn't have the ability to retune the FITech. The Edelbrock was installed and tuned on the new cam.
etheir way you look at it the edlebrock is still gonna be better. it has direct injection. with that much better distribution of the fuel your thottle response will be better cylinders wont burn unevenlly etc. I strongy dislike the holley sniper and the fi tech for the simple fact that their just like the tbi's gm introduced 33 years ago all they did was add 2 more barrels to it..
Great video. One thing though - comparing TBI (whether it's FiTech or Holley) to port injection isn't a straight comparison. Yes, the Pro-Flo is more $$$ but it's an entirely different system from the FiTech and will perform much, much better. An EFI kit that includes an intake manifold, throttle body, injectors, rails and distributor that does sequential port injection is worth more than just a 4 bbl TBI system. The additional cost is easily justified by the additional driveability and performance you will get with real port injection. The real comparison is to compare Pro-Flo to any other sequential port injection kits. Pro-Flo is sub-$2000. All others are ~$3000. That's a $1000 difference!!
Makes me feel good about my decision to go edlebrock. Not like I'll be able to run it for another 6 to 8 months but I will have it on fresh 347 stroker. I enjoy your enthusiasm for the system on how well it help make it a hassle free driving exsperiance so far.
Did it clear your stock hood with the height difference?
Yep
Doing something similar... supercharged 347.
@@NashvilleEarlyBronco PLEASE stay concise is your answers!! LOL
This is interesting to hear! It sounds like EdelBrock has really stepped their game up! I'm more than happy with the Sniper but if I had to change, I would definitely look into Edelbrock now.
First things first...love your videos! Second...thanks for your honest opinion of the two products, even though I feel it is not an apples to apples comparison. Third...I’m running the FiTech 400 HP with command center. I purchased it two years ago and installed it two weeks ago on my 1969 Ford F100 with 1971 351w. My handheld controller stopped working yesterday. It doesn’t work when plugged into the ECU or laptop...just black screen. I was able to complete my engine break in before the handheld stopped working. I’ve sent FiTech a message for tech support help and going to reach out to Summit (where I purchased it) and see if they are able to assist.
Now that you have the FiTech off and no longer rely on it for your Bronco, you easily send it back to them. At this point, this would probably benefit them more than you. It may help them work out some of their issues. Regarding cost: I also take into consideration the withdrawal something takes out of the bank of frustration. $200 dollars difference is a small cost for the sake of one's sanity. Thanks for the video.
I'm glad to hear this. I bought the edelbrock pro flow 4 for a small block chevy for my 85 firebird, but haven't switched to the v8 yet.
So youre gona put the edelbrock on the small block?
Edelbrock for me. I’ve never had a issue with anything Edelbrock. Top notch stuff. I’d buy the Edelbrock EFI based on confidence alone
Holley all the way
Also Pro 4 is sequential port injection vs throttle body injection. No comparison...
Need to do a vid with the Holley sniper
So glad your channel popped up in my search for Edelbrock Pro Flo 4 info! I appreciate that your experience applies to any older classic ride, not just Broncos. I have a '70 C10 ( not a Chevy snob, I think Fords are bitchin" as well) and am starting down the same path with fuel injection. Already have a Boyd rear tank w/ internal FI pump installed and had debated on some of the other brands, like FI Tech for my SBC. The installation video and the follow up comparison have been excellent and have certainly cemented my decision to go with Edelbrock. Your video is refreshing, with the (sometimes ugly and pricey) problems out there for us all to see. No fluff, just practical help and advice. I wish you continued success on your project and your YT channel. Oh yeh, I subscribed too :-)
Thanks David! Let me know if I can help anymore
Sweet! I'll just add the Edelbrock to my list that's already a mile long! Thanks for the 411! 😏😎 Did I mention my list is 25 years long! 🤪🤪
Haha! That beats my list!
@@NashvilleEarlyBronco what kind of milage you getting with these EFI's? 🤔😏
I love edelbrock performer intake...great power, quick rip , acceleration along with better cam and carb...
I went with oldschool Ford eec-iv efi, been running great for a decade,and can be built with junkyard parts. it is limited compared to the new aftermarket stuff, but I can get parts for it anywhere. pros and cons
hotrod had my HO EEC4 25 yr 👍👍👍
I have a ranger with a 5.0/302 explorer. eec-V. And it works, can tune it well also
My Pro Flo 4 works great after it's all warmed up, even in the summer. It must be warmed up for at least a minute before I'm allowed to put it in reverse. Even then, I have a 50/50 chance of stalling. Edelbrock told my installer they would have a firmware update in a month or two that would fix this problem. That was 8 months ago and nothing. Just get a Sniper. My neighbor loves his. Meanwhile, mine is like a box of chocolates...
The first time I watched your videos I thought you were a goober,but I was wrong your doing a pretty good job,,I have 5 old broncos,one is a 77 sport 1/2 cab I've had since 1979, there's nothing on the road today as cool as an old bronco,
Haha! I am a goober. Thanks man
Edelbrock literally got a team of scientists together to help me set up a 500 carb on a 300 L6 Ford. Took some doing but we got it done.
Awesome vid.. alot of good info there. when i first saw your videos on fietech i got persuaded to buy it. it say brand new in box for over a year (it was for one of my many projects). when i finally got around to start working on it i came back to your channel to find out that you had many problems with fitech. at that point i posted it for sale. i figured im going to loose even more money if i install it and it dont work.. i ended up loosing about $300 on it. im glad edelbrock hooked you up with this. i will keep an eye out for a follow up vid 6 months down the road.
Yeah I’m looking forward to putting a few months on it and seeing how it performs
Great video!! I too have ran both systems and couldn't agree more with your comparison. Well except for the customer service. I have had horrible luck with both. They are equally useless in my experience. You did forget to mention one of the best differences in the user interface part though. The Edelbrock connects Bluetooth versus the ridiculous dual plug in on the Fitech handheld. It is SO nice not having to have anything plugged in if you want to run as a display and/or tune on the fly.
Thanks for the great videos!!
That’s a great point! I did forget that!
Man, am I glad you did this comparison. I was trying to decide between the both for my 302. But Iv been leaning towards the Edelbrock
Great video I have so been looking forward to this review on edelbrock pro flo 4 only thing missing was fuel mileage but great video thank you👌👌
I have the FiTech 400hp on my 83 F100 302 with in tank fuel pump from FiTech 58psi. So far 3k miles on it with no issues. I don’t need the extra tune ability with the more expensive unit. I installed it after watching all your videos, thank you. The in tank fuel pump makes a world of difference. I will posting some videos on it soon. Please do more videos on the Pro Flow 4, I would like to install it on my Pontiac 455 7.5L
Awesome!
Fitech is only one that makes a dedicated power adder unit for blow thru. Edelbrock has awesome customer service .
Holley makes a power adder unit. Its called super sniper 650/1200. I have the 650 on my car. It's a great unit. I had the fitech and it's trash.
I have heard bad and good with all of them . may just spend the money and go with fast efi setup.
Saw Edelbrock featured your vid. That's sweet. Keep making great content.
Nice! Thanks man
Nice Video, Nice to see honest review . Still looking at all the different efi systems . Cheers
1) I've always enjoyed your videos and appreciate how you portray everything with humility, humor, and candor; 2) I'm on the same path, can't remember if I got fitech before of after you, but I'm considering post-Fitech options; 3) I don't think I have your patience with some of these negative comments. I guess some people have nothing better to do than to waste their time to take the time to tell you they think you're wasting their time. Kudos to you for sharing great videos for us bronco guys and for handling comments in poor taste with tact.
Also, for those "just stick to carb" dudes, they might not realize that many of us bronco guys prefer EFI for off-road capability. Speaking from experience, having the motor and power components DIE in when you're on a steep incline/decline, off camber or in a precarious angle on the side of a cliff is not fun. If properly set up EFI has tremendous advantages over carb for avid off-roaders (which many bronco guys are).
great video man ! been watching all your videos to date, im still a qjet carb user for now and thinkin more & more to switch over. i had seen, read & heard many small issues with fitech and things that didnt suit me, but this very video has me nearly convinved that i should go Ebrock :) hey great work, keep the vids and comparisons coming. cheers
Thanks man!
Only thing that I didn't see in here that would have been great for other viewers to understand is the differences between sequential fuel injection and TBI fuel injection
Thanks for the info…. Hoping to get the Edelbrock Dominator.
Also… do yourself a favor and buy yourself a couple pairs of “Flush Cuts” for snipping off wire ties so you don’t slice your arms open when working on your Bronco. These are what I have used from Amazon for years… they are inexpensive and work great.
Hakko-CHP-170 Micro Cutter - Red
Thanks for the review. the information about the computer being internal to the throttlebody vs external is helpful. I am setting up a dual quad system for my Barracuda, and I see that FiTech and Edelbrock both have a dual quad setup, thing is, they are both around a thousand dollars more than a pair of AVS2 500 cfm carbs. I just don't see how I could justify going to this newfangled contraption...
Hey man, just want to say thanks for the video. Good honest review, well formated and informative. Im just doing some preliminary research before getting elbow deep into my first full rebuild/restoration on a 72 f100 w/302 4spd. I will definitely be watching more of your videos to see what youve come across and done. Keep the awesome vids coming.
Awesome!
THANK YOU for this video and your Install vid. I'm a Fitech user on the fence about going to the Flo Pro 4. That fact that you made that switch in your vids is invaluable to me. I'm running a modded Fitech Command Center for fuel, so I'm thinking I'm in good shape to run that to the Flo Pro 4 rail, since it's already capped at 58psi. I just need to invest in a fuel pump relay and get that wired up properly. Awesome job on these videos!!
Thanks Mike!
Confirms my choice for my 460 build coming up! Thank you
Same
Great video once again.... The manifold may have had some saying in this. I did manage to sell my Fitech and am now hopefully becoming a Coyote Bronco owner soon.
Woohoo!!!
One thing for sure you were right about is that Fi Tech customer service is horrible! I spoke with a guy that sounded like he was eating the whole time I was on the phone with him! and unfortunately the 2nd time I called them I got the same Guy!
Thanks for doing the comparison, top vid!
I am currently struggling with my Fitech after a year of dealing with it.
After the first complete failure of the fuel command centre, to a complete reinstall including an in-tank pump and tank (provided my Fitech at cost due to the acknowledgement of the failed fuel command centre) it has been a challenge. Fortunately, this has been carried out by the shop who built and recommended the Fitech to me.
After a few small glitches (a failed lifter and an intake leak) my truck is now running...but just running enough to take the truck for a drive (one hour round trip which, by the end it begins to lose performance enough to notice, perhaps due to ecu overheating due to location under the hood). The truck should boil the tires off the line but instead stutters until about 2500rpm before it smooths out. I have made some changes as per advice from others in the same boat with a little improvement, but still the issues remain (WOT from stop resulting in stuttering or sometimes die-out, engine going limp while coasting and other small glitches). Add to this the first handheld failing (screen kept sliding and altering settings on its own) and the second handheld felt like the toggle button broke the first time I used it and now doesn't feel quite right (but still works for now) and my confidence is slipping.
I will say that, contrary to others who have shared their experience, that my support has been decent, but I had to reach higher up the chain to receive help (and got it). Unfortunately I am at the point where my confidence is considerably deteriorated and I am considering having the shop remove the system and go an alternate route (carb or Holley sniper) but I am hesitant to go efi again after this experience. :(
Ouch! Sorry man
Great video man! I just received a Pro Flo for my 410W so I hope I get the same experience as you! My previous FiTech ECU got fried on the manifold
I've got a 600HP Fitech Unit with a G-Surge that is essentially a paperweight. It's sitting on my shelf collecting dust. Worst purchase of my life. I'm not a "tuner," but I work with modern fuel injection on a daily basis, and I couldn't make the car lean out. The self tuning capabilites were non existent, and I had a hand held problem on the first day of using it. Screen wouldn't power up. Tech support acted like they hated their job and didn't want to be there, so once they sent me a new handheld, I didn't contact them again for help with how the car was running. I put some miles on it against my better judgement with it running so rich, and tuned on it a little, and was slowly making some minor progress, but it was too little, too late. My engine was still fresh, and inevitably I washed the rings down. Now I'm fixing to pull the engine and throw in another set of rings due to oil consumption.
Ouch! Sorry man!
Thank you for this video, I am hoping Holley, MSD and FAST contact you soon.
That would be amazing
You just talked me out of both of them I'll stick with my carburetor thank you very much
Back in the day I had a Mopar with lean burn, every summer that computer on the side of the air cleaner fried in the 110 Kansas heat.
The Kansas Highway Patrol, ran the same set up but the lean burn computer was mounted on the kick panel. They never had problems
Heat and ecu, fail, go figure LOL
Haha! Yep!
i have a 85 blazer that want to build a 383, yeah i know everyone says to put a ls in it. but don't want all the electronics and connection issues with transmission and all. So want to go old school and have everything connected. thank you for the videos on the fuel injection set ups
Let's make this super simple... DO NOT buy anything from Fitech... EVER!!! I challenge anyone to sell worse products or provide worse tech support... I don't think it's even possible. Sorry Fitech... you earned this black eye... now wear it🤚👍
Kevin Vandergaag I agree Im ready to switch back to my carb after the fuel pressure issues
Come on man.. once i replace all the sensors and injectors and replace the ecu with microsquirt itll be reliable....
Don’t buy aces either
I have been watching all your videos and learning because i purchased the dual 1200hp Fitech setup and am trying to run them on my 6-71 blown 502 bbc....So far it has been an absolute NIGHTMARE...Piss Poor customer service,very difficult to navigate...I have basically resorted to taking it to a dyno shop and see if they can get it tuned properly...because of lack of customer service....GOD I HOPE I DIDN'T BLOW 2K....
You forgot to mention that the Edelbrock pro flow 4 comes with a air gap intake, and ofcourse its a muit port injection system, also the available fuel slump pump reservoir system.
I installed it on my Ford FE and I love it,
Great video, even if it’s 3 years old. Looking into the Edlebrock system for the past 2 weeks, with a Holly super sniper at home, it definitely seems like the winner.
That’s awesome! Glad to help
Pretty good review, bro!!
Thanks!
The Edelbrock Pro Flo 4 uses a single plane manifold that shifts your torque up to a higher RPM. If this is what you want, then no problem. But if not stay with the dual-plane manifold and a throttle body EFI or carburetor. For some reason Edelbrock does not offer port fuel injection on a dual plane manifold. But you can drill eight holes in a dual plane manifold to make one. And yes, Edelbrock intake gaskets do leak. Ask me how I know. 😑 The best 302-351W intake gaskets I have found are from Price Motor Sports. They have never leaked in 7 years of use.
I have the Fi-Tech on my 454 Chevelle. I just ordered the Edlebrock Pro-Flo a few days ago. My Fi-Tech 800 shorts out injectors so often I have resorted to keeping spare injectors and the tools I need to do a roadside repair in the glove box. It is not a hard repair, but the car stops with no warning. Last time I was on the I-80 freeway just outside Sacramento where people were driving like maniacs. Terrifying and awful. When the Fi-Tech is running, it runs good, it is superior to my old carb(s... went through a few of those), but it is not dependable. It turned my Chevelle into a 'Trailer Queen."
I totally suck at carb tuning, so does most of the mechanics in my area. Driving 3 hours just to tune a carb? EFI looks good.
I bought a fi-tec for a 390 ford. Nothing but junk in my opinion! When I called support they wanted me to test parts with tools only a auto mechanic would own. They are not for do it yourselfer's such as myself. After 8 months of try to get it to run, it now sits on a shelf in my shop. (running carb again) I'm willing to try the Edelbrock. Thanks for the Vid!
I take it that Edelbrock PF4 system knocked it out of the park for You ! You have used it for a while now are You still happy with it ? Great video and content Thank You for Your thoughts and feelings ! 🇺🇸🇵🇷🦊👍
It still runs great! Definitely recommend it
@@NashvilleEarlyBronco Thank You for the feedback I appreciate it ! 🇺🇸🇵🇷🦊👍
Good video. Have a 76 bronco in the shop that needs a total restoration. Has a 351w with a C4 in it that I will rebuild and install the EFI. You made my decision for which EFI easier.
Happy to help!
Love my Fitech meanstreet...never had a problem with it.....makes tons and tons of power.
Great job comparing the 2 efi systems...I really was rooting on the the Fitech system, for its cost and simplicity...ever since you bought it. Glad you figured most of the problems out with it....maybe after another year of R & D they will have a trouble free unit or a must have guidelines....WonderBar!!
I would take it, haha!
I just traded a 14 bolt rear end for a summit efi brand new in the box cant wait to install it
Thank you for all your videos.
I will buy either Edelbrock or Holly
I’m an Edelbrock guy all the way. I named my number 4 daughter Cammy. Same name different spelling but it was because of Vics daughters name.
Holley all the way
Always informative !!
Liked and subbed ✔️
Thank you!
3rd time I watched this and it's definitely making me want to sell my $300 rebuilt quadrajet that I have yet to get running right. I have an 83 Chevy k10 pickup and I've been fighting an off idle stumble now for 5 months. I'm by no means a carburetor expert either although I'm old enough that I was in my 20s when carbs went wayside to efi. I'm just a car guy and I'm capable of doing just about anything on a sbc even though it takes me awhile because of many sit down breaks. I'm just a little intimidated by the installation because I'm terrible with wiring and understanding wiring issues. Man! I wish that you could come up here to PA and help me do this lol. I've been a subscriber of your videos for sometime now and look forward to them.
Appreciate the kind words! If you do it, let me know how I can help. It is a big job, so take your time. But remember sometimes EFI will magnify your engine’s problems, so be prepared if it brings up issues that need to be fixed.
Fitech uncomplicated and simple, for V8 the best I've seen so far.
Fitech is the worst out of ALL the tbi systems. Cheap chinese junk that breaks and doesnt stay tuned. I install efi systems for a living and I wouldnt put a fitech on a scooter.
Pro m efi and be done with it. A little more but you pay for oem quality and the ability to change anything on the engine including adding a supercharger, and not have to re tune.
Great video! Going with the Edelbrock after seeing this for my 408 stroker
Thank you 🤘🏼
Interesting video . But they are 2 completely different ways of doing EFI . So it hard to compare them to each other apart from just how they drive . The carb type EFI is good if can't get a intake type EFI for your engine
I agree with you that it’s two different ways of doing EFI, but a lot of people are looking at these two units and trying to decide which one to go with.
Great video my brother
Much appreciated
I did not know about the FiTech computer issue. Good to know. Direct Port injection is a lot better as well. That would be why things are better on performance.
I've watched a few of your videos and subscribed. One thing that I noticed you haven't addressed and need to, is the current going through your vehicle is regards to "True Voltage". I put a FiTech on my 69 Failane w/302 and one of the early problems was that it ran, at times. rough but also showed signs of smooth running. I got into computers early on and discovered one of the major problems with PCs was the power supply. A PC electrical system designed on 12 volts needs to have a true 12 volts in this digital age. With that thought, I ran voltage tests on my electrical system and was getting readings of 11.2 -11.4 volts. I had a NAPA stock alternator on the car which develops a 35 AMP charge. I replaced it with a 150 AMP charge alternator and a buttload of problems with the EFI disappeared immediately. This can very easily be your problems with the hand helds and the fuel pumps. So far I have had neither. I will also tell you that my 302 was a fresh build and the new cam compliments the EFI. The car is literally "new" or re-furbished completely. The only problem I am now having is that I am getting some minor back firing when I let off the pedal or stomp it. I'm either running wet or my mechanical advance is not working, is what I'm thinking. Outside of that my car runs great. I just started my 69 Mach 1 project and I am putting a 429 in it and strongly considering a fuel rail EFI system in it but that project is at least 12 months out from completion. "Film @ 11:00"!
Thank you! I’ve heard voltage effects the EFI, and I totally agree with you.
This video was very very helpful and educational thank you I appreciate this very much
Great video, thank you for the education. I learned so much.
Fitech customer service is amazing. I have had nothing but hot soak problems with my 600 from day one. On hot days between 90 and 100 degrees I go into a store I come back out it will not start. I put ice on the front of the fitech where the computer is located it will start within 2 minutes. The other way to make sure it ran when I got out of the store is to open the hood before I go in so the heat can escape then of course it would start right up. I got so tired of that they replaced it twice. Finally they sent me one number three and they agreed to let me take the computer out of the throttle body on top of the engine and relocate the computer inside the car I mounted it on my air conditioner housing under the dash. It took a lot of spicing soldering and shrink wrap but I got it done. Now it starts and runs no matter how hot it gets under the hood. The other serious problem is the fuel pump the brushes wear out prematurely and the bearings start screaming in it and I replace fuel pumps almost monthly. The last fuel pump they sent me ran less than a week and it started sputtering yesterday one Me 1 mile from my home. The engine died in my driveway and I had to put a 4in chunk of ice on the fuel pump for 5 minutes it started right up I parked it in the garage and I will never use another fitech fuel pump again. I took my last fuel pump apart last week the brushes were shot and the veins that move the fuel we're out of shape the fuel filter was full of fuel pump shavings. I have not tried the fuel Command Center and probably won't.
Wow! That’s pretty awesome they did that for you! That is great customer service!
I can’t wait till my tax return. Im getting that edelbrock pro flow. You’re dead on with the edelbrock customer service. They have the best customer service. Also that ECU not being in the throttle body is a game changer. They really did their homework on this.
Update for you. Pro Flo 4 Sbf kit w/o tablet is now $1895. With tablet $2195.
Pro-Flo is $2300 now and does not come a tablet anymore. FiTech has a new lower HP system for trucks for $869.
Damn you NEB!!!... I purchased all of your FiTech recommended stuff last year (haven't installed yet...) when I found you. :-) I'll stick with the FiTech cuz most of the things that tripped you up don't apply (freshly rebuilt motor w/ new exhaust, in-tank fuel pump). +1 to the underboob sweat! Thanks for your great videos.
Hahaha! Learn from me
Ive just swapped out my 18 month old FiTech.. And fitted the Holley Sniper.. In 18 months with FiTech.. Ive had 7 weeks of no FiTech as it was broken out of the box and it took them 7 weeks to get me a replacement. Ive had 2 new injectors under warranty.. Replaced the FiTech pump as it was so noisy.. Had 2 handhelds.. And they are junk!! Had issues with the FiTech constantly. Despite messing with settings it would regularly cut out in traffic. I swapped it for a Sniper.. Changed nothing else.. And wow.. Its like a totally different truck.. I'm telling everyone.. Dont waste your money with the FiTech.. Its junk!
Great video. Thx Jonathan
Edelbrock tech called you back, because of the bro-mance you were kindling.
Hahaha!!! Don’t be jealous 😉
Very helpful video I've been thinking of the edelbrock pro flow 4 system . Or the Holley sniper EFI
Good videos dude!!! These fuel injection kits are pretty cool but I still am fairly loyal to my quadrajet. Change my mind!!! Haha.
You've sold me I've been thinking about it and now I have a heading
Happy to help
Thanks for the videos! Now that you have been through the whole gambit with EFI systems, would you have rather swapped with a modern EFI engine or you wanted to work with the Bronco's original powertrain as much as possible?
Thanks for the video very informative
You bet!
IDK about the edelbrock EFI set up but, the Fitech is a expensive paper weight. I had problems with it and I know know about 4 other guy's that had the same problems with it. Go with the Holley Sniper unit. Not much more and it a solid unit. I love it.
I see in your discription you had success with the fitech. Idk anyone who has ran it that has had success with that unit including myself. I had the power adder 600 unit. Actually just saw one on market place fella is selling because he is having issues as well.
So, I have a 5.0 swapped ranger, has oem explorer EFI, and I was part of a group of v8 Ranger guys, many ran aftermarket efi on older carb 302's, of that group, almost none that used FITech had any luck. They had constant problems. And ended up selling their kit for super cheap.. could be the engine bay heat, and fuel delivery issues.. soo.. take my advice, use factory style efi, or not the fitech.. the holley, edelbrock, or higher end stuff that plugs into an sct/laptop tuner that works.. soo..
Neither. I will never run EFI again. It will leave you on the side of the road when you least expect it. A Carburetor can be repaired just about anywhere. No more Computer crap on everything.
not yrbsns I agree with you man
not yrbsns the only time EFI has ever put me on side of the road was fuel pump failure. Ethanol fuel loves to destroy fuel pumps.
I don't use ethanol. And i have been sitting several times because of computer problems. I prefer non electronic cars.
Thanks super helpful - considering Edelbrock on my Rotrex boosted 283 SBC on the channel.