Took me 5 min to get a better sound from this plugin than months with my AX8... probably says a lot about me, but hopefully it says a lot about the plugin.
"Volume compensation for the second impulse response" as you say it, should be an urgent update to all Neural DSP products. Its the only thing i don't like in the previous releases.
i actually thought the same thing. the volume compensates when you add a second, but then there's no mix control and it's a constant game of trying to get back to unity gain
Not sure if it’s that big a deal tbh. Assuming all the IRs are normalized/auto-normalized to full-scale, just cut both IRs by 6dB. If they are coherent, they’ll sum back up to full-scale.
@@DroneCorpse That's exactly what it does. But if your mic gains are set differently there's still a volume difference switching the second mic on/off.
Great video. The User manual was very vague with how each component worked. It didn't even explain that the Crunch Amp was like a Marshall where adjusting the Master adds some compressed mids. They need to make the guide more like Waves plug ins which properly explain what each knob is actually doing.
What a great sound design monster plugin. Thank you for making such passionated things possible. Feel the urge to throw it on every group channel track in my current mixing project as efx send-returns. So amazing :) A overall plugin mixknob - dry / wet would be great for audio engineers. Keep it up guys and skip the iLok crap some day ;)
Well, I have no doubt about Archetype Nolly, the only thing I'm always curious when I watch these videos on RUclips is, these guitar riffs sounds I'm hearing while watching your video, where does it come from? is it recorded directly through your audio interface and then save that video as MP4 or mp3?
I know it might be me who is not a skilled mixer, but I still struggle to get a decent tone in a mix with this. I feel it’s either to muddy and muffled when using the high gain amp, or du grainy (not clear sounding) when using the crunch amp. I’ve tried a bunch of things like using the EQ like the pros tell you, tried checkinh my DI. There is nothing wrong with my interface. I think I might need a new drum plugin, I have this conviction that you need good drums to make the guitars sound decent. At least for distorted guitars.
Hey! Not OP but I find the key to that chimey and cutting single coil high gain tone is wiring of your pickups, you want the inner coils of your humbuckers to be wired in parallel. On top of that a British style high gain amp helps, and picking the right cab/IR is important too.
@@Tangalang22 You can check out the Tesseract cover on my channel for a 5150 Tesseract tone. The key is long enough scale length on the low A string (to use a thin enough string), and a neck pickup in coil split/single coil mode. I have a danelectro baritone (30") which sounds even glassier/crunchier/more aggressive than the record, which afaik uses a 27" baritone vs the 26.5" on the strandberg
So far this has been the most amp like pluggins that I have tried from your company. It would be nice in future pluggins to have stereo delay with separate parameters and/or a delay in which can one dictate the tempo. I am currently experimenting with the trial, which amp would you say comes closer to Holdsworth type lead sound?
This plugin is surprisingly versatile, rock, metal, lead, djent, chugg, even shoegaze and post rock thanks to that delay pedal in front of the gain stages. So well done.
Turn down your input or the volume on the track your levels should be only around halfway up the meter, turn the speakers up if you want more volume. Check cables too.
Does each preset save settings for all amps and cabs? If delay is active in the preset is it active for all amps or can you have different stomp and post fx settings per amp?
It looks like it. I have the Henson and Wong plug ins and looking for another one. I want the Gojira for the pitch effects but I just know Nolly’s is going to sound better overall.
When I first tried the demo, I was like what a piece of crap, sounds like cardboard. Realised my latency was selected at nearly 9 seconds! Changed to 0.7 seconds and was like wow, this is amazing hahaha
Are there any known bugs in the trial version? Mine seems unusually noisy. Have to turn the Gate up way too high to sort of tame it. Thought that maybe my interface was malfunctioning, but my other Neural DSP and STL plug-ins sound perfectly fine.
I used to have the same problem with some plugins. Some would sound fine while others were very noisy. I started running my guitar through a Zoom MS-50G into the audio interface. On the interface I turned Pads off, Switched to Line and everything sounded clearer and better than ever. The Zoom is a multi effects stomp box but I'm not running anything on it, It's just turned on and in between my guitar and audio interface. If I remove it, then all the noise comes back. The trial version I'm using for the Nolly Archetype runs fine on my Mac though, and I never even tweaked the noise gate from default setting. Maybe try a DI Box or a pedal like a Tuner in between your signal to the audio interface.
Check if the power supply works correctly. I know by myself that some suppliers can introduce unwanted noise, as it is the case with my MacBook 😂. The reason behind this, could be that the audio interface I'm using does not share the same GND reference as the wall-plug-supplier, hence if I don't touch the MacBook chassis to relate those device to the same voltage reference, i would hear some tiny but annoying hum.
The playing, the pickups, the state of strings, there are a lot of things involved. A Fretless bass tends to be slightly less aggressive, especially if you use flatwounds.
@@ripperthecrooks6428 Depends on what sort of setup you want. If you have two DI's routed to a bus(each DI is set hard L and R before the bus), click on stereo mode so the plugin will affect L and R independently. If your plugin is in stereo mode, you can't pan the IR's internally. Probably would cause phasing issues between the left and right guitar. If you want to get creative with IR panning, you'll need to set up an instance of nolly on the individual DI tracks with a stereo output so it'll pan the IR's properly.
The only thing i don't like is GATE - it's either not enough or cuts the real notes too early, totally unusable. In the demo the parts between the notes are cuted from the tracks, so there is no noise.
Great! Would love to get a free license...but everybody can dream of something right haha.... I will download the trial right after I come back from Holidays ...maybe I’ll do a review on my IG channel 😁💪
I know the feeling! I'm currently dreaming of a free 7 string with a floyd rose to add to my collection. 😂😂 Tag me in the review! I'd love to check it out!
Hey we're It Bleeds, we're a metal band from Milwaukee, Wisconsin! We just put out a new album, check it out on our channel, check out the song 27 . Super inspired by Contortionist, Periphery and Death Metal/Thrash
Took me 5 min to get a better sound from this plugin than months with my AX8... probably says a lot about me, but hopefully it says a lot about the plugin.
Using the trial at the moment.. I'm so impressed.
"Volume compensation for the second impulse response" as you say it, should be an urgent update to all Neural DSP products. Its the only thing i don't like in the previous releases.
i actually thought the same thing. the volume compensates when you add a second, but then there's no mix control and it's a constant game of trying to get back to unity gain
Not sure if it’s that big a deal tbh. Assuming all the IRs are normalized/auto-normalized to full-scale, just cut both IRs by 6dB. If they are coherent, they’ll sum back up to full-scale.
@@xsonicassassinx Exactly! A simple left and right percantage based interface like NadIR's would be much effective
@@Aaabii That a great idea! 😁
@@DroneCorpse That's exactly what it does. But if your mic gains are set differently there's still a volume difference switching the second mic on/off.
Amazing plug-in - best yet from Neural DSP!
Totally agree!
Fortin nameless is king
Love it too!
Great video. The User manual was very vague with how each component worked. It didn't even explain that the Crunch Amp was like a Marshall where adjusting the Master adds some compressed mids. They need to make the guide more like Waves plug ins which properly explain what each knob is actually doing.
Fantastic plugin and breakdown... and many thanks for the presets, Steve!
Love the Adam Jones tones Nolly has. My favourite Archetype.
Great job Steven once again! Thank you Neural for changing the game! Aloha!
Thanks, zach! Cheers! 🤘😁🤘
Can you run that cello in the back through the Archetype: Nolly?
I'm working on a cello cover right now so definitely!
What a great sound design monster plugin. Thank you for making such passionated things possible. Feel the urge to throw it on every group channel track in my current mixing project as efx send-returns. So amazing :) A overall plugin mixknob - dry / wet would be great for audio engineers.
Keep it up guys and skip the iLok crap some day ;)
Yo, how about that update for the Nolly? It needs a tuner and updated midi functionality
Thank You
I just love this plugin
the fortin sounds amazing
Amazing video dude 🔥🤘
Just wanna return the gabage Bias FX/AMP/Pedal, and my kemper and ax 8 becomes a great decorate in my room~
Angust Young same..
I have a mess boogie dual rec, two notes torpedo live, and a mesa cab that are there just collecting dust now. Lol
Ax8 ? 🤪
Best Plugin bought！！！
Well, I have no doubt about Archetype Nolly, the only thing I'm always curious when I watch these videos on RUclips is, these guitar riffs sounds I'm hearing while watching your video, where does it come from? is it recorded directly through your audio interface and then save that video as MP4 or mp3?
These presets are game changers. I have nolly and nts.
I know it might be me who is not a skilled mixer, but I still struggle to get a decent tone in a mix with this. I feel it’s either to muddy and muffled when using the high gain amp, or du grainy (not clear sounding) when using the crunch amp. I’ve tried a bunch of things like using the EQ like the pros tell you, tried checkinh my DI. There is nothing wrong with my interface. I think I might need a new drum plugin, I have this conviction that you need good drums to make the guitars sound decent. At least for distorted guitars.
Hey Steve - Not seeing the Nolly presets on the drive folder? or am I missing something. Excellent video, I'm really excited to dig into this suite
Just uploaded them! 😁
@@TheRealStevenWard excellent!! thanks so much Steven
@@Frankt1100 Any time! Let me know what you think of the presets and feel free to share your own in the FB group too! 😁
I really wish I could afford this plugin
It'll be there when you can. 😊
Hey dude. Sign up emails from Neural. It may be half price soon.
Get a cracked version of the plugin. Took me like 10 mins to find it
Can you guys discuss single coil dirty tones like from Tesseract?
I'd love to! Tesseract is one of my favorite bands so i'll happily bring them into the fray at some point. 🤘😁🤘
Hey! Not OP but I find the key to that chimey and cutting single coil high gain tone is wiring of your pickups, you want the inner coils of your humbuckers to be wired in parallel. On top of that a British style high gain amp helps, and picking the right cab/IR is important too.
@@XiyuYang any experience with a 5150 style amp?
@@Tangalang22 You can check out the Tesseract cover on my channel for a 5150 Tesseract tone. The key is long enough scale length on the low A string (to use a thin enough string), and a neck pickup in coil split/single coil mode. I have a danelectro baritone (30") which sounds even glassier/crunchier/more aggressive than the record, which afaik uses a 27" baritone vs the 26.5" on the strandberg
So far this has been the most amp like pluggins that I have tried from your company. It would be nice in future pluggins to have stereo delay with separate parameters and/or a delay in which can one dictate the tempo. I am currently experimenting with the trial, which amp would you say comes closer to Holdsworth type lead sound?
You have access to this is you just use the plugin within a daw.
Can anyone tell me what the red overdrive 2 is based on...
I need it as a pedal in the REAL world xD
Neural DSP keep up the good work
How come my Archetype Nolly sounds so fizzy and digital compared to this?? Ive tried everything, even a DI box and emg pickups
Did you find why it sounds like that? I have similar problem but only helix native and not with nolly! How odd!
We need ENGL simulation also
Hi. Love the Nolly plugin. I can't use the preset folder. Can you help me please?
This plugin is surprisingly versatile, rock, metal, lead, djent, chugg, even shoegaze and post rock thanks to that delay pedal in front of the gain stages. So well done.
Thanks! I absolutely agree!
Is that double tracked or stereo??
I seem to get crackle on my gain tones..doesn’t matter what I change with the hz or ms...constantly questioning it 😢
Turn down your input or the volume on the track your levels should be only around halfway up the meter, turn the speakers up if you want more volume. Check cables too.
Where can I get these extra plugins? I bought the plugin 2 days ago
What pre Amps or DI box is required ?? Are these all just tones straight off the plug plugged into the sound card ???
where are these presets ??
Does each preset save settings for all amps and cabs? If delay is active in the preset is it active for all amps or can you have different stomp and post fx settings per amp?
Is this still worth picking up in 2023? I have Gojira and Petrucci and I absolutely love them.
It looks like it. I have the Henson and Wong plug ins and looking for another one. I want the Gojira for the pitch effects but I just know Nolly’s is going to sound better overall.
When I first tried the demo, I was like what a piece of crap, sounds like cardboard. Realised my latency was selected at nearly 9 seconds! Changed to 0.7 seconds and was like wow, this is amazing hahaha
how do u change latency
0.7 seconds? that's still _real_ bad
Are there any known bugs in the trial version? Mine seems unusually noisy. Have to turn the Gate up way too high to sort of tame it. Thought that maybe my interface was malfunctioning, but my other Neural DSP and STL plug-ins sound perfectly fine.
Hmm... I'm not experiencing that myself. I'd hit up support@neuraldsp.com for that. They'll sort you out, for sure!
I used to have the same problem with some plugins. Some would sound fine while others were very noisy. I started running my guitar through a Zoom MS-50G into the audio interface. On the interface I turned Pads off, Switched to Line and everything sounded clearer and better than ever. The Zoom is a multi effects stomp box but I'm not running anything on it, It's just turned on and in between my guitar and audio interface. If I remove it, then all the noise comes back.
The trial version I'm using for the Nolly Archetype runs fine on my Mac though, and I never even tweaked the noise gate from default setting.
Maybe try a DI Box or a pedal like a Tuner in between your signal to the audio interface.
Check if the power supply works correctly.
I know by myself that some suppliers can introduce unwanted noise, as it is the case with my MacBook 😂.
The reason behind this, could be that the audio interface I'm using does not share the same GND reference as the wall-plug-supplier, hence if I don't touch the MacBook chassis to relate those device to the same voltage reference, i would hear some tiny but annoying hum.
Cant for the life of me get this kind of tone. Is it my audio interface? I'm using a scarlett 2i2 with a 5 string schecter fretless bass
The playing, the pickups, the state of strings, there are a lot of things involved. A Fretless bass tends to be slightly less aggressive, especially if you use flatwounds.
Maybe because this plugin is made for guitars
@@Saxoprane it's most definitely got a couple bass settings.
Archetype: VOGG!! GO!!!
I'm already drooling!! 😂😂
How do I use the click in the standalone??
Are you going to add a tuner? In the future?
640 is "almost 1000"?
Chorus ?
Andy James plugin kicked this one's ass in a comparison I heard.
The other way round imo
When turning on the 2nd IR in stereo mode, does it send 1 to L and 2 to R? How does that work when recording?
Not automatically. There are pan knobs in the IR section so you can pan one left and one right.
@@TheRealStevenWard so how do you do that? You send 2 tracks on a bus with archetype nolly and hard pan them both ?
@@ripperthecrooks6428 Depends on what sort of setup you want. If you have two DI's routed to a bus(each DI is set hard L and R before the bus), click on stereo mode so the plugin will affect L and R independently. If your plugin is in stereo mode, you can't pan the IR's internally. Probably would cause phasing issues between the left and right guitar. If you want to get creative with IR panning, you'll need to set up an instance of nolly on the individual DI tracks with a stereo output so it'll pan the IR's properly.
The only thing i don't like is GATE - it's either not enough or cuts the real notes too early, totally unusable. In the demo the parts between the notes are cuted from the tracks, so there is no noise.
and a 7 sring my homie
Great! Would love to get a free license...but everybody can dream of something right haha.... I will download the trial right after I come back from Holidays ...maybe I’ll do a review on my IG channel 😁💪
I know the feeling! I'm currently dreaming of a free 7 string with a floyd rose to add to my collection. 😂😂 Tag me in the review! I'd love to check it out!
damn
the first time for all the releases of plugins by Neural I did not like
behemoth shirt biased
the 5150 ia horribl wo screamer
Yah you definitely need a tube screamer in front for those nice high gains.
dont buy from neural dsp until they sell the pedals separately and add transpose and stereo to all their sims.
Hey we're It Bleeds, we're a metal band from Milwaukee, Wisconsin! We just put out a new album, check it out on our channel, check out the song 27
. Super inspired by Contortionist, Periphery and Death Metal/Thrash
I can solve all of your guys and girls problems right this second. Practice ! --- and when you think you are done practice some more.
I don’t hear NO differents when you switch the pedals on/off...? :-)) There is simply too much gain already.
Really too bad. 4 Amps and no cleans are possible 😉🤘🏽
doesn't work. sounds like crap and nothing like anything amd youtube and years later of research no one still knows why
Did you change the latency to under 1 second. It's set really high
@@joshmuz9018 no how do you do that? and how would latency change the tone?
@@alexosle up on the settings part. It makes it sound like plastic to beautiful tone in just one click of a button
I dont see anything about latency in the settings :/ just inputs outputs sound driver buffer and hz
@@alexosle it's been a while since I used it. But it's like a little icon on the control panel. Just click on all of them and try
BAD Demo, or this the real sound?
Are you monitoring with a potato or something?
Sorry but I don't like it.
And that's not a problem at all. :)