I have watched hundreds of hours of Viper gameplay and there is something I noticed. Viper almost always plays to outboom his opponent and deal the “knockout blow” in post-imp. Not always, but that definitely seems to be where he is most comfortable. We are always trying to make less army in feudal to click up faster, add more TCs, make more vills than our opponent. And the assumption is that we snowball and win in post imp. And since Viper is so good at the game, this strat basically beat everyone in the past. But there is a clear flaw. If your lategame comp is worse than your opponent, and you can’t kill him before he gets to his, then it doesnt matter it you make it to post imp first. Once you’re both there it’s whoever had the better lategame comp wins. And this brings me to another thing. Scout line is just better than other lines right now. Hera has shown you can win games by going scouts into light cav into hussar with support units like scorps and siege behind. Viper wants to play civs to their strengths as intended and wants some variety and I understand, but if you’re playing to win, you open scouts almost every game and make hussar/light cav lategame. The unit it just that good. But Viper doesn’t want to play like that and I fully understand, it’s boring. But if you want to win (like how Heart plays) you have to recognize these things
I wrote this comment before even finishing the video but it’s a more perfect example than I thought. Here Koreans “perfect” lategame comp is wagon halb. But this gets countered by full skirm, which Heart is already on
It’s a hard matchup. You either have to use your archer/skirm bonus early to do damage (but that’s pretty hard tbf) or you have to try to kill lategame. But the issue here isn’t just mobility. It’s that Viper continued to make halb wagon when Heart was full skirm. And trying to counter skirm with mangonel. So you’re trading wagons and mangonels (gold units) for skirms (trash). What you need is hussar, to kill skirms and to raid. Not having last armour hurts for sure but they will still destroy skirms and they will still kill vills when they raid. When you are ahead in eco, you are in a position to go 80 farm hussars, swarm your opponent’s base, force him into halbs, giving you time to take full map control, castles everywhere, and then once Heart is stuck making halbs trying to clear the raids, that’s when you push down the middle with some onager-wagon-treb deathball and try to close out the game.
Scout line is a must in most open maps where raids, not pushes decide games. Koreans have hussars. And Heart like you said, was already on skirms. You don't wanna play your civs "as intended". Play to adapt to the map and what the opponent is doing. That's good decision making.
maybe you should have built some walls to help with your lack of mobility.
He refuses to accept it and it's the difference of winning or not these days for him
Simple rule. If you see backseating in the comments, Viper lost.
so is fertility
Du dum tıss
"composition is hard countered by scrims only".. lmao he had those numbers pre-castle and still went wagons/halbs
22:52 has a knight running in place.
I have watched hundreds of hours of Viper gameplay and there is something I noticed. Viper almost always plays to outboom his opponent and deal the “knockout blow” in post-imp. Not always, but that definitely seems to be where he is most comfortable. We are always trying to make less army in feudal to click up faster, add more TCs, make more vills than our opponent. And the assumption is that we snowball and win in post imp. And since Viper is so good at the game, this strat basically beat everyone in the past. But there is a clear flaw. If your lategame comp is worse than your opponent, and you can’t kill him before he gets to his, then it doesnt matter it you make it to post imp first. Once you’re both there it’s whoever had the better lategame comp wins. And this brings me to another thing. Scout line is just better than other lines right now. Hera has shown you can win games by going scouts into light cav into hussar with support units like scorps and siege behind. Viper wants to play civs to their strengths as intended and wants some variety and I understand, but if you’re playing to win, you open scouts almost every game and make hussar/light cav lategame. The unit it just that good. But Viper doesn’t want to play like that and I fully understand, it’s boring. But if you want to win (like how Heart plays) you have to recognize these things
I wrote this comment before even finishing the video but it’s a more perfect example than I thought. Here Koreans “perfect” lategame comp is wagon halb. But this gets countered by full skirm, which Heart is already on
It’s a hard matchup. You either have to use your archer/skirm bonus early to do damage (but that’s pretty hard tbf) or you have to try to kill lategame. But the issue here isn’t just mobility. It’s that Viper continued to make halb wagon when Heart was full skirm. And trying to counter skirm with mangonel. So you’re trading wagons and mangonels (gold units) for skirms (trash). What you need is hussar, to kill skirms and to raid. Not having last armour hurts for sure but they will still destroy skirms and they will still kill vills when they raid. When you are ahead in eco, you are in a position to go 80 farm hussars, swarm your opponent’s base, force him into halbs, giving you time to take full map control, castles everywhere, and then once Heart is stuck making halbs trying to clear the raids, that’s when you push down the middle with some onager-wagon-treb deathball and try to close out the game.
Scout line is a must in most open maps where raids, not pushes decide games. Koreans have hussars. And Heart like you said, was already on skirms. You don't wanna play your civs "as intended". Play to adapt to the map and what the opponent is doing. That's good decision making.
Poor Koreans :( hope your mobility gets better soon 🙏📿
wagons are terrible
Siege onager and halb ?
Gotta have hussars screening that slow ass comp.