The best way to stop headphone tangles

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • Welcome to Pro-tip. This week, Dieter Bohn teaches you the best way to wrap any cable so it won’t ever tangle in your bag or in your pocket. Learn the scout wrap!
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Комментарии • 533

  • @mikeyp5130
    @mikeyp5130 8 лет назад +504

    Good for cutting the life of a cable in half.

    • @quatros1000
      @quatros1000 8 лет назад +48

      +Michael Plutt you can always buy another cable for only 99 dollars.

    • @SniperNator305
      @SniperNator305 8 лет назад +4

      quatros1000 Where do you get official Apple cables, high end headphone cables, and even just some Skullcandies for 99¢? If you know how, I'll order one of each and give you an extra 99¢ for the favor

    • @sharknadopart6232
      @sharknadopart6232 8 лет назад +43

      +SniperNator he said $99

    • @mikeyp5130
      @mikeyp5130 8 лет назад

      Lol

    • @NoypiSaItaly
      @NoypiSaItaly 8 лет назад +22

      honest mistake by SnipierNator, next time he'll use his scope..

  • @McMoney69
    @McMoney69 8 лет назад +277

    DO NOT DO THIS TO YOUR CABLES. THEY WILL BREAK. use the classic over under technique, there is no tension on the wires in the cable and it won't get tangled.

    • @JacobJGiffin
      @JacobJGiffin 8 лет назад +17

      quality advice^

    • @iLikePotato3s
      @iLikePotato3s 8 лет назад

      Head

    • @RavenPH12
      @RavenPH12 8 лет назад +40

      What is the over under techniques?

    • @JacobJGiffin
      @JacobJGiffin 8 лет назад +8

      +Joey Baseball Why would you ask that question in RUclips comments? just Google it!
      then again,that's all Dieter had to do too...

    • @RavenPH12
      @RavenPH12 8 лет назад

      Joey Baseball witty. ;)

  • @bricemilleson
    @bricemilleson 8 лет назад +164

    this is a joke right -_-.......

    • @DannyRice01
      @DannyRice01 8 лет назад +3

      nooe

    • @quatros1000
      @quatros1000 8 лет назад +17

      Designed in California

    • @AnandRao19
      @AnandRao19 8 лет назад

      +quatros1000 best comment !

    • @kyoko703
      @kyoko703 8 лет назад +11

      +Brice Milleson i can't believe i just watched someone do the same thing that i've done since i was a kid...... where are my RUclips views? :p

    • @dardanm3544
      @dardanm3544 8 лет назад

      I mean it's nice if you're traveling or something, unnecessary if you're keeping it in your pocket tho

  • @quanathan
    @quanathan 8 лет назад +75

    thank god i read these comments

  • @LongclawGG
    @LongclawGG 8 лет назад +7

    I've always done the under-over method that most people do when they wrap extension cables or instrument cables and the like. Just do the same with headphones/USB cables/whatever, and put them in a little pouch in your bag. Keeps the cables healthy and not broken and you don't have to worry about them getting tangled up with other crap in your bag if you have a smaller little bag/pouch to put them in. Definitely worth it.

  • @shakib1024054
    @shakib1024054 7 лет назад +5

    have been doing this for a year since watching the video. works great. the headphone is still working fine

  • @briancaster2876
    @briancaster2876 8 лет назад +13

    Careful doing that, you can kink your cord cord and end up with a short.

  • @KriLL325783
    @KriLL325783 8 лет назад +126

    This is a very good way to make your cables break quickly.

    • @darksunrise957
      @darksunrise957 8 лет назад

      +Christian Gerefalk Exactly what I was thinking!

    • @mateusmarta1943
      @mateusmarta1943 8 лет назад

      +Jordi Santini me too. Rip CIEMs

    • @backlon
      @backlon 8 лет назад +7

      +Christian Gerefalk I haven't had issues, but I could see having them if you wrap it too tightly or use this method on the wrong kind of cable. Should have mentioned!

    • @KriLL325783
      @KriLL325783 8 лет назад +2

      ***** fair enough, yeah tightness is a big factor, loose enough should be fine, but I've seen so many people handle cables like rope, pulling hard on it and making really tight coils etc, makes me cringe every time.

    • @Q974
      @Q974 8 лет назад

      but companies already wrap the cables like that when they pack them in boxes with phones

  • @mastersirus1985
    @mastersirus1985 8 лет назад +45

    I always use Johnson & Johnson No More Tangles, Works Every time

  • @ZenKnights
    @ZenKnights 8 лет назад +34

    i just snapped one my earphones.. thanks..

    • @ReconsOfficeal
      @ReconsOfficeal 8 лет назад +1

      hahaha n00b

    • @gamesmaker1
      @gamesmaker1 8 лет назад

      +Zenox Thanatoz i hope you are a troll, cause it takes much to be this stupid

    • @ZenKnights
      @ZenKnights 8 лет назад

      not troll. maybe be i put up to much power to it.. or maybe my earphone just too old.. around a year or so.

    • @markhowards420
      @markhowards420 6 лет назад

      Zenox Thanatoz had the wire gone brittle?
      I've repaired mine more in the last year than in the previous decade but it's because they're made with silicone outer insulation and it reacts with the oils from my skin.

  • @acido44
    @acido44 5 лет назад +9

    I've been doing this with my headphones for years and they've never broken.

  • @imranhq13
    @imranhq13 8 лет назад +84

    slow day at the office?

    • @sillyKit
      @sillyKit 8 лет назад

      maybe

    • @irvingaguilarqueen
      @irvingaguilarqueen 8 лет назад +1

      +Imran Haque nothing better to do ¬.¬ than to give a wrong advice

  • @swedish_meatball
    @swedish_meatball Год назад

    So I saw this video when it was originally posted 7 years ago, and have used this method ever since. Thank you for showing me this simple but yet helpful little trick for everyday life!

  • @ahmadhasan7055
    @ahmadhasan7055 8 лет назад +4

    these two minutes will be missed

  • @CoCoChicCosom
    @CoCoChicCosom 6 лет назад +3

    Thank you for doing a quick simple video. Glad it’s not a 10 minute documentary and efficiently pack

  • @weatherep0rt
    @weatherep0rt 8 лет назад +1

    Dieter was the perfect one to do this lol he's so funny but in a subtle way

  • @brainsfordinner7196
    @brainsfordinner7196 8 лет назад +12

    I don't know about headphones but I bet they are like extension cords where the wires inside get twisted up if you wind them this way.

  • @chuchodrill
    @chuchodrill 8 лет назад +1

    I use to do this with my shoe laces and Started to do this with headphones in middle school like 8 years ago I'm sure I'm not the first but my way looks cleaner, it does help to preserve a headphones life, had my IPod headphones for one year and a few months until they broke from the jack while running.

  • @leifforrest
    @leifforrest 8 лет назад +1

    Best way to wrap short cables like headphones! However, he leaves too much at the end to wrap around the coil. About 3 wraps around the coil works better, that way you don't get the "springy" cable syndrome.

  • @nanfoodles
    @nanfoodles 8 лет назад +37

    No mess but a great way to shorten the life of your cables and ear buds.

    • @TruckerGuy135
      @TruckerGuy135 8 лет назад

      exactly what I was thinking, nice way to twist up the wires inside

  • @nikkorocksalot5254
    @nikkorocksalot5254 8 лет назад

    As a fellow Old, I appreciate the time saving tips of Dieter. keep on with the snazz.

  • @ParteekChhabra
    @ParteekChhabra 8 лет назад +2

    Thanks for this video...changed my life....

  • @MichaelGomesPly
    @MichaelGomesPly 8 лет назад +1

    Been doing this for years, I was shown it by a sound technician for managing microphone and speakers cables :)

  • @momo.ru-kun
    @momo.ru-kun 8 лет назад +17

    great way to break your earphones in less than a month

    • @irvingaguilarqueen
      @irvingaguilarqueen 8 лет назад

      +Alvin Capalad can't you see he's using a useless earphones xD he just doesnt care

    • @NerdsWithFriends
      @NerdsWithFriends 8 лет назад +1

      No flame war or anything but I've been using a very similar method for years and have had zero issues.

    • @irvingaguilarqueen
      @irvingaguilarqueen 8 лет назад

      Nerds With Friends you said so
      A VERY SIMILAR METHOD but not the same
      so if you use this 1 youre going to lose your earphones.

    • @NerdsWithFriends
      @NerdsWithFriends 8 лет назад +1

      +Irving Aguilar fair enough. And I've never tried this exact method (I like the way I do it just fine) it just doesn't APPEAR to be any harsher than the way I've been doing it.

    • @irvingaguilarqueen
      @irvingaguilarqueen 8 лет назад +1

      Nerds With Friends you should do a real tutorial with real solutions :3 just a tought :3
      so we can have nice advices for the real life
      & not this lies
      I think he must be working at general electric or samsung or whatever & hes actually telling us ´how to break your expensive earphones, you bought 5 months ago; so you can come and buy buy buy buy anothers :P xD lol

  • @alwaysarcastic
    @alwaysarcastic 8 лет назад

    I just use a carrying case that came with a previous wireless earbuds to carry my earbuds, keeps it neat and uncoiled. I have a small travel case in my bag for extra tech things like batteries, screen wipes, extra earbuds, 2-1 lightning/micro-usb charging cables. When traveling I use a grid-it mat to keep it all in order of I'm carrying more.

  • @colmakesvideo
    @colmakesvideo 8 лет назад

    the amount of tension that puts on the point where the wire meets the plug is going to make the weak rubber split and fray your wires even faster, and if you accidentally put pressure on one of the tightly folded wires you're going to fuck the whole cable up

  • @brettito
    @brettito 8 лет назад +1

    How much you leave depends on the thickness of the cable. I like to use 3 wraps personally so the cable doesn't look like a phone cord at one end. How much you leave depends on how thick the overall wrap is. Leaving 8-10 inches is too much.

  • @elliotsakimoto7026
    @elliotsakimoto7026 8 лет назад +1

    A lot of people are saying that this is going to mess up your cables... I don't think it will, because if you do it properly, there are no sharp creases. In my experience, that's what kills most cables.

    • @JacobJGiffin
      @JacobJGiffin 8 лет назад +1

      it's not just the sharp edges that kill the cable (at least not completely). The biggest problem with this method is that you're wrapping it against the wire's natural coil. this generates significant tension and warping over time, and can eventually fray the wire in spots. while maybe not a huge deal with cheap headphones, it definitely is with more expensive and thicker power cables, xlr cables, etc.

    • @NerdsWithFriends
      @NerdsWithFriends 8 лет назад

      I've been doing something very similar for several years now and haven't had any issues. Especially on my EarPods. I did go thru several pairs of skull candy but I concluded they are just junk.

    • @elliotsakimoto7026
      @elliotsakimoto7026 8 лет назад

      +Jacob Giffin fair point. I just have a pair of cheap, crappy headphones, so...

  • @Receptical
    @Receptical 8 лет назад +1

    I've been doing this for a few years, works great.
    Pro tip don't pull to hard, or rap it too tight, just enough to secure it... its not rope.

  • @dotter8
    @dotter8 8 лет назад

    I use an old pill bottle. The bottle is about 1.25"X3.25". I hold the cord by the plug end and give it a couple seconds to dangle and untangle. Then I bring the elements up to the plug so the cord is folded in half. Then I fold it in half again, again, once more. Now it just fits inside the pill bottle, not too snug, not too loose. I put on the cap and my headphones are dry, secure and pocket-proof. To use them, I just pull them out and give them a little shake.

  • @taitaisanchez
    @taitaisanchez 8 лет назад +1

    I tried this with my Shure 215s with the iOS volume/play/mic cable. If you've got an annoyingly large mic doodad on yours, grab it by the mic, then wrap the remaining cord around your fingers, then wrap the headphones into the cord on the other end. Works like magic.

  • @WattsAYetiMan
    @WattsAYetiMan 6 лет назад

    I've been doing this for 2 years since I've watched this video, thanks Dieter matee

  • @snackmasterb
    @snackmasterb 8 лет назад

    TIP :: *USED TO THINK I WAS SMART FOR WRAPPING LIKE THIS for months with my heaphones, until about every 2-3 months of doing it multiple times a day, shorted 3 pairs.
    NOW I USE a small 2"x2" spring open flat pouch to store them (think tiny coin pouch), and wind the headphone cable in loose full circes. Has not shorted a cable in 6-7 months so far.. (There are no sharp bends) And it doesn't make the wires curly when you take it out.
    The flatness, plus the spring opening, holds the earbud part in place and it's easy to pull out untangled. No need to tie any knots or under/over. Just slip the loose coil in.

  • @berkeguven123
    @berkeguven123 8 лет назад +94

    İphonedo dan gelenler :D

  • @Lamechei
    @Lamechei 8 лет назад +4

    Totally a great method to spoil any cables fast! Definitely recommend to anyone who loves buying new cables!

  • @HotdogFish1
    @HotdogFish1 8 лет назад +29

    Never never wrap your headphones like that...

    • @irvingaguilarqueen
      @irvingaguilarqueen 8 лет назад +1

      +Isaac Ahn accurate! this content shouldnt be on youtube as a How To

    • @adnamamedia
      @adnamamedia 8 лет назад +1

      So, do? You used a double negative so I don't know if i can trust you

  • @jeffreythelin7397
    @jeffreythelin7397 8 лет назад

    Exactly! I've been doing this for years. Lifechanging.

  • @mojikjohn
    @mojikjohn 3 года назад

    It actually changed my life by getting the earphones in two halfs ( not that much just got the cable torren and the stuff inside is safe. It still works though )

  • @Jstroman221
    @Jstroman221 8 лет назад +2

    The most crucial part at the end I keep messing up. Step by step close up instructions needed for me. Has anyone got it the first time? Any links to a more clear demonstrations please drop me a link below. 👇

    • @gavinv2772
      @gavinv2772 8 лет назад +5

      Don't do this, it shortens your cable life

  • @Ltmotley
    @Ltmotley 2 месяца назад

    Thank you for the great technique. Appreciate it very much! It is saving me so much time every day. Great work!

  • @MrC0MPUT3R
    @MrC0MPUT3R 8 лет назад +32

    I've been doing this for years... I thought everyone knew already

    • @Mr123awesomecoolio
      @Mr123awesomecoolio 8 лет назад

      I know!!

    • @samvannoyen713
      @samvannoyen713 8 лет назад

      Me too...

    • @VR_Wizard
      @VR_Wizard 8 лет назад

      +MrC0MPUT3R So why do we had to wait until now. You could have made a video many years ago.

    • @MrC0MPUT3R
      @MrC0MPUT3R 8 лет назад +1

      Christoph Geske "I thought everyone knew already"
      It's helpful to read comments in their entirety before commenting

    • @quatros1000
      @quatros1000 8 лет назад +1

      Apple invented it recently

  • @catalan500_8
    @catalan500_8 8 лет назад +2

    I just wrap my headphones fully around four of my fingers and it works just as well except I don't have to tie them.

  • @vinu6575
    @vinu6575 8 лет назад

    The discovery of the century...well done done

  • @macky2green
    @macky2green 8 лет назад +1

    Great tech lifehack here. 😉 Thanks for sharing.

  • @MalcolmleonardChannel
    @MalcolmleonardChannel 8 лет назад +1

    This indeed has changed my life

  • @kwill1000
    @kwill1000 8 лет назад

    Keep these coming

  • @frankseptillion
    @frankseptillion 8 лет назад +3

    The wires inside the cable is gonna get fucked up all over.

  • @imransahabdeen508
    @imransahabdeen508 8 лет назад

    keep on doing these kinds.. very useful bro

  • @DragoonGalaxy7
    @DragoonGalaxy7 8 лет назад +6

    don't do this it's a scam it bricks your earphone like that 1970 date thing on the iPhone

  • @frgproductions6165
    @frgproductions6165 8 лет назад +1

    This man saved my life

  • @boaw69
    @boaw69 8 лет назад

    the best way to destroy every cables you use.
    great upload. 10/10 would not use on my earphones or any other cables.

    • @NerdsWithFriends
      @NerdsWithFriends 8 лет назад

      Seriously though- I've been doing something almost exactly like this for years and have never had an issues. I'm not sure where everyone thinks the tension is coming from unless my method is somehow better b

  • @willparkinson
    @willparkinson 8 лет назад +1

    Turn the middle side topwise. Topwise!

  • @sargonsharokein1261
    @sargonsharokein1261 8 лет назад +2

    My brother taught me this when I was 7

  • @notafilms8909
    @notafilms8909 8 лет назад

    This is some life changing stuff

  • @BrentSalamorin
    @BrentSalamorin 8 лет назад +36

    More like the best way to cut the lifespan of your headphones in half

    • @Antenox
      @Antenox 8 лет назад +6

      +Brent Salamorin Your headphone cables are most likely to fail at the joints, i.e. where they join to the earbuds or where it joins to the jack. This doesn't affect your cable lifespan at all.

    • @Shadowboost
      @Shadowboost 8 лет назад +1

      +Antenox You are tensioning your cable every time you pull this open. RIGHT at the joint

    • @Antenox
      @Antenox 8 лет назад

      Shadowboost
      No, you're not. You're holding it slightly below the joint. That's why you leave a little bit of slack so that you don't grip it right at the joints.
      I've been using this method for years. None of my earbuds have broken because of this method. Of course, I've since started using Bluetooth earbuds and headphones, so this technique is kind of moot for me now.
      On that note:
      Use Bluetooth earbuds and headphones! Marginal sound quality loss, ENORMOUS increase in convenience!

    • @epicrunscapetime
      @epicrunscapetime 8 лет назад +2

      +Brent Salamorin Yeah because tangling them in your pocket then spending a minute untangling them when you pull them out of your pocket is a better option...

    • @Shadowboost
      @Shadowboost 8 лет назад

      rsiku Or just get an iem case...

  • @DutchDread
    @DutchDread 8 лет назад +1

    I sometimes do this, but it still unravels, plus it ruins your cable.

  • @sxybasturd
    @sxybasturd 8 лет назад +42

    Now teach people how to eat soup

  • @HandheldAddict
    @HandheldAddict 8 лет назад

    Yes a Dieter vid. I can finally ask if he's related to Bridget Carey of CNET. They look like brother & sister, or at least cousins.

  • @augurelite
    @augurelite 8 лет назад

    The Verge's videos are so pretty

  • @sketchbook_worm
    @sketchbook_worm 4 года назад

    you just saved my entire school year
    thank

  • @MachielvanderWal
    @MachielvanderWal 8 лет назад +3

    I would like to call it the hungergames method

  • @thatotherotherotherguy
    @thatotherotherotherguy 8 лет назад

    I use a Fetzer valve with some 3-in-1 oil and some gauze pads and about ten quarts of anti-freeze, preferably Prestone. No, no make that Quaker State.

  • @DanielnKitavi
    @DanielnKitavi 7 лет назад

    This really changed my life.

  • @israrahmad869
    @israrahmad869 8 лет назад

    thanks for the tip!

  • @dowco1
    @dowco1 8 лет назад

    Any risk cables will break inside? Specially more brittle, or less flexible ones, like power cables, etc.

    • @TEEMOproduction
      @TEEMOproduction 8 лет назад

      I broke 2 pair using this method,I recommend not using this method.

  • @neelamgupta6572
    @neelamgupta6572 6 лет назад

    That seriously helped man!!!👍👍👍

  • @sstrider_11
    @sstrider_11 8 лет назад

    thanks for the tip

  • @biancarodriguez7362
    @biancarodriguez7362 6 лет назад

    This help me so much thank you

  • @swordianzero1
    @swordianzero1 8 лет назад

    MIND BLOWN!

  • @DuncanZ64
    @DuncanZ64 8 лет назад

    Wow, this is actually pretty great. It takes up a lot less space in my pocket.

  • @Mannymammoth1
    @Mannymammoth1 8 лет назад

    Omg this is so hard! Can you do like 30 min video about it?

  • @apple8kamk
    @apple8kamk 8 лет назад

    More dieter pro tips plz ;)

  • @miraceyupoglu4081
    @miraceyupoglu4081 8 лет назад +3

    saturday night fun time method 1:43

  • @prithvianilkumar4758
    @prithvianilkumar4758 8 лет назад

    Excellent channel.... you just earned a sub!

  • @kevinmiz225
    @kevinmiz225 8 лет назад +1

    I know the best way to get rid of headphone tangles! Have this thing called "patience". Pretty simple...

  • @prasoonkumar97
    @prasoonkumar97 8 лет назад

    Life changing stuff ........... thanks

  • @ANALCLAW
    @ANALCLAW 8 лет назад

    Wow I've been doing it right this whole time...thanks!

  • @34zporlier10
    @34zporlier10 8 лет назад

    I just make a loose loop around my and and keep a bread tie on one end to keep it from coming apart.
    Its just as fast.

  • @olufunkelolafolorunso5229
    @olufunkelolafolorunso5229 3 года назад

    Thanks I will give it a try

  • @ssranon
    @ssranon 8 лет назад

    LOL this is common sense. I've been doing exactly this for about 20 years now.
    FWIW, this technique doesn't seem to affect the lifespan of my cables, besides, usually some new tech makes the cable obsolete before it wears out.

  • @chinesesparrows
    @chinesesparrows 8 лет назад

    Rather useful, thanks!

  • @Hollow9Tail
    @Hollow9Tail 8 лет назад +2

    but apple headphones are not made to withstand constant twisting and tangling. One wrong pull and u have a broken headphone

    • @irvingaguilarqueen
      @irvingaguilarqueen 8 лет назад

      +Ye_Ze indeed xD

    • @NerdsWithFriends
      @NerdsWithFriends 8 лет назад

      No flame war or anything but I've been using a very similar method for years and have had zero issues. And the Apple EarPods have consistently been the most durable headphones I've had. They even regularly go thru the wash. The only time I've ever broken them is if the fall from my pocket and are still attached to the phone and I step on them while walking.

  • @arealcleverusername
    @arealcleverusername 8 лет назад +3

    Thank you, Obi-wan.

  • @holmanw21
    @holmanw21 8 лет назад +3

    Concerning Apple earbuds, when you bend the phones this tightly, it ruins the reception. Nice try!

  • @Addictson365
    @Addictson365 Год назад

    Thank you

  • @kabitasamiaakter9285
    @kabitasamiaakter9285 8 лет назад

    wow it was so helpful😙i always struggled with this

  • @Gizmodzz
    @Gizmodzz 8 лет назад

    Really nice idea for a video!

  • @shubhamagarwalurl
    @shubhamagarwalurl 8 лет назад

    What kind of sorcery was his Desktop setup?

  • @rogerwilkoson
    @rogerwilkoson 8 лет назад +1

    Signal cables such as HDMI, ethernet or coax cables shouldn't be bent like he suggests. Big loops...BIG LOOPS!

  • @itsmeakj
    @itsmeakj 5 лет назад

    quick and efficient!

  • @whitey5150420
    @whitey5150420 8 лет назад +1

    if you want your cords to look like you've been hiding cooked spaghetti noodles in ur buttcrack then yes do this 👍

  • @jameshobbs
    @jameshobbs 8 лет назад

    I've got a bigger problem... My shoes keep coming untied. any tips Dieter?

  • @CalebTham
    @CalebTham 8 лет назад +1

    I've always done this.

    • @kingditto5149
      @kingditto5149 8 лет назад +2

      This method ruins your ear buds quickly

    • @CalebTham
      @CalebTham 8 лет назад

      King Ditto Not really. I've never broken a pair of ear buds and I very rarely replace them

  • @OraEtLabora0
    @OraEtLabora0 8 лет назад

    WOW! continental europeans (yes, excluding UK) are astonished that you HAVE TO TEACH your fellow countrymen something so trivial !!!
    it's called common sense and kids here can do it without anyone telling them...

  • @MHTwigg
    @MHTwigg 4 месяца назад

    Ty!🎉

  • @nugenki
    @nugenki 8 лет назад

    I only do this for cables I want to store for a long time because if you do this over again over again, the cables create a bias and the headphone wires won't fall naturally

    • @nugenki
      @nugenki 8 лет назад

      +Nugenrules And another thing! It takes approximately 5 seconds to untangle my earphones, and no time to throw them in my pocket. That's way quicker than rolling them up methodically, and then unrolling them.
      The only valid point you throw out is that it is unsightly. Of course, this is still just another point of view

  • @Vendzor
    @Vendzor 8 лет назад +4

    Wow, was expecting something better :/

  • @PTNLemay
    @PTNLemay 8 лет назад

    My first instinct was to scoff, but... that's actually kind of cool.

  • @MartinOlminkhof
    @MartinOlminkhof 8 лет назад

    not bad but you tighten it so much you put creases throughout the cable, what I do is similar but looser so it ends up in more of a circle shape

  • @driesschoepen7889
    @driesschoepen7889 8 лет назад

    what's the name of the monitor stand/the thing on his desk?