Washington’s offense and defense is actually really good but the penalties are killing us. Especially the size of the penalties and the timing of them.
True, I 💯 agree with you. I think it's more about all of the change & transition. 40+ new players. New coaches, staff, strength coach, AD, starters & depth. I wish we had Rogers another season. Penix k ew the previous coaching staff and it took him until year 2 to set it off. We're going to be good.
@@sontewong9935 Penix only knew DeBoer and Sheridan I believe. Other than that it was a completely new environment with completely new players. I don't believe Rodgers would have had the same success under the same circumstances.
@@sontewong9935 plus after Deboer's win over Georgia this weekend one can make the argument that at the very least he's a way better coach than Jedd Fisch.
Remember when you asked if the WSU performance was a fluke or a sign of more bad things to come and I was “negative” for saying a sign of bad things? If your coach looks completely overwhelmed by the moment and in over his head @ Rutgers who was allowing us to gain 9yards per play and literally couldn’t win if UDUB just got an early 2-score lead and vs WSU who gave up 52pts to SJSU after we only scored 19pts and Ashton Jeanty himself scored 9 more points on WSU than we scored them as an entire team, then as someone who gets paid $7.5M a year to beat out-recruit, out-develop, and win 9/10 big high pressure games necessary to win MULTIPLE BIG-10 Titles AND CFP National Championships PLURAL hows he going to be able to do that better than just Oregon/Oklahoma/Penn State/Ole Miss/USC/Miami/Florida State/A&M/Mizzou/Nebraska let alone the blue bloods where UDUB has been building to belonging with for 35yrs like Ohio St/Bama/UGA/Texas/Michigan?! Meanwhile DeBoer is able to get out to a 28-0 1st half lead on UGA with a defense much better than Rutgers. After the hiring pattern of Sark the hot offensive guy, Pete the responsible pro offensive guy, Jimmy Lake the DBU genius who’s lazy af, DeBoer the offensive guru who won with Jake Haener at Fresno state but can’t staff or recruit, and now Jedd Fisch the failed suitcase of an NFL OC/QB coach who’s trying to be the McVay-Shanahan-LaFleur-McDaniel-O’Connell-Kubiak of college after never being able to keep a job more than 3yrs, it’s time for a HC who’s not about the X’s and O’s but all about instilling an identity of the meanest/nastiest/deepest/most badass fighters along the OL and DL with the highest motor/fastest/most violently seeking out contact playmaker who hate losing more than anything and love winning more than anything that they a) police themselves to be the most discipline highest football IQ team and b) compete to win every rep vs elite talent across from you with the same mentality and passionate urgency as you’d have on a play to win the natty, and instead of him being overly focused on X’s and O’s, surround him with two great OC/DC’s with great position coaches with great GA’s so that the position coaches are OC/DC’s in waiting and the GA’s are position coaches in waiting. Just look at what Dan Campbell’s done in changing the entire identity and culture of the losingest franchise in American sports.
27:20 One thought I had on the flight home from NJ: Teams that have trouble scoring form inside the 10 will take shots at the endzone when they get into opponent territory, usually between the 30-40 yard line. For example, DeBoer and Grubb would have trouble inside the 10, too, and that's why we threw so many TDs from outside the 30. But this season, instead of taking shots once we cross into opponent territory, Fisch is switching in Williams at QB and running read-option, or a PA call that results in a QB scramble. This often gets us into the redzone, but ultimately (and ironically), we get too close to score a TD. I think we need to take more shots from the 30-40 yard range, but maybe we don't because of Will's arm? Or we just can't protect long enough for something like that to develop?
The problem with that is you're correct but the bigger issue is this once we get down to the one or two yard line then coach takes out Demons and puts wheel back in. The coach is putting the mind out there at the 50-yard line and running a few options to get a first down you should be doing that same play at first and goal from the 2 look back on every drive with the goal line it's been Will Rogers at the 2-yard line not demond
In talking about the limited use of Jonah Coleman, my biggest fear with Fisch's program is that he's more about preparing guys for the league than he is about winning games. For example, he treats the non-conference like preseason, limits Jonah Coleman's carries, and makes sure the prized backup QB gets a number of high-stakes reps. Yes, I'm sure Fisch wants to win, but as of right now, I'm not sure it's his top priority. I had better be wrong.
I'm comfortable with limiting carries with 3 capable backs. We want guys to go to the league. The more NFL players we produce, the better recruits we can get. And if we take care of them and they know they're not getting overworked like Ollie Gordon getting 28 carries against an FCS team or Monangai averaging 25 carries per game. RB's are the most expendable in the NFL, take care of them and we'll continue to be a destination not only for QB's and WR's, but also RB's.
Yes, you’re wrong. Jedd is trying to conserve his star back for the whole season. We have 4 really good backs. 12-15 to Jonah, 8-10 to Cam and 5 each to the Adam and Sam.
@@dougrobinson6683 Not if they were all on the same team at the same time. Especially not when one of them were banged up. A good coach knows what he has, and when you have that many great backs, you share the load, especially learning the lesson that when you lean on only one back, and he gets hurt, you’re screwed. Which is exactly what killed us last year. So yup, I’m happy that coach is smarter than most fans.
@@dougrobinson6683 but since we’re on the subject. None of those guys truly had to share the load, though Myles did with Lavon a little. However. Let’s look at some of the best backs. Napoleon Kaufman avgd 16 carries over 4 years. Polk, 19, though some Seasons were lower some higher Gaskin 16,17,18,21 C Dillon, who was a one man wrecking crew and only played one year 24. But again, we have 3-4 backs and Jedd said Jonah is nicked up. So yeah, I’d rather spread the wealth than only use one dude and beat him to death. That’s horrible coaching.
great show. I disagree a bit, welcome comment. I agree with Jedd. You have studs that you promised playing time, but it's not just that. Brand new offense, we don't want to be one-dimensional... every play is designed not just for the game, but film, finally settling in what coach pete calls 'fluid' plays... we don't even know what ours are yet, it takes time, all of it has a purpose. Trying to build a 12 team playoff team in shortest and most intelligent way.... I'm satisfied. IMHO, on schedule
If our offense is going to struggle we need a better kicker. 7 for 11? We might need 4 or 5 field goals per game. With our defense we could still win a lot of these games
Ok, I now have to start jumping on the give Rome and Lars the business. Roman, you’re wearing a Seahawks shirt. It’s time that you two start buying Husky gear. Also, Jedd clearly said that Jonah was a little nicked up, so just continuing to throw him out there non sensibly, is the wrong move. Coach is doing what he thinks is best.
I'm against Jonah getting 20 carries a game. We have 3 good backs, stop getting guys banged up. He's an NFL caliber prospect, we want NFL caliber recruits to see how Fisch takes care of our guys. Jonah not getting more carries didn't lose us the game. 3 FGs, penalties, the blocked FG Celebration cost us the game.
He’s also nicked up, so Jedd isn’t just throwing him out there. He actually cares about the players and wanting them to be healthy and productive the whole year.
This is probably where the UW wins then. What did they see in the last 4 games that would deliver us over to the idea that UW can win. Was it the fact that Will Rogers fumbles the ball at least once a game, and comes close to fumbling at least twice a game or more? Or is it the fact that we will commit at least a number of stupid penalties a game on offense to absolutely slow down our here drives. UW can beat Rutgers in every on-board stat that there is, and still lose. Same with WSU, we beat them almost in every status line, and we lose that game. Why do we have Will Rogers as QB still? Demond obviously could play now it has shown. Michigan has direction in their style of play. They know how to run. They know what they are doing in dealing with an opponent. UW cannot even score on the goal line. UW has to find areas on how they can make themselves better as now. Where we do not have to wait for like Will Rogers to leave. I like Will, but he is not going to be here next year. So why as waste our time on a guy who is only going to be here for a year? We are OK with not getting better with Will Rogers? He is the most obvious reason for us not winning. We should have at least a goal line scoring plan that includes Demond Williams as he gives us options down there that you can run. Will Rogers is a slow white guy who is limited. You can run many ad variances of an offense with Demond in the picture. I am for winning now and on into the future. Will Rogers passes for yards that you do not think that Demond could pass for? Demond has game. I just do not see the reason for struggling with Will Rogers and his limitations. Running Jonah Coleman is not a bad idea, but it still does not get us the score down on the block. I just hope that things get better. Otherwise, I would rather lose and do it and get better this year on into next year going. Rather than give a year over to Will Rogers to find out we can create a losing season with him as Will leaves at the end of the year. I would here rather build with Demond. I am here pro Demond.
using Williams has been terrible for the offense...you bring him in for Rogers and it almost completely the continuity to a halt...Rogers gets frustrated and Williams really can do little effectively but run it or hand off...he is not a Div 1 level qb yet...it seems very clear that promises were made to get Williams to come to UW and trying to keep them is detrimental to this offense right now....leave hm on the bench......
Well, once Michigan sees that line, it's a guaranteed Washington loss. Michigan isn't as good as last year, but good enough to whoop Washington. 💛💙🏆👊 ...by the way: you're favorite by 10. Sounded like you said 1. Apologies if I'm incorrect 👌
Red zone scoring. Again, Jedd already addressed this. The stats are misleading. 19 rz possessions. Two missed 4th downs, two missed fgs, and one at the end of the NW game they chose to go vs go up to 27. Go for that NW FG vs running clock, hit those 2 they missed and boom their 35th. Again, misleading reporting. I’m Starting to think that you’re purposely trying to be misleading to make dawg fans angry at Coach Lars. New team, 21 new starters. Clear growth every game, not making same mistakes twice.
@@baseballdude8491 is it, time will tell, but the very best this team will do is 6-6 at best, with playoff caliber team, that hurts, AND ITS THE GUY AT THE TOP.
It is getting fixed. Same mistakes aren’t happening. Pay attention. Offsides and facemasks and 16 penalties. Now down to 6, none of those are the same, one fluke one.
@@larrymoody9074 yeah I think we all know that penalties hurt. The point is that they are lessening and not being repeated. That’s how you now things are being worked on.
Washington is a very bad team right now with a very bad head coach who should not be calling the plays MICHIGAN IS A LOSS IOWA IS A LOSS PENN STATE IS A LOSS USC IS A LOSS OREGON IS A LOSS INDIANA IS A LOSS UCLA IS A WIN,U ARE WHO YOU ARE UW SHOULD HAVE HIRED RYAN GRUBB WASHINGTON ISN'T GOING TO A BOWL GAME THIS YEAR.💯
I listen to Jedd in his pressers, i do not hear him putting ANYTHING on his shoulders like maybe, i should have called something different, never. Narrow shoulders?
It's not coaching when a kid jumps in the field before the play is over C'mon The two late hit calls and many of the other penalties are in the players Relax folks
@@baseballdude8491 Those things are 100% coaching. There's a reason Don James and Chris Petersen teams didn't kill themselves with penalties. It's an ethos from the top down.
Washington’s offense and defense is actually really good but the penalties are killing us. Especially the size of the penalties and the timing of them.
So frustrating that Udub could easily be undefeated right now.
True, I 💯 agree with you.
I think it's more about all of the change & transition. 40+ new players. New coaches, staff, strength coach, AD, starters & depth. I wish we had Rogers another season. Penix k ew the previous coaching staff and it took him until year 2 to set it off. We're going to be good.
Yeah NOT what i expected.....
@@sontewong9935 Penix only knew DeBoer and Sheridan I believe. Other than that it was a completely new environment with completely new players. I don't believe Rodgers would have had the same success under the same circumstances.
I agree Jedds play calling needs to be more aggressive
@@sontewong9935 plus after Deboer's win over Georgia this weekend one can make the argument that at the very least he's a way better coach than Jedd Fisch.
Remember when you asked if the WSU performance was a fluke or a sign of more bad things to come and I was “negative” for saying a sign of bad things?
If your coach looks completely overwhelmed by the moment and in over his head @ Rutgers who was allowing us to gain 9yards per play and literally couldn’t win if UDUB just got an early 2-score lead and vs WSU who gave up 52pts to SJSU after we only scored 19pts and Ashton Jeanty himself scored 9 more points on WSU than we scored them as an entire team, then as someone who gets paid $7.5M a year to beat out-recruit, out-develop, and win 9/10 big high pressure games necessary to win MULTIPLE BIG-10 Titles AND CFP National Championships PLURAL hows he going to be able to do that better than just Oregon/Oklahoma/Penn State/Ole Miss/USC/Miami/Florida State/A&M/Mizzou/Nebraska let alone the blue bloods where UDUB has been building to belonging with for 35yrs like Ohio St/Bama/UGA/Texas/Michigan?! Meanwhile DeBoer is able to get out to a 28-0 1st half lead on UGA with a defense much better than Rutgers.
After the hiring pattern of Sark the hot offensive guy, Pete the responsible pro offensive guy, Jimmy Lake the DBU genius who’s lazy af, DeBoer the offensive guru who won with Jake Haener at Fresno state but can’t staff or recruit, and now Jedd Fisch the failed suitcase of an NFL OC/QB coach who’s trying to be the McVay-Shanahan-LaFleur-McDaniel-O’Connell-Kubiak of college after never being able to keep a job more than 3yrs, it’s time for a HC who’s not about the X’s and O’s but all about instilling an identity of the meanest/nastiest/deepest/most badass fighters along the OL and DL with the highest motor/fastest/most violently seeking out contact playmaker who hate losing more than anything and love winning more than anything that they a) police themselves to be the most discipline highest football IQ team and b) compete to win every rep vs elite talent across from you with the same mentality and passionate urgency as you’d have on a play to win the natty, and instead of him being overly focused on X’s and O’s, surround him with two great OC/DC’s with great position coaches with great GA’s so that the position coaches are OC/DC’s in waiting and the GA’s are position coaches in waiting. Just look at what Dan Campbell’s done in changing the entire identity and culture of the losingest franchise in American sports.
27:20 One thought I had on the flight home from NJ: Teams that have trouble scoring form inside the 10 will take shots at the endzone when they get into opponent territory, usually between the 30-40 yard line. For example, DeBoer and Grubb would have trouble inside the 10, too, and that's why we threw so many TDs from outside the 30. But this season, instead of taking shots once we cross into opponent territory, Fisch is switching in Williams at QB and running read-option, or a PA call that results in a QB scramble. This often gets us into the redzone, but ultimately (and ironically), we get too close to score a TD. I think we need to take more shots from the 30-40 yard range, but maybe we don't because of Will's arm? Or we just can't protect long enough for something like that to develop?
The problem with that is you're correct but the bigger issue is this once we get down to the one or two yard line then coach takes out Demons and puts wheel back in. The coach is putting the mind out there at the 50-yard line and running a few options to get a first down you should be doing that same play at first and goal from the 2 look back on every drive with the goal line it's been Will Rogers at the 2-yard line not demond
The way a lot of UW fans talk about Jedd's play calling always makes me remember a quote from Nick Saban, "Think players, not plays".
In talking about the limited use of Jonah Coleman, my biggest fear with Fisch's program is that he's more about preparing guys for the league than he is about winning games. For example, he treats the non-conference like preseason, limits Jonah Coleman's carries, and makes sure the prized backup QB gets a number of high-stakes reps. Yes, I'm sure Fisch wants to win, but as of right now, I'm not sure it's his top priority.
I had better be wrong.
I'm comfortable with limiting carries with 3 capable backs. We want guys to go to the league. The more NFL players we produce, the better recruits we can get. And if we take care of them and they know they're not getting overworked like Ollie Gordon getting 28 carries against an FCS team or Monangai averaging 25 carries per game. RB's are the most expendable in the NFL, take care of them and we'll continue to be a destination not only for QB's and WR's, but also RB's.
Yes, you’re wrong. Jedd is trying to conserve his star back for the whole season. We have 4 really good backs. 12-15 to Jonah, 8-10 to Cam and 5 each to the Adam and Sam.
Could you imagine if Corey Dillon, Chris Polk, or Myles Gaskin only got 12-15 carries per game.
@@dougrobinson6683 Not if they were all on the same team at the same time. Especially not when one of them were banged up. A good coach knows what he has, and when you have that many great backs, you share the load, especially learning the lesson that when you lean on only one back, and he gets hurt, you’re screwed. Which is exactly what killed us last year. So yup, I’m happy that coach is smarter than most fans.
@@dougrobinson6683 but since we’re on the subject. None of those guys truly had to share the load, though Myles did with Lavon a little.
However. Let’s look at some of the best backs. Napoleon Kaufman avgd 16 carries over 4 years. Polk, 19, though some
Seasons were lower some higher
Gaskin 16,17,18,21
C Dillon, who was a one man wrecking crew and only played one year 24.
But again, we have 3-4 backs and Jedd said Jonah is nicked up. So yeah, I’d rather spread the wealth than only use one dude and beat him to death. That’s horrible coaching.
I’m hopeful that the Huskies rebound vs the Wolverines that aren’t as great as they were last season.
great show. I disagree a bit, welcome comment. I agree with Jedd. You have studs that you promised playing time, but it's not just that. Brand new offense, we don't want to be one-dimensional... every play is designed not just for the game, but film, finally settling in what coach pete calls 'fluid' plays... we don't even know what ours are yet, it takes time, all of it has a purpose. Trying to build a 12 team playoff team in shortest and most intelligent way.... I'm satisfied. IMHO, on schedule
If Michigan's QB was just an average passer I would pick them but god dang they cannot pass to save their lives!
If our offense is going to struggle we need a better kicker. 7 for 11? We might need 4 or 5 field goals per game. With our defense we could still win a lot of these games
I haven't completely given up on Grady, something is OFF, he just needs to figure it out and fix it!
I agree, we DO need a great kicker this year!
Ok, I now have to start jumping on the give Rome and Lars the business. Roman, you’re wearing a Seahawks shirt. It’s time that you two start buying Husky gear. Also, Jedd clearly said that Jonah was a little nicked up, so just continuing to throw him out there non sensibly, is the wrong move. Coach is doing what he thinks is best.
I see you are a Seahawks fan which doesn’t surprise me because the Washington Huskies are located in Seattle.
Apparently Vegas is disregarding fan's bellyaching & proposed 'we need to's'; and sees the Big Picture.
I'm against Jonah getting 20 carries a game. We have 3 good backs, stop getting guys banged up. He's an NFL caliber prospect, we want NFL caliber recruits to see how Fisch takes care of our guys.
Jonah not getting more carries didn't lose us the game. 3 FGs, penalties, the blocked FG Celebration cost us the game.
He’s also nicked up, so Jedd isn’t just throwing him out there. He actually cares about the players and wanting them to be healthy and productive the whole year.
It’s really humorous that you two think you know better. Good thing non football guys don’t get to make the decisions.
This is probably where the UW wins then. What did they see in the last 4 games that would deliver us over to the idea that UW can win. Was it the fact that Will Rogers fumbles the ball at least once a game, and comes close to fumbling at least twice a game or more? Or is it the fact that we will commit at least a number of stupid penalties a game on offense to absolutely slow down our here drives. UW can beat Rutgers in every on-board stat that there is, and still lose. Same with WSU, we beat them almost in every status line, and we lose that game. Why do we have Will Rogers as QB still? Demond obviously could play now it has shown. Michigan has direction in their style of play. They know how to run. They know what they are doing in dealing with an opponent. UW cannot even score on the goal line. UW has to find areas on how they can make themselves better as now. Where we do not have to wait for like Will Rogers to leave. I like Will, but he is not going to be here next year. So why as waste our time on a guy who is only going to be here for a year? We are OK with not getting better with Will Rogers? He is the most obvious reason for us not winning. We should have at least a goal line scoring plan that includes Demond Williams as he gives us options down there that you can run. Will Rogers is a slow white guy who is limited. You can run many ad variances of an offense with Demond in the picture. I am for winning now and on into the future. Will Rogers passes for yards that you do not think that Demond could pass for? Demond has game. I just do not see the reason for struggling with Will Rogers and his limitations. Running Jonah Coleman is not a bad idea, but it still does not get us the score down on the block. I just hope that things get better. Otherwise, I would rather lose and do it and get better this year on into next year going. Rather than give a year over to Will Rogers to find out we can create a losing season with him as Will leaves at the end of the year. I would here rather build with Demond. I am here pro Demond.
using Williams has been terrible for the offense...you bring him in for Rogers and it almost completely the continuity to a halt...Rogers gets frustrated and Williams really can do little effectively but run it or hand off...he is not a Div 1 level qb yet...it seems very clear that promises were made to get Williams to come to UW and trying to keep them is detrimental to this offense right now....leave hm on the bench......
Get hunter more involved
You're an offensive lineman! What does an offensive lineman do when he finishes a pancake? He looks elsewhere for another pancake!
Michigan QB play isn't good! Very good defensive front and running game. Michigan isn't a #10 in my opinion.
Well, once Michigan sees that line, it's a guaranteed Washington loss. Michigan isn't as good as last year, but good enough to whoop Washington.
💛💙🏆👊
...by the way: you're favorite by 10. Sounded like you said 1. Apologies if I'm incorrect 👌
I can give you both money for a Husky shirt.
I'll pitch in too! I thought about LENDING my HUSKY sweatshirt, but I don't think it will fit!
Why is that Jackson kid still playing corner he was getting cooked last year
I remember Elijah won the game against Texas for us!
Red zone scoring. Again, Jedd already addressed this. The stats are misleading. 19 rz possessions. Two missed 4th downs, two missed fgs, and one at the end of the NW game they chose to go vs go up to 27. Go for that NW FG vs running clock, hit those 2 they missed and boom their 35th. Again, misleading reporting. I’m Starting to think that you’re purposely trying to be misleading to make dawg fans angry at Coach Lars. New team, 21 new starters. Clear growth every game, not making same mistakes twice.
Until he takes blaim, IT WILL NEVER GET FIXED, like an addict, you have to admit you have an issue first, you dont admit, it doesnt get fixed.
Your hyperbole is ridiculous
@@baseballdude8491 is it, time will tell, but the very best this team will do is 6-6 at best, with playoff caliber team, that hurts, AND ITS THE GUY AT THE TOP.
It is getting fixed. Same mistakes aren’t happening. Pay attention. Offsides and facemasks and 16 penalties. Now down to 6, none of those are the same, one fluke one.
@@daddio159 its the severity of the penalties that ethier keep their drive alive or kill huskies drive. Just sayin, look at the loses.
@@larrymoody9074 yeah I think we all know that penalties hurt. The point is that they are lessening and not being repeated. That’s how you now things are being worked on.
Somebody has to have the, call it power to call him out, hes not god, if you cant be called, again wont get fixed..... sad very sad.
There you go Lars, he wont admit....
Somebody needs to Lars
Washington is a very bad team right now with a very bad head coach who should not be calling the plays MICHIGAN IS A LOSS IOWA IS A LOSS PENN STATE IS A LOSS USC IS A LOSS OREGON IS A LOSS INDIANA IS A LOSS UCLA IS A WIN,U ARE WHO YOU ARE UW SHOULD HAVE HIRED RYAN GRUBB WASHINGTON ISN'T GOING TO A BOWL GAME THIS YEAR.💯
I listen to Jedd in his pressers, i do not hear him putting ANYTHING on his shoulders like maybe, i should have called something different, never. Narrow shoulders?
It's not coaching when a kid jumps in the field before the play is over
C'mon
The two late hit calls and many of the other penalties are in the players
Relax folks
@@baseballdude8491 Those things are 100% coaching. There's a reason Don James and Chris Petersen teams didn't kill themselves with penalties. It's an ethos from the top down.
Dawn James also lost a couple of games his first year in Washington on the sidelines
@@dougrobinson6683 go see how many penalties #1 Alabama had the other day.
U havn't raised teenagers😂😂@@dougrobinson6683
UDUB is going to get killed smh right LARS THE TOOTH HANSON
I heaved a sigh of relief TOO SOON! It looked like we were FINALLY going to have a full thread WITHOUT you harassing Lars!
@@GARose-kt4jc oh I'm sorry lmao
@@TheGac1978 It ALMOST looked like you were "slipping"!
Yup! Go ahead and plan a nice outing on a Saturday, it’ll be nice weather, do waste a nice Saturday watching a bad team loose
@@hawklord25 They are NOT a "bad team" and it will be a Dawgfight! Go BACK to your cougar cave!
(BTW, since you're a WSU grad, it's "lose".)