For Projectors The Panasonic UB820k is pretty much mandatory. Especially because it's the only player that allows for gamma and luminance adjustments using HDR optimizer. But I do love ❤️ the build quality and look of the Magnetar!
I consider myself very lucky to have gotten an Oppo UDP-203 for about $550 when it was released. It is still sad they no longer produce disc players anymore. They were the reference gold standard for years.
The Oppo is fantastic but at this point I would go for one of the Panasonic models. They aren’t nearly as premium feeling but Panasonic has better image quality. Their HDR optimization features are so invaluable that unless you’re running one of those $20,000 reference Dolby Vision displays (usually around 30” diagonal btw) you’ll get some use out of the various optimization features the Panasonic offer. all displays have strengths and weaknesses and the Panasonic can play to them all. This is a feature that Oppo pioneered but ultimately fell behind in .
I have a 203 and I'm wondering... If I'm using it with the HDMI input being used and selected (being fed from an external source or disc drive) does this mean the 203's reader lens will be turned off during such periods since it's not being used? I'm hoping this is the case because that would help preserve the life hours of the laser lens. If so then I would use the 203's drive/lens primarily just for UHD disc playback and use an external drive for other disc type playback.
Part of the reason why I chose to go with a Panasonic 9000 was due to its HDR optimizer. I can turn off dynamic tone mapping on my LG GX OLED TV and enable the optimizer on my Panasonic 9000, which then gives one a better noticeable visual result! Plus, in my particular case knowing the Panasonic is going into the arcam AVR, which also happens to have a similar sabre DAC as the magnetar I've never felt the need to ever have to go into the Panasonic network settings. After spending a shitload on shielded cables so I have an exceptionally quiet room, I wasn't prepared to take the risk of being slightly distracted by the 820s, apparently slightly noisier disc player.
I have the Oppo 203, and the Panasonic UBD9000 and the Magnetar 800. I love physical media and I like having backup players. The Panasonic is very glitchy sometimes but has the superior image quality. The Oppo is the gold standard from an engineering perspective, so well designed and a joy to use. I really haven't used the Magnetar much but I am glad it's there!
I upgraded form my Sony X800 to an X800M2 in anticipation of my new 65" LG G4, which I got a couple weeks ago. Sure beats my 50" side-lit QNED!!! Although having to move my dad into assisted living yesterday and now having to take over all the house bills, it may not have been the smartest financial decision.
What almost everybody overlooks with the Magnetar players is they can be bought in a region free version and the amount of players you can get region free is very limited less than a dozen so if you have a mix of regions you either have to have a player for each region or find a region free player and the Magnetar UDP-800 and 900 is the best option when it comes to that
@@ealanosborne I bought a UDP800 to replace an Oppo BDP103D from 2014 and the region code change is so much better on the Magnetar, on the Oppo you had to press dimmer 3 times and then mute or pure audio and then the number you wanted to change to within 10 seconds of the player starting up and it never worked the first time vs the UDP800 where you press 8520 in the setup an overlay pops up where you change the region code and it works every time without having to turn the player off like the Oppo
Had to return my Panasonic UB9000. It wouldn’t play any Criterion Collection 4Ks for some reason unless I unplugged everything and restarted the player. Even then it would STILL give me problems with certain titles. My Magnetar should be coming in the mail soon!
To me, not worth it. Hard pass for the law of diminishing returns. My Sony 800m2 gives me everything i need, and keeps a LOT of money in my pocket. 98% of people are running an AVR which has its own DAC. With that amount of money saved, one could easily buy a new tv, or speaker upgrade, separate amp, etc...
I said the same thing for the past couple of years with mine (region-free 800m2), but I am starting to have more and more 4K disc read errors/freeze-up (the “layer switch” issue is what internet sluthing has discovered, so, grain of salt). Not sure what format your collection mostly consists of, but as my 4K BD start to catch up to my HD BD numbers, it will be a problem that needs to be addressed with a better player.
@@TidbitkidNot necessarily looking at just Magnetar, the higher end Panasonics are also an option, but I was a “the Sony players are fine” guy for the years that I had no issues… until I did start having the issues.
@@Mikes_Vices you can buy a used OPPO 203 or 205 at these prices for each of the equivalent models and still get them serviced. The OPPO have shown to hold relevant collectors pricing and still are among the best players to have been out for the Ultra-HD format with build quality OPPO has been known for along with fanless designs. They also play BD folders and BDXL folders which you have to pay on the magnetar as well as region free kits are available for them at a reasonable price for BD playback.
So the Magnetar is Not the problem with the remaster of Twister. It's the encoding in the disc. A couple of Panasonics, the Magnetar UDP 800 and 900 and there's another brand in forgetting, all won't play this disc. I've reached out to Magnetar, spoken with them, yes, by using my voice, love this company, and they are actively working on figuring out what's going on. They ordered a copy of Twister to test this themselves. And yes, I have the latest firmware. Again, if it was firmware the issue wouldn't be across several brands and players
@@jollama only about 10% of the 150 4k Blu ray discs I own even contain Dolby Vision. HDR 10 and HDR 10+ look amazing, and they all have either. The Apple TV 4k gives me all the Dolby Vision I need, and I spent less than half the price of the UB820 on the UB420. Nice zinger though bud.
I got the Magnetar UDP 900 because in addition to my Toshiba XA2 HD DVD player, I can now play all 4.7 inch disc media. Not that it is necessary but the nerd in me enjoys that kind of thing lol. However, I can't say that I noticed a difference in picture quality over my Panasonic UB 9000.
I've been rocking a UB820k in my system flawlessly for several years now, its a great player and does everything I could need including 3D bluray feeding a projector. Though I can appreciate the build quality of these high end machines.
Believe me, for Bluray players and Turntable vinyl record players, there's a moot point beyond which you can't squeeze or get linear uphill progression in price to performance. If you're investing more than $300 on either of these tools/ instruments, your investment is going to fall into law of diminishing return.
This review comes just as I'm thinking about a new 4k player however you never mentioned if you would would be willing to part with your hard earned. As I'm not related to the Royal family I might have to give these a miss or wait until an entry level Magnetar is revealed.
I still have my Pioneer Elite 88FD Blu Ray player from 11 years ago that still run like a champ Paid close to $1800 for that thing and play it regularly too and it has not given me any issues. These premium players are expensive, but the build quality on them are amazing.
In my country the Magnetars are available, but very expensive. The only other new option is a locally branded 4k player, specs are complete with Dolby Vision and Atmos, and seperate audio/video HDMI ports. It's reasonably priced at around $850, a bit less if you deduct import duties etc. My friend who's an AV distributor tells me it's developed by Magnetar. That I don't know, but seems a very decent player. So only these 3 are available in my country!
I've got the 800 almost a year old Glad to hear I'm not the only one with twister 4k issue I've got 2 copies bought the standard one when steelbook got delayed from Amazon but they played on my ps5 and my sons sony player so i gave him a copy couldn't get a answer from WB either about this issue
Great video. Thank you for sharing this. It is nice to see a DVD player that is well built and had some weight to it. Reminds me of the days when I had. Denon 5000 or Pioneer Elite DV-09. Those had some weight and were very well built. That aside, I would have a tough time buying a disc player of any kind, at any price given this format has likely run its course.
I have the Sony 800m2 and Panasonic DP-UB450. Many TVs and A/V systems having video and sound processors are more advanced than premium physical media players, even the Magnetar 800 & 900 with a US release date in 2022. The majority of media players in the US market are from 2017-2019. However, those A/V systems can cost over $10,000. There are many cinephiles that would love for a premium disc player that cannot afford the Magnetar 800/900 or Panasonic 9000. A product built from premium parts matching the ports and media readability as the Sony 800m2, and a power cord set. Don't need the rest of the ports. I'd buy that product.
@@kman9387 yeah I may pick it up. I just don't like paying $500 for a plastic player. If it had the build quality of the Sony, I would have been bought it.
I purchased the Sony UBP-X800 back when it was first released in 2017. It has worked well for me ever since and I have a sizable physical library. I still think it performs well but maybe I am wrong. I have to be honest with all my tech research Blu-ray players are something I don't actively research. Is there anything in the same price range that is better? If so what am I missing out on as far as features. Anyone feel free to enlighten me.
I guess the only thing currently that could one-up a premium 4K player is the new Kaleidescape Stratos V, since you’re basically getting the uncompressed master file, not a disc. But even that is $4,000. 😳 Once it comes down to $2,000, Kaleidescape will be a true contender, IMO.
@@ealanosborne Panasonic and a used OPPO have at least been on the market for more then a year and are high-end players with the OPPO able to do everything this player can do with legendary status and build.
Magnetar looks nice, but pricey for what I accomplish and need. I bought my Reavon X200 at launch with the expectations of what the Magentar offers and was before Magnetar existed. Since then I ended up with over 200TB connected to a Zidoo. I still use the Reavon for first watches and special features of my discs along with my Cd and SACD library. Re-watches and TV Disc rips are strictly Zidoo anymore for me.
I have had the Magnetar UDP800 for about 8 months now and am quite happy with it. I did however not think the UDP900 was worth it for me, I do not really listen to audio cd's. The issue with Twister movie also happened for me with the UDP800. It went to the movie menu and when I wanted to start the movie, the player stopped and returned to the main Magnatar home screen. It took a firmware update, which came out two days ago to fix it. I updated the player this morning and the issue with the Twister 4k movie was gone, I could finally watch the movie I bought a couple weeks ago. In the span of the 8 months I have had the player, I think there has been about 5 firmware updates. It is very sturdy build, is very quiet and I like the OSD menu's, I am glad I bought it.
@@Music.Movies.67also have emptier pockets and movies on a hard drive that are encrypted and on a closed network system vs a physical disc that can be played on any compatible player. Also no Dolby Vision support on a Kaleidoscape
I haven’t had the privilege of owning or reviewing either of those classic players, but I’ve been told by my Magnetar rep that they purposely built their players with similar topology as the Oppo, since they knew they were no longer being built. 🤷♂️
Magnetar remind me of Oppo And those of us that bought their expensive players are now stuck with no more firmware updates or backup if they develop a fault. Think before you pay this sort of money for a Blu-Ray player. Once bitten twice shy comes to mind.
OPPO still has a service centre for fixing issues on the player and no firmware is required beyond the last one that is still available. Still plays everything including the latest disc I spin on it asides from HD-DVDs lol.
@@Tidbitkid The service centres in the EU / UK closed shortly after they pulled out of selling them. There was a website directing you to the firmware but that has now gone. My players are still working, i have some laser assemblies on hand for when the originals fail but if other OEM parts fail i will be stuck with an expensive door stop.
@@Barbarapape and If you went with a Magnetar product where would that be located? The point is in comparison and known dedication even after leaving the market to still have a service centre afterall it was a made in China designed in California brand of OPPO. I'm in Canada and they still have it in United States still requires shipping to another country expensive but good to know they still have a service center. The only thing we had in Canada was an authorized dealer which never fixed the players only sold them. By the 20x series they were from one dealer in the US from an authorized dealer who had both US and Canada authorized to sell to. This product also looks like many products like Reavon players setup shop pay/give influencers the product sell out and close up shop after last warranty. There have been many OPPO clones since they departed from the market with every single one of them closing up shop after selling out or discounting 4K players from the lineup. All while you can still contact the service centre at OPPO and find some one who will pickup and reply. Thus buy a used OPPO service it and still come out top of these prices or go with Panasonic who never left the market and is still widely available.
I use my XBOX Series X for 4K BluRay playback. I’m happy with it but am curious what someone who has both the XBOX and a dedicated 4K BR player thinks.
Having an Xbox series X and a Sony x800m2. Xbox supports Dolby vision on games and apps but not on blu ray 4k ! 😮 Also Xbox makes quite a lot of noise when reading a 4k blu ray
I ordered the Magnetar 800 and the first day I had audio issues. Called customer service and doing a few things to see what the problem was they finally deemed it defective. So I shipped it back and asked for a refund and got it. So I can't trust this company again. I have the Reaven x100 and Oppo 203 which in my opinion is the best 4K UHD player ever made.
This Player, using Transformer as Power Supply (Said Caleb Dennison from "digital trends"). Perhaps this guy have better reliability, just like my Basic Active Speaker which using Transformer and still going strong until today 😅
You could have equally made this video in favour of low cost Bluray players bringing more value for money. 1. Is the picture from UDP900 900 times better than LG or Panasonic or Sony Bluray players priced below $500, even $200? 2. If I have a large collection of physical Bluray media, a mix of A, B and C grade movies and 70%-30% ratio of Bluray- 4K UHD media, It'd make more sense to future proof myself by buying 6-7 units of 200$ multi region Bluray players and 2-3 4K Bluray players than just 1 unit of versatile high build quality 4K Bluray player worth $2K or $3K if failed due to any technical reason, I have lot of dependency there it being' single point of failure'. Low cost Bluray players are perishing fast from the market and soon they will become antique, rarely available and thus exorbitantly priced (allready happening that trend). If someone is investing on thousands of physical disc media, they better also insure their Bluray players to serve them for next 40-50 years 😉
¿Cuál es la capacidad máxima de disco duro externo (conectado por el puerto USB 3.0) que admite este reproducctor Magnetar UDP800? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - What is the maximum external hard disk drive capacity (connected via USB 3.0 port) that this Magnetar UDP800 player supports?
Guess what? My 20 yr old $30 DVD player plays burned discs , cd's, bootlegs, you name it. I am upgrading to 4K but will use both, I can get the 3d feature in a new player for $200. Absolute nonsense to pay $1500.
JVB oppostore in holland can not get them not for you at the moment. They told me magnetar and reavon ar do not talk togethere. Chinese an france. I gave my oppo 203 he is good and i use him he is top for me. 7 years now
I remember when lexicon took an Oppo bdp 83 Blu-ray player put their face plate on it and charged $3,000! People purchased it and raved about it and then the truth came out!
The Oppo, Oops! I mean, Magnetar will suffer the same fate as its predecessor. Lack of market interest. Those who can afford $3k video players will choose Kaleidescape. The hardcore audiophiles who are into digital will buy a midfi streamer to feed a high-end dac. As usual, most HT enthusiasts will choose an inexpensive 4k player, a good to very good receiver and cheap out on speakers. Those of us who are into true two channel hifi, but also enjoy a HT movie/multichannel concert experience will have two rigs. And believe me our two channel rig will usually cost us two to three times the HT rig.
Used Oppo cheaper than Magnetar, so that's the way I went. Got tired of waiting for a sale on the Magnetar. I wouldn't choose a Kaleidescape for $3k unless it could store on my NAS.
Anyone know the history of this company with them fixing the units if they break after a few years? It'd be a solid investment if they did. So many electronics are to be thrown away once they die, and since they don't support them anymore, they don't repair them typically. The repair cost is not worth it if your $200 LG player dies. If I spend that much $2k on a player, I would expect there to be support. Motors will eventually die, lasers will stop working, capacitors go bad, etc.
I’ve accepted the fact that all companies - even if they claim “made in America” - have at least some percentage of internal components made in China. It’s just how it goes. But regardless, I still don’t like ultra cheap products, no matter where they’re being manufactured. 🤷♂️
Thanks Ealan for another equipment review, sorry I haven't kept up on your(eyes & ears) videos, I try to watch them in segments, by the time I get through part of one you have another one available... hard to find spare time😞....(edited) I just checked Patreon and I see my card was expired, Oops...your payment is up and running again "woo hoo"...lol Also: I noticed my state (Washington state) is charging me taxes to give you money..(what a bunch of rats) Does Patreon give you the full amount I give you or do they take out fees?
I saw that! Thank you very much! :) And as far as I know, Patreon takes a small cut, I think, since that's how they make their money. 😄 Also, with the Eyes & Ears episodes, if it's any easier, you can subscribe to "The Eyes & Ears Podcast" on your favorite podcast platform and just listen to it at work or wherever. It goes live the following day in audio form. Hooray!
Originally I had an OPPO Blu-ray Player , but it was stolen !.. so I have no way to play my Multi-Channel Sacd's , DVD-Audio,Disc's , & Blu-ray Audio Disc's , inside my home ... My car will play DVD-Audio Disc's, DTS CD's or DVDs ...of Course I would want a "UNIVERSAL DISC PLAYER" Such as the Magnetar or if another UNIVERSAL DISC PLAYER is for sale from other Companies I would consider one of those depending upon quality etc... it's not JUST the 4K Blu-ray Video Disc's which are Important.... Many Dolby Atmos Blu-ray Audio Disc's are Available from Music Artists & they must be playable....
I tried the upd800. Not worth the money. 15% of my uhd disks made the unit hum like crazy. I was told this is normal for this model. Such bs! I got the ub9000 now and all my disks are almost silent. The 800 uses the same kind of cheap drive the other oppo 203 clones use. I now have a cheaper oppo 203 clone for my ripped disks and the Panasonic.
Funny, how players that cost much can't even play a simply 4k movie.. I can't imagine getting my snacks ready to watch a movie with some friends and the movie won't start. 🙄😬Why can't they just make a player that output the Best Quality for picture & sound and still be built like a tank.. Like both of my Oppo's(cough)(cough)!! The mass market are Ppl like me on a simple budget. That can't and won't spend crazy money on a Highend play that can't play certain movies...Smh... But they are Nice...
The SONY 700 or 800 make great players for a second system, but if you can afford it the Magnetar is the Rolex of 4K players and when compared to DENON SACD Players ( for audio lovers ) they are actually good value. I live in England and had to import the Magnetar from France and pat another 100 Euros for multi-region capability. Well balanced review by the way!
The Magnetar is a huge rip off, don’t fall into the hype about it. I purchased one and returned it when I realized my Sony 4K Blu-ray player did almost everythings better for a fraction of the price. The only thing Magnetar did better was sound and it’s sooooo minuscule that 99% of people aren’t gonna know. The Magnetar is a mid range movie player at best.
Meh, perfectly happy with my Panny UB420 (Samsung tv, don't need DV). And I can spend my money on discs instead of paying off the debt for these overpriced players. With $1600 players, no wonder 4K disc sales seem to be struggling.
I have a Panasonic UB9000: "Why Panasonic UB9000's HDR Optimiser is Such A Killer Feature" ruclips.net/video/oTw_Toh0PzA/видео.htmlsi=vHJ2aDvFPu21pHpx It doesn't do SACD and perhaps some other edge case disc formats but I've never owned an SACD disc so, not relevant for me. I wanted the best of the best video playback. The Magnetar it also has XLR outputs.
For Projectors The Panasonic UB820k is pretty much mandatory. Especially because it's the only player that allows for gamma and luminance adjustments using HDR optimizer.
But I do love ❤️ the build quality and look of the Magnetar!
Most mid range, TVs and above can adjust that in the settings. Now, granted, if you have a low TV, this is a great feature.
I consider myself very lucky to have gotten an Oppo UDP-203 for about $550 when it was released. It is still sad they no longer produce disc players anymore. They were the reference gold standard for years.
The Oppo is fantastic but at this point I would go for one of the Panasonic models. They aren’t nearly as premium feeling but Panasonic has better image quality. Their HDR optimization features are so invaluable that unless you’re running one of those $20,000 reference Dolby Vision displays (usually around 30” diagonal btw) you’ll get some use out of the various optimization features the Panasonic offer. all displays have strengths and weaknesses and the Panasonic can play to them all. This is a feature that Oppo pioneered but ultimately fell behind in .
I have a 203 and I'm wondering...
If I'm using it with the HDMI input being used and selected (being fed from an external source or disc drive) does this mean the 203's reader lens will be turned off during such periods since it's not being used? I'm hoping this is the case because that would help preserve the life hours of the laser lens. If so then I would use the 203's drive/lens primarily just for UHD disc playback and use an external drive for other disc type playback.
Part of the reason why I chose to go with a Panasonic 9000 was due to its HDR optimizer. I can turn off dynamic tone mapping on my LG GX OLED TV and enable the optimizer on my Panasonic 9000, which then gives one a better noticeable visual result! Plus, in my particular case knowing the Panasonic is going into the arcam AVR, which also happens to have a similar sabre DAC as the magnetar I've never felt the need to ever have to go into the Panasonic network settings.
After spending a shitload on shielded cables so I have an exceptionally quiet room, I wasn't prepared to take the risk of being slightly distracted by the 820s, apparently slightly noisier disc player.
That makes a lot of sense! 🤘🎉
I have the Oppo 203, and the Panasonic UBD9000 and the Magnetar 800. I love physical media and I like having backup players. The Panasonic is very glitchy sometimes but has the superior image quality. The Oppo is the gold standard from an engineering perspective, so well designed and a joy to use. I really haven't used the Magnetar much but I am glad it's there!
I upgraded form my Sony X800 to an X800M2 in anticipation of my new 65" LG G4, which I got a couple weeks ago. Sure beats my 50" side-lit QNED!!! Although having to move my dad into assisted living yesterday and now having to take over all the house bills, it may not have been the smartest financial decision.
Hang in there! You’ll figure it out! Everyone’s more resilient than they think in times like this. 👍🎉
What almost everybody overlooks with the Magnetar players is they can be bought in a region free version and the amount of players you can get region free is very limited less than a dozen so if you have a mix of regions you either have to have a player for each region or find a region free player and the Magnetar UDP-800 and 900 is the best option when it comes to that
So true! Thanks!
@@ealanosborne I bought a UDP800 to replace an Oppo BDP103D from 2014 and the region code change is so much better on the Magnetar, on the Oppo you had to press dimmer 3 times and then mute or pure audio and then the number you wanted to change to within 10 seconds of the player starting up and it never worked the first time vs the UDP800 where you press 8520 in the setup an overlay pops up where you change the region code and it works every time without having to turn the player off like the Oppo
Just bought a UDP900.....it's insanely good!
For real! 🎉
The Panasonic 820 is amazing. I especially love the 4k upscaling for standard DVDs.
Had to return my Panasonic UB9000. It wouldn’t play any Criterion Collection 4Ks for some reason unless I unplugged everything and restarted the player. Even then it would STILL give me problems with certain titles. My Magnetar should be coming in the mail soon!
Interesting! Haven’t heard about that issue yet, so thanks for the heads up!
@ Got it from Amazon. Do you think someone could have swapped out internals from a lesser model and resell?
To me, not worth it. Hard pass for the law of diminishing returns. My Sony 800m2 gives me everything i need, and keeps a LOT of money in my pocket. 98% of people are running an AVR which has its own DAC. With that amount of money saved, one could easily buy a new tv, or speaker upgrade, separate amp, etc...
I said the same thing for the past couple of years with mine (region-free 800m2), but I am starting to have more and more 4K disc read errors/freeze-up (the “layer switch” issue is what internet sluthing has discovered, so, grain of salt).
Not sure what format your collection mostly consists of, but as my 4K BD start to catch up to my HD BD numbers, it will be a problem that needs to be addressed with a better player.
@Mikes_Vices I have a mix of both like you. I only have an occasional freeze up. Maybe 3 to 4 in the past 2 years. Not killing me yet 😁
At these prices you can literally buy on the secondary market the legendary OPPO UDP-20x series which still can be serviced.
@@TidbitkidNot necessarily looking at just Magnetar, the higher end Panasonics are also an option, but I was a “the Sony players are fine” guy for the years that I had no issues… until I did start having the issues.
@@Mikes_Vices you can buy a used OPPO 203 or 205 at these prices for each of the equivalent models and still get them serviced. The OPPO have shown to hold relevant collectors pricing and still are among the best players to have been out for the Ultra-HD format with build quality OPPO has been known for along with fanless designs. They also play BD folders and BDXL folders which you have to pay on the magnetar as well as region free kits are available for them at a reasonable price for BD playback.
So the Magnetar is Not the problem with the remaster of Twister. It's the encoding in the disc. A couple of Panasonics, the Magnetar UDP 800 and 900 and there's another brand in forgetting, all won't play this disc. I've reached out to Magnetar, spoken with them, yes, by using my voice, love this company, and they are actively working on figuring out what's going on. They ordered a copy of Twister to test this themselves.
And yes, I have the latest firmware. Again, if it was firmware the issue wouldn't be across several brands and players
Nice! Thanks for the heads up!! 🤘
I wish I was in the Magnetar tax bracket 😂. Happy with my Panasonic DP-UB420 for now. Gets the job done, looks gorgeous on my Sony OLED.
Enjoy having no Dolby Vision
@@jollama only about 10% of the 150 4k Blu ray discs I own even contain Dolby Vision. HDR 10 and HDR 10+ look amazing, and they all have either. The Apple TV 4k gives me all the Dolby Vision I need, and I spent less than half the price of the UB820 on the UB420. Nice zinger though bud.
@@jollamawas that supposed to make him feel bad? 🙄
I got the Magnetar UDP 900 because in addition to my Toshiba XA2 HD DVD player, I can now play all 4.7 inch disc media. Not that it is necessary but the nerd in me enjoys that kind of thing lol. However, I can't say that I noticed a difference in picture quality over my Panasonic UB 9000.
You had me at easy menu to navigate AND it can decode mp3. Wow, where do I put my credit card number in?
Long live PHYSICAL MEDIA 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Hell yeeaaahhh!!! 🤘😁🎉
I have a physical media collection. I’ll just stick to my Sony 4k DVd player. Thanks for the review.
Same here :)
I've been rocking a UB820k in my system flawlessly for several years now, its a great player and does everything I could need including 3D bluray feeding a projector. Though I can appreciate the build quality of these high end machines.
Did you happen to find one region free?
@@Chrisratata not sure as I don't play out of zone discs.
@@Chrisratataif I'm not mistaken all 4k disc is supposedly region free, 1080p blu ray disc is a different story.
I'm glad to hear my $180 UBK-90 is competitive with $3k multi-media player for my needs. Even though it's all plastic it's a tank!
The best plastic tank around! 😄🎉
I just upgraded to a Panasonic DP-UB820, so I'm working my way up to the premium ones!
Woooooot! 🎉
Believe me, for Bluray players and Turntable vinyl record players, there's a moot point beyond which you can't squeeze or get linear uphill progression in price to performance. If you're investing more than $300 on either of these tools/ instruments, your investment is going to fall into law of diminishing return.
This review comes just as I'm thinking about a new 4k player however you never mentioned if you would would be willing to part with your hard earned. As I'm not related to the Royal family I might have to give these a miss or wait until an entry level Magnetar is revealed.
I still have my Pioneer Elite 88FD Blu Ray player from 11 years ago that still run like a champ
Paid close to $1800 for that thing and play it regularly too and it has not given me any issues.
These premium players are expensive, but the build quality on them are amazing.
Wanted to give you a update on my Twister 4k WB sent me a replacement and it does now play in the magnater
Oh no way! Did you just email them?
@@ealanosborne yes
My sony ubp-x700 still working fine since 2018
In my country the Magnetars are available, but very expensive. The only other new option is a locally branded 4k player, specs are complete with Dolby Vision and Atmos, and seperate audio/video HDMI ports. It's reasonably priced at around $850, a bit less if you deduct import duties etc. My friend who's an AV distributor tells me it's developed by Magnetar. That I don't know, but seems a very decent player. So only these 3 are available in my country!
Whoa! Well at least there is something available! 😁🎉
I've got the 800 almost a year old Glad to hear I'm not the only one with twister 4k issue I've got 2 copies bought the standard one when steelbook got delayed from Amazon but they played on my ps5 and my sons sony player so i gave him a copy couldn't get a answer from WB either about this issue
Apparently it is an issue with the disc itself. Panasonic players and others have also reported issues with the latest 4K Twister remaster. 🤷♂️
@@ealanosborne I have a Panny 420 and had no problems playing Twister at all.
Great video. Thank you for sharing this.
It is nice to see a DVD player that is well built and had some weight to it. Reminds me of the days when I had. Denon 5000 or Pioneer Elite DV-09. Those had some weight and were very well built.
That aside, I would have a tough time buying a disc player of any kind, at any price given this format has likely run its course.
I have the brochure > 800 maybe.
Panasonic 420 with a 9000 remote atm. The Mag 900 costs the same as my LG G3 77" in Australia 🇦🇺
I have the Sony 800m2 and Panasonic DP-UB450. Many TVs and A/V systems having video and sound processors are more advanced than premium physical media players, even the Magnetar 800 & 900 with a US release date in 2022. The majority of media players in the US market are from 2017-2019. However, those A/V systems can cost over $10,000.
There are many cinephiles that would love for a premium disc player that cannot afford the Magnetar 800/900 or Panasonic 9000. A product built from premium parts matching the ports and media readability as the Sony 800m2, and a power cord set. Don't need the rest of the ports. I'd buy that product.
Great review! I’m waiting to see your thoughts about JVC’s new MA series AVR’s! For us broke a$$ majority with 5.1’s and 7.1’s living room set ups
I like the Panasonic 820 but went with the Sony 800M2 because the build quality was better. I may look at getting a Panasonic though.
If you own a projector the 820 is a must 👌
@@kman9387 yeah I may pick it up. I just don't like paying $500 for a plastic player. If it had the build quality of the Sony, I would have been bought it.
@@percybedford6266
I feel ya!
But it truly is an awesome player. I got mine on Amazon for $419
Sounds like the Arcam of Blu-ray players. You can't beat the internals and high-quality of components but the software always has bugs and glitches
Writing software is hard, man. 😎🤘
Imagine just being the dog that lives in a house where the owners have $34K speakers and $3k Blu-ray players 😅
I live in an area where my Internet goes down a lot! But i got the Panasonic ub420 😭. One day ill get a premium blu ray player.
If you have a projector that's all you need.
If your display supports Dolby vision, the UB820 is all you need.
I have a Panny 420 too mate , it is me serving very very well so far. And it's upscaling capabilities are not mentioned nearly enough.
Yeah my G3 would support so 420 to a 820 recommended? @@jebo4jc
Enjoy not having Dolby Vision
I purchased the Sony UBP-X800 back when it was first released in 2017. It has worked well for me ever since and I have a sizable physical library. I still think it performs well but maybe I am wrong. I have to be honest with all my tech research Blu-ray players are something I don't actively research. Is there anything in the same price range that is better? If so what am I missing out on as far as features. Anyone feel free to enlighten me.
I guess the only thing currently that could one-up a premium 4K player is the new Kaleidescape Stratos V, since you’re basically getting the uncompressed master file, not a disc. But even that is $4,000. 😳 Once it comes down to $2,000, Kaleidescape will be a true contender, IMO.
@@ealanosborne Panasonic and a used OPPO have at least been on the market for more then a year and are high-end players with the OPPO able to do everything this player can do with legendary status and build.
A real 4k upscaler like a Madvr Envy would be a big upgrade for most people, and there is no way any blu ray player's upscaler gets close.
@@BobFrostV It better when you spend that kind of money
Magnetar looks nice, but pricey for what I accomplish and need. I bought my Reavon X200 at launch with the expectations of what the Magentar offers and was before Magnetar existed. Since then I ended up with over 200TB connected to a Zidoo. I still use the Reavon for first watches and special features of my discs along with my Cd and SACD library. Re-watches and TV Disc rips are strictly Zidoo anymore for me.
I have had the Magnetar UDP800 for about 8 months now and am quite happy with it. I did however not think the UDP900 was worth it for me, I do not really listen to audio cd's. The issue with Twister movie also happened for me with the UDP800. It went to the movie menu and when I wanted to start the movie, the player stopped and returned to the main Magnatar home screen. It took a firmware update, which came out two days ago to fix it. I updated the player this morning and the issue with the Twister 4k movie was gone, I could finally watch the movie I bought a couple weeks ago. In the span of the 8 months I have had the player, I think there has been about 5 firmware updates. It is very sturdy build, is very quiet and I like the OSD menu's, I am glad I bought it.
Oh nice! Once I get the 800 hooked up in my dedicated theater, I’ll def update that firmware. 🎉
How does the magnetar experience compare to the kaleidoscope experience compare????????????
Wish I knew, too!!!!!!! 😭
Kaleidoscope does Uncompressed Video
Magnetar has Compressed Video on a Disc so Kaleidoscope would give better picture
@@Music.Movies.67also have emptier pockets and movies on a hard drive that are encrypted and on a closed network system vs a physical disc that can be played on any compatible player. Also no Dolby Vision support on a Kaleidoscape
Can you download and store the digital copy of a film on a blu ray player?
No, sorry. That’s more what a media player is for, like Zidoo or R_volution players. 👍
Wow 😂can deal with all those letters... I have add🤩 this player sounds amazing!!!
How would you compare this to the Oppo (only available used now) and the Panasaonic UDP 9000?
I haven’t had the privilege of owning or reviewing either of those classic players, but I’ve been told by my Magnetar rep that they purposely built their players with similar topology as the Oppo, since they knew they were no longer being built. 🤷♂️
@@ealanosborne And I shall stay happy with my UB820 for now :) - PS I also have a Marketplace pickup LG UBK90 for my living room.
@@dongidongi It’s the little engine that could! I’m still hanging onto my UBK90, for sure. 😁
Just ordered one have it in 4 days!!!
Whoooaaaa! Congrats!
So is it worth it to spend the money if I want to watch movies with out the locking, skipping, pixlation, which I got so much with my LG 90 player?
If you have a large physical media collection that you watch often, yes, I think it’s worth it. 🤷♂️
@ealanosborne yes, 900+ DVD'S, Blu-rays, 4Ks and growing.
Just buy the Panasonic UB 9000. Does it cost as much and very sharp and good sound. THX wise?!👍
I’m happy with my Oppo UDP-205.
You should be! 😁🎉
I have a Panny 820. I love it but honestly, I couldn't tell any difference when I "upgraded" from a Sony 4k player.
I have both players, the Sony has a habit of freezing on some 4K disc's such as Batman and 1917, I purchased the Panasonic, no problems with freezing.
On a positive note I'm constantly buying brand new 4k releases and they play flawlessly on my Oppo 205!
yeah right i bought an lg ubk90 a few years ago and it has constant issues with 4k discs freezing. xbox one s is a little loud but more reliable.
2:17, hes got a CRT monitor! High tech here folks.
😂🤘
@@ealanosborne Btw the "Magnetar" website is down. Oof.
Magnetar remind me of Oppo
And those of us that bought their expensive players are now stuck with no more firmware updates
or backup if they develop a fault.
Think before you pay this sort of money for a Blu-Ray player.
Once bitten twice shy comes to mind.
OPPO still has a service centre for fixing issues on the player and no firmware is required beyond the last one that is still available. Still plays everything including the latest disc I spin on it asides from HD-DVDs lol.
@@Tidbitkid The service centres in the EU / UK closed shortly after they pulled out of selling them.
There was a website directing you to the firmware but that has now gone.
My players are still working, i have some laser assemblies on hand for when the originals fail
but if other OEM parts fail i will be stuck with an expensive door stop.
@@Barbarapape and If you went with a Magnetar product where would that be located? The point is in comparison and known dedication even after leaving the market to still have a service centre afterall it was a made in China designed in California brand of OPPO. I'm in Canada and they still have it in United States still requires shipping to another country expensive but good to know they still have a service center. The only thing we had in Canada was an authorized dealer which never fixed the players only sold them. By the 20x series they were from one dealer in the US from an authorized dealer who had both US and Canada authorized to sell to. This product also looks like many products like Reavon players setup shop pay/give influencers the product sell out and close up shop after last warranty. There have been many OPPO clones since they departed from the market with every single one of them closing up shop after selling out or discounting 4K players from the lineup. All while you can still contact the service centre at OPPO and find some one who will pickup and reply. Thus buy a used OPPO service it and still come out top of these prices or go with Panasonic who never left the market and is still widely available.
@@Barbarapape The website still exist for OPPO digital and has all the firmware available to download
I use my XBOX Series X for 4K BluRay playback. I’m happy with it but am curious what someone who has both the XBOX and a dedicated 4K BR player thinks.
I have both. The downside is that the xbox doesn't support dolby vision on physical discs. It is a huge difference with my OLED tv.
Yep. This right here. ☝️
Series X had some issues with HDR color mapping on my projector. UB420 fixed it.
Having an Xbox series X and a Sony x800m2. Xbox supports Dolby vision on games and apps but not on blu ray 4k ! 😮
Also Xbox makes quite a lot of noise when reading a 4k blu ray
I ordered the Magnetar 800 and the first day I had audio issues. Called customer service and doing a few things to see what the problem was they finally deemed it defective. So I shipped it back and asked for a refund and got it. So I can't trust this company again. I have the Reaven x100 and Oppo 203 which in my opinion is the best 4K UHD player ever made.
Have panasonic ub9000, would not change for those model.
I have always just used my Xbox One S and it has been good enough. If you don't care about Dolby Vision, then it works fine.
Once you experience a dedicated Bluray player, you will realise just how bad the Xbox is as a disc player.
With a non dolbyvision projector Panasonic 420 actually gives the same performance as the 820 at half the price.
Cant believe at those prices it isn't a universal player so I can play my other region discs. Hard pass for me
And it’s not too much to ask for either 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 😡
You can order it region free. It's an option.
@@GuapoteMel where can i get a region free panasonic 820?
@@Chrisratata no idea, I was referring to the magnatar
This Player, using Transformer as Power Supply (Said Caleb Dennison from "digital trends"). Perhaps this guy have better reliability, just like my Basic Active Speaker which using Transformer and still going strong until today 😅
Yeah, man!
Magnetar 800 is a nice machine but with 600 euros less i bought Panasoniv UDP 9000 and iam very happy!
Still a great machine as well! 🎉
got one alredy got the sony ubp-x800m2
I have this one too, love it!
Sadly my LG 4K started to freeze on every disk. Purchased a UB820, and it’s doing a much better job.
Just how it goes, unfortunately. Nice upgrade, though!
You could have equally made this video in favour of low cost Bluray players bringing more value for money.
1. Is the picture from UDP900 900 times better than LG or Panasonic or Sony Bluray players priced below $500, even $200?
2. If I have a large collection of physical Bluray media, a mix of A, B and C grade movies and 70%-30% ratio of Bluray- 4K UHD media, It'd make more sense to future proof myself by buying 6-7 units of 200$ multi region Bluray players and 2-3 4K Bluray players than just 1 unit of versatile high build quality 4K Bluray player worth $2K or $3K if failed due to any technical reason, I have lot of dependency there it being' single point of failure'. Low cost Bluray players are perishing fast from the market and soon they will become antique, rarely available and thus exorbitantly priced (allready happening that trend).
If someone is investing on thousands of physical disc media, they better also insure their Bluray players to serve them for next 40-50 years 😉
I have a Sony bdp-s1700,no problem.
¿Cuál es la capacidad máxima de disco duro externo (conectado por el puerto USB 3.0) que admite este reproducctor Magnetar UDP800?
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What is the maximum external hard disk drive capacity (connected via USB 3.0 port) that this Magnetar UDP800 player supports?
Up to 16 TB! 🎉
@@ealanosborne
Yes, I saw it on their website. 👍🏻
Thanks!
I rip my films and play them with plex vis Shield. This seems insanely expensive.
Be careful. Magnepar wont show sub when u rip ur own bluray via make mkv.
So that guys like you get a commission ?
Actually I don’t make a dime, but thanks for asking! ♥️
Guess what? My 20 yr old $30 DVD player plays burned discs , cd's, bootlegs, you name it. I am upgrading to 4K but will use both, I can get the 3d feature in a new player for $200. Absolute nonsense to pay $1500.
With about 950 DVDs and blue rays. Stream ing you just keep on paying nothing is yours😢
JVB oppostore in holland can not get them not for you at the moment. They told me magnetar and reavon ar do not talk togethere. Chinese an france. I gave my oppo 203 he is good and i use him he is top for me. 7 years now
Nice presentation Clint Eastwood... ah ,I mean...Ealan...!
😂
No 4k player should ever cost $3000.
Call it “premium” but no way it justifies that price. My opinion lol
I remember when lexicon took an Oppo bdp 83 Blu-ray player put their face plate on it and charged $3,000! People purchased it and raved about it and then the truth came out!
The Oppo, Oops! I mean, Magnetar will suffer the same fate as its predecessor. Lack of market interest. Those who can afford $3k video players will choose Kaleidescape. The hardcore audiophiles who are into digital will buy a midfi streamer to feed a high-end dac. As usual, most HT enthusiasts will choose an inexpensive 4k player, a good to very good receiver and cheap out on speakers. Those of us who are into true two channel hifi, but also enjoy a HT movie/multichannel concert experience will have two rigs. And believe me our two channel rig will usually cost us two to three times the HT rig.
Used Oppo cheaper than Magnetar, so that's the way I went. Got tired of waiting for a sale on the Magnetar. I wouldn't choose a Kaleidescape for $3k unless it could store on my NAS.
Count me out. Way above my price range.
Anyone know the history of this company with them fixing the units if they break after a few years? It'd be a solid investment if they did. So many electronics are to be thrown away once they die, and since they don't support them anymore, they don't repair them typically. The repair cost is not worth it if your $200 LG player dies. If I spend that much $2k on a player, I would expect there to be support. Motors will eventually die, lasers will stop working, capacitors go bad, etc.
Ealan- How do you feel about Chi-fi?
I’ve accepted the fact that all companies - even if they claim “made in America” - have at least some percentage of internal components made in China. It’s just how it goes. But regardless, I still don’t like ultra cheap products, no matter where they’re being manufactured. 🤷♂️
That 900 weighs more than my loaded mountain bike. 😂
I have the UDP 900, and this player won't even play the rerelease of the movie TWISTER, WTF
I’ve heard it’s actually the disc itself. Panasonic players and more have had similar issues with that release. But I agree…WTF?!
Thanks Ealan for another equipment review, sorry I haven't kept up on your(eyes & ears) videos, I try to watch them in segments, by the time I get through part of one you have another one available... hard to find spare time😞....(edited) I just checked Patreon and I see my card was expired, Oops...your payment is up and running again "woo hoo"...lol
Also: I noticed my state (Washington state) is charging me taxes to give you money..(what a bunch of rats)
Does Patreon give you the full amount I give you or do they take out fees?
I saw that! Thank you very much! :) And as far as I know, Patreon takes a small cut, I think, since that's how they make their money. 😄 Also, with the Eyes & Ears episodes, if it's any easier, you can subscribe to "The Eyes & Ears Podcast" on your favorite podcast platform and just listen to it at work or wherever. It goes live the following day in audio form. Hooray!
Originally I had an OPPO Blu-ray Player , but it was stolen !.. so I have no way to play my Multi-Channel Sacd's , DVD-Audio,Disc's , & Blu-ray Audio Disc's , inside my home ... My car will play DVD-Audio Disc's, DTS CD's or DVDs ...of Course I would want a "UNIVERSAL DISC PLAYER" Such as the Magnetar or if another UNIVERSAL DISC PLAYER is for sale from other Companies I would consider one of those depending upon quality etc... it's not JUST the 4K Blu-ray Video Disc's which are Important.... Many Dolby Atmos Blu-ray Audio Disc's are Available from Music Artists & they must be playable....
My Sony ubp-x700 is very good player and I pay under 200 bucks for it.
The. X700 is a great little player and plays sacd as well. I also have the reavon 200 as well and this is a good player as well
Is this a commercial or a review?
You can get a Strato V instead😅
I tried the upd800. Not worth the money. 15% of my uhd disks made the unit hum like crazy. I was told this is normal for this model. Such bs! I got the ub9000 now and all my disks are almost silent. The 800 uses the same kind of cheap drive the other oppo 203 clones use. I now have a cheaper oppo 203 clone for my ripped disks and the Panasonic.
Funny, how players that cost much can't even play a simply 4k movie.. I can't imagine getting my snacks ready to watch a movie with some friends and the movie won't start. 🙄😬Why can't they just make a player that output the Best Quality for picture & sound and still be built like a tank.. Like both of my Oppo's(cough)(cough)!! The mass market are Ppl like me on a simple budget. That can't and won't spend crazy money on a Highend play that can't play certain movies...Smh... But they are Nice...
Apparently it’s an issue with the Twister disc itself. Panasonic players and others have reported the same thing. 🤷♂️
@@ealanosborne Maybe, but i had no issues with both Oppo or LG.. Yeah, could b bad disc...
The SONY 700 or 800 make great players for a second system, but if you can afford it the Magnetar is the Rolex of 4K players and when compared to DENON SACD Players ( for audio lovers ) they are actually good value. I live in England and had to import the Magnetar from France and pat another 100 Euros for multi-region capability. Well balanced review by the way!
I have a, Pioneer UDP-LX500 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray player, since jan 2020.. More than happy with it.
9000 if you wamt end game performance
The Magnetar is a huge rip off, don’t fall into the hype about it. I purchased one and returned it when I realized my Sony 4K Blu-ray player did almost everythings better for a fraction of the price. The only thing Magnetar did better was sound and it’s sooooo minuscule that 99% of people aren’t gonna know. The Magnetar is a mid range movie player at best.
No Roon capability ?? Say its not so, Ealan.
Shill video. Hard pass.
Meh, perfectly happy with my Panny UB420 (Samsung tv, don't need DV). And I can spend my money on discs instead of paying off the debt for these overpriced players.
With $1600 players, no wonder 4K disc sales seem to be struggling.
Why is this a battle against an LG when Panasonic's are better? Oh, I get it, click-bait 🙄
Not worth it. Panasonic UHD player is good enough for 90% less
Nah man more then a couple hundred for a play is absolutely ridiculous
I am getting a cheap 1080p blu ray player, all good 4k players are too expensive and not worth it.
Let me fix the title for you, if I may: "WHY PAY FOR A BLU-RAY PLAYER?"
ROFLMFAO! Are you friggen kidding me? My PS5 handles my physical media just fine. Wow! Ridiculous!
🤦🏽♂️🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
I have a Panasonic UB9000:
"Why Panasonic UB9000's HDR Optimiser is Such A Killer Feature"
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It doesn't do SACD and perhaps some other edge case disc formats but I've never owned an SACD disc so, not relevant for me. I wanted the best of the best video playback. The Magnetar it also has XLR outputs.