Can Plants Survive on Mars? The Case for Mars 15
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2018
- The Case for Mars explores the different discoveries that are taking place on the Red Planet. In this episode, we continue the discussion on Terraforming Mars. We discuss whether or not plants would be able to survive on Mars, and what we would need to do in order to keep them alive. We also look into other means of creating oxygen on Mars, such as NASA's MOXIE experiment, and see what problems are with the current solutions.
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I hope you enjoy the latest episode of the Case for Mars! After uploading, I realized that the music starting at 9:25 is pretty distracting so I will be sure to stay away from the song for future videos.
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Yes, please do. It makes it difficult to understand in places. I'm a lot older than I used to be. ;)
This is something I've been thinking about for a while now. Good work, looking forward to the next episode.
Ok, what about the elixir of life? (💧)
It's not possible to increase Mars atmospheric pressure enough for liquid water to exist. Nothing could ever live on Mars outside a pressure vessel.
Well done man. This was very good. I’m looking forward to finishing the series with you.
Great videos ! The pace, the music, the informations, explanations... good job bro ! I enjoy them !
In my opinion, this is the best episode so far, enjoyed very much
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Great video , plenty of information and great summary .
Made me Genuinely curious !
Great work. How amazing to go to a Mars covered in Pine trees and with a habitable atmosphere. Wow.
Thanks for your video. Its well made and you are a great humble narrator.
Nice improvement on the sound quality. I subbed! Looks forward to seeing more of your content.
So interesting, thanks for the clear explanation, always wondered!
Very fascinating topic ! Thank you !
Great video with explanations I look forward to seeing the next video
I've been watching TV shows such as "The Flash" and "Arrow," and had the worst time understanding people because they'd murmur and whisper a lot, even when talking to one another across a large room. Thank you for narrating this in a clear voice. I had no trouble understanding it.
Truly informative.... and interesting.... Thanks.
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Nice series keep at it mate,
Thank you. Very informative
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Good stuff, man
Very good content delivery. Love your channel. You are a very good host. Subbed!
It makes more sense to completely simulate mars environment here and just toss a bunch of seeds in the simulation fields and weight till something grows. That would make more sense. And I also mean that the gravity as well has to be simulated. If it cant be done on earth then a near earth space station would be the next best thing.
thank you .
great work
dude you are a pool of knowledge ty for the video
great job. thanks.
Good idea!
I like this young man...very informative....👍🏽
Excellent diction, very pleasant for non-english natives.
Thank you for the kind comment, I am glad that the information is understandable!
What a great channel!
Thank you, I am glad that you're enjoying the content!
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The audio is a lot better, great! 👍
this one great video and that young fellow doing a great job ar it,
Instead of putting human in Mars, I feel like if we turned it into some kind of gigantic terrarium, we could observe how life evolves that way.
Thank you to clear my dout
The gravity of mars needs to be increased for it to be habitable otherwise it just bleeds into space.
The gravity on Mars isn't an issue. Titan has less gravity than the moon and has an atmosphere that is 1.45 times greater than the earth's. Making Martian gavity a moot point.
@Jack Bran That's true. Mars has no magnetic field. Which is why it doesn't have an atmosphere.
Yeah but how?
@Mason Nichols titan does not have a magnetosphere due to it's size but from it's proximity to jupiter. If potentially mars had a large moon then potentially it could have enough gravity in the area to generate a good atmosphere/magnetosphere but it would have to be a moon larger then earth's moon.
@@antwan1357 Jupiter? You mean Saturn.
I respect the Idea of Martial Wolf.Let us do those things when we reach Mars this 2019.
What? This 2019 or the next one?
I wish they would just start already, id like to see plants growing on mars before i die.
So would I. Maybe if I pray really hard. Perhaps a different god. Surely one of them isn't just false advertising.
Mars is heavily populated!!! devils control it for their spawn, humanoids using people from earth, I doubt they will allow other peoples to bother them!!!! .PlanetMars:It'snotjustarock Have a look!!!!!
@AD UNUM TRISTIS No thank you!!! I'm already 87, and didn't want to live past 60!!!!
Great video man, I watch a lot of science stuff like this and you still came up with some nuggets of info I hadn't heard before. One point though, Curiosity power generation 100 Watts per hour does not make any sense. Minimum kWh per sol over the year would be a better figure to use.
Thanks for that knowledge. But surely putting a few seeds or seedlings in the perseverance robotic arm and they are planted into the Mars soil would be a step forward in practical agriculture!
It would be a step to learning that that won't work. ;)
what kind of suits would they have to wear on the surface of mars? would it be made of copper to protect from radiation ? ty
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Great simple explanation I wish you were Our kid science teacher👍 🌱
I am still asking myself why nobody is thinking of redirecting an asteroid into Mars that is rich in water. It would probably only require a few nuclear rockets that change the course with calculated explosions.
Robert McCormack Nice, but I meant a REALLY big ice asteroid if they spot one
good idea
And what would that even do?
@@blackpage716 add water which would grow bacteria and fungi same thing that happened on earth
Like filling a bathtub one drop at a time.
Nice video. Big thumbs-up. I am not in love with the electrochemical process, because, to get an O2 molecule, you also break off a CO molecule which means you're releasing as much carbon monoxide into the atmosphere as you are oxygen. that would be a no-no. All good wishes!
It will be difficult considering mars core is not moving and theres not much of a magnet field to prevent space rads? Unless the core can get recharged i don't see it possible.
Funny that you had to briefly mention Nuking ,GMO foods and Nuclear Reactors, but these are realities that may accelerate the process.
The MOXIE machinery would have to be continuously running since the O2 may dissipate and even evaporate. Therefore a pathway using both natural and artificial accelerators would be the way to go and make the system more balanced. Of course, it would take more time, "generations" like you stated.
And yes, there is a reason to colonize Mars. As Mankind is looking to go into ET mode, Mars is the next, most natural way of doing so. You can use the resources available to establish a permanent colony there. Compare this to living in a space station, it would be much harder as the recycling would have to be perfect in order to maintain a closed-loop environment in balance. Any little deviation could be a recipe for catastrophe.
The Case for Mars is a book I highly recommend. The Mars Society has been looking at this for some decades now and they are the go to source/authority to the first steps that are needed to start it all.
Awesome Video Martian Wolf. I have a fun question, its about Mycelium. Mycelium here on earth is the vegetative part of a fungus, consisting of a network of fine white filaments. It is kinda like natures neurons for transmitting nutrients to specific parts of the ecosystem. Now, would if future mars astronauts brought mycelium to attempt to grow it in lava tubes so that when plants are eventually grown later on, they will potentially have a better time at decomposing and being reused.
That's a fascinating question. Anything that shortens the timeframe of terraforming Mars should be looked into. But I do not know if Mycelium can survive the hostile Martian environment. The lava tubes do have a more stable temperature range and much less exposure to radiation, but you still have the low pressure of the atmosphere. I would be interested to see how well they would grow in a recreated Martian environment here on Earth.
Totally, I want to pitch the Idea to NASA 100%.
Kenny Galindo - mushrooms thrive on radiation and can transform a toxic compound into viable topsoil. Check out Paul Stamets.
Fantastic presentation, I really enjoyed it. Can I please introduce 2 large magnetic elephants to the room?
1. What would happen to our effort of creating a breathable atmosphere if the lack of a strong magnetic field failed to prevent solar radiation from stripping the atmosphere away as fast as we could create it?
2. Nature, and evolution is stranger than we think. Could there be organisms that have already solved evolutionary problems in this hostile (to us) environment? If so, how do we address the ethical conundrums?
Research observation would then make a follow up. These are machines that are going to stay put for some years. They can comeback to see how these seedlings or seeds are coping!
Perhaps a Solar panel for "Solar Winds" catching radiation for power instead of photons is the way to power moxie?
Wow a lot to take in I get some of it but it seems i should of payd more attention in chemistry ,cool tho dude .
Not to worry about the lack of Nitrogen. It's prevalent in the atmosphere (1.9%), which is even more than the third gas, Argon (1.6%)
Good
A magnetosphere to protect the Atmosphere from solar winds
Yes, that should be simple enough. Should it not? 🅰🅱©
@@Graeme_Lastname I don't have ideas, how about a kind of satellite our groups making magnetic field by nuclear fusion?
@@brainiacmarco4014 All I "think" I know is that it would require a vast amount of power.
@@Graeme_Lastname You're right, I 've heard China was making an artificial sun with nuclear fusion.
I don't know if nuclear fusion is a reality now.
@@Graeme_Lastname Well, it's hard to say, china lies a lot.
At 54 years old I enjoy your Narratives, I understand much better now the challenges.
Thank you, I am glad that you enjoyed the content!
when i heard 2022 is in a couple years i had an existential crisis. cant believe were already here
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Good clip... just one way how the procedure could be sped up a little faster is by having some Earth grass with a little of Earths ground (soil) put into Marse's ground (soil) The Earths soil will have thousands of grass seeds in it before it is planted on Mars. the soil difference shouldn't matter for the soil that is being planted will adapt to the Mars ground and the moisture of Marse's ground will take over the feeding of the moss and grass, the Earth started off as a block of ice
Started as a block of ice. Sounds interesting. Do you have a reference?
Sounds breath-taking and fascinating just like reading a science fiction and yet, it might be possible in the remote and distant future of the mankind. If only we didn't kill ourselves before.....
I think it's better to save earth's atmosphere by planting and saving trees lolz
Veera Medida agree with you
IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE THINGS ZOOM PAST THIS PLANET THAT CAN WIPEOUT LIFE ITS ABOUT HAVING A BACKUP FOR THE HUMAN RACE
Absolutely
300mSv... in a hour, ah day, a year or hole probe operation time?
All the rocks appear to be dark brown and rusty, can this be a result of heavy iron contents in them.
Colonization of Mars by human in its current physical state is actually extremely difficult task. The gravity of Mars is 62% lower than earth.
Before sending life there, first bombard the surface with asteroids and comets in order to improve the chemistry, water content, atmosphere, axial spin, magnetic field, and orbital position. Maybe even nudge it a bit further into the habitable zone. Only send life after it stabilizes. Bombardment after seeding would be a biological catastrophe.
Well even if its hard all we need to do is catch a few comets that mostly water Ice and have them smash in the Martian atmosphere. You introduce tons of water to the planet which thickens the atmosphere and water really loves to hold heat which causes the planet to heat up. I'll keep up the bombardment until the atmosphere is thick enough to block cosmic radiation which is hard to block than solar radiation.
In the fertiliser business they talk about NPK. You will need water, nitrates, phosphates and potassium salts to grow plants on mars.
that video was absolutely amazing, allthough the music was a little Not on point and a little loud. Nevertheless great content!
Dream on!
1:38
More like, “Create New World”
The first and most important thing would be for the planet to hold onto to its atmosphere, wouldn't a much stronger magnetic field then the earth be needed to compensate for the week gravity? Make me wonder how many watt's it would take to keep this field going for one year.
how do we know if a planet is habitable.
they have "plant"
That's handy, even if the planet isn't habitable, at least you can die smiling.
Hey buddy!!! when you watch Mars video's, look closely, most are painted white, but looking closely yoyu learn to see them, white houses, and 6 to 10 in a slightly spread out bunch, then a huge white spread out area is usually a city!!... A neat place to look...Planet Mars: It's not just a rock cars, animals, houses galore!! Apartments...
@@duanewilliams7353 Planet earth is a better place to look. Insanity everywhere. ;)
@@Graeme_Lastname You got that right!!!! Insanity is everywhere!!!!!! I detest it on TV commercials!! I neither watch or listen to them!! They are trying to push insanity as normal!!! I just go ape when I see an insane commercial coming on!!!!
but not only plant
Liquid Water
i aslo think to have or gain many oxygen and warm the planet,adding some atmospheric presure is by reviving those dead volcano and making them active again,,becaus the soil and ground is frozen it wil warm up,release some oxygen,melting more ice on the ground
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The real question is how long will it take to terraform mars and could humans live on it as it terraforms.
Isnt the curiosity rover powered by a nucear reactor? How do we know the radiation it detects isnt from itself?
You measure it.
@@Graeme_Lastname Suck it
@@fergus247 Can't reach. :)
Wonder if rose of Jericho (resurrection plant) would live on mars
Also after colonizing mars the bactrain camel would be a good candidate because it has many uses and a strong chance of survival
Yep and all you need to provide is air, food and water. Whoops, must not forget the pressure suit, boiling blood coming outa ya eyes is a bit inconvenient when you're wearing sunglasses. ;)
how do we warm up mars:
Just put a one of em big ol' heaters in there
thatl do the job XD
The plants will be little green plants just like the little green men on Mars. 👽👽👽👽
Funny, we srtuggle to do it on earth and we should go and do it on mars...But interresting facts!
From the future, the electrochemistry method works
we humans cant even plant trees on our planet how can we even expect we can plant trees in mars💔💔
Forests being more abundant now than before we went lumber crazy would contradict that. It's in the lumber industry's financial interest to do this just as it is in hunters and fisherman farming game.
I think soil from our own earth must be used ,also plants must tolerate that much heat and cold, plants withstanding high temperatures can be used there, as for plants are the only natural source to convert co2 to O2
Need to grow them near the north or south poles or in a crater where there maybe dew and less radiation.
Some plants may survive,
Desert sort of plants
I hate the length NASA would go in order to prevent seeding life on mars
If possible to live in our Moon, may be think os Mars.
Highly fictious.
It seems pretty obvious if we ever decide to (agree to?) terraform Mars it will take combination of many techniques. I think the first step in the no doubt generational project would be to bombard Mars with icey asteroids or small moons. Adding water, greenhouse gases and heat energy (via the force of the collisions).
CJD Great point, I’m a few other videos I talk about how important the atmosphere is to terraforming. I think the asteroid/comet/moon idea would definitely work, but if we have a colony on Mars before then, it could definitely draw people away from that solution.
You want to erase the history of a planet? Why? Haven't we seen enough of that here?
@@Graeme_Lastname
History is meaningless without an observer. If we were talking about Barsoom instead of dead Mars it would obviously be very different. This discussion is about terraforming i.e. changing a dead rock into a close Earth analog. I was postulating an efficient way to do that. Whether or not humanity decides to do it is another question entirely.
Mark Watney did it, so can we!
Start with the deserts on earth. If we can't do it here we can't certainly do it on mars
why youtube doesnt recomend this to me!?
It's cool listening to science from Eli Manning's Son.
Wanna put a world's largest heater
hope someday i go in mars
Is it possible/ feasible/ beneficial to crash Phobos or Deimos into Mars?
Technically it is possible, whether or not it is feasible with modern rocket capabilities, probably not. There are a lot of theoretical approaches to redirecting asteroids, that could be implemented on either Phobos or Deimos, but deorbiting a moon would take a lot of energy. If you find that interesting I could possibly do a video covering that topic in the future.
Technically we just need to slow down the moon enough that it loses orbit slowly and the planet does the rest with its gravity.
Very good explanation
It's too cold that the CO2 is turning to ice, plus X rays, gamma rays ( no ozone protection). And what about the energy coming from the sun; is it enough.
What about the atmosphere pressure, and the third of the gravity we have on earth?
Those are some of the challenges that come to mind.
May be some kind of under ground plantations with the right conditions.
Great explanations in theory. But Agriculture, as during Stone age, must go into the field in practical terms. And that is what Perseverance is right now doing with the environment of planet Mars. It is going there with a bang most probably as a loaded cowboy or as was the first human being on planet earth. Anyway thanks.
Tara forming Mars ? Why bother? There's no magnetosphere !
But there are lava tubes. ;)
Terraforming* and a magnetosphere could be artificially made
@@benl8962 lol How?
2 giant magnets placed on the poles or a magnetic sheald built at marses L1 orbit
Mars needs a larger moon to start up the magnetosphere, let's pull one in from the asteroid belt, the chemistry comes later,
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Named Red Planet
Its about hiw human grow algea on mars and that causes gravity and oxygen
I feel lied by everyone!!! 😱
Whilst that is the normal situation, why now in particular?