@bowersfarms Yes it does. Its just retracted all the way. Ive run a 3 lever foot swing JD 310C. They are a BITCH to get used to. But, it makes you that much better of an operator, and makes you cherish the new joysticks, or the 2 stick backhoes.
Thanks letsdig18 . I didn't see that this one had an extendahoe. While I m not very good on a two stick I can really make time with a three stick , cant be much more difficult with a additional cylinder.
i like how copperheadmarine has so many diffrent things, since ive seen his videos wanna get a ride on his 215, she may be old but runs like a beast!lol
Case is a good machine , ive ran them since the early 60`s , they are tough and do alot of work , i like them ,, not hard to run , once you get use to them , its like everything else . go run a cable machine if you think a Case is tough , youll see what i mean , , thanks for the posting , I really enjoy your videos ! keep them coming please , thanks !
ok a silly question. all the backhoes i see in videos from US, they have these extending rear "legs" (the ones that stabilize the whole machine when it digs), but here they are all equipped with vertical ones. even same models have different rear "legs"
no, it's just a matter of designers taste, in fact, my step-father has a case 580 from way back and it has the same style "outriggers" or "legs" or "stabilizers" (whatever you want to call them) that swing out like in the video
My grandpa bought a 580ck and an E brand new. Case is the best in a bad place because you can run the backhoe and the loader at the same time, that is if you have a 3 or 4 lever model. I have run Cats, JDs, and New Hollands but Case is the best. They are the easiest to run after you get used to it. I am 13 and am not to bad myself.
A good operator takes his time in the beginning of running a peice of equipment for the first time. What he is doing is letting the hydraulic fluid to start to flow into his veins. After a little time the fluid starts to run to his brain with no restrictions and that's when the machine becomes part of him. If your a operator I believe for the most part it takes roughly 3 days. If after that and things are still be operated like a robot get rid of him and find another operator
you gotta give the man a break all you new guys out there with your fancy excavator controls on the new 580s come run one of these i'm 14 and i grew up running a 580 case backhoe when i was 5 i learned how to run a 580 backhoe,200c john deere excavator,a terex rock truck, and a gradall. So for all you guys saying he sucks its not easy not everything thing was like the machines today back then everything we had the machines that were all knobs and levers that moved back and forth not side to side
Once I figure out my proper working idle, it usually, smooths out for me. Every machine is a bit different; but for the most part If you have enough power, to supply all your rams at once, then the hardest part is backing off the controls..
oh, sorry, and also i've seen many other backhoe loaders with "fixed" outriggers, ones that don't swing out, but only press down into the ground. I live in the US and have all my life.
Not to bad. I had those damn 3, 4, 5 (whatever) stick machines...hate'em. I got stuck running a Allmand TLB a while ago...biggest POS ever. I would love to take a turn on the Champion grader though Charlie!! If not just to here the Detroit Diesel 4-71 JWAC behind me : )
@freakshow2000 the cost of line boring and new pins would be more than the machines value. just run them. And its not that bad, Im a heavy equipment mechanic/ ex logger. and I have seen bad pins
Is charlie really looking for a backhoe operator or was he just saying he would pay them to show him if they could run it any better if that made any sense?
@robby844 I dont need videos of Volvos, I have been in the seat of them.......they are great machines period. I know a guy that knows a guy that........whatever. What kind of equipment do YOU own?
Yup, those are a huge bitch to learn! Ran one for my uncle one summer when I was about 14, it took me so long to get the hang of it!! Don't k knock it if you haven't rocked it!!
Since I'm totally blind do you think you could possibly describe to me what this vehicle looks like as opposed to a regular one because I own a regular toy model but I would like to know if there's any specific difference in the look of this for stick and the regular?
when you say "4 stick" you're talking about the old "push-pull" lever type controls? if so, i first learned how to drive a tractor on one of those! well... 3 stick with pedal swing, 2 additional outrigger sticks, on a 20 or so year old tractor with leaks, low hydrolic fluid, no muffler, and I can do pretty damn good with it, it takes fineness and the ability to work at least 3 sticks at once...(wow, that sounds gay) oh, and i've NEVER had any training, i just jumped in and tried it
I just got a 1960's-1970's International harvester 3616 and am learning the 4 stick hoe on the back. It is tough to move smooth. Just like anything practice makes perfect. I hope to get more time on it soon. It is just for our property and i am a first time operator at almost 40 years old. So there is no pressure to be good or fast, but it is a lot of fun and very challenging.
Letsdig18 , you are very right "arm chair operators" are a dime a doz. How true..... Chris' ,Your operator skills of the video is good, time goes with speed and smooth operating. Good job just keep at it ... As I do recall back in the 1970's, the Deere was extremely smooth, and did have more finesse in working obstacles comparing to the two lever Case. The cases were extremely fast and little control over the quick and highly resistant pressure in the two sticks. . But, the Case three lever with foot swing was very accurate comparing to the two lever Case . ...Here is a great selling point of the older Case hoes as they had metal as good as the CAT. Thanks for your fine videos and God Bless all
Hey ! I'll be there tomorrow ! My first foot swing Case was in January of 1960. A 420 Case with foot-swing and self-leveling loader bucket and a torque-converter and more and more and more. They put anything and everything else to shame. J.I. was hot at that time and sill are.
I’ve got a 4 stick old ford. I can’t tell you how much I was beating myself up seeing how fast you run your John Deere. Seeing this makes me feel better haha. Cheers
as far as i know, yes, because it would be the customer who decides what the tractor will be used for and if they don't have room for swinging outriggers, they could opt for the vertical option, but i've never bought a tractor so i don't know for sure
I have the same machine it is easy for me now after 30 years off and on use. I hold the bucket control in my left hand and the two in my right and pivot my wrist and fingers to get smooth motion by running two or three functions at once. swing and out dipper to slow it down and then dump bucket. timing is critical to release swing before releasing the other levers. Move a rock around on the flat ground with the teeth for practice.
I would love to come operate with you guys. I have the same backhoe. Yep sometimes she does the herky jerky. It took me a minute to learn the four stick case controls. I been a joystick guy 15yrs till this 580k came into my life.
I learned the Case machine at 11 years old. I honestly think once you have it mastered they were one of the easiest, smoothest machines to run. I preferred them to the 2 stick Massey and John Deere’s of the time. Cycles were fast and overall the machines were nimble and quick compared to the competitors. There is a reason Case owned the market for many years.
I got a chance to play around with my boss' Ford 555 with 4 sticks. Its a challenge at first to bounce between sticks but I was happy to play in dirt with a big machine for a change.
How you guy can forget about the good old Dynahoe backhoe, thay had 4 stick to work it! I have run a 160 and a 490 Dynahoe and I miss my 490K Dynahoe! Now I have a 1998 cat 420 backhoe! :-(
I learned on one case foot swing as well as a dynahoe four lever. I can't use John Deere two stick or European style. Now I love standard excavator controls. Good.job ignore lawn tractor operator comments
First Back hoe I ever worked was a Case W-3...had 3 sticks .. plus the 2 outriggers and weird rods for your feet for swing... and 2 seats.. had to fold the hoe seat around when you drove it...
Nothing wrong with an old four stick, I ran one for years no problem, you just have to be good and play it like a piano with your fingers not your hands DA. Unless that is you don't know how to adjust detent in a control valve and don't keep the old how up.
@bowersfarms Yes it does. Its just retracted all the way.
Ive run a 3 lever foot swing JD 310C. They are a BITCH to get used to. But, it makes you that much better of an operator, and makes you cherish the new joysticks, or the 2 stick backhoes.
Thanks letsdig18 . I didn't see that this one had an extendahoe. While I m not very good on a two stick I can really make time with a three stick , cant be much more difficult with a additional cylinder.
i like how copperheadmarine has so many diffrent things, since ive seen his videos wanna get a ride on his 215, she may be old but runs like a beast!lol
Case is a good machine , ive ran them since the early 60`s , they are tough and do alot of work ,
i like them ,, not hard to run , once you get use to them , its like everything else . go run a cable machine if you think a Case is tough , youll see what i mean , , thanks for the posting , I really enjoy your videos ! keep them coming please , thanks !
ok a silly question. all the backhoes i see in videos from US, they have these extending rear "legs" (the ones that stabilize the whole machine when it digs), but here they are all equipped with vertical ones. even same models have different rear "legs"
no, it's just a matter of designers taste, in fact, my step-father has a case 580 from way back and it has the same style "outriggers" or "legs" or "stabilizers" (whatever you want to call them) that swing out like in the video
And here I thought Chris came out of the womb being proficient at all pieces of equipment. Nice to know that he is actually human.
My grandpa bought a 580ck and an E brand new. Case is the best in a bad place because you can run the backhoe and the loader at the same time, that is if you have a 3 or 4 lever model. I have run Cats, JDs, and New Hollands but Case is the best. They are the easiest to run after you get used to it. I am 13 and am not to bad myself.
I m familiar with a three stick with foot swing , whats the fourth stick do ?
bucket , dipper, boom ....and two for the stabilizers.
fun to watch chris preforming an epic fail on a machine that is to easy to operate to me......
A good operator takes his time in the beginning of running a peice of equipment for the first time. What he is doing is letting the hydraulic fluid to start to flow into his veins. After a little time the fluid starts to run to his brain with no restrictions and that's when the machine becomes part of him. If your a operator I believe for the most part it takes roughly 3 days. If after that and things are still be operated like a robot get rid of him and find another operator
you gotta give the man a break all you new guys out there with your fancy excavator controls on the new 580s come run one of these i'm 14 and i grew up running a 580 case backhoe when i was 5 i learned how to run a 580 backhoe,200c john deere excavator,a terex rock truck, and a gradall. So for all you guys saying he sucks its not easy not everything thing was like the machines today back then everything we had the machines that were all knobs and levers that moved back and forth not side to side
Once I figure out my proper working idle, it usually, smooths out for me. Every machine is a bit different; but for the most part If you have enough power, to supply all your rams at once, then the hardest part is backing off the controls..
oh, sorry, and also i've seen many other backhoe loaders with "fixed" outriggers, ones that don't swing out, but only press down into the ground. I live in the US and have all my life.
I would love to take Charlie's offer of going rate to run a Case backhoe.
totally right, these things arent like playing with tonka toys... not easy! Im getting use to it though :).... btw you look fine! doing great!
old Ford 4 stick happens to be my favorite. It guess it all comes down to what you first learned to run.
Not to bad. I had those damn 3, 4, 5 (whatever) stick machines...hate'em. I got stuck running a Allmand TLB a while ago...biggest POS ever.
I would love to take a turn on the Champion grader though Charlie!! If not just to here the Detroit Diesel 4-71 JWAC behind me : )
so its up to the customer to choose if he buys a 580 for example with either design he likes?
@freakshow2000 the cost of line boring and new pins would be more than the machines value. just run them. And its not that bad, Im a heavy equipment mechanic/ ex logger. and I have seen bad pins
@heartland96a the 4th one is for the extendahoe
Is charlie really looking for a backhoe operator or was he just saying he would pay them to show him if they could run it any better if that made any sense?
my dad was actually looking at buying one of these, what's your opinion
@robby844 I dont need videos of Volvos, I have been in the seat of them.......they are great machines period. I know a guy that knows a guy that........whatever. What kind of equipment do YOU own?
@robby844 oh you own none......conversation over.
Yup, those are a huge bitch to learn! Ran one for my uncle one summer when I was about 14, it took me so long to get the hang of it!! Don't k knock it if you haven't rocked it!!
anyone know why the gas is on the left and brakes are on the right on an old international harvester 3616?
@freakshow2000 trust me that aint as bad as the one at my work
the pins in the swing should be about the size of pencils looking at the massive amount of play.......I have never seen a more sloppy one
Growing up on a farm in the 70's, all we had was 4 stick hoe's....piece of cake. If I was close to your loc, I would show you how it's done.
i reccon chris did pretty good for using a machine he doesnt use every day. its all what your used to is a true saying
it is very easy to operate
ye, that wasn't a question lol
so anyone knows if it some kind of law in US that forces backhoes to have this design compared to other countries?
Since I'm totally blind do you think you could possibly describe to me what this vehicle looks like as opposed to a regular one because I own a regular toy model but I would like to know if there's any specific difference in the look of this for stick and the regular?
My grandad used to own one it was a prick of a thing to run
when you say "4 stick" you're talking about the old "push-pull" lever type controls? if so, i first learned how to drive a tractor on one of those! well... 3 stick with pedal swing, 2 additional outrigger sticks, on a 20 or so year old tractor with leaks, low hydrolic fluid, no muffler, and I can do pretty damn good with it, it takes fineness and the ability to work at least 3 sticks at once...(wow, that sounds gay) oh, and i've NEVER had any training, i just jumped in and tried it
@robby844 not a chance......
@freakshow2000 new volvos roll off the trailers with more than this
I just got a 1960's-1970's International harvester 3616 and am learning the 4 stick hoe on the back. It is tough to move smooth. Just like anything practice makes perfect. I hope to get more time on it soon. It is just for our property and i am a first time operator at almost 40 years old. So there is no pressure to be good or fast, but it is a lot of fun and very challenging.
Where are you located? I can run a 4 stick backhoe
Letsdig18 , you are very right "arm chair operators" are a dime a doz. How true..... Chris' ,Your operator skills of the video is good, time goes with speed and smooth operating. Good job just keep at it ...
As I do recall back in the 1970's, the Deere was extremely smooth, and did have more finesse in working obstacles comparing to the two lever Case. The cases were extremely fast and little control over the quick and highly resistant pressure in the two sticks. . But, the Case three lever with foot swing was very accurate comparing to the two lever Case . ...Here is a great selling point of the older Case hoes as they had metal as good as the CAT. Thanks for your fine videos and God Bless all
i can drive the 4stick and im only 16 my dad has been doing it for 25 years or more
good try though and your really good at the excavator :)
I learned on a Case 580D, I struggle on joysticks on a John Deer. Enjoy the videos Chris, fun watching the projects.
those backhoes are a bit tough to run. i have one so i speak from experience.
Hey ! I'll be there tomorrow ! My first foot swing Case was in January of 1960. A 420 Case
with foot-swing and self-leveling loader bucket and a torque-converter and more and more
and more. They put anything and everything else to shame. J.I. was hot at that time and
sill are.
I’ve got a 4 stick old ford. I can’t tell you how much I was beating myself up seeing how fast you run your John Deere. Seeing this makes me feel better haha. Cheers
as far as i know, yes, because it would be the customer who decides what the tractor will be used for and if they don't have room for swinging outriggers, they could opt for the vertical option, but i've never bought a tractor so i don't know for sure
I have the same machine it is easy for me now after 30 years off and on use.
I hold the bucket control in my left hand and the two in my right and pivot my wrist and fingers to get smooth motion by running two or three functions at once.
swing and out dipper to slow it down and then dump bucket. timing is critical to release swing before releasing the other levers. Move a rock around on the flat ground with the teeth for practice.
I've never used a backhoe. do I still get the going rate?
Wheres the fail?
The first backhoe i ran was the 580E Construction King. Good Times!
It's easy to type mean things on a keyboard, than it is to do most things. I'm sure I won't be very good when I try to run a backhoe.
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Probably isn't easy to run but I play with ancient equipment all of the time so... That and I can get a back for something really quick
I would love to come operate with you guys. I have the same backhoe. Yep sometimes she does the herky jerky. It took me a minute to learn the four stick case controls. I been a joystick guy 15yrs till this 580k came into my life.
I learned the Case machine at 11 years old. I honestly think once you have it mastered they were one of the easiest, smoothest machines to run. I preferred them to the 2 stick Massey and John Deere’s of the time. Cycles were fast and overall the machines were nimble and quick compared to the competitors. There is a reason Case owned the market for many years.
I got a chance to play around with my boss' Ford 555 with 4 sticks. Its a challenge at first to bounce between sticks but I was happy to play in dirt with a big machine for a change.
I’ve run a four stick, it’s been a while but I can do it. I’d love to come try it
They're not called 4 stick The called case controls or swing petals 👍🏽
I remember these things. What a pain in the ass. So much slop in the foot pedal swing
He hugely improved from the last video, he was putting piles all over the place
Never ran a 4 stick and I never want to!
Two sticks work quite well for me.
I can't tell how good the operator is, the camera wobbles too much.
706 in the background?
I would come run it, if you were closer to oregon, not saying i would do better. lol,
Cant get enough trucks and equipment.
can we get a nice female to tell us about the video please?
Now 4 stick case or oldschool ford controls haha if it's case pay for my flight and I'll come run it for ya
How you guy can forget about the good old Dynahoe backhoe, thay had 4 stick to work it! I have run a 160 and a 490 Dynahoe and I miss my 490K Dynahoe! Now I have a 1998 cat 420 backhoe! :-(
RcBoomer Garage Had a 190-4 and 200-4...now I am deaf..
at least I can't hear my xwife yell anymore. lol
They are hard to get the hang of, probably more so when coming from a nice excavator.
I own a four stick up here in Canada. Now I don`t feel so bad it looks like me running it on my cottage property.
@Xxslayer410xX this is charlies Jobsite
I agree!!! The company I work for buys cats only brand new ones all the time!I rather have a case anytime! the best is case!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you bud. I think this kid is a pro. I tried to run a 4 stick. I just can't do it. But two stick not as bad.
i would love to come and run it my dad has a 4 stick backhoe i think i would be pretty smooth.
I learned on one case foot swing as well as a dynahoe four lever.
I can't use John Deere two stick or European style.
Now I love standard excavator controls.
Good.job ignore lawn tractor operator comments
what are the footswigns for?
Still alive? Its to swing left and right
@@Whyboi007 Indeed I am. Eating evening snack now before bed. Thanks man
@letsdig18 that dont look like it has an extendahoe
@heartland96a that backhoe dont have an extendahoe on it
First Back hoe I ever worked was a Case W-3...had 3 sticks .. plus the 2 outriggers and weird rods for your feet for swing... and 2 seats.. had to fold the hoe seat around when you drove it...
Ill run the old girl for ya I run a case just like that exspt it has 5 joysticks
Use one all the time, not hard
Not ran one much not very good at it I belong to the operation engineers they give classes on them I need to sigh up for one.
hasnt he learned already??? lol
Nothing wrong with an old four stick, I ran one for years no problem, you just have to be good and play it like a piano with your fingers not your hands DA.
Unless that is you don't know how to adjust detent in a control valve and don't keep the old how up.
It’s not easy, I had a hard time at 1st but I’d like to have a chance at it again.
i have run one backhoe then go get on the same model and it totally different its all in what youre used to
That's what I learned on 30+ years ago
Practice makes perfect.
I've own five case backhoe,3-580 super e-ext,1-580k-ext,1-580 super l ext i'm looking to relocate if you ever need a operator.....
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@letsdig18 And you play around instead of working? i like it ;)
if u pay me i will definatly come operate that for you lol
Well least he is on a K He could have been on a B model !
Well done !!!
i will come do it i'm 11 years old and driving backhoe loader excavators
i can run it how much u payin an where u at iam smooth
Hay I'll run it for free just to have a go
i want to run it i want to run it !!!
HA HA Love it