A thought, but with Charlie being the daughter of Satan, perhaps her sending a demon to heaven would be an inverse of her father's fall. So in a sense, the reason he let her have the hotel in the first place was to regain his own Pride of being an angel. Also, Angel dust being the first, it leans into that I feel.
Makes sense. If Lucifer can straight up erase demons from existence like we've seen from other angels and more, nobody in their right mind would try to overthrow him
He HATE human so much he despise his own daughter letter supporting her career of happy hotel. Sending human back to God aka her grandfather. That make him "ENVY".
Stolas is not an overlord, he is a Goetia demon. Overlords are just very powerful sinners, and act as mob bosses for the Pride ring of Hell, since they look more like sinners than natural born demons or fallen angels.
Stolas' title in the show is "prince" goetial demon which is why people try to associate him as one of the 7 deadly princes but he is separate. Most likely he is part of the ruling class or royal family of goetial demons, hence why he has the title prince.
@Val I think he was comparing stolas to the princes, as in compared to them he is pretty weak. Though that’s just my interpretation of what he was talking about.
it s true he is not that powerfull himself but he has a vast nolleage of deferent subjects such as astronomy or plants and minerals and it is said that he comands 26 hords of demons
@Dirk SORENSON Ars Goetia. They are demon royalty and you can learn more by looking up the Lesser Key of Solomon since that's what Vivzie based him off of. I think only sinner demons have the overlord title but that's just my theory.
@Jack Morris i think its like in the middle ages, there are Demon Royalty who basically rule everything. But they let parts of their territory be managed by Overlords or basically Dukes Stolas mentions being part of the Goeatia Family in Helluva Boss
@Dirk SORENSON Stolas is a Goetia demon. One that was documented in "Lesser Key of Solomon," which is a spellbook of Demonology. Stolas in the show has a Grimoire, which is often what the book was called, as well. Stolas, along with a bunch of other dukes, princes, Marquises and Kings, are high-ranking demons that have a lot of documented things behind them: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_demons_in_the_Ars_Goetia Stolas, for example, is #5 under Princes, and it explains _he is "a Great Prince of Hell, commands twenty-six legions of demons. He teaches astronomy and is knowledgeable about herbs, plants, and precious stones. He is often depicted as a raven or a crowned owl with long legs."_ So... yeah. There's a LOT OF real demonology being used here.
He'll either be jabba the hutt of slenderman. Jabba the hutt should be obvious, slenderman is because someone who eats and eats and eats could easily be someone who is voraciously hungry at all times, which is a symptom of having a tapeworm, with another symptom being that despite eating large quantities of food you fail to put on or even loose weight. Thus, gluttony is just skin and bones.
@@tuckinatorinator787 whilst that is true, it does include food, and to be honest surrounding yourself with cars, gold, mansions, anima body pillows, and casinos is less noticable that just the food. (It could also support the slenderman appeance theory, but I kinda hate theorising about shows so I won't go into it)
Adding to the point that hell is one big circus... When Vaggie explains Angel who Alastor is, there's a scene in which Alastor's lower body is in fact a circus tent, which could represent exactly this hypothesis. In fact this scene is the background of my 2nd monitor ':D
That one actually might be a Vodou reference to a lesser-known Loa named Marinette. She’s the kind of crazy she-demon who would probably drink a gallon of gasoline and then throw a match in there to set her insides on fire for fun, and tent bonfire parties are among her favorite things. A symbol that vaguely resembles her vevè is even seen during Alastor’s Radio Demon flex. Man, there is *so much* mythology going into this Hell-verse. (That said, with Alastor, it’s usually safe to assume it’s a Vodou thing.)
In Stolas' song, there is a lyric that goes "When the seven rings collapse", you think he could be involved in something that he knows will cause his death and the destruction of the seven rings?
I think revelations (last book in the bible) talks about seven seals/rings at the end of the world. Which could have been what Stolas was referring to.
@@garybrown2039 Stolas was just singing when the seven rings collapse and the day will be his last. Which it just means he will always be with Octavia until he dies.
I’m kinda surprised, I do an rp where I’m one of the sins, Sloth [Belphegor], and I headcanon his hat is like a void portal? He can just pull anything out of the hat. So that’s kinda cool.
After learning about Satan in the bible. I’ve feel he should be uptop since his name literally means “Adversary” (I can imagine during the Great War while Lucifer battling Michael,Satan fighting the God himself) but that’s just me tho.
He actually has, or at least that's what is theorized, in the Hazbin pilot at the very beginning when that woman (Camilla) threw open the curtains to display fireworks, its speculated the male sitting directly behind her is Beelzebub but his alias is Zestial Morde
well mephistopehles is more of like a spokesperson for Lucifer in most cases, so I expect him to be like a secretary, or a butler or some sort of high ranking mionion to appears in Lucifer's place during meetings or something, if he appears at all
Remember the demon brothers in Obey Me: Shall We Date? Lucifer as the Avatar of Pride, Satan as the Avatar of Wrath, Mammon as the Avatar of Greed, Asmodeus as the Avatar of Lust, Beelzebub as the Avatar of Gluttony, Leviathan as the Avatar of Envy, and Belphegor as the Avatar of Sloth?
So the Goethic demons are appearently the royal houses of the hell (Mammon Beelzebub Stolas) so they might have all their dominions similar to the actual hell lore
Satan is featured a lot in Vivie’s comic, Zoophobia. It was written before and takes place in the same universe as Hazbin Hotel. He is a separate character
I’ve heard that the 9 circles of hell is when a grim reaper of some sort goes up to earth sent by any of the 7 princes(Satan, Lucifer, Mammon etc) and they kill a person based on their sinning energy(or how bad they have sinned/how many sins they have committed) and once they have been killed and sent to hell the demon prince that sent them puts them to punishment in one of the 9 circles depending on that sins(s). (1st being the least and 9th being the worst) And you can look up the 9 circle of hell punishments but either way it stills ties into the seven deadly sins and whatnot but considering Helluva boss and hazbin hotels story lines and how they’re based the “9 circles of hell” just seems to be the same as the 7 rings minus the extra stuff like punishment grim reaper blah blah blah (If anyone read this and sees something wrong please feel free to correct me😋)
The show mentioned stolas as part of the Goetia family. In Magicka (Wicca, Thelema, etc.) There is a thing called the Ars Goetia that is basically a list (or as I like to call it, a phone book) of different deamons. Stolas is one of them. He is defined as "A Great Prince of Hell, commands twenty-six legions of demons. He is known to teach astronomy and is knowledgeable about herbs, plants, and precious stones. He is often depicted as a raven or a crowned owl with long legs." Which I found interesting considering that Visipop's Stolas is an owl with long legs and sings using the planets in the visuals, and keeps with many plants around him. Satan and lucifer are also both separate deamons as well in the Ars Goetia.
is the robot a king or is he based of a jester whos a king? cuz Loo Loo land is basically a copywritten place? cuz i dont think there are robot demons naturally born in hell, right?
@@thelivingliver6715 I don’t actually know if he’s actually a whole robot though? There might be a devil spirit who is that is using that robot thing, idk, who knows
There is a "regular" fizz counterpart to Robo Fizz. Though we know nothing about what that means or who they are/were. I was watching Alex Brightman (fizz's Voice actor) doing his autograph signing and he slipped that little nugget of info into his convo.
In the HH pilot, Katie Killjoy speaks of the 'nine circles' so either the nine circles is merely another name or early installment weirdness and they settled on a different name for the show proper for one reason or another
I theorize that Charlie might be the first *"pure"* soul born in hell, and able to survive and surpass the wickedness. But, Alistor is her tempter, he'll be the one who will make or break her soul. So, Charlie is a *"demoness with a soul."* basically. 🤔
The powerful demonic princes of pride and greed getting into court fights over copyright is literally the best thing ever and with the two most suited for such a squabble princes too.
okay but whenever someone mentions the seven deadly sins all i can think about is that otome game obey me like??? bro i just wanna listen to the theory in peace without thinking about mammon trying to fight lucifer for his credit card please
Same! And when he mentioned the thing about Leviathan I was just like wait how was Levi even able to talk to someone (unless it's about anime) let alone have a kid??
Thank you for wasting/spending your own time searching for info and making this video in particular to explain us everything shortly or explain things we missed on while watching. Again, thank you very much for doing so
@@CartoonUniverse well there was word spending. Sometimes content is really bad so it's almost looks like wasting time. This one was SPENDING time. That means content is good
For me, The Magne Family is the ruling royal family of Hell, Goetical demons are aristocrats, and Overlords are like mob bosses ruling certain regions of a ring owned by Goetical demons.
So... "When the seven rings collide" *Helluva Boss S1 E2* appears to indicate some kind of war among the principle Overlords of Hell, and also seems to predict that Stolas is going to die (even though Octavia will be okay). I wonder if the Imps are going to take care of her once her father passes away?
I mean, it would be some pretty hamfisted foreshadowing if that does happen. But most people are equating it to the concept of rapture and judgment day, which is when all the virtuous on earth go the heaven, and everyone else gets stuck on earth whilst the entirety of hell and the entirety of heaven have an absolutely gigantic fight. The result of said fight is unknown as far as I'm aware, although it's presumable that heaven will win. Alternatively it results in a stalemate where both sides end up completely wiped out and the remains of non affiliated Life rebuild from the ashes.
You mentioned Ozimodius as being the prince of lust. Look into the new Helluva Boss trailer and that confirms the theory. One of the voiceovers says "elevator 666, departing for lust". And later on in the trailer, we see a big sign saying "Ozzie's".
So, Satan is going to his character! Now this really helps with my theory of these two shows being connected to Zoophobia. The reason I think this is because in Zoophobia, we know that hell does exist and which character from Zoophobia so happens to be from hell? Freaking Damien! And who so happens to be Damien's father? God Damn Satan!
In Episode 5. Stolas does invites Blitz & IMP to join him at the Wrath Festival in the WRATH Ring - confirmed on a storyboard shared during a BLM Stream back in June. and WRATH's ring is under the influence of Satan while Greed was under Mammon's and likely Lucifer oversees all rings at once and have someone who oversees PRIDE's ring for him).
Because 7 deadly sins are connected to religion. Of these 7 main ones, all of them have a demon represented. Several states in the Middle Ages were connected to the church so several crimes were for accusations of heresy or for a sin committed. According to beliefs, committing the seven sins means a betrayal against the teachings of God and the individual loses his place in heaven and will be condemned to hell if he does not repent and ask for forgiveness.
Because the idea behind it in christian myth is that these demons are sort of the paragons or patrons of these sins. They embody these sins. There's a whole laundry list of various demon princes outside of the princes of the 7 deadly sins, as well as dukes of hell. Stolas is one of the princes of hell in original lore, and is described as a long legged owl bearing a crown. His realm of influence is astrology. Hence the heavy inspiration in helluva boss with his super long legs, crown, owl like appearance, and heavy interest in astrology.
If you’re interested in his inspiration, look up the texts associated with Solomon and demons or the book in the Bible most people know him from. The book of Tobit, you can even learn about a potential angel in the series named Raphael .
Everyday I;m more and more impressed by people who finds, connects and interpretate such small things, which really adds so much to the story. I am a great fan of this particular part of Christian mithology (demons and angels for the context) so no wonder that Hazbin Hotel and Hellluva Boss are so enjoyable. To alle theorists out there - do what you do best :)
Damn it! There goes my second idea on how to become a prince of hell 1.Flirt with Lucifer ❌ (This is an AU thing) 2.Marry stella❌ 3. Sell my soul to Lucifer Guess I'll try number three
Fun fact, Beezelbub was a name that was derived from Ba'al one of the Kings of hell and chief demon of the Ars Goetia. Likewise Asmodeus is all a King of hell and part of the Ars Goetia. Stolas is in the same grouping though his rank is counted as Prince which is two rungs down from the Kings. According to the Ars Goetia it is Kings, Dukes, Princes, Marquises, Earls, Counts, and Knights.
The seven rings of hell exists in the Greek mythology when two men when to hell to kidnap Persephone while in the process getting trapped by hades strapped them down in some what chairs and stuck their till the end of time wanna know more look up overly sarcastic productions it’s a yt channel that deals with that kinda thing and explains it better
So far, I'm reminded of the game Obey Me. A time dating game that has the seven sons as demon lords. Lucifer is pride, Mammon is greed, Leviathan is Envy, etc. Each sin matches exactly what you said in the video with the other demons.
Time to shine,since ive done research long ago about stolas,he's not a deadly prince but in other lore being a few of the kings of the underworld but not by much,he mostly gives knowledge to those who summon n stuff and doesn't inflict harm in the mortal realm so take that with a grain of salt
@@martincaspary-smith1133 I WAS actually thinking about Seviathan's relation to Leviathan since his name is a reference to that, but that's all info I have.
Me who’s been playing Obey Me for the last few months now: vibing *MAMMON AS THE PRINCE OF GREED, LUCIFER AS THE SIN OF PRIDE, LEVIATHAN AS THE SIN OF ENVY* Me, spits drink: Me: Me: Oh no, oh no, oh no no no no
I hope we do. I feel like there could be some fiery drama and vengeance between St. Micheal the Archangel and Lucifer, but we’re gonna have to awhile to see if anything happens between the saints/angels and the princes/demons.
You might be closer than you think about the Von Eldritch family, note how all of them have green eyes this could be a reference to the famous quote of the character of Iago from William Shakespeare's play "Othello" in Act 3 Scene 3: "O beware, my lord, of jealousy; It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock the meat it feeds on," referring to the emotion of envy.
Lucifer is the king of Hell. But do you already know something about the other kings of hell or is it possible that they appear? But is there information about the other kings of hell and if you don't believe they can appear or be mentioned? For those who don't know who the four kings of hell are: Satan, the king of the north and fire, Lucifer, the king of the east and air, Leviathan, the king of the west and water, and Belial, the king of the south and earth. Edit: Isn't Leviathan the female counterpart of the Behemoth. I mean: Leviathan represents water and Behemoth represents earth. I think I read that Behemoth is male and because Leviathan is the counterpart of Behemoth it is female. Correct me if I'm wrong. Edit2: I forgot that we already know something about Satan.
Man, i really wanna see belzebu and i want to know if there are any relation/connection with cannibals in hell since belzebu being (supposedly) the prince of gluttony it just makes sense that he favours(?) those who indulge in their hunger, like for exemplo a certain radio demon :P
if you look at how the teacher was there in the first episode of helluva boss it confirms how human born demons are in lu's ring of hell. And the princes of hell are known as the ring masters
Surprising to see this after Asmodeus made his debut on Halloween of last year and with the knowledge I have now with this video makes it all the more easier to understand.
Im so glad someone talked about this! Also it would be cool seing Astaroth and Belial appearing as for example ex princes of Hell, representing melancoty and vanity.
I think the Seven Rings "collapsing" were a reference to the 7 celestial bodies known to ancient astronomers: Sol, Luna, Murcury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Stolas was singing about how his daughter would survive Armageddon, even though he won't. No, I think the Seven Rings and the Nine Circles are totally different in the context of the show.
The idea of all the Seven Deadly Princes being designed inspired by entertainers fits since the traditional lore concerning Lucifer/ Satan was that he was the head angel over music, or media, which is a really cool design choice in my opinion.
in the song of “You will be okay” in loo loo land Stolas might Die or lose his powers if the rings of saturn disappeared because if you think stolas family is connected with stars and other things
@@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 considering that pride is at the top, im assuming that as well as the pride ring, Lucifer is the ruler of hell over all, but the other ring leaders are untouchable due to some law about the rings and their rulers
@@ohthisguyagain5386 soo Are the others higher or lower then the over lords Or are the other princess ARE over lords Or lower or higher then them or Are they in a power struggle or Do some royal families control some of the over lords or do over lords control them selves "under" the other princess And do other hierarchies have power in different circles of help or just there own and those lower to them ? Jeez this makes Austria hungary look good
@@ohthisguyagain5386 sorry if this sounds really confusing im just Really confused I've seen duel monarchies like Austria hungary fail but this This is just Idk
@@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 I think all princes are overlords, and they are only natural born demons out of overlords, expect Lucifer. Basicly they are overlords, tho hold greater power over other overlords. Example Lucifer, Mammon and Leviathan/Fredrick hold much greater power over hell then example Vox or Valentino. I think Lucifer is Main ruler tho other princes rule hell to. So Lucifer is basicly Leader of princes and holds greatest power over hell
Which prince are you most excited to learn more about? I want to learn about Leviathan.
Satan
The prince of heck
A thought, but with Charlie being the daughter of Satan, perhaps her sending a demon to heaven would be an inverse of her father's fall. So in a sense, the reason he let her have the hotel in the first place was to regain his own Pride of being an angel. Also, Angel dust being the first, it leans into that I feel.
@@yorukage5926 aaa ok I didn't know that! I tend to use the two names interchangeably
Lucifer honestly
Lucifer is a fallen angel in Vivziepop's story. She's confirmed he has angel powers that allow him to hold sway over other demons.
Ohhh
Makes sense. If Lucifer can straight up erase demons from existence like we've seen from other angels and more, nobody in their right mind would try to overthrow him
And if Charlie is his daughter, she might have some angel powers too.
It’s said that Charlie has the ability to fly and summon her wings like her father apparently...
He HATE human so much he despise his own daughter letter supporting her career of happy hotel. Sending human back to God aka her grandfather.
That make him "ENVY".
Stolas is actually an actual demon. The Helluva Boss Stolas is based off, you guessed it, an owl demon named Stolas.
i mentioned that at the end though
@@CartoonUniverse oh ;-; maybe I didn’t understand that you had said that, sorry-
Ah I just realized The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina has a raven familiar named Stolas! 😄
@@vixiestarfire it’s been a while but you sure it’s not the cat
Yep, and Stolas was portrayed as a tall crowned owl/
Stolas is not an overlord, he is a Goetia demon. Overlords are just very powerful sinners, and act as mob bosses for the Pride ring of Hell, since they look more like sinners than natural born demons or fallen angels.
Yes, I believe he’s a prince to be exact
Actually most overlords aren't sinners, though the mob boss comparison is accurate.
Stolas' title in the show is "prince" goetial demon which is why people try to associate him as one of the 7 deadly princes but he is separate. Most likely he is part of the ruling class or royal family of goetial demons, hence why he has the title prince.
@@markusnixon3156 do you have the wrong person or...I didn’t say anything about a mob boss or sinners
@@mr.midnight23 I did not click your name, I meant to reply to the original commenter, I don't know why it replied to you?
Edit: fixed
Vivzie confirmed Stolas is not an overlord. He is of a different hierarchy called Goetia Demons. He's not very powerful, but he is rich.
I heard Vivziepop said Stolas is actually more powerful than Allister
@Val I think he was comparing stolas to the princes, as in compared to them he is pretty weak. Though that’s just my interpretation of what he was talking about.
it s true he is not that powerfull himself but he has a vast nolleage of deferent subjects such as astronomy or plants and minerals and it is said that he comands 26 hords of demons
@@Val17282 that doesn't make sense
Overlords are pretty much just petty rulers of different regions in a ring.
Stolas is not an overlord he's part of a different hierarchy.
@Dirk SORENSON Ars Goetia. They are demon royalty and you can learn more by looking up the Lesser Key of Solomon since that's what Vivzie based him off of. I think only sinner demons have the overlord title but that's just my theory.
@Jack Morris i think its like in the middle ages, there are Demon Royalty who basically rule everything. But they let parts of their territory be managed by Overlords or basically Dukes
Stolas mentions being part of the Goeatia Family in Helluva Boss
You would know
@Jack Morris i think they also might be more powerful then any overlords since they are so ancient and of royal blood basically
@Dirk SORENSON Stolas is a Goetia demon. One that was documented in "Lesser Key of Solomon," which is a spellbook of Demonology. Stolas in the show has a Grimoire, which is often what the book was called, as well.
Stolas, along with a bunch of other dukes, princes, Marquises and Kings, are high-ranking demons that have a lot of documented things behind them: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_demons_in_the_Ars_Goetia Stolas, for example, is #5 under Princes, and it explains _he is "a Great Prince of Hell, commands twenty-six legions of demons. He teaches astronomy and is knowledgeable about herbs, plants, and precious stones. He is often depicted as a raven or a crowned owl with long legs."_
So... yeah. There's a LOT OF real demonology being used here.
I swear to god if the Prince of Gluttony is not thicc in any shape or form I will cry-
Jackle The Mantle HE SHALL BE THICC
He'll either be jabba the hutt of slenderman. Jabba the hutt should be obvious, slenderman is because someone who eats and eats and eats could easily be someone who is voraciously hungry at all times, which is a symptom of having a tapeworm, with another symptom being that despite eating large quantities of food you fail to put on or even loose weight. Thus, gluttony is just skin and bones.
@@Santisima_Trinidad Well, yeah
Gluttony as a sin just means over indulgence in anything. Most people just assume Gluttony just refers to food
@@tuckinatorinator787 whilst that is true, it does include food, and to be honest surrounding yourself with cars, gold, mansions, anima body pillows, and casinos is less noticable that just the food. (It could also support the slenderman appeance theory, but I kinda hate theorising about shows so I won't go into it)
Adding to the point that hell is one big circus...
When Vaggie explains Angel who Alastor is, there's a scene in which Alastor's lower body is in fact a circus tent, which could represent exactly this hypothesis.
In fact this scene is the background of my 2nd monitor ':D
That one actually might be a Vodou reference to a lesser-known Loa named Marinette. She’s the kind of crazy she-demon who would probably drink a gallon of gasoline and then throw a match in there to set her insides on fire for fun, and tent bonfire parties are among her favorite things. A symbol that vaguely resembles her vevè is even seen during Alastor’s Radio Demon flex.
Man, there is *so much* mythology going into this Hell-verse. (That said, with Alastor, it’s usually safe to assume it’s a Vodou thing.)
@@HannahBanina Sounds pretty scary, but as a Miraculous Ladybug fan, the fact that her name is Marinette is just funny.
In Stolas' song, there is a lyric that goes "When the seven rings collapse", you think he could be involved in something that he knows will cause his death and the destruction of the seven rings?
Maybe an Armageddon?
@@ambvibing3226 you are a genius
I think revelations (last book in the bible) talks about seven seals/rings at the end of the world. Which could have been what Stolas was referring to.
@@garybrown2039 Stolas was just singing when the seven rings collapse and the day will be his last. Which it just means he will always be with Octavia until he dies.
@@ambvibing3226 you my friend, are an absolute genius.
Satan: Strongman, Beelzebub: Fat Man, Asmodeus: Lion Tamer, Belphegor: Magician
I’m kinda surprised, I do an rp where I’m one of the sins, Sloth [Belphegor], and I headcanon his hat is like a void portal? He can just pull anything out of the hat. So that’s kinda cool.
After learning about Satan in the bible.
I’ve feel he should be uptop since his name literally means “Adversary” (I can imagine during the Great War while Lucifer battling Michael,Satan fighting the God himself) but that’s just me tho.
@@magnusarchives thats kinda cringe
@@RabbiB0Y your kinda cringe bud
@@RabbiB0Y left your 13 subscribers on hold for a year? Probably another lol
I hope Beelzebub appears in this series.
Same here
He actually has, or at least that's what is theorized, in the Hazbin pilot at the very beginning when that woman (Camilla) threw open the curtains to display fireworks, its speculated the male sitting directly behind her is Beelzebub but his alias is Zestial Morde
@@xertion8567 oh dam now I need to check
Helltaker version or original vivziepop version
If that blowfly fucker shows up I’m grabbing a spray bottle
I wish that Mephistopheles would appear in the show, with the popularity in media
well mephistopehles is more of like a spokesperson for Lucifer in most cases, so I expect him to be like a secretary, or a butler or some sort of high ranking mionion to appears in Lucifer's place during meetings or something, if he appears at all
Maybe he's some sort of servant or underling of Lucifer, someone who deals with humans directly.
And that his deal with Faust is mentioned.
I recommend watching Welcome To Hell
I also recommend watching Welcome to Hell. And Becky Primm--just because Jessie is clearly Katie Killjoy when she was alive.
Remember the demon brothers in Obey Me: Shall We Date?
Lucifer as the Avatar of Pride, Satan as the Avatar of Wrath, Mammon as the Avatar of Greed, Asmodeus as the Avatar of Lust, Beelzebub as the Avatar of Gluttony, Leviathan as the Avatar of Envy, and Belphegor as the Avatar of Sloth?
This is the comment I was looking for :)
Same
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So the Goethic demons are appearently the royal houses of the hell (Mammon Beelzebub Stolas) so they might have all their dominions similar to the actual hell lore
All these duel or quadruple monarchies with there own governments within makes Austria hungary look good
@@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 the hell politics makes *Holy Roman Empire* and *British Raj* look like beggniners level easy
@@thedoruk6324 no kidding
I know why angle said " not big on politics"
It makes sense if their literally bigger then you
But Mammon and Beelzebub aren't Goethic demons
@@jackalo4673 they are within the lore of [Greater Hell or Inferno] thought
Satan is featured a lot in Vivie’s comic, Zoophobia. It was written before and takes place in the same universe as Hazbin Hotel. He is a separate character
I’m kinda interested learning about him.(he can be Lucifer’s Rival)
It originally took place in the same universe, but Vivzie recently said they are no longer considered so.
Zoo and Hazbin are different universes
Vivian stated that the two series are, two separated things.
Me: *sees seviathan*
Also me: *ministroke*
Same
So excited to finally see a show that actually has Lucifer and Satan being different characters.
It’s cool, it’s fresh and the JOKE POTENTIAL
It already has been
I think it's would be cool if the sinners would go to the ring of the sin they commit... Also a little less confusing
Thought the same!
That kinda makes sense but I doubt Lucifer would want that.
@@donnovandalusong266 lucifer would think that's too sane. MORE CHAOS
That's just Viv's story,the real story is yes you would be sent to the rings of what deadly sins you've made
The Eldritch family patriarch is actually named Frederick, and his wife is Bethesda.
It just works
Me on the last Hazbin/Helluva Boss video: “I would just die if you did a video on the 7 Demon Princes”
Me now: *MURDERER!*
In the hazbin pilot Katy killjoy says "what in the nine circles"
Don't give us more headaches
I’ve heard that the 9 circles of hell is when a grim reaper of some sort goes up to earth sent by any of the 7 princes(Satan, Lucifer, Mammon etc) and they kill a person based on their sinning energy(or how bad they have sinned/how many sins they have committed) and once they have been killed and sent to hell the demon prince that sent them puts them to punishment in one of the 9 circles depending on that sins(s). (1st being the least and 9th being the worst)
And you can look up the 9 circle of hell punishments but either way it stills ties into the seven deadly sins and whatnot but considering Helluva boss and hazbin hotels story lines and how they’re based the “9 circles of hell” just seems to be the same as the 7 rings minus the extra stuff like punishment grim reaper blah blah blah
(If anyone read this and sees something wrong please feel free to correct me😋)
The show mentioned stolas as part of the Goetia family. In Magicka (Wicca, Thelema, etc.) There is a thing called the Ars Goetia that is basically a list (or as I like to call it, a phone book) of different deamons. Stolas is one of them. He is defined as "A Great Prince of Hell, commands twenty-six legions of demons. He is known to teach astronomy and is knowledgeable about herbs, plants, and precious stones. He is often depicted as a raven or a crowned owl with long legs." Which I found interesting considering that Visipop's Stolas is an owl with long legs and sings using the planets in the visuals, and keeps with many plants around him. Satan and lucifer are also both separate deamons as well in the Ars Goetia.
Robofizz ain’t a Prince, HE’S A WHOLE KING
is the robot a king or is he based of a jester whos a king? cuz Loo Loo land is basically a copywritten place? cuz i dont think there are robot demons naturally born in hell, right?
@@thelivingliver6715 I don’t actually know if he’s actually a whole robot though? There might be a devil spirit who is that is using that robot thing, idk, who knows
@@sashasolo3607
i assumed he was created to look like the prince of greed, so i bet the real prince of greed is the real fizzarolli, my guess anyway
Y e s
There is a "regular" fizz counterpart to Robo Fizz. Though we know nothing about what that means or who they are/were.
I was watching Alex Brightman (fizz's Voice actor) doing his autograph signing and he slipped that little nugget of info into his convo.
In the HH pilot, Katie Killjoy speaks of the 'nine circles' so either the nine circles is merely another name or early installment weirdness and they settled on a different name for the show proper for one reason or another
It's possible that there are nine circles AND seven rings. Different names for different ways of dividing Hell.
Hey wait... is lucifer was an angel could that explain why charlie is inherently nice.......?
She has to have some angel in her so maybe
@@mementomori1590 also lilith was adams first wife who was sent to hell for disobeying him ( i think) so both her parents were made by god....
@@slayer_z4754 oh yeah lol
I theorize that Charlie might be the first *"pure"* soul born in hell, and able to survive and surpass the wickedness. But, Alistor is her tempter, he'll be the one who will make or break her soul. So, Charlie is a *"demoness with a soul."* basically. 🤔
@@slayer_z4754 yahweh you mean
The powerful demonic princes of pride and greed getting into court fights over copyright is literally the best thing ever and with the two most suited for such a squabble princes too.
I wonder who was the judge
It would make sense that 'Pride' would have a bigger ring than the others.
I'm surprised Lust isn't.
Or greed
When siners come to the imps they probably just come from pentagram city
Probably
Sinners cant traverse rings though
BRO THE CIRCUS RINGS THEORY IS SO SMART!! I LOVE THIS!!!
okay but whenever someone mentions the seven deadly sins all i can think about is that otome game obey me like??? bro i just wanna listen to the theory in peace without thinking about mammon trying to fight lucifer for his credit card please
Same! And when he mentioned the thing about Leviathan I was just like wait how was Levi even able to talk to someone (unless it's about anime) let alone have a kid??
@@sabrinasmith4793 LMAO
Now I love this and all but before we get some lore heavy episodes I want loona to have screentime since she haven't been in much
I would like for Luna and Octavia to interact
@@kinggidorah6910 angry teen with daddy issuee meets meth addicted homeless secretary with daddy issues
@@idiotgaming6376 are you any better?
@@kinggidorah6910 are any of us?
@@idiotgaming6376 i dont know about you but i am a bit better
When Lucifer is the price of pride and Charlie is bisexual
🤭
The pride ring should be the largest part of hell, it is pride after all
The biggest and first sin according to people that analyze and write about these stories.
Lol I think it should be gluttony
Envy would be the smallest, though
The one dislike is from Jesus.
There's 3 now, maybe its the father, the son and the spirit
The Holy Trinity
@@nicolasmouzakis650 That was a good one.
And the others are from the Angels
I’m a catholic 😳
“Hell is like a big circus”
Me: Oh, so like Earth?
Thank you for wasting/spending your own time searching for info and making this video in particular to explain us everything shortly or explain things we missed on while watching. Again, thank you very much for doing so
haha its not wasting our time, this is our jobs, its how we support ourselves.
@@CartoonUniverse well there was word spending. Sometimes content is really bad so it's almost looks like wasting time. This one was SPENDING time. That means content is good
Stolas isn’t an Overlord he’s a Goetical demon
He said that at the rmd
For me, The Magne Family is the ruling royal family of Hell, Goetical demons are aristocrats, and Overlords are like mob bosses ruling certain regions of a ring owned by Goetical demons.
@@mangodip2170 ya pretty much exactly
@@idiotgaming6376 rmd?
@@idiotgaming6376 no there’s another royal family that rules besides them
"When all 7 rings collapse, best prepare, as Satan will attack with all his wrath"
~Unknown~
So... "When the seven rings collide" *Helluva Boss S1 E2* appears to indicate some kind of war among the principle Overlords of Hell, and also seems to predict that Stolas is going to die (even though Octavia will be okay). I wonder if the Imps are going to take care of her once her father passes away?
I mean, it would be some pretty hamfisted foreshadowing if that does happen. But most people are equating it to the concept of rapture and judgment day, which is when all the virtuous on earth go the heaven, and everyone else gets stuck on earth whilst the entirety of hell and the entirety of heaven have an absolutely gigantic fight. The result of said fight is unknown as far as I'm aware, although it's presumable that heaven will win. Alternatively it results in a stalemate where both sides end up completely wiped out and the remains of non affiliated Life rebuild from the ashes.
You mentioned Ozimodius as being the prince of lust. Look into the new Helluva Boss trailer and that confirms the theory. One of the voiceovers says "elevator 666, departing for lust". And later on in the trailer, we see a big sign saying "Ozzie's".
So, Satan is going to his character! Now this really helps with my theory of these two shows being connected to Zoophobia. The reason I think this is because in Zoophobia, we know that hell does exist and which character from Zoophobia so happens to be from hell? Freaking Damien! And who so happens to be Damien's father? God Damn Satan!
well vivziepop say that zoophobia and hazbin aren't connected
In Episode 5. Stolas does invites Blitz & IMP to join him at the Wrath Festival in the WRATH Ring - confirmed on a storyboard shared during a BLM Stream back in June.
and WRATH's ring is under the influence of Satan while Greed was under Mammon's and likely Lucifer oversees all rings at once and have someone who oversees PRIDE's ring for him).
Why does The 7 deadly princes sounds like an anime series The 7 deadly sin
I'm very much certain that both shows draw content from religion to any extent
I don’t know
Because 7 deadly sins are connected to religion. Of these 7 main ones, all of them have a demon represented. Several states in the Middle Ages were connected to the church so several crimes were for accusations of heresy or for a sin committed. According to beliefs, committing the seven sins means a betrayal against the teachings of God and the individual loses his place in heaven and will be condemned to hell if he does not repent and ask for forgiveness.
And the Otome Games
Because the idea behind it in christian myth is that these demons are sort of the paragons or patrons of these sins. They embody these sins. There's a whole laundry list of various demon princes outside of the princes of the 7 deadly sins, as well as dukes of hell. Stolas is one of the princes of hell in original lore, and is described as a long legged owl bearing a crown. His realm of influence is astrology. Hence the heavy inspiration in helluva boss with his super long legs, crown, owl like appearance, and heavy interest in astrology.
Well pride is consider to be source of all sins so it make sense that only the ring of pride contains sinners
I like the vidio . But dud. Why is the mic peeks each time you make an s' sound . My ears
Lemme just fix that for you
I like the video, but dude, why does the mic peak every time you talk
It hurts my ears
@@remibraden4165 na he has on okey voice . On a scale from 1-10 its more of a 4.
@@hellothere7491 just like your age lmao
@@Subterranean_sebastian you like my age ? o_o ... 911 we have an emergency
Dante's Inferno is a videogame dude xD You're thinking of the divine comedy by Dante Allighieri
I think the prince I'm most curious about is the prince of Lust. Relation to Valentino maybe? It's unlikely, but something to think about.
If you’re interested in his inspiration, look up the texts associated with Solomon and demons or the book in the Bible most people know him from. The book of Tobit, you can even learn about a potential angel in the series named Raphael .
@@garybrown2039 Thanks! I will definitely look into that!
Everyday I;m more and more impressed by people who finds, connects and interpretate such small things, which really adds so much to the story.
I am a great fan of this particular part of Christian mithology (demons and angels for the context) so no wonder that Hazbin Hotel and Hellluva Boss are so enjoyable.
To alle theorists out there - do what you do best :)
Me Thinking about obey me the whole time:👁👄👁
Damn it!
There goes my second idea on how to become a prince of hell
1.Flirt with Lucifer ❌
(This is an AU thing)
2.Marry stella❌
3. Sell my soul to Lucifer
Guess I'll try number three
I wonder if Beelzebub would own a fast food franchise.
Can't you think of a more disgusting fast food chain? I mean, he is the "Lord of the flies" after all...
@@Tribalfan88x Petition to ask viziepop to have his fast food chain be called “lord of the fries” .
Fun fact, Beezelbub was a name that was derived from Ba'al one of the Kings of hell and chief demon of the Ars Goetia. Likewise Asmodeus is all a King of hell and part of the Ars Goetia. Stolas is in the same grouping though his rank is counted as Prince which is two rungs down from the Kings. According to the Ars Goetia it is Kings, Dukes, Princes, Marquises, Earls, Counts, and Knights.
🤩 Thank you! Thank you for making this one.
Btw WHERE ARE MY SUPERNATURAL FANS AT!? I know you're here
Ayee, I'm on season 3 rn. ;-;
@@NoFood_NoLife the third season huh. 🤔 who's your favorite character so far?
@@cookiegacha2701 I like Dean, mainly cause he can be an ass but know he means well. He's just funny to me, other than him I like Bela.
@@NoFood_NoLife Nice choice. Mine would be Bobby because he reminds me so much like an uncle I have 😄 plus baby aka the Impala
So umm... does tha- does that mean Charlie was dating her 1st cousin?
N- wait...no- no wait...uhhh..yes. Oh..oh no..
👁 👄 👁
I mean it's not like real humans didn't do that hahaha.... it's to keep the noble blood pure amright?
Oof mcnoof
UM
The father of the Von Eldritch family is named Fredrick.
the whole time I couldn't stop thinking about the dating sim Obey Me.😂
The seven rings of hell exists in the Greek mythology when two men when to hell to kidnap Persephone while in the process getting trapped by hades strapped them down in some what chairs and stuck their till the end of time wanna know more look up overly sarcastic productions it’s a yt channel that deals with that kinda thing and explains it better
So far, I'm reminded of the game Obey Me. A time dating game that has the seven sons as demon lords. Lucifer is pride, Mammon is greed, Leviathan is Envy, etc. Each sin matches exactly what you said in the video with the other demons.
Where's the Obey Me! community at?
SIMPS RISE!!
Im hear, and every time he says the seven deadly princes all I can think of is the brothers lol
yooo suppp
yes they even got the sins associated. can't wait for beel
Finally I’m obsessed with the concept of the seven deadly sins/princes. I think it’s so interesting to think about which character would be which.
I'm pretty sure the guy showed in hazbin hotel with a black outfit and green eyes, I think he is Beelzebub,
Time to shine,since ive done research long ago about stolas,he's not a deadly prince but in other lore being a few of the kings of the underworld but not by much,he mostly gives knowledge to those who summon n stuff and doesn't inflict harm in the mortal realm so take that with a grain of salt
4:40 Actually his father is named Frederick von Eldritch and I think Leviathan is the grandfather.
Honestly I’ve loved Basicly every character so far, loona and moxi are just kinda a big moods constantly. “She’s sensitive!” “yes I am!”
the relationship between luficer and mammon kinda feels like the relationship with mammon and luficer in obey me
Thats what I was thinking too!
Yup, this video checks out! Nothing unconfirmed or unproven is said and I really dig all these tiny details.
Faustisse once said that Seviathan's father's name is Frederick
That still doesn't mean he isn't related to Leviathan in someway or from. Possible he could be a great grandson to Leviathan
@@martincaspary-smith1133 I WAS actually thinking about Seviathan's relation to Leviathan since his name is a reference to that, but that's all info I have.
Me who’s been playing Obey Me for the last few months now: vibing
*MAMMON AS THE PRINCE OF GREED, LUCIFER AS THE SIN OF PRIDE, LEVIATHAN AS THE SIN OF ENVY*
Me, spits drink:
Me:
Me: Oh no, oh no, oh no no no no
Also if they're are 7 princes of hell then their counterparts the 7 heavenly virtues seraphim angels should exist too
Gimme that Ars Goetica video !!!!
It's so interesting to hear you talk about it and makes me excited about hazbin hotel
I would want to see all 7 princes of hell have a meeting with each other
**CARNAGE ENSUES**
Mammon appears in the pilot of Hazbin Hotel, wen Vaggie is explaining who is Alastor, he is in a image with Vox, Alastor and other demons
that doesn't look like Mammon at all, looks more like the real fizzarolli that robo fizz is based on.
That's not Mammon, that's the real Fizzarolli.
I wandered if we are every going to see any saints
We will. "Saintan"
Eh?
@@studyguy.7660 no just no
@@studyguy.7660 go to the corner
I hope we do. I feel like there could be some fiery drama and vengeance between St. Micheal the Archangel and Lucifer, but we’re gonna have to awhile to see if anything happens between the saints/angels and the princes/demons.
@@studyguy.7660 LMAOOAOAOAO
You might be closer than you think about the Von Eldritch family, note how all of them have green eyes this could be a reference to the famous quote of the character of Iago from William Shakespeare's play "Othello" in Act 3 Scene 3: "O beware, my lord, of jealousy; It is the green-eyed monster which doth mock the meat it feeds on," referring to the emotion of envy.
Lucifer is the king of Hell. But do you already know something about the other kings of hell or is it possible that they appear? But is there information about the other kings of hell and if you don't believe they can appear or be mentioned?
For those who don't know who the four kings of hell are:
Satan, the king of the north and fire,
Lucifer, the king of the east and air,
Leviathan, the king of the west and water,
and Belial, the king of the south and earth.
Edit: Isn't Leviathan the female counterpart of the Behemoth. I mean:
Leviathan represents water and Behemoth represents earth. I think I read that Behemoth is male and because Leviathan is the counterpart of Behemoth it is female. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Edit2: I forgot that we already know something about Satan.
Viziepop : write that down
Assistant : but sir he is saying ehat we know already
Viziepop : *just write that down*
Thank heavens i played Obey Me
Man, i really wanna see belzebu and i want to know if there are any relation/connection with cannibals in hell since belzebu being (supposedly) the prince of gluttony it just makes sense that he favours(?) those who indulge in their hunger, like for exemplo a certain radio demon :P
Nice to actually see the creator in his videos! Love your work, keep it up! Can't wait for more Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss. :)
I think Satin is a colossal demon that resembles a nightmarish knight wearing a suit of spiked armor on fire.
Or a Dark Non Corporal Entity.
Make the Belzebubs band canon, and put them in Sloth.
The 7 deadly sins turned rings
Asmodious is the king/ruler of Lust ring. Now I cant wait to see the other deadly sins!
*Asmodeus
Lucifer is not a dead sinner, as sinners cant have children after death in this universe.
Its already mentioned Lucifer was a fallen angel from heaven so while not a native to hell, he's also not mortal.
if you look at how the teacher was there in the first episode of helluva boss it confirms how human born demons are in lu's ring of hell. And the princes of hell are known as the ring masters
I wonder if they’ll have barbatos or king paimon/poymon
Surprising to see this after Asmodeus made his debut on Halloween of last year and with the knowledge I have now with this video makes it all the more easier to understand.
You're telling me Stolas was born in hell?
Sadly yes
Yes The Owl Demons, Hellhounds, and Imps are all native to hell
Why is that surprising?
You bring up a lot of good points I didn’t see in the past, now that’s an eagle eye if I’ve ever seen one! Keep up the great content!
7 comments 16 likes and 2 views amazing job youtube
Im so glad someone talked about this! Also it would be cool seing Astaroth and Belial appearing as for example ex princes of Hell, representing melancoty and vanity.
Satan better look like a catboy or I’m throwing hands (coughs in obey me player)
I think the Seven Rings "collapsing" were a reference to the 7 celestial bodies known to ancient astronomers: Sol, Luna, Murcury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Stolas was singing about how his daughter would survive Armageddon, even though he won't.
No, I think the Seven Rings and the Nine Circles are totally different in the context of the show.
The pride ring might be the farthest ring or the center ring.
The idea of all the Seven Deadly Princes being designed inspired by entertainers fits since the traditional lore concerning Lucifer/ Satan was that he was the head angel over music, or media, which is a really cool design choice in my opinion.
Love the vids
in the song of “You will be okay” in loo loo land Stolas might Die or lose his powers if the rings of saturn disappeared because if you think stolas family is connected with stars and other things
So
Who's in charge ?
Lucifer or???????
Cause
7 princes
Circles of hell
Royal families with other royal families
Different hierarchy
This is more confusing then British parliament
@@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 considering that pride is at the top, im assuming that as well as the pride ring, Lucifer is the ruler of hell over all, but the other ring leaders are untouchable due to some law about the rings and their rulers
@@ohthisguyagain5386 soo
Are the others higher or lower then the over lords
Or are the other princess ARE over lords
Or lower or higher then them or
Are they in a power struggle or
Do some royal families control some of the over lords or do over lords control them selves "under" the other princess
And do other hierarchies have power in different circles of help or just there own and those lower to them ?
Jeez this makes Austria hungary look good
@@ohthisguyagain5386 sorry if this sounds really confusing im just
Really confused
I've seen duel monarchies like Austria hungary fail but this
This is just
Idk
@@lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 I think all princes are overlords, and they are only natural born demons out of overlords, expect Lucifer. Basicly they are overlords, tho hold greater power over other overlords. Example Lucifer, Mammon and Leviathan/Fredrick hold much greater power over hell then example Vox or Valentino. I think Lucifer is Main ruler tho other princes rule hell to. So Lucifer is basicly Leader of princes and holds greatest power over hell
I like the Circus motif of the demon prince's designs
*insert obey me joke *
Mammon is actually....
A cinMAMMON role.......WAIT- I JUST GOT NO- BRUH! LOL