The Revival of MUA: Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 | Retrospective Review (Spoiler Filled)
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- After a decade wait, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 finally released to fans in 2018. However, not all was as expected. Now a Nintendo Switch Exclusive and in the hands of developer Team Ninja, the experience is quite a bit different from the prior 2 games. In this video, we'll go back and look at every aspect of Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. For example, we'll discuss initial fan reactions to the announcement trailer and how the game was received after release. We'll also take a very in-depth walk through the storyline of MUA3, the dlc, all the additional content, and how the game compares to the prior ones. Basically, we're talking about everything! Btw, this is a SPOILER FILLED retrospective review of the game, so make sure you've beaten the story before watching. We have a ton to discuss, so I hope you'll join me in revisiting Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 :)
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So, judging by the Voice Cast. This game seems like if Earths Mightiest Heroes got a season 3 with a Thanos arc. That’s absolutely awesome.
No one is talking about Yuri Lowenthal as Spider-Man
@@turdiuolyric8283 hes good, what you mean??
pjmask gekko
Wait what?
They also got the cast from past marvel animated and game projects from Wolverine and the x men, spectacular Spider-Man, telltales guardians of the galaxy, Spider-Man 2017, ultimate Spider-Man, and so on so yeah this is S tier VA right here
So glad Yuri Lowenthal is so well received as Spidey. I'd love to hear him in an animated series w/ the rest of these legendary VAs
I especially loved hearing PS4 Ock reprise his role as well. Hearing him gleefully chew into comic Ock's hammy and comically arrogant lines is such a trip, yet he's still a perfect fit for the role.
Karin, hold still
@@CrimsonMoonM Najid Jeter also reprises his role as Miles from the Insomniac games
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Contrary to popular belief, if this is based on the comics then Scott's eye beams are pure concussive force and aren't hot at all. He could probably use them to help break his own fall.
This is how I choose to believe he survived lol
Scott's beams may not be hot but they create heat. With enough force anything is capable of heating up surrounding material through friction
@@KneeGrowDoingKneeGrowThings I agree- your username is gross btw- I think anything that can stimulate particles enough to create a blast can create some kind of heat.
Like a lightning bolt.
@@DeathtotheAshes haha. Stimulate. Because of the username
@@alwaysnerdyretros
It gets better.
His lasers come from a dimension of pure photonic-kinetic force fans have dubbed the “Punch Dimension”.
This revival has me dying for X-men Legends 3
someday hopefully
Imagine if developers decided to pick up Xmen Legends 3 in a couple years.
It would be interesting to see X-Men fight villains outside of their rogues gallery to differentiate from theirs
@@skybite yea Fr it would even be cool if they ended up fighting an avengers or fantastic 4 villain
@@Dlyles16 aside from Doctor Doom
Imagine if they did more free updates with Vision, Beast, Valkyrie, Nova, Black Bolt, Medusa, Jessica Jones, & Winter Soldier. It even works with the character select setup by just adding an additional column of 4 on each side.
I legit thought they were doing that last year 😢 A second dlc season would’ve been awesome
@@alwaysnerdyretros It's still curious we never got Vision or Winter Soldier.
You forgot Ant-Man
Is War Machine in the game?
@@samyrandome425 No. There is a skin for Iron Man that kind of looks like War Machine iirc though so that's as close as you will get I am afraid.
Winter Soldier, a guy with a metal arm runs out into the line of fire to body-shield Black Panther, a guy in a full, bulletproof suit, by deflecting the bullets with his said metal arm
🤣🤣🤡
I was thinking the same thing. You could tell the MCU-Avengers hype was used to help gloss over certain things we wouldn’t have forgiven in a pre-Disney Avengers world.
Still bummed he wasn't a playable character...
I legit love this art style. It gives all the Characters cohesion. It plays to the switch’s strengths and makes it feel like I’m playing with action figures.
Same. Mua 3 art style is a improvement over the last 2 games.
I like it too but many other complaints from I guess the older generation would be its not manliness and dark enough. Like the previous two games I mean just look at some clips from the previous game. I don't understand why they like it so much but the tones are all subjective so it's fine. Personally,, I prefer MUA3 tone because it just looks nice than the others.
I noticed Marvel Ultimate alliance 3 doesn’t have Marvel Legends toys unless Nintendo didn’t allow them.
Same here
Same it gave me flashbacks for marvel vs capcom 3
Gotta admit. MUA3 has a much more diverse locations than MUA2 ever did. Especially having to play both Inhumans and Mutants in the same game is a rare sight to behold. Also most characters are thicc! I hope the success of this game on Switch opens to the possibility that they release on other platforms as well.
Even if it remains a Switch exclusive, they might make X-Men Legends 3 with this same art style, I’d love that
@@rosaria6363 Yeah, I'm not able to agree with the complaint about leaving the realistic graphics. I always thought it was a terrible direction for games based on comic book characters and one of the reasons I'm drawn away from the DC Cinematic Universe is because it takes itself too seriously.
It's just an art style, but going with the colorful visuals and not trying to be too grounded was a good move. I always liked the first game for the latter, as well.
Nintendo funded it so it won’t come out on other platforms
They are indeed thicc
Hela do be quite thicc
I miss grabs, and I really miss all the unique grapple attacks from MUA1, and I miss the combo specials from MUA2, but I still love this game...great roster, story, and customization! I can finally use Nightcrawler, Iceman, Gambit and Colossus in the same game!
I didn't buy it because I heard of the lack of grappling and that it was super grindy
@@belakthrillby better to grind for skins than buying them, and it’s RARE not to pay for cosmetics these days, so I’m ok with that. MUA3 is tons of fun😊
Never could get your hands on X-Men Legends I take it
I miss it too!!!
@belakthrillby there is a bit of grind, but that’s mainly for costumes and other bonuses, and likely if you’re trying to reach max level/go for harder difficulties. From what I remember, I was able to do the main story on normal (Mighty) without much grinding, maybe for xp cubes to catch some characters up.
This game had an uphill battle from the start. Switch exclusive, being VERY inspired by the MCU (villains you face, character designs, Thanos as the ultimate villain, etc) despite that the previous two games focused more on the comics rather then the films, and a storyline that feels so disconnected from the previous games despite carrying the big number 3.
Still a great game though
@@darkscorpion-donzaloog Not as good as the previous 2 tbh, lack of costumes and a story that isn't as interesting and good as the other two, especially since it relies *HEAVILY* on the MCU.
@@thegamerfe8751 MUA2 was trash in almost every way, pretty biased argument you're making.
@@ExtraordinaryFate FACTS lol
also this game focuses just as much on the comics as the other two games the only really mcu thing here is the guardians of the galaxy who only really got popular after that. Thane, the fantastic fours design, and most of the night/dark characters are all comics based and most of the dlc was only comics stuff that had yet to appear in the dlc yet the rest is generic enough to be no different from the rest of the games
Considering the game was "localised" twice, due to the Marvel team not speaking japanese and the japanese studio of Team Ninja needing to translate it as a story, make it into a game and then translate that script again to include this classic japanese cheesyness, this ends up closer to the various cartoons more than the movies and comics. Especially considering what the team chose, mostly by getting as many things visually and acoustically close to the 90s Marvelverse, evident mostly by the X-Men with Magneto being one line away from "X-MEN! WELCOME TO DIE", the voice cast from Wolverine and the X-Men along with Averngers EMH and other shuffles of voice cast from previous Marvel games that also reached foreign shores. Then you have the sneaky things Team Ninja put in the game, like some parts of the Ant-Man and Ultimo fight actually reference things like Ultraman Zero in its choreography.
To put it simply, it's as if the american writters just gave a script and outline to japanese studio and the people who grew up with whatever Marvel thing they had in their youth, shoved it in, with a healthy dose of Japan in it.
Which is kinda funny considering the Art style has a bit of a Fortnite and Anime look.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 Perhaps even a dash of Overwatch as well.
That's it! That explains _everything!_
wow that is wild
I'd argue with a slight dash of "Disney Infinity". Now isn't that a throwback?
The designs for some characters are very cool, mostly because they are a little of both worlds MCU and comics some are straight up MCU but ones like vision’s are very cool.
Yea true, i did prepared like example, vision and scarlet witch design in this game
I'd rather it just be comics
That's my BIGGEST GRIPE with Modern Marvel games today. They're trying TOO MUCH to look like the MCU! Even SPIDER-MAN's suit in this just looks like a combination of the Stark Suit from Homecoming and the Classic suit. Even the VILLIANS OF THIS GAME are so MCU-cliché
@@mr.iiconic you and I BOTH! I feel like the comics had Alot more to dive into than the MCU
@@DiamondBatToons yeah. If I wanted to see the MCU versions of these characters I would watch the MCU
Yes Marvel Nemesis Rise of the Imperfects retrospective! That was one of my favorite childhood games. One thing I like a lot about MUA3 Iron Fist is that the voice actor is the same voice actor for Nero in Devil May Cry 4 and 5, which is one of my favorite game series. Iron Fist was always on my team in MUA3 back when I played the game.
Oh I haven’t played those! He did a great job as Iron Fist so I’m sure he’s phenomenal in DMC too. I’m more inclined to check that out now 🤔
@@alwaysnerdyretros Marvel Nemesis is a dope game for sure. But you really, REALLY need to play DMC3, 4, and 5 lol. Won’t regret it
@@alwaysnerdyretros don't do it it's ass
Really, you don’t know Johnny Yong Bosch? He’s like legit the number one ranked anime voice actor. Well, idk about now but he was literally ranked the number one voice actor in anime at one point. He’s voiced Ichigo in Bleach, Lelouch in Code Geass, Sasori in Naruto, Vash the Stampede in Trigun, and Johnathan Joestar in JoJo’s Bazaar Adventure just to name a few. He’s legit anime royalty.
I KNEW Iron Fist sounded like Nero! That’s very cool.
It feels like the script for this retrospective is funnier, while not being annoying, great job.
Thank you!
@@alwaysnerdyretros Finished watching the video now and I think it's the best you've done yet, I never noticed the sinister six thing in the raft level. And I want to ask if you would want synergies to return as they are or do you think they should be nerfed? Personally I think they shouldn't be such an important game mechanic.
@@bed3396 oh wow thank you! I appreciate the kind words! I agree with you about the synergies. They’re almost mandatory in most fights which can feel a bit restrictive. I’m sure that’s on purpose to incentivize teamwork, but I think nerfing could help since Solo abilities often feel too weak. So yeah, I’d like to see them return but rebalanced.
@@alwaysnerdyretros the whole cyclops should be dead bit was FUNNY lol. I love how it was dry and not emphasized it made it funnier
This version of Spider-Man and Venom is interesting, as Spidey here is far more willing to team up with Venom and the Green Goblin unlike his grudge holding comicbook counterpart. (fun fact both Eddie and the symbiote forgave Peter and stopped wanting to kill him long before Peter would forgive them) Eddie and the symbiote are also acknowledged as the anti-heroes they are in the comics to the point of notably not wanting to fight the heroes in the boss fight but doing so anyway for their freedom and not eating Electro. This is extremely notable as Eddie does not actually eat people in the comics, he just uses the threat of doing so as a scare tactic, with the Scorpion being the first person to actually do so. With the exceptions of Venom threatening Spidey before teaming up without being provoked first and having animosity towards all spider themed heroes, (which is extremely off and weird especially for Miles) this is actually one of the most faithful renditions of the character, albeit their 90s characterization. All of these characters was at one point on one point or another on the Sinister Six, complete with Venom turning on the team the first chance they get, though never this specific list. (Venom's version did have Sandman, Mysterio and Electro though)
The Infinity Sentinel is indeed a game exclusive. I however don't think it is a soft reboot or a continuation but instead a hard reboot. As nothing here really lines up with the world shown in MUA 1 and 2 and some aspects like Nick outright contradict it. I'm also not a fan of any the additional modes MUA3 has to offer (besides the story expansion) or a potential horde mode and much rather see a return of comic missions and hub worlds with unique character based dialogue. To be honest gameplay modes just for gameplay's sake without any story or character relevance don't appeal to me in the slightest. While it isn't a deal breaker and I do find MUA3 to be funner to play than MUA2, I don't like how synergy dependent the game is and I also miss the ability to go it alone like in MUA1. Venom also gameplay wise isn't really faithful to the comic version, nor does he have the healing factor trait for some reason but I can't really fault them too much for it as Venom would become a bruiser clone of Spidey in game that already has two similar spider people and unfaithful as it may be I still love the MvC moves. Despite my complaints I do agree this game doesn't get the praise it deserves and I actually think this game has the best art style out of the 3. I also agree this game's story did a good job.
My rankings are,
1. MUA1
2. MUA3
3. MUA2
Thank you for the additional insight into venom from the comics! I’m a fan of the character but I haven’t read a lot of his stuff, so it’s interesting to hear how it compares to his game counterpart. Thanks for sharing! I agree that comic missions and hub worlds are an exclusion I miss too. Hopefully they return in a 4th game
@@alwaysnerdyretros
Sorry for the late reply and you're welcome! If you ever get the time and money and want to get into Venom, I can recommend you a few TPBs and runs.
For Eddie there is no better place to start than the Venom Lethal Protector TPB which has his first adventure as the title character and his canon backstory for Eddie. (the TPB Dark Origin is non canon and was made to tie into the horrible Spider-Man 3 version)
If you instead want to hit the ground running Mike Costa's run (starting from #150 or the TPB Venom Vol. 2: The Land Before Crime is another good start as it captures the feel of Eddie's original run of miniseries after miniseries but with better, more consistent writing and more character development.
The recent and soon to be ending run by Donny Cates is also mostly good, though he goes for a darker tone that is not usually typical for the character. This starts with the TPB Venom by Donny Cates Vol 1 Rex. A quick warning if you choose this route Marvel as far as I know does not have a easy to buy good collection for the Absolute Carnage event and some of the tie ins don't matter and are outright contradicted in the main event and Venom books. From what I remember the only tie ins that actually mattered was the Venom tie ins, the Scream one, (though more because that spins off to its own series) the Separation Anxiety one and the Lethal Protectors one.
Some transnational TPBs for Eddie are Spider-Man New Ways to Die, which sees him return as Anti-Venom after getting rid of the Venom symbiote before Civil War (symbiote became evil after absorbing a evil clone) and marks the start of the direction he is in now for Modern Marvel. While Go Down Swinging has Peter FINALLY forgiving Eddie and the Venom symbiote and marks their transition to friends as seen in Absolute Carnage. Both were done by Dan Slott.
Other Venom runs I recommend to get you started are where Flash was the host by Rick Remender and Cullen Bunn, both have really good collections if pricey. (Its Venom than insert the writer's name than collection)
@@TheSwordsman100 thank you for the suggestions! Like you recommended I’ll probably start with lethal protector and continue on from there. Assuming it’s on Marvel Unlimited. I’ll try and pick from there first if possible
@@alwaysnerdyretros
You're welcome and thank you for showing interest in the actual character! I could never get into digital but I'm sure by now Unlimited should have it as it is a 90s book.
@@TheSwordsman100 No problem! I love Venom, I really should have read most of those you mentioned by now anyway lol. I prefer having the comics in hand too, but that hobby is getting too expensive lol
24:24 X-Men ‘97 came out today. Cyclops saves himself from falling using his optic blast. Saw that and remembered this video. Figured I’d give some insight in case that happened here as well
Steve Blum also voiced Green Goblin here (as he did in Spectacular Spider-Man), and they also got Doc Ock from the PS4/ps5 Spider-Man game. Edit: you probably already knew that lol
Wow! What a great voice actor.
Ock VA voices Rigby from Regular Show
I didn’t mention those but I’m glad you called attention to it! So many talented voice actors in this game!
@@markmagician2471 that’s awesome, didn’t know that!
@@alwaysnerdyretros aside from Ultron’s voice
So I got a switch when this game was announced. I also bought the season pass, something I almost never do...that being said, I LOVE this game. It is so easy to just get in a groove and play for hours. So many characters that feel incredibly fun to play. Also my 6 year old son finds this game to be amazing! He has such a ball just jamming through levels and playing all his favorite heroes. Really hope they make a 4th as I'll be right there on release day.
MUA3 is confirmed to take place in a different continuity. Great video! Looking forward to the X-Men Legends ones!
damn...
Makes sense why dooms there then
It's kind of funny that you completely forgot about Valkyrie during the Hel section. Kind of says a lot about how much she contributes to the story.
It was mostly because I was going so long on the story that I felt like I needed to trim certain parts. But yeah she doesn’t really contribute at all to that section lol
The time and effort you put in these videos is amazing. I grew up playing most if not all of the games you talk about and I love hearing someone talk about them the way I remembered them.
Thank you!!! I’m glad the effort is coming through :) Are there any other games in particular you’d be interested in hearing about?
@@alwaysnerdyretros Marvel vs Capcom series would be nice or Spiderman Shattered Dimensions
34:50 Bucky had to tell them to leave like 4 times before they'd do anything.
Cap doesn’t want to lose him again 😫
@@alwaysnerdyretros Why Why Why is he not playable???
Also he sounds eerily like Keanu Reeves' John Wick
@@kmshana94 Because he just didn't cut maybe if they were given more resources.
@@Furkward i remember when the game first released i tought we would get monthly updates with new characters every month and winter soldier would come in one of these update
Ya know. For a game that was at first lambasted for its different art style. I see images of this games versions of the characters whenever someone’s trying to start a conversation about a certain character in a video essay or short. Despite it clearly trying to replicate the MCU’s aesthetic. I’d argue these have become the definitive looks for these characters.
One and a half hours of Always Nerdy Quality Content. I hope this Retrospective continues.
I definitely plan on it! Thanks for watching!
Cripes on Friday, I just realized the video is that long after watching almost all of it. Certainly does not feel like it’s that long
MUA1 has its own story
MUA2 took inspiration from Civil War and Secret War (No not SECRET WARS)
MUA3 took inspiration from both the Infinity Gauntlet storyline, Infinity storyline, and the MCU
I clicked so fast! Love this game and series, can’t wait to see what you have to say about it.
Thank you! Let me know what you think when you get a chance to watch
Same!
Moment of silence for wade’s tacos😔
Never played UA3 but I was a huge fan of the other games when I was younger. This was a great watch to see how much the series has changed from what I remember
Gotta love how they tried redeeming starlord by having him come up with the big brain idea at the end.
I think my biggest complaint about UA3 is the lack of detail density compared to the first. Exploring home bases was so fun in UA 1. You had the quiz mini games, conversations with minor supporting characters, and all sorts of Easter eggs. And the ISO-8 system, while mostly troubled with tedium, also has the issue of being bland compared to the collectible equip items you'd get in the old games. Aside from being more user friendly to sort through, the collectible items were fun to find. You'd get a bionic arm from beating the Winter Soldier, go to Asgard to forge Asgard armor, beat Loki and get trolled with "Loki's Gift". ISO-8 is so uninteresting, aesthetically.
the game is on switch, what you expect levels of detail like the ps4 or xbox or something???
@@imsmart799 You're talking graphics, I'm talking content. The switch can absolutely give us as much activities as a game that came out on the ps2 in 2006
Favorite cutscene is the reunion of everybody in the DLC. Seeing characters that weren’t in the main story is so cool.
I REALLY love this game! Honestly I was hyped at that reveal trailer cause seeing Ultimo, Green Goblin, the X-men and Sentinels made me think it was leaning much more towards the comics. And the new art style looked like it let them do really smooth and expressive animations that would've been much harder with a more realistic art style. And I think they absolutely NAILED the story! Seeing all the locations and characters was just awesome. And the dialogue is the kind of cheesy comic stuff that I absolutely live for! I just think the combat can get really overwhelming sometimes and some of the levels feel like they could've been designed better to be less frustrating (Hel in particular), but that could just be me.
I agree. Though even if Hel is annoying, I feel like Doom Castle level with all those lasers and the Celestial shooting at you is the worst by far
I can't describe how good is this review in general, you actually show exactly what you liked and what could be better for us and devs to understand. Incredible job doing all of this
and basically our goal is to get him as hard as possible before finishing him off"
i dont think homie was thinking when he said that lol
if ur wondering its his explanation for defeating sandman
I would die if we had a show with the same voice cast in this game. It is just amazing. Usually, there’s one or a few who sounds off but everyone here sounds great
Earth’s Mightiest Heroes is the closest we’re gonna get
Omfg that Iron Fist cinematic was better than anything Netflix did with the character
He’s also my fave character so I loved hearing u say he was yours too
I’ve been waiting for this. I can say that this is my favourite game series without a doubt and it’s the reason I watch your channel so much
Thank you! I love it too which is probably obvious lol. I played this series way too much as a kid
ULTIMATE ALLIANCE 4 MAKE A MOVE ALREADY
On all platforms and a deep roster like the first Ultimate Alliance
@@clarkkent7064 Do not feed the hopes of a possible MUA4 being multiplatform, because when Nintendo gets a franchise it’s hardly let go, Bayonetta is there to prove it
I was mad when they put Elsa Bloodstone into the game because she was a waste of a slot in my opinion, we could of had characters like the in humans but sadly no
@@vaclaw1177 sad Elsa bloodstone noises*
@@clarkkent7064 MUA 1 had characters locked behind pay walls MUA2 had characters we don't really see much. MUA 3 had lots of character can't lie good roster.
This game really feels like a callback to the late 2000s era of Marvel animation. The tone, art style, and voice cast are all drawing fairly heavily from Avengers: EMH and Wolverine and the X-Men.
Honestly the fact that this was switch exclusive is pretty much why it wasn't as big as it could have been. Really hoping the next ultimate alliance game isn't an exclusive.
I would not mind a Switch and I would love to play UA3 but I just have never been able to justify buying one for the 3 games I’m interested in
Yay, was really excited to see you do this! I just revisited MUA3 myself recently and my thoughts really changed on it. At first I was sort of mixed on it but on revisiting it, there’s a lot to like, though I still have some issues. I love the artstyle; it fits the marvel universe perfectly and makes the characters look more like themselves than the more gritty artstyle of the first 2 games. The combat is also more tactical than I originally gave it credit for and characters feel quite unique even though a lot of them have some similar skills; I liked that some had more aerial focus while others had more stagger focus. I also think it has the best roster and everyone looks phenomenal. My major issue is how grindy it is....I don’t play MUA for the side modes, I play it for the story and being able to switch between characters whenever I got to SHIELD point was so fun and allowed for more exploration. I can’t do that unless I exhaustively grind through the repetitive modes and that’s just not very fun. I also think the story was quite weak; I would prefer a longer story and I REALLY miss the hub worlds, those need to come back, especially with the unique character interactions. If those things were addressed in a fourth instalment and this roster returned, I would be a happy camper. It’s an enjoyable game overall and I think it’s even better upon revisiting it.
I think you make some great points that I wish i addressed in the video lol. Hub worlds are definitely an omission that I missed from the prior games. Mua3 is incredibly grindy and I think that’s the biggest complaint I see people mention. If you’re only there for the story, then I totally see your problem, since leveling is extremely slow if you’re not doing rifts/other modes.
Did Deadpool just sing "Macho Man" except with Tacos?
Yes yes he did
nolan north who also voiced Deadpool in the Deadpool game as well as Marvel Heroes reprised his role here.
They made Hela so fucking hot in this game. I mean God damn.
She was fine asf in Ragnarok too
@@madmanwebster94 Cate Blanchett will do that to a man
@@knightofberenike9633 She was Hela fine 😎
at least she’s not woke
because woke marvels wanted censor every female hot characters as a bland boyish unattractive clothes as possible but in reality we have rule34
Psylocke? Elektra? Mystique? Many people always target them when thinking of this game. XD
This was a great dive into the games functions, story, and reference. You do a great job showing the games charm without your bias to the game overshadowing flaws that you are willing to point out.
Anyone else remember what Ultron looked like in MUA1 and look at him in MUA3.
Q1
Never played that one, wasn't Ultron a complete chump in MUA 1 though?
@@The94Venom He was one of Doom's lackeys
@@Venom3254 Yeah, well I don't really think of Ultron as someone who would ever take orders from anyone, let alone an human
This got posted as soon as I was getting to work, literally been waiting all day to watch this
Haha my bad 😆 Hope it was worth the wait at least
I didn't think MUA3 was a movie tie in, but I did notice how every Marvel game either during Infinity Wars or Post Infinity Wars. A lot of the characters were chosen from the cast or modeled after the movie counterparts like in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite and I was feeling the MCU burnout hard.
MUA 3 was based on the MCU, not based on comics like MUA1 and 2 were...
@@K3nVVI really get the MCU comparisons
I got it back before release before we knew anything but no
This game and the MCU are entirely different from each other
This game was pretty comics based
Ultimate Alliance 1 & 2 will always hold a special place in my heart, as some of the earliest games I played as a kid. They will still have a distinction from UA3 to me, but now I will give UA3 a chance.
Johnny young bosch as iron fist is just CHIEFS KISS!!
After a decade of waiting, we finally got the third installment of the Marvel Ultimate Alliance series. Although the first two games take place in the same universe, the third game actually takes place in a different continuity.
Looks like a Pretty Good lookin' Game...i love how Deadpool just sings and cooks while chaos ensues
I’m going to need SquareEnix to watch this video....
Exactly
somehow I knew that I was gonna find a "Square Enix" comment here 🤣
kinda sad that they picked developers who have only made tomb raider games for the past decade, someone like platinum games could have made it into something awesome..
sry 15 years..
For real, I've always thought that this was the actual Avengers game
I also bought my Switch expressly to get this game. I love the game and having a Switch ALSO allowed me to buy Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. One of the best games I’ve ever played.
I’m happy you are satisfied with your purchase hopefully you play Metroid Dread next
I’m still so sad Beast wasn’t playable. He was involved in so much of the story!
Update from 2 years: No MUA4 :(
To be fair, I wasn't expecting a fourth game to come anytime soon
@@MegaMaster1021I’m hoping we get one eventually I’ve loved all three of the games and I personally think MUA3 is the best one
@@lestatcanadabro mua3 is trash wtf
13:18 last time he did that, a universe lost most of its X-Men and Logan vowed to never open his claws again
😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
33:25 Star-Lord has mentioned in one of Storm's bios that she and black panther are no longer together
Oh I missed that! Thanks for letting me know
Man, this video was such a cool experience. I had no clue Team Ninja had done a Marvel: Ultimate Alliance game, and as a huge fan of Ninja Gaiden and Nioh, it does not surprise me in the slightest that the gameplay in this one is very flashy and super fun.
Team Ninja did stumble a bit after Tomonobu Itagaki left the company after Ninja Gaiden 2, without him Ninja Gaiden 3 turned out awful, but after listwning to the fans' complaints they came out with Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge in 8 months time (which is incredible by the way), which addressed tons of mistakes in the game and it's now almost as good as the rest of the Ninja Gaiden games. They do seem to have found their footing recently with the Nioh franchise, and as someone who has also poured 400+ hours in the first Nioh, It's kinda normal to hear that you've also poured as much time in M:UA3, Team Ninja does have a way of making insanely replayable games and they seem to be on fire with one banger after another lately. I'm sure another M:UA is in development, their team is a workhorse in terms of output, they put out one quality game after another, it's insane really.
Ok sorry for rambling, I just wanted to say that I'm glad I stumpled opun you channel and that this video was very very cool for me to watch. Can't wait to check out everything from you channel.
Thank you for checking it out!!! I agree, I think an MUA4 is happening. At least I really hope so lol 😆
Real solid review here. I feel pretty strongly in agreement with a lot of what you say here, and I'm hoping they can follow up with improvements to the combat and ISO-8 management.
Of course, I'm also hoping we get an Ultimate Alliance 4 at all.
Thank you! Yeah hopefully an mua4 is on the way. I’m hoping for a reveal around 2022-2023, but we’ll see what happens. I’d love to see the franchise continue to grow and evolve
midnight sons got ravealed so it might be 4 instead
I love the fact that Scarlet Witch just teleports us to the freaking Dark Dimension.
I literally just started playing this game again. this game was pretty awesome although a little short. but the variety of characters is fantastic. my biggest flaw for the game is how hard it is to get alternate costumes, like why was it so hard to get all the good costumes?
Idk? Maybe since there’s so few, they wanted you to work hard for them? The shield depot isn’t too bad, but I guess that means you’ve gotta play a lot of gauntlets :/
I feel the roster from the Spider-man series are too similar.
Theory/dream blunt rotation: MUA4 will focus on the multiverse converging and we’ll see versions of characters from all 3 games fighting the cosmic big bad. Could be in line with Battleworld/ Secret Wars, but more along the lines of DC’s Crisis events.
Now that you mention it I can also see the Spiderverse storyline being in the game as a chapter or two. Showcasing even more Spider heroes (playable, costume, or NPC) interacting with other Marvel heroes. Man that’d be fun.
Or, this game is a prequel to Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite, and in the end, it was the two realities converging.
Just think about for a second, mate. Ultron already having 2 stones in his possession in MUA3, same design and everything, and infinite stones fresh in everyone's minds.
Similar artstyle, similar villains, and to top it all off, the 3rd game doesn't even take place in the same bleed'n reality as the first two.
I know it sounds stupid, but that's Marvel for you. Also, screw this game.
@@thelivingshado5 why do you day screw this game?
@@coatrak1357 The story is adolescent (graphics too), and the combat is really janky.
@@thelivingshado5 I mean if you define adolescent to having vibrant colors and stylized models then I guess. And I can't speak to the combat cus I don't own it
"Make him as hard as possible, before finishing him off." Is how I want to be right now.
I found it funny that Corvius Glave was voiced by David Kaye who you might remember as the voice of Beast Wars Megatron.
As soon as he started laughing maniacally while falling to his death, I immediately realized it was David Kaye lol
Person from two years in the future here, still no word on Ultimate Alliance 4
Sad, but I just hope it follows the original continuity instead of this reboot's continuity. Like how they did with Devil May Cry, the 5th Devil May Cry game (DmC: Devil May Cry)'s continuity only stayed in that game and they brought back the original continuity in Devil May Cry: 5.
@@theonlyethanhiroshikiI feel like it’d be a waste to do that especially when this game ended on a cliffhanger while MUA2 to my knowledge didn’t have any cliffhanger so I kinda disagree with that idea
Nothing against the story writers, I know why they chose the infinity stone, I just think they are a lazy plot. It’s easy to just place them wherever you need want to go to make the background there. Every level felt inconsequential to the whole plot besides the first and last one, like they all could take place anywhere. I also feel like they could have done a little more to make the worlds and characters feel less hollow, like for instance having special quotes for synergies. My main team had both gwen and miles and it always felt weird that they were introduced together but never acknowledged each other. I think specific characters should get special dialogues and then maybe just dialogues they have based on what teams the other characters are from so it’s easier to program, like giving a generic phrase every time someone synergies with an x men or an avenger
I understand that synergies were probably a big reason behind why each character was limited to four skills, but I miss the freedom you were given as a player to experiment with different skills and builds in the older games.
I just wish they had more RPG elements like MUA and the XML games with the stats and gear system, too.
Maybe the could have "loadouts" that affect gameplay like how MUA1's costumes did, but letting you choose the stats separately from the visuals (I hated having good stats on a costume I didn't really like)
Heck, they could re-work the ISO-8s to do those things in a bigger way and not just in a single-digit stat boost. Maybe have character-specific ISO-8s that give added effects to certain skills, like how ISO-8s worked in Avengers Alliance, the old facebook RPG.
I enjoyed playing MUA3, too, but I guess I just really want MUA1 gameplay with MUA3 visuals
Great video man! I found myself replaying this game a few weeks ago. Still pretty fun after all this time. Hope we get UA4
Thank you! I hope so too. Maybe we’ll get lucky with a reveal in like 2022-2023 🤞
YESSS FINALLY can’t wait to get home so I can watch the full
Let me know what you think!
I really enjoyed this game for what it is, but if they ever make a sequel, I hope they tone down the MCU designs by a few notches. It's kind of jarring to see Cap, Winter Soldier, Ant-Man, Black Panther and others look so much like their MCU counterparts, but then characters such as Klaw, Scarlet Witch, Loki, Ultron, etc. look much more like their comic book designs. Same goes for the different levels. The X Mansion was so much more enjoyable compared to say Wakanda. It's all a weird mix mash, and as much as I like the MCU movies and recent shows, I would rather that aesthetic stay out of other Marvel media. So much MCU inspiration is half the reason why cartoons like Avengers: Assemble are so bland and unoriginal. I really don't want Ultimate Alliance to follow that same path in the future.
This becomes a very big issue especially for lesser know characters that are getting a big revamp like blade and Ms marvel, i CANNOT see Ms marvel working with her MCU counterpart i mean they domt even have the same powers! (I'm sad that moving forward we are probably getting MCU Ms marvel with energy blasts and not stretchy Ms marvel)
@@Juanmaligno Oh, they're not giving her the stretchy arms? Isn't that the whole point of her powers, though? 0_o
@@windedwriterfilms8321 Agreed. I loved how comic book based the first Ultimate Alliance was. Every time I get a new costume in Ultimate Alliance 3 I immediately use it if their original look was based on the MCU. Iron Man for example. I would much rather play as his extremis suit look.
I really hope Marvel get out of this "phase" someday and realizes that not everything has to be based on the MCU to make money. There's a reason fans prefer the older cartoons and games way back when. They were so much more original and actually made me want to check out the comics that inspired them, very much like you said.
@@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker they are he’s confused ms.marvel with captain marvel
@@daquandrewilliams7263 Ah, okay. That makes sense. It would be weird to remove a character's power that they're always associated with.
59:59 It’s ironic & disappointing that the EMH voice actors can be reunited for MUA3 but they are yet to be reunited for EMH season 3
That’s the disappointing part lol.
With the MCU and after EMH, Marvel really doesn’t need cartoons anymore to sell their products.
It's sad to say, but when I play this game, I try to pretend that this is a continuation of EMH. It's so refreshing to hear the OG cast for at least the main four Avengers again. They should have been in Marvel's Avengers as well, but that game is a real dumpster fire.
@@FoxsDumbSeriesMaker I suppose MUA3 could work as a continuation of EMH. 👍🏻
Both have most of the same characters plus Doctor Doom is alive in EMH so it wouldn’t contradict his absence in MUA2
@@C.Johnson9714 That's really cool to know. It would be awesome to have this as an official continuation, or at least interpret it as such.
My biggest problem with Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 is that took away alot of the roleplaying aspects of the game. Sure, there weren't very many, but on your journey through MUA1 you did have some decision making aspects like the Jean and Nightcrawler fiasco and whether or not you were gonna try to save the Shi-Rai queen or the Skrull Planet. Those decisions even had consequences for the ending of the game (somewhat.) MUA2 had a lot less of that but you still had the multiple dialogue choices and you could pick which side of the civil war you were going to join which affected who won said war. MUA3 didn't have any of that which was super disappointing cause I felt like that was something that should've been expanded upon not tossed aside.
Like why not have it to where how much the team trusts Thrane is up to the player, what order you go for the infinity stones in, or if you want to go to stop the Hellfire club instead of going back to stark tower to deal with ultron and that's only the stuff i can think of that i feel like might not effect the game too much. Now that those aspects are just gone, i don't think they're ever gonna come back and get a chance to shine in this series, which makes me sad. : (
It’s our goal to Make him as hard as possible before finishing him off
-Always Nerdy (2020
Thank you for making these videos, I just relived my childhood and a good part of adulthood. Great job on everything
I don’t understand the hate for the game I still play it on my Nintendo Switch.
I don’t understand the hate either
Great analysis ,cartoony style had me thinking it was more for children but it grew on me. Love the damage numbers that pop up as well
Thank you! Yes it’s definitely worth giving a try if you’re curious about it. I still come back to it often
I think is game is great. Almost perfect and so so much fun. My biggest gripe with it honestly was that there was no EXP sharing so that the characters you weren’t using weren’t too under-leveled for later parts of the game. I know the level up cubes were meant to somewhat mitigate this issue but that should mostly be optional where at times it seems mandatory.
Or even at a slightly reduced rate, if they still want to encourage cubes, so the reserve characters would still get some exp and level up, but wouldn’t quite be at the same level.
But I’d rather they not get reduced exp so they can more easily be swapped in and out
Cyclops can survive any fall by simply blasting the ground to slow his decent. He can survive falling from a plane this way.
Wow great revival review for MUA 3 very good excellent! Everything was included well written and thought out!
Thank you! I appreciate that 😃
Great retrospective Nerdy!
I just became a big marvel fan when this game got announced, I had seen all the movies and even started collecting some comics and diving into marvel history, I also had a Switch and played it regularly. It always felt like this game was tailored just for me because I am a big Nintendo and Marvel fan and my favorite kind of games are those with warriors style gameplay like this one, you can see Team Ninja and Koei Tecmo's hand in MUA3. I love the game's story, voice acting, combat, reference to comics and music (PLEASE for the love of god SOMEBODY rip the music files for the DLC songs, I would love to hear them outside the game). Although I always feel like there's much room for improvement. The impossible task of completion and the grinding nature of this game make it sometimes very painful but I think there's enough content for it to always be enjoyable. The multiplayer is great if you have a brother or a friend that is willing to join you. I wish more people would still play online, but having someone on Discord to ask makes it much easier. In the end I love this game and I have poured hundreds of hours into it, I believe it's my second most played games after Smash Bros. Ultimate. If you are a fan of Marvel, or want to get more into it, DEFINITELY get this game and the DLC if you haven't (it's worth it)
As you can see at 1:08:37 I won't miss a chance if there's someone to play with and I would love for more and more people to fall in love with the game as much as I did.
Thank you so much for making this video and for all the points you made in it. And if you read through all of this, thank you for listening to my story, I would love to hear yours.
Thank you! Yeah it’s much more fun online with others but enjoyable overall. Really wish it had a more consistent player base.
I love the art style of this game and I hope it stays this way moving forward to be honest.
"Her name is Supergiant"
Oh so she has Mario mushroom powers
"She can control minds"
So they weren't even trying
This is one of the few switch games I regret buying, but this was a great analysis video.
Legit watched the first two this week and was just giddily keeping my eye out for this one.
exact same with me lmao
Hahaha you guys are awesome 😆 I hope you like the 3rd! Any other games you’d like to see covered?
@@alwaysnerdyretros X-men legends series (which I know you’d like to get around to) but Ultimate Spider-Man would definitely be one that could make for an interesting retrospective (considering it’s story written by Bendis, it’s interesting art style and the all around way it stands out from other Spider-Man games despite its older less polished gameplay)
@@thwipkid Two great suggestions! I know we’ll definitely do legends before long. Ultimate Spider-Man is a great one too. I’ll keep an eye out for it next time I’m at a game store
I like this game. But the unique dialoges from the first games were missing
This video popped up randomly and I didn’t shut it off and I loved every minute of it! Subbed!✨
Thank you!!! I’m glad you enjoyed it :)
Great video. Thank you for taking the time to make it. I enjoyed this game on Switch, but I'd sure love a full blown PC port w/ ultrawide support.
Thank you! I agree, it would be nice to have this game on more than just the switch
The sentinel at 1:14:46 lol.
Sentinel: "AaAAaAaaA"
So cute.
I would totally like to see MUA 4 some day
Your video has sparked my interest in playing MUA3 again after my data got deleted a couple years ago. Great video :)
My favorite aspect of this game that vastly puts it above 1 and 2 is how unique each character feels. There’s some overlap in abilities, but every character has unique attack animations. In UA 1 and 2 everyone had the same basic combos and it was always annoying, like Hawkeye doing punches just doesn’t make sense
The biggest thing I missed though it’s the little down time we got at home bases, that was always one of my favorite aspects of the old games even back to x men legends where you could just kinda vibe at the mansion.
My biggest criticism of UA3 though is the artificial grind. Every DLC update the raised the level cap, and the inherit grindy nature of the ISO system just drains me out. It takes forever to max out characters levels and skills and even longer to get decent gear for them, and it often doesn’t feel very rewarding after getting what you want anyway
Awesome work on the three retros, hits me right in my member berries
Hahaha thank you 😊
Praise be to Nintendo for giving us what we asked for and taking Time to fund and publish the game be grateful that the franchise Is back
It makes me really happy that a lot of other people had similar experiences when playing these games. Either now or as kids
Ive watched all 3 of your Ultimate alliance retrospectives recently. Really appreciate your work, I havent played 3 yet but after watching your retrospective it looks way better than I remember. I was a big fan of 1+2, i honestly forgot about 3 until this. Def checking it out soon, and Ill be digging into more of your content because the quality is top tier. Thanks!😊 also, here I am watching it 2 years after like you say. Haha
This is what Marvel Infinite should have been 😔
I've never really been interested in this series if games but this MA3 did get me interested. I love the art style, and honestly love how lively. It might just be because I'm kinda tired of realistic look
Did you play it?
Eh, some of those character designs needed to go back to the drawing board.
The realistic look in MUA 1 was 1000x better than this game, and probably 50x better than MUA 2. They need to make a game based completely on the comics, not the MCU, not an animated cartoon, not the new comic books, not any spin offs. Should be based on the comics and the storylines that the amazing stan lee thought up and created with the help of others in the 60’s-80’s. Even the mcu has messed up plenty
Still sad they didn't make Black Bolt and Medusa playable. 😭😭
I mean.. Black bolt is stupid op. A whisper split a mountain in half if i recall??
But medusa.. Yee.
during my replay of this game, I noticed that the game has a lot of artistic similarities to Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, which confused me a lot. Certain character models (Captain America, Thanos, Gamora) look nearly identical, and the story also has structural similarities. I need to know if I'm going crazy, or if there is any connection between the development of those two games.
Still manifesting X-Men Legends 3 🤞🏼