Repainting a Trashed Pinball Playfield By Hand! - Did We Ruin It?????

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  • @LyonsArcade
    @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +13

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  • @matthewmountz8777
    @matthewmountz8777 4 года назад +3

    Nice Work Joe, don't sweat the haters! I really enjoy watching your videos. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching Matthew, we appreciate it!

  • @nighttrain7743
    @nighttrain7743 4 года назад +3

    You are the Bob Ross of pinball 🐵

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Lots of happy little mistakes in this one :)

  • @CrimFerret
    @CrimFerret 4 года назад +5

    I'm old enough to remember playing electromechanical pinball machines. There was something about the sounds of the relays and scoreboard gearing that made them more fun. This looks to be one of the better ones. They were obviously not as complex as the more computerized ones that came later. Is there something you can coat the playfield with to protect it from wear? I seem to recall there was something a lot of people used for that in the old newsgroups, but I don't recall what it was.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Some people put mylar on it (like that piece we pulled off) but in the end we clearcoated it to protect it in the future.

  • @oreomeiseki5296
    @oreomeiseki5296 4 года назад +2

    You did a good job on that upper pink target and I bet you spent an exorbitant amount of time recreating that “B ADVANCE BONUS” stencil work done, but out of sheer morbid curiosity, I wonder if you could have come close finding a letter “B” sticker at a hardware store or even the place where you bought all the paint? Also, I wonder if you could have printed out “ADVANCE BONUS” in the right font, weight and size on a sheet of clear photo or sticker paper and applied it directly to the playfield, then clear coated right over them to seal them up permanently? For that matter, you could theoretically replace all of the missing or damaged font work or scoring that way? Just my 2 cents, hope I don’t upset you, love your videos, keep up the great work!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Some other people have brought up printing the lettering, I think that would work great if you got it figured out, plus it would be quicker! I'm going to look into it in the future, thanks for watching Oreo!

  • @demofilm
    @demofilm 4 года назад +8

    every game saved from the scrap heap to entertain us again, is the most important thing.
    and maybe 20 years later this is a collector edition "'specal painted by Joe!'''

  • @4ngu54110tt
    @4ngu54110tt 4 года назад +2

    Yeah...Nah, looks fine... Unless you point out the difference in the orange, it's mostly hidden by the poppers and no punter is really going to notice...just put in the dark corner of the room 😊. Sure as the guy that fixed it your gonna notice any flaws you're not 100% happy with. I'd be more worried about that 'B'...Great sympathetic restoration Ron...you did good. Cheers!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Angus, we appreciate the nice words :)

  • @mikekelly9129
    @mikekelly9129 4 года назад +4

    I think you've done a fantastic job. I don't think people actually realise the amount of time and effort goes into these machines 👍

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      It's pretty fun, and we got it a little more presentable so we're happy and the owner liked it !

  • @netropolis
    @netropolis 4 года назад +2

    Looks great... Buuuuut! Just kidding. Nailed it. That smudge technique! Exactly what I need to do for my hurricane in one spot. Thx for that.
    Loved the long play vid! Watched start to finish!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Netropolis, you're the man :)

  • @1980s-fan
    @1980s-fan 4 года назад +2

    Hell ya... you did awsome,most people would have scraped this machine. I think its well worth saving. You film it! I`m probably going to watch it ....keeps me in the mood to fix mine hehe.Oh ya before i forget when you spray your clear what do you use to cover switch contacts and light sockets etc?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Light sockets I just leave the old bulb in, switches i put a little piece of painter's tape on. Easy peasy. Thanks for watching Chris, we appreciate it!

  • @jpconn1
    @jpconn1 4 года назад +5

    Don’t beat yourself up. That playfield looks awesome! You did an amazing job on it!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Jim, that's very nice of you to say... see you on the next video!

  • @Mdrailer1
    @Mdrailer1 4 года назад +4

    Great job. I love watching you restore and rescue these old machines. Need to make a trip to your shop soon.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      Come on down Mdrailer, we're always working on something!

  • @darrenxw3495
    @darrenxw3495 4 года назад +4

    I thought the ol' pinny came up a treat,If I was the owner coming in to pick it up I'd be chuffed. Thumbs up mate!!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      Thanks Darren, yes he was very happy with it so it was cool :)

  • @saskia6750
    @saskia6750 4 года назад +2

    Dont know if you were aware,but there is a channel on here who uses a lot of your machines in snapshot format for his videos..the unique carpet is the give away ! ;) x

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      We don't mind, we have people ask us to use video footage a lot and we always agree so they probably asked us if it was o.k. before hand :) Thank you for watching out for us though Hope, you SEE ALL!

    • @saskia6750
      @saskia6750 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade anytime x

  • @brokenhalo22
    @brokenhalo22 4 года назад +5

    That looks like a really fun table to play. The "spinner" in the middle is something I haven't seen before. And it plays fast! Great job with the restoration.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      Thanks Brokenhalo, we appreciate you checking it out. I've seen that spinner on a few other ones, the companies would invent something like that then use it for a little while on different machines....

  • @brand-x7049
    @brand-x7049 4 года назад +2

    ...Just as a question: have you ever considered getting a vinyl-cutter to make lettering masks and such? Most of what you're doing is small stuff, so one of the desktop types that runs A-size sheets would probably work. I'm pretty sure they make vinyl with weak adhesive just for the purpose of being able to remove it without damaging anything afterward.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      I usually don't need one, typically we don't have to paint letters or numbers.

    • @brand-x7049
      @brand-x7049 4 года назад +1

      @@LyonsArcade Not just for lettering, though - shape masks and outlines, too. Just a thought. :)

  • @HanfordLovesLife
    @HanfordLovesLife 4 года назад +2

    I meeeeeaan.... It's not horrrrrrrible. Good job.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Lol whiners are the worrrrrst, they make me whine

  • @levelmeans-flat734
    @levelmeans-flat734 3 года назад +1

    Love your videos..can you show how you clear a playfield after touching up worn spots?

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan 4 года назад +4

    Having painted a bathroom (all one color), I am in awe that you managed to do that without masking tape

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      Yeah, everybody's telling me "you should have used masking tape!"

  • @hugeshows
    @hugeshows 4 года назад +3

    If you have decent images of missing artwork or lettering, or can make them from other places on the board where there is less damage, you can print them out (you will have to scale the image) and then using carbon paper, transfer the lines to the work surface.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      I always forget about Carbon paper, but yes that would have been a lot quicker and more accurate!

  • @Doughiemantoo
    @Doughiemantoo 4 года назад +4

    6:16 is that Homer Simpson's mouth with a light bulb for a nose?

  • @steeveedee8478
    @steeveedee8478 4 года назад +1

    If those paints are 75cents in the UK they are more like £1.50 so more than double.........
    We're being ripped off again............

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Yeah I've heard that from others in the UK, don't know why everything's more expensive over there!

  • @bobbyjack8033
    @bobbyjack8033 4 года назад +4

    This upload was like watching paint dry :)

  • @viscountalpha
    @viscountalpha 4 года назад +2

    It looks beautiful. You made it work with a reasonable budget. Not ruined at all.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks viscountalpha, we appreciate you watching!

  • @PinBallReviewerRepairs
    @PinBallReviewerRepairs 4 года назад +1

    And also at least most EM playfield have simple colors.
    I have a LaserCue that I am touching up and ugh that has so many colors I mean the majority is black but there is several different colors splashed in here and there.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Definitely! That's one of the only reasons we can do it, on the more modern stuff touchup takes a real artist, LOL

  • @wildernessgames
    @wildernessgames 4 года назад +1

    Thats the fastest EM that ive seen, its a cool game playwise too considering. Great job on the painting it looks excellent.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thnaks WildernessGames and Arcade we appreciate you watching! See you on the next one!

  • @PinBallReviewerRepairs
    @PinBallReviewerRepairs 4 года назад +1

    In all honesty having the game on while taking the plastics off is not as big of a deal as if it was a solid state.
    Basically a fuse will pop if you short something metal to a light socket with a SS you might have a blown fuse and something blow out on the board.
    EMs might take longer to get working but once working they are better in that fuses will pop and no boards to worry about boards blowing up in the head. :)

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Ain't that the truth! We were just working on an EM yesterday, the fuse would blow when the flipper button was pressed, finally figured out it was a worn spot in the flipper wire where it passed under the chime box and was shorted out to the box, blew probably 5 fuses :)

  • @thomask6193
    @thomask6193 4 года назад +2

    Looks great and seems to play well. I did notice that your "Spinner Scores 10's When Lit" is never lighting up though.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      We hadn't replaced the bulbs yet, the bulb was burnt out.

  • @edptrs9040
    @edptrs9040 4 года назад +1

    very very nice! My Hobby Lobby changed paint brand and they are $5+ per 2 ounce bottle. Should have stocked up when they were $.79...

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      That's crazy they went that high! I've actually seen these other ones on sale for $.59 before, it's almost ridiculously cheap but $5 is pretty steep!

  • @9ssdv8r
    @9ssdv8r 4 года назад +1

    Another Job well done! happy to watch great vid again. It's as calming as a Bob Ross vid!
    you say you're not an artist but you sure have the blues!
    One remark on the magic eraser you use, i guess it's the same i frequently used, white sponge like blocks, they get the swirl off pretty good but i noticed they are somewhat too abrasive for some uses and dulled the shine.
    No, you definatly did not ruin it! so another one saved!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Yes you have to be very careful with it, when you're clearcoating it though it doesn't matter too much but you can also take all the paint off down to the primer if you go too hard on it. Thanks for watching, and for the kind words :)

  • @TiltedSpyder
    @TiltedSpyder 4 года назад +1

    Impressive considering you knocked that out fairly quickly! I say that because I am in the middle my first attempt at restoring a 6M$M machine and I have already invested a significant amount of hours going through the machine and now am in the middle of tackling the playfield. I was wondering if you have had any issues with clear coat damaging the lacquer paint on those older playfields? I have done some research and many of the clears that many of the pro restore guys recommend are no longer available. I plan on shooting it with an auto clear coat. Do you or anyone know of a product that someone has used that doesn't damage the original paint? I would definitely be disappointed if the clear coat damaged the original paint. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Really enjoy and appreciate the videos! They have been a great resource and inspiration to my own attempt at bringing an old machine back from the dead for the very 1st time!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the kind words Brandon, I've never shot one with auto clear but I've heard that's the best way to do it. I'm not sure about the interaction with the older paint, the only problems I've ever had were if I didn't get all the wax off the playfield when you clear it it makes the clear not adhere and blister up...

  • @tallhawkbunk
    @tallhawkbunk 3 года назад +2

    I've learned so much watching your videos. Thank you for taking the time to film these.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      Thanks Bunk we appreciate you watching!

  • @trumpsturn4733
    @trumpsturn4733 3 года назад +1

    loved the learning that i just gained! im new to this level of refurb, so i already feel more confident!
    im going to watch a bunch more of yr vids, then post results of my work completed. then you can judge me.
    for the nay sayers - F em. lets see their work!
    xclnt xclnt vid and outcome. thank you!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      Thanks Man, we appreciate you hanging out with us!

  • @MisterMsk
    @MisterMsk 4 года назад +1

    Soo much better then it was. Great job. As someone that worked in an arcade in the late '80s/early '90s to me you did a perfect job. Get it to be presentable and playable without putting 'too much' time and money into the unit. Spend way to much money on the last 5 to 15% to get it perfect only to be dinged up in the next few months by customers (wear and tear). Perfect shape now to go into an arcade and get the heck played out of it.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks MisterMSK, we appreciate the nice words! I agree with you 100% !

  • @melanatedprose9134
    @melanatedprose9134 4 года назад +1

    The mylar coming off didn't do as much damage as I thought it wood. Good job overall on this machine, no doubt. Right, screw the haters-lol!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      I hate mylar, either you leave it on and it looks bad or you take it off and it looks bad, LOL We're working on a "Sting Ray" right now and left it on.... it looks alright....

  • @ryanmacewen511
    @ryanmacewen511 4 года назад +1

    Awesome video man. Definitely B- I mean I have some font making experience, but the center bar is way too fat. Otherwise freakin awesome man. Your paint matching is soo cool. Another boss video!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks for watching Ryan, we appreciate it!

  • @AiMR
    @AiMR 4 года назад +2

    Hey Joe, have you ever tried to print slide decals for stuff like the B ADVANCE BONUS area? That might work out good.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      I haven't tried it but I think I might, it would probably be quicker and look better if I can get the black to print dark enough!

  • @3rdaxis649
    @3rdaxis649 3 года назад +1

    Greens and blues are the hardest colors to match because our eyes can see more shades of green and blue then any other color. Starting with a good white primer is key to keep the color from changing from the oils in the wood too.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      I'm going to start doing that primer, actually I just recently did when I did some red on a game we're working on at the moment, thank you for the advice and for watching 3rdaxis!

  • @TampaTec
    @TampaTec 3 года назад +2

    Looks great, you're too humble. 👍

  • @Skeemaster
    @Skeemaster 4 года назад +1

    nice job.. "it's not horrible, buuuuuut " LOL just kidding , great work with what you had to work with. Had fun watching as usual =)

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks OneFoYo, see you on the next one!

  • @freeyourinnertube
    @freeyourinnertube 4 года назад +1

    Good job. Couldn't afford the shipping to the uk else Id be a customer

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      It is expensive, lots of gas involved! Thanks for watching, we'll see you on the next video!

  • @jodystarkey4213
    @jodystarkey4213 4 года назад +1

    It looks good for sure! I see what you mean about the yellow. Also you can add black to make a color darker white to make it lighter without changing the color hue itself. Also red, blue makes purple. yellow, blue, makes green. Yellow, red makes orange. 3 primary colors are red, blue, yellow. Say you add red to blue to make purple. The color hue will leave blue go towards red and middle of the hue of red and blue is purple the more red you add the color hue will go towards red then black or white will lighten that color or darken it. White black makes grey. I hope this doesnt sound like im being a know it all or anything like that and i dont know if you knew the color wheels or not i was only letting you know if you didnt. I say that in all honesty man.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      No you're fine, I appreciate the information, and thank you for watching!

  • @jonathanross149
    @jonathanross149 4 года назад +1

    Honestly, if you only fixed the playing surface so that it played the right way and was protected from ware, I would be satisfied. I like the look of a well loved machine.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      That's kind of how I am too. We have another game in now we're working on for a guy, we'll get it going and film it.

  • @Tripmonkey
    @Tripmonkey 4 года назад +1

    Might be worth you looking into those paint pens that are becoming quite popular. They could make doing the black outlines so much easier; Especially the circles.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      That's actually what I used to do them on this one, they make really cool acrylic paint pens that are basically the same exact stuff we're using with the brush, works great!

  • @bluetonic9538
    @bluetonic9538 4 года назад +1

    looks great, and you definitely didn't ruin it. I'm a big fan of patina so I would have probably been happy with just clear coating what was left

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Michael, that's nice of you to say. See you on the next video!

  • @joeventura1
    @joeventura1 4 года назад +1

    OMG get a fine point brush fix those black outlines, that "B" is terrible sorry brother, otherwise good attempt.

  • @MrSilverballmania
    @MrSilverballmania Год назад +1

    That has a lot of Star Pool layout with drop targets , pop bumpers and center spinner . I take my playfield to Home depot or lowes and have the colors match there machine , then buy quart of each color . The fluorescent type colors they can't do

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  Год назад

      That's a good way to do it! Thank you for watching MrSilverballmania!

  • @chefrarestones1960
    @chefrarestones1960 4 года назад +1

    Imho The difference in tone in the orange works because they're supposed to be spotlights and it looks like shadows in the beam of light. If you didn't know it was redone I don't think the average person would even notice, it looks like it was planned that way.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks chefrarestones, we appreciate your kind words, and you checking out the video, see you on the next one!

  • @douro20
    @douro20 2 года назад +1

    Does that Silver Strike Bowling have a fanless PC in it?

  • @TheDrunkenPL
    @TheDrunkenPL 4 года назад +2

    You are for sure not an artust but neither a painter. You should usw masking tape to make lines straight and sharp. Well...

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      Thank you for your complaint, I'm sorry I couldn't do it as good as you could, i'll try harder next time.
      Complaint #1,498 recorded - I can't paint, lines aren't straight or sharp

    • @Slammy555
      @Slammy555 4 года назад +1

      @@LyonsArcade I think it looks awesome for what it is, a game to be played. Some wear is expected.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Slammy, we appreciate your positivity :)

  • @fwgmills
    @fwgmills 4 года назад +2

    I enjoy the HELL out of these videos. Please keep doing it. I love watching the old mechanical pinball machines and the jukeboxes work and get fixed. I love the problem solving. :D

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Paul, that's very kind of you to say. See you on the next one!

  • @ld3640
    @ld3640 4 года назад +1

    So what if you do have a catastrophically screwed-up insert how would you fix it without destroying it 🤔

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      The inserts are glues in, you can use a heat gun to soften the glue and push the insert out, you can even replace it with a new one if you want, or if you need to raise or lower it. There's all kinds of ways to work on them, just depends on how far you want to go. You could use bondo or wood filler to fix the wood, then sand it all flat, clear coat it... or use super glue to level the insert, then sand it, etc. You could get a better look if you airbrushed it, and used masking tape or frisking tape to control where your paint goes, or even put an overlay over the part you want to repair, just depends on your skill level and how much time and money you have to spend!

  • @Hyperchaosbringer
    @Hyperchaosbringer 4 года назад +1

    I'm not sure if you have one. If you have a projector I bet you could super impose a picture of the play field over the actual field and just trace the lines.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      I think that would work great!

  • @bitteroldskunk
    @bitteroldskunk 4 года назад +2

    Leave it alone! That looks freakin awesome! I'm glad I found your channel. Makes me want to get a pinball machine.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      I'm glad you found us too shortwave, see you on the next video!

  • @Doughiemantoo
    @Doughiemantoo 4 года назад +2

    Throw it in the trash...at my house...in my game room.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +2

      Alright, I'll be by later this month with it, on the 30th!

  • @kaput450
    @kaput450 3 года назад +1

    Looks much better, would like to play it! It is hard when you have a cool game but it just isn't worth it to restore to perfect. I like the pretty good job method. The fun factor is high. How about restoring paint a score reel? I used Windex on one and killed it.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад

      I’ve carefully inked them back in with a sharpie before…

    • @kaput450
      @kaput450 3 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade what do you use to clean them? I windexed the one and then stopped

  • @billwilliams6338
    @billwilliams6338 4 года назад +1

    JOES CLASSIC VIDEO GAME
    1.) What kind of clear coat do you use?
    2.) What kind of Wax do you use?
    I have noticed to use Acrylic Paint, any reasons why you use Acrylic?
    The Step sequences are use a Magic Maker Eraser on the playfield then use an Acrylic Paint, then use a Clear coat, then use a Wax?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Hi Bill!
      We just use Krylon spray clear coat, nothing special. We use this kind of wax : amzn.to/2UP84rr and the reason we use Acrylic is because it's easier to remove if you make a mistake, and once clearcoated it's as durable as oil based. Yes your steps are correct, thank you for watching buddy!

    • @billwilliams6338
      @billwilliams6338 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade ok thanks, because some pinball repair techs say that clear coat and adding wax can ruin the playfield because you can't repaint the playfriend again after its have a clear coat and wax, i guess you can't take off the clear coat and wax onces its applied on the playfriend. Not sure if this is true or not but other youtube videos have said that not sure why.

  • @corvettebob96
    @corvettebob96 4 года назад +1

    I didn't play many pinball machines. But, I did play one at the bowling alley when I set pins for my grandmother 40 plus years ago. Well, besides the Atari pinball in the 80s at home. Wish I could remember what the machine was called. That one sounds familiar and looks similar. I vaguely remember the part from "Single, double, triple" and down looking the same. The rest looks different. That machine looks great.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Corvettebob... if you ever get time and want to figure it out, if you go to www.IPDB.org you can look at pictures of every pinball ever. If you figure out the year you played it, you could figure out it must be a game from before that year and maybe track it down.
      Thanks for watching!

    • @corvettebob96
      @corvettebob96 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade - It's been almost 40 years! They all look the same. lol. Only search criteria I can think of is EM and 1950-1981. Three results: Paddock, Showboat and Texas Ranger. Texas Ranger looks a lot like it where the ball comes out of the chute from the rail. I do remember the tilt sound. It was a loud hammer on wood! I will have to find these three and try them out I suppose.

  • @randallkipker9990
    @randallkipker9990 3 года назад +1

    Question... were you worried about the thickness of the paint? I'm thinking about trying this, pretty good with a brush and will have many more hours as its just for me and not restoring for resale. With respect to the pink/orange... since it was so little, so with someone who had time could have painted the entire playfield on these two colors.... don't you think?
    Overall man, I think it was a great restoration.... BUT....LOLOL! BTW... camera skills were fantastic Brother! Yes keep doing it, as I'm going to attack one on my own .... and your videos are GREAT!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      Yes if you have plenty of time, I think you could thin the paint (even with water) and just do tons of coats and it would be a much better result with no texture or brush strokes. And yes you could definitely repaint entire areas a slightly different color, nobody would know the difference. By the way, the reason I do these like this is because of what Clay did at PinRepair.com , check out this for instance: www.pinrepair.com/restore/gspf.htm
      He has several different ones on that site you may want to look at. Thanks for watching Randall, we'll see you on the next one!

    • @randallkipker9990
      @randallkipker9990 3 года назад

      Thanks for the link... exactly what I was thinking with the blue tape Clay used... for helping with circles and some straight lines. I completely understand your method, time is money, but say for me doing just one... it's more a hobby project. My only concern is removing everything on the underside the playfield and then being able to put it back....LOL! Strikes and Spares may be my first challenge. Again thanks for the videos and the link. Oh and NO YOU DID NOT RUIN IT... AND I BET THE CLIENT WAS VERY WELL PLEASED! I know it was a long time ago....LOLOL!

  • @joeygreenhaw8503
    @joeygreenhaw8503 4 года назад +1

    I happen to enjoy your videos. These are the games I grew up with. I wish I had one but have to settle for emulator.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching Joey, we appreciate you out there :) See you on the next one!

  • @dmtcb
    @dmtcb 4 года назад +2

    hey ..love that music playing or the video when your taking of playfield parts...THAT JAMS!!!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Very cool Elvis, you can download all of that stuff for free from www.BenSound.com !

  • @billwilliams6338
    @billwilliams6338 4 года назад +1

    JOES CLASSIC VIDEO GAMES< what kind of paint are you using? and do you use a color wheel to get the colors close to the original or how do you mix the paint colors?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      We do use a paint wheel sometimes, we just mix the paint with the tip of the brush.

    • @billwilliams6338
      @billwilliams6338 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade ok thanks

  • @yuwish6320
    @yuwish6320 2 года назад +1

    Good job on the medium blue color match. I honestly could not see where the new paint was.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  2 года назад

      Thank you Yu Wish, we're going to be painting our Flight 2000 pinball machine playfield for Christmas!

  • @robertgreen7593
    @robertgreen7593 4 года назад +2

    A projector would be great for that. Take perfect artwork and project it down over the playfield. Then you could fill in the gaps. Expensive but fun idea

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      I think that would definitely work, like you said though a little bit of a pain to pull off!

  • @SwedishEmpire1700
    @SwedishEmpire1700 4 года назад +1

    Well, first of all if people need it completely original again, tell them to go and buy a NOS playfield then LOL. You can never get it really original, but you can do the best you can atleast. So you get a THUMBS UP from me atleast, a fellow handpainter :D

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Luzur, we appreciate it man. Where you been?

    • @SwedishEmpire1700
      @SwedishEmpire1700 4 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade Mostly at work, and also renovating a Goldwings the last few weeks so ive not been much on YT

  • @oreomeiseki5296
    @oreomeiseki5296 4 года назад +1

    When you said Magic Eraser, I flinched a bit... you must have rubbed very softly because those things can strip off things like stains and such I never thought would come off. But you weren’t trying to scrub it, just clean it

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Yeah you have to be very careful, but when they're this bad, you need to get on it a little bit to literally sand some of that crap off, LOL I get your point though, you have to be very careful.

    • @oreomeiseki5296
      @oreomeiseki5296 4 года назад

      Joe's Classic Video Games Just finished your video, it turned out beautifully! Great job, thank you for everything you do!

  • @deadhomer8468
    @deadhomer8468 4 года назад +2

    You need to film when the owner comes in to pick it up after the restoration

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      I would have but unfortunately I wasn't there when he got it :) He really liked it though.

  • @peterharmer4444
    @peterharmer4444 4 года назад +1

    Light olive oil .it's dry dude

  • @andrethib
    @andrethib 4 года назад +2

    enjoyed the video, as usual.
    disclaimer: I know nothing about pinball; that said, it occurs to me that it would be pretty straightforward to create a vinyl wrap with digitally restored artwork for a pinball machine play field. that's outside of the scope of what you're doing here, but is that something that people do? or would that change the play characteristics of the game?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      People DO, do that. In some instances it's the best way to go, yes it changes how it plays but sometimes it's better to do it. We had a Xenon with a replacement overlay on it, they also make these new 'hard top' overlays that are very thick that go on some.
      One of the issues you run into is, you can't just make one from a picture because each machine has it's own holes and things for switches, so you kind of need to have a real playfield to make the art file from and to ensure everything lines up right. Then you have other issues like the inserts, etc.
      for a very famous game (8 ball, Xenon, etc.) it's a good option but unfortunately for a weird game like this nobody's ever heard of the time it would take to make a 1 off overlay nobody else would be interested in buying for their machine wouldn't be cost effective for most of the guys with the ability to create them.
      Thank you for watching Andre, we appreciate it!

    • @RBRat3
      @RBRat3 4 года назад +1

      Vinyl wrapping would be a bitch just getting the registration right without accidentally stretching it and I have no clue how you'd solve the lighting issues trying to keep the surface as flush as possible with cutouts. My other thought was coating it in a white primer and spraying it in a polyester clear coat then having it heat pressed from a sublimation print but there's an issue with matching the phosphorescent colors used here.

    • @andrethib
      @andrethib 4 года назад

      @@RBRat3 - disclaimer: I know nothing about vinyl wraps :)

  • @dougcraco8513
    @dougcraco8513 4 года назад +1

    3.6 roentgen. Not great, not terrible

  • @3x0dos
    @3x0dos 4 года назад +1

    I really enjoy your videos, thank you for sharing!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Morgan for watching, we appreciate the nice words!

  • @johncantrell614
    @johncantrell614 3 года назад +1

    In the videos of yours that I have seen so far, I have heard you say your brothers first name, but I have not run across any that I have heard you mention your first name so far, I am sure you have in some, but what is it?
    I have been an electrician for over 30 years, and while I am familiar with relays and transformers and the like, I am not too deep in the electronics portion of things, like the chips that you work on.
    But watching how you troubleshoot them, you have made me see that perhaps it might not be so difficult after all, and has inspired me to dig a little deeper into learning about them. Thanks for sharing your videos, and giving the little nudge I needed to want to up my own repair abilities up a few notches!🙂

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      That's basically what i'm trying to do, hey if I can do it anybody can do it :) Thank you for watching John, i'm Ron, my brother is Donnie and the other brother is Joe.
      see you on the next one!

    • @johncantrell614
      @johncantrell614 3 года назад

      @@LyonsArcade well nice to meet you Ron. Perhaps if the wife and I are ever up that way (once in a while talks about visiting Charlotte) we might swing over to rock hill and check your store out. Thanks again for replying, and making great repair videos! 🙂

  • @tinhache5
    @tinhache5 4 года назад +1

    Damn man. It was a nice work until you did the orange. Sorry to point that out to you

  • @estpst
    @estpst 4 года назад +2

    You are an artist!

  • @bloodreighn
    @bloodreighn 4 года назад +1

    im a bit disappointed there was no Bob Ross type commentary haha

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      I wouldn't dare compare myself to Mr. Ross, LOL

  • @roryvonbrutt7302
    @roryvonbrutt7302 2 года назад

    it's not perfect.......Come back with "certainly",
    3 stooges style‼️®™️ 👏👏

  • @AdamWutt86
    @AdamWutt86 3 года назад +1

    Good Job ;) i like that one alot. I use also acrylic colors but i have the problem that yellow doesnt cover on wooden places. What would you suggest me to do?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      You can paint it white, and then paint the yellow over the white, like it's a primer....

    • @AdamWutt86
      @AdamWutt86 3 года назад

      @@LyonsArcadegot it. Thanks alot

  • @envisionelectronics
    @envisionelectronics 4 года назад +2

    I love pinball! I am subscribed because I like to see the different types of machines being repaired and your voice and presentation skills makes it great to watch a long video.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Aaron, we appreciate you hanging out with us! See you on the next video man.

  • @mikekell9889
    @mikekell9889 4 года назад +1

    Have you tried painters tape to help with your lines?

  • @KenDebono
    @KenDebono 2 года назад

    Do you thin your paint before applying it to ensure you don't create high spots, or leave behind brush strokes. I'm interested on how you can get the paint to lay as flat as possible without an edge. IMHO thinner paint lays down better and helps hide brush marks. Thick, gloppy paint will look…thick and gloppy. Fast drying is not a positive thing for paint when you want a silky smooth finish.

  • @plaidigloo
    @plaidigloo 4 года назад +1

    I hung out at a arcade/laundry mat when I was a teenager. The owners always found extra work for me to do and I once got to touch up a Bally Strikes and Spares pinball. It didn't look as good as your job here but... Thanks for the video.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Hey at least you helped it get a little more life :) Thanks for watching Glen, we appreciate it!

  • @andrewcooper3845
    @andrewcooper3845 4 года назад +1

    A fine Job to my untrained eye!! Good Work!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Andrew, we appreciate you watching... see you on the next video!

  • @The90sDude
    @The90sDude 4 года назад +1

    Are the new pinbll games still wood or is it a plastic now

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      they're all still wood, but they have a nice really thick clearcoat on them.

  • @Merescat
    @Merescat 4 года назад +1

    Thoughts on using frog tape for straight lines?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      That would probably work pretty good!

  • @jaygremillion
    @jaygremillion 3 года назад

    Out of curiosity, if you were to be painting the back-glass what type/brand of paint would you recommened?

  • @ReallifeBambiDeerattheFarm1
    @ReallifeBambiDeerattheFarm1 4 года назад +1

    I think you did a fantastic job fixing it up, and it will bring joy to it's owner for years to come. And about the negative comments, forget them. You just keep doing you! Now I'm off to find a pinball game to play.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Go for it Trail Camera :) We appreciate the kind words and we'll see you on the next video :)

  • @stephtronix1811
    @stephtronix1811 4 года назад +1

    Great video and it looks a lot better good job man!!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Steph Tronix we appreciate you man

  • @peterharmer4444
    @peterharmer4444 4 года назад +1

    Wipe of dry with cotton wool then over paint .

  • @emprsnm9903
    @emprsnm9903 4 года назад +1

    Has anyone started making something like a full-playing-field vinyl adhesive overlays? Adhesive issues aside, one could sand down the paint smooth, apply whole decal, then top coat with some kind of hard clear coat.
    Hard part is the digital artistry in capturing/recreating the original design for reproduction. And niche market too, but it would be sharp as a tack when coated and done.
    This just came to mind since I ordered a giant vinyl wall decal (>3'), so people are printing and cutting huge decals.
    Oh, and big props on painting straight lines with no masking! Wow!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Thanks Chris, they DO make those, but like you mentioned it's very niche so they only make them for very popular machines....

  • @DjFr1nge
    @DjFr1nge 4 года назад +2

    ya done a goood job there buddy , looks great :-)

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Fr1nge, we appreciate you checking it out!

  • @99ronmarsh
    @99ronmarsh 3 года назад +1

    Great paint job. Not easy!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  3 года назад +1

      Thanks Ron, we appreciate you watching!

  • @bperkins
    @bperkins 4 года назад +1

    Fun video. Don’t listen to the haters.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Bob, we appreciate you watching!

  • @allengilby3054
    @allengilby3054 4 года назад +2

    Why such a big nappy brush?

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад +1

      Because you weren't here to tell me it was wrong Aaron. Anything good about the video?

    • @allengilby3054
      @allengilby3054 4 года назад +1

      I liked the video and subscribed... love the old classic games. That brush killed me though.

  • @1976aztec
    @1976aztec 4 года назад

    Looks good touching up a playfield isn't a easy thing to do. I have to touch up my Bally Night EM

  • @markdano75
    @markdano75 3 года назад

    Quick question, do you know what type and size screws are used to hold down the bottom apron and type and size for the metal arch at the top? Thanks and love the restore videos!

  • @RBRat3
    @RBRat3 4 года назад +1

    Dont know anything about how playfields are properly restored but if I had to guess if an airbrush being involved the whole thing needs to get stripped and recreated cause I don't think you're gonna save much when it gets pulled up from masking alone if you really want clean edges over a stencil, Sympathetic restoration is pretty accurate when a brush is involved and non-destructive to what's still there.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      That's kind of how we see it too RBRat3, if we put tape down it pulls up paint when you take the tape off, because this playfield is destroyed. It can be done, and done right, by someone with a lot more skill and a lot more time, but the cost would likely be a couple thousand dollars if they'd even be willing to work on something with this much wear all over it.
      So we spent a few hours on it, made it the best we could with our limited skill, and the owner was very happy with it so everybody won :) Thanks for watching, we really appreciate it!

  • @daveweston5158
    @daveweston5158 4 года назад +1

    Hi Ron,
    I had a thought, and wanted to share before it died of loneliness...
    This is not to disparage your abilities (heck, I wish I had a fraction of your talent), but I was wondering if you had considered, for parts of a playfield restoration, specifically lettering, or other detail graphics that you yourself are critical of, making use of something along the lines of a clear waterslide decal that you design/print yourself, apply, and clear coat over it? This way you could concentrate on the background color(s), and worry less about recreating a missing graphic. Again, just a thought, but it could potentially save you some time, and frustration.

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      People have mentioned that before it would probably work great! I haven't looked into it too much but I may need to in the future to get some of that letting stuff done. I always mention PinRepair.com which is where most of this idea of painting with acrylics comes from for me at least, and he has done some water slide decal stuff in the past.
      Thanks for watching Dave, we appreciate it!

  • @jasoncorreal8810
    @jasoncorreal8810 4 года назад +1

    The orange just looks like a shadow is being cast by the bumper so looks nature to me!

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Yeah that's one of the things you can get away with a little bit of slop and color issues here and there, nobody really notices it unless you point it out or they're experts at it :)

  • @CNKayutube
    @CNKayutube 4 года назад +1

    I swear I saw a video of Tim Arnold saying this was one of his favorite EMs. I also have one, well sort of .. star action, the actual add a ball version according to ipdb. Some very interesting info on this title worth a look at BOM from 74 is like 250$

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      I haven't figured out yet why Star Action is the add a ball, and this one is also an Add a ball... I guess this one had a kit to make it add a ball, but I don't see how it would work without being add-a-ball either!

  • @parkerslusky9562
    @parkerslusky9562 4 года назад +1

    It looks great way better then before

    • @LyonsArcade
      @LyonsArcade  4 года назад

      Thanks Parker slu, we appreciate you checking it out!