Overcoming Language Learning Obstacles
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- We all have language habits, ingrained from our native languages, or languages we speak well. How do we get outside these and develop new language habits? Jeremy discusses this with reference to Korean.
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This conversation ended so abruptly! I could have listened to so much more!
This was a very good video for me. I appreciate the input especially about the subsconscious driving the show, and how this guy utilizes it. Really interesting! I certainly hope we will see some more of this kind of content: thank you!
항상 도전하는 모습이 너무 존경스러워요. 제가 스스로 외국어를 배우기엔 너무 늦은 것은 아닐까라는 생각이 들 때 저에게 용기를 주는 분이에요. 항상 건강하시길 바라고, 저에게 항상 용기를 주셔서 감사합니다.
Let your interviewees finish their thoughts Steve. I promise we'll listen to the whole video.
My channel, my interview style.
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Understandable and I mean no disrespect when I commented this. With that said, it comes off a bit rude when you’re cutting people off mid sentence.
@@Thelinguist I love that you always stay true to yoursef !!!
I can’t wait to listen to your Arabic chat, hopefully I’ll understand some of it!
I've seen his channel and it's very interesting. I need to go back and check it out again. When he started talking about the group mentality culture it reminded me of Japan a lot. I lived in an "English" speaking dormitory (sharehouse) in Japan with about 70 people and in the large common area there were almost always two groups: a group of Japanese people and a group of foreigners (from anywhere that wasn't Japan). I got to thinking about this and at first I thought we don't have this group exclusion thing in America but then thinking about it more I think we do but it's less obvious. Like Jeremy was saying, when we speak with weird grammar and a funny accent it's like a big sign saying we're part of the out group to Koreans. I think a non asian (non-Korean) appearance also does this. Basically, I see it as a lost cause. Just accept that you're not part of the group but a kind of guest and that's just not going to change. Hopefully it won't bother you. It doesn't bother everyone, some people adapt really well.
Great interview!
Not boring to me at all. Enjoyed this clip🙂
This is a great service you offer, Jeremy! Looking through your channel just now; if your channel had existed back in 2010 when I was living in Korea I think my experience would have been much different. I was there for 2 years and have no regrets, but I never learned the language properly and found it hard to understand and accept some of the socio-cultural differences.
Hi Alanna, what would you change if you could go back in time? I’m a Korean language learner so I’d love to hear your insights!
I can't find his channel. Does it still exist?
Woow I am so excited to hear you speak Arabic
Gosh, it’s the same with the Japanese. They alienate you if you are not proficient in it. The same group mentality. I am close now to native but got so hurt when learning Japanese in Japan. Even got negative comments from my own Japanese family.
Argh. So interesting. Because native English speakers are so used that hearing English spoken in a myriad of ways, it doesn’t phase us when we hear English in an unexpected way. A polyglot friend told me that many people have never heard their language spoken by a non native speaker so it’s really strange to them. IDK. A different point of view... sure is demoralizing but we should persevere I think.
:( I think people who can play the funny outsider who barely understands anything are really rare. Most people who can't speak the language of the country they're in end up feeling very isolated or seeking out people who speak their language well. I volunteer taught ESL briefly (not in a foreign country but students who came here with no English) and it can feel kind of sad, especially the ones who get very quiet or they're hardly intelligible. A fulfilling conversation with someone requires huge competence in the language or some shared context or goal that acts as a crutch to communication.
Ofc I don't know what your level was when you had this rough time but it's certainly not unique to Asia that making friends before mastering the language is hard. Sometimes pronunciation can be a real barrier even if comprehension is good.
Hopefully with your improved ability you were able to create some meaningful friendships, Japanese are generally really gentle and kind people. It's well worth the effort to get past those rough patches.
Yes. Abso-lucking-lutely! Actually, the difference between the Western and the Oriental cultures is tremendous . I used to hang around with the Japanese for about five years and thought that I was on my "doo" that that finally would bring me up to the sense of the language and the style of their life, but after switching back to English, caused by some obstacles, I felt a sort of a great relaxation like a sort of throwing off the shackles - so easily I felt having plunged in to the Western set of mind with its openness, humour and all stuff like that. Unfortunately, the Japanese lack it (my native lingo is Russian).
Very nice interview
Steve, you often seem extremely uninterested in your guests...
why would he interview them if he wasn't interested?
@@SaraStar7373 I'm not saying he's not interested in them. But he definitely gives the other person and many viewers that feeling.
Can't argue with that. I have to agree. Maybe things would be more interesting if Steve had guests who speak languages even he doesn't know like this guy, an American English teacher in Thailand who learned Thai to a native level. Others who want to learn the language or are trying to do so right now can benefit from advice by someone who was in the same boat. Otherwise, so much for "if you want to learn a new language, you've come to the right place"
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Even Steve could be motivated himself to try learning a bit of Thai right when it hits LingQ
@@michaelrespicio5683 I'm learning Thai myself and cannot wait until they'll finally release it on LingQ.
@@ZipfelmannKD Awesome! I took a crack at it a few years ago but haven't spoken it in about 2 years (when writing this) nor used it much and have since gotten VERY rusty. I still remember a few words and would love to get back to it at some point, but for now I'm trying to juggle a few languages
It was a good lesson
Is it just me thinking that Steve sooo looks like Darcy Paquet who translated the South Korean movie “parasite”
I've heard of the idea of a "language learning parent" from MattVsJapan also. Basically a source that you listen to all the time to try and adopt their speech mannerisms.
I'm learning japanese and my reading is maybe around N3 level while my listening is maybe closer to N4 level. I tried googling Japanese language learning parent but it's not exactly a common term.
Does anyone have any suggestions on a good japanese RUclips channel or other source that I could try to use as a "language parent"?
@Trevor Fengel thanks I'll check it out
if you are n4 as your listening level then its probably best to disregard using a parent to imitate speech before you've acquired the language to a high extent. Take it from me, I am n1 in reading and listening, and I still think there is a lot more I have to go before I can start imitating speakers. This technique should be used to brush up on your speaking skills once you've got almost perfect comprehension (Mr. Matt will say something similar as well, like that jlpt n1 is really not even that advanced, which is true) so I don't think you should worry about it for now :) Immerse yourself in plenty of various content you enjoy for a couple years to be honest before you decide to brush up by imitating a language parent.
Let's Speak in Japanese Podcast with Tomo.
I can't wait to get good at Japanese so I can start euther korean or german
Maybe try to learn korean or german in japanese so that you're still practicing (i first saw this method on Lindie's channel)
@@yassinesep7246 I could do that, but I love japanese culture and I want to discover more.Also I love reading novels so I want to spend time reading novels.I've only been at japanese for 9 months
Extensive reading definitely will boost your language quite fast
@@henry12h I agree, but I find it particularly difficult in japanese because of the kanjis I don't know yet
@@henry12h I became fluent in English only after starting reading novels.I think reading novels in japanese will be very effective, also I love reading.The kanji that I don't know doesn't bother me I can look it up and then forget it, but by reading I would come across the word again and again until it sticks.Its a long road
Hey Steve, after that challenge with Arabic will you continue to study this language or will you start other? If the answer is yes, which languages will you study?
I am on a long term journey to learn 3 middle eastern language, Arabic, Persian and Turkish. Will stay with that a while before moving on to other languages.
There's an opportunity cost as an enjoyment learner. You can't expect to speak them all your languages well or retain them after leaving them for years never/barely using them. There's not much of a point investing several months or years into a language just to leave it eventually and let it get rusty while learning other ones. The longer you wait, the more opportunities you miss. If that happens often, that's on you for being stubborn and doing nothing about it
I think his opinion is not correct. Because seoul person and jeju person can communicate each other without big problem. But he says that seoul n jeju person can't communicate at all. I think it's wrong,, the reason how I know about it is I'm korean.
I want to make a dialogue with you steve in Fusha 😀
Thoughts on Mango Languages?
Try it out, but use it along side of another learning method.
Bonjour Steve, je suis intéressé par la conférence sur Zoom en arabe.
envoyez moi un email steve@lingq.com. s'il te plait.
@@Thelinguist Steve, je vous ai envoyé un mail et pas de réponse
I’m trying to learn Arabic but have the memory of a goldfish :(
Me too! Best of luck
I do too. One thing I do is sing phrases or common conversations and record them to song.
It's not memory, with massive comprehensible exposure you'll acquire the language. So keep listening and reading regularly in a daily basis that you gonna pass through that. It's important to look up the words that you don't know as well, but that won't make you acquire the language, by looking up words they get comprehensible, so if you expose yourself for them enoughly after that, you'll acquire them.
Same too except I'm learning Polish.
I'm a native Arabic speaker, and I'm available.
Please send me an email. steve@lingq.com
So jealous of English learners as it's one of the easiest languages, and you get the most benefit, more than any other language
Tell it to chinese People
And we envy you because your language is the power one English 😭
What??? English was f**** difficult....it still is.
yikes ... this guy is so boring, as far as I have noticed even Steve got bored
No need to be nasty. I found his stuff very informative. Steve can be a little impatient sometimes.
Dang dude. I really enjoyed the guest. Who vomited on your coffee?
I don't know if he was boring but i do know that he didn't really answer any of the questions that Steve asked haha
If only Steve had guests who speak languages even he doesn't know for the sake of others learning it. This guy is an English teacher in Thailand, speaks native fluent Thai. Could help those wanting to learn Thai or are trying to learn it right now, and at the same time he can get some motivation to learn right when it hits LingQ. Even if Steve wants to start it in like 2 or 3 years from now, motivations can change
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@@03e-210a I just made my self a cup of coffee and now I'm looking at your comment like 🤢