BattleTech: Why Do We Love The Piranha? - A Short Mech History

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024

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  • @Psychohistorian42
    @Psychohistorian42 Год назад +91

    "Machine guns are useless against mechs. You would need a dozen of them to do anything."
    Diamond Shark scientist: "Ah, I see." *starts taking notes*

  • @derekburge5294
    @derekburge5294 Год назад +49

    Clan Wolf: "No, you can't just sell Clan Tech to the Inner Sphere! That's illegal!"
    Clan Sea Fox: "Lol. LMAO even. Cash register go brrrrr."

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +8

      Exactly.

    • @Dang_Near_Fed_Up
      @Dang_Near_Fed_Up 11 месяцев назад +5

      Every government since the beginning of time has attempted to limit arms sales, to anyone and everyone besides themselves. Even the American government, which is supposed to be barred from interference in anything to do with arms, by the 2nd Amendment, is guilty of this.
      And every arms dealer has done all they can to circumvent the limitation on sales by those governments. This practice goes back to the days of swords and daggers and is going to continue until man has settled the stars, I have no doubt. So seeing this depicted in Battletech is no surprise, and only adds realism to the game in my opinion.

  • @SeismicWolf
    @SeismicWolf Год назад +62

    Nothing Like Piloting a Light mech and chewing on some Assault mech rear armor....

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +6

      nom nom nom...

    • @FrostyIrishBastard
      @FrostyIrishBastard Год назад

      Because we hate the PBI, and assault Boyz don't need rear armor.

    • @KG-jm1zl
      @KG-jm1zl Год назад +1

      #AssualtMechLivesMatterToo 😅

    • @alexanderwhite298
      @alexanderwhite298 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MechanicalFrogthe lore of Battletech leaves something to be desired because the battle of Tukkayid from the strategy and tactics side. No culture steeped in war like the clans would ever make such military blunders as to one not control the airspace entirely and two to split forces up to strike at two objectives at the same time if it doesn't need to happen.

    • @PeachDragon_
      @PeachDragon_ 5 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@alexanderwhite298why comment if you don't know the lore?

  • @scytheseven9173
    @scytheseven9173 Год назад +28

    It's funny how a good standard BattleMech will often outshine OmniMechs, especially ones with poor standard configurations. I suppose OmniMechs can be quite good in the ilClan era if you know your enemies will be using specialized armor (say, to bring Re-engineered Lasers against a 'Mech with hardened armor), but actual battlefield conditions are frequently far too murky to exploit that and enemies will bring a mix of equipment anyway. Outside of the ability to meet the strategic and logistical needs of a campaign, given the spare OmniPod equipment (for instance, using more ballistic weaponry on hot or vacuum environments, or swapping to energy weapons for extended periods without resupply), OmniMechs tend to have their advantages be overstated, and a well-designed BattleMech and a MechWarrior trained to make the best use of it cannot be underestimated.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +11

      The differences are definitely more subtle when discussing OmniMech vs. 2nd Line Clan. Often the 2nd liners are more specialized and can shine in their element.

    • @Nostroman_Praetor
      @Nostroman_Praetor 15 дней назад +1

      From what I understand about omni-mechs, they work in a war with stable supply lines.
      Take a guess how supply lines have been since The Amaris civil war?

  • @TehSquare
    @TehSquare Год назад +29

    The Piranha: The only mech that can reasonably burn through a ton of MG ammo in a reasonable amount of time.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +8

      Or die trying...

    • @HeadHunterSix
      @HeadHunterSix Год назад +4

      I kind of prefer the way the MGs work in the HBS video game. An MG takes 5 shots when fired, and burns through 5 rounds of ammo. So if you had 4 MGs firing every turn, a ton of ammo would last you 10 rounds. Now that MG ammo is available in half-ton lots, it's more sensible.

  • @uroghai3439
    @uroghai3439 Год назад +14

    "We're gonna need some more Falcons." I guess the blast rattled her skull enough for her to start using contractions.

  • @Ironclockwork
    @Ironclockwork Год назад +12

    "So, how many MGs do you want in this bad boy?"
    "Yes."

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +8

      "I would like all the machine guns. Now I know you might have heard, he wants a lot of machine guns, but I meant what I said. I want all the machine guns."

    • @HeadHunterSix
      @HeadHunterSix Год назад +3

      @@MechanicalFrog I regret that I can only give this comment one like. Is Swanson a bloodname among the Clans?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +2

      @@HeadHunterSix If not, it should be.

  • @bababo0oey297
    @bababo0oey297 11 месяцев назад +7

    I have 15 Piranhas I use in Alpha Strike as a dedicated striker Trinary. Its always a hoot breaking from cover and sending the little bastards to death or glory.

  • @Xynar
    @Xynar Год назад +15

    My best and only Piranha story comes from a Mechwarrior game I was playing in. One player character was doing their Trial of Position in a Hellbringer Prime. The other players were lined up as opponents. I got to go first with my Piranha 1. Let's just say, if I got one more round of fighting in, he would have lost his trial. The Piranha just chewed through the limited armor of the Hellbringer and speed was my armor. But luck doesn't hold out. He only needed a few hits to take my Mech out so he was able to make it to the second opponent. I was so close to making his character lose the Trial.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +3

      A Hellbringer in a trial... Putting a lot of faith into getting the kill in those first few rounds...

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@MechanicalFrogThat's very clanlike. They're sprinters.

  • @spectre111
    @spectre111 Год назад +8

    I think the Piranha is like the Blackjack; a police mech intended to deal with enemies are lightly armed but mobile and numerous, like pirates and local insurgents. The mech is lightly armed because its not meant to fight anything bigger than an APC or maybe a Wasp.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +2

      Quite useful in a variety of fun situations... :D

  • @michaelkimberling7307
    @michaelkimberling7307 Год назад +8

    6:00 apparently her manners got knocked around in that explosion she used a contraction.

  • @chrislewis8831
    @chrislewis8831 Год назад +23

    For the first handful of moments, I forgot I was watching a mech focused video and was thinking it was more New Explorer Corps. I was like, "wait, what, we were in the peripher.... Oh, mech video, damn." LOL. I think you are doing great, and this is a good mech focused video! Keep up the good work my friend.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +2

      Thanks a lot! This was a fun diversion from the usual nonsense.

  • @theatagamer90
    @theatagamer90 Год назад +10

    Run this thing in MWO with a friend. Both just running around the backlines causing havoc. He'd get the enemy to turn and Id just pop the back armor. Then theyd turn towards me and he'd do the same thing. Glorious.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +2

      It can definitely mix things up and ruin someone's match.

  • @HeadHunterSix
    @HeadHunterSix Год назад +5

    I was delighted when the Piranha was introduced - a guy in my BT group in the late '80s had taken the LRM-20s out of an Archer and put an MG in each of the vacant missile tubes. You can imagine how he could shred anything within 90 meters.
    You can also imagine the amount of ammo required to feed 40 MGs per turn. An unfortunate crit would leave barely enough to salvage in a lunch box.
    Interesting to hear Leskovic mentioned as I am currently fighting against the Jade Falcon there in my HBS playthrough (using the Battletech Extended Commander's Edition mod).

  • @RattlerNxt
    @RattlerNxt Год назад +9

    The Piranha is one of my favorite mechs. Speed and purity of purpose.

  • @wraith7989
    @wraith7989 Год назад +6

    The Piranha and the Firestarter: two mechs designed only to commit war crimes.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +4

      "It's only a war crime if you lose," -Malvina Hazen

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Год назад

      @@MechanicalFrog And mulching infantry with machine guns isn't even a war crime! So have fun and fire away!

    • @HeadHunterSix
      @HeadHunterSix Год назад +1

      /Jenner would like to know your location. I'm sure it still holds the record.

  • @ambientlight3876
    @ambientlight3876 5 месяцев назад +4

    How did I miss this video???
    The Pirahanna is an example of why light mechs should NOT be underestimated.

  • @weldonwin
    @weldonwin Год назад +4

    When the Clans went just slightly Ork and demanded *MOAR DAKKA!!!*

  • @keeganm139
    @keeganm139 3 месяца назад +3

    I always figured Machine Gun Arrays were made to speed up play; instead of making 4 to-hit rolls and 4 location rolls you make 1 to-hit roll, a cluster table roll, and 1 location hit roll.

  • @ThelemicPotter
    @ThelemicPotter Год назад +19

    Your videos just get better and better. The whole evolution of BattleTech video content has been incredible and you're a pillar of that growth. I really need to get to your New Explorer Corps soon.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +3

      Thank you. I really want to keep pushing forward with quality for the sake of the channel and the BT community.

  • @NemFX
    @NemFX Год назад +7

    Because DAKKA. I have two of them, they're great. Everyone always worries about my Mad Cat or Masakari, they ignore the pair of Piranhas that have been doing all the work. Sure, keep hammering my Masakari that almost never hits anything. Whoops there goes your mech.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +2

      You definitely can't ignore them, that's for sure.

  • @DairXV
    @DairXV Год назад +3

    I had a Pirrahna take out an Atlas. Two turns and every time the Pirrahna was in the Atlas's rear. All those machine guns even caused enough Crit damage to take out the fusion engine. My opponent was, well, mad and swore to never play outside 3025 ever again. Sadly the Pirrahna died the next turn as what was left of two lances focused fire on it.

  • @sharlin648
    @sharlin648 Год назад +6

    Great video :) The Piranha is an amazing and mean little SOB. And if you get the chance to go hooting and braying across the battlefield to zip around an assault or Heavy ''Mech's back at point blank range, as Palpy said. Dew it!

  • @harvestblades
    @harvestblades Год назад +6

    Thanks for covering the variants & rules especially the MG array. I've never been a fan of the MG in Classic or MW (I love them IRL!), due to extremely limited range, ammo dependency, & using tonnage to carry around something that seemingly is more likely to do more damage to my mech than my opponent. However on a zippy little guy like the Piranha I am realizing how incredibly nasty they can be especially against Infantry, vehicles or the rear armor of even those big boys. I was a bit shocked to see a new vid today & especially for it being on a mech. It was a pleasant surprise!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      I was fuzzy on the MG Array anyway, so it was good to sit down and make sure the rules said what I thought they did.

  • @scytheseven9173
    @scytheseven9173 Год назад +5

    Thanks for the rules talk about machine gun arrays!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +2

      It seems to be a confusing subject, so maybe it can help.

  • @Bolththrower
    @Bolththrower Год назад +10

    Excellent work. Placing the short story in front grounds the video well with the info content that's then is presented. This was a pleasure to listen to.

  • @KorrothDyahwanre
    @KorrothDyahwanre 11 месяцев назад +1

    I have a few of these. My friends laughed at them till I used them against them in a campaign where they were playing Jade Falcon and the Steel Vipers had gotten their hands on some and were using them in trails of possession for the groups supplies. The PC's won the day but not before I mauled a War Hawk, Summoner, and a Storm Crow. Only the War Hawk managed to carry the day for them.

  • @franksmedley7372
    @franksmedley7372 Год назад +2

    Heya Frog.
    Oh, the Piranha... How I HATED that Mech during the Clan Invasion period, when the Clans were introduced into Battletech. Passing on, to a slightly later period... post 3050, my special Locust variant, with the ER Lrg Laser, was fast enough to keep up with Piranhas, and had a big enough weapon to do deadly damage with a single hit. Up to that point, my much slower, and shorter ranged units, all using Inner Sphere 'standard' tech, took some serious beatings from Clan Tech.
    Post 3055 and 3067 though, things were not so 'lopsided' in the Clan's favor, and I was able to use the newer available tech to decent results against even Clan Mechs... including Piranhas. And once Sea Fox started selling Piranhas, I just about moved heaven and earth to gain as many as I could afford to add to my formations.
    Although requiring 'ammo' for the MGs, it was a very good unit, which only got better with the inclusion of Machine Gun Arrays. Deep penetration raids are the 'meat and potatoes' of my lightest units, and this includes the Piranha. When sending such forces into an Enemy's rear areas, I would also hazard a few trucks to carry ammo for the MGs, which would be hidden away in caves, or under camo-tarps, and when able to do so, would roll out to meet the Mechs to replace their MG ammo expenditures and then hide again until needed.
    In a few scenarios I played as part of a campaign, I was able to loot enough MG ammo to keep my Piranhas well supplied, and only had to hazard the occasional Repair Vehicle to replace Armor damage, and the rare weapon loss (either Lasers, or MGs, as needed).
    I discovered that dropping several Leopards behind Enemy lines, only one of which held a raiding group, to be a nice way to 'throw off' Enemy intentions of discovering my landed forces... at least until they were able to put a good distance between the landing site and operations area. As for the other drop ships, one would carry nothing but Battle Armored Infantry, and the other would carry the Mobile Repair Unit, and a security force of tanks and infantry.
    Believe me, it was hilarious to ambush an Enemy unit hunting for my Light Mechs with Battle Armored units, or raid their over-night camps with stealth trained 'commando' infantry units. Killing as many Pilots as possible before disengaging.
    One series of such 'mini' scenarios had my Lights raiding, only to run into the hunters, blaze past them at high speed, and lead them into difficult terrain... only to have the Enemy ambushed by Battle Armor, and then their camp, later, hit by night attacks by stealth commando infantry.
    One Player got so pissed off at me, he threw his dice at me, called me a 'cheater', and stomped off in a snit. It took quite a bit of persuasion from me in order to NOT have him 'banned' from the club for several months. The player returned to playing a few weeks later, apologizing for his harsh words and actions, and thanking me for saving his membership in the club.
    This same player, later on in the campaign, ran a few missions for us players, and he 'hired' me for both Recon, and 'Hunt and Kill' missions. (Unlike most Players, I had reasons for being able to get 'intel' back to my Unit. Things like, oh, remember that Mobile Repair Unit? And it's 'defenders'??? Well, instead of 'just' a command vehicle of some sort, I had a dedicated Command Vehicle that was as armored armed as best I could get, as well as mounting Satt-Tac Comms Systems. This enabled me to be able to send data up to orbit, where a loitering Drop Ship would receive the data, and pass it on as needed. Satt-Tac was a system we 'invented', that used a pair of Small Lasers that could be pointed upwards and track things in orbit. Flickering them on and off in coded sequences, basically gave me 'Morse' code laser comms).
    All in all, the Piranha is a decent Mech, and several of the variants can be very helpful for raiding, deep penetration raids, and even 'hunt and kill' missions on Light Mechs. Enough Piranhas can be a Serious threat, even to Medium and Heavy Mechs, if the Piranha 'swarm' can get that unit pried away from its group. Been there, done that too.

  • @wheturangi
    @wheturangi Год назад +5

    How do I love thee? Let me show you with my 12 MGs!
    Lets make a MG mech and go crazy! A good decent design, only failing is the single heat sinks, but I like that feature. It shows you this this is a second line mech. It's dangerous, but like most lights it cant take a hit. Recommend you thunder it and get it to slow down. I dont mind facing it, but my group only allow second line mechs to be fielded together. No Omnis and second liners together.
    Great video MF. Giving some love to the most dangerous light out there IMHO.

    • @alexhurlbut
      @alexhurlbut Год назад +2

      The reason it used SHS is because the MGs generate zero heat unless you use the burstfire rule on them.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +2

      Yeah the Single Heatsinks are a pain but I understand why they're needed for balance. Being able to fire both of the ER Medium lasers + 12 machine guns + the ER Sm Laser every turn would be insane.

    • @alexhurlbut
      @alexhurlbut Год назад +2

      @@MechanicalFrog and you're only generating 12 heats just from the lasers. So you're using the ER Mlasers until you get close enough to use the MGs and ER Small, then you don't fire the Second Er Mlaser to stay cool while at that point blank range.

  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 Год назад +1

    That opening story is a pretty apt summary of how the Clans dominated yet lost. Their warriors and mechs are amazing, but they can't comprehend how to face total war. The Lyrans burned countless factories to deny the Dragons, so why would the Falcons get a roost or the Sharks a Harbor intact?
    "Welcome to the Inner Sphere F_cko!"

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад

      This event is canon. It was determined that the explosion was likely accidental.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Год назад

      ​@@MechanicalFrogoh.
      Edit: I guess Lyran Scale applies to industrial malfunctions and volatile storage too.

  • @WeOnlyEatSoup
    @WeOnlyEatSoup Год назад +3

    This mech is one of the reasons I play Clan Diamond Shark 🦈

  • @jasonmorello1374
    @jasonmorello1374 4 месяца назад +1

    One thing about battletech, people don't get a good feel on the speeds some of these have. An abrams tank, one of the biggest machines deployed now, is 60+ tons and does a top speed of 45 MPH. Sure, this guy is 20 tons, but twice as fast in standard, almost triple with that supercharger. that much sheer mass moving at speeds like that going to do work if it were a real world machine. The one thing that could make a 'mech work as a two legged machine, it that kind of speed with better start/stop and turning than anything else in the weight class. I don't know if it could be realized, but that is part of why 'mechs have these massive gyros. weighted spin stability is definitely a force to consider.

  • @Based_Lord_Humongous
    @Based_Lord_Humongous Год назад +5

    Two things people forget about the Piranha. 1) They in the Amazon! 2) not all of them have double heat sinks. Just because you're in a Clan mech don't mean you got them good good double doubles.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +3

      Good times had by almost all.

    • @Based_Lord_Humongous
      @Based_Lord_Humongous Год назад +1

      @@MechanicalFrog LMAO, almost is the operative word there....I could only fire 6 of my MGs next turn! Such is life

    • @HeadHunterSix
      @HeadHunterSix Год назад +1

      When your primary weapon array generates no heat, who needs doubles? As long as you fire the ER mediums in volley mode (2 on one turn and only one on the next), you'll never even generate enough heat to slow down.

    • @DIEGhostfish
      @DIEGhostfish 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@HeadHunterSixHaving to treat mediums like PPCs just sits wrong with me.

  • @Brigand231
    @Brigand231 Год назад +4

    Piranhas, much like Vixens (Incubi) are wonderful backshooting units. Great for anti-infantry too, of course. All of this, you covered nicely.

  • @marsar1775
    @marsar1775 Год назад +5

    this clan mech is speaking my language! small, fast, good stamina, and lots of fun guns
    ill need to seek out the next sea fox expo...

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      See if you can get them to agree to a 3 for 2 deal.

    • @marsar1775
      @marsar1775 Год назад +2

      @@MechanicalFrog i happen to know a sea fox merchantwoman(friend plays sea fox), so who knows, maybe i can get a discount with a trade

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      @@marsar1775 Quite likely.

  • @Yacovo
    @Yacovo Год назад +2

    Short Mech, I get it! Who is ready for a Golden BB? Thanks for the video.

  • @calebharris292
    @calebharris292 6 месяцев назад

    The modern design just makes me think about a Cyclops going "don't talk to me or my son ever again"

  • @meshuggahshirt
    @meshuggahshirt 9 месяцев назад +1

    "You have one thousand kilograms of ammunition, and by the Founder you are going to *use* them."

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 месяцев назад

      Why have it, if you're not going to use it?

    • @meshuggahshirt
      @meshuggahshirt 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@MechanicalFrog The struggle of every MG-equipped MechWarrior since at least the Stinger

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 месяцев назад

      Indeed...

  • @sebastiang.5032
    @sebastiang.5032 Год назад +3

    Amazing! I've just painted a Piranha for my Clan Sea Fox Spina Khanate force! 🦊👍

  • @XetaStation
    @XetaStation Год назад +7

    Finally got the “Battletech: A Game of Armored Combat” box after it was stocked at my local game store. What luck it is to find this channel not even a week later! Subbed

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      Thanks so much! Welcome to the fray, mechwarrior!

  • @KillerOrca
    @KillerOrca 8 месяцев назад +1

    The sheer amount of casings that come out of this thing can cause small fires if they hit flammable material

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  8 месяцев назад

      It may have to turn in is honorary forest fire preventer badge to Ranger Rick.

  • @elijahsnow3119
    @elijahsnow3119 11 месяцев назад +3

    Amusingly enough i converted my Firestarter in HBS Battletech to a Piranha without even knowing what a Piranha was. Same design philosophy. Two lasers, six machine guns, more armor, less speed.
    Killed a Victor with it. Ammo explosions are a real bitch.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  11 месяцев назад +1

      Sounds like a fun time, for the Firestarter mechwarrior...

    • @elijahsnow3119
      @elijahsnow3119 11 месяцев назад

      @@MechanicalFrog oh yes. Borrowed the name FHS-9LS “Leadspitter” from the Australian RUclipsr @Magstv
      It and the Piranha are the argument against the Steiner Scout Squad. Lost an arm, killed an assault mech. Fair trade.

  • @Dang_Near_Fed_Up
    @Dang_Near_Fed_Up 11 месяцев назад +1

    These are an overlooked, and under feared, backstabber that can bring down much larger mechs if not dealt with before they can get into your backfield. They serve well as anti-artillery / LRM support, due to their speed as well.
    I personally am not a fan of MG's on Mechs, but this odd machine serves to prove that they do work, when used properly.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  11 месяцев назад +1

      Dangerous if ignored, or in great numbers...

  • @robertreid9256
    @robertreid9256 9 месяцев назад +1

    our group uses miniature rules, all ranges are X3, and we use the optional rule each machine gun fires 1-6 bullets, giving the potential damage of 72 points of damage, but on the down side its also 1 heat per shot, which could be very bad.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  9 месяцев назад

      Oh wow. I'm going to have to ponder this house rule.

    • @robertreid9256
      @robertreid9256 9 месяцев назад +1

      the Macinegun rule is in the Battletech Manuel on page 101, and Miniature rules are if your not using the maps, one you play this way you will never go back. Neither are house rules just optional rules.

  • @STzim
    @STzim Год назад +2

    Shark Merchant: Nobody uses MG in their trials. Most lose them when making any variant. They do not want any, even for free. Now with a weapon so Cheap I could not resist buying a few. When they heared someone buying them they sold me in bulk. I think this is not a fluke, now has someone an idea what can we do with a mountain of MG?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад

      Using it in trials would be a huge gamble. Very little margin for error.

  • @JosephMitchell-zw3db
    @JosephMitchell-zw3db 3 месяца назад +1

    Had fun with it in a old Solaris tournament it did well but a lucky shot from ac20 finished me dam king crab

  • @ZombieSexmachine
    @ZombieSexmachine Год назад +3

    "And now angry ticks fly out of my nipples" - Rejected by Don Hertzfeldt

  • @johnmoore8599
    @johnmoore8599 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's a wonderful glass cannon, even more glassy than any Hellbringer, and more dangerous.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 месяцев назад

      Wouldn't want to run into either of them.

    • @johnmoore8599
      @johnmoore8599 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@MechanicalFrog Streak missiles work wonders on Piranhas. A dual heavy gauss salvo to the CT ends things pretty quickly too. So, it's not all roses.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 месяцев назад

      True enough.

  • @spencerjones841
    @spencerjones841 11 месяцев назад +1

    When you see a piranha call in your CAS and artillery strike to vaporize that square grid. Then again that applies for all clanner mechs

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  11 месяцев назад

      The Piranha does not recognize your artillery strike. It does what it wants.

    • @spencerjones841
      @spencerjones841 11 месяцев назад +1

      well in that case I use it to deploy FASCAM galore. The one true weakness of speedy mechs@@MechanicalFrog

  • @mhyzon1
    @mhyzon1 Год назад +1

    Ever since the original Paladin from the S7 sourcebook, I’ve always lived the idea of an MG boat mech.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад

      And now everyone can have one! Joyous day...

  • @ericloranger7462
    @ericloranger7462 Год назад +3

    First time I used one, it was just to fill up some BV. After that, the li'l fucker is a mainstay on my lists.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад

      It's definitely not a light mech you can ignore.

    • @ericloranger7462
      @ericloranger7462 Год назад +3

      @@MechanicalFrog on that first game, I was thinking " why call it piranha?" Then when the shooting phase came up and I really looked at the sheet I just went. " yup, that scans"

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      @@ericloranger7462 Yeppers.

  • @matagy
    @matagy 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hands down one of the most fun mechs I field. Not best, not favourite, and its success rate is a coinflip, but its always funny

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  8 месяцев назад +1

      The fun factor must always be considered.

  • @malusignatius
    @malusignatius Год назад +2

    The Piranha has one thing to say:
    BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT.

  • @franksmedley8619
    @franksmedley8619 8 месяцев назад +1

    Hello Frog.
    Oh, how I hated the Piranha when the Clans were introduced into the game. At that time, my forces were more combined arms and my Infantry paid for my hard lessons in dealing with Piranhas on the battlefield.
    In the ILKhan era, I kind of like the Piranha-5, in addition to the 'standard' version. And in the IlKhan era, Piranhas are available to buy from Sea Fox. Once they became available for the Inner Sphere, I made sure to get as many as I could.
    I mostly used them to hunt down Light Mechs, and deal with pesky enemy Infantry. The Piranha-5 just made things even better. Although I can see a use for the Piranha-3, I have not used any so far in my games. The Piranha-3 should be able to deal with Elementals fairly easily, although it would not destroy a full star of them in one go. But, even so, it should be able to swoop down and deal wth at least a few of the suits to aid a lance member, should they be beset with Elemental madness.
    As a side note: I once played in a game where NO Mechs were allowed. Only Infantry, Battlesuits, Tanks, and Aircraft. The resulting battle took far longer to conclude, and Elementals were the 'powerhouse' units on the table, even though they were relatively 'slow' in movement compared to other units, like tanks. To speed things up, each player fielded two Light Mechs towards the end of the battle, and some 9 hours of playing time later. I chose a pair of 'standard' Piranhas, and pretty much swept the field of Infantry, and scored several 'kills' on damaged tanks. Fielding the Piranhas allowed me to devote my remaining tanks to fire upon Elementals, making the Piranhas more survivable.
    I have to say that running up to a star of Elementals in a Piranha and blazing away with all those MGs was satisfying, once the tank threat was reduced. Other forms of Infantry just 'vaporized' under the withering fire of my Piranha's MG storm of fire.
    Ah, good memories.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  8 месяцев назад

      Nine hours... I wish I had the energy to do anything for 9 hours these days.

    • @franksmedley8619
      @franksmedley8619 8 месяцев назад

      @@MechanicalFrog I am in my 60s now, but back then? I was mid 30s. I had a lot more energy than I do these days.

  • @jasonhenninger8220
    @jasonhenninger8220 10 месяцев назад +1

    Non-ammo dependent, mostly self-sufficient. From the V, drop to 160XL, 3.5t Ferro, Lt ActiveProbe, targeting computer, 2 Imp Hvy Med Lasers, 5 ER Sm Lasers,

  • @CaptainBanjo-fw4fq
    @CaptainBanjo-fw4fq Год назад +3

    I love me my light mechs. This has got to be among the most vicious of killers…

  • @asimplenobody7797
    @asimplenobody7797 Год назад +3

    Ah, the Piranha. When you absolutely must kill an entire infantry company every pull of the trigger

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      Just as the old woman at the carnival predicted.

    • @asimplenobody7797
      @asimplenobody7797 Год назад +2

      @@MechanicalFrog Never figured you for a Nova Cat, Frog

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +2

      @@asimplenobody7797 Settle down, meow.

  • @digitaldynamic3476
    @digitaldynamic3476 5 месяцев назад +1

    I typically abhor ammo reliant Mechs generally preferring a solid energy load out but this lil monster might be just what the “Good” Doctor ordered to remedy pesky infantry or maybe even Savannah Masters 🤔 Thanks for the inspiration 😁 Gunna have to give it a shot ❤

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  5 месяцев назад +1

      A Piranha that survives long enough to run out of ammo is a hero.

  • @Dreadwolf3155
    @Dreadwolf3155 10 месяцев назад +1

    love the why do we love series

  • @fkntwizted
    @fkntwizted Год назад +1

    Yeah, my friends, when I play with that mech, take notice when I bring a couple. Let's just say after I brought down a dire wolf in 2 turns, they don't laugh anymore at the 20-tonner.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      It can absolutely be a game changer. However, I just ran a MegaMek game and things did NOT go well... I was a bit too bold with them.

    • @fkntwizted
      @fkntwizted Год назад +1

      @MechanicalFrog swarm and make sure it isn't the only mech that the enemy has to decide to fire at. I had this issue yesterday when my friend decided to run his stinger in to tag a Turkina; let's say, between my teammate Turkina and my Ice Ferret J, it didn't last long.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      @@fkntwizted yep yep.

  • @anotherdadjoke
    @anotherdadjoke Год назад +2

    This mech has been a walking (running) war crime against my friends and their infantry. I take one in my star against a pair of mixed lances and a platoon or 2 of unarmoured infantry. The infantry rarely survives past turn 5.

  • @memph1ston
    @memph1ston 5 месяцев назад +1

    Do you think Diamond Sharks ever make "SaKahn deez nutz" jokes?

  • @leonmac306
    @leonmac306 Год назад +1

    The same energy as I put 8 SP Lasers on a Firestarter Hohohohohohoho

  • @ian5395
    @ian5395 Год назад +1

    I NEEEEED this in mw5 with some 6ap/2he ammo splits

    • @ian5395
      @ian5395 Год назад +1

      Ope
      And whatever for the other guns I forgot...

  • @jordansimpkins8784
    @jordansimpkins8784 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video

  • @darkwave8892
    @darkwave8892 Месяц назад +1

    FYI this video isn't in the "why do we love" Playlist.

  • @nukenuked5749
    @nukenuked5749 Год назад +1

    top video mate

  • @omegavulture8379
    @omegavulture8379 Год назад +2

    Are there better mechs? Yes. Are there better light mechs? Also yes. At the end of my mechwarrior career will they find me in the burning wreckage of my silly dakka fish with my fist elbow deep in one of those mechs engines? Also yes.

  • @toxofoz6233
    @toxofoz6233 6 месяцев назад +1

    If your Piranha doesn't have a red stripe and an orc face decal on it you're doing it wrong. More DAKKA!!

  • @fherot8200
    @fherot8200 3 месяца назад +1

    That is a sweet Piranha thumbnail, I don’t think I’ve seen that art before. Where is it from?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  3 месяца назад

      The Piranha in the video thumbnail is a photo of a 28mm scale Piranha I 3D printed.

    • @fherot8200
      @fherot8200 3 месяца назад

      Wow that almost looks like a render. Awesome

  • @roguerifter9724
    @roguerifter9724 5 месяцев назад

    I like the Piranha 2 and 3 but would tweak the light weapon array to get a couple of tons worth of jump jets. Probably remove the ER Small Laser and some of the Microlasers for the 2. half the Microlasers, one Micro Pulse Laser and the ER small Laser for jump jets

  • @kanyewest6539
    @kanyewest6539 Год назад +1

    ive got a BTA campaign going right now and my pirhanha1/pilot has like 45mech kills and as many vic kills in maybe 180 deployments.
    for the tonnage its by FAR the hardest hitter ive got. i run pretty heavy but my scouts are an ostscout ,raven with the fancy missle ecm,and the pirhana. i can usually get a kill with 2x backshots and maintain 8-12 evasion with cover. the raven has its -6missle to hit buff so they are essentially untouched every mission.

    • @gregdomenico1891
      @gregdomenico1891 Год назад +2

      I paired mine up with a Owens with two MRM 10's W/Apollo Ammo and a Drillson Hover tank. All 3 made life hell for just about everything. Sadly, I lost it a couple of mission's ago to some Sanctuary mech with a Scatter gun 20.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      Sounds like quite the mechwarrior!

    • @kanyewest6539
      @kanyewest6539 Год назад

      @@gregdomenico1891 before i got the flashpoint raven i was also running the owens. owens did more dps but was slower, and the -6 missle ecm is probably the best tech in the whole game imo. you can blanket your lance on a hill late game too. just have your assualts camp and fire. more or less immune to missle dmg without a narc or a tag, which wont happen if you prioritize enemy scouts.
      i ran a pegasus instead of the drillson, but the ostscout9c i believe has the sensor quirk that lowers enemy acc, combined with angelecm it is imo the best late game scout team.
      i will sometimes send the ostscout/pir out together on the wide flank hunting/killing enemy scouts, and push the raven and an adarga pdv slightly ahead of the main formation. this prevents LRM swarms.
      my other scout i will use in my diff deployment is a single starleague spider with pulses/tag, stealth/guardian and jj's. also has great survivability with the right pilot.

    • @kanyewest6539
      @kanyewest6539 Год назад

      @@gregdomenico1891 the scatter guns are a nightmare. if you have sharmat, his custom mech akulakhan can be armor maxxed, give him some masc,harjel and a binary las in his gun. just have him run down their throats he can tank the hits.
      thats what i did. sanctuary tech is very interesting tho. i run the medium haywires on a few of my mechs.

    • @gregdomenico1891
      @gregdomenico1891 Год назад

      @@kanyewest6539 I'm in the late game now, up near the occupation zone(Ghost Bear/Combine). It's gotten so bad, with all of the damn Battle Armor and Clan version Assualt Tanks, that running lights and mediums( no matter how well equiped) is a death sentence for those mechs. I'm pretty much at the need as much fire power as possible phase.
      I do still have a scout, it's just one you wouldn't consider as one. I took a Black Python, gave it a bigger engine, Supercharger, and all the fun Clan electronics. Packed it with 2 IS Plasma Cannons(weigh more then the Clan version, but do more damage) and as many x pulse/ pulse lasers as i could fit. Great little scout, can take damage, and is hell on BA and tanks.

  • @ghoulbuster1
    @ghoulbuster1 Год назад +1

    Hear me out.
    Piranha III with 15 micro pulse lasers.

  • @thegunslinger8806
    @thegunslinger8806 Год назад +2

    Sea fox is the cooler name but I gotta admit despite the underhanded way the animal was introduced into the habitat, Diamond Shark is pretty boss sounding.
    Also, this is me and frog when we make the time traveling Piranha:
    Me: what's gonna happen when we reach 93 Mph froggy?
    Frog: If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 93 miles per hour... you're gonna see some serious shit. 🐸 😎

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      vroom vroom!

    • @thegunslinger8806
      @thegunslinger8806 Год назад +1

      @@MechanicalFrog if you get this comment it means I couldn't get the Piranha up to 93 mph and I'm stuck in an alternate reality with something called a "Gundam" chasing me, whatever that may be, if found please get the back up Piranha and save my silly Free world's league ass.
      P.S. I ate all the pop tarts

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад

      @@thegunslinger8806 This is why we can't have nice things...

    • @thegunslinger8806
      @thegunslinger8806 Год назад +2

      @@MechanicalFrog I'M TRYING MY BEST OKAY! I was going to the store to buy some more but the green light changed to yellow, I panicked and ran the red light real fast and an urbie chased me and I accidentally turned on the gigagwatz and...well you know the rest.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад

      @@thegunslinger8806 Story as old as time...

  • @sanguiniusonvacation1803
    @sanguiniusonvacation1803 5 месяцев назад +1

    Used 3 of them last game.

  • @ThugShakers4Christ
    @ThugShakers4Christ Год назад +1

    When is the Battle Armour series going to cover the flea?

  • @bthsr7113
    @bthsr7113 Год назад +1

    The only mech I know of that rivals the Piranha for prime dakka is the Bane. And that's 5 times the weight.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад

      Also a fun mech.

    • @bthsr7113
      @bthsr7113 Год назад

      @@MechanicalFrog I'm particularly partial to configuration 3. It really earns the name of Kraken.

  • @DIEGhostfish
    @DIEGhostfish 11 месяцев назад +2

    Why do we love the Piranha? DAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKADAKA!

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  11 месяцев назад +1

      The Machine Gun Ammo manufacturer sure does.

  • @schneecoraxx8689
    @schneecoraxx8689 Год назад +1

    Good ol war crime bot

  • @RecklessFables
    @RecklessFables 11 месяцев назад +1

    Spider IIC

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  11 месяцев назад

      Toss some jumpjets on there and go!

  • @MrFireforge
    @MrFireforge Год назад +1

    This is the mech I so want to get in mw5 I cut legs off Altus mechs with my firestarter I know I can be surgical with the piranha

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад

      It would be fun. Maybe in Mechwarrior 6 some day.

  • @christophermzdenek
    @christophermzdenek 9 месяцев назад +1

    Pure luck of the dice roll, but I've downed an assault every time I've fielded one of these. Oddly, my favorite weight class... Medium, it where my luck always, statistically, falls short. Lights or assualts, though... Gimmick mechs... My play group hates me.

  • @lukedudley5030
    @lukedudley5030 Год назад +1

    In TT this mech is awesome..how can anyone overlook a light that can do 24 damage without generating any heat :-)

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +1

      Truth.

    • @lukedudley5030
      @lukedudley5030 Год назад

      ​@MechanicalFrog I have got a solaris piranha story by the way :-) I took part in a 10 mech light competition where you had to fight the other 9 mechs one on one with points awarded for wins and pilot kills and such :-) it was devastating :-) it destroyed everything it came up agains including wolfhounds, jenners and other clan lights...it was only beaten once by the eventual champion which was a locust IIC...and that was only by a lucky shot that took out a leg :-/ bit annoyed as the pilot was a very bad winner lol and although his repairs cost far more than mine he had to try to rub it in....didnt matter as I pounded him in every other weight class making sure his costs were high :-)

  • @BalamTheWander
    @BalamTheWander 4 месяца назад

    Mech Frog, What's the in lore advantages of a Machine gun Array? Also, how do you calculate their weight?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  4 месяца назад

      The short answer is that it connects all of your machine guns into a single to-hit roll. More specific rules in Total Warfare pg. 137
      Basically you roll to hit, then roll on the cluster hits table to see how many machine guns hit, then apply each MG's damage to the same location, possibly scoring multiple critical hits if hitting internal structure.
      A standard MG Array is .5 tons and takes up 1 critical location.

    • @BalamTheWander
      @BalamTheWander 3 месяца назад

      @@MechanicalFrog and the advantages in the BT lore? I don't really have any friend that know BT.

  • @xxxlonewolf49
    @xxxlonewolf49 Год назад +1

    "Rubbed her shaved head" where was her helmet? The clans still had them & used them & needed them...this makes the story/event very suspect.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад

      I can rub my head while wearing a helmet. It doesn't necessarily have to be the top. Thanks for the feedback.

    • @xxxlonewolf49
      @xxxlonewolf49 Год назад +1

      @MechanicalFrog Goong off the art work I recall for neuro helmets, and having worn armored ones for several years, if you are rubbing your head somehow...you are wearing it wrong.
      Nice video regardless.

  • @RibusPQR
    @RibusPQR Год назад +1

    I don't like arrays. If you're trying to hit exposed sections for crits, you want every bullet hitting a different location like with an LB-X.

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +2

      Yeah it really depends on what you're hunting.

  • @KhalainBear
    @KhalainBear 6 месяцев назад

    Isn't it the other way around? Clan Seas Fox became Diamond Shark?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 месяцев назад +1

      Sea Fox became Diamond Shark, then later returned to Sea Fox.

    • @KhalainBear
      @KhalainBear 6 месяцев назад

      @@MechanicalFrog Oh ok 😄 Thanks :)

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 Год назад +3

    The Piranha is one ugly monster and i never want to encounter one even if i´m in a mech myself.
    It has that bad habit of death-circling you and you can barely do ANYTHING against it.
    On the other hand, if it is on MY side...

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  Год назад +2

      Best hope is that you manage to hit it before it gets around behind.

    • @sim.frischh9781
      @sim.frischh9781 Год назад

      @@MechanicalFrog One can only hope.

  • @SolomonSamson747
    @SolomonSamson747 Год назад +3

    BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

  • @jamesricker3997
    @jamesricker3997 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love the Piranha because I hate infantry

  • @thil2894
    @thil2894 3 месяца назад +1

    That fucking thing... That's defenitively not an Orion.

  • @SamSam-qh1os
    @SamSam-qh1os 6 месяцев назад

    No Mech Frog version?

    • @MechanicalFrog
      @MechanicalFrog  6 месяцев назад

      This was before I started doing them.

    • @SamSam-qh1os
      @SamSam-qh1os 6 месяцев назад

      @@MechanicalFrog "OBJECTION!"

  • @noanswer1864
    @noanswer1864 20 дней назад +1

    I truly hate this mech to the deepest core of my being. I'd rather face an entirely range fire support company than a single one of these. I'd rather try to fight a whole lance of LAMs piloted by mechwarriors that know the tricks to making them functionally immortal. I hate them so much, that if my dispossessed butt were given the option of taking either a piranha or an urbanmech to be my replacement machine, I'd humbly accept the Urbie. I despise them more than Jade Falcon despises everyone that isn't them.

  • @drakkenmensch
    @drakkenmensch 4 месяца назад +1

    Small Laser: gets targeted by emotional support laser joke
    Micro Laser: "ARE WE NOT A JOKE TO YOU?"