Why We Should Celebrate (Not Hate) New York's Vessel
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- Now almost a year old, the centrepiece of Manhattan's Hudson Yards district has faced heavy criticism, with few arguing in its favour. It's time to put that right. This video was powered by SimScale, try it for free here - bit.ly/3aPkTYp
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I visited The Vessel a couple months ago, in the morning time to avoid big crowds. The views from top are awesome, not so much for vantage points but you feel like you’re walking in the air amongst the buildings
Seems odd but kinda cool.
So is the Bean, everyone likes it!!!
Check Instagram: @arktapia Pictures from December/20/2019 (At The Vessel, obviously).
when I go, I'd go in the morning too. Any tourist area
Do you need to buy tickets? I visit New York quite often and have passed it many times. Just never walked up because I wasn’t sure if admission was paid or not
Personally, I'd like it better if there was plantlife inside, like a vibrant garden you discover. The way it is now it promises something vibrant with its exterior but is just concrete on the inside. So it's a meh for me. I'd have liked a green area better.
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corhydron111 Couldn’t agree with you more!!
Personally it would be cool if they made an interconnected sort of "vertical park".
corhydron111
I totally agree:)
It actually looks like it's steel on the inside but whatever.
i would love a structure similar looking to the one existing but with plant life growing inside and outside, also maybe hanging from it. I saw some buildings in singapore and malaysia that have this and it looks beautiful. you can see it in the smart island city video from The B1M
I really don't think the architecture per se is criticised. It is criticised for what it represents. Privatisation of NYC public spaces and the largely shrinking housing space for low to middle class new yorkers. It is emblematic of NYC present status as the city for the rich only.
John Peric they drive up prices increasing the issue of New York’s real estate being inaccessible to the middle class
Same thing is happening in London.
tbf tho Hudson Yards is built atop the Penn station rail yard, a non private development could NEVER afford the construction costs, so for years it was just a giant wasted space. Would you rather them have built their rich city where a public project could have been built???
Nuclear RDX and if it was a public project everyone would complain that their tax money is being improperly used. Can’t make anyone happy ever lmao
@@johnperic6860 "Adapt or get out of the way"
You here that, Poors? Stop being arrogant! Ours is the divine right of Capital!
so it's an observation deck surrounded by buildings?
L O L
Yep. Remember to bring your camera so you can become an temporary unpaid, uncredited worker also.
Lol you bunch of funny and harsh trollers
It had an amazing view of the ground below!
...no its a sculpture with stairs
For me as a non-wealthy New Yorker, the Vessel is this: a symbol of us struggling lower classes trying to get to the top but just spiral around endlessly under the shadows of the wealthy elite's towers looking down at us. It's also literally hollow and does not encapsulate the spirit of NYC. I do respect it's engineering aspect though...
Damn
sound like a forced take but ok.
@Shady Queens there's elevators
also a New Yorker, its just a ncie sculpture, its not an observatory why do ppl keep treating it like its supposed to be. We have how many skyscrapers with actually good views of the city.
Look at it from the outside, as a sculpture, its pretty af imo.
also "wealthy elite looking down ont he poor" is 100% the spirit of NYC, you sure u live here?!?
Literally every skyscraper besides the Freedom Tower was built by a rich fuck, yup, even the ESB.
John Peric I really do not like you calling Nebraska poor. As a Nebraskan, this is very offensive and misrepresentative of Nebraska itself. Please watch what you say next time.
"I don't understand why people don't like a 150 million dollar staircase"
Justin Trudeau 😂😂💀
Literally. It’s such a tourist trap and not fun at all.
@2freeIvX how beautiful would that look LMAO
Oof, I was about to whiteknight it in the comments until I saw the pricetag lool
@2freeIvX I think it’s so you can see veiws of the area
In the next "mission impossible movie"
A secret meeting at it's top level followed by an epic shootout
@Wolfgang Kleinschmit Guess you've never heard of special arrangements. They would just sign a contract first dude.
@Wolfgang Kleinschmit if that were true then nothing would ever be filmed anywhere?
Dakke Fernet that's an incredibly original idea man
@@rerikm I should write for hollywood I know
And running, lots of running.
I’m surprised that there wasn’t a comparison given to Chicago’s Bean. It strikes me in a similar way and personally I like the addition of it.
Casey Allred I like the bean more than I like the vessel
Already is a bean finishing up in NYC. Google "56 leonard street bean". That structure is essentially the bean squashed by a building, looks to be even more interesting than the Chicago Bean.
The Bean is actually pretty cute, Chicagoans even do ugly architecture with charm. Tokyo too.
Yeah I can see the similarity.
"The Egg" in Albany NY
I like it. I would say it looks like a pine cone though which I would say makes it more of a beautiful structure than just "a vessel".
Pine cone was the first thing I thought of!
@@toddhensley880 the first thing I thought of was a trunk of a young palm tree.
Ofc its the pine cone... Its everywhere, built by the same people... Even in Vatican
I just don’t see how this one will stack up to the Statue of Liberty or the Golden Gate Bridge as a landmark for the USA, it seems more of a large (albeit very impressive) piece of corporate art.
dude, it's a public space, not a marvel
Exactly
Totally agree. I’ve been to the Vessel and it feels like entering an airport. Lots of security, imposing guards and overcrowded with selfie takers, far from any idea of public space one can have. Leave alone the policy of stealing attendant’s photos. No B1M, it didn’t convince me.
get a life see this is the problem. This is why it’s gotten so much “hate”, massively undeserved imo. At NO point was this supposed to be anywhere NEAR the level of the Statue of Liberty or the Golden Gate Bridge! It was never meant to “compete” with monuments like that smh
CMort760 so this comment is interesting, see I’m not attacking it, I think it looks beautiful on its own, but I think the Hudson yards on a whole looks sterile and very “corporate America” style. It just seems like it’s there for no other reason than to look at or walk around. I like a bit of vibrancy/history, like for instance here in Cape Town where I’m from the Ziets mocca museum is built into an old historic grain silo. They could have built a monument to the train yard underneath, or something like that.
Once again, this is just a stream of consciousness, I do like it, I just don’t feel it’s that iconic to the city 😆👍
the should put a tree in the middle
The whole thing should be covered in plants.
Would completely ruin the "feel" of the structure
Obsidian Nebula i think a tree in the middle would give a different poetic feel
Yes!! It would look amazing with plant life.
You would need a California red wood.
Open-Air Gym, LOOK at all those stairs!!!
Literally my first thought, as an ex New-Yorker makes me miss my old city
You think the purpose of a gym is to only climb stairs?
Why doesn't this store stock any merchandise?
History Channel year 3030: “aliens must of built this”
No way any of this crap lasts more than 60 years
*must have
I see The History Channel’s English will worsen even more over the next 1010 years!
Shiver Hinge *laughs in Beowulf*
The difference is that this doesn't feel much like a landmark between the enormous skyscrapers compared to the Eiffel Tower or the Sagrada Familia.
@Joshua Baruch Agreed. If it was a stand alone feature it would be awesome. (In my opinion at least)
Joshua Baruch that was my thought too
It feels like one of those bad ideas you're trying to forget
To me it was totally forgettable. It was too contrived in an environment that was as well to much a city within a fantastic city if you get what I'm saying. Pretty, but an underwhelming folly in a billionaire suburb of agreed upon excessive and forgettable nothing'ness....
It's because this one is built on an actual human scale, and not just for grandeur.
I proposed to my wife on the top of this in May 2019. Easily one of the most important moments of my life
"Stairway to Nowhere"
The Eiffel Tower is an Elevator to nowhere. Miss me with that bull.
Edit: Well shit. I shouldn't have said anything. I'm just saying that a defacto statue/abstract static thing shouldn't need some fancy purpose. I personally just really like how it looks.
In the end, aren't all stairways leading to nowhere, bro?
@Jacob LeBlanc illuminate me then. I might have misunderstood
Eiffel Tower was an antena :) and at First was made for temporary reasons, because of the international Expo. DOT
Not even close in comparison.
Diego Fernandez my stairs in my house lead me to my bedroom and the second floor . . .
I have to go with the "giant stairway to nowhere."
The main problem is that the view - of west side which isn't exciting to begin with- is hemmed in by the whole of Hudson yards. Its rmehhh
I thought it looked like a pine cone, but a vessel still works.
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Bravo! I work for an elevator company here in NYC and am friends with the lead Forman who installed the elevator there. A Very innovative project, I have visited and was really taken back by the workmanship that pulled that entire piece together. A testament to the Union brothers and Sisters who worked safely and professionally to make our city proud.
I used to install elevator entrances in NY and I noticed the odd rails. They curve near the bottom.
It’s cool but like... just like the rest of Hudson Yards, it just feels like a billionaire’s vision of a community space without really caring about how it integrates into the rest of the city.
Historically big new things have been designed to stand out rather than integrate with the stuff around them, and were built by people with money for people with money. Like all the original skyscrapers in Manhattan. It is only a decade or so later when a bunch more stuff builds up around the original icon that things start to integrate, but it is a forward integration, not backwards. Then a few generations later people start getting concerned by forcing new things to look like old things. That lasts for a while, until someone gets tired of everything new looking old and dingy as the rest of the world passes by, and a new cycle of building new things that stand out from the rest starts. This might be the start of such a cycle.
Admit it, you hate it.
The vessel by itself is actually a very nice piece of sculptural architecure. However it is dwarfed in the middle of a bunch of glass covered skyscrapers that have become ubiquitous around the world. Based on most pictures, the only reason I know this is in New York is because someone told me. My critique isn't really with the vessel itself, but the with the entirety of the Hudson Yards development. The vessel in this context, almost seems like a half-assed attempt at making a unique space out of otherwise ubiquitous glass architecture.
@@johnperic6860 You hate the superthins? Theyre gorgeous, 111 west shows how to bring art deco into the modern era. We cant keep building things like we did 100 years ago.
Is hudson yards boring just bc its made of glass, oh geez can ppl stop hating on glass, the structures arent just slabs of tall glass like the seagram building, they have shape to em, theyr not that boring in person imo.
Also from afar hudson yards is a fine addition. From union sq you can see the ESB and Chrysler, icons of art deco, Times square and its agglomeration of different skyscrapers, and Hudson yards with its slanted glass buildings.
You want them all art deco, forever and ever, smh
@@johnperic6860 ok were on the same page then, 432 park ave needs top, its ugly on its own, but the addition of other super thins next to it has helped it imo.
CP tower and 111 west, and even one 57 are all great tho
Visited NYC many times over my life and recently went there to see it and climb to the top. Me and my family loved it, one of the most unique pieces of art in the world. So cool to build art that is not only interesting to look at, but interactive with it being something you can walk up and through to enjoy. Nothing like it in the world and fits NYCs theme of building things bigger, grander, and crazier than anywhere else in the world. Definitely a must-hit tourist attraction now - a success in my eyes and of the hundreds that were there the time I visited
I love it! It’s bold and different. Everyone I know who visits New York lately stops to see the vessel
Keep up the awesome videos man, they are relaxing and informative. Love your content.
Ah thank you so much!
To me, The Vessel is an extraordinary, grand, and interesting piece of modern corporate art, like much much smaller pieces that are often seen in the plaza of other large office buildings or civic spaces... Yet this piece is far more ambitious, and generously interactive as well. It is as unique, compelling, and majestic a piece of art as is New York City itself! Not for everyone, but neither is NYC! It is a new gift to the people of NYC and I celebrate it!
It's a pleasure seeing the site coming together and how many tourists are already flocking. You forgot to mention, it is coated with copper. I did a lot of the work in the Equinox building right next to the comb.
Looks like an amazing creation, thanks for your coverage of this.
Your videos always have the quality of a bbc documentary which I love very much
Thank you so much!! Thanks for watching!
For such an expensive structure, wasn't possible a public library or public work space on the base?
This would eliminate a lot of critics about the utility of it.
Lauro well New York already has lots of libraries, and all of those towers around it have plenty more work space, so I don’t think any extra uses for its base are necessary
@@MrFib That we all know. Btw, anyone can enter the offices and work there freely with no cost? So you misunderstood the point of a public work place like the japaneses, HK, Australians or NZ have.
The main point is: A project must consider first the demand for it, then the constuction cost of this demand that is acceptable to form an acceptable price for them to consume it, and lastly the legacy of you project on this market, so next consumers will already have a prejudment of your upcomming projects.
They clearly lost the track on the Demand points, forcing a "NY Eiffel Tower" to obligate a evaluation of the offices, wich didn't occured. And on the end, also producing a bad legacy to the developers on the next project.
Whats would be the next move of them? Building a scale coppy of Eifell in from of your next boffice building? Is it NY or Las Vegas?
Let's not forget the coo got a lot of city taxation reliefe for it, wich means exactaly less libraries and public work spaces.
Critics about its utility should be asked to evaluate how much is worth investing to keep NYC touristically edgy.
It’s a private development they can build whatever they want as long as they have the money
@@aubreygraham5821 does receiving massive tax breaks qualify as "having the money"?
Out here in Chicagoland there's Woodfield Mall, and one of its defining features is a mid-level floor inserted centrally where the structure branches out between its anchor-store wings. Anyone familiar with our building should see immediately that this "Vessel" is basically just a bunch of stacked Woodfield mid-level staircases. Over the mall's four-decade lifespan, those stairs have proven to be a consistently interesting aspect of the mall's design - alluring, actually - so naturally I feel that NYC will warm up to this segment of the Yards development quite easily.
I think the Vessel looks amazing and that innovative structure shows its real beauty. It is like icing on a huge cake which is Hudson Yards. Great video!
I just loved it. I've had a great time. This place is amazing.
Hello Edilson how are you doing today
Anyone else seeing an Ironman-esk feel to this?
Definitely me.
Esque*
Love the Bean!
The Vessel is an inspired interactive public sculpture that promotes physical activity, social sharing, community destination, positive attraction for visitors to the area etc.
My only concern is the potential for "jumpers"....
AND what was the Effiel Tower, but a destination experience for a civic fair that is now a must do world class MAJOR experience.
Been there, done that mid-May 1999 with our family as part of our trip of a lifetime.
Wonderful too!
I saw all those stairs in modules when traveling there without understanding what they were for! This video is what made me eventually know what for!
I love it. I thought it should be called the "Hudson Hive." Looks so cool when you drive down the West Side Highway and see it.
The vessel is quiet unique. It just needs a beautiful flower garden with a fountain below it. That's what makes cities in Asia and Europe beautiful. Something American cities dont have .
American cities DID have this, but they are often ruined by the egotistic and vain ambitions of those who don't understand basic urban planning and design. Boston and Washington DC are two examples of US cities that still contain much of the natural beauty their European and Asian counterparts are famous for.
this is an interesting place, it looks amazing and I appreciate you taking the time to do this,, well done as always, thanks for posting
It really is a wonderful piece of design and architecture. It feels almost very much like a near honeycone shape. Now that I would definitely like to see built, but with a nice seating area inside each pod as you get to observe the entire environment around you, be it in the countryside or the city.
There's no use in making multiple accesible levels when everyone just wants to get to the top anyway.
This evokes Parians' reaction to I.M. Pei's pyramid at the Louvre. Now I doubt they could imagine the Louvre without it. If it's devoid of people, it's a failure; if the opposite, it's a triumph.
It is currently devoid of people. Again. Because it is apparently very inspiring.
love the vids guys!
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.. the Vessel itself engineering wise is amazing., construction-wise amazing. visually meh - I would've added green space for each terrace either on the inside (or outside).
Glad that people wanting to jump now have the option to splash on concrete in addition to the popular water option :D
I'm a simple man, i see B1M, I click
Haha, thanks!!
Me too. I see B1M, I click. I see The Vessel, however, I close.
I love it and can’t wait to go back to NYC to see now that it’s completed! ❤️🗽
Hey George how are you doing today
Maria Russo I’m doing great! 😊 Thank you!
I plan to visit it in March when I pass through NYC on my way home. I think it is amazing
I think a new video about the Hudson Yards would be very interesting ;) Although I was never in NY to witness it (bummer), I guess there was a lot of developments in the area since your previous video from 2016 ;)
People just want something to complain about. It looks beautiful and it will be a spot a lot of people visit.
When the Transamerica Pyramid was built in 1969, San Franciscans raged against its ugliness and how it ruined the skyline. When the Salesforce Tower recently opened, critics howled that it ruined the skyline by being taller than the beloved Transamerica Pyramid. This will go the same route.
When Tour Montparnasse was built, Parisians complained that it looked ugly. Today, the people of Paris STILL complain that it looks ugly!
People get numb to ugly buildings if you keep building them. The people in Paris stopped that, and thus, still are against ugly towers.
And it's still ugly.
@@TommyTom21 historically this perspective is rarely correct.
Usually, that's not how things work. 99% of the time, when people say something is an eyesore, it is. Just because it goes in reverse a handful of times doesn't mean you should act like it is like that all of the time.
This doesn't even contribute to the skyline, though. Views of it are blocked by skyscrapers
It's an interesting structure for sure, though I think I'm more fascinated with it (and the surrounding district) being built over a train yard. On another note, I had no clue about the existence of that stepwell in India. Wow, just wow! Eye opening information as usual. Thanks for posting.
I love it! It looks so futuristic :)
"154 interconnected stairs"
The title of this building should be "Go cardio!"
Denmark has a simular structure, just in a spiral, rather then honeycome stairs.
I got mixed feelings about that one too
You mean the one in the forest?
Well I similar structures can be found multiple times in Germany, Austria and even Poland. The only thing that makes this Special is, that it is not located in the forest, but between skyscrapers.
Well just its like 300y old and has all that limestone beauty and history in it
I like it, a open space that gets you elevated and gives you a nice view
It seems like the kind of structure we should've been making all along, in all different kinds of public spaces. A stunning, and beautifully realized concept.
Stairs to nowhere sounds about right
errr that disgusting flag in your picture
Tip for visitors: Inform yourselves beforehand about the ticket situation to gain admission for free instead of 10$ per person!
Yes, continue....
areaProductions it’s costs money???
Kiwibirdman1701 no, tickets are free.
It's $10, not 10$.....
I think it’s quite elegant and lovely, and, honestly, a pretty good place to get a stair workout!
The architect almost completely ignored the disabled. The design and elevator placement are such that people in wheelchairs have access only to a small landing on each floor, none of which face the Hudson. Nevertheless, it is a beautiful, inventive, organic form. The reflective surfaces are dazzling, especially at night when the purple and magenta lights in the surrounding trees are lit and mix with the dancing reflections of the crowds milling about inside and around the base of the structure.
As a New Yorker, I love this! NYC needs to take more daring steps in it's aesthetic development. It's the 21xt century for crying out!
I don't like the design, but I really appreciate they tried something different.
I wasn't too fond of it either when it came out, and then i went with a couple of friends. We went during a sunset on the windiest afternoon. The views were incredible and I think it definitely stands out as a landmark considering everything else that is around it. It has personally grown on to me. I can see why some would dislike it though. However, I do agree it doesn't deserve all the hate
Opening the idea of "public space" in the third dimension is a remarkable thing we should consider. My congratulations to the successful realisation.
I don't know what to say it's absolutely amazing wow
I went there. It was really cool, and I enjoyed the visit. However, the project seemed a little rushed and some of the floor tiles are loose and scary 😂
Really amazing video I personally think it's an amazing project
I see it a a work of art...a sculpture in which people can interact with. I love it.
I like this design and idea. It will become iconic no doubt in about 50 or 60 years time!
We completely agree!
@@TheB1M And I think you are completely nuts. I live in New York, and I can tell you, this isn't going to be remembered. Not when it has so much to compete with.
YES Finally, we are getting true Futuristic buildings!
@Andreas Knezevic How the hell is that Mediocre? It's striking, awe-inspiring, and amazing. You just can't appreciate new architecture
@Andreas Knezevic Hudson Yards have fucking tron lights on them, you don't fault a building with tron lights!
Pontential for multi level pedestrian “highways” as seen in Tokyo.
Multiple chains linking vessels could help heighten quality of track
I actually loved the concept and design of the structure and how it adds an interactive layer not often seen in public attractions. However I heard people remark on a number of flaws in the construction. I''ll have to see it for myself one day!
For those criticizing the Vessel, I suggest just visit it once. I also didn't like it that much, but my architect sister forcefully brought me there. And the experience was just AMAZING! it is such a fascinating structure, and I regret not visiting it early and hating it.
Truly unique, cool, beautiful and useless structure
It will be a great way to get/stay fit, climbing those stairs.
$150m staircase, waw
useless? a 19 year old kid used it xd
like eiffel tower?
@@casperd2100 what? What kind of point is that. That doesn't make it useful cuz some kid used it
NYC is doing a great job luring tourists to different areas of the city. More people are going to Staten Island with the free ferry and the outlets, more people are going to Dumbo in Brooklyn, and now more people are visiting Hudson Yards. NYC isn't just Central Park and Times Square anymore.
Hi, I was wondering if I had missed the videos that Fred covered from Los Angeles a while ago. Is it on another platform or just not out yet?
If B1M says we have to love it, then we must humbly do so.
Ahahaha
@Nunovia Gottdamnedbizzness Agreed
Just visited the Vessel for the first time last month. I couldn't agree more that it is a new architecture landmark for NYC, and one more reason for people interested in AEC to visit the city.
You're obviously not an architect. I mean human being. This building sucks
@@bergenbergenbergenbergen3512
as it is not a building . . .
I hadn't heard of this before, and the thumbnail looked like a really cool new building. Now I've learned it's a really cool staircase that cost $150 million.
Interesting-looking innovative structure with a meaningful concept!
This isn't a monument to excess, it is art. A monument to excess would be like the Colossus from Black Ops 2, a place where the rich live amongst themselves.
holy shit how can you honestly compare this thing to the eiffel tower and the sagrada familia?
you're defense of it amounts to:
1. it was hard to make
2. tourists are taking selfies in it
I think they’re more of saying how they were harshly criticized after being built, and then were soon loved by the people.
another great video,thank you sir
every time i see the vessel i bless it because it lowkey helped with designing a central staircase for a school design project lol
first look : what kind of digital beehive is this
second look : is that a roach carcass?
third look : must be a soulless empty heart for us peasants
Must agree with B1M this time. Essentially, a beautifully made monument to nothing but the joy of experiencing the thing is a monumental statement of human values, without which we cannot do.
Compressed in this question. This is important to make a video, talking about Hudson Yards. The B1M is a definitely channel of construction.
I think it's lovely, and I would love to see it in person. Only thing that I can think that would make it nicer is if it had special lighting at night. That would be amazing!!
i think it looks dope
As a Manhattanite, the Vessel does eventually grow on you, especially when you consider everything around it is glass and steel, it’s nice to have some copper in a sea of blue and grey. Btw those winds are no joke.
Congratulations for the video-info about "the vessel"
Looks to me like an excellent exercising device for the exercise known as "stadium steps".
there should be shops and slides on every floor
SLIDES!! Yes! Why doesn't it have slides..?!
My 4 year old loves stairs. So he enjoyed that thing.
Not sure why anyone else woud.
Amazing masterpiece !
I’m glad that they somewhat addressed accessibility in a fairly unobtrusive way. The lift track seems to integrate fairly well and doesn’t seem to effect the feel of the piece too much, although it does seem a bit like an afterthought. But is it totally accessible, or does the lift only go up the one side of it? And I wonder how far the whole idea got before anyone raised ADA concerns. I’m pretty sure that not having accessibility accommodations was simply not an option.
People didn't like the Eiffel tower when it was built, trust me people will come around the fact that it makes people have such a reaction negative or positive means the architect has done their job.
Completely agree.
@Andreas Knezevic you new Yorkers say that for every new addition to your city...
may I remind you, you also hated the original WTC.
Looks like a giant beehive
It's so beautiful
@Sub Zero Um how? How about you stop being so gulliable and open your eyes for once? There is no "satanic hive mind" or "NWO" and if it was a hive mind, why would they have s huge open space open to the public? Are you ok?
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@Sub Zero Exactly. And all projected by the Satan loving reptilians ruling the illuminati and the world. Open your eyes SHEEPLE!
lol
Sub Zero Gullible and wimpy, if people like us scare you.
It is beautiful and I am so lucky to have visited it
Hudson yards is mind blowing
I am so glad they included “several new restaurants” now that’s attention to detail. Hopefully something unique and outstanding like Cheesecake Factory, or Spaghetti Warehouse, as the best dining takes place only in massive batch, assembly line environment.