Really illuminating introduction highlighting how much lack of knowledge there is in non Muslim communities considering Islam/Muslims have been in the media discourse for over 15 years. Repeatedly studies have shown religiosity is a protective factor against extremism. It saddens me how ignorant people can be but such is the world we live in. This is why these lectures/books are so important to challenge preconceptions and ideas. Need to step outside of our boxes with open hearts (Muslims also!!).
Beautiful speech! Mr role model says: If you do not have a brief system, at least be a free man, free from selfishness, prejudice, arrogance and bigotry! Just remember that religions were send to make us more human. If your religion makes you less human then give it up and seek a better one!
Hi Dr Omid I am very happy to see someone like you highly Educated and well Reading in sociology and Psychology and Islam It is great to see someone towns down the difference between Abrahamic Religions And can Answer so many questions that the religious Leaders doesn’t know how to explain that in a simple language I am proud of your Achievements and congratulation to your parents and great women married you to take care of your smart and gifted children Congratulation. For your efforts I am happy to finally find something so great to enjoying the fact and stories Best of luck in your Paths of difficult Rode to teach Islam in America
Dr. Safi,it was great to hear your lecture.The only thing that would have been clarified which i expected from you is about the ruling regarding portraying the human being let alone the prophets.
I adore Omid Safi - a compassionate, warm human being who has become that because he's a person of faith. But I wish I could ask him some questions: These days Christians are undergoing rigorous questioning by atheists about our faith, and there is no way today's scientific minds will accept myths as proof that Jesus was the person we proclaim he is. We have, however, very good reason to believe that most of what is said about him in the gospels can be verified, because of early traditions and sources like the gospel of Mark which is said to have been written as soon as about 30 years after the crucifixion. According to historians this is too early for myths to have developed. From what I've heard, the time lapse between Muhammad's death and the writing of the hadith is much longer, so myths almost certainly would have developed. To me it seems that the crucial and pretty things said here by prof. Safi about the Prophet are mostly based on myths.... And then I have read many things about him that are quite certain, like his multiple wives and the battles and beheadings he got into, which make it incredibly hard for me to accept the pedestal Muslims tend to place him on....
Indorm " because of early traditions and sources like the gospel of Mark which is said to have been written as soon as about 30 years after the crucifixion. According to historians this is too early for myths to have developed." Really? 30 years is too early! One can create any mythological idea in no time, so 30 yrs is plenty of time to get all kinds of funny ideas in circulation and acceptance by a mostly illiterate and naive public of the time. All religions have their mythologies and even the history of scientific ideas has its own mythologies constructed by European powers at their height of colonial triumph in the 19th century. I should know as I am not only a practising scientist but also very much into the history of science. Fortunately, there are plenty of sceptical historians of science who have come to doubt these mythologies of the way science developed over two millennia and many in the field are active in investigating and exploding these myths, but the same is regrettably not so for history of religions that will find ready acceptance amongst believers. The rest of your argument is nothing more than a biased rant stemming from huge ignorance on the subject!
For an ancient manuscript that is amazingly early... The time gap between the event and the written source is 400 years for Homer's Iliad, 900 years for Caesar's Gallic Wars, 1300 years for Plato's Tetrologies, and you pull up your nose for a time gap of 30 years? And some of the Christian creeds, like the one found in Corinthians 15, are even earlier. The 1 Cor. 15 one is said to have developed within 3 - 5 years after the crucifixion of Christ. A 30 years time span is considered more reliable because eye witnesses would still have been around to criticize what was written.
I really appreciated this lecture, though I really wish he didnt share those white-washed Persian depictions od the Prophet. It might seem petty, but the fact that the Muslims tradition sort of gets things right by depicting the Prophets of Shem as dark brown-skinned people (mostly much darker than Omid himself), and we have so much scholarship to support this, and we're just at rhe tip of the iceberg in terms rediscovering them througg genetics, just makes it a tragedy not to put it foward to an audienxe who assumed the Prophets were just olive skinned versions of Europeans, because this is what most of the current people of the regions look like. Most of Bani Israel fled to Africa, not Europe and Asia. Their descendents at large now practice Islam and Christinaity, while only a minority maintain a Jewish/Hebrew identit anymore, though they are still brown as al-Tabarri described the sons of Shem and Ham. Perhaps Muhammad was an exception, but many of his family memebers, including his uncle and cousin Ali Ibn Abu Talib was a dark brown/black ("adam") skinned Arab. InshaAllah in the end times, the full truth will be revelaed. True Muslims understand that race doesn't make one superior in the eyes of the Most High, though when race is purposefully hidden, it becomes necessary to speak up. Perhaps Omid isn't a racist, but those depictions od Muhammad were clearly made by people with strong biases. The Prophet's family were slandered for their dark skin under the Abbasids. You can read that in al-Rumi: "You insulted (the family of the Prophet) because of their blackness (bi-l-sawad), while there are still deep black, pure-blooded Arabs (al-arab al-amhad akhdar ad’aj). However, you are white - the Romans (Byzantines) have embellished your faces with their color. The color of the family of Hashim was not a bodily defect (‘aha). (Abu al-Faraj al-Isbahani, Maqatil al-talibiyyin, ed. Ahmad Saqr (Cairo: Dar Ihya" al-Kutub al-Arabiya, 1949) I really wish he didn't even get into the NOI question, unless he was ready to unpack the history of African Islam, being that the first American Muslims were Africans, and unless he was ready to get into the details of how exactly they developed their theology. As unorthodox as it appears on the surface, it borrows from many Muslim traditions, even the fringe segments (ghulat shi'a, and hanbali anthromorphasim), as well as "unorthodox" (though less fringe) Ahmadis (the sect Walid Muhammad perhaps belonged to). Also, when he speaks of allowing the people of the religions to define the religion themselves it struck a chord with me. Though many Muslims aren't on the same page with myself, nor Dr. Safi, and perhaps this is the issue. InshaAllah we will one day come together as a community who rejects all injustice, and who tends our the "Salah" in purity and dedication to our Lord and Hir creation.
this man is wrong please advise him I said to 'Aisha, "O Mother! Did Prophet Muhammad see his Lord?" Aisha said, "What you have said makes my hair stand on end! Know that if somebody tells you one of the following three things, HE IS A LIAR: Whoever tells you that Muhammad saw his Lord, IS A LIAR." Then Aisha recited the Verse: ‘No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Courteous Well-Acquainted with all things.’ (6.103) and this is in bukhari,
Dear Omid _this seems your early lectures not aslearned you have presented Haq ALLAH and his Messengers with comical narrative to your human audience _ a totally derogative explanation . I believe your nafs and shaitan is tricking you and only ALLAH knows best. Wishibg you true guidance and salvation in akhira .
I'm not a believer but I'm starting to like Islam because of his lectures, but comments from a self righteous Muslim like you scares me. Maybe majority of Muslim are indeed judgemental and self righteous.
Excellent presentation thank you for teaching us with great patience 🙏😊
Dr. Omids lectures all deserve an A. plus. Such articulate communication of vast erudition yet with wonderful sense of humor.
wonderful lecture about his book Memories of Muhammad, is very good and informative thanks
Really illuminating introduction highlighting how much lack of knowledge there is in non Muslim communities considering Islam/Muslims have been in the media discourse for over 15 years. Repeatedly studies have shown religiosity is a protective factor against extremism. It saddens me how ignorant people can be but such is the world we live in. This is why these lectures/books are so important to challenge preconceptions and ideas. Need to step outside of our boxes with open hearts (Muslims also!!).
Ma Sa Allah. U clearly told about Prophat Mohammad(Peace be on him) in detail. Stay blessed. Thanks.
Beautiful speech!
Mr role model says:
If you do not have a brief system, at least be a free man, free from selfishness, prejudice, arrogance and bigotry!
Just remember that religions were send to make us more human. If your religion makes you less human then give it up and seek a better one!
Thanks a lot sir for your valuable contributions...
Hi Dr Omid
I am very happy to see someone like you highly Educated and well Reading in sociology and Psychology and Islam
It is great to see someone towns down the difference between Abrahamic Religions
And can Answer so many questions that the religious Leaders doesn’t know how to explain that in a simple language
I am proud of your Achievements and congratulation to your parents and great women married you to take care of your smart and gifted children
Congratulation. For your efforts
I am happy to finally find something so great to enjoying the fact and stories
Best of luck in your Paths of difficult Rode to teach Islam in America
Aren't we fortunate to be invited to experience the work of humanitys finest poet by way of the heart of Dr Safi!?
Dr. Safi,it was great to hear your lecture.The only thing that would have been clarified which i expected from you is about the ruling regarding portraying the human being let alone the prophets.
I am so sorry for you brother .
I adore Omid Safi - a compassionate, warm human being who has become that because he's a person of faith. But I wish I could ask him some questions: These days Christians are undergoing rigorous questioning by atheists about our faith, and there is no way today's scientific minds will accept myths as proof that Jesus was the person we proclaim he is. We have, however, very good reason to believe that most of what is said about him in the gospels can be verified, because of early traditions and sources like the gospel of Mark which is said to have been written as soon as about 30 years after the crucifixion. According to historians this is too early for myths to have developed. From what I've heard, the time lapse between Muhammad's death and the writing of the hadith is much longer, so myths almost certainly would have developed. To me it seems that the crucial and pretty things said here by prof. Safi about the Prophet are mostly based on myths.... And then I have read many things about him that are quite certain, like his multiple wives and the battles and beheadings he got into, which make it incredibly hard for me to accept the pedestal Muslims tend to place him on....
watch this:
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lack of knowledge lead astray
Indorm " because of early traditions and sources like the gospel of Mark which is said to have been written as soon as about 30 years after the crucifixion. According to historians this is too early for myths to have developed." Really? 30 years is too early! One can create any mythological idea in no time, so 30 yrs is plenty of time to get all kinds of funny ideas in circulation and acceptance by a mostly illiterate and naive public of the time. All religions have their mythologies and even the history of scientific ideas has its own mythologies constructed by European powers at their height of colonial triumph in the 19th century. I should know as I am not only a practising scientist but also very much into the history of science. Fortunately, there are plenty of sceptical historians of science who have come to doubt these mythologies of the way science developed over two millennia and many in the field are active in investigating and exploding these myths, but the same is regrettably not so for history of religions that will find ready acceptance amongst believers. The rest of your argument is nothing more than a biased rant stemming from huge ignorance on the subject!
For an ancient manuscript that is amazingly early... The time gap between the event and the written source is 400 years for Homer's Iliad, 900 years for Caesar's Gallic Wars, 1300 years for Plato's Tetrologies, and you pull up your nose for a time gap of 30 years? And some of the Christian creeds, like the one found in Corinthians 15, are even earlier. The 1 Cor. 15 one is said to have developed within 3 - 5 years after the crucifixion of Christ. A 30 years time span is considered more reliable because eye witnesses would still have been around to criticize what was written.
standing up ovation
Mohammad is obliged to lead common believers to heaven, Moustafa is for elect to take them to God, Ahmad is for the few, who vanish in ETERNAL.
Brother islam doesn't need anymore colorful way to explain.
Islam is already shinning .
islam is currently mostly shining through ISIS in Iraq, isn't it ? those guys from ISIS are your brothers in faith, aren't they?
If your own brother committed crime for that crime should you like to go jail ?
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I really appreciated this lecture, though I really wish he didnt share those white-washed Persian depictions od the Prophet. It might seem petty, but the fact that the Muslims tradition sort of gets things right by depicting the Prophets of Shem as dark brown-skinned people (mostly much darker than Omid himself), and we have so much scholarship to support this, and we're just at rhe tip of the iceberg in terms rediscovering them througg genetics, just makes it a tragedy not to put it foward to an audienxe who assumed the Prophets were just olive skinned versions of Europeans, because this is what most of the current people of the regions look like. Most of Bani Israel fled to Africa, not Europe and Asia. Their descendents at large now practice Islam and Christinaity, while only a minority maintain a Jewish/Hebrew identit anymore, though they are still brown as al-Tabarri described the sons of Shem and Ham. Perhaps Muhammad was an exception, but many of his family memebers, including his uncle and cousin Ali Ibn Abu Talib was a dark brown/black ("adam") skinned Arab. InshaAllah in the end times, the full truth will be revelaed. True Muslims understand that race doesn't make one superior in the eyes of the Most High, though when race is purposefully hidden, it becomes necessary to speak up. Perhaps Omid isn't a racist, but those depictions od Muhammad were clearly made by people with strong biases. The Prophet's family were slandered for their dark skin under the Abbasids. You can read that in al-Rumi: "You insulted (the family of the Prophet) because of their blackness (bi-l-sawad), while there are still deep black, pure-blooded Arabs (al-arab al-amhad akhdar ad’aj). However, you are white - the Romans (Byzantines) have embellished your faces with their color. The color of the family of Hashim was not a bodily defect (‘aha). (Abu al-Faraj al-Isbahani, Maqatil al-talibiyyin, ed. Ahmad Saqr (Cairo: Dar Ihya" al-Kutub al-Arabiya, 1949)
I really wish he didn't even get into the NOI question, unless he was ready to unpack the history of African Islam, being that the first American Muslims were Africans, and unless he was ready to get into the details of how exactly they developed their theology. As unorthodox as it appears on the surface, it borrows from many Muslim traditions, even the fringe segments (ghulat shi'a, and hanbali anthromorphasim), as well as "unorthodox" (though less fringe) Ahmadis (the sect Walid Muhammad perhaps belonged to).
Also, when he speaks of allowing the people of the religions to define the religion themselves it struck a chord with me. Though many Muslims aren't on the same page with myself, nor Dr. Safi, and perhaps this is the issue. InshaAllah we will one day come together as a community who rejects all injustice, and who tends our the "Salah" in purity and dedication to our Lord and Hir creation.
it is also impermissible to share pictures or draw or make or show pictures of the prophets, seek refuge in Allah brother
Allah (God ) is not going to punish this Egyptian brother on judgement day , if He does it's going to be for the lack of understanding of humor .
Islam do not permit depicting the Holy prophet....period.....
he should say peace be upon him after saying Muhammad
this man is wrong please advise him
I said to 'Aisha, "O Mother! Did Prophet Muhammad see his Lord?" Aisha said, "What you have said makes my hair stand on end! Know that if somebody tells you one of the following three things, HE IS A LIAR: Whoever tells you that Muhammad saw his Lord, IS A LIAR." Then Aisha recited the Verse:
‘No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Courteous Well-Acquainted with all things.’ (6.103) and this is in bukhari,
Crap
Making money out of God is a bad way of earning a living.
Dear Omid _this seems your early lectures not aslearned you have presented Haq ALLAH and his Messengers with comical narrative to your human audience _ a totally derogative explanation . I believe your nafs and shaitan is tricking you and only ALLAH knows best. Wishibg you true guidance and salvation in akhira .
I'm not a believer but I'm starting to like Islam because of his lectures, but comments from a self righteous Muslim like you scares me. Maybe majority of Muslim are indeed judgemental and self righteous.
@@reliefernandezb18 Rumi turned his back on the religious establishment of the time.