1 YEAR LATER "Comparing & Testing 3 Handmade Bows! (Which One Is best?)
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2021
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Could you continue the serie "Will it bow"? That was so much fun
the fact that a new bow will change over a few years absolutely takes the pressure off to be 100000% perfect. I might have just been sold on making my own (first) bow
A gentleman and a scholar. I love watching your videos and absolutely love the effort you put into all of your content and products. You made me fall back in love with archery after I fell out of it for a couple years
Kramer always puts so much effort into his videos, it's such a treat.
Hey Kramer , I purchased two of your d97 bow strings a week ago & they just arrived today . I have to say everything was great about receiving them down to the packaging & the wax seal on the outside of the envelope with your logo on it ( way cool ) I hope to have a long string life with the strings you put together for my daughter & I . I plan to use them when are old strings get to bad to use . I’m going to put knock points on them & condition them & put them back in there packaging until such time . I just want to thank you & everyone at shatterproof archery for every thing you guys did for me to get my strings & I look forward to buying your merchandise again some day (THANK YOU VERY MUCH) your friend Robert .
Your knowledge increases with each video and consequently so does ours! Well done sir!
Ah this was a good video, I bought my first bow recently, and I've been considering making one as soon as I can actually get into the hardware store. Making sure to seal the bows properly is good info I didn't get from the other videos I've watched. I'm sorry to hear about your personal circumstances, and I hope things work themselves out soon
I remember watching an Olympic archer being interviewed about their gear. The archer explained that the first 90% comes from the archer and all of the gear and refinement just helps you reach that last 5-10% to your accuracy and consistency.
Epic video kramer. It was interesting to see how much a bow changes. Awesome content and i cant wait to see the new shop. Stay shaterproof
As long as they don't explode you're good
Great video, fun throwback to the old builds.
i have been following your channel for a while now. One thing I dont see is selfbows from woods other than Osage. A native friend of mine (Ontario, Can) told me the preferred wood for here was Black Locust. I have harvested 35 staves from my yard and have started one last week. Thanks for your great videos!
Awesome build! I'd love to see you try to make a Penobscot bow
First and only bow I made was on an island in the noth of saskatchewan on a rain day while on a kayak trip. Birch 60" long. Killed a squirrel three days later with it.. time to try again in my shop.. cool Chanel thanks
Since I live in Europe I never tried osage orange but my favourite bow material all things considered is white oak. It is more durable and less prone to twisting than yew, denser and stronger than ash, maple, elm or alder, can hold any cross section, can be fire hardened and is rot- and weather resistant for a white wood. The only downside is that it is a rather heavy material.
Nice shooting. Keep up the good work. 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸
Awesome!
Great video as always, and fun throw back to the old bows you did. Sorry to hear you got robbed... they must have needed more than you? At least you can replace those things, and you're still an awesome dude with a great family and friends!
They must have needed them more than him? lol what?
I like the look of the handle on your latest bow and compared to these "old" one it's quite different - can you make a video about handles?
I own a a daylite archery phoenix and a rolan snake and they have quite different handles but both can be shot left and right handed. I still haven't decided which hand is best for me, so I still train drawing with both.
Video suggestion, for a stave in my case I use a lot of hickory but how to go around notts and straighten out the propeller in the stave and fire hardening be struggling with it and could use the info and the vids are amazing 👏 keep up the hard work its a grind this is a really captivating channel and love watching thanks
Very interesting video! Tell us about that shooting course.
Those are some pretty nice shots for 50yd. How about a shout out for that range? It looks really nice.
I’ve watched all your builds, really want to build one but am nervous!
Would be able to try making a bow out of an extremely hard wood like Ironwood or Australian Buloke?
Heyy, i was a big fan of u i am still a big fan of ur work. I think i came to ur channel before covid, i first saw the "DIY High-Performance Board Longbow Build" and loved ur videos ever since, u was my favorite youtuber, ah i have watched every one of ur videos before the DIY one and till new shop video the one when u reached 100k i was really happy, but i had to quit youtube. i used to watch videos in my dad's mobile (we only had internet in his phone), i really love archery i never touched a real bow tho but i love it, i loved to do archery every since i was young i did archery with simple Stick, Rubber bands and smaller sticks i really wanted to make one bow for my own but i cant. and today i was just going through youtube and suddenly remembered 'bout u, idk i feel really really happy now, thank you so much for the great content, hope u and ur family and everyone reading this is doing good and safe at home. peace ❤❤🤍🖤🖤❤❤❤
You may be able to quiet your bow by adjusting the brace height and padding for string slap.
Good video. Set also has to do with belly compression from shooting.
Once a self bow has bent can it be straightened again?
Where did you get the Osage for the build?
Is there a recurve you'd recommend that is accessory friendly such as sights, stablizer ect
How have your fiberglass tape bows held up?
Kramer, how long do you boil the limbs? What is the radius of the form? How long do you leave it clamped. I am building my first bow based on your videos and I love the things I have bought from the store like the tillering gizmo and the tillering string.
Hey kramer, I read that the thick rawhide will slow the bow down, maybe dry a thinner deer rawhide?
So assuming no good lumber stores are near where I live (home depot and lowes don't count). Where would be a good place for me to get Osage, Ipe and bamboo lumber from? Googleing those quarries does not give great results.
Make video about archery DIY outdoor target 🥰 and the best recurv arrows on amazon or ebay
Fantastic Ideas I will have to try that out 😏
@@kramerammonsarchery sweet! Cant wait will be fun to watch 🥰
This is a great video, though im curious how a bow would perform if during the year it was left out it was sealed so that some moisture left the bow but it wasn't to the extent of the bows shown. but like always excited for the next video and good luck with the new shop, hoping that gets settled quickly.
Hey thank you so much! That would be really interesting to do a side by side comparison with 2 bows one sealed one not, for a year! That is a great idea! Thanks my friend!
@@kramerammonsarchery I'm glad I asked something interesting, stay shatterproof
@@kramerammonsarchery you sell these bows
Osage is supposedly very similar to Yew, so Im not surprised it was more comfortable
They are actually very different in their properties... they are similar in that they are both excellent bow woods.
I use to say! It’s never the bow, which are causing the problems! The best bow is the one you shoot. Great vid!
My teacher taught me that the bow is very consistant. We are not, people are the errors in archery. This is why we must train for consistancy.
@@got2kittys I agree
Have you ever made a yew bow? It is the traditional wood for English longbows, though it may be very hard to get hold of in the US.
We have Yew here in the states, but most of it is shrub and not stave producing trees. I've only ever seen one tree if any size and that was on a university campus.
You say you shot the same arrow through each bow. Does spine and length not have a huge impact on the way each bow shoots? How much attention do you pay with that? Clay Hayes has and excellent video on dynamic spine but I would love to see a Kramer Ammons video explaining arrow spine and tuning.
Hope to see you make an asiatic style bow
im making a bow from leopard wood, Libidibia ferrea you should try this wood
Set happens mostly when the bow is over stressed, it allso happens because of moisture, but mainly its the bowyers fault, in the desing and/or tillering. If bending wood too much, too fast, set happens, if the bows bending area is too short or narrow set happens, if the bow has weak spot in tiller set happens. It is really hard to make a bow without set, but it can be done, and if the bow doesn't take in moisture, it will not come later either. Oak takes set very easily, maby the best way to prevent that is fire hardening, it makes the bow way more compression resistant, and set is allways caused by fibers compressing on the belly. On bamboo backed bows has to be very carefull not to make the bamboo on the back too thick, cus then the back will be too strong in tension and forces too much compression to the belly, and i think that is why the ipe bow has taken set. Ipe is one of the most compression resistant woods, but it too can be overpowered by too thick bamboo back. I think the bamboo is thinner, or the tiller better on the osage bow so that it has taken less set than the ipe. Since the ipe is so strong in compression, and moisture is pretty much only an issue in white woods (like oak) the only reason possible to cause set is the bowyer him self, he has made something wrong that has over stressed the wood, and he should learn why is the set happening and learn from that. A good bowyer can make bow with 1" of set, very good bowyer makes one with 1/2" and exelent bowyer makes one with no set at all. Personaly i have made bows with no set, but only kids poundages, but i cannot seem to be able to make hunting weight bows with no set, yet atleast. I'm in the range of 1/2" to 1" set, at the moment and so far my fastest bow shoots 180 fps with 530 gn arrow 53#@29". The bow is bamboo backed jatoba elb, and the bamboo is too thick, so the bow has about 1" of set, allso i made a mistake in gluing it, and i accidentaly glued it in 1/2 inch "set" (Its not really set, cus its not caused by compression, its glued like that) so the bow has about 1.5" deflex. I made that 4 year ago, and since then i haven't made bamboo backed adult bows, so it remains as my fastest bow, eaven tough i probably could do similar bow nowadays that shoots over 190 fps. My only adult bow i have build after that is fire hardened hickory self bow, and it shoots allmost as fast, i havent measured the exact speed yet, but based on other bows that i know the speed of and comparing the penetration i would say its around 165 to 170 fps (maby close to 170) bow 51#@29, its not optimized for speed all the way, cus its based on historical examble of north eastern native american bow, so there would be some room to improve the speed, with few changes.
Now that i looked some further in to the video, i'm sure the bamboo is way too thick, and the set is 90% caused by the bamboo over stressing the wood, the rest 10% can be the bowyer, or not
The ipe is eaven thinner than the bamboo, and there is no chance a bow like that could survive without set. The bamboo needs to be as thin as possible, cus the back of the bamboo is curved, the edges has to be sharp, then its thin enough, not like that, the ipe doesn't have a fighting chance against the bamboo, and it will compress. Thats why the ipe bow shoots under 170 fps, if the bamboo would be 1/3 of the bow limb thickness, there would not be any set, and the bow would shoot way over 180 fps
Love your work man, I've tried making a longbow 3 times and have failed towards the end of the tiller. Each time I've used Tasmanian oak (I'm Australian), was wondering if anyone had some advice? Perhaps the grain is to fine? Any suggestions?
I used Tasmanian Oak for a bow. During tillering (inexperienced), it developed a hinge and broke. The wood does not have sufficient elongation strength, or compressive strength.
@@keithpattison6763 ok thanks for that Keith, it's the only hardwood we have in the local bunnings and the pine they have obviously isn't good for bows. I'll have to find another place for my timber I think 😅 thanks again for the comment I appreciate it 👍
@@tobyward7486 Toby, what state are you in? I am in SA and Otto's at Stepney has rock maple that bows have been made from, not cheep though
@@keithpattison6763 I'm in SA so that's helpful thankyou. I'll look into it further but I googled it and it said it's permanently closed, probably just a mistake. Either way it's given me a direction so thankyou 👌
So where did your 100-pound bow go?
Do you make bows for purchase? I was just on your website and only saw accessories. I’d be interested if you do. I have a martin compound but I’m wanting a handmade native american style bow. Simple and straightforward. Something between 40-50 lbs
He is working through a series of prototypes this year and plans to sell bows sometime in the future.
Do you sell your bows
thats my regular field range
no bows out of maple?
For "will it bow?" series I have an idea: limbs made of Ikea bed slats (LURÖY is the name)
Bonnie Grace.... good choice. Not the best one off the album tho.
I like your bows and that one that you just review review next time when you get ready to review another or when one comes up for to for one of us to win one I would love to win one that way I’ll have one that I have my drawl weight here’s a 26 where which they wondering if you just review that one would be just right for me I’ve got one and 70 pounds but I’m going to use one of the other two cool that one daddy is my hunting bow but I’ve got to get used to a boil order for me to be able to pull thatCourse my name is Dennis Fain and I am from South Carolina
This guy shooting at 50 yards, and here I am looking for accuracy at 10.
Can someone buy the tools and materials needed to build a bow for less than purchasing a $400 bow?
Robbed.... Wait! What!?!?
Wait "we just got robbed" is all you're going to say? Cliffhangers aren't nice!
Do bamboo bows get kinda limp or weaker over time? That's kinda how it goes for skateboard decks. They start out super nice but they're heavy and they get sogggggggyyyyy!
An irrational fear of cameras yet employees are expected to sign a contract exposing themselves to cameras at any time without knowing if/when cameras are being used and not knowing if/when that footage will be uploaded. Good for him for being able to overcome his fear of cameras......but.....to expect workers to voluntarily take part in this is a bit much for me. Not that I want a job at shatterproof, or that they would have me if I did. Just seems odd given the mental concerns/problems the owner has in this specific situation. One would think that shop policy would be no cameras or video equipment on site without express, advanced notification to all employees.
dam you got robbed, im sorry dude, i hope they didnt take anything irreplaceable
I bought a $100 bow and i sucked. Went to a 400$ still sucked. I swear one day I will have enough money to buy a bow that actually works.
Or spend next to nothing and carve one yourself.
@@electrominded8372 You do understand it was a joke right?
I really want this bow .plz give me any bow
Only gear u need is your bow and arrows. No need for a silly armguard that u shouldn't be wearing because u don't need to nor a tab nor quiver
Sir I am from india I am an archer but now I facing hardship I can't afford a bow. I watched you video and saw you performing bow build. I request you to please give away me one of your bows.
Thankyou sir
quatsch
Give away one of your old bow, or make a new one and give away
Sorry to hear about a thief! Remember we still have the second amendment!
Arrow is everything bow is just a lauch pad wrong arrow spine point weight and nock on arrow and nock point on string always tells the truth an arrow never lies. Like your interest in old school archery may your always fly true
Robbed.... Wait! What!?!?