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  • @InverhavonRailways
    @InverhavonRailways Месяц назад +79

    The real unsung heroes here are the planners who work out the routes, often working out big diversions to avoid overbridges, unsuitable roads etc, and still get to their destinations, also the authorities who arrange for overhead wires etc to be moved/removed and replaced afterwards. It's all a big logistics puzzle they always seem to get right.

    • @lilyliz3071
      @lilyliz3071 Месяц назад +5

      Yes my friend is a shepherd as they are called and it’s a lot of responsibility getting it right and arranging escorts etc

  • @susanmaxwell6033
    @susanmaxwell6033 Месяц назад +108

    May i point out they have disassembled the traffic island, street furniture and traffic light to allow the turn. Wow!

    • @MrBrianholding
      @MrBrianholding Месяц назад +7

      I live nearby. They definitely have taken down the traffic lights and the pedestrian railings that are normally in the centre island

    • @jonnywilson9117
      @jonnywilson9117 Месяц назад +2

      @@MrBrianholding That's what She already said?

    • @9.5.9.5
      @9.5.9.5 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@jonnywilson9117I just noticed they have removed traffic lights and everything from the middle island. Amazing!

    • @phillipbailey70
      @phillipbailey70 Месяц назад +1

      Yes - the route got 'shaved' LOL

    • @jasonbrown9327
      @jasonbrown9327 Месяц назад +1

      I live in an area where this happens a lot - we usually get around 1 weeks notice ahead of time with the full route listed, usually on the morning before the load comes through or sometimes the day before you see the workmen taking the lights and things down, they usually just lay them at the edge of the road.
      Allelys has an office building that I drive past daily never knew what they did though.

  • @muddymrt
    @muddymrt Месяц назад +24

    From Allelys Facebook post...march 2022.....A first on UK roads! Over the weekend we successfully transported a 150te reactor and a 195te transformer in convoy! Using two of our specialist girder frames to transport the units 40 miles from Shoreham to Ninfield in tandem. Congratulations to the whole team for engineering, managing and delivering such an impressive project.

    • @LeHazy
      @LeHazy 26 дней назад

      shoreham to ninfield with that would be a pain

  • @richardparker56
    @richardparker56 Месяц назад +57

    In my youth I did a lot of work for Allelys. Nothing this crazy, but helped with his projects. Maurice Allely also had a great collection of vintage tractors. RIP Maurice Allely. 🙏👍
    I’m happy his business is still going strong. 👍👍😁

    • @rogerreed905
      @rogerreed905 Месяц назад +2

      I did what he did and checked out Alley's history and how it all started . . Pretty cool . .

    • @mick4862
      @mick4862 Месяц назад +5

      I grew up in the same village and was at the local primary school with Peter Allely. I live 250 miles away now but it makes me smile every time I see one of their trucks.

    • @sudazima
      @sudazima Месяц назад

      is that huge red dolly made by allelys or is a mammoet? the little hut on the trucks is that electrical power for the wheels?

    • @iainjones5002
      @iainjones5002 Месяц назад +2

      @@sudazima The trailer you refer to is made by Goldhofer, usually one of the regular Girder trailers that Allelys use for very heavy loads like this. The little hut as you describe it actually is for an operator to steer the multiple axles using hydraulics.

    • @sudazima
      @sudazima Месяц назад

      @@iainjones5002 interesting, not what i expected thx.

  • @stuborn-complaining-german
    @stuborn-complaining-german Месяц назад +64

    That MAN truck is the biggest standard heavy duty type MAN builds (except for special mod builds...).
    It has two steered front axles and two double axles in the back.
    The regular transmission type for regular big trucks are not "automatic", but fully automated manual transmissions with 12 to 16 gears.
    This heavy duty truck has a manual 12 speed transmission, but with an additional torque converter in between to allow for superslow driving and manouvering under load like that.
    That "tower" behind the cab contains sevaral additional air pressure tanks, a big radiator to cool down all the heat from the torque converter and also engine, a big coolant tank, hydraulics and fuel tank (since it has so many wheels there is no room anywhere else...). The frame is reinforced so the torque doesn't twist it.
    "Goldhofer" as it says on the trailer, is a company that specializes in the manufacture of trailers and purpose made heavy load transport equipment. Almost every time you see a rig like that it's by Goldhofer...

    • @seifenraspel2382
      @seifenraspel2382 Месяц назад +7

      The other big brand for this kind of equipment is "SCHEUERLE", both companies have similar products for special needs.
      Here they use "Heavy-Duty Modules" and a a girder bridge that it can be quickly and easily converted into a vessel bridge.

    • @IWrocker
      @IWrocker  Месяц назад +11

      Great information thank You 👍😎

    • @intermixhector2902
      @intermixhector2902 Месяц назад +1

      god

    • @intermixhector2902
      @intermixhector2902 Месяц назад +3

      good

    • @intermixhector2902
      @intermixhector2902 Месяц назад +1

      love you

  • @Peterraymond67
    @Peterraymond67 Месяц назад +56

    The hauler on this video, Alleleys is often featured on one of our TV programmes. The show is called Train Truckers and shows the company moving trains, both heritage steam locos, new locos and rolling stock. Not only do they shift railway stock for the heritage lines but also for the national rail companies.

  • @101steel4
    @101steel4 Месяц назад +29

    It's in England, and pretty standard size for roads designed centuries before the invention of cars.

  • @user-ld6ik5qm4m
    @user-ld6ik5qm4m Месяц назад +3

    The drivers of these trucks are the best of the best in the business at what they do.
    You've reached the top of the driving skills mountain when you are moving these massive loads.
    I've a lot of admiration for their driving skills when I see them on the road

  • @daverutherford6401
    @daverutherford6401 Месяц назад +5

    There is a video on a 255 tonne monster being driven through UK streets which is awesome to watch, i myself was in the RCT (Royal Corps of Transport) British army, we had the Antar tank transporter monsters for which we transported Chieftan tanks we could carry up to 100 tons GVW .

  • @scammellman831
    @scammellman831 Месяц назад +6

    One is a Saturable reactor which was built to a 30 year old design and the other is a Transformer , both built by GE Transformers ,,Stafford . UK the Sat reactor was 150 ton and the Transformer was 195 ton

  • @briancooper562
    @briancooper562 Месяц назад +5

    In remote areas, like some UK North Wales projects, building new or modifying existing roads is part of the project cost. The roads was designed for for movement of large loads. However what was designed in the 1960's does not always work in the 2020's. Things have got bigger. In the 60's truck engines did not have turbo's, so multi truck lash ups where common. We even used steam road engines The trailer designs came from Army tank transporters and the multi wheel (above 4) across design was yet to arrive. Brakes still used asbestos.

  • @Hewitt_himself
    @Hewitt_himself Месяц назад +14

    Whilst there is a much lower kerb than the US all the other features to make it stand out have been removed to allow the turn... the island would usually have railings for a pedestrian crossing plus white trashcan sized marker plastic bollards with hazzard markings and lane arrow,
    Remember UK road designs also have been designed around the OG mini which can run 10 inch rims... hitting a tall kerb in that sounds fatal
    similar thing happens with certain sized roundabouts when transporting wind turbines, they just make a road through the centre if going round would beech it on the centre island

  • @denissharp2471
    @denissharp2471 29 дней назад +1

    I did like your understanding of the problems of moving abnormal loads through the small towns of the UK, great narrative from you too, will definitely watch more of your content.

  • @iainjones5002
    @iainjones5002 Месяц назад +4

    What isn't often described in these videos, and of late, on television shows demonstrating these huge loads, is the organisation involved. In general it can take many months to set up for the movement. There are laid down rules and regulations in place, covering just when these types of loads can be moved. Invariably, they can only be moved in Daylight hours, and even then, movements can only be made surrounding Rush Hour periods. Only in very exceptional circumstances, are these loads moved at night.
    There are thorough recce's of the chosen route, so that every possible risk issue along the proposed route is factored in. Ironically, on the route in this video, one issue cropped up at a small middle of town roundabout which meant a hold up whilst the Experts worked out a solution - the problem was a building beside the roundabout was undergoing works to the structure, and scaffolding had been erected around the exterior, projecting out almost to the edge of the pavement. There was a resolution, but the expert drivers and support crews were able to re-negotiate that turn without any problems.
    Along the entire route taken, the notification processes mean contacting every Local, Parish, Community, County, Regional and Town Councils through whose control the load passes. That means their respective Highways engineers and teams can work ahead of the convoy, removing street furniture, bollards, street railings, Traffic Lights, even lamp posts and then once the convoy has passed through, reinstall everything removed beforehand. Utility companies have to be made aware, especially Phone and electrical supply companies whose personnel often have to raise power and phone lines to allow the convoy to pass underneath safely without snagging on cables.
    Advance publicity is generally made via local press and other media outlets, especially to make everyone aware, especially in Emergency Services, and Public Transport Groups so they can plan around it and Signs will be set up at least 1-2 weeks in advance on all affected roads to inform motorists.

  • @Carloco-ly6wn
    @Carloco-ly6wn Месяц назад +25

    Hey Ian,
    fyi, the transformer is only the "little" grey box in the middle of the two red arms.
    The red arms are only load bearing and pivots points for the steering

    • @IWrocker
      @IWrocker  Месяц назад +2

      Oh wow lol thanks for the info 😎🎉

  • @matsv201
    @matsv201 Месяц назад +19

    Typically when they have a crawl load they can load as much as 15 ton per axel. The loaders have 10 axles each so the totaly load is probobly close to 300 ton. The truck is probobly loaded to 15 ton on the bogie axel and 10 ton on the front as well. Adding a other 50 tons.

    • @CherryGS
      @CherryGS Месяц назад

      Good estimate ;-) "Each load weighs over 300 tonnes and is over 70 metres long."
      www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/news/2022/abnormal-load-being-moved-shoreham-port-ninfield

    • @65Tedybear
      @65Tedybear Месяц назад

      They have 2 (two) axles side by side! One can see it very well at the 2. loader. So you might double the weight! - Unfortunately I don't know the specifics of this type (made by Goldhofer), but for Scheuerle loaders I know them to have a grossweight of 20 tons per axle-line with a payload of 16,25 tons. (Specifics for German streets and a speed of 80km/h (ca. 50 miles/hour) Goldhofer loaders schould have similar weights.

    • @drdwatkins
      @drdwatkins Месяц назад

      "The reactor weighing 150te, and transformer weighing 195te, were transported on specialist girder frames with a total combined transport weight of 667te gross travelling in tandem."

    • @matsv201
      @matsv201 Месяц назад

      @@drdwatkins If both trucks and trailers have the same configuration that would imply that the first transport hade a brute weight of 356 ton and the second had one of 311tons.
      That would be 6 tons of my estimate.

  • @akyhne
    @akyhne Месяц назад +9

    I live in Denmark, where high curbs are also the norm. But Denmark is also a world leader in wind turbine production. So especially, over the last 30 years, many intersections have been rebuilt, especially around all the factories that make these wind turbines and blades, so that transportation of these giants is much easier. Curbs have been lowered and many roundabouts have an asphalt drive-through with gates that are usually closed, but opened, during heavy, long transports.
    I lived close to one of these factories for many years, and seeing these transports on the roads was pretty mesmerizing, when I was younger. Now, it's just the norm.

    • @akyhne
      @akyhne Месяц назад +1

      And the biggest transport, I've seen on the road (on video), was a transformer, if I remember correctly. It had a weight of 400 tonnes. It was a similar setup to the one in the video.

  • @werxeh
    @werxeh Месяц назад +2

    According to a local newspaper "The two loads, weighing roughly 300 tonnes each, took a 41-mile trip from Shoreham Port to the National Grid substation in Ninfield, near Bexhill".
    So that's a 300 tonne load in the video

  • @simonmeadows7961
    @simonmeadows7961 Месяц назад +5

    Not mountains in the background, but the South Downs chalk hills. The full South Downs Way is a 100 mile trail stretching from Winchester to Eastbourne. I've walked the whole lot. It's a wonderful place to be. Nearby is Lewes, which is the only place in England that has seen a fatal avalanche. The site is now occupied by a pub called The Snowdrop.

    • @IWrocker
      @IWrocker  Месяц назад

      That’s fascinating 🎉 thanks for clarifying 😎

  • @garyhinde1173
    @garyhinde1173 Месяц назад +2

    Allelys move some of the biggest things in the UK. This transformer weighed 195 tons + the weight of the double framed carriers.

  • @anthonybeaman
    @anthonybeaman Месяц назад +2

    Allelys is about 4 mile from my house, head office is in Studley, Warwickshire in the centre of England. They have to plan months in advance, and the low kerbs you mentioned would have involved dealing with the local Councils and getting railings and road signs removed where needed. Difficult to advise of pronunciation as English and American dialect differ but here it's something like AL-LE-LEYS

  • @VEETEEARR
    @VEETEEARR Месяц назад +3

    I think you would enjoy watching this video of a WW2 British army training film called "Scammell Breakdown Tractor Using Simple 5 to 1 Pull."
    It shows how to recover and tank from a ditch using a Scammell recovery truck.

  • @berrycreative7196
    @berrycreative7196 Месяц назад

    OMG this is my home county and heading through a town I use to live in. Polegate East Sussex. The building on the corner is an old tavern converted into harvester restaurant and they have dismantled the traffic signals. The hills in the distance are the South Downs and area of outstanding natural beauty.

  • @Woodie-xq1ew
    @Woodie-xq1ew Месяц назад

    5:00 on small roundabouts like that it’s common for the kerbs to be lower or nonexistent so if an emergency vehicle has to overtake a car stopped in the roundabout then they can run over that kerb while still carrying some speed

  • @bionicgeekgrrl
    @bionicgeekgrrl 28 дней назад

    If you search on RUclips you will find a number of similar types of movement of abnormal or special loads, including some military nuclear movement convoys.
    There are some special abnormal loads that have to go through Scotland and roundabouts have to have a lane through the middle for wind turbine blade delivery.
    Back in the 60s and earlier these sorts of loads would have gone by rail as the railway had common carrier status. Effectively meaning that they had to transport any items required, even if it required removing bridges and making special wagons. The UK railway loading gauge is much much smaller than the US one.

  • @martinbellamy940
    @martinbellamy940 Месяц назад

    This is about 5 miles from my house and the roads are small and winding. Where you see the yellow sign the turn is very tight. They went through the town as the alternative route was over a railway bridge which couldn’t take the weight.

  • @jackiea8394
    @jackiea8394 Месяц назад +1

    Not the kind of video I would normally view but you are making it all sound fascinating. Love your descriptions and enthusiasm!

  • @JoeWilson738
    @JoeWilson738 Месяц назад

    That was being transported to the power station in my town, about a mile from the place there is a bridge that they needed to take the railings off. That was a year or so ago, still haven’t put the railings back.

  • @deanwebb1362
    @deanwebb1362 Месяц назад +1

    Both trailer units front and rear have got cabs on top of them. They have drivers sat in the cab, steering all the wheels. Enable in it to make tight turns. They can even lift the trailer up-and-down until till tip.😊

  • @Naked_DM89
    @Naked_DM89 24 дня назад

    That lead truck is actually a relief truck in case the the truck breaks down and im pretty sure each piece of heavy machinery hauled has there own relief truck, the dolly's used also have hydraulic suspension so if a curb was too tall they raise the load enough to clear the curb.

  • @clareshaughnessy2745
    @clareshaughnessy2745 28 дней назад

    Thank you, I LOVED that. I’m going now to see if I can find the whole thing

  • @annetunstall967
    @annetunstall967 Месяц назад

    On certain routes traffic islands are removable to allow for heavy movement. Ipswich has a number of marinas and to allow for road delivery of the luxury yachts there are several islands that are removed to allow for entrance to the marinas .

  • @michaelparris3532
    @michaelparris3532 Месяц назад

    Polegate, East Sussex England... About 2 miles from me, that whole detour through the town high street was because 1 sharp corner the load couldn't get around

  • @philiptidmarsh
    @philiptidmarsh 23 дня назад

    That is great to see you watch a video in the USA made 5 miles away from I live. The Hills in the background are the South Downs and are now a national park. My friends office is on the corner.

  • @edwardlloyd1516
    @edwardlloyd1516 Месяц назад

    There were kurbs there in the middle of the street too. And trafic lights. They had been removed for the day and will be built back again afterwards.

  • @chief1176
    @chief1176 Месяц назад

    This is from my neck of the woods and watched this in person It was awesome

  • @joyfulzero853
    @joyfulzero853 29 дней назад

    I know this crossroad very well. I didn't know anything about this going on, however.
    This is in East Sussex in England, 3-4 miles from the South Coast. The hills in the background are part of the South Downs.

  • @tonym480
    @tonym480 Месяц назад

    The 'mountains' are the South Downs, a range of low chalk hills that run west to east across the counties of Hampshire, West Sussex and East Sussex. This video is shot at, I think, Polegate in East Sussex.

  • @kenhart6330
    @kenhart6330 Месяц назад

    Years ago I remember Scammells and Diamond T haulers on our roads. Scammell was an English company and of course as you know Diamond T was American. They were left behind when WW2 finished and the counterpart of the Scammell both being tank transporters during the war.

  • @londo776
    @londo776 27 дней назад

    That's polegate At the start of the video It's electrical substation transformer that's been transported From Shoreham docks To Henley down electricity substation, You can actually see me in some of the shots lol

  • @patrickcannell2258
    @patrickcannell2258 Месяц назад

    There are Kenworth in the USA and other parts of the world that do this load work too. I recall the International Pacific of the 70s that pulled and pushed these loads too in South Africa. Some loads over 450 tonn. Metric!

  • @pa8978
    @pa8978 Месяц назад +5

    There is 1 truck pulling and 1 truck pushing.

  • @liamstrange4939
    @liamstrange4939 Месяц назад +4

    The kerbs in the uk are generally small but they would of removed a bollard or a sign😊

  • @fozzie221
    @fozzie221 Месяц назад +2

    When going around tight turns ect a separate person steers the dolly's and can also raise and lower the suspension using air bags to allow the load to go over obstacles such as the kerb

  • @MatthewMcMaster
    @MatthewMcMaster Месяц назад +2

    Allelys are probably the best heavy haul company in the UK maybe Martrain as well

  • @ieuanbrindley4590
    @ieuanbrindley4590 Месяц назад

    You do have Mercedes trucks in the us, they’re freightliners with different cabs, both owned by Daimler 👍🏼

  • @fatlad5090
    @fatlad5090 Месяц назад

    the Daf is the spare truck incase any of the 2 MAN break down. I remember this going through leeds

  • @Peterraymond67
    @Peterraymond67 Месяц назад +3

    Hi. I used to travel to Stone, Staffordshire regularly to BT’s, my employer, training school. I used to drive along the A34 dual carriageway. It has a few roundabouts and there is a factory nearby that makes big power station transformers. These are very heavy so require large road transport vehicles. As the roundabouts make it difficult to drive long loads around. These long loads drive along here so often most of the roundabouts to the M6 motorway have a road straight across the roundabout with gates to stop other traffic from using the heavy/wide load routes, long/heavy loads find this easier.

    • @Mantis_X
      @Mantis_X Месяц назад +1

      The a34 is known for having the most speed cameras going in staffs, we hate it lol..
      Dual carriageway way and roundabouts make for a race track, ....I know the exact spot you mean 😅

    • @scammellman831
      @scammellman831 Месяц назад

      These were built in Stafford and went along this route

    • @davidfreeman4407
      @davidfreeman4407 Месяц назад +1

      Regular thing here in Stafford for these going out, they have built a new place right next to the a34 now so the movements will eventually not go through the town. Shame but also a little better I guess.

    • @kathleenlynch5763
      @kathleenlynch5763 Месяц назад

      Yes they come past where I live on the a34.chaotic to say the least.

    • @Jimthehumanoid
      @Jimthehumanoid Месяц назад

      I used to live in Stone. Large loads often drove north on the southbound side of the A34 as the railway bridge near the wayfarer was lower on that side.

  • @davidlamont5793
    @davidlamont5793 Месяц назад

    These trucks are know as ballast tractors because the traction on these vehichles is the big ballast weight sitting on the back of the vehichle over the rear axles

  • @edward8606
    @edward8606 Месяц назад +3

    I'm now catching myself every now and then thinking about a Scota. 😂😂😂

  • @bloodkiss4491
    @bloodkiss4491 Месяц назад +4

    this transformator was 212 tons at this day

  • @kathrynwhitby9799
    @kathrynwhitby9799 Месяц назад

    the police car livery is know as "battenberg" after the style of the cake, and they use "wagons" & SUV's (BMW X5 etc) for all the kit they carry, like road cones & signs for managing traffic.

  • @williamgrahamwilkinson230
    @williamgrahamwilkinson230 Месяц назад

    You ask who is controlling the steering on the wide beam jockeys this is done usually by a diver who walks along and can steer with radio control it can also be done via the driver in the rear training unit, ALL the operatives including vehicle drivers are in radio contact. When this heavyweight haulage takes place, the planners have been working for weeks before hand on the routes.

  • @davidmckie7128
    @davidmckie7128 Месяц назад

    There was also a TV series about them in 2022 "Trucking Heavy".

  • @charlesemerson6763
    @charlesemerson6763 Месяц назад +1

    The power station I worked at the main generator transformer weighed 240T, the reactor 160T, and the staion load transformer 110T and we had two of each.

    • @patrickcannell2258
      @patrickcannell2258 Месяц назад

      What size and voltage were the generator transformer?

  • @brianhepke7182
    @brianhepke7182 Месяц назад +1

    Thank goodness the weather was in their favour.
    And yes... the layman is oblivious as to the skills a driver of any piece of large equipment has...buses, trains, ships, planes, delivery trucks... the list is endless.
    And the responsibilities that person has when passengers are part of the equation.
    All kudos to these people.

  • @JeremyGreysmark
    @JeremyGreysmark Месяц назад +11

    That blue car is a Skoda Fabia :)

    • @automation7295
      @automation7295 Месяц назад +2

      Specifically a 1st generation Skoda Fabia

  • @wattyler6075
    @wattyler6075 Месяц назад

    That trucking firm also move locomotives around to. There was a TV programme here called 'Train Truckers' featuring this firm.

  • @carlhobbs9436
    @carlhobbs9436 Месяц назад

    If my memory serves me correctly the daf thats running in front is a manual these guys do alot of big heavy stuff. Also on the motorways they are going about 25mph at most

  • @akaxboxoddboiock9792
    @akaxboxoddboiock9792 Месяц назад

    I have used Movement Orders where my company applies for roads i am allowed to use when moving wide loads

  • @user-yk1cf8qb7q
    @user-yk1cf8qb7q Месяц назад

    I just looked it up and the load on the video here was 300 tons. There are many more videos of Alleys moving large loads, including mainline steam locomotives that can weigh in excess of 100 tons

  • @simonatkinson1107
    @simonatkinson1107 Месяц назад

    This setup is often a two wagon haul. The second tractor unit hooked up to the rear of the cradle can also help on those really tight corners and junctions where the rear end needs to be steered like the front end to clear the corners. The truck you said you could listen to all day is one of two extra tractor units that are there as a backup against any breakdowns on the other tractor units doing the actual work. The front multi wheel section is controlled by someone walking along side it and the rear section has it’s own driver’s cab, then you’ve got the rear tractor unit steering as well, So there is at least 4 people steering this thing.

  • @jillybrooke29
    @jillybrooke29 Месяц назад

    Thats where I live in near the roundabout in Eastbourne, Sussex on the coast of UK ....electric producing wind turbines if I remember correctly? That is a restaurant 10:11 behind on the corner

  • @englishcple
    @englishcple Месяц назад

    I used to drive a large truck like that MAN, it was a Ford Transcontinental. It had a gear stick 16 forward gears and two reverse. it was a monster , but fun to drive !

  • @sebastiansauer5569
    @sebastiansauer5569 Месяц назад +1

    1:33 Skoda Fabia (6Y - First Generation '99-'07)

  • @leonardburgess8527
    @leonardburgess8527 Месяц назад

    They are carrying a super grid transformer,these usually weight between 200 to 250 tonnes in weight.

  • @greenfingers41
    @greenfingers41 Месяц назад

    As bridge engineer part of my job was to route abnormal loads through West Yorkshire in the UK. The largest I was involved with was a 230 tonne all up load. It was a transformer going into a power station. It was always a relief when no bridges on the route were damaged after giving them permission to use a certain route.

  • @_Ghost.trucker_404_
    @_Ghost.trucker_404_ Месяц назад

    There do have also a truck at the back pushing to help move it forwards

  • @ROBOTRIX_eu
    @ROBOTRIX_eu Месяц назад +4

    ..the train was there stopped, waiting..

  • @konarider443
    @konarider443 27 дней назад

    Things I never expected to see on watching this channel: The exact place I used to live!

  • @b101uk9
    @b101uk9 Месяц назад +3

    a lot of the heavy haulage trucks are often manual although newer ones may be automated, one thing they do tend to have in common on MAN and Mercedes Benz trucks is a turbo-clutch or WSK etc, this is a combined friction plate clutch and torque converter, so you can use a torque converter for starting and shunting, they switch to manual gears once moving for greater economy and power, if you want to see an example of a turbo clutch, look up the Voith turbo retarder clutch (VIAB) [ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=voith+turbo+retarder+clutch]

    • @VascarVanVamp
      @VascarVanVamp Месяц назад

      The question itself can only be answered for trucks up to around 350 tonnes. Everything above that is special conversions and then the customer decides what they prefer.
      I seem to remember a non-road-legal tractor at a German shipyard that had to pull ship engines up to 500 tons, with 32 half-step manual transmissions, and a gear ratio that only allowed around 40 - 45 kmh. I imagine it will be super stressful, but the owner wanted it that way.

    • @b101uk9
      @b101uk9 Месяц назад

      @@VascarVanVamp well look at it this way, the MAN and Mercedes Benz trucks can operate up to 400 tonnes GTW each in parts of the world like South America on-road, though in Europe they are limited to 250 tonnes on-road each, so for each multiple of 250t there needs to be 1 truck, so a 500t load needs at least 2 trucks on the public road (on private property they can operate at significantly high loads each well above 500t), if we are talking away from the public road, then context come into play, if your looking at a dockyard they they will probably be Alison automatics with pure torque converter as they are not covering distance (if they don't go for the SPMT option which is hydrostatic drive and docks have shifted towards),
      if you are talking about oilfield in the middle east then for example the 500 tonne and 1000 tonne Titan just use the same engine and driveline as the Mercedes Benz trucks 250T truck, just coupled to lower ratio transfer box will lower ratio heavy axles, so they still use turbo-clutch combination, though they are tailor made to the customer spec.
      so if the customer wants an Alison they can, but a 6-speed Alison (just a torque converter) offers no advantage over a 12 or 16-speed that is manual or automated AND has a turbo-clutch (torque converter and plate clutch) that has more than twice the gear steps.
      at one time the Alison units were the only real options at the heavy end of things, but with turbo-clutch combination things have been moving towards them.

    • @VascarVanVamp
      @VascarVanVamp Месяц назад

      @@b101uk9 I am only aware of a limit of 250 t in Europe in direct connection with bridges. It is not uncommon for freight weighing more than 500 tons to be on the road.
      For me it wasn't about which type of gearbox made sense, but rather about the fact that after a certain weight the general offer simply stops and that there are customers who also make decisions that are far from logical. The shipyard example should make this clear, because yodeling up and down 32 gears to get to a speed of 40 would simply be too stupid for me personally, which supports your assessment of an automated solution.

    • @b101uk9
      @b101uk9 Месяц назад

      @@VascarVanVamp re-read what I said, in Europe on the road for each multiple of 250t requires a truck, thus a load of 250t to 500t requires a minimum of 2 trucks, a load of 500t to 750t requires a minimum of 3 trucks, etc etc, so a load of 775t GVW for example needs 4 trucks connected to it, but in South America that same load could be pulled by just 2 trucks on the road. - my comment had NOTHING to do with the maximum weight of the indivisible load that could be moved, just the minimum amount of trucks based on weight of the load and the "trailer" upon which it sits in terms of GVW.
      as for the port example, when pulling 500t or 1000t in a port your overall speed is irrelevant, you are not going to be doing 40km/h unless your empty in a port, and if your empty the amount of gears you have above X number is irrelevant, as being empty you will skip gears (also keep in mind 32 gears is just a standard 16-speed gearbox coupled to a 2-speed [high and low range] transfer box as you would find on most AWD trucks or even 4x4 like land rover or G-wagon etc), even a large port or shipyard is a small place relatively speaking which is why slow SPMT have taken over trucks in shipyard etc sectors, because they can with enough of them move tens of thousands of tonne modals operated from a single remote control.

    • @huwsalway4099
      @huwsalway4099 Месяц назад

      And the big advantage of the turbo retarder clutch is that reappeared hill starts are possible where as it’s to be avoided at all costs on anything else. It’s happened to me where I was in a Merc with 150t machine on where we were forced to stop on a steep climb as a lorry came around the corner on a site unexpectedly. No problem restarting but does need the driver to know how it works to get the best from it. Brilliant system especially issues on older ones are now resolved and modified

  • @keltthomas8476
    @keltthomas8476 Месяц назад

    Allelys i spent 8 years there on heavys did some proper heavy abnormal loads there great firm to work for the whole team is awsome

  • @planekrazy1795
    @planekrazy1795 24 дня назад

    There is a TV series in the UK called Train Truckers about a specialist company that ship New Trains and Vintage Steam Trains around the country.

    • @planekrazy1795
      @planekrazy1795 24 дня назад

      Allelys is the same company that ship the Trains.
      It's unbelievable what they shift.

  • @paulbromley6687
    @paulbromley6687 Месяц назад +1

    I once was driving near Lincoln in England when I saw a massive mis shaped aircraft possibly a super transporter airbus aircraft it flies the wings for the largest aircraft to where they are fitted. It looks in flyable like a massive block unwieldy at low level.

    • @sjbict
      @sjbict Месяц назад

      AirBus use a plane that looks like a beluga whale

  • @deezelfairy
    @deezelfairy Месяц назад

    I lot of european heavy haulage trucks use a transmission called a ZF Transmatic which is a 16 speed manual with a clutch but also a torque converter in front as well.
    Kind of gives the best of all worlds. Got your multiple manual gear choices but also have the torque multiplication effect of the torque converter and the ability to do smooth, low speed manoeuvring without using the clutch.

  • @dancarter482
    @dancarter482 Месяц назад

    My local town used to have steam locomotives delivered to the station for special occasions - one evening after work I noticed traffic backed up for miles so I parked and walked in. One of those multi-wheeled trailers with a _huge_ loco on it had burst its hydraulics while trying to make a sharp turn. The whole town was gridlocked solid and the street was awash with _Texas Tea!_

  • @binkybuns462
    @binkybuns462 Месяц назад

    I, also, find these fascinating. Have you seen the '70m 145 tonne lorry meets small Surrey roundabout'? That was the first one of these I saw and I still love to watch it every so often.

  • @johnsovcom
    @johnsovcom Месяц назад

    I belive the load was 200 tones, the hills are the south downs at the back of the seaside town of eastbourne, the load was on it way to dungeness power station. The highways agency removed over 300 signs on the road .

  • @thomasgarwell8214
    @thomasgarwell8214 Месяц назад

    Another channel to see is if you search ALE Heavy Haulage. They've now gone out of business and I think maybe that Alleleys have taken over and use their equipment. These type of haulage are planned months in advance, as they need to let people know on the route to relocate their cars from outside of any properties, and they usually have their own mobile tyre fitters and on occasion, tree surgeons if they need a heavy branch lopping off. The bollards on roadways are also taken away. This truck will be manual not automatic, and on a lot of our lorries over here, they can switch over from auto to manual. On the front of the truck, you can see "STGO Cat 3". This is the code used for the weight, including what tyres are needed for a heavy weight load like this one. When watching the ALE Heavy Haulage, they haul transformers which weigh about 700 tons. By the way, at 11:12, you can see a yellow sign as a warning that a heavy load will be coming through on such a date

  • @CycloneCyd
    @CycloneCyd Месяц назад

    In previous times, I've spectated on big manouvres and I've seen lamp posts , traffic lights and even power lines removed from place to be able to get 'stuff' through.
    Yeah, that trafficprobably hadno clue, but remember, we're British - Masters of the Art of Queueing.

  • @Sharpey187
    @Sharpey187 Месяц назад +1

    Al-lel-ees is how you pronounce Allelys 👍🏻
    A TV show called ‘train truckers’ is about all the trains they move around the country & Europe

  • @bobanob1967
    @bobanob1967 Месяц назад +1

    "Hey you're the new guy. You get to check all the tyre pressures".

  • @jarvisa12345
    @jarvisa12345 17 дней назад

    7:16 The lead truck is probably there in case the one doing the work breaks down.

  • @alexrobinson2281
    @alexrobinson2281 Месяц назад

    They have a guy goes out and measures everything months before the move , clever lad with a tape measure

  • @graciefolden2359
    @graciefolden2359 Месяц назад

    We in North America (I'm in 🇨🇦) haul loads just as large as this. We even in the past have designed our own trailers for specific loads which we would tear down (the trailer) at the final destination and erect it vertically into a gantry crane. The one thing that, up here in the oilfields we don't have to deal as much with is the long drawn out routes going through towns with no bypass roads available.

  • @edwardwoodstock
    @edwardwoodstock Месяц назад

    Normal stuff for Allelys.Those trailers are amazing.

  • @seijika46
    @seijika46 17 дней назад

    This is why bypasses are so important.

  • @richardhunt1384
    @richardhunt1384 Месяц назад

    1:42 It's a Sköda Fabia, looks a base spec possible.

  • @richard_runs
    @richard_runs Месяц назад

    I live so close to here, I know this junction well. The event was publicised for weeks hence the crowd.
    The kerb you talk of has had barriers and traffic lights removed.

  • @steverobey711
    @steverobey711 Месяц назад

    Hi I Wroker I was one of the guys who asked you to show you heavy haulage in England as you have noticed our roads are small compared to the USA
    These transformers can way anything up to 400 Tonnes which will involve three of these trucks up the hills and they are allowed to travel on the motorway at 20 miles per hour which causes tailbacks
    Our motorway's consists of four lanes the Escort car at the back stop the cars from
    Overtaking this very oversized loads
    Wishing you all the best from Nottinghamshire 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @BerlietGBC
    @BerlietGBC Месяц назад

    This was a two day move , I watched it come out off Shoreham on the Saturday morning and watched though to Patcham, it’s was complicated move due to weak bridges witch meant there had to run wrong side for much of the route as well as put in a temporary bridge at Lewis , a friend of mine was steersman on one of the trailers. This company is well worth following they do a lot of great work
    The hills you commented on are the south down to the east of Lewis in Sussex
    Weight I seam to remember each load was over 150 tonne
    See if you can find the first day off the move when they pushed each load out of Shoreham docks.
    If you like old heavy haulage lots of good old stuff on here

  • @wendymorgan1718
    @wendymorgan1718 27 дней назад

    My friend Kevin is one of their drivers in the show.

  • @Turn1t0ff
    @Turn1t0ff Месяц назад

    McMurchy's of Leicester have some beast rigs. Not sure if they have much social media exposure, but I see their tractor units all over the county and a few of their units are insane.

  • @65Tedybear
    @65Tedybear Месяц назад

    5:41: Flat tyre: Under the vehicle are everywhere 2 axles with twinwheels side by side. Those axles are called Pendelachse or pendulum axle as the can tilt (left wheels up and right wheels down or vice versa). If the left side is lifted up on an otherwise flat ground, that would result in the right outer tire bearing must of load ans thus gat flatened. At 5:48 the wheel is round again. - By the way: those axles can be lifted or extended for about one foot (30 cm). They are interconnected, if one axles gets pushed into the vehicle all other axles gets pushed out,

  • @theworldaccordingtochris4370
    @theworldaccordingtochris4370 Месяц назад

    The trucks have automated manual transmissions with a torque converter, that's what takes up the weight at the low speed.

  • @interceptor-ss8kb
    @interceptor-ss8kb Месяц назад

    212 tonnes thats some serious haulage

  • @JohnTheYouTubeSuperfan
    @JohnTheYouTubeSuperfan Месяц назад

    Hello Ian of IWrocker, I love your videos!

  • @JMac7991
    @JMac7991 Месяц назад

    Something like this came through my town a few years ago but hauling wind turbine blades from port to the new wind farm being built. They came round and chopped some islands back to allow for the turn, removed traffic lights, signs etc and in one case for a particularly tight roundabout, ploughed a gap straight through the middle for the turbine to get through. Many of these works they never reinstated so can still see the evidence.

  • @philiptodd6255
    @philiptodd6255 Месяц назад

    Back in the early days from the early 1900 s to the 1970 s Pickfords were one of the main companies carrying very large loads like these they used scammel trucks and trailers until deregulation when any company with large vehicles could do the same work

  • @frankt2658
    @frankt2658 Месяц назад

    Trucks like this one are usually custom build. This one most likely has manual transmissin, but several gears more than your usual transmission. It´s like that "Unimog" you reacted on some time ago. I once drove one with stick shift and it had 16 gears, 3 reverse and 13 forward. I had to shunt railway wagons in a malthouse.
    I beleive, this one has a similar setup.
    TBH, I´ve seen bigger, more dificult and way more impressive hauls here in Berlin (after gemany´s reunification).
    And I´ve traveled to one haul specifically near Siegen. It was a 1680 ton haul (high pressure chemical reactor) through narrow and curvy moutain roads and through small old villages. That was one hell of an experience!