Perfectly good M1 MacBooks are being scrapped because of Activation Lock
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Just as millions of iPhones and iPads have been scrapped due to Activation lock, we are now seeing 2018+ MacBooks scrapped at recyclers as well, due to the "feature" being enabled on those devices.
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Macs should ONLY lock like this when they are in “lost mode”. Shame on apple for locking computers that aren’t lost or stolen
What if they steal your mac? Wouldn’t he wanted to be locked?
@@apostolosviol then I’d put it on lost mode dummy
@@apostolosviolYou are the slow type aren't you
@@apostolosviol Then put it into lost mode then
Exactly! Apple's own policy even states that they can unlock the device if it's not in lost mode, that you just need to show some kind of proof of purchase (and Apple's support even says that places like eBay are even acceptable). The problem is Apple doesn't care about these machines going to waste, their unlock process is vague, and they isolate the unlock team from the rest of the company,
Everytime I run across an activation locked MacBook or Apple product, I tweet a picture to Apple and complain. I run across a lot too. They contribute to the ewaste problem and scrapping perfectly MacBooks for activation locks is a slap in the face to people out there who can't afford tech. We are throwing away or using parts off of good laptops that other people, less fortunate could use. I'd rather see them donated to charity.
And to make matters worse the parts will be useless because of parts pairing. So many damaging technologies converging into a giant mass of destruction
Lots of water, disel, gas, electric etc…. to creat a machine and just to scrap it that’s sad if it’s not stolen it will good to give it a new home
Activation lock isn't a bad idea, but the current implementation of it is half-assed.
Its not, every locked mac is one mac out of the market, which means apple gets to sell another.
@ingusmant
Nah they gotta be losing at least 2 out of 10 users when they forgot ID or get scammed trying to buy used, the user might end up going for windows laptop after the experience, then when ready to buy new they'll likely still to what they know works
They are losing out on potential customers that aren't already deeply invested in the ecosystem or obsessed with apple status
Most normal people just buy something and if it doesn't work out will buy something else unless they feel a need for it
Though it happening on devices that aren't reported stolen because account was left on it or the email was forgotten is anti-consumer and should be illegal though, like hardly anyone I know keeps purchase receipts more then a few months and if you didn't buy from the Apple store them is no garentee the serial number is on the receipt so if the box was thrown out your stuffed.
Also have you ever tried helping non tech literate people do something as simple as logging into an account, or resetting passwords
There be a bunch if accounts with erased macbooks linked to them that are still activated and they never remove the old devices from the list or don't log I to the accounts again
After awhile someone might change email or phone number them forgot the password and account is permanently lost which happens quite frequently, I have 6 google emails I lost access to due to a phone number that is in the void and google locking the account despite me knowing my password. So it's not out of the question, also I got really unlucky with my apple account and when asking for an old account to be deleted and email changed on account I lost access too, the rep deleted my current account that email was supposed to be changed on and put the email on the account that was supposed to be deleted which wasn't mine so now I'm stuck with someone else's apple account I can't reset security questions on and my account was nuked but it's also in my name and has my DOB 😂 it's a mess
Apple should really be sewed for doing this. Apples Number one reason for doing this is to destroy the used macbook marketplace to prevent used devices to be resold. Their goal is for people to not buy a used device but rather go buy a brand new one. The less used devices sell, the more money they make.
Class action or government suit for sure!
SUED.....
Got a few macbooks from a recycling company as well, had this issue. Surprised there is no one talking about how we are wasting tech because of something like activation lock.
I liked your idea of fixing this.
I’m talking about it! Have been for years
@@RDKLInc Who should I contact? I contacted Apple Support and they said they didn't know what i was talking about when I asked my Mini to be put on the 30 day wait list.
Its more profitable this way, apple doesnt give a s**t about you or anyone, just the all mighty dollar
How do you report to apple, please make a video, it would help us so much
@@RDKLInc please make a video of reporting to apple and getting them unlocked please × 777
Great VIDEO ! Such waste ... There should be a method for all these quality devices to get into the hands of those who could continue to use them.
Is it possible I can purchase one?
Apple should be sued for this waste. Apple should have some sort of back door available to fix these systems. They should also just dump activation lock. I’m just afraid that Apple won’t care.
lots of e-waist till someone finds a use for them and bye then there probably scraped
It's on purpose. Every unrecoverable locked Mac is another used Mac that won't be competing with a new one. It's a way to cripple a huge chunk of used Mac sales, since Apple makes no money off someone buying a used Mac. But they're doing it for your privacy, and your safety. Haha
At least Steve was not like this with his intel Macs. Tim implementing this in the 2018-Present Macs is abysmal. I bet Steve is rolling around in his grave because of activation lock decision by Tim. Intel lives on. Silicon is garbage.
Which completely goes against their whole BS of being eco friendly planet bs lo;
@@analogvintagegamer yeah man, all the shady shit apple has done has been under Tim. The product slow down scandal, activation lock contributing to E waste, the Soldered on ram and NAND drive insuring you HAVE to pay their insane upgrade prices, the NAND drive WILL slow down and fail due to the OSX now using it as ram when the on board gets used up causing failure in 5 years under daily use. replacement screens need to be purchased ONLY through apple or you can't get the screen to work properly, they have become everything Jobs stood against.
You don't understand. This isn't bad design. This is deliberate design.
It's still a bad design though
I thought soldered Nand drives where there new planed obsoletion tactic, this is even worse.
yes exactly deliberate design of legitimate fraud
thats why i finally switched had this happen to my 2019 so i bought a 2020 both from apple an both i got activation locked out of but never kept my receipt so they wouldnt help bypass the lock smh
@@Gcannoli1837 No. It is a good design. It reduces the supply of (used) Apple computers, thus yielding greater sales of new Apple computers.
Hi John - thanks for voicing what we are ALL feeling about this inane obstacle turning terrific computers/devices into BRICKS.
Wanted to ask: y/tube is FILTHY with video's about unlocking devices...do ANY of those work?!? Can you recommend any method?
No as far as I know it's not possible to remove activation lock on newer apple devices. There are bypasses available in some specific instances, but that's not a solution for the larger problem.
This is happening to me right now. Just got a laptop from my company that previously belonged to a different employee. He reset the machine but forgot to check the box to remove activation lock and so now it's bricked 😞
Exactly I also have now, one in same condition.
Is not possible to erase all the data or bypass this condition somehow?
@luizteixeira6624 up to now, i could find nothing . Since i guess Apple is checking the id of the laptop from their database and if matched icloud account is different than the current one, then they block the laptop remotely. But instead of blocking all unmatched icloud accounts, they could have create blacklist and let users notify them if their laptop has been stolen and put their icloud and related ID of their laptop, and block laptops among black list . But that's obvious apples concern is not stolen devices , they want ppl to nit buy second hand laptops but new one .
same here…. but the disk is encrypted…. APFS … the only eay i could reach terminal is by using apples id … but my main password isnt working, and the password to decrypt Hd id never settle up… any news about this? is possible to backup the data at least? 🫥
@@luizteixeira6624 the data is typically erased, it's just activation locked.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind buying a few for cheap just for parts or to tinker with.
How much you want mine for ?
you CAN unlock them but you need to remove the chip with a heat gun and buy a chip reader to clear out the activation. you can't ever connect it to a iCloud account though or you will brick them again.
For how much you are willing to sell it?
@@publicpm8809150$
i wonder if its possible to install linux or something on these? I know there is a linux distro for m1 etc, i assume the activation lock is on the OS side, so if one installs linux, maybe it'll work?
You need to get past it to be able to boot from usb.
Edit: kinda like a bios password.
Perk is right, no other boot options are available during activation lock.
We need a good hacker. A hero like the old times when gehot jailbroken iphones in the past
Apple are still at the bottom of the ethical tree…. with a chainsaw!
That's Good for Security
I really need one of this mcbook, plz can you sell me one of this mc for 100$ I really need support for my school projects …etc
RIP M1s
a gross waste of resources actually a criminally gross waste , i was thinking of buying a new 2023 Mac Mini and now i am worried i will do something wrong and cause it to lock
Apple doesn't care what consumers think about activation lock, all they care about is, if your Mac is brick then buy a new one
Greed
it's true that we talk about securing the owners' data but is it really the main cause?
The funny part is, it has nothing to do with the owners data, because activation lock is only triggered when the device is reset.
No one from apple or those who own apple products have the right to lecture me about the environment
I cant believe no one has found a way to bypass this they would be millionaires 😂
I have a perfectly fine M1 Mac Mini, but before to sell, I reinstall the OS and woalaa "ACTIVATION LOCK" previous owner? last time when I see it was 2021 in other country... so yes... is locked. And Apple just don´t care. It's like Apple telling you "Don't you like it? So always buy a new Apple"
Well, YOU bought a used Mac with an activation lock on it. That is YOUR fault.
My remote job laid me off and said i could keep the laptop. They wiped the laptop remotely and now i cant unlock it. The apple ID is linked to a previous employee who quit 3 years ago and their email is defunct. So i lost my job and now i have an unusable laptop. (They did give me a signed letter on company letterhead stating serial number macbook xyz is being released to me.) Gonna see if apple will accept that. Otherwise my brother can have it for parts
I would ask your previous employer about it. They clearly intended to leave you with a working laptop, so if their word is good they should swap it out. It’s a common problem that a corporate laptop gets stuck on a previous employee iCloud, so the IT guy should understand what’s going on and that they gave you a bad machine.
Lol M1 Macbooks are newer and way better than the window laptop I use rn. Btw have you ever found one that isn't activation locked? Also I hope this video becomes popular and someone either makes a jailbreak for the M1 to remove activation lock if possible or Apple removes Activation lock. Fingers crossed.
some ppl who look at their iTunes accounts will remove them.. I got a few MacBook airs I was able to use again
@@zakkholder3472many people don't know or don't check this stuff. So you just waited it out to see if the lock was removed?
@@CrashCarson14 I’m going to say yes.. it’s like as soon as the item becomes “vintage” mac opens the back end.. I remember when these MacBooks 2015-2020 seemed so secure and now they don’t seem to be..
I also noticed these M1 and M2 Mac’s are not meant to be repaired.. I’m curious to see how or if Mac repairs them.. theirs things we tinker guys do apple would never… home brew battery change is my best example of this.. they replace the entire bottom metal tray battery and all..(the tinker type chisel out that battery with iso and a wedge)🤣
@@zakkholder3472 interesting. Don't think they monitored the old lock, and then unlocked it
Can’t you install Linux on them?
@@idus no, Apple Silicon presents issues as far as that goes
Can a screen from a locked 2021 macbook pro be used as a donar? Yes I have cracked my screen 😅.
Yes, but any Touch ID sensor will probably not work after.
just wanted to ask can you just replace the hard drive on the computer and will that work
@@nguyendang3194 nope like I said in the video it’s based on serial number
Hi, how help me to unlock it?
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Who else but Apple
Up today i not afford to have used m1 macbook
yep got a 2020 m1 here from a client, unfortuantly will end up in landfill
if you reset the password then you can type the computer password and unlock it
I bought a Mac M1 2020 and without knowing how it entered recoveyactivate mode, I asked Apple for support with proof that it belongs to me, I sent an invoice for my purchase, but they refused to help me, now I'm without a Mac and with twelve installments to pay, What do I do, help!
@@adrianaturela9165 you go to the seller and make them take it back. It’s against eBay policy to sell locked devices, they will back you up
@@RDKLInc I bought it on Amazon
i offer removal services..for icloud Mac 2018 and higher..
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How do you think apple got its worth? Not by reselling used product, for something that costs 100$ to produce, farrrr better to destroy than allow it to be re marketed, they will never do this. At least with pc you can just swap hard drives
My own Iphone 6 was locked because I lost my old email ID. and someone else created gamil account with same email ID which my dad used just for mandatory email login. Email id lost, apple Iphone locked forever now!
So an obvious question is . . . why not STOP ACCEPTING these new MacBooks unless there are verifiably unlocked? Unless these places e.g. schools are dumping the laptops en mass without your notice or approval, the obvious first step is not accepting the laptops and explain as to why; eventually this will filter down to the individual IT departments who will then adopt unlocking as part of their transition to new equipment upgrade protocol.
Because institutions dump millions of them to recyclers without bothering to unlock, and recyclers are lucky to fetch them and have zero leverage to put pressure on the institutions (they lose the business if they do). Even worse, institutions increasingly just prefer all of their hardware destroyed so if it being locked helps kill it all the better in their minds
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yea, this is a service that these recyclers are doing for the tech world. these will end up in refurbished items but there is so much bi-product and some of the device parts fail during transplant. it's a giant waste...
@@RDKLInc Ah, so the recyclers have not reached the point yet where they lose more money accepting than not thus continue accepting locked MacBooks. So until such a point is reached, this will continue being a problem.
Many companies are paid to handle the "disposal", and companies who pay for this service want them destroyed without having a slight idea that their data isn't that valuable or vulernable. Also many places buy these items-phones in bulk and when the user forgets to give it back clear of the Apple ID, it's bricked. Even though the user never bought it, their company did. So probably a end user problem, or needing a business license (like windows) where it may be fundamentally limited.
This is biggest apple problem, once you screwup apple id and password mine screwed up, can;t open login. I never suggest to buy apple mac book any apple device. once you paid $1200 it should be yours how you use but not once forgot password you are done,
Its typical Apple behave ! What do you expect from a company who intentionally slows down old iPhones to force consumers to buy new one. Also It is a big waste for nature .
do you sale any of those laptops
I have one for purchase. 2020 MacBook activation locked. New with box
I'm sure there will come a day when either Apple comes to their senses or a backdoor solution will become widely accessible. When that day comes, those sitting on 1,000 MacBook are in for a treat.
bravo!!! this isn't "Environmentally friendly"! apple claims to be green... ahh that's my rant... I'm a small fry collector and I have about 2 apple bricks... at this very moment, I was seeking answers and refusing to believe that I'm SOL. I even looked into T203.. but I got me a white whale M2 15' and the T2 is integrated with the M2.. thank you for making this video I really support it.. your solution of 1 Month and then unlock is brilliant !! that's how it should be
its apple you need to convince of a new way for sure and they are not about to listen even i called them today and well you can imagine that did not go well either
My old company told me to keep the macbook they gave me because it was too much trouble to get it back but it is still locked. Not sure what to do with it, should I sell for parts?
If they gave it to you then they should be happy to release the lock so you can use it
@@RDKLInc I wish, the manager let me have it but thats because they didn’t know who in IT to reach out for. It’s a massive company so I don’t even know where to start. I do have my own laptop that I’m happy with tho
I've had this same problem with about 20 iphone 5s I gotten given for free, all of them had the same activation lock and so they are effectively useless
Try submitting them for unlock with the Apple process, and put eBay as the source. A lot of people have recently reported great results with older devices, so it's totally worth a shot
The iPhone 5S is very easy to bypass. They run iOS 12 so its basically the easiest as any other one
@@RDKLInc oh thank you i will try
@@Tamay. how do you bypass them. ive tried many methods including checkrain but they never work
What's the point though? For an older phone like that? Is it still useable, or just like a media player?
This video comes over as the Vegan Teacher of macs (in a good way)
Probably done on purpose by apple, thats thousands of units that won't hit the used market and take sales away from apple. Consider all the people buying used corporate thinkpads for cheap as an example.
Why don't Apple make the computer auto-erased the contents of the computer in their computer store(s) when you show them the receipt that you legally bought it used?
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These things cost so much in my country, only rich people have them !
Does it really work?
Wild. I lost my phone once and then forgot password. Never got either back. With the amount that they can do, there's definitely a better solution. If your phone can sense that your car has been tracked by an AirTag, can sense that a watch is nearby, and things like faceid, it should be able to come with alternatives
sad how these perfectly good macbooks have to get scrapted
Oh well, at least they stopped giving us chargers to reduce ewaste eh?
You have a lot of these machines been sold on eBay right now. So the question is what do I do if I buy a used Apple laptop from ebay that is locked?
You immediately return it. It's against eBay policy to sell locked laptops. Check out my most recent video on buying used Apple devices and what you need to do to stay safe.
How much?
Is anyone talking to apple about this??
Unfortunately apples position is to not talk
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The activation lock is the very fall of apple.
We should push towards fining Apple for every single device that's locked but not stolen or lost.
There is no way to document these machines accurately in order to fine them. Most are destroyed behind the closed doors of recyclers
I'm not a red team type, but can't we flash the roms and just plan on wiping the drive after? Are we missing an unencrypted rom dump to put back in? Some of that hardware is nice enough to build from metal up IMHO. I'm not a mac guy but it'd be a nice Linux/BSD machine. FOSS community will prevail even if it takes too long 😅
I wouldn't even know where to go looking for that firmware tbh. Never done stuff like this. I've flashed roms for tiano/coreboot/etc but nothing stock lol
Apple Silicon is highly proprietary, can't do Linux
@RDKLInc Asahi Linux is in alpha and doing great so far. They have a decent team assembled from the looks of it, too. That's not the hard part. The FW will be the last domino to fall (if some wizard hasn't done it already).
Does it run natively on the computer, or in some sort of virtual machine? And will it work on an Activation Locked M1? Last I heard it could run on T2 Macs but not Apple silicon@@goofballbiscuits3647
@RDKLInc I haven't personally used it. I was given one of these FW locked macs and started researching. It looks like the same engineers who have done major reversals in the past are officially on-board. I do go to Defcon and have heard a few things that will be exciting. As of now, it's an alpha with what's built being functional. Apple added a feature to install other OSs a while ago. I was told picking the Windows install option and using a Linux/BSD iso just works. That's easy enough if you can actually unlock the device. Hell, maybe I will hop on board. Talk about a project I can get behind. I'd be a better fit for fw/bootloader reversal/development but... it takes a community! I wouldn't send these to a landfill just yet.
True.
Many many thanks 🙏 to you .
Very simple and easy way
How can i buy some?
Can these have linux installed on them instead?
any solution yet? in recovery mode, using terminal, i saw really weird stuff.. is sonoma update kinda capitalism/malware/war targeting apple silicon m chip users?
Nope
@@RDKLInc hours and hours of work … cant believe this :/
For sale ?
Help me
I know that my used Mac didn't stolen (Apple support said this to me) but they doesn't want to unlink it from account even if my Mac after the hard reset, because I don't have buying approvement. They think that MacBooks may change the owner or by stealing or by buying only.
@sharithmedinas5891 Please describe how and what exactly was did
How to unlock activation lock
Can you help me with my 2020 Mac Mini M1?
Will u buy my locked 2020 MacBook Air ,
Nope
Is there a way to unlock
Hi bro did u get any way please help me mine also 2020 macbook air m1
Is there a way to buy these macs?
There are always plenty if iCloud locked Appel devices on sale on eBay.
Idea linux
Linux will not work on Apple silicon
@@RDKLIncwhat do you do with all of the activation locked macbooks, i'm interested in getting my hands on one and getting it unlocked or installing linux to help the enviroment and get devices out of ewaste 🥰
@@RDKLInc Linux runs on Apple Silicon natively, you even have choice fedora Ubuntu ....
Install Asahi Linux?
Their are some apps that you pay to bypass your pc
There
would replacing a new board work with a non icloud lock one ?
probably but a bit pricey.
Yes it will. I've done it
Companies should be scored by repairability index of their products instead of DEI index when weighing in for finance. The culture of repairability (reuse) is being replaced by these monopolistic practices.
But do you really think a repairability score is going to prevent anyone buying Apple? I sure don’t
@@RDKLInc Yeah. You are right. I was thinking from investors perspective but now realize that such a score is not going to stop an investor from buying Apple stock either. Only a regulation that allows government to charge higher taxes for lower repairability score would be 'heard'. EU did achieve this, but only for usb-c enforcement.
those solutions are well intentioned, but they involve a mindboggling amount of government control and bureaucracy. Best thing we can do is sue these companies for violations of our property rights
@@RDKLInchow do i buy some
How does an M1 Macbook Pro get into Activation lock? Is this an OS glitch?
Watch the video. Institutions dump them to recyclers without logging out iCloud
@@RDKLInc I don't use iCloud and had no idea having not logged out of an iCloud account can lock a Macbook.
@@swordfish1120 neither do most people unfortunately
@RDKLInc hey man I bought a used Mac pro m2 and I think it's stolen, I'm afraid it will lock soon...how do I know if that's gonna happen? What happens if I erase the device, will it lock?? How many different locks are there on these new macs?? Please help
If you think it's stolen, return it @@cryptofitness1376
When I traded in my m1 macbook air, it was actually a bit of a headache to deal with because they had me do the remote wipe instead of logging out, so I had to get to a second computer to release it.
Who is they? I mean, you can disconnect from iCloud and then do a restore in recovery mode on any Mac, and that takes care of it. But I agree, it's not at all an obvious or straightforward process. That doesn't excuse people for not doing it, but the bad design is definitely a huge part of the problem, and that's on Apple.
@@RDKLInc They being a campus Apple authorized retailer. They didn't do a good job of communicating what needed to be done to make a successful trade-in, making the process a total headache.
What if they steal your mac? Wouldn’t he wanted to be locked?
That's what Activation Lock is for -- watch the video, I talk about these things
This need to change. Apple is all about the environment...
dude no i have bought a brand new one and it is activation locked... what can I do😢😢😢😢
In Pakistan, A guy is selling mdm locked MacBook pro 2021 model (m1 pro chip). He bypassed it through a software. Now he is selling it on a very cheap rate. Should i buy this MacBook? He gave me surity that it will never make a problem untill i reset it (then i have to bypass it again & it tooks 15 minutes to bypass).
I want to use it only for video editing and google, RUclips etc
I don't want to use icloud I don't have any secret data
100% fake.
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MORE click bait to monatize on RUclips ......... how about some solutions ???
There isn't one or unlikely anyone except Apple. Would you have one to share?
Hah, yeah right, like it pays to post this. Solution is in the video, try watching it
@@RDKLInc Great stuff, good to know too.
@@RDKLInccan I install Linux instead?
@@richardc5100 nope, chips proprietary. Plus lock doesn’t allow boot from external devices
I baught a 2020 MacBook Air 8gig with 256 gig for $200 , it shows activate Mac but if I try to activate it comes up as lock and asks for email and password login . 😢not sure what to do at this point
Bro how do I know if the new Mac pro I bought is gonna lock? I think mine is stolen... the seller gave red flags... butni bought it
I battled with the same issue but techdomercado on lg helped fixed mine
this gave me shivers, this is video is a amazing display of proprietary technology and its consequences.
STANLEYTECHIE
Ok, so no solution, you are just making a video telling something that we already know. Thanks!
Don’t be a jackass. You might know, but 99% of people don’t.