Snake-Eye Completely Destroyed YCS Indy..This Format Is Cooked (What The Heck Happened)

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Комментарии • 397

  • @JuwanBuchanan
    @JuwanBuchanan 2 месяца назад +173

    The banlist did exactly what it was supposed to do…sell more product.

    • @nikoprower32
      @nikoprower32 2 месяца назад +9

      I was gonna say absolutely nothing, but yeah that too

    • @zzZDarKCroWZzz
      @zzZDarKCroWZzz 2 месяца назад +4

      Yup, i understand them not wanting to hit the core strategy this early as players spent a lot of money on it but cmon best they could do was a scapegoat linkuriboh ban? At least pretend they care about game balance and semi a card or 2 like ocg did.

    • @mihawk7835
      @mihawk7835 2 месяца назад +6

      But according to people and youtubers banning barron and savage would fix everything 😂

    • @jay8443
      @jay8443 2 месяца назад

      How does the ban list sell more product? (sorry new to all this)

    • @vladr.9191
      @vladr.9191 2 месяца назад

      linkuriboh was definetly the problem...

  • @spicymemes7458
    @spicymemes7458 2 месяца назад +60

    I haven't thought of a single ban list as anything other than a vehicle to sell products since 2012. Nobody should be banking on a ban list to end formats anymore. It usually means there is another one to exploit right around the corner.

    • @Greg501-
      @Greg501- 2 месяца назад +3

      Like new FTKs in INFO

    • @dariuspenner2528
      @dariuspenner2528 2 месяца назад

      SE didn’t change at all with LEDE and likely won’t change with the new fiend link stuff. Yes it represents a 1 card SE combo, but so does Ash, which the deck can fetch with the Diabellstar engine and Bonfire, so a quarter of your deck can fetch the card. Consistently isn’t an issue. If anything, the minimal hits to SE are doing the opposite because none of the new stuff is good enough to replace SE. That’s the opposite of pushing product.

    • @thekittenfreakify
      @thekittenfreakify 2 месяца назад

      FTK'S mean jack this era.

  • @vanguardRailgun924
    @vanguardRailgun924 2 месяца назад +76

    That YCS was such a joke…..more proof the last ban list did nothing to solve the actual problem and actually made it worse.
    At least we got funny memes like Double Nightmare lock and crossout designator on skill drain.

    • @spicymemes7458
      @spicymemes7458 2 месяца назад +26

      The ban list did exactly what it was designed to do: sell more product

    • @apoocumber4164
      @apoocumber4164 2 месяца назад +1

      Format isnt that bad

    • @jimimcmahon4522
      @jimimcmahon4522 2 месяца назад

      You must be new to the game yes?

    • @nigamnation
      @nigamnation 2 месяца назад

      ​@@spicymemes7458What product is it selling? Snake eye dominating is not good for LEDE and INFO sales lol

    • @vanguardRailgun924
      @vanguardRailgun924 2 месяца назад +4

      @@jimimcmahon4522 No I’ve been around for years buddy since mid Zexal Era

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. 2 месяца назад +37

    Honestly this is what the game State is when you had a diverse format but had some pro players complaining that they didn't know how to fight against unknown decks! I have no sympathy for any of them because now you got Snake eyes this and Snake eyes that! Enjoy your predictable pie 🥧!!!

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 2 месяца назад +1

      Evidence?
      Otherwise copium.

    • @worthywill9294
      @worthywill9294 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@soukenmarufwt5224literally videos in this channel and well as posts online.
      Now I think k the REST OF THE COMMUNITY shouldn't suffer for ish takes, but....

    • @darknessnaxxion
      @darknessnaxxion 2 месяца назад +14

      @@soukenmarufwt5224Pro players prefer Tier0 because of the quote on quote: skill level and lack of unfair matches.
      Meot people, like myself prefer diverse formats.

    • @xXNeoNashXx
      @xXNeoNashXx 2 месяца назад +1

      I really would of loved to of seen mathmech, full power race and unchained play in this format. This shit is so fucking boring. I roll my eyes everytime i have to verse it too now

    • @OseiTheWarriors
      @OseiTheWarriors 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@soukenmarufwt5224it's not copium pro players were complaining about diverse formats with some even wishing for Tear 0 over it some dude made a video about it that went viral-ish, and I think Pak said something similar

  • @Magician2086
    @Magician2086 2 месяца назад +28

    I still find incredible that even tought there are some really good decks like Voiceless Voice, Tempai, Branded, Melodious, Yubel, etc and yet Snake-Eye still stomps everything. It's time Konami does something, tier 0 is never a good thing.

    • @VictorFC
      @VictorFC 2 месяца назад +2

      The deck has no lock, has 12 one card startes and immense space for techs. No other deck is better in any of these points.

    • @mrharvy100
      @mrharvy100 2 месяца назад

      Yes they are all good. They are not good as current full power SE. In TCG SE is currently the blatantly best deck at full power. It’s too consistent, multiple 1 card combo routes, zero locks, they can search any level 1 fire, and GY is a disruption pile on top of what else they have in hand + field. They also do their same combo during your turn if you’re unlucky enough to go 2nd and didn’t draw two handtraps.

  • @SolidusBR
    @SolidusBR 2 месяца назад +80

    Linkuriboh died for nothing. 😭

    • @rodeofrancisco6130
      @rodeofrancisco6130 2 месяца назад +3

      On god

    • @jamespolk6146
      @jamespolk6146 2 месяца назад +6

      Apparently it enables all Level 1 monsters to be dodged from Hand Traps like Imperm or Veiler. That's why Linkuriboh had to go.

    • @darknessnaxxion
      @darknessnaxxion 2 месяца назад

      No, just not enough with it.

    • @rodeofrancisco6130
      @rodeofrancisco6130 2 месяца назад +2

      @@jamespolk6146 I play drytron. It does nothing more than make nova a better card and get an extra body for the board.

    • @some2043
      @some2043 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@jamespolk6146 the top players couldn't for their life remember linkuriboh is in grave and were imperming/veilering the lvl 1s for their search effect , and have proven that their complaints were a skill issue

  • @AussieRiolu447
    @AussieRiolu447 2 месяца назад +9

    This is Snake-Eye's 8th consecutive YCS win in the TCG, breaking the previous record of 7 with Tearlaments.

  • @vm141789
    @vm141789 2 месяца назад +60

    The last time I liked Snake Eyes, I was playing Monopoly.

    • @DetectorCliche
      @DetectorCliche 9 дней назад

      Until you rolled it 3 times is a row.

  • @isaiah1738
    @isaiah1738 2 месяца назад +31

    I dont mind powercreep but it is kind of crazy weve gone from spright to tear to kash to this and now it might be fiendsmith next the unchained race meta was perfect its better when multiple decks are good like toss format

    • @randomuserinfinity8600
      @randomuserinfinity8600 2 месяца назад +5

      Bro, you just made me shed a few tears..., i miss AGOV format(and even the mzmi pre phni one), already feels like ages

    • @acasualgameryt6978
      @acasualgameryt6978 2 месяца назад +1

      I can't believe we went from Bologna format to this. More than 12 handtraps wasn't even the norm back then and now Snake-eye and many more decks like it (Tenpai) are filled with 20 handtraps.

    • @isaiah1738
      @isaiah1738 2 месяца назад +1

      @@randomuserinfinity8600 format was so good that people were saying there's to much diversity like what

  • @lilpotayto
    @lilpotayto 2 месяца назад +12

    "Labrynth might be the best deck to take on Snake Eyes."
    Me, a Labrynth player, beaten and bloodied on the floor after being whooped by SE 0-4 at locals: "Y-yeah... Haah... Don't worry guys... I got this...."

  • @dr.c6260
    @dr.c6260 2 месяца назад +116

    No I don’t like snake eye

    • @vanguardRailgun924
      @vanguardRailgun924 2 месяца назад +9

      Snake-Eye is the first deck I genuinely hate and its players are just as obnoxious.

    • @FallenStarPunk
      @FallenStarPunk 2 месяца назад

      ​@@vanguardRailgun924 I agree.

    • @jtalkalot19
      @jtalkalot19 2 месяца назад

      What tier 1 deck do you like?

    • @dr.c6260
      @dr.c6260 2 месяца назад +3

      @@jtalkalot19 I like a lot of tier 1 decks from previous formats, most of them really. I even liked dragon rulers and nekroz, but snake eyes is a frustrating deck to play with and against even as an engine

    • @jtalkalot19
      @jtalkalot19 2 месяца назад

      @dr.c6260 Okay. That's fair. I don't consider snake eyes to be worse than rulers or nekroz at their peak. I consider snake eyes to be like playing against Zoo in late 2016. Deck was very strong but beatable.

  • @Jianichie
    @Jianichie 2 месяца назад +28

    "If not; to Hell with you."
    Well, alright then. 😢

  • @Clonekiller66
    @Clonekiller66 2 месяца назад +12

    I don't have any witty or snarky comments to make. I just really really hate Tier 0 formats and I hate how Snake-Eyes requires you to have 4+ hand traps in your opening hand to actually stand a chance.

  • @oppenheimergamer
    @oppenheimergamer 2 месяца назад +38

    You forgot to mention the tinfoil playmat

    • @artenitalewis1541
      @artenitalewis1541 2 месяца назад +8

      MBT Gaming

    • @vanguardRailgun924
      @vanguardRailgun924 2 месяца назад +8

      Let the tinfoil playmat guy cook.

    • @DragonWaffleX
      @DragonWaffleX 2 месяца назад +6

      ​@@vanguardRailgun924I'm sure he went to a BBQ at the end of the event.

    • @Zambles
      @Zambles 2 месяца назад +1

      LITTERAL tinfoil?

  • @the199dirtrider
    @the199dirtrider 2 месяца назад +53

    3 tier zero formats in less than 3 years?

    • @darknessnaxxion
      @darknessnaxxion 2 месяца назад +6

      3? You mean 2?

    • @looneyloonatic
      @looneyloonatic 2 месяца назад +4

      @@darknessnaxxiontear Kash snake eye

    • @darknessnaxxion
      @darknessnaxxion 2 месяца назад +11

      @@looneyloonatic Kash, as a player for it, never hit tier 0 (it was close).
      I’d consider it, since it’s one of my favorite decks, but I’ve never seen anyone actually say it was truly.

    • @thejankenthusiast1285
      @thejankenthusiast1285 2 месяца назад +2

      @@darknessnaxxion Two Formats in a row is Snake-Eyes tier 0

    • @N12015
      @N12015 2 месяца назад

      Which is the 3rd one? I guess spright in the OCG was a tier 0 deck, but in the TCG there were only 2.

  • @odd-eyesdragoon
    @odd-eyesdragoon 2 месяца назад +16

    I’m just gonna play WATER Xyz once “Rage of the Abyss” comes out.

  • @cyberdragon1339
    @cyberdragon1339 2 месяца назад +10

    One of the big issues I'm seeing is that outside of labrynth, there's nothing that is eye-opening enough for these top players. HERO, Melodious, Salamangreat, and Branded all have their ability to combat this deck. Unfortunately, this game is a 2-3 turn format where you need to build a board or else you get fucked. INFO is gonna shake up the format definitely with Fiendsmith, Gimmick Puppet, and maybe White Woods. The year of fire might come to a close, but it's at the cost of the format being an FTK format.

    • @darkmagicianfan3423
      @darkmagicianfan3423 2 месяца назад

      Fiendsmith snake-eye is really good… 😬

    • @cyberdragon1339
      @cyberdragon1339 2 месяца назад

      @darkmagicianfan3423 I'm not discounting that. I'm just praying to the gods that we get a good banlist before INFO releases

  • @shuckeegaming
    @shuckeegaming 2 месяца назад +8

    The bad part is Konami just announced Ash will be in the 2025 tournament packs, which you KNOW they'll make it an ulti. Count that card out being banned for a while longer.

    • @worthywill9294
      @worthywill9294 2 месяца назад +3

      I mean banning flamberge and/or poplar is still a move

    • @silvermushroom-gamifyevery6430
      @silvermushroom-gamifyevery6430 2 месяца назад +1

      Hopefully popular, since Flambridge was around before the the deck got stupid.

  • @randommaster06
    @randommaster06 2 месяца назад +5

    I can't wait for Konami to power creep the game and we start calling Snake Eye too low-power and inconsistent for the new meta.

  • @d.r.6177
    @d.r.6177 2 месяца назад +3

    Building and theory crafting snake-eye decks is so much fun and skill intensive.
    It is so sas to see it break down to hand trap wars...
    I hope something will be done against it, but I am also very happy that Baronne and co are gone!

  • @supervanadazol8197
    @supervanadazol8197 2 месяца назад +15

    Um.... The city that's shown is not Indianapolis... Its Philadelphia. Center City (downtown) to be exact. I'm from Philly and recognized it instantly.

    • @allthatishere
      @allthatishere 2 месяца назад

      Philadelphia has that exact same building/layout.

    • @drewtoya8015
      @drewtoya8015 2 месяца назад +2

      I'm from Indy and I knew it wasn't Indy instantly lmao

  • @Maxst33le
    @Maxst33le 2 месяца назад +15

    I hate snake eyes in masterduel

  • @Trekkie46
    @Trekkie46 2 месяца назад +7

    I'm not sure what's more annoying. Another Tier 0 deck that laughs at the ban list or that the second best is Lab.

  • @Syncrafter
    @Syncrafter 2 месяца назад +3

    I keep seeing people saying Apo/I:P and other strong generic ED monsters should be banned. No it is definitely not the newly released overpowered archetypes which can run 20 HTs, that have 15 one card starters, out of which 10 are extenders and most have a recursion effect, that are the problem. If somebody told me 2 years ago that linkuriboh is a problematic card I would have thought that the person is on drugs.
    Oh yeah and don't forget to ban all the newly affordable cards.

    • @nearn8517
      @nearn8517 2 месяца назад +1

      Generic ED monsters like those two aren’t healthy long term. There’s no doubt that tier 0’Snake Eye is the problem, but those cards restrict card design and gameplay.

    • @MrJuan_Vzla
      @MrJuan_Vzla 2 месяца назад

      It doesn't matter if these cards are banned, old decks will still not be competitive.

  • @Promin3nce
    @Promin3nce 2 месяца назад +2

    Even though snake eyes isn't as oppressive as other Tier 0 decks were, we absolutely need an emergency banlist - and we needed it yesterday.
    As you are reading this konami should be already posting it. That is how critical it is.

  • @lokitired3751
    @lokitired3751 2 месяца назад +2

    Something I just wanna say is I hate how a lot of people in social media were complaing about SE and stating that Tear was less of a problem.
    Tear was just as oppressive as SE is to any other non Tear deck, sure there was more interactive gameplay in the mirror matches but it doesnt mean it was any less fun for somebody playing any other deck. I guess what Im trying to say is SE, Tear and tier 0 formats arent fun and comparing which one was less oppressive is like comparing apples and oranges.
    I hope they just ban some key cards of SE or unban Kash/Tear cards so I stop seeing people complain about SE

    • @worthywill9294
      @worthywill9294 2 месяца назад +2

      I'd prefer the former....
      Honestly, tier zero decks DESERVE to be hit rather hard

  • @Jaganphotos
    @Jaganphotos 2 месяца назад +2

    I’m fairly confident we’re getting a mini banlist at the end of the month at the earliest (read: before WCQ). Snake-eyes wrecking most other decks is crazy already - making Fiendsmith legal the day of the event is where I’m like “nah hit the deck.”

  • @Gucci.Clone253
    @Gucci.Clone253 2 месяца назад +6

    This is the third tier 0 format in a row. I think if they do one more this game is gonna see some serious decline

    • @dariuspenner2528
      @dariuspenner2528 2 месяца назад +1

      Even if you’re counting pre and post-ban list SE as 2 separate formats for some reason, it hasn’t been 3 in a row. The format preceding the first tier 0 SE format was AGOV format, which was insanely diverse. The last tier 0 deck we had before SE was Ishizu Tear. Nothing else we had since made the long established tier 0 threshold of 65% or more of top cut

  • @rolodwayne5841
    @rolodwayne5841 2 месяца назад +3

    We went from tier 0 to tier 0 to tier 0 wth

  • @alphonse2234
    @alphonse2234 2 месяца назад +16

    How is this game still alive? Hasn’t it been “killed” so many times?

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 2 месяца назад +7

      Click bait
      Copium
      Casuals don't support this game anyway
      OCG had way worse even before TCG was created list goes on.
      Elites will keep Going no matter what. Knowing full well Konami doesn't care about their IPs. Either support or join the graveyard along its other dead ips

    • @allthatishere
      @allthatishere 2 месяца назад +5

      Nothing truly dies, man.

    • @CelestialDeathscythe
      @CelestialDeathscythe 2 месяца назад +2

      Zombie Master & baledroch keep it alive aided by the waifu taxes sucked out of the players

    • @David-hw9si
      @David-hw9si 2 месяца назад +2

      the vocal people that whines about this game are the ones that spend 20 dollars a month on it and then want everything reprinted to the ground, or every expensive deck burned down.
      SE 100% need a significant nerf, but the amount of ignorance people have when talking about that deck, as well as most meta decks, is just baffling.

    • @MrJuan_Vzla
      @MrJuan_Vzla 2 месяца назад +1

      This game won't die because players never stop playing it.
      Even people who have "quit" still have some decks, play online, or watch content.
      Most return when their favorite decks gets support.

  • @TheMeetymeet
    @TheMeetymeet 2 месяца назад +5

    Though I am happy they went for the ED monsters, I'm pretty sure a lot of players knew SE was still a problem. Just go for Poplar and call it a day, really. It's where it all started, right?

  • @lordofthered1257
    @lordofthered1257 2 месяца назад +4

    Cap G are you working on a yugioh story video? Those are your best and most entertaining videos. Thanks.

  • @nickolasberrian9565
    @nickolasberrian9565 2 месяца назад +4

    Who would have thought the first time they give fire something it completely blows up everything

    • @artificerprime4154
      @artificerprime4154 2 месяца назад

      That tends to happen when you have zero actual restrictions on the FIRE support in an era where you have plenty of powerful generic Extra Deck monsters. Promethean Princess only locks you into FIRE while she's out on the field, but Links being what they are, that's trivial to get past. None of the Snake-Eye cards lock you into FIRE at all, so of course they'd be used for generic Extra Deck spam like I:P and Apo.

    • @nickolasberrian9565
      @nickolasberrian9565 2 месяца назад

      @artificerprime4154 pretty much if they had the restriction of only summoning fire monsters for the rest of the turn, I don't think they would be as strong honestly.

  • @derekfreiley7980
    @derekfreiley7980 2 месяца назад +3

    I waited for years for Fire to be a good attribute :( this isn’t what I wanted

  • @youwayo
    @youwayo 2 месяца назад +5

    Time to start using Barrier Statue if the Torrent

    • @guiguithebeast
      @guiguithebeast 2 месяца назад

      and for it to be banned next banlist , because konami will remove that floodgate too

  • @PaperYGO
    @PaperYGO 2 месяца назад +3

    I took snake eye to a regional a couple weeks ago and topped after literally one night of practice. Every game felt like I had 10 more cards than my opponent. The deck is too free and needs multiple hits.

  • @CobaltAxeldragon
    @CobaltAxeldragon 2 месяца назад +8

    Ban every single Snake-Eyes card on sight. Ban every last one of them. Justice for Baronne.

    • @guiguithebeast
      @guiguithebeast 2 месяца назад +2

      and for savage

    • @moonjelly5
      @moonjelly5 2 месяца назад

      ​@@guiguithebeastSavage was even more unjustified.

    • @artificerprime4154
      @artificerprime4154 2 месяца назад

      And then what? We get to see Baronne, Savage, Apo, and so on splashed in a future Tier 0 deck? Is it really that difficult to understand that powerful generic Extra Deck negates is its own issue separate from the specific degenerate deck using them? Yes, Snake-Eyes should be hit hard at this point, but Snake-Eyes is a symptom of a much bigger problem with the game, which is insane power creep and Konami using the banlist to push product.

  • @jaredricci9278
    @jaredricci9278 2 месяца назад +12

    Wait if they dont take care if things fiendsmith snake eyes gonna be even worse

    • @kish45
      @kish45 2 месяца назад +3

      What about if Konami started doing something for their banlist similar to what Digimon did for theirs? Basically Digimon has a banned pair section that has 2 components A and B and if a deck is using cards from A then they can’t use cards from B. So say for example Snake Eyes was component A and Fiendsmith is component B that would mean a deck that is using SE can’t use the Fiendsmith cards.

    • @sallas09
      @sallas09 2 месяца назад +3

      @@kish45 I think this is such a cool evolution for the game and I really want them to implement it.

    • @stonalisa3729
      @stonalisa3729 2 месяца назад +1

      Thats just the Duel Links banlist​@kish45

    • @kish45
      @kish45 2 месяца назад +1

      @@stonalisa3729 Nope it’s a completely different thing.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 2 месяца назад

      ​@@kish45 That being said, we could apply the duel links ban format for the extra deck so you are actually limited in what you can play.

  • @lordofthered1257
    @lordofthered1257 2 месяца назад +1

    I have got to be honest I am just playing decks I love, like labyrinth, eldlich, and branded, with friends, and old formats like Yata, Goat, Perfect Circle, YCS Long Beach, and 2016 Monarch PK Fire, and TOSS.
    The best thing about old formats is that none of the cards are getting banned and once you have a decent card pool you don't need to buy more.

  • @nikoprower32
    @nikoprower32 2 месяца назад +2

    Gee... Konami made an extremely overpowered and versatile archetype... What did yall think was gonna happen. This is why they need to go ahead and ban or limit Snake Eye... like now.

  • @nearn8517
    @nearn8517 2 месяца назад +1

    BAN:
    • Snake-Eye Ash
    • Apollousa, Bow of the Goddess
    • I:P Masquerena
    • Promethean Princess
    Limit:
    • Bonfire
    • WANTED: Seeker of Sinful Spoils

    • @FrkXJ6
      @FrkXJ6 2 месяца назад

      ☠️

  • @jackych3n
    @jackych3n 2 месяца назад +4

    Wish they featured more time wizard content. Hoping for another banlist before nats.

  • @artenitalewis1541
    @artenitalewis1541 2 месяца назад +4

    Why and how did they kinna handle the snake eye problem better in MASTER DUEL?

  • @skiletkilla
    @skiletkilla 2 месяца назад +5

    I can't wait for the next banlist where they ban tenpai and voiceless cards

    • @reddragonstudios1
      @reddragonstudios1 2 месяца назад

      Why would they ban Tenpai? Its doing whats supposed to be doing, OTK, you jsut dont like the deck

    • @skiletkilla
      @skiletkilla 2 месяца назад +3

      @@reddragonstudios1 it was sarcasm bud

  • @mrevilducky
    @mrevilducky 2 месяца назад +4

    I love smoking snake eye hash

  • @CrisisCore62
    @CrisisCore62 2 месяца назад +1

    The way to hit Snake eyes:
    Put flamberge to 1
    So oak does'nt summon the second flamberge from the deck or hand
    Also i was watching the ycs on Joshua Schmidt's Twitch live with farfa, Joshua Schmidt and everybody from the twich
    And it was funny seing all the mirror matches and everybody getting tired of Snake eyes 😂

  • @mageface2815
    @mageface2815 2 месяца назад +4

    Can we start a petition please to make toons relevant and at least half decent in the meta, not asking for much

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 2 месяца назад

      Petitions never work, neve have. Anyone that believes otherwise never worked at a real company or corporation.
      The only way toons will ever be beyond casual tier is remaking them and scraping their gimmick.

    • @mageface2815
      @mageface2815 2 месяца назад +1

      @@soukenmarufwt5224 Ohh 100% man you've got better luck winning with a starter deck, I just love the old school decks and cards too much and wish they were more viable in modern duels

    • @reddragonstudios1
      @reddragonstudios1 2 месяца назад

      You want to make Toons relevant? Give it a new Level 4 that has added protection for Toons, on top of giving them effects that just dont include attacking directly or banishing but rather disrupts the opponent

  • @nbonasoro
    @nbonasoro 2 месяца назад +10

    I dont understand the people saying snake eye cards need to be banned. The issues are: IP, skill drain, princess, and apo. Ban those cards and snake eye is just like any other link spam deck. Anything harder just destroys the deck.
    What would the hits need to be? Access to ash would need to be less consistent so you need to limit: bonfire, wanted, witch, ash, field spell, and oss. The card is so searchable that as soon as you touch 1 card that searches it, the others become played in more copies in each decklist. Lets say you limit ash, the decks just play 3 oak and a fiendsmith engine to make beatrice to dump the ash so oak can revive. Are we going to ban beatrice and oak too?

    • @adragonssoul5200
      @adragonssoul5200 2 месяца назад

      Just ban Snake-Eye Ash directly, none of those are possible otherwise. Also no, deck isn't dead, Poplar can still do a 1-card combo, however its significantly weaker. (At least I wish they'd do that but the OTS reprint says otherwise, so Flamberge likely will die.)

    • @nbonasoro
      @nbonasoro 2 месяца назад +2

      @@adragonssoul5200 Then rank 4 engines like melodious make infernal flame banshee to search poplar. Poplar will need to be banned too. At that point is it even a snake eyes deck anymore?

    • @h3llg3ar
      @h3llg3ar 2 месяца назад +1

      Ash just got an ulti revealed in the next OTS, so fall will be the best time to expect an actual hit to the deck. So start learning how to make your Rogue decks busted AF, because everyone will burn off the dice until the fall 🎲

    • @adragonssoul5200
      @adragonssoul5200 2 месяца назад

      @@nbonasoro Ash Oak Summoning Flamberge gg? Without Snake-Eye Ash that deck becomes absurdly fragile to handtraps, which would be the point.
      As I said though OTS reprint they're just gonna kill Flamberge, if you wanna take it a step further, limit Ash, Poplar, and Wanted. I can see people demanding that tbh as a hit similar to Tear, even though I'd say its slightly extreme

    • @adragonssoul5200
      @adragonssoul5200 2 месяца назад +1

      @@h3llg3ar They can still ban Flamberge at the least, I'll be very surprised if that thing survives the next list.

  • @ImHim_BelieveIt
    @ImHim_BelieveIt 2 месяца назад +4

    imagine hitting sharv to 1 to make sure we get a T0 format

    • @lilpotayto
      @lilpotayto 2 месяца назад +6

      Sadly, even full power Unchained wouldn't have been able to compete with this. Tearlament with Kitkallos unbanned is prolly the only thing that could contend but that's an Alien vs Predator sort of situation.

    • @siphemanana2551
      @siphemanana2551 2 месяца назад +2

      @@lilpotayto if Tear got Kitkallos back. It’ll literally be Dragon Rulers vs Spellbook 2.0

    • @chewdoom8415
      @chewdoom8415 2 месяца назад

      @@siphemanana2551 Yep. Bystials are still around and the limits make them more impactful, but making reino a one card starter is enough to take the deck over the top again. The deck already got indirectly buffed due to the Banning of baronne and savage lowering the reducing the power of end boards across the board.

  • @justinpennington6680
    @justinpennington6680 2 месяца назад

    What’s funny is I’ve been not playing too seriously, I played a ton during kash and tear format. However, I’m getting back into it, so I heard all the noise regarding snake eyes. Built it on Edopro just to try it out of curiosity of how powerful it is. No shot bricked hard af on handtraps and lost to the dark magician bot💀. Didn’t draw engine for like 4-5 turns😂

  • @aceclover758
    @aceclover758 2 месяца назад +1

    Snake eyes is just too broken
    When I can have 2-3 hand traps on turn 1 and two board wipe cards on turn 2 yet they easily come back, you know it’s screwed
    I just surrender whenever someone plays it in master duel
    No point in wasting time and giving them satisfaction

  • @Byrdstar6423-un3me
    @Byrdstar6423-un3me 2 месяца назад +2

    All of these tier 0 formats all at once oh my God this game is screwed

  • @lip124
    @lip124 2 месяца назад +4

    I'm sick of snake eyes🙄🙄

  • @idkdontask7142
    @idkdontask7142 2 месяца назад

    People are ignoring the fact that hand traps are the problem because of how many of them there are. There is 3 versions of veiler that just say "negate opponent's monster". Hand traps themsleves aren't inherently a problem but when you can run over 12 of them it just becomes ridiculous. They also arent just there to "help the going 2nd player", they are additional disruptions when you go 1st.
    Every argument i see to not address the issue of hand traps is the same as i see from people defending maxx "c" but Joshua Schmidt defended hand traps which means its TOTALLY different from maxx "c" defenders.

  • @theerealatm
    @theerealatm 2 месяца назад

    I just started master duel after about a 2 year hiatus. I come back to play my heroes... And I'm like wtf is all this?! This game evolved so fast. You can Maxx c someone and they'll pass and then start special summoning hella times on YOUR turn.

  • @artificerprime4154
    @artificerprime4154 2 месяца назад

    At this juncture, Konami may need to start making hard locks more of a thing on newer decks they print going forward, especially the more potent decks. I don't mean weak locks like you can't Summon X while Y is on the field (Links invalidate that with their mechanics, as seen with Promethean Princess and Sharvara) or you can only Summon X for the rest of this turn (you can just make a bunch of plays beforehand).
    But given that they didn't put any meaningful restrictions on the Fiendsmith cards (here's hoping Snake-Eye still isn't at full power when that shows up), I have my doubts they'll do this anytime soon.

  • @DragonWaffleX
    @DragonWaffleX 2 месяца назад +3

    So does this mean this is another tier 0 format?

    • @jamespolk6146
      @jamespolk6146 2 месяца назад +1

      Yes it is.

    • @DragonWaffleX
      @DragonWaffleX 2 месяца назад +1

      @@jamespolk6146 Sads. No deck diversity makes jack a dull boy.

    • @jamespolk6146
      @jamespolk6146 2 месяца назад

      @@DragonWaffleX 65, 66% says otherwise on the representation. Sad as it is. Even with the Extra Deck hits, it didn't do enough

  • @jojomations2596
    @jojomations2596 2 месяца назад

    Seeing Kuriboh in the gy blew me away lol. That person was using the OG handtrap

  • @user-ml5xd5td6r
    @user-ml5xd5td6r Месяц назад

    Gotta love the decision making over at komoney

  • @VictorFC
    @VictorFC 2 месяца назад

    Remember that pepe was hit in like 2 weeks while zoo was around for almost a year. Its not a new thing. Emergency lists simply doesn't exist, balance hits doesn't either. Its simply "play that for 2 formats and win, then play another thing".

  • @ayzn.333
    @ayzn.333 2 месяца назад +1

    I like Fire monsters but I’ve never liked the Snake Eyes. It’s crazy how I know the combo chains despite never playing with the deck..
    I think all of the lvl 1 pyro monsters in the deck need to be limited to 2. Bonfire should also be limited to 2.

  • @christianmayonove6914
    @christianmayonove6914 2 месяца назад +1

    Yeah, you’re being way too kind here. Maybe for monetary reasons or for sponsorship on the back end, idk I’m new here. But to hear you say “this approach didn’t work” disgusted me. Of course it wouldn’t work. It’s 2024, the game is 25 years old. If you don’t think Konami knows how to make an effective banlist then you’re a fool. This banlist was 100% profit driven, and will go down as a stain in YGOs history.

  • @RogueHero
    @RogueHero 2 месяца назад +1

    YCS Indy was a blast , i just wish snake eyes wasn't so OP . The only time i lost that match up is due to either them top decking or them going 1st game 3 and i opened no hand traps.

  • @macmac6064
    @macmac6064 2 месяца назад +6

    so the game is p2w irl too

    • @soukenmarufwt5224
      @soukenmarufwt5224 2 месяца назад +1

      Always has been.
      Have you been loving under a rock?

    • @macmac6064
      @macmac6064 2 месяца назад

      @@soukenmarufwt5224 yeah

    • @duncankeary6767
      @duncankeary6767 2 месяца назад

      Pay to compete. Winning is a split of talent and lu....the heart of the cards 🤣

  • @ThesKeLeKRoN
    @ThesKeLeKRoN 2 месяца назад +1

    I can’t wait for white woods

  • @wanderlustwarrior
    @wanderlustwarrior 2 месяца назад +1

    It's almost like I was right and overpowered advantage engines are more of the issue and hitting generics disproportionately hurts rogue decks or something.
    Welp, who is ready for people to fool themselves and say The Zombie Vampire is more of a problem than the Horus cards?

    • @worthywill9294
      @worthywill9294 2 месяца назад

      I mean, two things can be true at once.....
      But ANYONE thinking banning those cards fixed SE was lying to you and themselves

  • @mrharvy100
    @mrharvy100 2 месяца назад

    Anyone with half a brain saw this coming a mile away. The problem is way too many people got hyped about “WOOHOO Barrone finally banned!” that they failed to realize
    A) SE got ZERO hits on the archetype themselves. It’s still full power unlike OCG or MD
    B) You traded two omni negate monsters for two flood monsters
    C) Linkuriboh banned would do fuck all
    2/10 score for this banlist. Cool they banned generic omni-negate, but that does fuck all for the meta when SE can easily just replace Barrone with Dis Pater lol.

  • @griffen121
    @griffen121 2 месяца назад +1

    Once gimmick puppets come out that will change

  • @darkglass3011
    @darkglass3011 2 месяца назад

    Tearlaments, Kashtira, and now Snake Eyes. 3 broken archetypes released in a row. If you have game breaking cards like these back-to-back, it will suck the fun out of playing and people will quit the game.

  • @cypherneticgaming3281
    @cypherneticgaming3281 2 месяца назад

    Like we didn't see this coming. Konami thought hitting Baronne and Savage would change things😂.

  • @maliktorihane9849
    @maliktorihane9849 2 месяца назад

    Y'know, in 2018 I left Yugioh when I realized that I wasn't having fun and that the formats always devolved into degeneracy. Here we are in the year of our Lord 2024 and literally nothing has changed.

  • @vladr.9191
    @vladr.9191 2 месяца назад +2

    "oh you play snakeeyes what a coincidence me too"
    btw snake eyes ash is getting an ulti reprint so no ban i guess

  • @DragonBallsolosyourverse
    @DragonBallsolosyourverse 2 месяца назад

    Every few months there's always some tier zero strat
    Ether
    Adamancipator
    Tearlament
    Or whatever
    Yugioh set design also encourages tier zero strats cause each deck is better then the last hence the incentive to buy new cards

  • @Kenny-md2zf
    @Kenny-md2zf 2 месяца назад +2

    In OCG Maxx C is what keep decks like snake eye in check but in TCG combo decks cannot be allowed to exist.

  • @izzadk86
    @izzadk86 2 месяца назад

    at this point, I wonder should snake eyes get the dragon rulers treatment until it gets power crept / errata

  • @Yomi2012
    @Yomi2012 2 месяца назад

    Am just going to play Bakura’s occult deck since more of his cards had been released. Hell I might add a graceful charity and pot of greed because IDC anymore am playing YGO my way. The way I grew up with

  • @frankunodostres473
    @frankunodostres473 2 месяца назад

    UMR ash though + reprints in the mega tins coming up!
    you better be prepared for a long ride :D
    the most hilarious side effect of this however is tearlaments fans come out of the woodwork saying "SEE? this tier 0 format sucks and ishizu tear was a much more skillful format! all hail kitkallos!". like stfu "who makes dweller first" wasn't fun

  • @darealwhosane
    @darealwhosane 2 месяца назад +6

    Yet another reason rolling dice in warhammer is just a better game and way cheaper and more fun to collect and build list

    • @ytsuxmuhd4998
      @ytsuxmuhd4998 2 месяца назад +4

      Pure cap & cope lmao.
      It's fine to say to each their own, but don't go touting nonsense.

    • @darealwhosane
      @darealwhosane 2 месяца назад +3

      @@ytsuxmuhd4998 a warhammer army is cheaper then a meta yugioh deck thats a fact plus you get the fun of building and painting your models plus the game is more fair with rolling dice so its facts you just dont know cause you havnt tried other games

    • @ytsuxmuhd4998
      @ytsuxmuhd4998 2 месяца назад +1

      @@darealwhosane depends what deck you're making, yes.
      Jus like it would depend what army you run.
      I know folks that regularly spend thousands on Warhammer tho,
      And I know folks that regularly spend hundreds on YGO.
      That's where my statistics come from.
      It's also why I've never gotten into Warhammer.

  • @ChampionMarx
    @ChampionMarx 2 месяца назад +1

    All the ban list did was make Snake eyes players better by forcing them to stop funneling into Baronne Savage

  • @Bushwacker1089
    @Bushwacker1089 2 месяца назад

    I didn’t even turn on the stream not once all weekend since I had a feeling of the outcome and well yeah it was expected. Sometimes we just a major change and think it’s time again

  • @jamessherman6598
    @jamessherman6598 2 месяца назад

    I just play what i enjoy.
    Lightsworn
    Zombies
    Darklord
    Skull servant
    Destiny Board
    Dark world
    Machina
    Heratic
    Limiting yourself to 1 or 2 decks because they're the best never made sense to me. The only time i remember playing anything remotely good was chaos dragons in 2012.

  • @shadowmarez7457
    @shadowmarez7457 2 месяца назад +1

    This is how card games die.

  • @MerlinCross13
    @MerlinCross13 2 месяца назад

    It's a very consistent deck that puts up a lot of interaction that isn't just 'negate fields' through some of the most regular hand traps short of getting hit by 4 of them or so end enough room to play all those hand traps. And can play/recycle stuff during the other player's turn.
    The perfect deck the community has be asking for and been trying to build. WHY are you complaining now when you have the deck of your dreams? Besides the price that is. This is LITERALLY what the community has been striving for and now they suddenly don't want it? Bunk. Eat you food you've been wanting for the last 15 years.

  • @user-em6iu8ej3c
    @user-em6iu8ej3c 2 месяца назад

    Sad Tenpai doesn't seem to affect TCG. They really love going first there😢

  • @Leonardo-ms2nk
    @Leonardo-ms2nk 2 месяца назад +1

    This game is a joke , no one regrets about quitting

  • @glitchmakerygo
    @glitchmakerygo 2 месяца назад

    My problem with hitting ONLY staples from the extra decks is that it hits other decks just as hard and there are always more options.
    And then what's next? Ban those options until the only options left are functionally vanillas with utility effects?
    Obviously Snake-Eyes will just go down the list of staples and eventually transition from a combo to a control deck. Once SE is done and over with, a new deck with one boss that's a bit too strong is gonna take over completely as Konami has kinda been building the game around the fact that these generic extra deck staples exist in the first place.
    The game is broken and Konami has only been applying band-aid fixes and now once one problem is removed, there can and there will be more that come from it.

  • @TDZ__1
    @TDZ__1 2 месяца назад +1

    I liked this ycs best deck is best deck can’t wait for skill drain limit next 😏 skilled mirror matches are fun toxic mirror matches are bad

  • @chopperisnotawarcriminal
    @chopperisnotawarcriminal 2 месяца назад

    Superheavy Samurai Orcust, really?? Anyone knows where I can see the list, I really need it 🙏✨

  • @level3xfactor
    @level3xfactor 2 месяца назад +1

    meta is terrible, prizing sucks, Konami really out here making people rethink why they are even playing their game in the first place.

  • @Kenny-md2zf
    @Kenny-md2zf 2 месяца назад

    Isn’t this what all the pro players want? A format where everyone play roughly the same deck with not much variation?

  • @alexanderbatterbee8369
    @alexanderbatterbee8369 2 месяца назад +5

    Free savage

  • @DestroAzureDx
    @DestroAzureDx 2 месяца назад

    I remember getting blasted in online spaces for saying this deck would ruin and overflood the game until it gets hit hard

  • @happygenerously6008
    @happygenerously6008 2 месяца назад

    Aaaaand thats why im taking a Break and going to play Pokémon.

  • @jonanderirureta8331
    @jonanderirureta8331 2 месяца назад

    If you ban OSS people who build the Wanted package are gonna be mad. What about banning Ash or Oak, would the deck be still the best?

  • @williamseignious3432
    @williamseignious3432 2 месяца назад

    When can we get another 3/4 deck format?

  • @fateric007
    @fateric007 2 месяца назад +6

    Hopefully this deck gets crucified on the next list.

    • @jimimcmahon4522
      @jimimcmahon4522 2 месяца назад

      It won't. Cry more though

    • @glitchmakerygo
      @glitchmakerygo 2 месяца назад +1

      Most of us wish.
      But it won't, SnAsh was confirmed for an OTS ultimate rare.

  • @MetafyCorey
    @MetafyCorey 2 месяца назад

    You should be on Metafy!

  • @CelestialDeathscythe
    @CelestialDeathscythe 2 месяца назад

    More of the same. They will kill snake eyes once they've made all of their money in record profits. Meanwhile we suffer alongside linkuriboh. Once the eyes are closed and dead a new overlord will rise,as has been the norm of this game for centuries.

  • @ImHim_BelieveIt
    @ImHim_BelieveIt 2 месяца назад

    komoney seeing snake eyes T0 before synchro build.
    Hmmm recently its making synchros, lets ban them.
    Snake eyes : ok ill just play how i was before we made synchros...

  • @cosmicfab7874
    @cosmicfab7874 2 месяца назад +1

    This is why i didn't liked the previous list
    It did so much
    Yet it did nothing
    Nothing at all

    • @moonjelly5
      @moonjelly5 2 месяца назад +1

      It did kill off the mid-tier/budget decks that relied on Barrone/Savage to protect their cards like Swordsoul and Dinosaur so that's something, I guess.