Looks like I would expect not sure how in the world of physics this tang is a con or a weak spot. Good for them for taking the extra step to cut weight. Zero negative aspect here what so ever pure pro and dedication to a nice knife.
I’m an Engineer and that is a truss web design, which is the same engineering we design/construct web trusses for commercial & industrial buildings, such as large clear span sporting arenas. Nothing weak or defective about this design.
People don't know, but many of their favorite close to indestructible full tang knives are heavily skeletonized under the handles. If the edges and corners are properly rounded then it's not a weakpoint in the slightest.
@Totemparadox yeah and the skeletonized handles don't necessarily mean lesser strength but some people are surprised when they aren't solid pieces of steel underneath.
Thanks for the disassembly. Hopefully from the skeletonisation the whole knife is balanced. Oooo, I can’t wait for the boys from Dutch Bushcraft Knives to do their testing on this knife. 😁😁
The skeletonisation isn’t necessarily a weak point, look at how much material there is still on the handle side, also a lot of people don’t think about that the G10 is very strong and it can add strength to the handle, because for the handle to actually break, the g10 has to break as well. The G10 will also absorb shock as well. You have absolutely nothing to worry about. If you ever have seen the destruction video of the Glock field knife videos, that thing doesn’t even have a tang, and the reason it is so strong is because it has a tube shaped polymer handle that is made of Glock proprietary polymer that is known to be nearly indestructible. The tang of the knife isn’t the only thing that keeps a knife strong, now for this knife you have a 3v handle that is sandwiched with 2 slabs of G10, the handle is the last thing you should worry about.
I feel like the weight vs strength is a big deal for a lot of people that might carry a knife like this. Military, hunting, backpacking. Weight matters
Thanks so much for the disassembly, as I was curious as well. Love the design, and that it is balanced. The angles of the skeleton cuts are correct. If y’all think this is a weak spot, study bridge construction. Just ordered from Gil, maybe this exact piece!
IT never ceases to amaze me regarding Cyber commando giving there 10 cents worth backed up by nearly no experience . The NUT in that handle idea was coped from a knife made over 20 years ago called the Chunky Monkey made by Wilkins knives and Jordan Knife design collaboration . The buttcap slot is coped from the Raptor Buttcap made some 15 years ago made by Jordan knife design and Templar - knives . As to the comment regarding the void space in the Handle makes it weak . The thickness of the tang and the distance from the edge to the slot is wider than the Thickness . This was done entirely to get the near centre balance . I would like to see the TEST where the handle Tang snaps because of this Cyber commando idea its weak . That construction will take a lot of use . The two holes in the tang are for wrapping para cord around the handle in some situations . The stainless blade makes it a good choice for wet conditions . One big problem is the rattling Kydex sheath it comes with , that needs addressing for combat carry .
One piece of information that you got entirely wrong is when you stated that the blade of this knife is " Stainless " when 3V barely qualifies as a " Semi-stainless " steel. The formula for CPM3V contains 7.5% Chromium and what boosts it's minimal corrosion resistance is that when heat treated correctly the Vanadium in the formula forms into Vanadium carbides which provide the bulk of 3V's edge retention and fortunately because Vanadium carbides form at a lower temperature than Chromium carbides do it means that there's more free Chromium left in solution in the steel matrix which means that a passive layer of corrosion resistance is provided. For a steel to be classified as " Stainless " it needs to have a minimum of 12% Chromium in its formula. Other than that small mistake your breakdown of the knifes construction and your details about this knife models comparable predecessors was incredibly interesting indeed, well done, 👌🏻🤝🏻.
I wouldn’t worry about it at all. Especially considering it’s 3V. I have tried to snap hardened blade steel and it’s almost impossible at that thickness. I couldn’t imagine any reasonable task being able to break that tang. I think if you were on a mission to destroy it you would need to mount it in a vise and use something to gain a ton of leverage, maybe a long pipe.
Totally agree with you there. Hmm that might be a fun video to do…but Cold Steel has already done a bunch of those type of videos 😂😂😂 Well that and it’s just a loaner. Lol
I mean nothing is truly destruction proof, especially if you watch DBK. I like thinking of knives as vehicles. They where made for a purpose. And outside of that purpose they can fail you, but inside, they will thrive. Folders are sport cars, no off-roading mate. Fixed blades are trucks and tanks, they can go off road and pack a punch, but they can still blow up if you nuke em. This knife is a tank from what I understand, and I have high trust for ZT. So don't go nuking ((vice and pressure snapping)) your ZT, it's a Zero Tolerance for Peet sake. 😭
@@carl8229 Its a must to watch...He just manage to "explode" the so called full tang of a LIONSTEEL 5 which was also skeletonized underneath the grip...i personally dont like this at all.
It’s not a weak point… at least not imo … when all constructed together… I’m sure I had to do with balancing and/ or weight reduction 🤷♂️ Cool how that comes apart… it’s growing on me 😊
So what if the little screw and nut securing the pommel is compromised and the knife is discontinued? Is that some kind of standard part? Seems like much integrity relies on that one screw and nut.
Thanks for the video! 👍 Full-tang, skeletonized blades are very common with many manufacturers. Skeletonizing is a way to reduce material to achieve knife balance without compromising the structural integrity. That knife will serve you well and last a lifetime. 👍
Knives with guards will break at the guard because the blade stock gets narrower under it causing a stress riser. It’s 3V so I’m sure is as tough as you can make a knife of that style.
I see people are worried about how strong this knife is. Just think about it, one can hang off a cliff with nothing but a few pissy bits of aluminium (not even steel) supporting them. If the tang was totally solid this would be some super heavy knife and too weighty in the hand
Those lightening holes don't look to weaken it too much so long as it maintains the full thickness exterior. I would argue a Fallkniven A2 has a weaker design and no one is calling those knives weak. It's more important to avoid sharp transitions creating stress risers. Jimping can greatly weaken a knife and it's a common feature on survival knives. Watch the DBK BRK Magnacut failure. As long as the outline avoids sharp transitions it should be fine but that guard can also act as a stress riser if the blade flexes but it's bound at the guard. As for the Jimping on this knife it looks smart having rounded grinds minimizing negative affects.
this big choil in front of the guard is a bigger concern than the handle skeleton for me. the further the cutting edge starts away from your hand the suckier it is to cut with. doesnt really matter for a pure combat knife though.
I don't think the cutouts are a weak point at all, the remaining steel is plenty thick enough to as not to impact the overall strength of the tang for any purposes a knive would be used for. The nut on the pommel is the only concerning thing to me as it is for striking by it's design. While the load is transferred into the tang for striking, it is a small thread and nut holding it. Having said that, this is a very well made knife, I would be happy to have one.
I hate skeletonized handles when they are done wrong, most of the time with stress risers, big holes and less steel, or a hole too close to the guard. This one seems perfect, everything is rounded, thick and placed in the middle with plenty of steel left. It looks like a beam for a bridge or a building. And the pommel is cleverly designed: it does not maintain the scales and the guard, and the screw will absorb shock and preserve the full tang handle.
Excellent comment. I am looking at that thing trying to work out how exactly you would damage the steel in the handle and unless you have hands like the hulk and can crush buildings with your fists I don't really see it. In reality very little theoretical strength was lost here and in the real world that will be zero for all practical applications. The real cost is a bit of extra machining time which is probably five or ten bucks to the consumer and most rational people would take that for better balance and weight. I also agree about the pommel. It is something most knives of this type get wrong and this is simply a good way to do it for strength and longevity. We are talking about design here, this is an example of great design. Zero tolerance is getting its act together it seems.
I didn't think it had cutouts it could affect heavy heavy use but I don't think it will in general I think the whole knife comes apart like that to make replacement handles and the holes are for lashing like a spear since it's and outdoors knife . Great inside look .
I wonder if those additional holes are there if you want to use the knife as a spear? Those smaller gaps could be used as storage for tinder tabs, small ferro rod, water purification tablet? Definitely would love to get the knife and try it out.
I cannot imagine a scenario where one would put enough stress on that handle for those holes to be an issue. Properly heat treated blade steel is insanely tough, and we know ZT has a good heat treat recipe. Well done video and thank you for the look under the scales, but I think this is a non-issue.
Unnecessary weight and unbalanced design are not really positive features. Even the Becker BK knives have lightening cuts under the scales and they are often viewed as sharpened pry bars.
I desagree... Cutting the truss like holes in the tang is essential... It would have been way heavier... I don't think you can really break it, Steel is strong.. Also those other 2 holes were probably for bolts durning the milling process..
You would have to drive it into something hard all the way to the hilt then try and bend it to break the handle. Or smack the handle with something hard. I feel like your still more likely to break the blade
Only thing I dont like is ... seems like if it does fall into fluids or water even, I would have to take it apart to make sure it dries and doesnt get trapped in there. The skeleton makes it even easier for that to happen.
Thanks for the disassembly! I'm not sure how much of a weak point it would be since your going to have to really point load that handle to cause it to fracture there with the scales and everything but still full tang without the weight relieving would be better for overall solidity I guess. 3V is pretty tough stuff so I think it should be fine for most use, at least any outdoor/camping activities I'd put it through. Definitely would like to pick this up!
I think for the price has very short and weak handle. The argonomics and looks nothing special, just a regular knife. Much better knives for less price out there
@@coreyketrow1376 I’m sorry that my reply was probably poorly phrased. I have no dog in the fight but didn’t want you or anybody else to discount what appears to be a pretty good knife because of the lightening cuts in the thickest portion of steel under the scales. Obviously, you pick whatever you like. 👍
I don't know for sure, but I'd think they did it for weight savings and balance in the hand. Probably still overbuilt. Time will tell. Someone will try to break it, for sure.
Meh I’m pretty indifferent honestly. I initially think I would like a ‘solid’ tang BUT the reality is it’s strong enough for anything short of attaching a tank I’m pretty sure 🤣🤣🤣
The 3V Cold Steel Recon Scout is 4X the knife and 1/2 the cost. This thing was brought to Market purely for the white collar weekend warrior gear queer who only buys the most expensive stuff.
Just my jackass opinion, but the skeletonized handle doesn't bother me, but i could see the screw on pommel getting messed up if someone tried to hammer with it.
Does it really lose any strength when the skeletonized part of the tang has two huge slabs of G10 bolted to it? Honestly anyone worried about breaking a fixed blade like this… probably doesn’t spend much time outside of mommy’s basement, I’d wager.
Thanks for the video my guy, it's a cool knife but I've had bad experiences with knives skeletonized that much, i wouldn't bet my life on it and if i had the choice i would def go for something not skeletonized so much🤙🏼
I love this knife, unfortunatly out of my budget. Also that sheath is a no go. It rattles and does not get a good hold on the knife in another vid review. At this price point it should come with a really heavy duty leather sheath.
@@terrybest8973 I’m not a maker or engineer or anything and while sure the cut out tang initially seems weak, I’m wondering if it REALLY is? Is there going to be enough real world force to cause any issues in those areas? The sandwiched G10 scales have to help give it some strength back I would think. But I’m not sure either. I just wonder if it’s TRULY a concern in real work or not 🤷🏼♂️
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Looks like I would expect not sure how in the world of physics this tang is a con or a weak spot. Good for them for taking the extra step to cut weight. Zero negative aspect here what so ever pure pro and dedication to a nice knife.
I’m an Engineer and that is a truss web design, which is the same engineering we design/construct web trusses for commercial & industrial buildings, such as large clear span sporting arenas. Nothing weak or defective about this design.
It's not going to break inside the handle, especially with 3V steel. Smart weight reduction design.
People don't know, but many of their favorite close to indestructible full tang knives are heavily skeletonized under the handles. If the edges and corners are properly rounded then it's not a weakpoint in the slightest.
Winklers come to mind. I love mine but under the scales is a heavily skeletonized handle.
@DAV1979 Yes. Also Bark Rivers and some Busse models if I'm not mistaken.
@Totemparadox yeah and the skeletonized handles don't necessarily mean lesser strength but some people are surprised when they aren't solid pieces of steel underneath.
@@DAV1979 Yup.
Thanks for the disassembly. Hopefully from the skeletonisation the whole knife is balanced. Oooo, I can’t wait for the boys from Dutch Bushcraft Knives to do their testing on this knife. 😁😁
The skeletonisation isn’t necessarily a weak point, look at how much material there is still on the handle side, also a lot of people don’t think about that the G10 is very strong and it can add strength to the handle, because for the handle to actually break, the g10 has to break as well. The G10 will also absorb shock as well. You have absolutely nothing to worry about. If you ever have seen the destruction video of the Glock field knife videos, that thing doesn’t even have a tang, and the reason it is so strong is because it has a tube shaped polymer handle that is made of Glock proprietary polymer that is known to be nearly indestructible. The tang of the knife isn’t the only thing that keeps a knife strong, now for this knife you have a 3v handle that is sandwiched with 2 slabs of G10, the handle is the last thing you should worry about.
100% agree with you. And great point the G10 adds to the strength for sure!!!
I feel like the weight vs strength is a big deal for a lot of people that might carry a knife like this.
Military, hunting, backpacking. Weight matters
@@dein45d yeah but a lot of people don’t know that.
@@dein45dweight matters if you are weak.
Thanks for the disassembly. I'm looking for a place to drill a lanyard hole and looks like skeletonization and the pommel nut complicate things a bit.
@@YanDoroshenko my pleasure. Thanks for watching.
They are pretty serious at ZT. I have a 0300 folder and it's a tank and will serve me well forever My hunch is you're fine.
If you break that knife it's going to be on the blade side of the gaurd, no weakness in the skelentonised tang.
Looks strong enough to me, considering the steel used also. Probably super strong, plus the g10 adds strength
The holes are for weight distribution while keeping structural integrity, it's a good thing..
Thanks so much for the disassembly, as I was curious as well. Love the design, and that it is balanced. The angles of the skeleton cuts are correct. If y’all think this is a weak spot, study bridge construction. Just ordered from Gil, maybe this exact piece!
Awesome.
That blade would snap before the tang. Assuming the load is placed half way along either.
IT never ceases to amaze me regarding Cyber commando giving there 10 cents worth backed up by nearly no experience . The NUT in that handle idea was coped from a knife made over 20 years ago called the Chunky Monkey made by Wilkins knives and Jordan Knife design collaboration . The buttcap slot is coped from the Raptor Buttcap made some 15 years ago made by Jordan knife design and Templar - knives . As to the comment regarding the void space in the Handle makes it weak . The thickness of the tang and the distance from the edge to the slot is wider than the Thickness . This was done entirely to get the near centre balance . I would like to see the TEST where the handle Tang snaps because of this Cyber commando idea its weak . That construction will take a lot of use . The two holes in the tang are for wrapping para cord around the handle in some situations . The stainless blade makes it a good choice for wet conditions . One big problem is the rattling Kydex sheath it comes with , that needs addressing for combat carry .
All great points. Thanks for chiming in.
One piece of information that you got entirely wrong is when you stated that the blade of this knife is " Stainless " when 3V barely qualifies as a " Semi-stainless " steel.
The formula for CPM3V contains 7.5% Chromium and what boosts it's minimal corrosion resistance is that when heat treated correctly the Vanadium in the formula forms into Vanadium carbides which provide the bulk of 3V's edge retention and fortunately because Vanadium carbides form at a lower temperature than Chromium carbides do it means that there's more free Chromium left in solution in the steel matrix which means that a passive layer of corrosion resistance is provided.
For a steel to be classified as " Stainless " it needs to have a minimum of 12% Chromium in its formula.
Other than that small mistake your breakdown of the knifes construction and your details about this knife models comparable predecessors was incredibly interesting indeed, well done, 👌🏻🤝🏻.
Thanks, Dirk, I learned something.
That’s my goal. 😉👍🏻
Thank you very much for the disassembly video.
My pleasure.
That's a good point on if it does save on the weight due to being skeleton handle
Given how thick the stock is, the handle should be fine - so long as you use proper lock tight.
I wouldn’t worry about it at all. Especially considering it’s 3V. I have tried to snap hardened blade steel and it’s almost impossible at that thickness. I couldn’t imagine any reasonable task being able to break that tang. I think if you were on a mission to destroy it you would need to mount it in a vise and use something to gain a ton of leverage, maybe a long pipe.
Totally agree with you there.
Hmm that might be a fun video to do…but Cold Steel has already done a bunch of those type of videos 😂😂😂
Well that and it’s just a loaner. Lol
I mean nothing is truly destruction proof, especially if you watch DBK. I like thinking of knives as vehicles. They where made for a purpose. And outside of that purpose they can fail you, but inside, they will thrive. Folders are sport cars, no off-roading mate. Fixed blades are trucks and tanks, they can go off road and pack a punch, but they can still blow up if you nuke em. This knife is a tank from what I understand, and I have high trust for ZT. So don't go nuking ((vice and pressure snapping)) your ZT, it's a Zero Tolerance for Peet sake. 😭
@@gamer.004 great analogy.
Watch Joe X. You will be surprised
@@carl8229 Its a must to watch...He just manage to "explode" the so called full tang of a LIONSTEEL 5 which was also skeletonized underneath the grip...i personally dont like this at all.
What a great looking knife. If i already didnt like my fallkniven a1xb so much, I'd pull the trigger
It’s not a weak point… at least not imo …
when all constructed together… I’m sure I had to do with balancing and/ or weight reduction 🤷♂️
Cool how that comes apart… it’s growing on me 😊
Agreed do I really see a weak point…NO 🤷🏼♂️
I hate knives that are handle heavy. I love knives that balance at the first finger. I totally think it was for balance.
It's for balance.
So what if the little screw and nut securing the pommel is compromised and the knife is discontinued? Is that some kind of standard part? Seems like much integrity relies on that one screw and nut.
Thanks for the video! 👍 Full-tang, skeletonized blades are very common with many manufacturers. Skeletonizing is a way to reduce material to achieve knife balance without compromising the structural integrity. That knife will serve you well and last a lifetime. 👍
Agree. Thanks for watching.
It reminds me of a LIONSTEEL 5 skeletonized full tang that JOEX manage to litterally explode...
Commentors are being academic but not users. Meanwhile users want lighter and more nimble knives with better balance hence skeletonized handle.
He did end up putting screws back in the other way around (it was blade up first). Not that it matters
Son of a….damn it gonna make me watch and redo it aren’t you 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
I was coming here to tell him that, lol..
@@chuckscarberryjr.2504 I was just testing to see if anyone would notice 😂😂😂😂
Knives with guards will break at the guard because the blade stock gets narrower under it causing a stress riser. It’s 3V so I’m sure is as tough as you can make a knife of that style.
Not with this knife, take a closer look.
Very cool! Great video 👍
Thanks.
Hi thanks a lot for doing this.:)
My pleasure.
I would be more concerned with balance than strength.
I see people are worried about how strong this knife is. Just think about it, one can hang off a cliff with nothing but a few pissy bits of aluminium (not even steel) supporting them. If the tang was totally solid this would be some super heavy knife and too weighty in the hand
Right
Those lightening holes don't look to weaken it too much so long as it maintains the full thickness exterior. I would argue a Fallkniven A2 has a weaker design and no one is calling those knives weak.
It's more important to avoid sharp transitions creating stress risers.
Jimping can greatly weaken a knife and it's a common feature on survival knives. Watch the DBK BRK Magnacut failure. As long as the outline avoids sharp transitions it should be fine but that guard can also act as a stress riser if the blade flexes but it's bound at the guard.
As for the Jimping on this knife it looks smart having rounded grinds minimizing negative affects.
More easy to crack. And for the price i don't think I'll ever consider. Thank you for exposing.
My pleasure.
3V steel i would not worry about strength
Agreed
Its really not a weak point- that is not where knives break unless defective because its not a high stress area.
Understood.
this big choil in front of the guard is a bigger concern than the handle skeleton for me. the further the cutting edge starts away from your hand the suckier it is to cut with. doesnt really matter for a pure combat knife though.
Making cutouts in steel at times makes the entire construction stronger. The do the same thing car frames.
I don't think the cutouts are a weak point at all, the remaining steel is plenty thick enough to as not to impact the overall strength of the tang for any purposes a knive would be used for. The nut on the pommel is the only concerning thing to me as it is for striking by it's design. While the load is transferred into the tang for striking, it is a small thread and nut holding it. Having said that, this is a very well made knife, I would be happy to have one.
Agreed
Omg!!! I luv the mat!!!
Thanks.
I hate skeletonized handles when they are done wrong, most of the time with stress risers, big holes and less steel, or a hole too close to the guard. This one seems perfect, everything is rounded, thick and placed in the middle with plenty of steel left. It looks like a beam for a bridge or a building. And the pommel is cleverly designed: it does not maintain the scales and the guard, and the screw will absorb shock and preserve the full tang handle.
Yep totally agree. Thanks for the input.
Excellent comment. I am looking at that thing trying to work out how exactly you would damage the steel in the handle and unless you have hands like the hulk and can crush buildings with your fists I don't really see it. In reality very little theoretical strength was lost here and in the real world that will be zero for all practical applications. The real cost is a bit of extra machining time which is probably five or ten bucks to the consumer and most rational people would take that for better balance and weight.
I also agree about the pommel. It is something most knives of this type get wrong and this is simply a good way to do it for strength and longevity.
We are talking about design here, this is an example of great design. Zero tolerance is getting its act together it seems.
I didn't think it had cutouts it could affect heavy heavy use but I don't think it will in general I think the whole knife comes apart like that to make replacement handles and the holes are for lashing like a spear since it's and outdoors knife . Great inside look .
That’s a good point. Pull the scales and lash it to a stick and BOOM.
Holes are for turning it into a spear I think, or why else would the handle come apart?
That’s a GREAT POINT
The knife will be fine. The price on the other hand ...
It’s expensive but really in line with similar products in 3V steel.
Does the sheath still rattle?
This was just a loaner so I’m not sure.
I wonder if those additional holes are there if you want to use the knife as a spear? Those smaller gaps could be used as storage for tinder tabs, small ferro rod, water purification tablet? Definitely would love to get the knife and try it out.
Spear? Great point!
@@epicoverland Ahhhh! I see what you did there! 😂
I cannot imagine a scenario where one would put enough stress on that handle for those holes to be an issue. Properly heat treated blade steel is insanely tough, and we know ZT has a good heat treat recipe. Well done video and thank you for the look under the scales, but I think this is a non-issue.
Watch Joe X. You wo't be sorry. He shows you what your favorite knives are made of
I too wish it was more solid, i dont care how much extra weight it adds if it also adds durability
I think it’s totally fine as is 🤷🏼♂️
Unnecessary weight and unbalanced design are not really positive features. Even the Becker BK knives have lightening cuts under the scales and they are often viewed as sharpened pry bars.
But it is CPM-3V though!
I would like it to be solid too, but 3V is tough!
My favorite steel!
Yes 3v
I hear there’s a lot of rattle with the sheath. Is that right?
I did not notice that.
It's quite normal. When you look at the trc apocalypse, it's got similar maybe even more aggresive weight cut out beneath the handle.
That TRC is AWESOME!!! Buddy loaned one in. Was a tough one to send back lol.
I desagree... Cutting the truss like holes in the tang is essential... It would have been way heavier... I don't think you can really break it, Steel is strong.. Also those other 2 holes were probably for bolts durning the milling process..
You would have to drive it into something hard all the way to the hilt then try and bend it to break the handle. Or smack the handle with something hard. I feel like your still more likely to break the blade
I agree. I’m not sure there’s really any weakness there.
I think it is a non-issue. Seems that some folks have to find fault with everything.
Agreed. People just like to bitch to bitch 🙄🤦🏼♂️
Always have a backup 😎💯
There is nothing wrong with this construction 🤦♂️
Only thing I dont like is ... seems like if it does fall into fluids or water even, I would have to take it apart to make sure it dries and doesnt get trapped in there. The skeleton makes it even easier for that to happen.
@@CaptSeeryus well don’t drop it then lolol
@@DirkWerning leave me alone lol, im trying to talk myself out of keeping it haha
Looks reasonable structurally to me
It really is.
Thanks for the disassembly! I'm not sure how much of a weak point it would be since your going to have to really point load that handle to cause it to fracture there with the scales and everything but still full tang without the weight relieving would be better for overall solidity I guess. 3V is pretty tough stuff so I think it should be fine for most use, at least any outdoor/camping activities I'd put it through. Definitely would like to pick this up!
Agreed.
That's not a weak point. WTH do you think it's supposed to do, hold up a tractor trailer? People are morons.
I was posing the question is all 😉
I think for the price has very short and weak handle. The argonomics and looks nothing special, just a regular knife. Much better knives for less price out there
Anyone know a knife in this look / style at a better price?
Randall Astro, more expensive.
If you break that knife you are using the wrong tool 😂
@@MarkAlmeida-y8e agreed
Thanks for the video! I will not buy one now due to the cut outs. Just my opinion.
I’m glad I was able to help you decide regardless of yes or no.
Just here to help.
That is absolutely ridiculous. The handle is in no way a weak point on this knife and balance is important.
@@rhettlyerly545 Just my opinion and preference. Let's keep it civil brother.
@@coreyketrow1376 I’m sorry that my reply was probably poorly phrased. I have no dog in the fight but didn’t want you or anybody else to discount what appears to be a pretty good knife because of the lightening cuts in the thickest portion of steel under the scales. Obviously, you pick whatever you like. 👍
Now make it in black!
True
I don't know for sure, but I'd think they did it for weight savings and balance in the hand. Probably still overbuilt. Time will tell. Someone will try to break it, for sure.
I want it bad!
Hit up Gil. He’ll hook you up.
Did he just say "tight butt end screw? "
It’s definitely not worth the $320 that it’s selling for at the Knife Center. I would buy a TOPS knife instead.
I would rather ZT used a thinner blade stock to achieve a lighter knife than that much skeletonizing the handle.
Meh I’m pretty indifferent honestly. I initially think I would like a ‘solid’ tang BUT the reality is it’s strong enough for anything short of attaching a tank I’m pretty sure 🤣🤣🤣
The thicker steel with proper lightening cuts in the right locations is really a better, stronger design.
Awesome knife. Way to expensive. You could buy three TOPS Knives for the price of this knife. TOPS Knive one life one knife
The 3V Cold Steel Recon Scout is 4X the knife and 1/2 the cost.
This thing was brought to Market purely for the white collar weekend warrior gear queer who only buys the most expensive stuff.
@@alwayson999 well thanks for you opinion. Everyone’s entitled to one.
Just my jackass opinion, but the skeletonized handle doesn't bother me, but i could see the screw on pommel getting messed up if someone tried to hammer with it.
I’m in agreement.
Does it really lose any strength when the skeletonized part of the tang has two huge slabs of G10 bolted to it? Honestly anyone worried about breaking a fixed blade like this… probably doesn’t spend much time outside of mommy’s basement, I’d wager.
Lolol agreed
Thanks for the video my guy, it's a cool knife but I've had bad experiences with knives skeletonized that much, i wouldn't bet my life on it and if i had the choice i would def go for something not skeletonized so much🤙🏼
Hmm okay. Thanks for the feedback.
THE SHEATH IS SHIT.
BUY A SPECOPS COMBAT MASTER(SHORT).....FITS LIKE A GLOVE. I ALSO MADE THE HANDLE GRIPPIER BY WRAPPING BANKLINE AROUND IT.
It is not weak. Lol
I love this knife, unfortunatly out of my budget. Also that sheath is a no go. It rattles and does not get a good hold on the knife in another vid review. At this price point it should come with a really heavy duty leather sheath.
I get that
It's a no no knife.
I been making knives for 40 plus years yes it is a week point it crap is what is and ashamed
Hmm interesting opinion.
@@DirkWerning I'm sorry weak
@@terrybest8973 I’m not a maker or engineer or anything and while sure the cut out tang initially seems weak, I’m wondering if it REALLY is?
Is there going to be enough real world force to cause any issues in those areas? The sandwiched G10 scales have to help give it some strength back I would think.
But I’m not sure either. I just wonder if it’s TRULY a concern in real work or not 🤷🏼♂️
Yeuh....NO THANKS
Yes I Don't like it now
Okay thanks.
I'm a Zt fan but they have dropped the ball on this one! Hard Pass now!
Well thanks for watching.
It's junk.
And you base this opinion on what??