To be honest, as a signage user with more than 15 years of experience and work with all three types of printers, i think that eco-solvent is definitely a history due to smell and curving edges. But, I would not count off latex in comparison to UV, as latex prints are way more vivid and they can be used in wrapping curvy surfaces, on both matte and glossy media. On the other hand, UV prints can't be stretched a bit, so you can't cover even a slightest unevenness. Beside that, latex printer which prints 23-25 sqms per hour cost abot $25k, and UV printer in the same print speed cost $50-70k. Cost per sqm are about $2,5 on latex vs 1,5-2 on UV, so depends on your production you choose financially the most efficient option. Of course, it is important to say that latex print fade outdoors after 2-3 years unlaminated...
@@troyd-motorsport9933 definetely. If you are to do wraps, forget UV (for now) in most cases. I've read that few UV machines can do prints for curvy wraps like Mimaki UCJV150/300 with LUS200 inks, and Canon Ocè Colorado 1650 also, but I never used their prints in real situation so I think that you should stick with solvent or latex for that purpose as all of them do the job perfectly.
@@igor.vorgic Igor, what would you use to print basic but precise marks and lettering on either anodised or powder coated Aluminium? Would you say a print solution is cheaper than laser marking on a batch production basis? Precision? i.e. lining up print/laser area over pre-marked templates below? I'm trying to bring a product to market and it's a steep learning curve to get to a final finish with a viable profit margin. Thanks!
I want to buy small printer A4 size or 13'X 19' printing ability for making labels to stick on My product which are glass bottles to pvc jar or pvc standing pouch & etc. Which printer should I buy UV or Eco - solvent ?
Thanks Igor for your suggestion. I would like to take a favor from you. I want to buy a printer for canvas printing. which should be best for it. UV or Latex? my main goal is the highest quality of each small detail from the photograph.
Thank you for tye information... Can you please tell me what is the difference of 2 , 4 , 6 head UV Flatbed Printer!? And Ricoh Head vs Toshiba Head Which head is best for uv printer?
That was a well explained video covering up almost all aspects, just one thing to ask @signhousetv that to clean a misprinted silk printing we use industrial thinner, but kindly help us on how to remove a misprinted UV printing from a plastic surface ??
Hello Anand, on my humble opinion i think you didn't take in count many things about the difference between the ink technologies. Specifically on the inks, one of the main differences between hp latex inks and ecosolvent and uv is that the latex inks doesn't penetrate into the substrate so you don't need the substrate to be coated, you can print on almost everything. The látex particles in the ink form a film that protects the inks. So the versatility is way more wide ranged in hp latex inks, beside that the ink is flexible wich not all the UV inks are. On the cost comparission it actually depends on the costs of the consumables of each machine in their own countries. Because the inks doesn't have the same costs in India, or in USA or in Europe or in Asia or in Latin America. But the thing that you have to take most in count is that UV printers and ecosolvent printers have a lot of mainteinance costs, the ink costs represents only the 50% of the productive cost per square meter. In HP latex inks the cost of the ink represents 95% of the cost per square meter. On the item that you say that an UV advantage is to print on rigid materials it will actually depend on the machine and the capability of higher or lower the printing carriage wich also requires a bidirectional calibration each time you variate the hight of the carriage. That leaves you a really wide variety of options and different costs of machines. Finally the UV printers and Solvent/Eco-Solvent printers use piezo printheads wich has a cost 10 times higher than thermal ink printheads (wich are used on hp latex printers) and the amount of nozzles per inch on a piezo printhead is around 100-300 and on thermal inkjet printheads the amount of nozzles per inch is 1200 so there's a visible diference in the resolution of the printer. With this i'm not saying that piezo printheads can't print with high resolution, they can but they have to pirnt in many more passes to get that kind of qualitiy. Latex printhead can achieve more resolution with less passes. I really liked your video and hope you don't take this as an ofense, i just wanted to add some more information to your comparission. Best wishes!
Pablo, I tend to agree with you more here. If I may add, UV prints lacks the kind of color vibrancy and gamut compared to Solvents/Eco-Solvents and Latex prints. However, looking at the improvements of UV inks over the years, I will not be surprised to see this gap becoming very close. At the end of the day, there's no ink technology that will tick all the checklist.
Thanks for info! Quick question, does type of vinyl sheet using for banner make a big difference when using UV or Eco Solvent ink? If yes, can you recommend the vinyl brand that you are using?
I want to buy small printer A4 size or 13'X 19' printing ability for making labels to stick on My product which are glass bottles to pvc jar or pvc standing pouch & etc. Which printer should I buy UV or Eco - solvent ?
good job on explaining it all. What printing application do you think would work for a baseball bat i.e. to be able to fit the bat in the machine and then rotate it and print on all sides?
you have to find a UV machine with a rotary holder which can accommodate a whole baseball bat, it will rotate it as required. But this is difficult to find, so you might be better off doing a ScreenPrint instead.
Hi Asanga, Ideally you should look for a reliable dealer of a brand like Roland, Mimaki, Seiko in your market for a small UV printer (1.6m). Every country has different brands that are active. If you are looking at 3.2m UV then quite a few Chinese brands are also very good, just assess which brand is prevalent in your country.
Asanga W .. First sorry for my English, and I hope I can help. I’m looking for UV prints too and what I saw in this last show PRINT-UNITED 2019 in Texas was: Avoid to use epson print head because only good for 2 years then cross ur fingers and also print very slow. Try to get one with RICOH gen5 printhead, it is technology from 2016.. Ricoh gen6 just started this year on April so very expensive if you find it. This printhead is easy to fix and replace. Also check the type of ink you need UV ink, solvent, others, logojet and Roland use epson printhead.. mimaki the small one 12x12in :$20,000 2.3x1.8in : $40,000 after this is 4x8 ft sizes probably over $80,000 + There a lot more inf but I think this is just good to start for small business ..
@@SIGNHOUSETV Hello, thank You for such video. Can You recommend which of technology is best for high quality canvas printing? Cant decide between UV and Eco Solvent.
Hi Anand , thanks for great video 👌. Can you recommend something for me, we are small company and I looking printer which can print directly to fabric textile like cotton mako or mako-satin, and silk. I need for bedding with good quality.
this depends on the type of Fabric. the most prevalent fabric printing technology available today is dye sublimation printing on polyester fabrics, which are used for flags, upholstery and fashion.there are additional technologies for cotton, silk and poly-cotton. So it all depends on what you are trying to achieve. the lowest cost of entry into fabric is dye sublimation printing on polyester.
Hello Anand I am Varun from India... thanks for the video very useful for me.. I am planning to buy a small format UV printer how is Roland Lef 200 ...will you recommend Roland as it is expensive or shall I buy chinese printers .. how is the quality of chinese printer compared to Roland Uv printer
varun sarda .. Roland LEF2-200 $25,995. (Print size 1.8x1 ft ) First Sorry for my English, I hope I can help: Roland is a beautiful machine, but all depends on budget, print size and speed. Price is good if you don’t need bigger size of print area. Also there is Mimaki $24,000 (print size 1.4x1 ft) This printer use Printhead epson so is slow comparing with Ricoh gen5 .. but u don’t find Ricoh in small sizes. China products are less expensive but you don’t have the quality of Roland and the technical support. But If you are a person who can fix your printer yourself, go with china. You will save a lot.
varun sarda Hi Varun, Roland UV printers are definitely very good and you should not have any issues with them. However, if you do you’re research and test some of the more well known UV printers from china, you can find better value in terms of speed, ink cost per sqm and comparable print quality for the same price of a Roland.
@@SIGNHOUSETV Sir thanks for your reply...I am from Pune India... which chinese printer has good service support in India... also how is Artisjet UV printer for print quality and tech support... which is better uv printer between Roland and Mimaki
@@MUUQNN thanks for your valuable feedback... which chinese printer has good service support in India and how is Artis jet UV printer review.. Which is better uv printer between Roland and Mimaki
@@SIGNHOUSETV Hi Anand, What should be the ideal competitive price for Print & Cut Machine. Whether its Roland or any other market leader, whats the right price?
Aidan Bryan as long as the machine can ensure the surface of the silicone material is flat and has some tension, the printer can do it. The importance is on the placement and flatness of the material when you print.
@@SIGNHOUSETV That sounds great. Out of curiosity, how would the ink fair when exposed to out side elements (sunlight, rain ect...) and general wear and tear? Thank you for your previous response.
Aidan Bryan ink from high quality manufacturers like sericol etc. can last 2 years or longer without any fading or loss of quality from rain or sun in mid temperate cliamtes(not the Middle East). Middle East would be ideally for a year. Additional protection can be given with a high quality polymeric or cast lamination to extend the life for total of upto 5 years
To be honest, as a signage user with more than 15 years of experience and work with all three types of printers, i think that eco-solvent is definitely a history due to smell and curving edges. But, I would not count off latex in comparison to UV, as latex prints are way more vivid and they can be used in wrapping curvy surfaces, on both matte and glossy media. On the other hand, UV prints can't be stretched a bit, so you can't cover even a slightest unevenness.
Beside that, latex printer which prints 23-25 sqms per hour cost abot $25k, and UV printer in the same print speed cost $50-70k. Cost per sqm are about $2,5 on latex vs 1,5-2 on UV, so depends on your production you choose financially the most efficient option. Of course, it is important to say that latex print fade outdoors after 2-3 years unlaminated...
Good write up. Thanks. So basically you are saying that if you were to do car wraps, latex or eco solvent would be the way to go?
@@troyd-motorsport9933 definetely. If you are to do wraps, forget UV (for now) in most cases. I've read that few UV machines can do prints for curvy wraps like Mimaki UCJV150/300 with LUS200 inks, and Canon Ocè Colorado 1650 also, but I never used their prints in real situation so I think that you should stick with solvent or latex for that purpose as all of them do the job perfectly.
@@igor.vorgic Igor, what would you use to print basic but precise marks and lettering on either anodised or powder coated Aluminium? Would you say a print solution is cheaper than laser marking on a batch production basis? Precision? i.e. lining up print/laser area over pre-marked templates below? I'm trying to bring a product to market and it's a steep learning curve to get to a final finish with a viable profit margin. Thanks!
I want to buy small printer A4 size or 13'X 19' printing ability for making labels to stick on My product which are glass bottles to pvc jar or pvc standing pouch & etc. Which printer should I buy UV or Eco - solvent ?
Thanks Igor for your suggestion.
I would like to take a favor from you.
I want to buy a printer for canvas printing. which should be best for it. UV or Latex? my main goal is the highest quality of each small detail from the photograph.
hello Anand , nice video and useful information , can you pls suggest 3-4 uv printer brands( best) I am in the USA
These videos help me to clear my mistakes regarding uv or latex
hello Anand , nice video and useful information , can you pls suggest 3-4 chines and Taiwan uv printer brands( best) service available in India
How about outdoor life comparing the 3 types?
how to remove the "texture" from the UV Print Result directly? adding varnish is not really a straight away solution
If one had to choose between investing between a UV printer and an ecosolvent printer, would there be any sense in choosing an ecosolvent printer?
Thank you for tye information...
Can you please tell me what is the difference of 2 , 4 , 6 head UV Flatbed Printer!?
And Ricoh Head vs Toshiba Head
Which head is best for uv printer?
To clean the print heads, what alcohol are you using exactly?
That was a well explained video covering up almost all aspects, just one thing to ask @signhousetv that to clean a misprinted silk printing we use industrial thinner, but kindly help us on how to remove a misprinted UV printing from a plastic surface ??
Hello Anand, on my humble opinion i think you didn't take in count many things about the difference between the ink technologies.
Specifically on the inks, one of the main differences between hp latex inks and ecosolvent and uv is that the latex inks doesn't penetrate into the substrate so you don't need the substrate to be coated, you can print on almost everything. The látex particles in the ink form a film that protects the inks. So the versatility is way more wide ranged in hp latex inks, beside that the ink is flexible wich not all the UV inks are.
On the cost comparission it actually depends on the costs of the consumables of each machine in their own countries. Because the inks doesn't have the same costs in India, or in USA or in Europe or in Asia or in Latin America. But the thing that you have to take most in count is that UV printers and ecosolvent printers have a lot of mainteinance costs, the ink costs represents only the 50% of the productive cost per square meter. In HP latex inks the cost of the ink represents 95% of the cost per square meter.
On the item that you say that an UV advantage is to print on rigid materials it will actually depend on the machine and the capability of higher or lower the printing carriage wich also requires a bidirectional calibration each time you variate the hight of the carriage. That leaves you a really wide variety of options and different costs of machines.
Finally the UV printers and Solvent/Eco-Solvent printers use piezo printheads wich has a cost 10 times higher than thermal ink printheads (wich are used on hp latex printers) and the amount of nozzles per inch on a piezo printhead is around 100-300 and on thermal inkjet printheads the amount of nozzles per inch is 1200 so there's a visible diference in the resolution of the printer. With this i'm not saying that piezo printheads can't print with high resolution, they can but they have to pirnt in many more passes to get that kind of qualitiy. Latex printhead can achieve more resolution with less passes.
I really liked your video and hope you don't take this as an ofense, i just wanted to add some more information to your comparission. Best wishes!
Pablo, I tend to agree with you more here.
If I may add, UV prints lacks the kind of color vibrancy and gamut compared to Solvents/Eco-Solvents and Latex prints.
However, looking at the improvements of UV inks over the years, I will not be surprised to see this gap becoming very close.
At the end of the day, there's no ink technology that will tick all the checklist.
How much would it cost to buy an uv printer....size of the printing area should be around (10×7) feet??
Thanks for info! Quick question, does type of vinyl sheet using for banner make a big difference when using UV or Eco Solvent ink? If yes, can you recommend the vinyl brand that you are using?
Hello,
Four years later, doesn't latex technology have the advantage over UV technology ?
When we see latex printers from HP, for example.
Hi, what uv ink was that you have wrinkled?
Hello Sir. What Are your views about Epson SC V 7000 & Hp Latex R 1000? Please Share
Thanks for the info!
I want to buy small printer A4 size or 13'X 19' printing ability for making labels to stick on My product which are glass bottles to pvc jar or pvc standing pouch & etc. Which printer should I buy UV or Eco - solvent ?
Which is best best printer for polypropylene substrate?
If we clean with water uv color leaves the surface. How can we control this problem?
Please help me to direct me with uv printer best one thanks
Thank you. That was what I needed to hear.
This maybe out of context, but can how does UV printers differ from inkjet printers? I'm looking for printers that can print oil inks.
UV printers are inkjet printers
good job on explaining it all. What printing application do you think would work for a baseball bat i.e. to be able to fit the bat in the machine and then rotate it and print on all sides?
you have to find a UV machine with a rotary holder which can accommodate a whole baseball bat, it will rotate it as required. But this is difficult to find, so you might be better off doing a ScreenPrint instead.
hi Anand, great video. Lots of useful information for a novice. Any suggestion for UV printer that can be used in small commercial.
Hi Asanga, Ideally you should look for a reliable dealer of a brand like Roland, Mimaki, Seiko in your market for a small UV printer (1.6m). Every country has different brands that are active. If you are looking at 3.2m UV then quite a few Chinese brands are also very good, just assess which brand is prevalent in your country.
Asanga W .. First sorry for my English, and I hope I can help. I’m looking for UV prints too and what I saw in this last show PRINT-UNITED 2019 in Texas was:
Avoid to use epson print head because only good for 2 years then cross ur fingers and also print very slow. Try to get one with RICOH gen5 printhead, it is technology from 2016.. Ricoh gen6 just started this year on April so very expensive if you find it. This printhead is easy to fix and replace. Also check the type of ink you need UV ink, solvent, others,
logojet and Roland use epson printhead..
mimaki the small one 12x12in :$20,000
2.3x1.8in : $40,000 after this is 4x8 ft sizes probably over $80,000 +
There a lot more inf but I think this is just good to start for small business ..
@@SIGNHOUSETV Hello, thank You for such video. Can You recommend which of technology is best for high quality canvas printing? Cant decide between UV and Eco Solvent.
Gracias por el tiempo. Genial
Needs some vuvu zelas in the background music.
Thank you so much for this knowledge...
Thank you for watching
Hi Anand , thanks for great video 👌. Can you recommend something for me, we are small company and I looking printer which can print directly to fabric textile like cotton mako or mako-satin, and silk. I need for bedding with good quality.
Arthur Martsinouski you need to look into pigment ink textile printers for the materials you are looking to print.
Hello Anand, what is the best method to print on fabrics/cloths/textiles?
this depends on the type of Fabric. the most prevalent fabric printing technology available today is dye sublimation printing on polyester fabrics, which are used for flags, upholstery and fashion.there are additional technologies for cotton, silk and poly-cotton. So it all depends on what you are trying to achieve. the lowest cost of entry into fabric is dye sublimation printing on polyester.
Is UV machine very good for silicone edge graphics fabrics ?
Hello Anand I am Varun from India... thanks for the video very useful for me.. I am planning to buy a small format UV printer how is Roland Lef 200 ...will you recommend Roland as it is expensive or shall I buy chinese printers .. how is the quality of chinese printer compared to Roland Uv printer
varun sarda .. Roland LEF2-200 $25,995. (Print size 1.8x1 ft )
First Sorry for my English, I hope I can help:
Roland is a beautiful machine, but all depends on budget, print size and speed.
Price is good if you don’t need bigger size of print area. Also there is
Mimaki $24,000 (print size 1.4x1 ft)
This printer use Printhead epson so is slow comparing with Ricoh gen5 .. but u don’t find Ricoh in small sizes.
China products are less expensive but you don’t have the quality of Roland and the technical support.
But If you are a person who can fix your printer yourself, go with china. You will save a lot.
varun sarda Hi Varun, Roland UV printers are definitely very good and you should not have any issues with them. However, if you do you’re research and test some of the more well known UV printers from china, you can find better value in terms of speed, ink cost per sqm and comparable print quality for the same price of a Roland.
@@SIGNHOUSETV Sir thanks for your reply...I am from Pune India... which chinese printer has good service support in India... also how is Artisjet UV printer for print quality and tech support... which is better uv printer between Roland and Mimaki
@@MUUQNN thanks for your valuable feedback... which chinese printer has good service support in India and how is Artis jet UV printer review..
Which is better uv printer between Roland and Mimaki
@@SIGNHOUSETV Hi Anand, What should be the ideal competitive price for Print & Cut Machine. Whether its Roland or any other market leader, whats the right price?
hi Anand, what would UV printing be like on a silicone surface with a bit of stretch-ability?
Aidan Bryan as long as the machine can ensure the surface of the silicone material is flat and has some tension, the printer can do it. The importance is on the placement and flatness of the material when you print.
@@SIGNHOUSETV That sounds great. Out of curiosity, how would the ink fair when exposed to out side elements (sunlight, rain ect...) and general wear and tear? Thank you for your previous response.
Aidan Bryan ink from high quality manufacturers like sericol etc. can last 2 years or longer without any fading or loss of quality from rain or sun in mid temperate cliamtes(not the Middle East). Middle East would be ideally for a year. Additional protection can be given with a high quality polymeric or cast lamination to extend the life for total of upto 5 years
@@SIGNHOUSETV thank you for sharing your great knowledge.
Namaskara, What is the Best for Priting On Cotton Canvas Please Advice me