I have a 6700XT. The drivers have really come a long way and I've seen huge improvements in modern games. That extra VRAM isn't something to blow off either. It allows me to crank up the texture quality which makes a major difference to me. I'd really like to see an updated performance review for the 3060ti and 6700xt though.
@@88-bit-tech don't really know TBH. I dabbled with Davinci for a bit with 1080p video and unless I was doing something that used up my RAM I didn't have any issues.
Newer games are having trouble staying below 8GB on Ultra even at 1080p, if you're paying $300+ for a GPU and don't want to replace it within a year or two or turn down settings, 6700XT is by far the superior choice.
The 6700xt is a much better GPU today because it's 12 gigs of vram. It's able to handle much more than it could 2 years ago. I started with 70 FPS in DCS 18 months ago. Today, I'm staying above 120 with max textures. Every update gives me more fps with less load on my GPU. My GPU was running around 80c at 99% load. Now it's running 72c at 90% load.
If you are using their video from about a year ago then you need to check those benchmarks again. Driver updates make the 6700XT an in between the 3060ti and 3070 in raster performance and rhe 6750XT a 3070 competitor an even downright beating it. So I would say 6700XT is better.
@@_Drekavac_dlss frame generation is limited to the Nvidia 40 series. So the only advantage 3060 ti has is rau tracing and dlss without frame generation. FSR 3 frame generation is available on both Nvidia and AMD GPUs but it's not as good as dlss frame generation
@@_Drekavac_ This is a mostly 1080p card. It cant do 1440p that well due to RAM limitations. Funnily enough in some games the 6700xt beats it in raytracing due to more VRAM. Still the 6700XT delivers way better rasterization which means you can play at native 1440p which will always look better than DLSS. At 1080p any upscaler just looks awful. Nobody in their right mind should buy a 8gb card in 2023 unless they are on a budget. The AMD card is faster, has more memory and draws less power.
Seeing how a lot more games are now using more VRAM and it could possibly be a trend going with the 6700 XT might actually be the better investment if you're not going to upgrade anytime soon and it will help with 1% lows which will give any game a smoother feel.
RX 6000 and RX 7000 cards can use frame generation on any game one would like to. With RTX cards it's only available in a small number of games and you need a mod to enable it with RTX 20 and 30 series cards.
Lets not forget the 3060ti 256 bits bus width vs the 192 from 6700xt. Bus width has more of a hit in terms of raw performance than vram. Both cards are great for a budget build that still delivers good performance on both 1080p and 1440p
@@colevandyken2871 I guess Vram is what matters the most nowadays. Still bus width should be taken into consideration when making a decision. Depends on what your aiming your build to. Details matter.
Comparing bus width in this case doesn't matter because the 6700 XT has a lot of cache and more VRAM, that more than accounts for the bus width being slightly lower. If bus width was a huge factor when comparing Ampere vs RDNA 2 GPUs, the 6900 XT would have a much harder time against the 3080 Ti / 3090 as opposed to trading blows with them like it actually does.
The thing about VRAM is that there are games that are coming out right now that choke on 8GB of VRAM at 1080p low settings. There aren't a lot of them yet, but it'll only get worse
Tbf those same games also struggle 12 gb vram at 1080p medium settings or higher, which makes the game unoptimized for everyone if you have to drop graphics that far
Ah yes this answered my comment on your other short. It’s not a 3060 ti but I mentioned my solo fan asus 3060 12 gb overclocked to 2.2ghz core clock and 8500 mhz vram, offers the same value proposition while fitting in a 7700k based minitower you can easily find with 32 gigs of vram and an SSD for 200 bucks. With DLSS Q I’m playing cyberpunk at 4k getting 40-60 fps on high settings (high SSR, ultra for low impact, sometimes ray traced shadows). I considered an external/vertical 6700 or 6750 XT but even if it could run well on my proprietary hp 500w psu, or I was willing to run it externally with a secondary power supply, it wouldn’t have offered a better experience without DLSS. Completely agree here.
If you have a 5000+ series AMD CPU and a 6700XT you can enable SAM which gives an overall boost of 10-15% depending on some aspects. 3060ti only worth it for intel or older series AMD.
SAM also works on ryzen 3000 cpus and the 400 series Mobos if manufacture has updated the bios to support it. Also in certain cases enabling SAM/ReSize Bar can lower performance for some games so its worth testing to see if it is of any benefit in the games you play.
@@MarcsSpark correct and I believe with an nvidia card you can turn it on/off on a per game basis, so you can turn it off in games that ResizeBar would decrease performance. As far as I’m aware with Radeon cards it set globally and can’t be turned off for individual games
In FH5 1080p max/ultra/extreme everything, the 6700xt chugs 10 -11gb of vram. But god damn everything looks flawless and picture perfect just the way I like. Dang I love that card
As someone who has the 3060ti, the raytracing isn't really worth sacrificing extra v-ram but the DLSS might be, but seeing textures not load properly because it's not got the ram for me when my friends does is annoying
I got a refurbished Rx 6700xt for $250 from eBay this month, it's a great card. I have never cared about raytracing and FSR is great. I know people say that DLSS is better than FSR but in comparisons I've looked at I can't discern a major difference in image quality. I have used AMD for years and have never had any major driver issues.
Ray tracing is kinda irrelevant. In order for it to properly run on the 3060 ti you'll have to turn down a lot of the quality settings to begin with since it eats a lot of vram and that 8 gb isn't going to be enough. Eventually you're going to have a better experience playing a game at high settings with good fps without rt, which the 6700 xt can supply because of the 12gb of vram and the 3060 ti can't. The 6700xt just plain out performs better at high or ultra settings or with 1440p, in a lot of modern games. Doesn't matter if RT is on or off on both.
Gotta disagree here but only slightly - I have a natural bias for Amd but I still think the 6700 xt would be better, as it is much newer and will continue to receive driver support and potential minor fps increases along with it. The added benefit of a new card is higher clock speeds relative to price and higher availability as it is still being produced. This will greatly impact the 3060ti in the future as support slowly fades and new cards slowly run out
This really got me thinking, but last time on eBay I was able to have both, ended up going with the 3060ti as it was 50 bucks cheaper, can’t turn down on an offer like that
If they are the same fps but one has more vram, get that one. Games advance and while they both run the same now, in the future, the vram will become more important as the cards get older.
I want a rtx gpu that is faster than 3070 ti and cheaper costs. Make sure it runs at 1440p over 170 fps. I want it to be able to perform better at video editing, live streaming & recording without frame drops, discord, and Running some AAA games
Having used both, the current AMD FSR is as good as dlss. You don't miss out on frame generation with the AMD card. It's simply a question of whether raytracing or the extra v ram matters more, and with the fps you get with raytracing, I'll take the vram. Enable resizable bar also.
I get why some people like yourself don’t advertise DLSS, but it’s needs to be mentioned more. It just offers so much value imo. Yes FSR is good, but it seems to be a bit slower to integrate.
@@blueboy3990 thanks the the explanation, but maybe you're not aware that ray tracing increases the memory usage, and you can have good rt and not enough vram to support it, as it's the case with some cards such as the 3070.
I've never had the 6700xt but the but i did have its younger brother the 5700 and when it came to creative work in davinci resolve it really struggled. I upgraded to the 3060ti and it is a night and day difference! Much smoother experience especially when editing in 4k. Not sure how the 6700xt fairs in that regard while its fairly well known the 3060ti is a workhorse when it comes to content creation
even if you want to consider VRAM there's just the fact that in a lot of professional/creative applications CUDA is just better optimized for such workloads than the computing cores on AMD cards. Though of course this is not universally true and you should always look into it but Nvidia certainly has leaps and bounds better performance in motion graphics processing, visual effects, and video editing
Think you could get a 7800XT/higher, cpu platform some Intel 12th gen are dirt cheap (same 13th with sales) with a lot of speed and cores or Ryzen 7000 series to upgrade later (7600 are 210ish, 7700 are 8cores). Would try to spend on graphics card and get a decent cpu for next 3-5 years. At least 1tb (or 512gb absolute minimum) for storage, 32gb ram would be ideal (16 min). Am sure there should be a good build guide on here or pcpartpicker might have a good one made up.
Ratchet and clank crashes multiple times because of VRAM shortage on my old RX580. I can only imagine this being even worse with a much faster card that still only has 8GB. I had enough bad experiences with 8GB cards so yeah, I would pick the 12GB RX6700XT.
If the GPU performance is close, and the price is close, why not go with the extra VRAM? My wife has a 6600, and the 8 gb of vram definitely holds it back in certain titles.
Rtx features don't really make as much of a difference at lower performance tiers like these. You'll likely get better quality by using higher texture quality while lowering settings in 1440p on the 6700xt, and at only 8 gigs, the 3060ti likely will end up being relegated to 1080p sooner than the 6700xt. Even using dlss will be a problem because upscaling from 1080p requires memory that the 3060ti doesn't have to spare. And as fsr gets better, it will become a more viable option at 1440p, and it's less likely that new games won't have both options. Unless you plan on upgrading again in like a year, the vram does actually matter here. Is say it's less of an issue between 12 and 16 gb with say an AMD x800 level and an RTX x070(ti) card if they're close enough in performance and price, because you can probably get away with dlss 4k with just 12gb for a while, especially until another console generation raises the amount of memory developers are targeting.
I got a 6650 xt because i couldnt find any 6700 xt, def would've went for the 700 though. Also, 12gb vram is a huge difference, ur benching on older games while newer ones are much more intensive on vram
I game on a 1080p monitor and I would have to suggest that the Radeon is the better choice if you're on a 1080p monitor and have no intentions to upgrade to 1440p. The extre V-ram doesn't make a difference now, but it will most likely make a difference down the line. Dlss is a good thing if you own a 1440p monitor or are about to upgrade, ray tracing however is a waste of time
I actually just had to make this decision, and the determining factor was S.A.M. Where I have a Ryzen 7 5800 CPU, I went with the 6700xt for the Smart Access Memory feature that is available if you have both an AMD CPU & GPU. It made sense to me, but I am definitely still noob when it comes to this stuff. Any opinions on if this was the right move? Or if the S.A.M. even makes a big enough difference to consider when buying? Please, Comments, let me know your thoughts.
With fsr 3 out for some games now i reckon the rx 6700 xt would be a great graphics card but if you like a visually stunning game with rt on max or something along those lines i reckon go with the 3060 12gb instead of 8gb
8GB of VRAM isn't letting you do RT at a resolution that matters, even with DLSS so not really a selling point. Also, RSR and FSR exist and 99% of people will not be able to notice a difference between either of those or DLSS (when supported). VRAM is king, it will make the cards stay relevant for longer.
You cant expect to do raytracing in any of them and expect 50fps or more, and dlss is well, noisy. DLSS is actually alright if it was to work in more games but FSR and AMFM are good
I have a ryzen 5 5600g and a rx 6500 xt and 16GB's of ram and I want to upgrade my Gpu and I was thinking of getting a rx 6700 xt becuase I would like to swap to 2k gaming but I am on a budget of about £320-£370. What do you think I should do? Also your videos are great 🗿
Hey zach i cant decide between the 4070ti and 7900xt and trust me ive seen everything from performance to vram and even future proofing but what is keeping on the edge is fortnite which runs better on the 4070ti on competitive settings which stops me from pulling the trigger on the 7900xt. ( Currently they are both 750 usd)
Your future self should debate with your past self and make one cohesive video on which card to choose. Price being the same the 3060ti might be better for some but the 6700xt is normally the blind pick regardless of price.
I actually had 6700xt and fortunately have had the chance to buy a 3060ti and 3060ti is actually also better for 3D in blender cuz of better support for nvidia
As a casual AMD fan, this time i agree, partially. Because VRAM and a tiny amount performance is good but it is not the best so if they are roughly the same, go with 3060 ti What i disagree is Personally i value my vram, i prefer at least 12gb But i got some money on my pocket, gotta buy a 7600xt, no disagreements are cared, i dont like 4060 or any 30 series card or nvidia
hey zach like the video u posted i had a quick question is there anyway to connect 2 fan hub or 2 ARGB hub on a b550-A board cause my chassis fan and aio are diff brand (NZXT and Segotep)
I have a ryzen 5 5600g and a rx 6500 xt and 16GB's of ram and I want to upgrade my Gpu and I was thinking of getting a rx 6700 xt becuase I would like to swap to 2k gaming but I am on a budget of about £320-£370. What do you think I should do?
Many games nowadays require more VRAM even in 1080p, and even more games at 1440p. Even DLSS looks quite bad at 1080p, and even at 1440p, it's only at 4K where upscaling looks decent. In many new titles the RT performance of 3060ti and 3070 is very bad again because of the VRAM. Even if the 6700XT was more expensive (which it isnt) it'd be worth it.
What is better for gaming 4060TI or RX 6700XT in gaming performance and by how simple it is to update the graphics drivers for a beginner because i do not want to ruin my GPU with bad drivers
ive been playing baldurs gate 3 for a while now and its always eating around 8.5gb of vram, id rather have my 6700xt play games for the next years without worrying about vram
6000 series are starting to get cheaper in my place, but RTX and nvidia cards in general, not much. Also 6700 XT had a slightly powerful raw power, while also consume a little more, kinda close the deal for me to pick it up. As long as you don't play RT games primarily, RX series is not a bad deal even for now.
Hey ZTT, Idk how long this will last, but apparently the 970 Evo Plus 1TB is more expensive than the 990 Pro 1TB. 970 Evo Plus is $89 but the 990 Pro is $79.
Even when i was planning to build my pc which i have to ask my good repair shop you have to worry about what GDDR a VRAM have but more VRAM is good afaik the current GDDR for VRAM is GDDR6
@@UnboundiingI recently bought a 3070 for 220 and I've had no problems with it. Honestly I think it's one of the best deals I've ever had when shopping
I only bought Nvidia card because i do care about Ray Tracing alot. Some people say they can't see the difference but for me it is true game changer. Otherwise i would choose AMD
@@TheAscendedHuman that’s what I’m saying, I got my card for 280 since it was open box at Best Buy and I’m not at a point where I can afford going middle upper tier. I’m focusing more on cpu related hardware before I do another major card
@@master-le5cd I don’t play spider man but with rdr2 I play most high some ultra and a few minimum and it runs 120+, cyberpunk I only have trouble in certain areas that are DENSE, and I don’t play with rt and not everything at ultra, I play games like AC, titanfall 2, siege, and division 2. The only games I can’t consistently get high fps is squad and ground branch, they’ve yet to optimize those games
I prefer the 6700xt just for tht extra vram buffer especially with vram usage in modern games, and I dont use ray tracing and am perfectly fine with fsr
Hi Zack, so I am wondering if it would be ok to buy a ryzen 5 5500 and a 7600, and pair them for about a year and then get a good upgrade on the cpu, so start of small to get the pc done, then upgrade more towards the future.
He looks like the ring doorbell guy when he said “let me know if you disagree” 🤣
In India Rx 6700xt is almost $30 more expensive than the rtx 3070 non
TI or non OC😂
Fr
@@slozyxlegend2920ik lol
Open the noor
@@slozyxlegend2920 3070 he’s taking about 3060
still have my 3060ti, will be upgrading to the 8060ti when it comes out in a few yrs 😂😊
so in 20 years?
titan ADA 6000
@@end3xzMore like 7-10 years
CPU bottleneck 💀 (ik it's sarcasm)
8 to 12 years is 80th gen bc 50th gen comes out this year😊@@end3xz
Feels weird to see Zach recommending the 3060 Ti over the 6700XT, a card which he REALLY loves
its a conspiracy to not increase the price
Nvidia sauce
Haha Jealousy
6800 > 3070 > 6700xt > 3060 ti, and 3070 ti is a waste of money, while 6750 xt is just overclocked 6700xt.
still amazes me how dumb people are, 3070 > 6700xt? lmao goodluck running anything on 1440p with only 8gb
6750 XT isn't just an overclocked 6700 XT, they can both be overclocked so the 6750 XT ultimately does have better performance
@@BruceWaynge Literally same configuration, with 6750xt having slightly higher memory clock and bandwidth
Why is he literally ignoring FSR though?
@@darkpheonix5216Everyone should ignore it
Always go with more vram with how much these games eat up nowadays
Exactly
Only gonna get more vram dependent as unreal 5 becomes standard too.
Just bought a RX 580 16gb for my 4k setup, thanks for letting me know it's better than the 4070 super 👍
Not even red dead max settings breaks my 3060... Unless they are dipping out 4k they will be fine.
@@J.Stank9 u joking right
I have a 6700XT. The drivers have really come a long way and I've seen huge improvements in modern games. That extra VRAM isn't something to blow off either. It allows me to crank up the texture quality which makes a major difference to me. I'd really like to see an updated performance review for the 3060ti and 6700xt though.
How is it with 4k video editing/rendering?
@@88-bit-tech don't really know TBH. I dabbled with Davinci for a bit with 1080p video and unless I was doing something that used up my RAM I didn't have any issues.
Especially now with the frame generation update, made ark asc actually playable on release 😂
@@88-bit-tech ive heard it is not good at all.
@@stolenchaser I actually did end up getting rx 6700xt myself. It's not bad but not as good as my 3060ti.
Newer games are having trouble staying below 8GB on Ultra even at 1080p, if you're paying $300+ for a GPU and don't want to replace it within a year or two or turn down settings, 6700XT is by far the superior choice.
Thanks for telling me
The 6700xt is a much better GPU today because it's 12 gigs of vram. It's able to handle much more than it could 2 years ago. I started with 70 FPS in DCS 18 months ago. Today, I'm staying above 120 with max textures. Every update gives me more fps with less load on my GPU. My GPU was running around 80c at 99% load. Now it's running 72c at 90% load.
yeah my 6700xt has gotten better over time.. it's shocking
is this one 1080p or 1440p?
1440p for nearly all games, 1080p for extremely high esports fps @@joaoparente1717
If you are using their video from about a year ago then you need to check those benchmarks again. Driver updates make the 6700XT an in between the 3060ti and 3070 in raster performance and rhe 6750XT a 3070 competitor an even downright beating it. So I would say 6700XT is better.
I thought it was always like that
Id rather go with 3060 ti with dlss and frame gen if they are priced at the same!
@@_Drekavac_why use frame gen when u can get raster performance though? Besides below 4K I don't think frame gen looks nice.
@@_Drekavac_dlss frame generation is limited to the Nvidia 40 series. So the only advantage 3060 ti has is rau tracing and dlss without frame generation. FSR 3 frame generation is available on both Nvidia and AMD GPUs but it's not as good as dlss frame generation
@@_Drekavac_ This is a mostly 1080p card. It cant do 1440p that well due to RAM limitations.
Funnily enough in some games the 6700xt beats it in raytracing due to more VRAM.
Still the 6700XT delivers way better rasterization which means you can play at native 1440p which will always look better than DLSS. At 1080p any upscaler just looks awful.
Nobody in their right mind should buy a 8gb card in 2023 unless they are on a budget. The AMD card is faster, has more memory and draws less power.
Seeing how a lot more games are now using more VRAM and it could possibly be a trend going with the 6700 XT might actually be the better investment if you're not going to upgrade anytime soon and it will help with 1% lows which will give any game a smoother feel.
RX 6000 and RX 7000 cards can use frame generation on any game one would like to. With RTX cards it's only available in a small number of games and you need a mod to enable it with RTX 20 and 30 series cards.
Proud owner of 3060ti not upgrading anywhere now😊
Lets not forget the 3060ti 256 bits bus width vs the 192 from 6700xt. Bus width has more of a hit in terms of raw performance than vram. Both cards are great for a budget build that still delivers good performance on both 1080p and 1440p
Nah who care about bus nowadays
@@ukemix8848 It's quite important. a card with 128 bus width is effectively half the speed of a card with 256 bit bus width at the same clock speed.
But we already saw that they perform the same, so this is a mute point
@@colevandyken2871 I guess Vram is what matters the most nowadays. Still bus width should be taken into consideration when making a decision. Depends on what your aiming your build to. Details matter.
Comparing bus width in this case doesn't matter because the 6700 XT has a lot of cache and more VRAM, that more than accounts for the bus width being slightly lower. If bus width was a huge factor when comparing Ampere vs RDNA 2 GPUs, the 6900 XT would have a much harder time against the 3080 Ti / 3090 as opposed to trading blows with them like it actually does.
The card you get is the one that has the best sale
The thing about VRAM is that there are games that are coming out right now that choke on 8GB of VRAM at 1080p low settings. There aren't a lot of them yet, but it'll only get worse
It'll about to get worse considering consoles uses around 12g vram for games and devs would usually take advantage of that
Tbf those same games also struggle 12 gb vram at 1080p medium settings or higher, which makes the game unoptimized for everyone if you have to drop graphics that far
Ah yes this answered my comment on your other short. It’s not a 3060 ti but I mentioned my solo fan asus 3060 12 gb overclocked to 2.2ghz core clock and 8500 mhz vram, offers the same value proposition while fitting in a 7700k based minitower you can easily find with 32 gigs of vram and an SSD for 200 bucks. With DLSS Q I’m playing cyberpunk at 4k getting 40-60 fps on high settings (high SSR, ultra for low impact, sometimes ray traced shadows). I considered an external/vertical 6700 or 6750 XT but even if it could run well on my proprietary hp 500w psu, or I was willing to run it externally with a secondary power supply, it wouldn’t have offered a better experience without DLSS. Completely agree here.
If you have a 5000+ series AMD CPU and a 6700XT you can enable SAM which gives an overall boost of 10-15% depending on some aspects. 3060ti only worth it for intel or older series AMD.
SAM is on intel too now
SAM also works on ryzen 3000 cpus and the 400 series Mobos if manufacture has updated the bios to support it. Also in certain cases enabling SAM/ReSize Bar can lower performance for some games so its worth testing to see if it is of any benefit in the games you play.
You can enable re-bar on intel and nvidia too.
@@MarcsSpark correct and I believe with an nvidia card you can turn it on/off on a per game basis, so you can turn it off in games that ResizeBar would decrease performance. As far as I’m aware with Radeon cards it set globally and can’t be turned off for individual games
In FH5 1080p max/ultra/extreme everything, the 6700xt chugs 10 -11gb of vram. But god damn everything looks flawless and picture perfect just the way I like. Dang I love that card
As someone who has the 3060ti, the raytracing isn't really worth sacrificing extra v-ram but the DLSS might be, but seeing textures not load properly because it's not got the ram for me when my friends does is annoying
Zach when he sides with amd: *stands REALLY strong in his opinion*
Zach when he sides with nvidia: let me know if you disagree
Actually a nice video, I did not realize dlss was on 30 series
Dlss is on all rtx gpus
dlss 2 is on 20 and 30 series and dlss 3 (frame generation) is on 40 series
@@the_cosmiccatdlss 3 is on all cards you just don't have fg under 40 series
@@milanprb yeah thats what i meant.
thank you for not making me feel bad about my 3060TI today.
I got a refurbished Rx 6700xt for $250 from eBay this month, it's a great card. I have never cared about raytracing and FSR is great. I know people say that DLSS is better than FSR but in comparisons I've looked at I can't discern a major difference in image quality. I have used AMD for years and have never had any major driver issues.
Ray tracing is kinda irrelevant. In order for it to properly run on the 3060 ti you'll have to turn down a lot of the quality settings to begin with since it eats a lot of vram and that 8 gb isn't going to be enough. Eventually you're going to have a better experience playing a game at high settings with good fps without rt, which the 6700 xt can supply because of the 12gb of vram and the 3060 ti can't. The 6700xt just plain out performs better at high or ultra settings or with 1440p, in a lot of modern games. Doesn't matter if RT is on or off on both.
Reflex is worth mentioning too.
radeon anti-lag exists too yk
Pro tip:- Get a house first.
You could make the Same Argument with the 6700XT. Fsr works like a Dream on it, in Cyberpunk Ultra Settings, i went from 60 to 90 in quality.
i think this i the first time zach has recommended a nvidia card for "budget" gaming
Gotta disagree here but only slightly - I have a natural bias for Amd but I still think the 6700 xt would be better, as it is much newer and will continue to receive driver support and potential minor fps increases along with it. The added benefit of a new card is higher clock speeds relative to price and higher availability as it is still being produced. This will greatly impact the 3060ti in the future as support slowly fades and new cards slowly run out
I absolutely disagree. The 6700 XT outright beats the 3060 ti in everything but raytracing.
Am really impressed with 7800XT, Am sure the budget options are pretty good. Would say here it depends on price, both are currently around 300.
This really got me thinking, but last time on eBay I was able to have both, ended up going with the 3060ti as it was 50 bucks cheaper, can’t turn down on an offer like that
If they are the same fps but one has more vram, get that one.
Games advance and while they both run the same now, in the future, the vram will become more important as the cards get older.
Did he just promote RTX on a 1080p card....
I want a rtx gpu that is faster than 3070 ti and cheaper costs. Make sure it runs at 1440p over 170 fps. I want it to be able to perform better at video editing, live streaming & recording without frame drops, discord, and Running some AAA games
you cant find any except 3080 lol
since Nvidia >> Amd in terms of editing and others. 3080 is a little expensive tho
After my 1070 fried from an old PSU (9 years old), i got a 3060Ti for ultrawide gaming. So good
One thing he never considers in the "8gb vs 12gb" debate is whether the player plans to VR. More vid RAM is always better in that case.
Having used both, the current AMD FSR is as good as dlss. You don't miss out on frame generation with the AMD card. It's simply a question of whether raytracing or the extra v ram matters more, and with the fps you get with raytracing, I'll take the vram. Enable resizable bar also.
What about GTX 1080 Ti or GTX 1660 Super?
I get why some people like yourself don’t advertise DLSS, but it’s needs to be mentioned more. It just offers so much value imo. Yes FSR is good, but it seems to be a bit slower to integrate.
Yo bro you know when your prebuilt pcs are gonna be back on market? Thanks man, love your videos
Go build a pc it's easy don't buy a pre built
What’s your budget I can recommend my build for about 900 USD. It uses the RX 6700 XT
Like he said don’t buy prebuitlts
you need to consider things like bit, clock speed and cuda cores
Does B760m motherboard work with i5 12400f.
Yes
Does the lower clockspeed of 2.5 ghz of i5 12400f affect gaming performance? I am thinking of buying it.
Yeah because ray tracing and vram are completely unrelated..... 🤦
Ray tracing comes from the d.i.e while the vram is just around said d.i.e, you can have a lot of Vram and have garbage ray tracing!
@@blueboy3990 thanks the the explanation, but maybe you're not aware that ray tracing increases the memory usage, and you can have good rt and not enough vram to support it, as it's the case with some cards such as the 3070.
@@tex69420 yeah obviously but sometimes it doesn't matter, like in the 4060 16gb, it had the exact same gaming performance as the 8gb version.
@@tex69420 yeah obviously but sometimes it doesn't matter, like in the 4060 16gb, it had the exact same gaming performance as the 8gb version.
I'd stick with more memory, rt or not.
You should make the benchmarks at the best condition of both cards
(With dlss and the amd counterparts on)
Zach can you give the best rtx4070 ti and i7 14700k build 🙏
I've never had the 6700xt but the but i did have its younger brother the 5700 and when it came to creative work in davinci resolve it really struggled. I upgraded to the 3060ti and it is a night and day difference! Much smoother experience especially when editing in 4k. Not sure how the 6700xt fairs in that regard while its fairly well known the 3060ti is a workhorse when it comes to content creation
even if you want to consider VRAM there's just the fact that in a lot of professional/creative applications CUDA is just better optimized for such workloads than the computing cores on AMD cards. Though of course this is not universally true and you should always look into it but Nvidia certainly has leaps and bounds better performance in motion graphics processing, visual effects, and video editing
What specs would you recommend for a $1500 pc build I’m looking to get one for Christmas
Think you could get a 7800XT/higher, cpu platform some Intel 12th gen are dirt cheap (same 13th with sales) with a lot of speed and cores or Ryzen 7000 series to upgrade later (7600 are 210ish, 7700 are 8cores). Would try to spend on graphics card and get a decent cpu for next 3-5 years. At least 1tb (or 512gb absolute minimum) for storage, 32gb ram would be ideal (16 min). Am sure there should be a good build guide on here or pcpartpicker might have a good one made up.
Nice content but can you do a Build for a block but lil astetic Pc for Like 1800 with a good performance
Ratchet and clank crashes multiple times because of VRAM shortage on my old RX580. I can only imagine this being even worse with a much faster card that still only has 8GB. I had enough bad experiences with 8GB cards so yeah, I would pick the 12GB RX6700XT.
Hey, hopefully you read this what would you recommend I do I’m trying to upgrade my RX 460 graphics and I have a I 7-4770S
For anyone who wants to have fun with stable diffusion I recommend getting Nvidia gpu. I have Radeon and it's such a huge hurdle to get it running.
Which gpu is the compieter of the rtx 4060
If the GPU performance is close, and the price is close, why not go with the extra VRAM? My wife has a 6600, and the 8 gb of vram definitely holds it back in certain titles.
Rtx features don't really make as much of a difference at lower performance tiers like these.
You'll likely get better quality by using higher texture quality while lowering settings in 1440p on the 6700xt, and at only 8 gigs, the 3060ti likely will end up being relegated to 1080p sooner than the 6700xt. Even using dlss will be a problem because upscaling from 1080p requires memory that the 3060ti doesn't have to spare. And as fsr gets better, it will become a more viable option at 1440p, and it's less likely that new games won't have both options.
Unless you plan on upgrading again in like a year, the vram does actually matter here. Is say it's less of an issue between 12 and 16 gb with say an AMD x800 level and an RTX x070(ti) card if they're close enough in performance and price, because you can probably get away with dlss 4k with just 12gb for a while, especially until another console generation raises the amount of memory developers are targeting.
I got a 6650 xt because i couldnt find any 6700 xt, def would've went for the 700 though.
Also, 12gb vram is a huge difference, ur benching on older games while newer ones are much more intensive on vram
Had to go with a used 3060ti because a used 6700xt was almost 60-70 euros more these days. Hope its gonna last me 2-3 years
I got RX 6700 XT for 180. Worth every penny.
I game on a 1080p monitor and I would have to suggest that the Radeon is the better choice if you're on a 1080p monitor and have no intentions to upgrade to 1440p. The extre V-ram doesn't make a difference now, but it will most likely make a difference down the line.
Dlss is a good thing if you own a 1440p monitor or are about to upgrade, ray tracing however is a waste of time
I actually just had to make this decision, and the determining factor was S.A.M. Where I have a Ryzen 7 5800 CPU, I went with the 6700xt for the Smart Access Memory feature that is available if you have both an AMD CPU & GPU. It made sense to me, but I am definitely still noob when it comes to this stuff. Any opinions on if this was the right move? Or if the S.A.M. even makes a big enough difference to consider when buying? Please, Comments, let me know your thoughts.
Agree. He didnt even mention the SAM. Its the deal breaker here
Can’t argue with a tech guy
Is the 3060 TI with GDDR6X Vram actually better than the one with GDDR6 Vram
you forgot to mention that dlss and ray tracing also use vram, and 8 gb is not enough
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8GB is enough
With fsr 3 out for some games now i reckon the rx 6700 xt would be a great graphics card but if you like a visually stunning game with rt on max or something along those lines i reckon go with the 3060 12gb instead of 8gb
FSR 3 (and AMD SAM if you're using amd gpu and cpu) has left the chat
My pc has a Ryzen 7 7800x3d,but the RTX
4090 is not fitting in my budget so should I go with the Rx 7900xtx or RTX 4080.
AMD in this case.
8GB of VRAM isn't letting you do RT at a resolution that matters, even with DLSS so not really a selling point. Also, RSR and FSR exist and 99% of people will not be able to notice a difference between either of those or DLSS (when supported). VRAM is king, it will make the cards stay relevant for longer.
You cant expect to do raytracing in any of them and expect 50fps or more, and dlss is well, noisy. DLSS is actually alright if it was to work in more games but FSR and AMFM are good
I have a ryzen 5 5600g and a rx 6500 xt and 16GB's of ram and I want to upgrade my Gpu and I was thinking of getting a rx 6700 xt becuase I would like to swap to 2k gaming but I am on a budget of about £320-£370. What do you think I should do? Also your videos are great 🗿
Hey zach i cant decide between the 4070ti and 7900xt and trust me ive seen everything from performance to vram and even future proofing but what is keeping on the edge is fortnite which runs better on the 4070ti on competitive settings which stops me from pulling the trigger on the 7900xt. ( Currently they are both 750 usd)
Wait, you're willing to spill that money just to play Fortnite???
My brother in Christ, why do you need to get something THAT expensive? The only way I'd see that working well would be if you had a 1440p/4k monitor
All of that just for fortnite😭
Do you care about lower power draw, temps, and better rt, go for 4070ti. If not 7900xt. Also vram shouldn’t be an issue in fortnite
@@CersionX thx
I just upgraded to a 7900XT 20gb from a 3060ti with 12gb. You can get 12gb in a 3060ti
Zack should I get the RTX 3070 Ti or the RX 6800
I have a 5800x and 750w psu.
Your future self should debate with your past self and make one cohesive video on which card to choose. Price being the same the 3060ti might be better for some but the 6700xt is normally the blind pick regardless of price.
I actually had 6700xt and fortunately have had the chance to buy a 3060ti and 3060ti is actually also better for 3D in blender cuz of better support for nvidia
I think it depends on the games you play since some do require a bit more VRAM
As a casual AMD fan, this time i agree, partially. Because VRAM and a tiny amount performance is good but it is not the best so if they are roughly the same, go with 3060 ti
What i disagree is
Personally i value my vram, i prefer at least 12gb
But i got some money on my pocket, gotta buy a 7600xt, no disagreements are cared, i dont like 4060 or any 30 series card or nvidia
hey zach like the video u posted i had a quick question is there anyway to connect 2 fan hub or 2 ARGB hub on a b550-A board cause my chassis fan and aio are diff brand (NZXT and Segotep)
We got Zach recomending nvidia before GTA 6
I have a ryzen 5 5600g and a rx 6500 xt and 16GB's of ram and I want to upgrade my Gpu and I was thinking of getting a rx 6700 xt becuase I would like to swap to 2k gaming but I am on a budget of about £320-£370. What do you think I should do?
Does the i5-13400F with the 4070 Ti give a bottle lag, and is this good for Minecraft/are 16GB Ram (DDR4) enough or are 32GB Ram better/needed?
Many games nowadays require more VRAM even in 1080p, and even more games at 1440p. Even DLSS looks quite bad at 1080p, and even at 1440p, it's only at 4K where upscaling looks decent. In many new titles the RT performance of 3060ti and 3070 is very bad again because of the VRAM. Even if the 6700XT was more expensive (which it isnt) it'd be worth it.
What is better for gaming 4060TI or RX 6700XT in gaming performance and by how simple it is to update the graphics drivers for a beginner because i do not want to ruin my GPU with bad drivers
ive been playing baldurs gate 3 for a while now and its always eating around 8.5gb of vram, id rather have my 6700xt play games for the next years without worrying about vram
6000 series are starting to get cheaper in my place, but RTX and nvidia cards in general, not much. Also 6700 XT had a slightly powerful raw power, while also consume a little more, kinda close the deal for me to pick it up. As long as you don't play RT games primarily, RX series is not a bad deal even for now.
I got a used rx 6700xt almost like new for 170 and the only other 3060ti in that price range used a was from a unheard of brand
Hey ZTT, Idk how long this will last, but apparently the 970 Evo Plus 1TB is more expensive than the 990 Pro 1TB. 970 Evo Plus is $89 but the 990 Pro is $79.
For a boot drive on a gaming-oriented system, 970 evo plus is already plenty.
Even when i was planning to build my pc which i have to ask my good repair shop you have to worry about what GDDR a VRAM have but more VRAM is good afaik the current GDDR for VRAM is GDDR6
Depends on budget in my opinion
should i get a $500 3080 or a $550 4070??
Bro's been saying that the 6700xt is better than 3060ti and was on par with the 4060 for months
Used 3060 ti or new 6700 xt
Used 3060 ti they go for some great prices used
If you need nvidia and their features or rt then go for the rtx 3060 ti,if you don’t need nvidia or their features or rt then go for the Rx 6700 xt
Used 3070’s can be found for 250 if you look long enough
@@UnboundiingI recently bought a 3070 for 220 and I've had no problems with it. Honestly I think it's one of the best deals I've ever had when shopping
Bro i have question pls tell me the best build for csgo and valorant these types of games and the build should get over 400 fps
What about the 4080 Super vs the RX 7900XTX
Finally, Zach promotes a Nvidia Card.
How bad is a intel i5 6600k with a rtx 2060 in terms of bottlenecking?
I only bought Nvidia card because i do care about Ray Tracing alot. Some people say they can't see the difference but for me it is true game changer. Otherwise i would choose AMD
Charlie is going to have to beat Sneako’s ass and hide the Bible if God is watching
I run a 3060 12 gb, runs anything I throw at it at 1440 144. If you want ram amount I’d pick it over a ti or at that point just go the next step up
but not all ~
@@TheAscendedHuman that’s what I’m saying, I got my card for 280 since it was open box at Best Buy and I’m not at a point where I can afford going middle upper tier. I’m focusing more on cpu related hardware before I do another major card
@@penonton4260 wym?
Runs all 1440p 144hz? Youre surely not throwing strong titles. Try to run rdr2, cyberpunk, spider man and youll not see more than 75fps at ultra
@@master-le5cd I don’t play spider man but with rdr2 I play most high some ultra and a few minimum and it runs 120+, cyberpunk I only have trouble in certain areas that are DENSE, and I don’t play with rt and not everything at ultra, I play games like AC, titanfall 2, siege, and division 2. The only games I can’t consistently get high fps is squad and ground branch, they’ve yet to optimize those games
I prefer the 6700xt just for tht extra vram buffer especially with vram usage in modern games, and I dont use ray tracing and am perfectly fine with fsr
Hi Zack, so I am wondering if it would be ok to buy a ryzen 5 5500 and a 7600, and pair them for about a year and then get a good upgrade on the cpu, so start of small to get the pc done, then upgrade more towards the future.
Can you list the components that would be required to make a 3080 build
Dude, when we re complaining about vram, we are talking about future proving, unless you are willing to upgrade each year.