Another current G2 owner who's on the hunt for DCS. It was between this and the Bigscreen Beyond, but you've convinced me on this unit. I will say when watching the recording, you can identify where the line is when foveated rendering kicks in towards the sides of the display, but in the real world use I can't imagine noticing it. Compared to how awful the G2 looks at the edges it will still feel like a massive improvement.
10 % issues of VR headsets (included delivery, sending back, emailing with supports) 10 % playing….so true. Hey, but we are living for small happy moments 😅
It is a shame that we are paying thousands of dollars for the hardware only to be tweaking everything because it runs all just like a bad beta version. I‘m so frustrated and annoyed. Once by MFSF - because check out condor soaring simulator which runs butter smooth in Vr - and once by Pimax. You can‘t tweak rubbish lenses…
Looking for something to replace my Reverb G2 before it bricks. Running it with a 3060 TI. This pretty much seals my decision to go with a Pimax Crystal Light. By far the best settings video I've ever seen. Subscribed.
I usually flee DLSS for VR simulation. On MFS2020 with your settings, gauges are still readable and the landscape is gorgeous. From an ugly 45 fps @80% resolution to gorgeous 55 fps @100% resolution with your guide. Witchcraft ! Thanks a lot ! (amd 7800x3D / RTX 4090 owner)
Great video and some interesting settings to try there. I'm personally not a fan of DLSS in VR but it certainly helps performance. Keep up the stellar content. Best wishes.
Thank you so much for this video! I didn't know about the foveated rendering and my vr experience has improved a lot. Now I can play with a good resolution and good fps!
Thank you! This is informative and easy to follow. Even if I don’t have one of the graphics cards featured in this video, it provides a great reference point from which to determine where I should start. You’re the best!
Agreed about quad views for MSFS. I’m playing a lot more DCS these days because of that. With a well tuned Crystal, I can get 90 fps and supesampling. For those not aware, there is a wishlist topic for MSFS and we should all vote it up! Hopefully already planned for MSFS 2024.
my doughts about that video. 1. Crystal light does no have eye tracking and furthermore the OpenXR Toolkit does working together with the light version. Beside I saw only 10sec for update each single line as you open a line is not userfriendly. The light version works great (with RX4090 ) without any tweaking but it needs improvment on the driver due to problems on the tracking mode.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thinking about getting a pimax crystal light as an intro to DCS VR and wasn't sure if my 3080 can manage. Looks like its good enough until the 5000 series releases.
I've only had a moment in DCS since optimizing with these settings, and holy batman I think the sharpening setting in Nvidia control panel fixed that "blurry long distance" aspect of DCS. If this holds and isn't placebo it is going to help spotting and dogfighting tremendously!
Thanks a lot for this. It does confirm that I could run DCS on my 3080. Not in a rush, but the looming G2 deadline concerns me and I’m seeking a viable alternative. It would seem that the Crystal Light does trump the Quest 3 after all. So much for the naysayers on my post on your previous video.
If I already owned a Quest3, I'd only be updating for the increase in clarity (twice the pixels per eye), however, if I owned a G2 or a Quest2 and was only doing PCVR (not standalone Meta stuff) then it'd be a no-brainer to go for the Light IMHO.
@@tallymouse I have the G2, perfectly happy with it in all honesty. I’m just thinking ahead to when it’s switched off by Microsoft, which I think is scandalous. Switching off perfectly good hardware that wasn’t cheap is really poor. They don’t switch off old X-boxes. I can’t afford a new headset and a new GPU, but I’m happy to get a headset that would benefit from a later upgrade to the GPU in future.
Very helpful. FYI, turning off Anistropic Filtering in MSFS, and turning it on in Nvidia control panel gives a very nice little performance boost with my 3080.
@@tallymouse awesome, thanks! My PCL should arrive in a week or two and that updated guide will be very helpful for me--especially coming from a Reverb G2.
@@tallymouse Thank you so much for doing what you do for people, you save hair loss. LOL. I'm waiting for you before I get the new Pimax Play software.
Nice Video. I am rocken a 4090, accept my CPU is only a I9 9900K. Not sure how much of a difference my settings will be compared to the performance your getting but I'm hopefull it will be close to it. I am also using a Pimax Crystal OG and soon trying the Larger FOV Lenses that should have already been shipped.
Ok, some of my year long obsession notes regarding msfs settings. Shadows batter cpu and fps. Put them at low, the lot. It isnt worth it, and isnt noticeable. Ambient inclusion off. Raymaeched off. Light shafts low. All other cubemap and shadow map lowest figure setting. Use autofps. Set your highest and lowest. Massive difference! Everthing else high and ultra. 4090/7800x3d. Persinally i will chop down the shadows and stuff above in order to eliminate rhe need for FFR. I really dont want that fuzzynes at the edges of the eye. This is really a very good service to VR users. Really like you tallymouse.
Tally.... if i look out the side of the plane upon takeoff, and say i was at 36fps, is is smooth? Because i have the quest3 and use 36fps asw on - i see 72hz/fps. I was never able to use asw off, as it produced ghosting. Was this ghosting the low framerate of 36fps...or something else? 36fps in 2d is perfectly fine for me. But in 3d vr, its so much more different perhaps? Please help me mange my expectations.
Great feedback! I've been messing around with 8k shadows recently, as I got annoyed with the cruddy shark-tooth shadows marching across my cockpit - however, I agree, shadows are a killer!
@@tallymouseAhhh yes, agreed on the "tooth shadows" in cockpit. Forgot abou that one. Yes that one high, the rest low and even off. Tally. I am still not clear how the pimax light will perform at 36 or 45fps out the side of the aircraft. Is it smooth at those figures? You said you would see what you can do? Can you show this please 🙏 I would even pay you for your time and service for this. So...just a view to the left or right upon takeoff with 36 or 45. Can the little mouse with huge IPD manage this feat? 🎉❤ Name the price... i will happily pay via paypal link for this sevice to humanity.
@@tallymouse Tally....that would be so good of you. I really want to thank you. You've twinkled like a star amongst the darkness. Waiting excitedly. ❤️
My pimax crystal light will be here on Wed. Coming from a quest3 I'm expecting great things. 4090 13900k 32GB ram. £750 on Ebay (new). No controllers. Very excited.
@speedvr829 if you set your IPD and things still feel wonky, remember that there are "per eye" IPD settings in Pimax Play itself.. important as very few people have truly symmetrical eyes!
Great work! I already got my settings dialed in, having an original Crystal (not light). Quadview makes so much difference for the fps. (Having a i9 13900k+RTX4090). But I didn't know about the image sharpening setting in nVidia control panel. Will check that out. I really miss my Almalence plug in i DCS :)
@@tallymouse I think that was the issue, I saw it was greyed and jumped the gun before reading the text underneath with the link 😅 Having an issue at the moment though where DCS boots in VR mode and my headset tracks for the game because I can see it move on the screen mirror. But looking through the headset I just see the space place that acts as a screen saver…
Thank you for this video on setup. I was wondering if you have ran into issues when turning your head side to side in DCS. In the cockpit it seems like the view shakes until you stop moving. Where the labels in the cockpit are unreadable while moving. Trying to iron out that issue.
this is an amazing guide and i have learned to optimize my systems accordingly because of it. But i have a question wondering if this is normal, while in dcs vr i see very defined lines in shape of an rectangle where my foveated rendering is taking effect. Is that normal?
It’s been mentioned a few times, but for some people it appears that image sharpening is shown in percentages rather than numerical values. What would you suggest the best percentage setting should be?
Excellent video, thank you. A quick question: is Quadviews necessary for MSFS as well? If so, are the settings shown for DCS applicable for MSFS for the 3080 case? I really appreciate your help.
I noticed a change in your OpenXR settings for the 4090 from OG Crystal to Crystal Light. Would you recommend these newer settings for the OG Crystal also? CAS 80%, Middle res 1/2 & Turbo On?
@@tallymouse Thank you. Any chance you will cover MSFS 2024? Right now I have it set to the same as your MSFS 2020 recommendations and getting around 40-43 FPS compared to 55-60 FPS for MSFS 2020. I’m guessing because of lack of QuadViews and better graphics in 2024. Mainly interested in what my OpenXR settings should be.
@@tallymouse Love it! You deserve much more followers. You helped me out with so many issues (from USB, Loading Issues, OPEN XR and so on) - keep it up.
@@tallymouse Right-oh, good to know. Thanks for doing the work. I've got a Crystal Light coming (allegedly), and I'm considering upgrading the GPU from 3090, tis should help in that decision.
I just noticed there are no OpenXR settings here - were those left as default everything? No CAS for sharpening needed? or NIS for re-sizing? Turbo mode? Thx - - Mine is scheduled to arrive today!!
I’m seeing the same ‘Sharpen’ and %, and he did mention we might see this, but he did neglect to tell us what % to set.. should we set 25% to match the 0.25 setting that Tally mouse said?
Good job m8. Very informative vide but I have one question is this, as you call it native resolution 4312x5102 per eye or combined and how this is related to display resolution 2880x2880? Thanks.
All modern VR headsets render a much larger image for the headset to accommodate for the distortion profile. That is then displayed on the 2880x2880 per eye.
I would start with the 4060Ti setting, and then slowly turn things up until you're starting to see a noticeable drop in fps. The 7900gre is closest to a 4070 Super, so the 4060Ti would be a great place to start!
Very good stuff🐭 My Problem: MSFS 2020, 7800x3d/4090, using Pimax Open XR and OpenXR toolkit, 90HZ, half refresh rate, no SS, Maximum, Turbo Mode on, 46xx Resolution in OXRtoolKit with DLSS Quality, FFR preset, MSFS with high/ultra, TLOD 130. Sharpness and colours are amazing but when i move my head a little bit or the plane itself, the Cockpit and the landscape become blurry and some stutters too. I tried different settings, nothing helped. Any idea, what i am missing or doing wrong? Any help appreciated…. Solid locked 45 FPS/90 HZ or 36 FPS/72 HZ, no problems there.
Tallly Mouse I think you made a mistake with your motherboard specs. I’m sure you have an ASUS Maximus XIII Hero with an 11900KF and not an VIII series. Glad to see that the Crystal Light runs well on a 11900K with a 4090 GPU! Thanks!
Thank you for your informative videos! Question: I enthusiastically use Motion Reprojection with my G2 in MSFS - 45 FPS without vs. with Motion Reprojection makes a huge difference for me. What does Pimax offer here? Is there a working solution? I keep reading about Smart Smoothing, but it either doesn't work or creates unsightly artifacts and is actually turned off by everyone. That almost sounds like a dealbreaker to me. How smooth do you perceive the image in MSFS on the Light compared maybe to the G2 with Motion Reprojection?
Hello any help would be appreciated I just got this head set upgraded from the quest 2. The picture looks great it runs sooth as well. What I am noticing is when I move my head the left and right outer limits kind of bring a black boarder with it. There isn’t any type of shutter or any thing. Is this normal I never noticed any thing like that in the quest. It does it in falcon bms and dcs. Thanks
@@tallymouse sorry for the ignorance. Are you talking about room light frequency also not seeing motion smooth. I see motion comp but there isn’t any thing in that drop down. Thanks
Great video! From what I understood, you don´t set any antialiasing option in DCS, just use the settings from the NVidia control panel, am I right? Did you notice any difference (performance or quality) compared to set MSAA in DCS options?
Note that I am also using supersampling through QuadViews Companion in the Foveate region - so it's a bit like running MSAA over the central portion of the image only, so has better performance than running MSAA over the whole image.
@@tallymouse Hi Tally, its a great video! Thank you for the Sharpening tip in Nvidia. I have quest3 and 4080. Only thing that bothers me is shimmering in MSAA. When you play online you can't use DLSS or DLAA due to spotting. Does Quadviews work with Quest3? Many thanks in advance. (In description it say : Works with Pimax Crystal, Pimax 12k, Quest Pro, and Varjo Aero, Varjo XR3.)
For me, 120 hz is causing problems. I often need to reboot the computer for frequency change to work as the change itself causes Windows to totally freeze.
Is the refresh rate not tied to a game Profile? I have to manually go into PP Devices and change it when I switch game from DCS to MSFS? That seems strange..
That's what I do. However, more recently I've been running 120Hz and then locking to half-rate in PimaxXR, as i've found a solid 60Hz in both MSFS and DCS works very well. I believe the issue is that when you change refresh rate, the HMD needs to reboot, so if it's tied to a game profile, then you game will start while the HMD is rebooting..
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Received my Pimax Crystal light, and although i have a set of dodgy lenses (being replaced by new ones from Pimax) everything else is good. I will say though, that FPS does matter here. At 36fps the whole world in MSFS "nano-judders". Its a slide show on a "micro-level". Same for 40 and 45fps. Its only until i set half -lock of 120hz and get a solid 60fps that i get a smooth acceptable flight. And i fly slow GA aircraft. Pimax light is great, but QC issues on their lenses needs tightening up. If my replacement lenses show up distorted like my first set, I wont be happy.
Yeah, I'm not sure what is going on with the lenses. As far as I'm aware, they're made in a precision optics factory in Poland - so I can't see why there should be so much variation between them. I see a few people over on the Discord have had to have new lenses sent to them too..
@@tallymouse Hi, thanks for the reply Tally. Do you know whether their replacment lenses fixed their issues? The thing i worry about, is if they turn up and still dont look good. Only other option right now is the somnium VR1. But the price of the damn thing is insane. 3K all in for just the unit and eye tracking. Cannot justify that much on VR.
The Aero's great, but I sold mine about 5 months after purchasing the OG Crystal, as I found the Crystal has a much large VFOV. The Crystal Light doesn't have eye-tracking, so there's that - unlike the OG Crystal. The colors are somewhat brighter on the Crystal Light, and it has local dimming too.
Have you tried disabling HAGS? With the Crystal Light the inside-out tracking is done by Pimax Play (PiService.exe) and if that's pushed into the background because of HAGS then it could affect your tracking latency.
Wait, if DCS looks like that on a 4060ti, what would Elite Dangerous look like? I was about to go with Pimax’s recommendation and buy a $1000 card. But if it looks this good with a 4060ti, why do I need it? The 4060ti is on their “Minimum” list
@@emkayusa remember that ED doesn't have quadviews, so you'll lose some performance there - but I'd definitely consider running on a 4060Ti, especially if you can turn down the resolution a little if need-be!
Tally, in Quad Views Companion I've found that having the Turbo box Checked seems to cause some stutter in the HMD, have you noticed anything like that?
If you're using QuadViews, ensure that you blank/default your OXRT OSD settings, as QuadViews settings can cause issues with OXRT settings if they are not default.
@@tallymouse To confirm... Tally, are you saying that you do NOT use OpenXR Toolkit for these tests and other software settings.. OR.. is it that you use OXRT but return to all default values? Thank you.
I have a an RTX 3080. I tried your settings for DCS. It’s perfect. My FPS jumped from 40-50 all the way to 71, I’m really happy. For MSFS not so much. With your MSFS settings I got 10FPS. Here are a few oddities. In your OpenXR settings (v1.3.2 same as mine) after Foveated Rendering setting (which I set as recommended to Custom) I don’t get the entry “Eye tracking” set to ON. I can see in the sim that eye tracking is ON. Just reporting it here just in case you recognize something stupid I did… Second issue is that in the MSFS VR settings for “Shaddow Maps” I can go only up to 2048 with my RTX3080. Your setting is 8192. So my question is are the MSFS settings really for 3080? Thank you for your help.
@@tallymouse what an incredible setting. At 4096, in my case, the MSFS FPS jumped to 40-50 depending on the flight. Over New York it's 40+. Looks great! Thank you again!!!
i cant get any image on the headset in dcs while using open xr runtime. but on my monitor i can see it takes the imput movements from my headset etc liek if its working but inside the headset i only see that space image from pymaxx, any tips?
I have exactly the same issue and i found out that when quad views is enabled both in pimax play and dcs i i have no video in the HMD. Disabling quad views in either fixes the issue but i dont think quad views is working for me for some reason.
the problem with this video is that it is not an example of the classic use of DCS starting from the MP, up to the clouds which are totally absent here
Hm, but nVidia Image Scaling is nVidia's older, general, non-game optimized upsampler (unlike the better DLSS), so why would one use that? If you activate the Overlay Indicator, it would show a green "NIS" ingame if upsampling is active and a blue "NIS", if only the sharpening is active. I haven't tried it for VR yet, but my understanding of this tech is, that it works only for 2D? That's why OpenXR Toolkit has a NIS feature built in, to do basically the same. So, if Sharpening is all you want, wouldn't the ingame (DCS, don't know about MSFS) setting work as well. Or actually work instead of the driver setting? Not trying to bash your video, but seriously asking, if I'm just mistaken. Cheers!
It looks like even a 4090 is a little underpowered for what the Crystal Light can really do, which is incredible. Hopefully the 50-series brings a whole new level of performance
@Deinecraft If you turn on QuadViews and enable eye tracking in PimaxXR, then IT doesn't know that you don't have eye-tracking.. so you can then use QuadViews in DCS as a FFR method, which works well!
It does not have eye-tracking, hence why it's inexpensive, however, you can trick QuadViews into working and use it as a very controllable/sophisticated FFR system.
It does not have eye-tracking, hence why it's inexpensive, however, you cam trick QuadViews into working and use it as a very controllable/sophisticated FFR system.
@@tallymouse I'm currently deciding between the Quest 3 or the Crystal Light, I ordered a Quest 3 but might return it after seeing your video. I mainly play DCS in VR. Do you recommend I upgrade to the Crystal Light 3? Is it worth the extra money over a Quest 3? My CPU is 11900K i9 and my GPU is a 3080Ti
@Adrian3712 i have the Quest3 as well. I have a Wifi6E AP located 1m from the back of my head, and I use the Q3 through Virtual Desktop to get around the compression and through put limitations of the link cable. It's very good, however, even with everything cranked to the max, I can only just read the MFDs without having to lean forward. The Q3's lenses are good, but the lack of DP port combined with panels that have only half the pixels become really obvious when you have the Crystal Light dialed in and working. Especially in DCS. If you were a MSFS fellow, then the Q3 had other advantages like the MR PassThrough, which is kinda cool...
@@tallymouse Thanks for your reply! I got the link cable, I was worried about compression and limited capabilities of the link cable. I’m still scratching my head on what to do. Keep my Oculus Quest 3(haven’t opened it yet just in case there is a restocking fee) or return the quest 3 and get the Crystal Light. I like that the Crystal Light is better suited for DCS and based on what you’re saying I’m leaning towards that! However, I do know that my PC would handle the Quest 3 easily compared to the Crystal Light. Given my specs mentioned above(11900k CPU and 3080Ti GPU) what would you recommend for me?
@@Adrian3712 I still run a 11900KF with a water block.. overclocked.. and it just works! I guess I won the silicon lottery. I purchased it sight unseen on the interwebs from a Pawn shop in Queens, NY, for silly money.. and it worked.. what a win! If you can return the Q3, and lose minimal money, I'd go with the Crystal Light.. even if you have to turn settings/resolution down initially, the PCL gives you the opportunity to scale with GPU i.e. you could upgrade your system GPU in the future and the PCL will just keep unlocking more capability, whereas the G3 is capped because of the way it connects to your PC and it's lower resolution panels... If I'd already owned a Q3 and couldn't return it, it'd be a hard-sell to upgrade to the PCL.. it IS better.. but at what cost? However, you're in that enviable position where you can effectively still choose... plus, like me, you're primarily a DCS guy.. in that case, and based on my personal experience, I'd go with the Crystal Light.
@cuttheloop Depends: if you have no stuttering etc with HAGS on, then leave it on, as that also let's you use DLSS properly. If you encounter stuttering or shudders in tracking, try turning HAGS off.
After playing DCS on the Crystal Light for a week and deciding to tweak it for stuttering, I followed this guide. Now its unplayable. It doesnt display on the Pimax, only the boxed version on the regular monitor. I originally had Pimax Play and Pimax XR and it ran fine but now I DL the Quadviews and Quadviews companion and OpenXR toolkit and it destroyed my game. Beware.
@@vadenkwin You have to install OpenXR Toolkit, PimaxXR, then QuadViews in that order, and set PimaxXR to be the OpenXR runtime, otherwise the order of elements in the OpenXR Layers will be incorrect.
You don't enable "Prefer framerate over latency" ?? I thought it was the equivalent of Turbo Mode in OpenXRToolkit and that it should always be enabled to the best framerate!? Edit: I see that you have it enabled in the toolkit itself. I think it's the same thing, but do not enable both.
Yes - you'll be on the lower end of things, but it'll work. Remember that you can use OpenXR Toolkit to lower the effective resolution slightly and not notice much difference in quality. You can also do this in SteamVR, or in Pimax Play: setting "balanced" instead of "Maximum" resolution.
All great, but these settings goes out of the window if one tries to play DCS for real, on some MP server or real mission with multiple units, not a free flight on Caucasus map that doesn't push CPU/GPU anywhere near to what we could have on more modern maps like Syria, or so. Thanks for the video.
...but that could be said for any VR headset. I run my own server as I have discovered that many MP servers are run on low spec machines with asymmetric low bandwidth connections.
@@tallymouse Yes, we could say that about any headset, I agree. It's just : when I see videos like this, it feels like it's not showing all the truth, no matter what headset. Many people could buy a headset based on what they see in the video and then be disappointed when trying to do more than just a free flight on Caucasus map. That's why I believe, videos like this one should also include a sample from busy and demanding DCS environment. Thank you for hearing me out, have a great time flying.
fps changing from 50 to 72 in msfs and says running "smooth"?!! NOT! In my experience if the the framerate is not locked to no more than 1fps variation there WILL be microstutter!
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Another current G2 owner who's on the hunt for DCS. It was between this and the Bigscreen Beyond, but you've convinced me on this unit.
I will say when watching the recording, you can identify where the line is when foveated rendering kicks in towards the sides of the display, but in the real world use I can't imagine noticing it. Compared to how awful the G2 looks at the edges it will still feel like a massive improvement.
Thank you for this video. Extremely helpful for us non 4090 users. I found this after posting on one of your other videos. Very nice. 👍🏻
VR and Flight Simming (for me) - 40% scouring the internet, reading tips and watching videos, 40% configuring, upgrading, tweaking, 20% (or less) actually PLAYING
@@HuntressMedia 😂
10 % issues of VR headsets (included delivery, sending back, emailing with supports) 10 % playing….so true. Hey, but we are living for small happy moments 😅
It is a shame that we are paying thousands of dollars for the hardware only to be tweaking everything because it runs all just like a bad beta version.
I‘m so frustrated and annoyed. Once by MFSF - because check out condor soaring simulator which runs butter smooth in Vr - and once by Pimax. You can‘t tweak rubbish lenses…
Looking for something to replace my Reverb G2 before it bricks. Running it with a 3060 TI. This pretty much seals my decision to go with a Pimax Crystal Light. By far the best settings video I've ever seen. Subscribed.
I usually flee DLSS for VR simulation. On MFS2020 with your settings, gauges are still readable and the landscape is gorgeous. From an ugly 45 fps @80% resolution to gorgeous 55 fps @100% resolution with your guide. Witchcraft !
Thanks a lot !
(amd 7800x3D / RTX 4090 owner)
Great video and some interesting settings to try there. I'm personally not a fan of DLSS in VR but it certainly helps performance. Keep up the stellar content. Best wishes.
Thank you, sir! Hopefully it'll get new Crystal Light users started on the wondeful journey of endless tweeking! 😂
Great video, as always. Thanks for putting this out.
Good stuff! This will be a huge time saver for so many folk venturing into the world of Crystal clarity!
Thank you, kind sir!
Thank you so much for this video! I didn't know about the foveated rendering and my vr experience has improved a lot. Now I can play with a good resolution and good fps!
Thank you! This is informative and easy to follow. Even if I don’t have one of the graphics cards featured in this video, it provides a great reference point from which to determine where I should start. You’re the best!
You are very welcome, sir!
Agreed about quad views for MSFS. I’m playing a lot more DCS these days because of that. With a well tuned Crystal, I can get 90 fps and supesampling. For those not aware, there is a wishlist topic for MSFS and we should all vote it up! Hopefully already planned for MSFS 2024.
I used your video to rapidly set up a review kit. I took the liberty of mentioning you and placed a link to this page. I'm a fan. Keep at it please.
THX! I will try a performance test with the crystal and crystal light!
my doughts about that video. 1. Crystal light does no have eye tracking and furthermore the OpenXR Toolkit does working together with the light version. Beside I saw only 10sec for update each single line as you open a line is not userfriendly.
The light version works great (with RX4090 ) without any tweaking but it needs improvment on the driver due to problems on the
tracking mode.
Exactly what I was looking for. Thinking about getting a pimax crystal light as an intro to DCS VR and wasn't sure if my 3080 can manage. Looks like its good enough until the 5000 series releases.
Well done. Fantastic piece of work. Thank you
Very NiceTallymouse. I like it very much! Can't wait the light arives from the postman.
Much needed. Thank you sir !
I've only had a moment in DCS since optimizing with these settings, and holy batman I think the sharpening setting in Nvidia control panel fixed that "blurry long distance" aspect of DCS. If this holds and isn't placebo it is going to help spotting and dogfighting tremendously!
Thanks a lot for this. It does confirm that I could run DCS on my 3080. Not in a rush, but the looming G2 deadline concerns me and I’m seeking a viable alternative. It would seem that the Crystal Light does trump the Quest 3 after all. So much for the naysayers on my post on your previous video.
If I already owned a Quest3, I'd only be updating for the increase in clarity (twice the pixels per eye), however, if I owned a G2 or a Quest2 and was only doing PCVR (not standalone Meta stuff) then it'd be a no-brainer to go for the Light IMHO.
@@tallymouse I have the G2, perfectly happy with it in all honesty. I’m just thinking ahead to when it’s switched off by Microsoft, which I think is scandalous. Switching off perfectly good hardware that wasn’t cheap is really poor. They don’t switch off old X-boxes.
I can’t afford a new headset and a new GPU, but I’m happy to get a headset that would benefit from a later upgrade to the GPU in future.
@@_od_7825 it's crazy what's happening with WMR!
Wow this is so awesome! This makes me even more excited to get this headset. I’m coming from a Reverb G2.
It connects every time. You are going to be happy coming from the G2!
@@tallymouse I see what ya did there. If you know you know. ;). Also, Thanks for creating this video.
Very helpful. FYI, turning off Anistropic Filtering in MSFS, and turning it on in Nvidia control panel gives a very nice little performance boost with my 3080.
Great tip! Thank you!
Thank you! This gives me hope I will do well with my 4070ti and i5-13600 when my Crystal Light arrives in 8 weeks or so...gonna be a long wait 🤪
How did it turn out?
Great video! Would love to see an updated guide with the new Pimax software--especially now that OpenXR and Quad Views have native support.
@@Vortex31415 I'm on it..
@@tallymouse awesome, thanks! My PCL should arrive in a week or two and that updated guide will be very helpful for me--especially coming from a Reverb G2.
@@tallymouse Thank you so much for doing what you do for people, you save hair loss. LOL. I'm waiting for you before I get the new Pimax Play software.
For someone who would like to try both simulators but is put off with the settings. I thank you ❤
Very nice work. Thank you.
Nice Video. I am rocken a 4090, accept my CPU is only a I9 9900K. Not sure how much of a difference my settings will be compared to the performance your getting but I'm hopefull it will be close to it. I am also using a Pimax Crystal OG and soon trying the Larger FOV Lenses that should have already been shipped.
Once you're used to them, you'll love the BIG FOV lenses.. at least I do!
Ok, some of my year long obsession notes regarding msfs settings.
Shadows batter cpu and fps. Put them at low, the lot. It isnt worth it, and isnt noticeable. Ambient inclusion off. Raymaeched off. Light shafts low. All other cubemap and shadow map lowest figure setting.
Use autofps. Set your highest and lowest. Massive difference!
Everthing else high and ultra. 4090/7800x3d.
Persinally i will chop down the shadows and stuff above in order to eliminate rhe need for FFR. I really dont want that fuzzynes at the edges of the eye.
This is really a very good service to VR users.
Really like you tallymouse.
Tally.... if i look out the side of the plane upon takeoff, and say i was at 36fps, is is smooth? Because i have the quest3 and use 36fps asw on - i see 72hz/fps. I was never able to use asw off, as it produced ghosting. Was this ghosting the low framerate of 36fps...or something else?
36fps in 2d is perfectly fine for me. But in 3d vr, its so much more different perhaps?
Please help me mange my expectations.
Great feedback!
I've been messing around with 8k shadows recently, as I got annoyed with the cruddy shark-tooth shadows marching across my cockpit - however, I agree, shadows are a killer!
@@tallymouseAhhh yes, agreed on the "tooth shadows" in cockpit. Forgot abou that one. Yes that one high, the rest low and even off.
Tally. I am still not clear how the pimax light will perform at 36 or 45fps out the side of the aircraft. Is it smooth at those figures? You said you would see what you can do? Can you show this please 🙏 I would even pay you for your time and service for this. So...just a view to the left or right upon takeoff with 36 or 45.
Can the little mouse with huge IPD manage this feat? 🎉❤
Name the price... i will happily pay via paypal link for this sevice to humanity.
@@andyakarudolfhessiansack7936 no worries.. i'll make a short video and upload it unlisted and send you the link!
@@tallymouse Tally....that would be so good of you. I really want to thank you. You've twinkled like a star amongst the darkness.
Waiting excitedly. ❤️
My pimax crystal light will be here on Wed.
Coming from a quest3 I'm expecting great things.
4090
13900k
32GB ram.
£750 on Ebay (new).
No controllers.
Very excited.
@speedvr829 if you set your IPD and things still feel wonky, remember that there are "per eye" IPD settings in Pimax Play itself.. important as very few people have truly symmetrical eyes!
Great work! I already got my settings dialed in, having an original Crystal (not light). Quadview makes so much difference for the fps. (Having a i9 13900k+RTX4090). But I didn't know about the image sharpening setting in nVidia control panel. Will check that out. I really miss my Almalence plug in i DCS :)
Me too.. that's why I started looking into poor-mans' replacements..
I was hoping for a side by side comparison between the cards but I suppose I could use that single adjustment as a reference point
Actually quite difficult to fit all those details side by side on a 4k screen!
t=3:20 Allow use of the eye tracker? Here we talk about the Pimax Crystal Light right? But the Crystal Light doesn't has eye tracking. I just wonder.
@@Ratzefazze it enables you to use QuadViews as a very configurable FFR
@@tallymouse ok, I see
Unfortunately no benchmark using 7900XTX. I would expect it about the 4080 level in VR.
Thank you! Its an good sweep of cards.
Annoyingly ive 7800 yay team red.
For me the quadviews thing in XR is greyed out? I thought it was only something the Crystal Super could do with eye tracking?
The OP Crystal can do it too. Just checking, do you have QuadViews installed in addition to OpenXR Toolkit and PimaxXR?
@@tallymouse
I think that was the issue, I saw it was greyed and jumped the gun before reading the text underneath with the link 😅
Having an issue at the moment though where DCS boots in VR mode and my headset tracks for the game because I can see it move on the screen mirror.
But looking through the headset I just see the space place that acts as a screen saver…
@@Bullet4MyEnemy saw your post about the vr headset. Looking forward to your videos about it!
Thank you for this video on setup. I was wondering if you have ran into issues when turning your head side to side in DCS. In the cockpit it seems like the view shakes until you stop moving. Where the labels in the cockpit are unreadable while moving. Trying to iron out that issue.
@@kahos74ustruggles70 Disable motion smoothing in Pimax Play
this is an amazing guide and i have learned to optimize my systems accordingly because of it. But i have a question wondering if this is normal, while in dcs vr i see very defined lines in shape of an rectangle where my foveated rendering is taking effect. Is that normal?
@@amoongsus9142 Yes. Try using the Companion to increase the transition region to 30% and see if that helps
Thank you for the video. At 1min 20s can I ask what graphics settings you are using in DCS? And is that in VR? Looks amazing.
Ahh.. this was in MSFS2020.. settings at the end of this video: ruclips.net/video/9Y-AyG3QzlA/видео.html
It’s been mentioned a few times, but for some people it appears that image sharpening is shown in percentages rather than numerical values. What would you suggest the best percentage setting should be?
@remmet 25% seems to work well for me. More than that and the image starts to look grainy.
Excellent video, thank you. A quick question: is Quadviews necessary for MSFS as well? If so, are the settings shown for DCS applicable for MSFS for the 3080 case? I really appreciate your help.
@@iontesu2911 quadviews only works with DCS and Pavlov, currently.
Hi, do you override resolution on open xr for 3080 in MSFS, and if so what is your resolution set at please? Thanks
I noticed a change in your OpenXR settings for the 4090 from OG Crystal to Crystal Light. Would you recommend these newer settings for the OG Crystal also? CAS 80%, Middle res 1/2 & Turbo On?
@@johnraahauge4552 for MSFS, yes.
@@tallymouse Thank you. Any chance you will cover MSFS 2024? Right now I have it set to the same as your MSFS 2020 recommendations and getting around 40-43 FPS compared to 55-60 FPS for MSFS 2020. I’m guessing because of lack of QuadViews and better graphics in 2024.
Mainly interested in what my OpenXR settings should be.
@johnraahauge4552 Yes - I am planning to make a 2024 optimization guide
@@tallymouse Love it! You deserve much more followers. You helped me out with so many issues (from USB, Loading Issues, OPEN XR and so on) - keep it up.
Why would you turn eye tracking on in Pimax XR? I thought the Light didn't have eye tracking?
It doesn't but, at least on my setup, helps trick QuadViews into enabling, so you can use it as a FFR system.
@@tallymouse Right-oh, good to know. Thanks for doing the work. I've got a Crystal Light coming (allegedly), and I'm considering upgrading the GPU from 3090, tis should help in that decision.
I just noticed there are no OpenXR settings here - were those left as default everything? No CAS for sharpening needed? or NIS for re-sizing? Turbo mode?
Thx - - Mine is scheduled to arrive today!!
@keithbriscoe99 Quadviews requires default OXRT settings.
What nVida drivers are you using in the video. The latest drivers don't have the same sharpening settings in the video just sharpen and a %.
I’m seeing the same ‘Sharpen’ and %, and he did mention we might see this, but he did neglect to tell us what % to set.. should we set 25% to match the 0.25 setting that Tally mouse said?
I think they moved it under image scaling.
25%.. or 0.25.. may be found under image scaling in new driver
@@tallymouse Luvyawork sir ;)
Good one. Subscribed
Good job m8. Very informative vide but I have one question is this, as you call it native resolution 4312x5102 per eye or combined and how this is related to display resolution 2880x2880?
Thanks.
All modern VR headsets render a much larger image for the headset to accommodate for the distortion profile. That is then displayed on the 2880x2880 per eye.
I have amd 7900 gre. What setting of yours should I model after? It won’t coming until later July. 😊
I would start with the 4060Ti setting, and then slowly turn things up until you're starting to see a noticeable drop in fps. The 7900gre is closest to a 4070 Super, so the 4060Ti would be a great place to start!
Very good stuff🐭
My Problem: MSFS 2020, 7800x3d/4090, using Pimax Open XR and OpenXR toolkit, 90HZ, half refresh rate, no SS, Maximum, Turbo Mode on, 46xx Resolution in OXRtoolKit with DLSS Quality, FFR preset, MSFS with high/ultra, TLOD 130.
Sharpness and colours are amazing but when i move my head a little bit or the plane itself, the Cockpit and the landscape become blurry and some stutters too.
I tried different settings, nothing helped.
Any idea, what i am missing or doing wrong?
Any help appreciated….
Solid locked 45 FPS/90 HZ or 36 FPS/72 HZ, no problems there.
Ensure that you have smart smoothing turned off in Pimax Play.
Tallly Mouse I think you made a mistake with your motherboard specs. I’m sure you have an ASUS Maximus XIII Hero with an 11900KF and not an VIII series. Glad to see that the Crystal Light runs well on a 11900K with a 4090 GPU! Thanks!
You're right.. it's a XIII, I'll update. Thank you!
Thank you for your informative videos! Question: I enthusiastically use Motion Reprojection with my G2 in MSFS - 45 FPS without vs. with Motion Reprojection makes a huge difference for me. What does Pimax offer here? Is there a working solution? I keep reading about Smart Smoothing, but it either doesn't work or creates unsightly artifacts and is actually turned off by everyone. That almost sounds like a dealbreaker to me. How smooth do you perceive the image in MSFS on the Light compared maybe to the G2 with Motion Reprojection?
GREAT vidéo Tally Mouse !! What was the resolution of the headset in msfs for the different cards ? Thanks !
I left the headset at maximum resolution in Pimax Play, and without override in OpenXR toolkit.
@@tallymouse Thanks ! I will give a try with my " classical" crystal.
Hello any help would be appreciated I just got this head set upgraded from the quest 2. The picture looks great it runs sooth as well. What I am noticing is when I move my head the left and right outer limits kind of bring a black boarder with it. There isn’t any type of shutter or any thing. Is this normal I never noticed any thing like that in the quest. It does it in falcon bms and dcs. Thanks
@@danielmandel750 What frequency are you running at? Do you have motion smoothing enabled?
@@tallymouse I will look as soon as I get home from work today. Thanks really appreciate it
@@tallymouse sorry for the ignorance. Are you talking about room light frequency also not seeing motion smooth. I see motion comp but there isn’t any thing in that drop down. Thanks
@@danielmandel750 I meant headset frequency.. try running at 90Hz
@@tallymouse ok that’s what I thought🤦🏼♂️
I'm struggling a bit with msfs. I have 5800x3d and 4070. I set all as you did for 3060ti and am only getting 15fps. Black borders when i turn my head.
Great video! From what I understood, you don´t set any antialiasing option in DCS, just use the settings from the NVidia control panel, am I right? Did you notice any difference (performance or quality) compared to set MSAA in DCS options?
Note that I am also using supersampling through QuadViews Companion in the Foveate region - so it's a bit like running MSAA over the central portion of the image only, so has better performance than running MSAA over the whole image.
@@tallymouse Hi Tally, its a great video! Thank you for the Sharpening tip in Nvidia. I have quest3 and 4080. Only thing that bothers me is shimmering in MSAA. When you play online you can't use DLSS or DLAA due to spotting. Does Quadviews work with Quest3? Many thanks in advance. (In description it say : Works with Pimax Crystal, Pimax 12k, Quest Pro, and Varjo Aero, Varjo XR3.)
For me, 120 hz is causing problems. I often need to reboot the computer for frequency change to work as the change itself causes Windows to totally freeze.
Just a heads-up, did you know that using the image scalinh option increases load on the processor.
Yes.. so does QuadViews. However, the results are just dreamy!
Is the refresh rate not tied to a game Profile? I have to manually go into PP Devices and change it when I switch game from DCS to MSFS? That seems strange..
That's what I do. However, more recently I've been running 120Hz and then locking to half-rate in PimaxXR, as i've found a solid 60Hz in both MSFS and DCS works very well.
I believe the issue is that when you change refresh rate, the HMD needs to reboot, so if it's tied to a game profile, then you game will start while the HMD is rebooting..
@@tallymouse Also, as I am re-watching this, @4:06 you say in the Quad Views to set Foviated Resolution to 130%. But you have it set to 150% ❓
@@MrSnacko Sorry, my mistake - I had it set to 150% in the desktop video.
Thanks from Germany looks Good and fast ❤ Ryzen 5800X3D and RTX 4090❤
Thanks for the video.
In DCS I have some light flickering when set at 72hz... Does anyone have a solution?
Is the flickering all over or at the edges?
@@tallymouse The peripheral flickers, mostly the sky. I've read its an issue with some ppl and 72hz, just hoping someone might know a fix
Отличный обзор!!! Не могу понять, почему у меня в mfs2020 настройка shadow maps больше 2048 не ставится.
Да! Я обнаружил это видео несколько месяцев назад: посмотрите. В конечном итоге вы меняете user.opt, чтобы увеличить детализацию теней.
ruclips.net/video/yfa6yOnywgc/видео.html
Received my Pimax Crystal light, and although i have a set of dodgy lenses (being replaced by new ones from Pimax) everything else is good.
I will say though, that FPS does matter here. At 36fps the whole world in MSFS "nano-judders". Its a slide show on a "micro-level". Same for 40 and 45fps. Its only until i set half -lock of 120hz and get a solid 60fps that i get a smooth acceptable flight. And i fly slow GA aircraft.
Pimax light is great, but QC issues on their lenses needs tightening up. If my replacement lenses show up distorted like my first set, I wont be happy.
Yeah, I'm not sure what is going on with the lenses. As far as I'm aware, they're made in a precision optics factory in Poland - so I can't see why there should be so much variation between them. I see a few people over on the Discord have had to have new lenses sent to them too..
@@tallymouse Hi, thanks for the reply Tally. Do you know whether their replacment lenses fixed their issues? The thing i worry about, is if they turn up and still dont look good.
Only other option right now is the somnium VR1. But the price of the damn thing is insane. 3K all in for just the unit and eye tracking. Cannot justify that much on VR.
How does the Crystal Light compare to the Varjo Aero? I love my Aero.
The Aero's great, but I sold mine about 5 months after purchasing the OG Crystal, as I found the Crystal has a much large VFOV.
The Crystal Light doesn't have eye-tracking, so there's that - unlike the OG Crystal. The colors are somewhat brighter on the Crystal Light, and it has local dimming too.
@@tallymouse Whats the max ppd on the Light?
Im getting great frame rates, however my head movement has a lot of latency. How do I fix that?
Have you tried disabling HAGS? With the Crystal Light the inside-out tracking is done by Pimax Play (PiService.exe) and if that's pushed into the background because of HAGS then it could affect your tracking latency.
Wait, if DCS looks like that on a 4060ti, what would Elite Dangerous look like? I was about to go with Pimax’s recommendation and buy a $1000 card. But if it looks this good with a 4060ti, why do I need it? The 4060ti is on their “Minimum” list
@@emkayusa remember that ED doesn't have quadviews, so you'll lose some performance there - but I'd definitely consider running on a 4060Ti, especially if you can turn down the resolution a little if need-be!
@ Thanks! Do I need a 16gb card, or will an 8gb work?
@emkayusa I'd go with the most VRAM when thinking about VR
How are you capturing the video? OpenXR capture through OBS? Native Pimax software? Something else?
OpenXr Mirror capture through OBS. However, you have to zoom and rescale as the original is a 1:1 box.
@@tallymouse Awesome! So it'll take some tweaking, but will capture similar to my current Reverb G2
Tally, in Quad Views Companion I've found that having the Turbo box Checked seems to cause some stutter in the HMD, have you noticed anything like that?
If you're using QuadViews, ensure that you blank/default your OXRT OSD settings, as QuadViews settings can cause issues with OXRT settings if they are not default.
Thanks, I'm pretty sure I reset everything to default, but I'll double check.
@@tallymouse To confirm... Tally, are you saying that you do NOT use OpenXR Toolkit for these tests and other software settings.. OR.. is it that you use OXRT but return to all default values? Thank you.
@keithbriscoe99 in DCS, i am using default OXRT values, so that they do not conflict with the QuadViews override.
In MSFS, i am using OXRT settings.
I doesn't have the image sharpening option on my nvidia control panel
3D settings > Image Scaling : select on.. sharpening is in there!
9:29 if I go 100% resolution and your settings with my 4070S, i get 10fps…
What about OpenXR settings? Do you leave it at 100%? I‘ve been using 220% with DLSS (G2) still waiting on my Crystal
uhm nvidia control center has 0 impact in VR picture bro
3:20 Why turn on eye tracking?
At least on my system, it's to help get QuadViews enabled.
I have a an RTX 3080. I tried your settings for DCS. It’s perfect. My FPS jumped from 40-50 all the way to 71, I’m really happy. For MSFS not so much. With your MSFS settings I got 10FPS. Here are a few oddities. In your OpenXR settings (v1.3.2 same as mine) after Foveated Rendering setting (which I set as recommended to Custom) I don’t get the entry “Eye tracking” set to ON. I can see in the sim that eye tracking is ON. Just reporting it here just in case you recognize something stupid I did… Second issue is that in the MSFS VR settings for “Shaddow Maps” I can go only up to 2048 with my RTX3080. Your setting is 8192. So my question is are the MSFS settings really for 3080? Thank you for your help.
@@iontesu2911 Google MSFS 4k shadows.. it's a setting in a config file.
@@tallymouse what an incredible setting. At 4096, in my case, the MSFS FPS jumped to 40-50 depending on the flight. Over New York it's 40+. Looks great! Thank you again!!!
i cant get any image on the headset in dcs while using open xr runtime. but on my monitor i can see it takes the imput movements from my headset etc liek if its working but inside the headset i only see that space image from pymaxx, any tips?
I have exactly the same issue and i found out that when quad views is enabled both in pimax play and dcs i i have no video in the HMD. Disabling quad views in either fixes the issue but i dont think quad views is working for me for some reason.
hello mate do you think that dcs can run in vr with 2080super and quest 3 ?
It can, yes. I have a friend running just that setup. He uses the link cable.
the problem with this video is that it is not an example of the classic use of DCS starting from the MP, up to the clouds which are totally absent here
Hm, but nVidia Image Scaling is nVidia's older, general, non-game optimized upsampler (unlike the better DLSS), so why would one use that? If you activate the Overlay Indicator, it would show a green "NIS" ingame if upsampling is active and a blue "NIS", if only the sharpening is active.
I haven't tried it for VR yet, but my understanding of this tech is, that it works only for 2D?
That's why OpenXR Toolkit has a NIS feature built in, to do basically the same.
So, if Sharpening is all you want, wouldn't the ingame (DCS, don't know about MSFS) setting work as well. Or actually work instead of the driver setting?
Not trying to bash your video, but seriously asking, if I'm just mistaken.
Cheers!
It looks like even a 4090 is a little underpowered for what the Crystal Light can really do, which is incredible.
Hopefully the 50-series brings a whole new level of performance
@juliantaffa4089 imagine what the Crystal Super is going to be like..😂 though eye-tracking and DFR will help a lot there!
Can you post settings for games like iracing please?
Is this crystal light compatible with gaming laptops like Predator Helios 300
That's a 3060?
so this the ultimate VR ?
Ha ha! No 4k.. what's going on? Great vid so far..
Working on it!
Can you help me with iracing settings please?
thank you!😀
Hi! Do you run msfs via steam vr with pimax crystal light?
@@jj__king__ I run using PimaxXR, I rarely use SteamVR for anything nowadays.
@@tallymouse thank you verry much for that! . I will try that:)
You mentioned to activiate Eyetracking but the Crystal Light doenst have Eyetracking right?
@@Deinecraft correct, but with eye tracking enabled, you can use QuadViews as a better form of FFR
@@tallymouse how do I enable eyetrack when it doesn't have It ?
@Deinecraft If you turn on QuadViews and enable eye tracking in PimaxXR, then IT doesn't know that you don't have eye-tracking.. so you can then use QuadViews in DCS as a FFR method, which works well!
@@tallymouse Thank you for your reply and this info !
@Deinecraft You are very welcome!
Enable eye tracking on Crystal Light?
It does not have eye-tracking, hence why it's inexpensive, however, you can trick QuadViews into working and use it as a very controllable/sophisticated FFR system.
Ah I gotcha! I thought I heard you say to turn on eye tracking but couldn't figure out why 🤣 thank you!
The crystal light does not have eye-tracking, or am I missing something?
It does not have eye-tracking, hence why it's inexpensive, however, you cam trick QuadViews into working and use it as a very controllable/sophisticated FFR system.
@@tallymouse DCS 60fps with your settings, RTX 4080. 45 fps with msfs. Thanks for the tips!
Was the CPU 11900k kept constant throughout these tests?
@Adrian3712 Yes sir. Exactly the same rig used, just swapped out the GPU.
@@tallymouse I'm currently deciding between the Quest 3 or the Crystal Light, I ordered a Quest 3 but might return it after seeing your video. I mainly play DCS in VR. Do you recommend I upgrade to the Crystal Light 3? Is it worth the extra money over a Quest 3? My CPU is 11900K i9 and my GPU is a 3080Ti
@Adrian3712 i have the Quest3 as well. I have a Wifi6E AP located 1m from the back of my head, and I use the Q3 through Virtual Desktop to get around the compression and through put limitations of the link cable. It's very good, however, even with everything cranked to the max, I can only just read the MFDs without having to lean forward. The Q3's lenses are good, but the lack of DP port combined with panels that have only half the pixels become really obvious when you have the Crystal Light dialed in and working. Especially in DCS.
If you were a MSFS fellow, then the Q3 had other advantages like the MR PassThrough, which is kinda cool...
@@tallymouse Thanks for your reply! I got the link cable, I was worried about compression and limited capabilities of the link cable. I’m still scratching my head on what to do. Keep my Oculus Quest 3(haven’t opened it yet just in case there is a restocking fee) or return the quest 3 and get the Crystal Light. I like that the Crystal Light is better suited for DCS and based on what you’re saying I’m leaning towards that! However, I do know that my PC would handle the Quest 3 easily compared to the Crystal Light. Given my specs mentioned above(11900k CPU and 3080Ti GPU) what would you recommend for me?
@@Adrian3712 I still run a 11900KF with a water block.. overclocked.. and it just works! I guess I won the silicon lottery. I purchased it sight unseen on the interwebs from a Pawn shop in Queens, NY, for silly money.. and it worked.. what a win!
If you can return the Q3, and lose minimal money, I'd go with the Crystal Light.. even if you have to turn settings/resolution down initially, the PCL gives you the opportunity to scale with GPU i.e. you could upgrade your system GPU in the future and the PCL will just keep unlocking more capability, whereas the G3 is capped because of the way it connects to your PC and it's lower resolution panels...
If I'd already owned a Q3 and couldn't return it, it'd be a hard-sell to upgrade to the PCL.. it IS better.. but at what cost? However, you're in that enviable position where you can effectively still choose... plus, like me, you're primarily a DCS guy.. in that case, and based on my personal experience, I'd go with the Crystal Light.
will it run better then hp reverb g2, I have 4090
It should with the right settings. Plus, you'll have significantly more clarity im the sweet-spot and offaxis too!
@@tallymouse thank you
HAGS on or off?
@cuttheloop Depends: if you have no stuttering etc with HAGS on, then leave it on, as that also let's you use DLSS properly. If you encounter stuttering or shudders in tracking, try turning HAGS off.
After playing DCS on the Crystal Light for a week and deciding to tweak it for stuttering, I followed this guide. Now its unplayable. It doesnt display on the Pimax, only the boxed version on the regular monitor. I originally had Pimax Play and Pimax XR and it ran fine but now I DL the Quadviews and Quadviews companion and OpenXR toolkit and it destroyed my game. Beware.
I had to unload the Quadviews and it worked, but really stuttery.
@@vadenkwin You have to install OpenXR Toolkit, PimaxXR, then QuadViews in that order, and set PimaxXR to be the OpenXR runtime, otherwise the order of elements in the OpenXR Layers will be incorrect.
You don't enable "Prefer framerate over latency" ?? I thought it was the equivalent of Turbo Mode in OpenXRToolkit and that it should always be enabled to the best framerate!?
Edit: I see that you have it enabled in the toolkit itself. I think it's the same thing, but do not enable both.
DX11 or DX12 with MSFS?
DX12 (beta)
Which Nvidia driver are you currently using and will these 4090 settings also perform well with the Crystal for MSFS?
A stripped down version (nVfix) version of whatever the latest is.
Will rtx 3060 GPU be OK, regards
Yes - you'll be on the lower end of things, but it'll work. Remember that you can use OpenXR Toolkit to lower the effective resolution slightly and not notice much difference in quality. You can also do this in SteamVR, or in Pimax Play: setting "balanced" instead of "Maximum" resolution.
All great, but these settings goes out of the window if one tries to play DCS for real, on some MP server or real mission with multiple units, not a free flight on Caucasus map that doesn't push CPU/GPU anywhere near to what we could have on more modern maps like Syria, or so. Thanks for the video.
...but that could be said for any VR headset. I run my own server as I have discovered that many MP servers are run on low spec machines with asymmetric low bandwidth connections.
@@tallymouse Yes, we could say that about any headset, I agree. It's just : when I see videos like this, it feels like it's not showing all the truth, no matter what headset. Many people could buy a headset based on what they see in the video and then be disappointed when trying to do more than just a free flight on Caucasus map. That's why I believe, videos like this one should also include a sample from busy and demanding DCS environment.
Thank you for hearing me out, have a great time flying.
@@Marcin79W I'll run my next video from a busy carrier deck, in the rain, on an MP server then..
@@tallymouse Thank you for all the work you put there for us.
when you're so early the only quality option is 360p
Oh the drama! .. i'm thinking 480! 😂
'tis 4k now, sir!
fps changing from 50 to 72 in msfs and says running "smooth"?!! NOT! In my experience if the the framerate is not locked to no more than 1fps variation there WILL be microstutter!
If you're setup right then you do not get microstutter. You have to avoid use of smart smoothing otherwise things can go wrong quickly.
Shame you missed the 4080.
I own the 4060Ti and 4090, and borrowed the 3060Ti and 3080.. i didn't know anybody willing to lend me their 4080, unfortunately!