AX8 vs Axe-Fx III Comparison - Amp Tones
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The economy of the AX8 wins this battle. I have FXII and AX8 and love them both. I tend to agree that the limit of sound emulation is now reaching a peak. My advice for Live portable rig use the AX8. Thanks for the video very informative.
So what i've learned from this is the AX8 turns your world B&W, ok got it!
I know right..... Sigh. He's so pumped about it. And he has a real plexi on his left. The mind boggles.
The difference is so small it makes me wonder if amp modeling has reached its limits
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JDAnalog lol do you even own one or play out? If you play out, guess what the audience is hearing...the local PA and not amp in the room. If you don’t play out, then try one of these in person with a tube amp present. Yes there is slightly different but very close and honestly most people I’ve blind folded have picked the modeler as opposed to the real deal. This was a modeled fender deluxe reverb compared the real deal! Just saying...amp in the room feel is just beating a dead horse these days.
@@ToneOFTheGods im glad that you can compare the audio to you playing beside your amp at hearing that lol.
Many people just dont understand what modeling is meant to accomplish. Perhaps you can solve that riddle someday.
@@bigeclipse718 Exactly . When playing live the sound guy will mic your Cab with some trashed Shure 57 or 58 and run it through the house PA system, AS WELL AS their specific EQ which changes your tone entirely. I have used traditional rigs and an AxeFX2, an the Axe Fx was easily my favourite rig/tone to play live. We tone matched my Album guitar tone so when I played I would ask the engineer for a flat EQ line straight to the back of my rig with cab sims ON (Audience gets my studio album tone). Then I'd run a separate line with cab sims OFF to my Orange PPC2x12 - with no mic and that would be my stage rig for my personal ears. that way as the night goes on and things get louder the sound out front never changed. It was frign epic.
@@ToneOFTheGods I strongly disagree. With the latest firmware release, FW 11.00, Fractal has pinned down the elusive impedance modeling that was more the missing link, than any "cabinet in-the-room" response characteristics. Fractal really put together a phenomenal unit. I haven't played my Mark V since getting the FXIII. I've had the Headrush, Atomic Amplifier, HX Stomp (childs toy) and a few guitar software VST's along with Natihve Instruments Guitar Rig. I have a Mesa Mk V with ext. Cab, Fender SuperSonic 22 with a Celestion Gold, Marshall DSL40c w.Cream back. I have 2 killer pedalboards with Strymon, Empress, Chase Bliss, Free The Tone, Drybell, Origin Effects, Source Audio and more I can't remember. All respected if not outright desirable gear. The Fractal hangs with any of it and surpasses it in many ways. This isn't Line6 POD crap. This is pro level, studio quality gear. .
This is exactly why I’m not selling my Ax8. Best small gig rig ever.
Joe, I gig..as well. A year later, is it STILL the Shizzle? I hump a bunch of lil boxes on a pedalboard and its messy, I think its falling apart etc...I wonder if the ax 8 can do it all (with spillover) and simplify things. I do Ac30 sounds alot. And Jtm Marsha;;s sounds alot. Im not a drop tune-Guy.
@@georgebarry8640 Hi George, I just used my Ax8 for an acoustic this past Friday and it sounds amazing. I still use it for small room gigs and rehearsal for my regular band. It is still an integral part of my rehearsal and gig rigs. It still sounds amazing. Believe me, even the guitar geeks like me in the audience can’t tell the difference. I’m using it until it dies. 😎👍🏻
Not entirely Apples to Apples because the AX8 is going through two more analog to digital conversions running through the AFXlll. It would be more fair of a comparison to run and A/B both box in front of both units and record the same passage simultaneously. Thank you for your massive contribution to this community 🤙 Your Awesome!
I agree. Despite the cable routing, the demos favour the AX8 to my ears. I was listening blind and didn't know the B+W clips were of those of the AX8. I play clean predominantly. The AX8 sounds more pleasing like a real valve/tube amp to my ears. The AXE FX 3 is like a hyped up version of the actual amps. The Vibrolux and Tweed Deluxe that I played sound like the AX8, not the AXE FX 3. Newer and costlier is not always better. Interesting comparison.
Great VId and playing. Brilliant production ideas for comparison. Definitely appreciate all your hard work and your channel !
The Fractal stuff may not replace your amps and suggest no one go all in selling your amps. It is an invaluable tool that can save your butt in a pinch, or save your back when playing often and on short notice. It is a Godsend for any player and should be a tool in the toolbox!
As a guitar player I know exactly how the quest for tone and feel feels like, BUT as producer I think that in most of the cases the difference is so subtle that in a mix, with post eq, compression, reverbs and all the other instruments, plus the mastering nobody could tell what is what. The most important thing is to have a good starting sound and both of these provides it for sure. That being said, the different price tag and usability on a stage become crucial in my choice and that's why I'd go with an AX8.
One thing i really like about modellers is that it forces you to move away from "guitar brain" to "producer brain" and start seeing the guitar as one element of a piece of music as opposed to the be all and end all. The routing options and channels feature of the III makes it a beast for studio use over the AX8, but the raw sounds are definitely close enough at the moment.
Great amp choice!!! Thanks for doing this Leon, it shows the AX8 can hold it's own for basic stage work
I get so caught up in his superb playing that i get to the end and realize i forgot the purpose he was doing the demo of the gear in the first place, so i have to go back and watch it again, lol. What a sensational player!
Too kind mate, thankyou!
Superb ? Really ???
Its a very, but very small difference in sound, i don't know how they must feel thou, THANKS A LOT FOR THIS DEMO LEON!
I can barely hear a difference, if not can't. Both sound pretty identical to me. Both sound amazing!
On the cleans, the AX8 has slightly less sparkle. Same could be said for the rest of the models. Not a huge difference, but noticeable.
@@rrguitar1 just boost the highs
Thanks, Leon. I didn't see your comments about the AX8 being in B+W. I preferred the AX8 in all the samples. It was rounder, chewier, meatier, more "liquid sounding" in the midrange, to use a much derided audiophile term, and tube/valve-like. The AXE FX 3 was more extended and controlled in the highs and lows with better definition by a hair, and a midge faster note attack but harsher sounding overall like a solid-state amp. I much preferred the AX8. Perhaps the AX FX 2 now on sale isn't such a bad deal after all...PS Listen to the Tweed Deluxe comparison and tell me that the AX8 doesn't sound more liquid and sweeter with more even order harmonics? Listen to the Friedman; the AX8 has chewier texture like a real tube/valve Friedman.
I own the AX8 thanks for doing this comparison.
Still in Love with it?
The difference is in the price
4 times more. 2500 isn't bad for (retail) for it really. Kemper is still in that range. I need to do more research but from what I can tell, it does 1000 times more than Ax 2. More than Kemper. 4 separate channels so you can have 2 guitars, a bass, and whatever else on the 4th channel and use it as an interface.
I would say, they hit it out of the park on this!
yea and quite honestly I don't think the III beats the AX8 to where the price difference is justified.
@@frankpaws A question in regards to the AX8 model my friend; the sound quality for me is pretty good but how many instruments can go in at once? Can it deal with stereo processing for each instrument or they're just four mono lines?
If the Axe FxIII is the only one with the ability of dealing with 4 mono lines with different processing routes each, you know why they're charging that much...
@@SpartanGR77based on my experience, the FX III is at least 5 times as powerful as the 8 and has much more powerful DSP for better amp modeling, hi-res cab's and effects that beat not just the 8, but easily outperform the most strident effects pedalboard that you could put together for under $4 -5k. The FX III is world class. There is none better.
Splitting hairs
I think they both definitely sound good, any differences are very minor.
I just listened again to your explanation of how you connected all of this. If you plugging into FXIII and then out to AX8 you already have added a D/A process into the AX8 sound that is not normally there.
Just commented on the same above. actually he messed it up more than that.
Ron Gillespie thank you. Can’t stand the entitled attitude of people in this day and age.
@@zwip778 You Cant stand constructive critisism
Baloney
In headphones I can clearly hear a difference. Axe FX III sounds 5% (approx) clearer and more hardware-like. Imroved AD/DA conversion as well as modeling and other stuff really shines here. It reminded me Ola's comparison video of new Mercurial SS-11X VS real AMT SS-11B preamp. The difference was like a plastic shiny pedal VS made of steel real pedal, which sounded little more trebly, dense and hi-fi'sh. Same with Ax III vs Ax8. Muchas gracias for this comparison sir! Watching all your cool videos gave me exact same question, glad you made it!
Thanks man. The Axe-III is the first unit i've ever played that truly nails amp tones; it sounds and feels just like it. Now if they can just nail the smell of tubes ;)
@@LeonTodd I think we can fix it! *buys set of tubes
The best comparison I could differentiate between was the Vibrolux. The Axe-FX III has a more fuller sound. But for the price I'm sure some minor tweaking could just be made.
Listening on a good set of cans - I prefer the b&w - more open and pleasant highs - interesting that I liked the AX8 better and didn’t pay attention to what you said at beginning of vid so it was a blind listen for me... guess I’ll be putting off the upgrade for now- thanks for the comparison
That's really interesting! You gotta go with what your ears tell you :)
I did the exact same thing, and I agree
Me as well!
I was listening blind and arrived at the same conclusion. I thought that the B+W clips had to be the improved AXE FX 3 and that Leon was throwing a curve ball. I much preferred the AX8.The difference was not subtle to these ears.
DragonBiscuit love a good set of cans!
Awesome comparison dude. While I’m most definitely getting a 3, it’s nice to know how similar the units are in sound. I always cherish my AX8 more after watching your vids bro.
As a side note I still HATE the fizz of the C++ even on the 3 haha
It's an acquired taste isn't it!
I think the Fx-III sounds better, especially with the cleaner stuff, but I probably couldn't tell them apart in a blind test honestly.
Had been pondering an Axe 3 having upgraded from an old Ultra a couple years ago to an AX-8.. you made up my mind. Sticking with the AX8. I can hardly hear a difference PLUS I have presets from fremen presets that smoke a lot of the factory patches anyway. Thanks for the comparison. Save some $$ and get an AX8 and get your footswitches too. :-)
Great video as always. I hope Fractal gave you the III for free or at least a deal. I bet you've sold hundreds of units for them with all of your videos and hard work. Thanks again
Best Fractal tutorials on RUclips here! He definitely deserves an endorsement.
No way he's not getting free merch from them. Money well spent by Fractal too.
The B&W clips are a bit more ballsy and straight forward whereas the color clips are a bit more "colorful" in that there seems to be a "multi"-dynamic, like a bit of chorus/reverb/delay, just a little bit of it, so it is, I wanna say "more full-ish" but not as ballsy. B&W=Dry & Ballsy, Color=Wet(Moist, or even slightly Damp)& Almost as Ballsy. I wish I had more descriptive words for it, but even after pondering for a few minutes, this is what my offering is. Thanx for the comparison, keep up the great work!! Peace!
Axe III has slightly more dynamics, esp in the clean amps.... hi gain sound almost the same ... with lows more pronounced (in a good way) in the Axe FX III.
Had to listen twice carefully On high gain tones : slight fizz in Axe 8, AXE FX III absolutely digital fizz free...
So you also feel like the 3 feels more like a real amp?
@@curtsassak6629 Absolutely.....
I can't notice difference. In a record you can't say if it is a fx III or an axe 8
In my humble opinion, the best rig would be: decent preamp + decent stereo power amp + fractal fx8 + 2 1×2 cabs.
A rig like that would be super flexible, and would not become obsolete any time soon.
It is shocking to me that so many people state they barely hear a difference!? I don’t own either products... I was just curious so I looked this up and the Axe FX iii sounds remarkably more authentic to my ears.
Just NO difference in between for me. Love my AX8 even more 😂😂😂
Leon, thank you, mate! You're the Man!🎸🤘
Я тоже такого мнения, была какая-то минутная мысля про III .... но потом все развеялось
@@raingrow845 да, Фрактал опять на высоте 🤘
I honestly couldn’t tell the difference 😱
The iii is for a studio production... The ax8 for playing live and for 95% of guitar players.
I hear more high end detail on the AXE III, more realistic clear low end too... like a blanket has been pulled off the speaker cab or something. I wonder if this is all tweak able. Both sound relatively amazing. Great Demo Mr. Todd.
Most of the difference comes from processing capabilities... Having two amps at once is something the Ax8 can't do and actually does makes a huge difference in sound. Allready have the ax8 and the FX3 is on the wayy
Great video man! Thank you! Just got the AX8 and still learning but digging the tones! 🙌🏻
Awesome, stoked for you!
The iii definitely seems to have a bit of a top end boost. Curious if it's difference in the modeling or if it's losing some Fidelity in the routing. Would definitely prefer them both direct to interface and use a plug-in cab it or something. Cool demo though.
Yes, I would like to hear a direct routing into the DAW using the same IRs. It would be a fairer comparison. As it is, I much prefer the AX8.
The AX8 totally holds its own IMO. The 3 however is worth the interface and extra juicy tones.
The III's FW development has added so much new stuff since I did this video too
@@LeonTodd have you done a similar vid but with ax8 vs fm3?
When I see people discusing under this video about "amp in room feel" from digital modelers like Fractal or Kemper (both great units btw), I would say, they all are mixing apples with pineapples. Digital modeler is mostly used - live - with FRFR monitor, so it is monitored sound. Like your amp would be in room behind mic-ed up to your FRFR monitor on stage and you could here only monitored sound. Feel will be very similar then. Digitals are acting like full amp + cab + mic to monitor and trust me. In this case it is so close to final result, that it is stunning. Thats why it is good in studio - because you can do so many mistakes with mic-ing and you are free of this risk in this case and you are getting very good result where you can't even feel much difference in final mix etc. On the second hand, if you would use Fractal without IR simulation into power amp and real guitar CAB you would get very similar result to real guitar "tone in the room" feel. I have been playing with other guitarists with full valve amps with toe to toe result with no issue with my AX8 + power amp + 2x12 V30 cab.
exactly!
love my Ax8, thanks Leon for your reviews, are awesome! keep rocking dude...
From an Amp only perspective I'm glad I stayed with the AX8. The difference ( if any) is not worth the price. However the III, will kick butt in amp combos and fx. great videos
The AX8 is hard to beat at that price point IMO
I do hear some minor differences. I guess the big question would be: when playing, can you feel the difference? And if yes does one feel better than the other?
The AX8 feels great but the III just feels amazingly solid.
USA C++ sounded like it had more fizz in the Ax8, the Axe III was smoother even though it was just as bright. Its hard to put into words what I hear with the other models. I guess i'm just used to expecting what to hear from Mesas.
Waiting for the AX8 II release. Fractal just drope the AX8 price on the web site, this means something is about to come out soon.
I hope the AX8 II does not sound like tbe AXE FX 3. I have re-listened to the clips. Even knowing ex post facto that the B+W clips were those of the AX8 I favour it still. Your mileage may vary.
Awesome job like Always Leon. It sounds pretty similar !!!
Dear Leon, can you send me the v30 w/3 mikes IR, I love it's sound
I might be deaf or something but I really liked the ax8 more.
Me too.
Leon, what do u say about this? Is the ax8 still very relevant event in comparison to the mighty axe3?
I'm deaf too and Ax8 sounds great. I guess it's made for deaf people
@@Mist_R im deaf as well and i got lost after he stopped talking. Whys he making funny faces while tickling that piece of wood
If you're on a speaker system that's naturally brighter all the AX8 tones seem a bit darker... makes sense if someone would prefer it. In studio with my monitors, the AXE III just sounds clearer and better.
AXE III looks fancier, costs more. I am still over here running Axe Edit via midi into my Ultra. :) Still happy with it too.
The ultra is a beast!
Loved this comparison!
Excellent comparison! Even thru RUclips I can hear an audible difference. Well done. I assume that the Axe 3 sounds somewhat better due to resolution quality being higher. I must admit that the older units still sound good. I’ve got a Kemper but I am still getting one of these Fractal units too. Probably the Ax 8 for the convenience and price point. I may wait for the newest version to come out though.
Whenever anyone asks me "kemper or Fractal" I just say "both".
slight difference between each other... some amps had less body in ax8, but almost unnoticeable
Looking to buy the 3 in the next week. The AX8 sound is almost identical to the 3 BUT the processing power of the 3 is far superior and you can run so many more blocks without hitting the cpu limit. I would probably be just fine with the AX8 but I have said that before and ended up selling gear for upgrades. On the list for the FM3 but I feel I'll want more power (whether or not I utilize it 90% of the time) so I'm just going to buy the best and not worry about my GAS for hopefully another 5-6 years lol.
HoosierDaddy here sir. Cool demo. They both sound killer to me...!!! ❤️✌️👍❤️
I missed the text at the start that specifies which is which so I went through the vid not knowing. I prefered black & white every time, which sounded like it has tighter lows with more resonance and a little bit more in the high-mid to high range. After learning black & white was the Ax8, I watched again too see if I'd change my mind with some newer-must-be-better bias but the Ax8 won out again. Hmmmm, surprising. I listened on Sony MDR-7506 studio headphones, fwiw.
Some of them have a very small or non existent difference, but on the Plexi the first one is better for sure.
Axe fxlll sounds kinda cleaner to me
I think they upgraded the processors and memories and things like that... more like a faster computer.
I couldn’t tell the difference in sound even though the headphones, maybe you can if you are listening live, in front of the real cab...
But in the future, when they update the software, I believe that’s when we will see the real differences…
Both nice equipment to have on a rig.
Great video, cheers from Brazil.
The modelling algorithms are different in the III, it's a total ground up redesign.
How many A:D-D:A conversions are happening when you're connected like that.?
I think nr 1 is Fractal and nr2 is.. oh wait....
Awsome test btw, hear pretty much no difference at all.
Great video! The ax8 sounds a little compressed compared to the III
I think the colored one is the Axe FX III and the B/W one is the AX8. So based upon that assumption of mine here's my verdict. The difference is indeed noticeable but most listeners and players won't care much about it. The difference is in the degree of accuracy in modelling.
The AX8 (the B/W one) sounds extremely close to an amp but its bottom end and harmonics aren't exactly same as an amp and there's a slight background fizz. In a blind test most listeners won't be able to differentiate it from a real amp but a seasoned listener will be able to differentiate it because the difference in harmonics and that background fizz are a clear giveaway.
Axe FX III (the colored one) on other hand sounds exactly like an amp, it has that huge tube amp bottom end, the harmonics sound like an amp, the digital fizz isn't there. I bet in a blind test even the most seasoned listener won't be able to differentiate between Axe FX III and real amps.
The Axe FX III is definitely a significant improvement, but it's certainly not worth extra $1400.
For majority of players AX8 is more than enough. It sounds way better than the overhyped digital fizzbox called Helix, and the huge and heavy Kemper, and is way more versatile than Headrush.
The Axe FX III is more suited for absolute audiophiles who want exact replication of amp sounds and harmonics with utmost accuracy and are ready to pay the extra bucks for that. I don't think most players would need Axe FX III for the time being.
la diferencia mas notoria es en los limpios, y otro punto es el renovar el equipo extender la vida, es cuestion de tener lo mas nuevo con mas soporte, en general las dos son buenas
GREAT VIDEO ! - smallest difference between units, with a full band or backing trax, very few could tell the difference... Thank You !
Whatever the black and white was was less clacky and more lush and I loved that
Maybe there was a bit more preamp gain?
I've been playing guitar for about 25 years now (with a break of 5 years until 9 months ago) and I started researching, what the current, technical possibilities are and how they sound compared to the real amp feeling, I'm used to for decades. As I do not have all the space in the world for several amps, cabinets and stuff, I was really interested in something small, that can do all the sounds with the best result possible. I really was.
What should I say, I kept my Johnson Millenium 150, bought a Marshall 2555HD3 and now have a pedalboard with my favorite pedals on it. Why?
1. I do think that all these modelers and multi-effect boards do sound sterile and unnatural on Cleans and Crunchs to my ears. The only thing that works most is distortion.
2. I got lost in all the possibilities and wasted more time searching instead of actually playing. On my pedal board are those things, I think fit the most to MY sound.
If not, it'll be replaced someday. But I do never have things on it, I won't actually use.
3. I need to feel my music and I only can do it with the sound of an real amp to a cabinet touching my ears. I know that this is the most subjective part of all, but for me it works best this way.
I know that my recordings in the end might not sound as professional as todays most records, but at least I'm working on the settings until (I think) it sounds best + through those little flaws it becomes my music and not a copy of somethings else.
Cheers
The Johnson Millenium is the OG! Running through a guitar speaker cabinet is 100% the best way to immediately feel at home on any rig. I run direct all the time live and at home but still have a Matrix power amp for those time I want to make my pants flap through a real cab with the Axe.
@@LeonTodd Yeah, totally got you. Anything is fine as long as it makes you rock your pants. 🤘😁
@@dennycrane2817 exactly. Must feel awesome to be back after a break!
Axe-Fx III does sound better to me in these clips for the most part, but it's possible that with some tweaking AX8 can sound identical, they just sound slightly different on the same settings. In a mix it would be really difficult, if not impossible to tell the difference, let alone in a live setting where everything is super loud and details go out of the window.
Given that the AX8 is much cheaper and it's also all-in-one solution for recording AND gigging, in a compact and lighter form factor and also doubles as a pedal unit, it seems like a no-brainer to me. Maybe it would be nice if it had an expression pedal built in, but other than that it's all you would ever need tbh, well at least if you are lazy like me and you want a unit that does everything and is easy to carry around.
Leon A bit torn I have an AX8 have seriously been thinking of purchasing a Fx3
For playing live kinda funny I’ve been following you since I purchased my AX8
You have taught me more then anyone! Killer tutorials Brother I love the way you
Demonstrate amps with out Effects. I was checking out the FM3 and everything
I’ve seen and heard is so wet it’s hard to tell what the amps sound like? Are you using
The AX3 live? It seems like the clean tones are better? From what I’m hearing on other
Videos? Let me know your take on this for using it in a live format? Or just hang with my AX8.
I can't really tell the difference. Do they feel different?
I notice it; the III basically feels more solid and makes me want to dig in more like a real amp would.
Leon Todd totally agree
Listening with the PC speaker I can´t heard the diference. It will be interesting use a frequency analyzer to really see the diferences!
I can't hear the difference either through my headphones. I don'r really feel a need or want to upgrade my AxeFx XL+
@@LeonTodd does fractal send you free gear to review?
The cleans on both units sounded very digital to me, on the dirt tones the Axe 3 has a slight, very slight edge, is it worth the $ to upgrade??, not for me, but to others that want the latest and greatest then maybe...:)..I honestly think modeling has come as far as it can with current tech , the next step up has to be new tech, soooooooon...:)..Great review though, and some tasty riffs.
Pretty sure that the main difference is in the circuit around the AD DA converters.
love the vids your a great guy keep up the great tutorials
Axe III is definitely brighter. But you could turn down some of the presence I suppose and then they’d sound identical
I am looking at the AXE3 might buy one. I have to admit, the samples here are almost indistinguishable.
I actually thought the IIc++ and Recto red sounded better on the AX8 in this clip. Really couldn’t tell any difference with the others. Were you using one of the built in cabs on the Axe or a custom IR, and if so which one? Thanks
For basic anp patches, no discernable difference BUT when you get into advanced otherworldly fx laden metal, drones etc . Ax8 runs out of blocks check the axe iii drone he plays. If that can be done on ax8 or even Axe II I am all in.
@Leon Todd can the AX8 or Axe Fx II do the fremen drone or so e of your amazing anthem rock presets ?
Nice tones, I'm a sucker for the tweed and plexi tones myself!
Appreciate your efforts and insight! Be Well Brother!
The sounds that birthed rock music.
Only diff is price id say i have the ax8 and would never need a mk3 as it suits my needs
Excellent tones like always....
AXE FX III has more lows, a little of midrange clarity and overall open sound. It is like 5% better sounding than AX8/ AXE II...both sounds amaizing. What is your opinion about Helix vs/ AX8..?
The Helix interface is incredible but the AX8 amp tones are incredible.
Very Very slight tightness on the mids on the Axe FX3 to my ears...but i dont think there is a reason to upgrade from the AX8 to the FX 3
AX-FX III has more headroom and openness to it, the low frequency is pronounced...having said that AX8 is 95% as good in terms of the sound. I really hope Fractal will come up with a new floor based multu-fx..with a built in volume/wah pedal, two channel per patch....and a color display.. more powerful DSP
Only appreciable differences I heard was in the Tweed and Vibrolux. Tweeds top end was sweeter on the III, Vibrolux was meatier on the III
The Fender's really improved IMO, I'm loving them on the III.
I hear the opposite. The AXE FX 3 has better note definition and is more extended in the treble and bass. The AX8 is sweeter, chimier and sweeter overall...much like an actual Vibrolux and Tweed. The AXE FX 3 is like a hyped up processed post-production version of the real amps with the treble and bass goosed up. That is what one hears with an amp with high driver damping...in other words, solid-state. I have no dog in this fight. In this demo, the AX8, to my ears, sound much better. The AXE FX 3 sounds harsh to me.
Leonne did you use one video demonstrate the units? I notice that the colored and the black and white are the same?
Anyone had problems with AX8 and noise at 5Khz on higain if bright is high?...
Great video man! Could you do a comparison between AX8 and the Boss GT1000 please?
Waiting on a demo gt1000 to arrive at my local music store :D
I wonder how much is just placebo effect
I can hear a major difference the Axe III has way more spine... well I am also listening through my Westone UM Pro 50 signature series in-ear monitors too!
awesome vid Leon.. cheers....just what I thought
US C++ has a slight more bottom chug. But that could just be slight setting differences
Wooww...your video has make me more confident to purchase an Ax8 according to my budget allowed, haha. To my ears just a subtle difference, maybe in resolution side.
Btw Leon, you own so many gears and also have test so many, from your perspective or expirience, if you can dial preamp&power amp section in Ax8 an Amp of your favourite and you compare it to the real Amp with TwoNotes loadbox&ir loader, both of them lastly chained to same cab IR, which will give more authentic sound & feel?
The difference in sound is really small. I guess the biggest difference is CPU and features.
Awesome work!
Leon where is you Master Volume & Level set for the Friedman 2018? Sounds great!
Really good job! and great comparison.
Thanks so much
My understand (and my ear) says there is no difference until you load up the chain with different effects. I guess ax8 used in what i am going for
Hi Leon just a quick question that may bring a long answer... Ax8 or Helix?
I would get the AX8 if Fractal would release it with a COLOR screen like the FXIII. I like the smaller pedalboard size.
i'd be all over that too
They just did
FX8 is definitely not slacking, lol.
Both are great. Biggest diff I heard was with the Vibrolux. Rack unit was fuller. Clean tones are big for me. Still sounded nice through the FX8, though.
Thanks, again
Bingo, the vibrolux was the only one where a difference was really clear to me, it was fuller as you said. Since I play mostly Fender amps, seems like I will have to buy the FM3
gitapik it’s not fx8, it’s a ax8
Axe 3 has bit more depth. More atmosphere about it. Think of Axe 3 as 3D and Ax8 as 2D. Not that you couldn’t adjust to sound less ‘brittle’ for want of a better term. On sound, Axe 3. On value, Ax8
Cute matchey-matchey outfit!!
There is a small difference, but I don't know which one sounds better
I honestly don’t hear a difference, but having thought he same about the Helix/AX8, obviously there is is difference in feel (to me the AX8 felt more real to play than the Helix). Leon, how does the AXEIII feel compared to the AX8?
Subtle but it's there. The III feels a tad more solid.
All I know is after listening to this I’m 10000000% ready to drop 3 grand on an axefx 3