Rewatching this made me realise that bhvr really said "Y'all thought old Legion was our worst? He he heh... allow us to introduce the Skull Merchant..."
i was gonna say, that was the huge thing i remember people being pissed about wrt legion (outside of the moonwalk exploit). i don't actually remember how long that lasted but it fucking sucked while it did.
Yeah that was a mending bug when you combined two of their addons that increased mending time, it was so bad and widely known that the devs openly stated they’d ban anyone who was caught abusing the exploit
As a legion main myself, I just love legion because I just love zooming around the map injuring survivors, listening to some of the best chase music in dbd, and there’s the hunk skin. We love hunk.
@SireK0zy XD yeah like why man everyone liked him and he was really healthy for game, just like the twins no bugs and just like the knight and skull merchant very engaging and fun counter play 😀
Wasn't there an exploit that if you had special addons at some point you could increase time to mend to forever with each hit making that timer longer or sth like this ?
Fun fact, the change to make it so that Deep wounds wouldn't go down if you run instead of being tied to terror radius is because when Oni came out, the perk nemesis made it so that legion could make the survivor oblivious while still chasing efectively making a old legion 2.0, was a wild PTB
19:27 for the final patch, they did nerfed his vaulting speed AGAIN by removing all the bonuse speed that you gain with perks like fire up, bamboozle or superior anatomy while vaulting during the frenzy. Behaviour doing its behaviourism
Man release legion was an instant DC as people would just run an anti heal build, and it would just be mending simulator. Was so unbelievably unfun i remember being happy to get a nurse after like 4 games of legion in a row.
I remember accidentally doing the bleed out exploit so many times because if you got stunned and then kicked it at 110% movement speed you couldn't catch up in time
I can understand why survivors dont like playing against a legion. That killer can really drag out a game lol. You really just have to Gen rush legion and stay seperate to counter him imo otherwise hell keep injuring/wounding multiple survivors and distract them. His add ons are quite powerful too but i find him so much fun to play i cant help myself but to main him 😭😄
Idk if this particular version is available for download but it would be great if u made a video on the dbd version that allowed u to have duplicate perks. And killer powers, perks on survivors and vice versa
Good video. Loved Legion when I picked him up after his first rework (the 115% version before the basoc attacks were changed). His 2nd rework was good, since I came back from the game after a lengthy break. I'd want them to at least change the aspect of missing a basic attack taking down your whole power (pallet stuns are fine), and let you at least be able to see scratch marks in frenzy, but current legion is in a good spot imo Julie mains, rise up!
also thana got nerfed in 6.1.0, thats another direct nerf for legion since almost %99 of the legion players used it. nowadays its not worth it anymore.
yeah they simply forgot legion exists except they only make cosmetics. legion needs major buffs, they are C tier at best and they are really miserable to play against competent teams who refuse to heal and split up.
unpopular opinion of "i'm just sad i can't play Legion, their fatigue screen-darkening-then-brightening-while-head-POV-is-moving effect makes me have headaches and motion sickness" (it's the same with Nurse too, not even gonna try Blight) edit: would be cool if Legion could have all 4 killer characters in their group spawn, 3 bots & 1 player, and have them work like Knight except all 3 bots start after an m2, and survivors have to figure out which one is the real one, as only the real player-killer can down, hook, and mori survivors, while the 3 bot-killers can only feral frenzy, seek survivors, and injure ...ok idea?
I wish they'd rework frank's mixtape to something actually useful so we could use it with fuming mixtape to have epic chase music and good effects from them
13:41 No, no it didn't. The people who thought that Legion synergizes with Sloppy Butcher are either not Legion players or actual brainlets (sometimes both). As Legion you WANT people to heal. Giving Survivors a red bar when healing does the opposite of that.
@@SireK0zy chases starting randomly when survivors behind obstacle on edge of FOV runs for pixel or no chase cause of no direct eye contact because of corners
Chase nowadays starts when: - survivor is visible to the killer - killer runs toward survivor - survivors runs away from killer all three must happen at once to start a “chase”, to me it is good and consistent, the reason why survs need to be in visibility and starts running to start a chase is to allow survivors hiding in plain sight which can be hard to pull off but very rewarding when successful.
Of course I heard it. I was devasted when I read about it on Twitter. Been wearing his charm since day one. But I don't quite understand what you mean by "chance for his sub and legacy". If you mean i should somehow steal his personality and start copying him.... I think that is just low and disrespectful. Puppers doesn't deserve such an attitude
@@SireK0zy oh no not stealing!! sorry about that I knew I shouldn't type that damn that was stupid I meant like.... I was going to say like charm but yeah sorry about that.
I love how basically every killer history can be defined by “They had a unique ability, then got nerfed cuz it became a normal effect.” What I mean is like how Legion had deep wound, became normal. Myers had Undetectable, now we have perks like Insidious.
Legion is still a failure the killer is literally an actual mistake ain’t nobody want to play as 4 teens like legions power as a whole is awful mend is terrible just everything about legion is terrible aside from their cosmetics if a killer ever got deleted it should be legion and Freddy. Only good thing from legions chapter was Jeff actually underrated survivor in terms of cosmetics
Nobody wants to play? Yeah. Except for everybody. He is the most searched for killer in Google. Nobody wants to play as knight and skull merchant. That's legit. But legion is somehow very popular
@@SireK0zy I have no idea why legion popular maybe theirs some certain reasons that I don’t want to talk about lol I like skull merchant hate the people that play her cause legitimately they don’t know how to play and I’m taking a knight over legion any day honestly I despise knight but at least better designed then the legion.
@@Notwedsquid because people wanna play Legion? He’s the literal embodiment of hit n run, which is really fun, also you don’t really need to think much when playing them, turn your brain off and run n slash, also the cosmetics are another reason they’re popular
Honestly as a Legion main the rework was kinda dissapointing. I wish we got something that makes legion actually a legion. The buffs were nice and all but still.
Legion was the first Character that introduced a 3rd health state for survs and back then I already knew the game would become what it is today... 1+1=2... Uninstall! This Game sucks! Nearly as much as its Community and Devs!
Rewatching this made me realise that bhvr really said "Y'all thought old Legion was our worst? He he heh... allow us to introduce the Skull Merchant..."
You’re literally forgetting the part where the add ons made legion so OP it took almost a full minute to mend
i was gonna say, that was the huge thing i remember people being pissed about wrt legion (outside of the moonwalk exploit). i don't actually remember how long that lasted but it fucking sucked while it did.
Yeah that was a mending bug when you combined two of their addons that increased mending time, it was so bad and widely known that the devs openly stated they’d ban anyone who was caught abusing the exploit
As a legion main myself, I just love legion because I just love zooming around the map injuring survivors, listening to some of the best chase music in dbd, and there’s the hunk skin. We love hunk.
Hunk supremacy 🛐
Ah yes, the most engaging killer that came out perfectly made without any bugs or exploits 😂
i MiSs oLD lEgIoN sO mUcH. WhY dId ThEy ChAnGe HiM?
@SireK0zy XD yeah like why man everyone liked him and he was really healthy for game, just like the twins no bugs and just like the knight and skull merchant very engaging and fun counter play 😀
@@AntiT42Yea he was a very fun and fair killer both to go against and to use.
Wasn't there an exploit that if you had special addons at some point you could increase time to mend to forever with each hit making that timer longer or sth like this ?
Fun fact, the change to make it so that Deep wounds wouldn't go down if you run instead of being tied to terror radius is because when Oni came out, the perk nemesis made it so that legion could make the survivor oblivious while still chasing efectively making a old legion 2.0, was a wild PTB
You forgot the whole infinite mending bug, where the mending timer took longer for each feral hit.
Ahhh, those were the days..
19:27 for the final patch, they did nerfed his vaulting speed AGAIN by removing all the bonuse speed that you gain with perks like fire up, bamboozle or superior anatomy while vaulting during the frenzy. Behaviour doing its behaviourism
Absoloutly great video, you deserve more attention!
In getting some! I mean you're here after all
Wow, BHVR (that's how they normally short their name, right?) actually *reverted* changes they made in the past? That's rare... Real rare.
Love this channel, still love seeing stuff about old dbd
Guess edits gonna be the next killer
Man release legion was an instant DC as people would just run an anti heal build, and it would just be mending simulator. Was so unbelievably unfun i remember being happy to get a nurse after like 4 games of legion in a row.
5:31 dude broke his neck🤣
5:09 yes I can indeed see the non-existent blood XD
God the moonwalking after survivors to let them bleed out thing was kinda funny. Definitely definitely broken and unhealthy, but funny.
5:24 my favourite to run on old legion was Hex third seal. was a good ol time
Very good video and very good editing.
Making a plan and editing was what took an insane amount of time
@@SireK0zy definitely worth, pretty good video like I said, explains everything very clearly and has good jokes and stuff.
This is the only killer where the killer music can be remix
I remember accidentally doing the bleed out exploit so many times because if you got stunned and then kicked it at 110% movement speed you couldn't catch up in time
Nice video man surprised that you're not more popular lol
thanks man, appreciate it. feedback really motivates me to try harder
Great work keep it up
I can understand why survivors dont like playing against a legion. That killer can really drag out a game lol. You really just have to Gen rush legion and stay seperate to counter him imo otherwise hell keep injuring/wounding multiple survivors and distract them. His add ons are quite powerful too but i find him so much fun to play i cant help myself but to main him 😭😄
Yeah pretty much the message of this video
I love going against legion, I am a legion main, he feels super engaging there are so many mind games to do.
@@scarecrow_301same, I play him all the time but I also like playing against him too, especially since I know all the tricks
Remember that a survivor that already has deep wound can take a hit to cancel legion's frenzy
Michael Jackson era was the Spookiest era and its Lowkey hilarious
Ah legion. The mending simulator
im gonna start a petition to rename hin into the Mender
Even if you dont like killer and haven't played him, you will definitely like his music
Agreed. Gives me Doom vibes
Idk if this particular version is available for download but it would be great if u made a video on the dbd version that allowed u to have duplicate perks. And killer powers, perks on survivors and vice versa
Yeah I can do it. Good idea actually
@@SireK0zyHeck yeah. More footage of all these bugs
I wish i had this legion build. og legion was like og freddy really unique.
I love legion’s aesthetic. Joey mains, rise up!
I knew it was all about how legion looks 🤣
Susie mains are superior!
Julie my girl
Ew, imagine playing Legion. You folks made DBD into Mending Simulator.
@@rinsmith334 🎶🏃♂
you deserve a million views
now we just need to find a mad man who's gonna watch this video 1 million times for me lol
Good video. Loved Legion when I picked him up after his first rework (the 115% version before the basoc attacks were changed). His 2nd rework was good, since I came back from the game after a lengthy break. I'd want them to at least change the aspect of missing a basic attack taking down your whole power (pallet stuns are fine), and let you at least be able to see scratch marks in frenzy, but current legion is in a good spot imo
Julie mains, rise up!
As a legion main who started Summer 2023, this is crazy and I’m glad I didn’t play the game when it was older
also thana got nerfed in 6.1.0, thats another direct nerf for legion since almost %99 of the legion players used it. nowadays its not worth it anymore.
Legion also has the most amount of Lore Rewrites out of all killers in dbd
yeah they simply forgot legion exists except they only make cosmetics. legion needs major buffs, they are C tier at best and they are really miserable to play against competent teams who refuse to heal and split up.
unique killer. sucks to play as and against yet people still play him cause its their wifu/husbando
unpopular opinion of "i'm just sad i can't play Legion, their fatigue screen-darkening-then-brightening-while-head-POV-is-moving effect makes me have headaches and motion sickness"
(it's the same with Nurse too, not even gonna try Blight)
edit: would be cool if Legion could have all 4 killer characters in their group spawn,
3 bots & 1 player, and have them work like Knight except all 3 bots start after an m2, and survivors have to figure out which one is the real one, as only the real player-killer can down, hook, and mori survivors, while the 3 bot-killers can only feral frenzy, seek survivors, and injure
...ok idea?
you just get a sub from me by doing this old dbd videos
it bring back so many memories
I wish they'd rework frank's mixtape to something actually useful so we could use it with fuming mixtape to have epic chase music and good effects from them
ahh yes my favorite main :)
Legion mains terrify me
As a legion main, i agree too this message 👍
I would like a feral frenzy speed and recharge buff, running the add-ons really disencourages build variety, Like I have no reason to use the mixtapes
I never understand why legion can't see marks and blood during the frenzy,really weird
Oh well maybe so that youre less inclined to follow came survivor and focus on killer instinct telling you to go on the other side of the map
Tunnel vision
Marks are something foreign to the kiddos so I'd guess when in game mode they can't concentrate on the tiny lines
Most days now when I play legion its for the tunes.
Me, playing dbd for 4 years-music changes when you use mixtapes?!
yeah i know that feeling. a lot of people are actually surprised about it
@@SireK0zy that’s so strange, but I really never payed attention) will try next game)
great video tnx for that
13:41
No, no it didn't. The people who thought that Legion synergizes with Sloppy Butcher are either not Legion players or actual brainlets (sometimes both).
As Legion you WANT people to heal. Giving Survivors a red bar when healing does the opposite of that.
Omg i remember when he came out i alwayd missunderstod him with other survivor
I remember the infinite mending as it was really annoying
Susie Mains represent!!!
0:06 me when 8hooks 0kills💀
I don't think chase mechanic is even fixed now
Why tho? For me it's pretty consistent
@@SireK0zy chases starting randomly when survivors behind obstacle on edge of FOV runs for pixel or no chase cause of no direct eye contact because of corners
Chase nowadays starts when:
- survivor is visible to the killer
- killer runs toward survivor
- survivors runs away from killer
all three must happen at once to start a “chase”, to me it is good and consistent, the reason why survs need to be in visibility and starts running to start a chase is to allow survivors hiding in plain sight which can be hard to pull off but very rewarding when successful.
@@dimasfahmi510 chase starts no matter what direction survivor and killer run
Hey SireK0zy you heard puppers pass away so sorry for him but now it's your chance for him for his sub and his life legacy
Of course I heard it. I was devasted when I read about it on Twitter. Been wearing his charm since day one. But I don't quite understand what you mean by "chance for his sub and legacy". If you mean i should somehow steal his personality and start copying him.... I think that is just low and disrespectful. Puppers doesn't deserve such an attitude
@@SireK0zy oh no not stealing!! sorry about that I knew I shouldn't type that damn that was stupid I meant like.... I was going to say like charm but yeah sorry about that.
18 December? A day before my birthday
every time you say add on you switch personality xd
Lol why?
@SireK0zy you sound a lot like wesker
First...
And every time you say add on your voice changes and it's tone xd
Am i the only one that hears that ringing
All this and no mention of infinite mending?
You mean Ugly Susie is the most popular killer for cosmetics... The devs don't care about Frank or Joey. 😢
oh well susie is the more popular of the bunch. mine is def joey
shame he didnt talk about the double knife addon infinite mending smh
Legion+devour hope+ play with food+ noed+obsession perk
Just played with a clown and he camped the hole game and I'm questioning playing a again.
better than skull merchant or singularity
actully yeah. i find him a lot more entertaining to go against these days. idk why. though i dont mind singulatiry. just the skull merchant
BTW i started to play on late 2017
y the video say he PLAYED legion i dont see no playing
I love how basically every killer history can be defined by “They had a unique ability, then got nerfed cuz it became a normal effect.” What I mean is like how Legion had deep wound, became normal. Myers had Undetectable, now we have perks like Insidious.
it's true for some killers. maybe a little more than "some" but not all.
I love legion!!!
Bro please bro... Why you do
Same here
My main character is popular
Dead hard or RAW OF THE RAT CURD.
And even after the 5.7.0 update.... they still suck and are one of the worst killers in the game
It's so jarring to hear "him" for Legion when I play Julie. It's always "her" for me. I usually refer to them as them.
Legion is still a failure the killer is literally an actual mistake ain’t nobody want to play as 4 teens like legions power as a whole is awful mend is terrible just everything about legion is terrible aside from their cosmetics if a killer ever got deleted it should be legion and Freddy. Only good thing from legions chapter was Jeff actually underrated survivor in terms of cosmetics
Nobody wants to play? Yeah. Except for everybody. He is the most searched for killer in Google. Nobody wants to play as knight and skull merchant. That's legit. But legion is somehow very popular
@@SireK0zy I have no idea why legion popular maybe theirs some certain reasons that I don’t want to talk about lol I like skull merchant hate the people that play her cause legitimately they don’t know how to play and I’m taking a knight over legion any day honestly I despise knight but at least better designed then the legion.
@@Notwedsquid because people wanna play Legion? He’s the literal embodiment of hit n run, which is really fun, also you don’t really need to think much when playing them, turn your brain off and run n slash, also the cosmetics are another reason they’re popular
I personally like the characters of Legion and I like drawing them soo 🥹🥹
@@MillieDuu you got legion drawinngs? can i have a look?
Honestly as a Legion main the rework was kinda dissapointing. I wish we got something that makes legion actually a legion. The buffs were nice and all but still.
Every time I hear "Him" I'm hoping you realize they're a faction of men and women
*they honey, it's not hard....
Still hate him 😂
Legion is just a mistake
Shhhhh. Legion fans are gonna eat is alive
Legion was the first Character that introduced a 3rd health state for survs and back then I already knew the game would become what it is today...
1+1=2...
Uninstall!
This Game sucks!
Nearly as much as its Community and Devs!
As a survivor main I don't like him that much too but I think you're overreacting a little with all these emotional statements