Zürich to Milan with the BEST high-speed train in Europe

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @tommasoscalese
    @tommasoscalese Год назад +160

    I regularly use it. It is very very good and worthy of the Swiss railway network + the Gotthard tunnel. The previous trains were cramped, uncomfortable, this is definitely an improvement vs the past

    • @eurocopter2fred
      @eurocopter2fred Год назад +10

      Good evening, Originally the 29 electric railcars of the Stadler RABe 501 Giruno SMILE (Schneller Mehrsystemfähiger Innovativer Leichter Expresszug) were intended to replace the Astoro in international traffic on the north-south axis, from Basel/Zurich to Milan or even to Genoa and Venice. after the opening of the Gotthard and Cereni base tunnels, but the COVID-19 period called into question their replacement. Unlike the tilting Astoro, the Giruno are high-speed trains which are also intended for cross-border traffic, but Switzerland does not have a high-speed line as such above (260km/hour), but must also develop internationally, which is why the SBB decided that the two Astoro and Giruno trains would be complementary. The 19 Astoro will be refurbished to last another 15 years and offer more flexibility on twistier tracks. In 2022, SBB ordered 7 additional Giruno trains from Stadler, which will be extended in Germany and can be used on DB's NBS lines from 2026

    • @tranconghau-fu9th
      @tranconghau-fu9th Год назад

      Hi, I plan to take this train from Zurich to Milan. I will travel using Schengen visa. I don't know if there's any immigration/custom check point like at the airport if I take this train?. Thank you

    • @itadrummer1
      @itadrummer1 Год назад +1

      @@tranconghau-fu9th Italy , unlike Switzerland, is (still….) an E. U. member which means there WILL BE passport controls at the border station of Chiasso

    • @egonolivier3429
      @egonolivier3429 Год назад +2

      @ franconghau. Both countries are Schengen so normally no passeport control, unless there is a random one

    • @itadrummer1
      @itadrummer1 Год назад

      @@egonolivier3429 I don’t know about this shengen thing : what I know and what I PERSONALLY have experienced EVERY SINGLE TIME in Chiasso is the passport control by the Italian police on board of the train , which stops in the station for almost fifteen minutes just for that reason .

  • @ryanhopkins5337
    @ryanhopkins5337 Год назад +42

    I live just below Lugano and take this train often in both directions, it never disappoints! I always recommend this journey to anyone visiting Central Europe. Thanks for another great video!

  • @sufferingboutlife
    @sufferingboutlife Год назад +96

    What I really love about this train is the really friendly and sunny vibe inside, with all this wooden decorations etc..
    And I think people get that feeling too, as we can see during the dining car review. The atmosphere was really awesome ! People chatting happily etc... I love it ;)

  • @mrs_g7168
    @mrs_g7168 9 месяцев назад +2

    This is part of our planned journey later this year, when we travel from the UK to Rome via Paris, Zurich and Milan. Looks so lovely going through the alps and lakes. Looking forward to it, especially now after seeing the train!

  • @TransitExplained
    @TransitExplained Год назад +26

    The views when passing along the lakes are insane 😍

  • @vpspa7137
    @vpspa7137 Год назад +27

    This is the most beautiful train in Europe! Bright, modern, quiet and leaves an overall feeling of quality! Well done Stadler!

    • @HansGrob
      @HansGrob Год назад

      The Traverso is definitely nicer. It's not high-speed, used for inter-regio, amongst others across the Gotthard, has no restaurant, but a self-service.

    • @eliteiel9747
      @eliteiel9747 Год назад +2

      @@HansGrob Theyre fairly similar tho not? I live near Zurich and it's always a pleasure to take both. Also the SOB staff is EXTREMELY friendly, I saw them accomodating a like 7 year old child once. They have a sort of childrens department where I accidentally sat down, and there are like animals drawn on the walls and the attendant was explaining to the child how to play that game and gave her a toy, I thought it to be really wholesome. That was something I havent seen on SBB yet.

  • @cestmoi1262
    @cestmoi1262 Год назад +8

    Amazed at the many people traveling by train. That is so encouraging for the future of railroads.

    • @Fan652w
      @Fan652w Год назад +4

      The trains are full because the Swiss have superlative public transport. And very few passengers will be paying the full fare. Many will have season tickets. Others will be using a 50% off discount travel card. Tourists should always buy a SWISS TRAVEL PASS. This wonderful ticket allows free travel on all Swiss public transport (trains, buses, trams BOATS etc.) except purely tourist lines in the mountains. On those lines you usually get a 50% discount.

    • @markusstudeli2997
      @markusstudeli2997 Год назад +3

      Particularly for crossing the alps on holidays or prolonged weekend like Easter, the train is much more convenient than the car. There's always massive congestions around the Gotthard road tunnel with waiting times of 2 hours or more.
      The Swiss in 1990 voted for prohibiting the expansion of all transalpine roads and instead focusing on the railroad. This with the aim of re-funneling freight and passenger traffic onto the railroads and thus reducing emissions and the environmental impact in general. Here's some background information: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eidgen%C3%B6ssische_Volksinitiative_%C2%ABzum_Schutze_des_Alpengebietes_vor_dem_Transitverkehr%C2%BB

    • @Fan652w
      @Fan652w Год назад +4

      @@markusstudeli2997 Thanks Markus for information reinforcing what I am saying. As a regular British visitor to Switzerland, I have always been astounded by the traffic congestion which I see on the Gotthard motorway. But I see that congestion from the comfort of the hourly train running on the 'old' 'Panoramastreck'. This 'Gottardo' train is not very quick, but journey times are very reliable. (The IC and EC trains to Lugano and Milano go through the Gotthard base tunnel, and are about an hour quicker than the Gottardos.)

    • @mysterioanonymous3206
      @mysterioanonymous3206 Год назад

      Take it from a Swiss who spent way too much time of his life in train transit... The network is great but it starts getting a little too congested, frankly.
      This particular train is always full to the brim and you can barely find seats often. And forget about bringing the stroller if you have kids (so shortsighted, I bet it's even more miserable for wheelchairs). I HATE HATE HATE taking this train.
      I also commuted by train (around Zürich) for well over 20 years and by now it's so full with rude, loud, smelly, just generally unpleasant people I can't take it anymore. Never again.

    • @florianbuchi7156
      @florianbuchi7156 Год назад

      @@mysterioanonymous3206 The train system is completley fine, yeah it's conested, but that's going to change soon, with the 15 Minutes Takt on every mainline.

  • @itadrummer1
    @itadrummer1 Год назад +15

    Best trains in the whole continent , hands down . The SBB is the best train system in the world , equally as good , clean , efficient, reliable and ALWAYS ON TIME as the Japanese Railways. Both are #1

    • @Braun30
      @Braun30 6 месяцев назад +3

      Problem is that European train companies wish to use swiss lines, most possibly causing havoc in the timeliness of train schedules.
      How does one insert a train in the system which runs to the standard where three minutes is "late" when it comes from a system where a delay under 30 minutes is "on time"?

    • @BackfeetBoi
      @BackfeetBoi 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Braun30You don't 😅 Simply as that. Trains that are late before entering Switzerland have to delay or get cancelled entirely. So unless you can stay on top of your schedule you won't get on the swiss rail lines.

  • @Pisca-kk5cs
    @Pisca-kk5cs Год назад +11

    Fun fact! Giruno means “ Buzzard “ in Romansh! I traveled the Giruno last year from Zurich to Lake Como .. waiting for the 300 kph version that is coming from Stadler!!… I loved the train so much I ordered the HO model from Marklin. Now I have my own Giruno at home.

  • @yobel_i
    @yobel_i Год назад +75

    I went to switzerland for the first time this early july. Even though I was pretty impressed with the german railway system when I first moved there from Indonesia (barely any railways except in the Java island and an HSR is currently being built) earlier this year, swiss trains are just on another level

    • @RustyDust101
      @RustyDust101 Год назад +10

      The Swiss SBB is way, waaaay better than the DB. That's coming from a German. 😂
      They are not even in the same universe in terms of quality, punctuality, etc

    • @limbiateshitposter
      @limbiateshitposter Год назад

      @@RustyDust101 trenitalia is even worse than db, italians consider DB to be a good railway

  • @M_K1972
    @M_K1972 Год назад +11

    Hey there, we live in Switzerland and if we travel to Ticino, we take the Giruno for a fast and save voyage!
    We are proud about the Gotthard base tunnel that was built faster than the new Airport in Berlin!😉

    • @Braun30
      @Braun30 6 месяцев назад

      Problem is that European train companies wish to use swiss lines, most possibly causing havoc in the timeliness of train schedules.
      How does one insert a train in the system which runs to the standard where three minutes is "late" when it comes from a system where a delay under 30 minutes is "on time"?

  • @NormanAllen-ps9ju
    @NormanAllen-ps9ju Месяц назад

    I was impressed with the smoothness of the train by seeing no vibration while watching the window frame !

  • @Fan652w
    @Fan652w Год назад +9

    I share your high opinion of the Giruno trains. I also agree with what you say about Swiss Restaurant cars, and I have often enjoyed Munchermacher breakfasts! The train you were on was well filled IN BOTH CLASSES. On my most resent visit to Switzerland in April 2023, travelling as always on a first class Swiss Travel Pass, I often had to hunt for a seat IN FIRST CLASS!

  • @MarcelSchoen-s2i
    @MarcelSchoen-s2i Год назад +6

    I'm swiss and I use trains in and around Zurich every day, and they are in general very good (compared to a lot of other places); but I gotta say, this highspeed train for the Gotthard route is really something else. It brings me from Zurich to Lugano - a very nice town at a lake in the italian-speaking part of Switzerland - in just 2 hours... and it's just so comfy!

  • @jptv5726
    @jptv5726 Год назад +6

    we did this trip end of april this year, wonderful train, and Milano centrale is realy one of the most beautiful stations in the world.

    • @markusstudeli2997
      @markusstudeli2997 Год назад +1

      It's a very impressive station indeed. It's one of the best examples of a building that makes the human look small and insignificant. It's fascist architecture at its best.

    • @tic-tacdrin-drinn1505
      @tic-tacdrin-drinn1505 Год назад

      It's not "fascist" architecture. It is a monumental architecture with impressive Art Deco details and magnificent lamps in different models. One doesn't have to feel small: it can be inspiring.@@markusstudeli2997

  • @SimoFDO92
    @SimoFDO92 Год назад +8

    I have used it several times on the Milan-Genoa route. I must say that it‘s a very quiet train, and 'soft' on the tracks. The interior is also often clean and the spaces well used. However, I don’t agree with the comfort of the seats: it‘s true that they‘re more comfortable than other seats on other trains, but I don’t think that anyone can ever beat the comfort of those on the ETR500.

  • @valeriebassett3107
    @valeriebassett3107 Год назад +4

    What a beautiful train. Beautiful views and scenery too. Magnificent! Thanks for sharing. ❤️

  • @switzerails3668
    @switzerails3668 Год назад +4

    I like the innovations of this train regarding accessibility. One huge downside is that a good number of the seats lack a proper table for working with a laptop. Better pick the seat yourself if the reservation system allows it, which is not always the case.
    In the Astoro / ETR610, IIRC, every seat has a decent fold-out table.

  • @markusstudeli2997
    @markusstudeli2997 Год назад +40

    I took the Giruno and then the Frecciarossa on a trip to Torino one after another. The Frecciarossa is faster, has leather seats in first class and it has a bit of a roomier feel to it. The Giruno's interior on the other hand feels more contemporary, more stylish, and it offers level access, which the Frecciarossa lacks. Over all I'd say they are at par at about the same level of excellence, with different strengths. I'm glad I could experience both on one trip.
    I'm a bit surprised the Stadler Smile did not get more attention by other operators so far. Maybe they're waiting for the teething problems to be removed before they order. Or maybe it's just a bit too expensive.

    • @arnoldhau1
      @arnoldhau1 Год назад +3

      The level acess is propably only that important in Switzerland due to its laws, not sure other countries are that strict on it.

    • @markusstudeli2997
      @markusstudeli2997 Год назад +10

      @@arnoldhau1 The law is one thing, convenience and service cost reduction the other: If for wheel chair users the railway companies always have to provide a ramp (and an operator), this is costly and time consuming. Also parents with baby carriages and bike riders (particularly those with heavy e-bikes) profit from a level access. Level access also reduces the time needed for regular passenger entry and exit at stations, so time can be saved with shorter stops at stations.

    • @arnoldhau1
      @arnoldhau1 Год назад +1

      ​@@markusstudeli2997 Oh I think it is a good thing too. I cycle a lot, so I like level entrances. Many swiss trains are double decker or have level entrance allready.
      I just think this may be a reason why other operators are not that keen on the SMILE yet.

    • @markusstudeli2997
      @markusstudeli2997 Год назад +1

      @@arnoldhau1 The benefit for the operator might not be that apparent at first, but if he realizes he can save operating costs (by not needing to provide ramps) and time at stops, he might reconsider also, not even counting higher passenger satisfaction.

    • @Pisca-kk5cs
      @Pisca-kk5cs Год назад +2

      The Philippine Railways ordered it… FYI

  • @marklee1194
    @marklee1194 Год назад +1

    Best scenery ever, hands down.

  • @enricomonti156
    @enricomonti156 Год назад +20

    I travelled in June on a Giruno on a Eurocity Service from Zurich to Bologna. All amazing in terms of comfort and views. We also had the Swiss customs checking throughout the train between Lugano and Chiasso.
    Definitely much bettee than the tilting trainsets of SBB

  • @hughmnyks
    @hughmnyks Год назад +1

    I love the sound in your video. Real railway!

  • @EinBahnfan
    @EinBahnfan Год назад +1

    My favourite RUclipsr in my favourite trainset in my favourite train travel country - what a great day!!! 😊

  • @theaw.4798
    @theaw.4798 7 месяцев назад

    Every train in Switzerland is a splendid one.
    All companies are top! Trains are top!
    And ALL so clean!!!
    And together with the great landscapes is travelling in Switzerland with public transport top!

  • @joemeyers3127
    @joemeyers3127 Год назад +2

    Great train, excellent food, beautiful scenery - life is good. 👍👍👍

  • @WeTakeOverIreland
    @WeTakeOverIreland Год назад +1

    Man i love your channel, i can watch and chill and read in my head the subtitles without someone randomly saying " HELLO GuYS ^TODAY WE ARe GOiNG ON A BIG TRAIN YAY dasd " i can just chill drink my coffee and watch the video and scratch my balls in peace

  • @haufe012
    @haufe012 Год назад +6

    I did this trip in 2006 after i received my first paycheck. i had a meal during the climb to göschenen on the old gotthard-route at autumn at the train was lead by a locomotive. but i dont remember if it was a Re645 or a Re6/6 (620). it was nearly 20 CHF, but it was worth it with that view. I can feel you at this point^^.

  • @roundandroundmyworld
    @roundandroundmyworld Год назад

    Amazing looking train and I picked up on the quietness of the ride almost as soon as the train began rolling -- that's almost unbelievable! SBB is my favourite, hands down, of all main line rail companies I've ever ridden with!

    • @mysterioanonymous3206
      @mysterioanonymous3206 Год назад

      But what you don't realise is that this particular train is always full to the brim. You'll often find yourself near a group of noisy teenagers blasting music from their low quality sound system, or bikers, hikers, climbers, campers, backpackers all of which block the entire passage and the seats with their luggage and are oh so smelly. Then you have cyclists and their bikes, people with skis, whole groups of Asians with their massive rolling suitcases... Seriously. Ive been on this train many times and quite often you can't even find a seat because it's so full. Try standing all the way, 2h30mins, between the stench and the sports gear and then tell me how you like it!
      MISERABLE. Nearly every damn time.

  • @bluelucky2865
    @bluelucky2865 Год назад +21

    Considering that Flirt and Kiss trains are selling like hot cakes around the world, I'm surprised that Stadler hasn't secured an order outside of Switzerland for this train yet.

    • @MatthiasWiesmann
      @MatthiasWiesmann Год назад +1

      The Smile is kind of an oddball train. With a top speed of 250 km/h, it's not really a high-speed train (which typically go to 300 km/h), and there are 200 km/h version of both Flirt and Kiss. There are not that many networks where such a train actually makes sense. They would be perfect for the Acela line in the US though…

    • @Edelweiss1102
      @Edelweiss1102 Год назад +4

      While it may seem odd that there aren't more Girunos, or SMILEs, as Stadler calls the Plattform, yet, I think there are a couple of reasons why that's the case.
      - The Girunos are still fairly new and have only been in commercial use for about 2-3 years. And while they function very good for the most part, there have been and still are some children illnesses as we call them in German, which is normal for any new train set. But given the short time and that it still has to reach its full potential yet is one aspect that there aren't more orders yet.
      - Connected with the point above, the Giruno is Stadlers first true entrance into the really high-end flagship long distance train sector, and like any new competitor, their product will have to prove itself first in the long run. Flirt and Kiss are well established names and products at this point, but they started out small as well and had to prove their ways to what they are now.
      - Again, connected to the points mentioned above, the high speed sector is much smaller and more contested as the regional train units one. Only a few national operators operate high speed trains and even less private ones. And there is also a sense of nationality in it, it's not surprising that DB mainly uses Siemens build ICEs while France has Alstom build TGVs and Italy has Frecciarossa. China bought established products at first and no produces their own. There isn't much room for foreign newcomers.
      - Finally, the Giruno is a bit of an Oddball in the grand scheme of things. It's faster than most trains with 250 kmh, but doesn't quite reach the true high speed land of 300+ kmh most operators use on their nets. It's perfect for Switzerland and the international routs it runs on, but it was purposefully developed for these and it will be rough to establish it in a different environment.

    • @lzh4950
      @lzh4950 Год назад +1

      @@Edelweiss1102 What I can observe for my country (Singapore) so far is that we now mainly buy rolling stock from companies that make them in China, maybe because its nearer & cheaper. For high-speed rolling stock, meanwhile for Japanese manufacturers, the work tends to be split across multiple manufacturers e.g. within the same trainset, some cars may be made by Hitachi, others are made by Kawasaki etc.

    • @nashorn9745
      @nashorn9745 9 месяцев назад

      The smile is to unreliable to be considered by other companies. It hasn’t actually reached the point at which SBB has set its minimum of 8000 Kilometers between major problems. Something the FV Dosto actually reached 3 Years ago.

    • @vermart9607
      @vermart9607 4 месяца назад

      @@Edelweiss1102 the giruno could also fit well in spain, there are many high speed lines that have many near by stops like murcia-elche-orihuela-alicante, a route that's done in 45 minutes with 4 stops and there are many others examples, In spain we use for those shorts routes CAF made trains that reach 250 km/h max, and are used as avant (high speed for shorts distances), but i don't think they are as good as the giruno, also if the giruno had gauge changing mecanism it would fit perfectly spain as a way to use the hsl and the regional lines (using the tilting system to go faster) to reach cities that are not well connected to the high speed network. (Those are called here alvia or Euromed)

  • @kenwbrenner
    @kenwbrenner Год назад

    Good job on filming this ride.
    I can see why you liked it so much!

  • @chrismv102
    @chrismv102 Год назад

    Thank you for taking along on the trip

  • @andreaspraschfotografie4921
    @andreaspraschfotografie4921 Год назад

    I took this train from Lindau to Munich. I really enjoyed the ride! It's comfy, it's fast and it tilts in the curvy landscape of the Allgaeu!

  • @bellissimo4520
    @bellissimo4520 Год назад

    This train is a frikkin masterpiece!

  • @rasferrastfarian739
    @rasferrastfarian739 Год назад

    What a lovely train! Thank you for the journey!

  • @williammerry4746
    @williammerry4746 Год назад +1

    All your videos are excellent, Thibault but this is outstanding. Great train. Don't be afraid to include a few pictures of yourself, a fine looking young man.

  • @ILGlocker
    @ILGlocker 8 месяцев назад

    Enjoy your videos very much. Hoping to finally visit Europe this year and the videos are helping me make plans. Looks like a great train. Wonderful views including that stunning woman at 11:30.

  • @Rocko76
    @Rocko76 Год назад

    Living in Lugano and working for a company in Zürich, I often use this train and it’s always a pleasure. Just 1.54 hour trip from LU to ZH and it’s nice, as you’ve shown here, making breakfast and enjoying the view. 👍

  • @timnewman1172
    @timnewman1172 Год назад

    Awesome trainset! My bucket list is to one day go to Europe to ride some of these trains. I guess I have to live vicariously thru Simply Railways for the time being... Thanks Thibault!!!

  • @nvire5202
    @nvire5202 Год назад

    Have taken the Giruno from Luzern to Lugano, then Zurich and then Basel in one day, love it

  • @ScorpiaBoost
    @ScorpiaBoost Год назад

    It's my favorite train in Switzerland :) Love it!

  • @MrJimmy440
    @MrJimmy440 Год назад

    Another great video. Thank you !

  • @strafrag1
    @strafrag1 Год назад

    Wonderful video. Thanks for the super ride along. Cheers.

  • @Nicolas-zw2hv
    @Nicolas-zw2hv Год назад +1

    so many more railways should order it it's such a good train!

  • @Phaios95
    @Phaios95 Год назад +1

    I love the Giruno. It is a beautiful, stylish, quiet and comfortable train.
    I went to Ticino last year and I was amazed that I had full 5G in the Gotthard tunnel. I watched RUclips videos 🤣

  • @jf6395
    @jf6395 Год назад

    Great Channel long-time viewer from the state of Montana in the US

  • @cheeseblog
    @cheeseblog Год назад +4

    Love it! Only problem the ride wasn’t long enough.

    • @timnewman1172
      @timnewman1172 Год назад

      This would be a relatively short trip in North America...

  • @sevs17
    @sevs17 Год назад +6

    I personally really like this train, took it on a national route in Italy and good travel experience. The only criticism that I have is that the first class does not include table service unlike the Frecciarossa.
    Two small notes:
    1) In Chiasso there is a long stop mainly because the SBB CFF FFS staff leaves the train and full operations are taken over by FSI Trenitalia staff.
    2) Switzerland is part of Schengen but not of the EU therefore there is mainly a customs control and limited passport checks. The ID/passports are mainly checked by the Guardia di Finanza military police force, the civilian Polizia di Stato since when Switzerland joined Schengen has got a much smaller detachment in Chiasso.

  • @tomzitiger
    @tomzitiger Год назад

    I loved those trainsets. I took from lugano to zurich and they were really comfy

  • @der_eisenbahnfotograf2089
    @der_eisenbahnfotograf2089 Год назад +1

    The Giruno or RABe 501 is my second favorite Trainset for traveling to the southern part of Switzerland. What I like about the Trainset is in a Total of 202 Meters long (11-Carriages) and is the Frist Class with the wooden Interior.

  • @JulianRyf
    @JulianRyf Год назад +19

    The Giruno certainly is a very nice train. Unfortunately this comes with the cost of very little capacity, even compared to the older ETR 610 it replaced.

    • @luciliocogato9746
      @luciliocogato9746 Год назад +2

      ETR 610 is a tilting train which could reach 20% higher speed on conventional lines. But SBB has never fully exploited this possibility. Due to tilting, veichle body an therefore interiors are necessarily narrower than in the non-tilting Giruno. On the other side ETR 610's has seats softer than Giruno"s has overall a more refined design concept.

    • @markusstudeli2997
      @markusstudeli2997 Год назад +2

      @@luciliocogato9746 The SBB exploited the tilting with the Pendolino, the ICN and the Astoro. The experience has been a mixed bag: The Pendolino was definitely not reliable enough and affected availability and punctuality negatively. The Astoro is a "second generation Pendolino"; it still has some reliability issues, but over all, it's doing a lot better.
      The best experience has been made with the ICNs that have become one of the intercity workhorses, used mostly on the Jurasüdfuss iine from Geneva to St. Gallen and on the Gotthard line between Basel and Lugano. It' s reliable, comfy and generally well liked by passengers, reason why the SBB decided to give it an overhaul that will add another 25 years to its life span. It's tilting mechanism also generally works well and is a pleasure to experience for most passengers.
      One major problem that none of the tilting trains could resolve yet is the accessibility requirement: Train operators by law will soon be required to offer at least one connection every hour to offer level access for handicapped passengers. None of the tilting models can offer level access. The attempt to do this with the new Twindexx failed: It offers level access, but the (passive) tilting mechanism did not work to the passengers' satisfaction, it only made the train shaky and uncomfortable to ride with, reason why it was switched off. So there will be either a new functioning tilting train with level access, or the tilting trains will eventually be all replaced by conventional models again.

    • @AlexanderOnFire
      @AlexanderOnFire Год назад

      @@markusstudeli2997 It's more likely that they will be replaced by more conventional trains. Because of the bad experiences of the reliability and the massive delays of the FV-Dosto (the Twindexx Swiss Express trains mentioned in the video) and also to some degree with the Giruno (which also had some issues and the beginning) they rather want to focus on already existing train sets. It's a bit disappointing on one hand, but also understandable, SBB run in quite some issues to provide enough capacity when their new trains seemingly took forever to be ready to use.

    • @aurelspecker6740
      @aurelspecker6740 Год назад

      The lower capacity could also be caused by the 2 level entries that were required to be lowfloor in both, Switzerland and Italy.
      Both countries have different platform height, which meant they had to juggle around the interior to make both levels possible.
      I can imagine that this juggling also messed up some more efficient seat layouts.

    • @AlexanderOnFire
      @AlexanderOnFire Год назад +1

      @@aurelspecker6740 It‘s not like the train has much less capacity than a ICE 3 neo. With 11 cars the Giruno has around 400 seats and with 8 cars the Neo 440. Though the Giruno has way shorter cars and both trains have about the same length.

  • @mac760
    @mac760 Год назад

    Made exactly the same trip last year , the service on this train is incroyable!

  • @stephenwinter8892
    @stephenwinter8892 10 месяцев назад

    Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦 thanks for the presentation

  • @samtrak1204
    @samtrak1204 Год назад

    I'm glad the ride is smooth and quiet. The dining car looks delicia!

  • @RailChannel
    @RailChannel Год назад +1

    The design of the front part of this train is similar to that of the Korean prototype HSR350X.
    KTX Sancheon is based on the HSR350X.

  • @Someone-wh8hi
    @Someone-wh8hi Год назад

    I don't know if you knew, but you can use the onboard wifi to see an overview of the train journey (location, speed, etc). I always found it annoying that the overview at 5:25 is skipped for commercials or whatnot ...

  • @nichtwichtig9
    @nichtwichtig9 Год назад +1

    I have traveled the to line where the Giruno is, from Zürich to Milan/ Venice/ Bologna/ Genua/ Lugano and the other one from Basel to Lugano and Milan! My favourite train! (and the IR 36 from Zürich to Basel…)

    • @nichtwichtig9
      @nichtwichtig9 Год назад

      This is also the first highspeed train from Stadler so good job guys👍

  • @e-mobility-factory9927
    @e-mobility-factory9927 Год назад

    A fantastic Video 😍😍thanks 😍✌️✌️

  • @bigpirate7513
    @bigpirate7513 Год назад

    As Thai you did the great job your filming was the great views keep go on

  • @senthilrajakumar1010
    @senthilrajakumar1010 Год назад

    Awesome video!!!

  • @Luigi-uj5ml
    @Luigi-uj5ml Год назад +4

    In the past, the only train that didn't stop in Genoa Brignole was the mythical Palatine from Rome to Paris (it was also the only train with a global price). Now, on weekends, even the Girono from Zurich to Sestri Levante doesn't stop in Brignole!

  • @buzzukfiftythree
    @buzzukfiftythree Год назад

    We travelled on the Giruno several times during a week’s stay in Bellinzona last year. Totally agree with you that it’s far more spacious than the pendolinos that SBB used on that route - they’re cramped and uncomfortable. We used the dining car a couple of times and the food is good, if a little expensive (but then pretty much everything is expensive in Switzerland compared with its neighbours). One of the Girunos we travelled on made a strange noise - sounded like it was groaning loudly. I think it was the articulated running gear. We actually thought that the man sitting opposite had a severe throat problem until we realised what the noise was! Great video, many thanks.

  • @philippenaluna2312
    @philippenaluna2312 Год назад +9

    Looked good, Thibault. I'd like to be able to travel, but for the time being it's not an option. Incedentally, the Tyne and Wear Metro in north east England is due to put new Stadler units in service later this year. Despite not being 'heavy rail', you might like to give 'em a try.

  • @jurgantenen4907
    @jurgantenen4907 Год назад +1

    Giruno trains are also used in swiss domestic IR Inter regio services e.g. on IR 36 from Basel to Zurich airport. My last ride on this train was 23.6.2023 from Baden to Zurich airport. I love the ride on this train.😊👍

  • @anthonywarrener1881
    @anthonywarrener1881 Год назад

    Thank you for this excellent video. I completely agree with you, for I too find the Giruno is a superb train. It oozes quality, like all Stadler products, and can certainly accelerate very quickly !

  • @elegant_travelling
    @elegant_travelling Год назад

    Probably the best restaurant car in terms of service, seats and menu options on any non-luxury train currently in service. I wish more companies reintroduced real restaurant cars even if offering a relatively limited selection. No matter how fancy the meal, eating it at your seat on a fold-down table will never beat the feeling of doing so the more social environment of a restaurant car.

  • @rezaalan3991
    @rezaalan3991 Год назад

    Great trip. Overall great train and great experience onboard.

  • @Zurich_for_Beginners
    @Zurich_for_Beginners Год назад

    Zürich HB is under construction since the 80's.
    I work as test engineer for trains. On some days I run through the Gotthard base tunnel 6 times a day.
    So for me its starts getting old. So when ever have the time to do it use the old tracks with the tunnel from 1882

  • @nickmorgan1690
    @nickmorgan1690 Год назад +4

    I would love if Amtrak would buy this set. I'd ride it more than I already do

    • @timnewman1172
      @timnewman1172 Год назад +1

      It will be interesting to see how Amtrak service improves once all the new trainsets are in operation. If we could just get more and better rail lines to operate them on!!!

    • @nickmorgan1690
      @nickmorgan1690 Год назад +1

      @timnewman1172 the better rail lines is key. Fingers crossed! Even imagine if they ordered double-decker stock from Alstom!

  • @alfredocoelho8088
    @alfredocoelho8088 Год назад

    Hola Thibault! I did that same trip back in february 2020 aboard Trenitalia. It was very good!

  • @europeroads
    @europeroads Год назад

    What a beautiful train and Beautiful views 😃

  • @TrainSpotterTVIndia
    @TrainSpotterTVIndia Год назад +1

    Incredible

  • @pinderclips5642
    @pinderclips5642 Год назад +1

    I recently did this trip in the other direction, it's a very enjoyable journey with amazing views. The standard class seats are a bit on the firm side but it's overall a quality train. Great review 👍

  • @imdadshah7481
    @imdadshah7481 Год назад

    Beautiful journey Nice video ❤

  • @kobichief
    @kobichief Год назад

    lovely, did that trip in reverse 1 months ago, also love the Giruno.

  • @aviano72
    @aviano72 Год назад +2

    Giruno are really nice and modern but i do have a soft spot for the tilting Astoro and ICN
    When will Zürich HB refurbishment be finished ?

  • @JimBarry-nr2pj
    @JimBarry-nr2pj Год назад

    Every place you go seems so much better from the windows of a train.

  • @Andrewjg_89
    @Andrewjg_89 Год назад

    Europe does love high speed trains no matter where you go to. High speed railway is the way forward to go from A to B.

  • @florianhug9801
    @florianhug9801 Год назад

    Anouncements are depending in which region of Switzerland you go.
    So when you travel from Basel to Geneva, you get German, French and English.
    To, for example, Lugano you get Italian instead of French. and so on

  • @mfxx888
    @mfxx888 Год назад

    These Stadler low floor high speed train is amazing, I also enjoyed this route a lot. what a contrast when you compare the easy access of Zurich HB vs Milano Centrale. arriving in MIlano is like landing on a different planet comparing to when you boarded the 1st class Girono at Zurich HB.

    • @mfxx888
      @mfxx888 Год назад

      it has to do with the amount of visitors, and station planning. Milano Centrale requires a ticket to access the platform, making it even more chaotic, also in many cases Italian railway stations announce platform information 10~15 minutes before departure, everyone is looking at the board before they run to the departure platform, compare to Switzerland, platform assignment is done 6 month before departure@@Wisteria__Lane

  • @TreasureBlubbi
    @TreasureBlubbi Год назад

    i love your sign language ;D great video

  • @Fan652w
    @Fan652w Год назад +3

    As we saw from the train display screen, The Gotthard Base tunnel is the longest railway tunnel in the world. But there are no special security measures imposed on passengers. Contrast the Channel Tunnel.

    • @petitkruger2175
      @petitkruger2175 Год назад

      the channel tunnel is a approaching 30 years old, saftey has improved a lot since then

    • @Fan652w
      @Fan652w Год назад +1

      @@petitkruger2175 I agree that tunnel SAFETY (against accidents) has improved in the last thirty years. But when I write 'special security measures' I am thinking of security measures like those imposed at airports, eg baggage X-Rays. If I want to travel through the channel tunnel from London to Paris I have to check-in and have my luggage X-rayed. Check in queues at London St Pancras sometimes stretch to over an hour, and have been known to stretch to outside the station. If I travel on the 07 33 from Zurich to Milan (featured in the video) I just get on the train like any other Swiss train. I do not even need a reservation!

    • @maxwyss7447
      @maxwyss7447 Год назад

      @@Fan652w You have to be aware that the security kindergarden for the channel tunnel train was established before the Good Friday Agreement. So, some people did fear some attacks on such a lighthouse project, like the channel tunnel. Nowadays, it is not needed anymore, but it would be up to the british so-called "government" to terminate it… and considering their aversion against anything on rails, it won't happen…

    • @Fan652w
      @Fan652w Год назад

      @@maxwyss7447 Max, i am not sure about about your last eleven words, but otherwise I would agree with you.

    • @maxwyss7447
      @maxwyss7447 Год назад

      @@Fan652w I agree that the last 11 words are a bit wishi-washi… however, if I would state the reality, the Netiquette Filter would redact it. And if you look at the recent developments caused by that so-called "government", the only conclusion is that they want to kill off rail.

  • @HyperionCH
    @HyperionCH Год назад

    One beautiful lake is missing ("Vierwaltstättersee") right before the Gotthard tunnel. A very beautiful view for the passengers.
    I was several times in the Giruno. It really a good experience. But I think the seats (1st class) is a litte bit too hard for a ride over 3 hours (it OK, for 1-2 hours). But in the 1st class there is a lot of room for passangers so if you get hurt a little bit caused by the hard seat, you could stand up and walk a little bit. And very important in the 1st class: there is a lot of room for the luggage. I think this is very important for a long-distance ride and here the Giruno is really better than most other trains.

  • @scottyerkes1867
    @scottyerkes1867 Год назад +1

    I would definitely book first class on this train. Comfy seat, pleasant atmosphere and breakfast with a fantastic view!! Worth the price. Thanks Thibault.💚👌

    • @markusstudeli2997
      @markusstudeli2997 Год назад

      Small hint: you can also access the dining car with a 2nd class ticket. It sort of turns your 2nd class ticket into a first class experience.

  • @colinseeney471
    @colinseeney471 Год назад

    Did I like this video, oh yes it was really good and made me want to do that trip 😘

  • @sunny_muffins
    @sunny_muffins Год назад

    Oh damn! ma boy travels first class! 😎

  • @pakrailofficial1062
    @pakrailofficial1062 Год назад +1

    Amazing

  • @puffypegion7815
    @puffypegion7815 Год назад +4

    You gotta review the Japanese Shinkansen one day! The OG HSR!

  • @WIZARDA-yl7fx
    @WIZARDA-yl7fx 9 месяцев назад

    Someone who used to live in zurich a few years ago I have never seen the pendolino trains in my life.

  • @mangiareuewki
    @mangiareuewki Год назад

    Meraviglioso

  • @maxwyss7447
    @maxwyss7447 Год назад +1

    Running quality is indeed excellent; definitely suitable for a Premium product (I am looking at you, Bombardier…).

  • @vladimirskokan
    @vladimirskokan Год назад +1

    Every year the core of Europe moves north. Even within SUI the least developed part is Tessin! North to the future!!!😊

  • @BoredSquirell
    @BoredSquirell Год назад

    I always chuckle when I see a train to Zug (3:23)

  • @matthewgleeson2121
    @matthewgleeson2121 Год назад

    I'm actually booked on this very service in a couple weeks time.

  • @naturallyherb
    @naturallyherb Год назад

    Those meals from the dining car looks so nice. Considering that I'm from Canada and being more or less used to the eye-watering Canadian prices (taxes are NOT included and you have to pay them on top of the total!), Swiss prices, judging from the menu you've shown, actually are quite reasonably priced in comparison, even with the exchange rate in mind.

  • @holnrew
    @holnrew Год назад +1

    I'd prefer the floor be level throughout personally, I don't like the seats up high to accommodate the bogies and wouldn't mind a bit of carpet.

  • @crafter89
    @crafter89 Год назад +2

    I miss the tilting technology on the giruno. I'm a big fan of tilting trains.

  • @jonathangat4765
    @jonathangat4765 Год назад +3

    I traveled on that route in early 2020, just before everything else happened. I'm pretty sure it was on one of the older trains, but it was still a very good trip and it got me to Zurich in time for me to make my transfer to the airport. I boarded in Lugano. It's a really great service and the run trough the base tunnel is impressive.

  • @HumbertoMesa
    @HumbertoMesa Год назад

    I was left wondering if you made it in time for the connection. I think you did. A good service, considering price, time and the panoramic view. In addition to leaving the city centre and arriving in the centre of the other city. Thanks for the ride. 🇺🇾

  • @schaeme
    @schaeme Год назад +1

    Hey, I'm missing the different kind of toilets on that train. The speciality on thet train, you have toilets for M an F. You hav also e special Pissoir for the men.
    But the train is great, smooth and it's a nice way to travel through the longest railway tunnel on earth. ;-)

  • @jerea8607
    @jerea8607 Год назад +2

    I usually go to the coop at the Zurich station before departure train food is too expensive.